Fernando Forestieri injury could leave Watford with just one striker against Barnsley

Watford Observer: Picture: Holly Cant Picture: Holly Cant

Watford have major problems in the attacking department ahead of Saturday after Fernando Forestieri confirmed he suffered a toe injury last night.

Forestieri posted a picture on micro-blogging site Twitter last night which indicated he had stitches on the little toe of his left foot.

And this evening he posted a picture where he was on crutches with a message saying he was in Tesco buying a new toe.

If Forestieri doesn't recover in time then Watford could be left with just one recognised striker against Barnsley on Saturday.

Arsenal loanee Chu-Young Park has a thigh injury and Mathias Ranegie has been given a three-match suspension following his red card last night.

First-year professionals Bernard Mensah and Uche Ikpeazu are on loan at Braintree Town and Crewe Alexandra respectively and academy striker Alex Jakubiak has also joined Braintree.

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7:14pm Wed 12 Mar 14

InterludeWFC says...

Deeney and Anya upfront, Pudil and Faraoni on the wings?
Deeney and Anya upfront, Pudil and Faraoni on the wings? InterludeWFC
  • Score: 24

7:17pm Wed 12 Mar 14

mooneysmagic says...

Give McGugan a go upfront.
Give McGugan a go upfront. mooneysmagic
  • Score: -8

7:20pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Ramageland says...

He posted a picture of it on twitter (along with a comment about the 'bad referee'). Couple of stitches above his little toe - didn't look too bad.
He posted a picture of it on twitter (along with a comment about the 'bad referee'). Couple of stitches above his little toe - didn't look too bad. Ramageland
  • Score: 2

7:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Watford 7 Saints 1 says...

Do we not have emergency recall on any of our players that are out on loan ? I'm sure we have had players that we have had on loan before recalled lastminute.com due to their parent club having injury problems.
Do we not have emergency recall on any of our players that are out on loan ? I'm sure we have had players that we have had on loan before recalled lastminute.com due to their parent club having injury problems. Watford 7 Saints 1
  • Score: 9

7:21pm Wed 12 Mar 14

gloryhornet4 says...

It looks like he took a bit of a kicking as well.
It looks like he took a bit of a kicking as well. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 5

7:24pm Wed 12 Mar 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Play Murray up front. Has a habit of scoring from outside the box, so he must be a sniffer.
Play Murray up front. Has a habit of scoring from outside the box, so he must be a sniffer. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 4

7:38pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

McGugan up front playing off Deeney.
McGugan up front playing off Deeney. Hornankey
  • Score: -5

7:40pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Essex Hornet says...

You couldn't make it up. Fessi with an injured toe and one fit recognised striker left standing.

You could certainly try Murray or Anya with Belkalem as back up on the bench to create space for Troy and provide some threat in the air if needed.
You couldn't make it up. Fessi with an injured toe and one fit recognised striker left standing. You could certainly try Murray or Anya with Belkalem as back up on the bench to create space for Troy and provide some threat in the air if needed. Essex Hornet
  • Score: -1

7:46pm Wed 12 Mar 14

AndyHandShandy says...

They've only got to ask! I'll bring my boots just in case.
They've only got to ask! I'll bring my boots just in case. AndyHandShandy
  • Score: 8

8:03pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

Murray has an eye for goal, reckon he'd do a good job just off Deeney.
Murray has an eye for goal, reckon he'd do a good job just off Deeney. Only 2 Ross Jenkins
  • Score: 6

9:39pm Wed 12 Mar 14

bigdave8 says...

Anya for me ! Could be his best position and the pace we have been lacking upfront all season
Anya for me ! Could be his best position and the pace we have been lacking upfront all season bigdave8
  • Score: 15

9:57pm Wed 12 Mar 14

micksolly says...

He was just showing off doing the weekly shop perhaps he is trying to get a sponsorship deal with Tesco. Hope he plays Saturday when on song is a fantastic player and much needed in our current situation.
He was just showing off doing the weekly shop perhaps he is trying to get a sponsorship deal with Tesco. Hope he plays Saturday when on song is a fantastic player and much needed in our current situation. micksolly
  • Score: 1

12:43am Thu 13 Mar 14

Andrew1963 says...

Play Angela upfront with Deeney. Anya is a poor finisher and has little aerial threat. He would be best coming in from the wings. Two physically strong players upfront for me. A thought also that Keith Mercer would have played with half his foot hanging off. Seemed to recall he split his head open and went off for stitches and came back on to play on more than one occasion.
Play Angela upfront with Deeney. Anya is a poor finisher and has little aerial threat. He would be best coming in from the wings. Two physically strong players upfront for me. A thought also that Keith Mercer would have played with half his foot hanging off. Seemed to recall he split his head open and went off for stitches and came back on to play on more than one occasion. Andrew1963
  • Score: -9

8:35am Thu 13 Mar 14

Surbiton says...

