Beppe Sannino's coaching style clear to see during Watford's trip to Manchester City, says Lloyd Doyley

Watford Observer: Lloyd Doyley praised the impact of Watford's supporters on Saturday and threw his shirt into the crowd after the game. Picture: Action Images Lloyd Doyley praised the impact of Watford's supporters on Saturday and threw his shirt into the crowd after the game. Picture: Action Images

Lloyd Doyley believes Beppe Sannino's coaching style was stamped on Watford during their FA Cup tie with Manchester City.

Sannino is a tactician who insists on his team being well organised and prepared heading into matches.

The experienced coach doesn't like to change formation unless his players have time to work on it. The squad had not tried the 3-4-2-1 system used at the Etihad prior to last Monday but the Italian and his squad seemingly used the five days wisely as they deservedly led 2-0 at half-time.

City went on to equalise with 12 minutes remaining and then grabbed two late goals following mistakes from young goalkeeper Jonathan Bond.

Doyley said: "Yes [you could see Sannino's coaching style against City]. In the first half we were very compact, very structured, we all knew what we were doing and then he gave us the freedom to do what we wanted in the attacking third. That showed with Fernando Forestieri and Troy Deeney flicking balls around the corner and the players were allowed to do what they wanted in attack. But he does want us to be more solid."

"The formation worked really well," Doyley continued. "We knew we were coming up against a good team and we knew we had to stop them from playing.

"We work on formations every day of the week and our manager likes to be organised, he likes a structured team, with everyone knowing what they are doing, and in the first half I think that showed.

"In the second half we got a little bit tired and they put us under pressure, going up a couple of notches, which made it difficult for us."

Sannino has already started winning over the Hornets supporters due to his passion, which is clearly evident on a match day.

The experienced coach is keen for his team to continually show more fight - "to play for the town, the supporters and the club".

Doyley said: "As you can see from him on the touchline, he is vocal and passionate – he loves to run up the touchline to get his message across and that is what he is like in training.

"He wants us to be passionate, he wants us to be hungry and show a bit of anger on the field. That is how he is as a man as well."

City have only lost once at home this season and that was against European champions Bayern Munich.

So Watford leading 2-0 until the final half an hour was an excellent achievement and there were lots of positives to take from the performance.

But Doyley admits: "Obviously coming up against Manchester City and how they have been playing – beating everyone 4-0, 5-0 – means it is not a bad result but I am a little bit disappointed.

"In the first half we came out and put them under a lot of pressure and they couldn’t cope with our counter-attacks. We went 2-0 up but it could have been more."

It was an afternoon when everyone associated with Watford impressed; the head coach, players and also the supporters.

There were 3,352 away fans at the Etihad and they were continuously heard over the 43,000 City followers.

And Doyley acknowledged their support, saying: "I am sure the fans had a great day as well. It is not every week that we get to play at a nice stadium like this.

"Going 2-0 up helped lift them and that got us up for the game that bit more. Even at 4-2, they were still singing our names.

"I think we had 3,300 fans here today and they helped us massively. You could hear our section more than the other 40,000-plus Manchester City fans.

"We need that every game so let’s have a lot more of that."

Click here to read deputy sports editor Frank Smith's comment on how Watford's new formation showed what Sannino could do in a short space of time.

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11:46am Tue 28 Jan 14

endean2 says...

what a true legend that man is
what a true legend that man is endean2
  • Score: 28

12:21pm Tue 28 Jan 14

BigBadVirgil says...

amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender.
amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender. BigBadVirgil
  • Score: 28

12:29pm Tue 28 Jan 14

soulfulhornet says...

It seems despite the alleged language difficulties (more in the sporting press than in reality), that Sannino is getting his ideas across. And it seems that the players are buying into them. Sannino appears to be a pragmatic coach who is not wedded to one formation or other, but prefers to adapt the formation to the players he has or the challenge that the opposition pose.

With the tough games coming up - thick and fast - it will be fascinating to see whether Giuseppe can get the best out of our players. I think this squad - even without the pacy striker most of us think we need - is better than our current league position suggests. For whatever reason they have under-performed this term - and they know that.