This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword!
This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword! Surbiton
  • Score: -9

9:07am Thu 13 Mar 14

corbindallas says...

Anya will be my choice for this, always thought he would be a good shadow striker and this would be a good time to see now we are not playing for play off place, also his height is irrelevant when it comes to strikers some of the best are diddy so don't know why that has been mentioned, re finishing he scores enough but his role is to cross balls in so guess he needs more practise on this?
Anya will be my choice for this, always thought he would be a good shadow striker and this would be a good time to see now we are not playing for play off place, also his height is irrelevant when it comes to strikers some of the best are diddy so don't know why that has been mentioned, re finishing he scores enough but his role is to cross balls in so guess he needs more practise on this? corbindallas
  • Score: 7

9:08am Thu 13 Mar 14

Boosey says...

It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.
It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win. Boosey
  • Score: -13

10:03am Thu 13 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

Surbiton wrote:
This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword!
Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic.
[quote][p][bold]Surbiton[/bold] wrote: This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword![/p][/quote]Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic. Hornankey
  • Score: 3

10:04am Thu 13 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

Boosey wrote:
It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.
As we did against Yeovil..............
........?
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.[/p][/quote]As we did against Yeovil.............. ........? Hornankey
  • Score: 8

10:16am Thu 13 Mar 14

corbindallas says...

Hornankey wrote:
Surbiton wrote:
This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword!
Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic.
One position that has been a crux of our season and still not sorted never mind, Nana (sic) will still get his 240k, I know it is like a stuck record but Vydra sitting on a bench not even getting on as a sub is a crime, but guess the Pozzo's know that and he pushed the loan through so would not be surprised to see him back next yerr!
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Surbiton[/bold] wrote: This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword![/p][/quote]Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic.[/p][/quote]One position that has been a crux of our season and still not sorted never mind, Nana (sic) will still get his 240k, I know it is like a stuck record but Vydra sitting on a bench not even getting on as a sub is a crime, but guess the Pozzo's know that and he pushed the loan through so would not be surprised to see him back next yerr! corbindallas
  • Score: 2

11:42am Thu 13 Mar 14

matey_from_brighton says...

corbindallas wrote:
Hornankey wrote:
Surbiton wrote:
This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword!
Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic.
One position that has been a crux of our season and still not sorted never mind, Nana (sic) will still get his 240k, I know it is like a stuck record but Vydra sitting on a bench not even getting on as a sub is a crime, but guess the Pozzo's know that and he pushed the loan through so would not be surprised to see him back next yerr!
It would make sense to get Vydra back if we are serious about getting promoted especially as he has now seen that being in the Premiership is not as easy as he may have thought. Not sure it will happen though as he will still attract interest from next years potential premiership strugglers ie the teams that get promoted. That may be in the current management thinking but given their track record probably not.
[quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Surbiton[/bold] wrote: This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword![/p][/quote]Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic.[/p][/quote]One position that has been a crux of our season and still not sorted never mind, Nana (sic) will still get his 240k, I know it is like a stuck record but Vydra sitting on a bench not even getting on as a sub is a crime, but guess the Pozzo's know that and he pushed the loan through so would not be surprised to see him back next yerr![/p][/quote]It would make sense to get Vydra back if we are serious about getting promoted especially as he has now seen that being in the Premiership is not as easy as he may have thought. Not sure it will happen though as he will still attract interest from next years potential premiership strugglers ie the teams that get promoted. That may be in the current management thinking but given their track record probably not. matey_from_brighton
  • Score: 1

11:46am Thu 13 Mar 14

Harry's Bar says...

Someone needs to sort out the squad for next season, and there's a lot to sort out. The goalkeeping situation is a bit of a concern. If we assume Almunia is going to call it a day is Bond up to taking on the no. 1 role? For me he's gone backwards this season, he's lost his confidence. Is it connected to the coaching or is it because he's not playing enough?

Vydra may come back but he'll need the right service. Also, will he be fully committed to playing Championship football again, because if he comes back sulking we'll be no better off.

Will Abdi be fit and if not do you sign a replacement? Will Tozser join permanently? Will Fabbrini come back? Do you offload McGugan? Will Deeney stay? Are Pudil & Faraoni genuine wing backs? etc. etc.
Someone needs to sort out the squad for next season, and there's a lot to sort out. The goalkeeping situation is a bit of a concern. If we assume Almunia is going to call it a day is Bond up to taking on the no. 1 role? For me he's gone backwards this season, he's lost his confidence. Is it connected to the coaching or is it because he's not playing enough? Vydra may come back but he'll need the right service. Also, will he be fully committed to playing Championship football again, because if he comes back sulking we'll be no better off. Will Abdi be fit and if not do you sign a replacement? Will Tozser join permanently? Will Fabbrini come back? Do you offload McGugan? Will Deeney stay? Are Pudil & Faraoni genuine wing backs? etc. etc. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 6