The City game will have enhanced the coach's reputation with the players and increased confidence, let's hope Forest on Thursday enhances it further. We need to start winning games asap.
It seems despite the alleged language difficulties (more in the sporting press than in reality), that Sannino is getting his ideas across. And it seems that the players are buying into them. Sannino appears to be a pragmatic coach who is not wedded to one formation or other, but prefers to adapt the formation to the players he has or the challenge that the opposition pose. With the tough games coming up - thick and fast - it will be fascinating to see whether Giuseppe can get the best out of our players. I think this squad - even without the pacy striker most of us think we need - is better than our current league position suggests. For whatever reason they have under-performed this term - and they know that. The City game will have enhanced the coach's reputation with the players and increased confidence, let's hope Forest on Thursday enhances it further. We need to start winning games asap. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 25

12:45pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Hornet Cornet says...

This season has turned into one of transition which is not what we expected with all of the pre-season signings, etc.

Beppe needs to keep doing what he's doing, hopefully turn some draws into wins and who knows what will happen. If we stay mid-table this season then that's fine with me. Next season, with a clear steer from Beppe and a settled squad, we should be in a stronger position.

Happy Tuesday

HC
This season has turned into one of transition which is not what we expected with all of the pre-season signings, etc. Beppe needs to keep doing what he's doing, hopefully turn some draws into wins and who knows what will happen. If we stay mid-table this season then that's fine with me. Next season, with a clear steer from Beppe and a settled squad, we should be in a stronger position. Happy Tuesday HC Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 5

1:02pm Tue 28 Jan 14

soulfulhornet says...

Whether we can reach the play-offs or not, it is not in our hands. We can only win the games we have, but others will have to slip up too. Remember last season, only Cardiff managed to maintain form in the run-in. Hull, ourselves, Palace and Leicester had sketchy form in the final third/ quarter of the season. Brighton had a decent run and Forest and Bolton fell away at the death. The pressure on teams and managers (for their jobs) produces strange results (Peterborough/ Millwall/Bristol City in our case!!!!).

Agree play-offs looks unlikely, but we should give it a go and who knows. May be with what has happened at the Vic since September, the pressure is off. No one expects us to do it - bit like 1998/99 when we started well, fell away and went on the Mooney inspired run.
Whether we can reach the play-offs or not, it is not in our hands. We can only win the games we have, but others will have to slip up too. Remember last season, only Cardiff managed to maintain form in the run-in. Hull, ourselves, Palace and Leicester had sketchy form in the final third/ quarter of the season. Brighton had a decent run and Forest and Bolton fell away at the death. The pressure on teams and managers (for their jobs) produces strange results (Peterborough/ Millwall/Bristol City in our case!!!!). Agree play-offs looks unlikely, but we should give it a go and who knows. May be with what has happened at the Vic since September, the pressure is off. No one expects us to do it - bit like 1998/99 when we started well, fell away and went on the Mooney inspired run. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 7

1:23pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Harry's Bar says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
It seems despite the alleged language difficulties (more in the sporting press than in reality), that Sannino is getting his ideas across. And it seems that the players are buying into them. Sannino appears to be a pragmatic coach who is not wedded to one formation or other, but prefers to adapt the formation to the players he has or the challenge that the opposition pose.

With the tough games coming up - thick and fast - it will be fascinating to see whether Giuseppe can get the best out of our players. I think this squad - even without the pacy striker most of us think we need - is better than our current league position suggests. For whatever reason they have under-performed this term - and they know that.

The City game will have enhanced the coach's reputation with the players and increased confidence, let's hope Forest on Thursday enhances it further. We need to start winning games asap.
Yes, our season needs to start now. Will we get anyone in by Friday?.... personally I think it will be the loan window now, and only a defensive midfielder.
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: It seems despite the alleged language difficulties (more in the sporting press than in reality), that Sannino is getting his ideas across. And it seems that the players are buying into them. Sannino appears to be a pragmatic coach who is not wedded to one formation or other, but prefers to adapt the formation to the players he has or the challenge that the opposition pose. With the tough games coming up - thick and fast - it will be fascinating to see whether Giuseppe can get the best out of our players. I think this squad - even without the pacy striker most of us think we need - is better than our current league position suggests. For whatever reason they have under-performed this term - and they know that. The City game will have enhanced the coach's reputation with the players and increased confidence, let's hope Forest on Thursday enhances it further. We need to start winning games asap.[/p][/quote]Yes, our season needs to start now. Will we get anyone in by Friday?.... personally I think it will be the loan window now, and only a defensive midfielder. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 5

4:25pm Tue 28 Jan 14

mooneysmagic says...

Surely Doyley has to be given another year now.Su
Surely Doyley has to be given another year now.Su mooneysmagic
  • Score: 6

4:37pm Tue 28 Jan 14

tiger bay says...

BigBadVirgil wrote:
amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender.
Not that tired old chestnut again...not the best on the ball but truly a great!!?? Haha!!
[quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender.[/p][/quote]Not that tired old chestnut again...not the best on the ball but truly a great!!?? Haha!! tiger bay
  • Score: -10

6:20pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Essex Hornet says...

Great comments from Lloyd for giving well deserved recognition to the 3,500 Watford fans who kept up the singing for most of the game and drowned out the City masses. The fact that he and Daniel Pudil also threw their shirts into the crowd at full time was a nice touch and showed just how much they appreciated the support. A few of the other players could learn from the likes of Lloyd, Daniel and Troy when it comes to showing their appreciation to the supporters. It costs nothing to come over at the end of the game and say thank you.
Great comments from Lloyd for giving well deserved recognition to the 3,500 Watford fans who kept up the singing for most of the game and drowned out the City masses. The fact that he and Daniel Pudil also threw their shirts into the crowd at full time was a nice touch and showed just how much they appreciated the support. A few of the other players could learn from the likes of Lloyd, Daniel and Troy when it comes to showing their appreciation to the supporters. It costs nothing to come over at the end of the game and say thank you. Essex Hornet
  • Score: 6

7:43pm Tue 28 Jan 14

EltonForever says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
This season has turned into one of transition which is not what we expected with all of the pre-season signings, etc.

Beppe needs to keep doing what he's doing, hopefully turn some draws into wins and who knows what will happen. If we stay mid-table this season then that's fine with me. Next season, with a clear steer from Beppe and a settled squad, we should be in a stronger position.

Happy Tuesday

HC
That's much better, HC!

A little bit of positivity goes a long way.

Keep taking the tablets and I may start to like your posts after all.

Happy Tuesday to you too.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: This season has turned into one of transition which is not what we expected with all of the pre-season signings, etc. Beppe needs to keep doing what he's doing, hopefully turn some draws into wins and who knows what will happen. If we stay mid-table this season then that's fine with me. Next season, with a clear steer from Beppe and a settled squad, we should be in a stronger position. Happy Tuesday HC[/p][/quote]That's much better, HC! A little bit of positivity goes a long way. Keep taking the tablets and I may start to like your posts after all. Happy Tuesday to you too. EltonForever
  • Score: 0

7:48pm Tue 28 Jan 14

EltonForever says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
This season has turned into one of transition which is not what we expected with all of the pre-season signings, etc.

Beppe needs to keep doing what he's doing, hopefully turn some draws into wins and who knows what will happen. If we stay mid-table this season then that's fine with me. Next season, with a clear steer from Beppe and a settled squad, we should be in a stronger position.

Happy Tuesday

HC
Positivity goes a long way!
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: This season has turned into one of transition which is not what we expected with all of the pre-season signings, etc. Beppe needs to keep doing what he's doing, hopefully turn some draws into wins and who knows what will happen. If we stay mid-table this season then that's fine with me. Next season, with a clear steer from Beppe and a settled squad, we should be in a stronger position. Happy Tuesday HC[/p][/quote]Positivity goes a long way! EltonForever
  • Score: 0

9:54pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Emmer Green Hornet says...

tiger bay wrote:
BigBadVirgil wrote:
amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender.
Not that tired old chestnut again...not the best on the ball but truly a great!!?? Haha!!
Posts like this show such limited football knowledge. You are the type that probably booed Gavin Mahon, thought Hogg was useless and generally don't understand that a 'team' cannot contain just silky skilled players.
[quote][p][bold]tiger bay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender.[/p][/quote]Not that tired old chestnut again...not the best on the ball but truly a great!!?? Haha!![/p][/quote]Posts like this show such limited football knowledge. You are the type that probably booed Gavin Mahon, thought Hogg was useless and generally don't understand that a 'team' cannot contain just silky skilled players. Emmer Green Hornet
  • Score: 5

8:03am Wed 29 Jan 14

tiger bay says...