11:50am Thu 13 Mar 14

WessexLad says...

bigdave8 wrote:
Anya for me ! Could be his best position and the pace we have been lacking upfront all season
He certainly put FF's pass away at Doncaster very tidily.
[quote][p][bold]bigdave8[/bold] wrote: Anya for me ! Could be his best position and the pace we have been lacking upfront all season[/p][/quote]He certainly put FF's pass away at Doncaster very tidily. WessexLad
  • Score: 4

11:50am Thu 13 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
Someone needs to sort out the squad for next season, and there's a lot to sort out. The goalkeeping situation is a bit of a concern. If we assume Almunia is going to call it a day is Bond up to taking on the no. 1 role? For me he's gone backwards this season, he's lost his confidence. Is it connected to the coaching or is it because he's not playing enough?

Vydra may come back but he'll need the right service. Also, will he be fully committed to playing Championship football again, because if he comes back sulking we'll be no better off.

Will Abdi be fit and if not do you sign a replacement? Will Tozser join permanently? Will Fabbrini come back? Do you offload McGugan? Will Deeney stay? Are Pudil & Faraoni genuine wing backs? etc. etc.
Lots of questions matey, how about a few positive answers?
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: Someone needs to sort out the squad for next season, and there's a lot to sort out. The goalkeeping situation is a bit of a concern. If we assume Almunia is going to call it a day is Bond up to taking on the no. 1 role? For me he's gone backwards this season, he's lost his confidence. Is it connected to the coaching or is it because he's not playing enough? Vydra may come back but he'll need the right service. Also, will he be fully committed to playing Championship football again, because if he comes back sulking we'll be no better off. Will Abdi be fit and if not do you sign a replacement? Will Tozser join permanently? Will Fabbrini come back? Do you offload McGugan? Will Deeney stay? Are Pudil & Faraoni genuine wing backs? etc. etc.[/p][/quote]Lots of questions matey, how about a few positive answers? bristol hornet
  • Score: 3

1:16pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Boosey says...

Hornankey wrote:
Boosey wrote:
It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.
As we did against Yeovil..............

........?
And you suggested McGugan! Just goes to show how many different opinions are on here.
If any of the players had brains to go with their obvious talent and if they weren't bogged down with untold tactics we would be top or near it.
I have observed many times that when things are going wrong, the players are looking to the touchline for help, maybe if they thought for themselves once in a while we wouldn't be in this predictament.
As I was trying to say we should thrash teams like Barnsley regardless of who is playing!
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.[/p][/quote]As we did against Yeovil.............. ........?[/p][/quote]And you suggested McGugan! Just goes to show how many different opinions are on here. If any of the players had brains to go with their obvious talent and if they weren't bogged down with untold tactics we would be top or near it. I have observed many times that when things are going wrong, the players are looking to the touchline for help, maybe if they thought for themselves once in a while we wouldn't be in this predictament. As I was trying to say we should thrash teams like Barnsley regardless of who is playing! Boosey
  • Score: 1

1:21pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Harry's Bar says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
Someone needs to sort out the squad for next season, and there's a lot to sort out. The goalkeeping situation is a bit of a concern. If we assume Almunia is going to call it a day is Bond up to taking on the no. 1 role? For me he's gone backwards this season, he's lost his confidence. Is it connected to the coaching or is it because he's not playing enough?

Vydra may come back but he'll need the right service. Also, will he be fully committed to playing Championship football again, because if he comes back sulking we'll be no better off.

Will Abdi be fit and if not do you sign a replacement? Will Tozser join permanently? Will Fabbrini come back? Do you offload McGugan? Will Deeney stay? Are Pudil & Faraoni genuine wing backs? etc. etc.
Lots of questions matey, how about a few positive answers?
Nani's paid £240K a year to find the answers, I've got my own job to do. I've just about had it up to here with that scarf wearing clown.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: Someone needs to sort out the squad for next season, and there's a lot to sort out. The goalkeeping situation is a bit of a concern. If we assume Almunia is going to call it a day is Bond up to taking on the no. 1 role? For me he's gone backwards this season, he's lost his confidence. Is it connected to the coaching or is it because he's not playing enough? Vydra may come back but he'll need the right service. Also, will he be fully committed to playing Championship football again, because if he comes back sulking we'll be no better off. Will Abdi be fit and if not do you sign a replacement? Will Tozser join permanently? Will Fabbrini come back? Do you offload McGugan? Will Deeney stay? Are Pudil & Faraoni genuine wing backs? etc. etc.[/p][/quote]Lots of questions matey, how about a few positive answers?[/p][/quote]Nani's paid £240K a year to find the answers, I've got my own job to do. I've just about had it up to here with that scarf wearing clown. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 1