Emmer Green Hornet wrote:
tiger bay wrote:
BigBadVirgil wrote:
amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender.
Not that tired old chestnut again...not the best on the ball but truly a great!!?? Haha!!
Posts like this show such limited football knowledge. You are the type that probably booed Gavin Mahon, thought Hogg was useless and generally don't understand that a 'team' cannot contain just silky skilled players.
Posts like yours show arrogance and ignorance. You know nothing of me..I have NEVER booed ANY player.I thought Mahon did a good job but stayed a season too long and Hoggy was a great squad player who was realistic enough to realise his limitations in the style preferred by Zola. Despite your self righteous presumption that I think we should field 11 Ronaldos, im of the opinion that a modern day footballer should be capable of the basics before being considered as a great. .sorry if "my type" prefer to think of the likes of Bobby Moore, Gentile, Greg, Mcneill, Beckenbauer, Maldini etc as "great" defenders.. Would love to see the list of greats from "your type"...
[quote][p][bold]Emmer Green Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tiger bay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBadVirgil[/bold] wrote: amd selected by ever Watford manager he has played under. Not the best on the ball - but a truly great defender.[/p][/quote]Not that tired old chestnut again...not the best on the ball but truly a great!!?? Haha!![/p][/quote]Posts like this show such limited football knowledge. You are the type that probably booed Gavin Mahon, thought Hogg was useless and generally don't understand that a 'team' cannot contain just silky skilled players.[/p][/quote]Posts like yours show arrogance and ignorance. You know nothing of me..I have NEVER booed ANY player.I thought Mahon did a good job but stayed a season too long and Hoggy was a great squad player who was realistic enough to realise his limitations in the style preferred by Zola. Despite your self righteous presumption that I think we should field 11 Ronaldos, im of the opinion that a modern day footballer should be capable of the basics before being considered as a great. .sorry if "my type" prefer to think of the likes of Bobby Moore, Gentile, Greg, Mcneill, Beckenbauer, Maldini etc as "great" defenders.. Would love to see the list of greats from "your type"... tiger bay
  • Score: 2

11:39am Wed 29 Jan 14

Voice of reason 7 says...

Correct, Lloyd Doyley isn't as great as Franz Beckenbauer or Paulo Maldini! GASP! SHOCK! He is however still a great defender in that he hardly ever gets beaten, and his reading of the game is better than anybody we have had at right back in the last 30 years except Gibbsy, who also got stick for not being great on the ball. We are Watford Not AC Millan and if we had a right back that was as good defensively as Lloyd and as good on the ball going forward as Coleman at Everton then he would be playing in the champions league and wouldn't be with us. Doyley is exceptional at defending, and has worked hard to improve on the ball. We are privileged to have watched him and he will always be considered a Watford great by anybody that understands the art of defending. Or Loyalty, or dedication to improving and never resting and taking it easy. Or to being a leader on the field and helping new defenders slot in.
Correct, Lloyd Doyley isn't as great as Franz Beckenbauer or Paulo Maldini! GASP! SHOCK! He is however still a great defender in that he hardly ever gets beaten, and his reading of the game is better than anybody we have had at right back in the last 30 years except Gibbsy, who also got stick for not being great on the ball. We are Watford Not AC Millan and if we had a right back that was as good defensively as Lloyd and as good on the ball going forward as Coleman at Everton then he would be playing in the champions league and wouldn't be with us. Doyley is exceptional at defending, and has worked hard to improve on the ball. We are privileged to have watched him and he will always be considered a Watford great by anybody that understands the art of defending. Or Loyalty, or dedication to improving and never resting and taking it easy. Or to being a leader on the field and helping new defenders slot in. Voice of reason 7
  • Score: 4

12:01pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tiger bay says...