1:21pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

corbindallas wrote:
Hornankey wrote:
Surbiton wrote:
This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword!
Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic.
One position that has been a crux of our season and still not sorted never mind, Nana (sic) will still get his 240k, I know it is like a stuck record but Vydra sitting on a bench not even getting on as a sub is a crime, but guess the Pozzo's know that and he pushed the loan through so would not be surprised to see him back next yerr!
We live in hope rather than expectation.
[quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Surbiton[/bold] wrote: This is poor management. We are awash with defenders, we have been short of strikers for some time now. Yet we let our only remaining youngsters all go out on loan. Suspension and injuries particularly at this time of the season are predictable. Really not good enough for a team with high ambitions. Nani it is time to fall on your sword![/p][/quote]Absolutely right. The resource management is chaotic.[/p][/quote]One position that has been a crux of our season and still not sorted never mind, Nana (sic) will still get his 240k, I know it is like a stuck record but Vydra sitting on a bench not even getting on as a sub is a crime, but guess the Pozzo's know that and he pushed the loan through so would not be surprised to see him back next yerr![/p][/quote]We live in hope rather than expectation. Hornankey
  • Score: 4

1:29pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

Boosey wrote:
Hornankey wrote:
Boosey wrote:
It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.
As we did against Yeovil..............


........?
And you suggested McGugan! Just goes to show how many different opinions are on here.
If any of the players had brains to go with their obvious talent and if they weren't bogged down with untold tactics we would be top or near it.
I have observed many times that when things are going wrong, the players are looking to the touchline for help, maybe if they thought for themselves once in a while we wouldn't be in this predictament.
As I was trying to say we should thrash teams like Barnsley regardless of who is playing!
I agree. We should thrash Barnsley. It's always interesting how different supporters see the game and players from different perspectives. However, the players should all be working to the same plan and driven back on to it from the touchline when they stray off it. Perhaps it's language or communication but it's not happening the way it should.
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.[/p][/quote]As we did against Yeovil.............. ........?[/p][/quote]And you suggested McGugan! Just goes to show how many different opinions are on here. If any of the players had brains to go with their obvious talent and if they weren't bogged down with untold tactics we would be top or near it. I have observed many times that when things are going wrong, the players are looking to the touchline for help, maybe if they thought for themselves once in a while we wouldn't be in this predictament. As I was trying to say we should thrash teams like Barnsley regardless of who is playing![/p][/quote]I agree. We should thrash Barnsley. It's always interesting how different supporters see the game and players from different perspectives. However, the players should all be working to the same plan and driven back on to it from the touchline when they stray off it. Perhaps it's language or communication but it's not happening the way it should. Hornankey
  • Score: 2

1:56pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SAHornet says...

This has been a poor season, with generally mediocre players, poor recruitment, and I'm sorry to say, some poor leadership by The Pozzo's. I'm hoping that Gino might become a little more "british" in his outlook next season and realize that the manager system works better than the head-coach system in our country. The need for all at the club to speak at least half decent english is important and I do think that that was something that GZ understood. This season is now over as far as promotion is concerned but let's at least get our entire house in order for the start of next season.
This has been a poor season, with generally mediocre players, poor recruitment, and I'm sorry to say, some poor leadership by The Pozzo's. I'm hoping that Gino might become a little more "british" in his outlook next season and realize that the manager system works better than the head-coach system in our country. The need for all at the club to speak at least half decent english is important and I do think that that was something that GZ understood. This season is now over as far as promotion is concerned but let's at least get our entire house in order for the start of next season. SAHornet
  • Score: 1

3:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Kismet110 says...

If players aren't getting themselves needlessly and stupidly suspended for 3 games at a time they're either not match fit, getting slight injuries that take months to heal for some inexplicable reason, fatigued or ill - WTF?

Seriously, we've had much smaller squads in previous seasons yet I've never seen the level of outages like this season - is it the medical team? Or the strength/fitness training?

Back on track, stick Deeney up front on his own with attack minded players supporting him (maybe a 3421 with Anya and McGugan just behind him) or, as others have suggested, Anya joins him and we have Pudil + Faraoni as wingbacks with Toszer, Merkel and (dare I say it?) McGugan in the middle.

Try anything, this season is now over and Barnsley (no disrespect) should be a win. Unlike the horror road show we've been excellent at home since GS arrived (even the one loss we should have easily won).

Roll on the new stand. A new manager. 3 or 4 KEY players in.

Next season can't start soon enough.
If players aren't getting themselves needlessly and stupidly suspended for 3 games at a time they're either not match fit, getting slight injuries that take months to heal for some inexplicable reason, fatigued or ill - WTF? Seriously, we've had much smaller squads in previous seasons yet I've never seen the level of outages like this season - is it the medical team? Or the strength/fitness training? Back on track, stick Deeney up front on his own with attack minded players supporting him (maybe a 3421 with Anya and McGugan just behind him) or, as others have suggested, Anya joins him and we have Pudil + Faraoni as wingbacks with Toszer, Merkel and (dare I say it?) McGugan in the middle. Try anything, this season is now over and Barnsley (no disrespect) should be a win. Unlike the horror road show we've been excellent at home since GS arrived (even the one loss we should have easily won). Roll on the new stand. A new manager. 3 or 4 KEY players in. Next season can't start soon enough. Kismet110
  • Score: 3

4:03pm Thu 13 Mar 14

bristol hornet says...

Kismet110 wrote:
If players aren't getting themselves needlessly and stupidly suspended for 3 games at a time they're either not match fit, getting slight injuries that take months to heal for some inexplicable reason, fatigued or ill - WTF?

Seriously, we've had much smaller squads in previous seasons yet I've never seen the level of outages like this season - is it the medical team? Or the strength/fitness training?

Back on track, stick Deeney up front on his own with attack minded players supporting him (maybe a 3421 with Anya and McGugan just behind him) or, as others have suggested, Anya joins him and we have Pudil + Faraoni as wingbacks with Toszer, Merkel and (dare I say it?) McGugan in the middle.

Try anything, this season is now over and Barnsley (no disrespect) should be a win. Unlike the horror road show we've been excellent at home since GS arrived (even the one loss we should have easily won).

Roll on the new stand. A new manager. 3 or 4 KEY players in.

Next season can't start soon enough.
I remember fans saying the same at roughly the same stage of the last season......we will easily beat Barnsley, Peterboro and Millwall.....and we lost the lot!!

Not forgetting that dreadful night at Ashton Gate as well! I think our away form has carried on from we left off last season?
[quote][p][bold]Kismet110[/bold] wrote: If players aren't getting themselves needlessly and stupidly suspended for 3 games at a time they're either not match fit, getting slight injuries that take months to heal for some inexplicable reason, fatigued or ill - WTF? Seriously, we've had much smaller squads in previous seasons yet I've never seen the level of outages like this season - is it the medical team? Or the strength/fitness training? Back on track, stick Deeney up front on his own with attack minded players supporting him (maybe a 3421 with Anya and McGugan just behind him) or, as others have suggested, Anya joins him and we have Pudil + Faraoni as wingbacks with Toszer, Merkel and (dare I say it?) McGugan in the middle. Try anything, this season is now over and Barnsley (no disrespect) should be a win. Unlike the horror road show we've been excellent at home since GS arrived (even the one loss we should have easily won). Roll on the new stand. A new manager. 3 or 4 KEY players in. Next season can't start soon enough.[/p][/quote]I remember fans saying the same at roughly the same stage of the last season......we will easily beat Barnsley, Peterboro and Millwall.....and we lost the lot!! Not forgetting that dreadful night at Ashton Gate as well! I think our away form has carried on from we left off last season? bristol hornet
  • Score: 4

4:43pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SamTheEagle says...

I’ve occasionally posted comments on these pages and I have read the many debates as to whether 3-5-2 works better than 4-5-1 or if the striking partnership of Deeney/Forestieri works better better than that of Deeney/Acuna or Renegie or whoever. All comments, I’m sure have validity.

But here’s a thought. I liked Zola. Some of the football we played under his guidance was the best ever seen by a Watford team – and I have been watching the team since the late 50s. I like Sannino. He has steadied the ship and even though the football isn’t as dynamic as it was under Zola, and we probably won’t make the play-offs now, we are almost certainly guaranteed another season in the Championship. And, in spite of having some reservations about the Pozzo’s (the sacking of Sean Dyche being one) I think they have done a good job. Let’s be honest, had it not been for them taking over, we probably would have been in dire straights by now and would have been playing against our Bedfordshire neighbours next season.

All that said I really believe that unless, next season, we get a manager who is British or who has had experience of managing in the English Championship or even Division One we will have another disappointing season. Statistics can be manipulated in many ways but look at these:

2004/05 – Sunderland (Mick McCarthy), Wigan (Paul Jewel), West Ham (Alan Pardew).
2005/06 – Reading (Steve Copell), Sheffield United (Neil Warnock), Watford (Aidy Boothroyd). 2006/07 – Sunderland (Roy Keane), Birmingham City (Steve Bruce), Derby County (Billy Davies). 2007/08 – WBA (Tony Mowbray), Stoke City (Tony Pulis), Hull City (Phil Brown).
2008/09 – Wolves (Mick McCarthy), Birmingham City (Alex McLeish), Burnley (Owen Coyle).
2009/10 – Newcastle United (Chris Hughton), WBA (Roberto Di Matteo), Blackpool (Ian Holloway). 2010/11 – QPR (Ian Warnock), Norwich (Paul Lambert), Swansea (Brendan Rodgers).
2011/12 – Reading (Brian McDermott), Southampton (Nigel Adkins), West Ham (Sam Allardyce).
2012/13 – Cardiff City (Malky Mackay), Hull City (Steve Bruce), Crystal Palace (Ian Holloway).

With the exception of West Bromwich Albion in the 2009/10 season every team that has been promoted to the Premiership has had a British manager.