Voice of reason 7 wrote:
Correct, Lloyd Doyley isn't as great as Franz Beckenbauer or Paulo Maldini! GASP! SHOCK! He is however still a great defender in that he hardly ever gets beaten, and his reading of the game is better than anybody we have had at right back in the last 30 years except Gibbsy, who also got stick for not being great on the ball. We are Watford Not AC Millan and if we had a right back that was as good defensively as Lloyd and as good on the ball going forward as Coleman at Everton then he would be playing in the champions league and wouldn't be with us. Doyley is exceptional at defending, and has worked hard to improve on the ball. We are privileged to have watched him and he will always be considered a Watford great by anybody that understands the art of defending. Or Loyalty, or dedication to improving and never resting and taking it easy. Or to being a leader on the field and helping new defenders slot in.
You set the bar of greatness very low VoR... Each to their own. ..
[quote][p][bold]Voice of reason 7[/bold] wrote: Correct, Lloyd Doyley isn't as great as Franz Beckenbauer or Paulo Maldini! GASP! SHOCK! He is however still a great defender in that he hardly ever gets beaten, and his reading of the game is better than anybody we have had at right back in the last 30 years except Gibbsy, who also got stick for not being great on the ball. We are Watford Not AC Millan and if we had a right back that was as good defensively as Lloyd and as good on the ball going forward as Coleman at Everton then he would be playing in the champions league and wouldn't be with us. Doyley is exceptional at defending, and has worked hard to improve on the ball. We are privileged to have watched him and he will always be considered a Watford great by anybody that understands the art of defending. Or Loyalty, or dedication to improving and never resting and taking it easy. Or to being a leader on the field and helping new defenders slot in.[/p][/quote]You set the bar of greatness very low VoR... Each to their own. .. tiger bay
  • Score: -3

12:39pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Voice of reason 7 says...

I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.
I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again. Voice of reason 7
  • Score: 1

12:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tiger bay says...

Voice of reason 7 wrote:
I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.
You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka??
[quote][p][bold]Voice of reason 7[/bold] wrote: I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.[/p][/quote]You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka?? tiger bay
  • Score: -3

12:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tiger bay says...

Voice of reason 7 wrote:
I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.
You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka??
[quote][p][bold]Voice of reason 7[/bold] wrote: I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.[/p][/quote]You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka?? tiger bay
  • Score: -3

12:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tiger bay says...

Voice of reason 7 wrote:
I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.
You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka??
[quote][p][bold]Voice of reason 7[/bold] wrote: I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.[/p][/quote]You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka?? tiger bay
  • Score: -3

12:51pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tiger bay says...

Voice of reason 7 wrote:
I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.
You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka??
[quote][p][bold]Voice of reason 7[/bold] wrote: I base it on being a Watford great, I base it on players I ahve seen as a Watford fan for 28 years. In that time I haven't seen too many players of the calibure of Maldini. Doyley is a great Watford defender. He is along with Gibbs the best reader of the game to wear a yellow shirt I have seen. I think it's nice if you can be a defneder that is as good on the ball as Maldiini or Baresi, but it's rae. I consider a defneder great if he is great at defending, too many full backs these days can't defend. Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson play for England despite not being half as good definsivly as our Lloydy, and England have been punished for it time and time again.[/p][/quote]You were doing quite well till you compared Doyley to 2 Premiership internationals .. bit early for vodka?? tiger bay
  • Score: -3

1:22pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Voice of reason 7 says...

I stand by it. Is Lloyd Doyley as good a footballer as those two? No. Does he provide a real attacking threat? No. Can he read the game and get in the correct defensive position more ofen than those two? Yes. Can he jockey a winger and get his body between the player and the goal to prevent an imediate threat better than those two? Yes. Anybody see him take the ball off Augero on Saturday? Anybody see spurs defending at the Etitad this season? Loyd Doyley is not as compleate footballer as Walker or Johnson, but he is a better defnder in it's purest sense. It's just the modern game, and it seems the modern fan values the attacking skills over the defensive these days.
I stand by it. Is Lloyd Doyley as good a footballer as those two? No. Does he provide a real attacking threat? No. Can he read the game and get in the correct defensive position more ofen than those two? Yes. Can he jockey a winger and get his body between the player and the goal to prevent an imediate threat better than those two? Yes. Anybody see him take the ball off Augero on Saturday? Anybody see spurs defending at the Etitad this season? Loyd Doyley is not as compleate footballer as Walker or Johnson, but he is a better defnder in it's purest sense. It's just the modern game, and it seems the modern fan values the attacking skills over the defensive these days. Voice of reason 7
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