And I would expect the same to be true of this season. As the table stands now, the top six teams in the Championship are all managed by British managers: leicester (Nigel Pearson), Burnley (Sean Dyche), Derby (Steve McClaren), QPR (Harry Redknapp), Nottingham Forset (Billy Davies) and Reading (Nigel Adkins). The only team that may sneak into the play-offs are Wigan who are managed by Uwe Rosler. He served his apprentiship at Brentford.

Nothing would please me more than see Sannino to prove me wrong and we make a late run, finish sixth and win at Wembley. Just one other thought. Di Matteo has been seen at Vicarage Road, guests of the Pozzo’s, at least twice this season. He is the only one mentioned above who actually speaks the same language as the club’s owners!
I’ve occasionally posted comments on these pages and I have read the many debates as to whether 3-5-2 works better than 4-5-1 or if the striking partnership of Deeney/Forestieri works better better than that of Deeney/Acuna or Renegie or whoever. All comments, I’m sure have validity. But here’s a thought. I liked Zola. Some of the football we played under his guidance was the best ever seen by a Watford team – and I have been watching the team since the late 50s. I like Sannino. He has steadied the ship and even though the football isn’t as dynamic as it was under Zola, and we probably won’t make the play-offs now, we are almost certainly guaranteed another season in the Championship. And, in spite of having some reservations about the Pozzo’s (the sacking of Sean Dyche being one) I think they have done a good job. Let’s be honest, had it not been for them taking over, we probably would have been in dire straights by now and would have been playing against our Bedfordshire neighbours next season. All that said I really believe that unless, next season, we get a manager who is British or who has had experience of managing in the English Championship or even Division One we will have another disappointing season. Statistics can be manipulated in many ways but look at these: 2004/05 – Sunderland (Mick McCarthy), Wigan (Paul Jewel), West Ham (Alan Pardew). 2005/06 – Reading (Steve Copell), Sheffield United (Neil Warnock), Watford (Aidy Boothroyd). 2006/07 – Sunderland (Roy Keane), Birmingham City (Steve Bruce), Derby County (Billy Davies). 2007/08 – WBA (Tony Mowbray), Stoke City (Tony Pulis), Hull City (Phil Brown). 2008/09 – Wolves (Mick McCarthy), Birmingham City (Alex McLeish), Burnley (Owen Coyle). 2009/10 – Newcastle United (Chris Hughton), WBA (Roberto Di Matteo), Blackpool (Ian Holloway). 2010/11 – QPR (Ian Warnock), Norwich (Paul Lambert), Swansea (Brendan Rodgers). 2011/12 – Reading (Brian McDermott), Southampton (Nigel Adkins), West Ham (Sam Allardyce). 2012/13 – Cardiff City (Malky Mackay), Hull City (Steve Bruce), Crystal Palace (Ian Holloway). With the exception of West Bromwich Albion in the 2009/10 season every team that has been promoted to the Premiership has had a British manager. And I would expect the same to be true of this season. As the table stands now, the top six teams in the Championship are all managed by British managers: leicester (Nigel Pearson), Burnley (Sean Dyche), Derby (Steve McClaren), QPR (Harry Redknapp), Nottingham Forset (Billy Davies) and Reading (Nigel Adkins). The only team that may sneak into the play-offs are Wigan who are managed by Uwe Rosler. He served his apprentiship at Brentford. Nothing would please me more than see Sannino to prove me wrong and we make a late run, finish sixth and win at Wembley. Just one other thought. Di Matteo has been seen at Vicarage Road, guests of the Pozzo’s, at least twice this season. He is the only one mentioned above who actually speaks the same language as the club’s owners! SamTheEagle
  • Score: 9

5:01pm Thu 13 Mar 14

mickallen57 says...

I don't see why Deeney and Anya could not do a job for us. Failing that I too would like to see Sean Murray

It is funny how one result can knock the confidence , and Donny certainly has done that . This season has been a disappointment , it was always going to be a tough job for Beppe in the transition period . We have all been disappointed because of our expectations. Dyche never got us above mid table with a considerably less talented squad but he seems to have got Burnley going this year. So why can't we. Truth is we have the players the manager and the owners, and a new stand as well but something is not quite clicking. May be next season it will all start moving in the right direction . This is a tough league we know that. On our day we can beat anyone . I don't think we are far off the finished article . Tinkering rather than surgery . It maybe too late this season but I for one believe we can do this .
I don't see why Deeney and Anya could not do a job for us. Failing that I too would like to see Sean Murray It is funny how one result can knock the confidence , and Donny certainly has done that . This season has been a disappointment , it was always going to be a tough job for Beppe in the transition period . We have all been disappointed because of our expectations. Dyche never got us above mid table with a considerably less talented squad but he seems to have got Burnley going this year. So why can't we. Truth is we have the players the manager and the owners, and a new stand as well but something is not quite clicking. May be next season it will all start moving in the right direction . This is a tough league we know that. On our day we can beat anyone . I don't think we are far off the finished article . Tinkering rather than surgery . It maybe too late this season but I for one believe we can do this . mickallen57
  • Score: 1

5:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

francowatford says...

mickallen57 wrote:
I don't see why Deeney and Anya could not do a job for us. Failing that I too would like to see Sean Murray

It is funny how one result can knock the confidence , and Donny certainly has done that . This season has been a disappointment , it was always going to be a tough job for Beppe in the transition period . We have all been disappointed because of our expectations. Dyche never got us above mid table with a considerably less talented squad but he seems to have got Burnley going this year. So why can't we. Truth is we have the players the manager and the owners, and a new stand as well but something is not quite clicking. May be next season it will all start moving in the right direction . This is a tough league we know that. On our day we can beat anyone . I don't think we are far off the finished article . Tinkering rather than surgery . It maybe too late this season but I for one believe we can do this .
can we stop using the cliche of "on our day we can beat anyone" So shall we strive to be a Yeovil as on their day they can beat anyone...us 3-0 or shall we strive to a team that wins more than we lose
[quote][p][bold]mickallen57[/bold] wrote: I don't see why Deeney and Anya could not do a job for us. Failing that I too would like to see Sean Murray It is funny how one result can knock the confidence , and Donny certainly has done that . This season has been a disappointment , it was always going to be a tough job for Beppe in the transition period . We have all been disappointed because of our expectations. Dyche never got us above mid table with a considerably less talented squad but he seems to have got Burnley going this year. So why can't we. Truth is we have the players the manager and the owners, and a new stand as well but something is not quite clicking. May be next season it will all start moving in the right direction . This is a tough league we know that. On our day we can beat anyone . I don't think we are far off the finished article . Tinkering rather than surgery . It maybe too late this season but I for one believe we can do this .[/p][/quote]can we stop using the cliche of "on our day we can beat anyone" So shall we strive to be a Yeovil as on their day they can beat anyone...us 3-0 or shall we strive to a team that wins more than we lose francowatford
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Thu 13 Mar 14

SAHornet says...

SamTheEagle wrote:
I’ve occasionally posted comments on these pages and I have read the many debates as to whether 3-5-2 works better than 4-5-1 or if the striking partnership of Deeney/Forestieri works better better than that of Deeney/Acuna or Renegie or whoever. All comments, I’m sure have validity.

But here’s a thought. I liked Zola. Some of the football we played under his guidance was the best ever seen by a Watford team – and I have been watching the team since the late 50s. I like Sannino. He has steadied the ship and even though the football isn’t as dynamic as it was under Zola, and we probably won’t make the play-offs now, we are almost certainly guaranteed another season in the Championship. And, in spite of having some reservations about the Pozzo’s (the sacking of Sean Dyche being one) I think they have done a good job. Let’s be honest, had it not been for them taking over, we probably would have been in dire straights by now and would have been playing against our Bedfordshire neighbours next season.

All that said I really believe that unless, next season, we get a manager who is British or who has had experience of managing in the English Championship or even Division One we will have another disappointing season. Statistics can be manipulated in many ways but look at these:

2004/05 – Sunderland (Mick McCarthy), Wigan (Paul Jewel), West Ham (Alan Pardew).
2005/06 – Reading (Steve Copell), Sheffield United (Neil Warnock), Watford (Aidy Boothroyd). 2006/07 – Sunderland (Roy Keane), Birmingham City (Steve Bruce), Derby County (Billy Davies). 2007/08 – WBA (Tony Mowbray), Stoke City (Tony Pulis), Hull City (Phil Brown).
2008/09 – Wolves (Mick McCarthy), Birmingham City (Alex McLeish), Burnley (Owen Coyle).
2009/10 – Newcastle United (Chris Hughton), WBA (Roberto Di Matteo), Blackpool (Ian Holloway). 2010/11 – QPR (Ian Warnock), Norwich (Paul Lambert), Swansea (Brendan Rodgers).
2011/12 – Reading (Brian McDermott), Southampton (Nigel Adkins), West Ham (Sam Allardyce).
2012/13 – Cardiff City (Malky Mackay), Hull City (Steve Bruce), Crystal Palace (Ian Holloway).

With the exception of West Bromwich Albion in the 2009/10 season every team that has been promoted to the Premiership has had a British manager.

And I would expect the same to be true of this season. As the table stands now, the top six teams in the Championship are all managed by British managers: leicester (Nigel Pearson), Burnley (Sean Dyche), Derby (Steve McClaren), QPR (Harry Redknapp), Nottingham Forset (Billy Davies) and Reading (Nigel Adkins). The only team that may sneak into the play-offs are Wigan who are managed by Uwe Rosler. He served his apprentiship at Brentford.

Nothing would please me more than see Sannino to prove me wrong and we make a late run, finish sixth and win at Wembley. Just one other thought. Di Matteo has been seen at Vicarage Road, guests of the Pozzo’s, at least twice this season. He is the only one mentioned above who actually speaks the same language as the club’s owners!
Well written Sam. You should contribute more often.
[quote][p][bold]SamTheEagle[/bold] wrote: I’ve occasionally posted comments on these pages and I have read the many debates as to whether 3-5-2 works better than 4-5-1 or if the striking partnership of Deeney/Forestieri works better better than that of Deeney/Acuna or Renegie or whoever. All comments, I’m sure have validity. But here’s a thought. I liked Zola. Some of the football we played under his guidance was the best ever seen by a Watford team – and I have been watching the team since the late 50s. I like Sannino. He has steadied the ship and even though the football isn’t as dynamic as it was under Zola, and we probably won’t make the play-offs now, we are almost certainly guaranteed another season in the Championship. And, in spite of having some reservations about the Pozzo’s (the sacking of Sean Dyche being one) I think they have done a good job. Let’s be honest, had it not been for them taking over, we probably would have been in dire straights by now and would have been playing against our Bedfordshire neighbours next season. All that said I really believe that unless, next season, we get a manager who is British or who has had experience of managing in the English Championship or even Division One we will have another disappointing season. Statistics can be manipulated in many ways but look at these: 2004/05 – Sunderland (Mick McCarthy), Wigan (Paul Jewel), West Ham (Alan Pardew). 2005/06 – Reading (Steve Copell), Sheffield United (Neil Warnock), Watford (Aidy Boothroyd). 2006/07 – Sunderland (Roy Keane), Birmingham City (Steve Bruce), Derby County (Billy Davies). 2007/08 – WBA (Tony Mowbray), Stoke City (Tony Pulis), Hull City (Phil Brown). 2008/09 – Wolves (Mick McCarthy), Birmingham City (Alex McLeish), Burnley (Owen Coyle). 2009/10 – Newcastle United (Chris Hughton), WBA (Roberto Di Matteo), Blackpool (Ian Holloway). 2010/11 – QPR (Ian Warnock), Norwich (Paul Lambert), Swansea (Brendan Rodgers). 2011/12 – Reading (Brian McDermott), Southampton (Nigel Adkins), West Ham (Sam Allardyce). 2012/13 – Cardiff City (Malky Mackay), Hull City (Steve Bruce), Crystal Palace (Ian Holloway). With the exception of West Bromwich Albion in the 2009/10 season every team that has been promoted to the Premiership has had a British manager. And I would expect the same to be true of this season. As the table stands now, the top six teams in the Championship are all managed by British managers: leicester (Nigel Pearson), Burnley (Sean Dyche), Derby (Steve McClaren), QPR (Harry Redknapp), Nottingham Forset (Billy Davies) and Reading (Nigel Adkins). The only team that may sneak into the play-offs are Wigan who are managed by Uwe Rosler. He served his apprentiship at Brentford. Nothing would please me more than see Sannino to prove me wrong and we make a late run, finish sixth and win at Wembley. Just one other thought. Di Matteo has been seen at Vicarage Road, guests of the Pozzo’s, at least twice this season. He is the only one mentioned above who actually speaks the same language as the club’s owners![/p][/quote]Well written Sam. You should contribute more often. SAHornet
  • Score: 2

5:28pm Thu 13 Mar 14

endean2 says...

Boosey wrote:
It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.
you reckon do you?

considerably more confidence than I have
[quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.[/p][/quote]you reckon do you? considerably more confidence than I have endean2
  • Score: 1

11:46am Fri 14 Mar 14

Boosey says...

endean2 wrote:
Boosey wrote:
It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.
you reckon do you?

considerably more confidence than I have
I am a Watford supporter through and through, of course we are going to win!
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boosey[/bold] wrote: It doesn't matter who plays up front, against Barnsley we could play an academy player and win.[/p][/quote]you reckon do you? considerably more confidence than I have[/p][/quote]I am a Watford supporter through and through, of course we are going to win! Boosey
  • Score: 1

7:46pm Fri 14 Mar 14

mickallen57 says...

francowatford wrote:
mickallen57 wrote:
I don't see why Deeney and Anya could not do a job for us. Failing that I too would like to see Sean Murray

It is funny how one result can knock the confidence , and Donny certainly has done that . This season has been a disappointment , it was always going to be a tough job for Beppe in the transition period . We have all been disappointed because of our expectations. Dyche never got us above mid table with a considerably less talented squad but he seems to have got Burnley going this year. So why can't we. Truth is we have the players the manager and the owners, and a new stand as well but something is not quite clicking. May be next season it will all start moving in the right direction . This is a tough league we know that. On our day we can beat anyone . I don't think we are far off the finished article . Tinkering rather than surgery . It maybe too late this season but I for one believe we can do this .
can we stop using the cliche of "on our day we can beat anyone" So shall we strive to be a Yeovil as on their day they can beat anyone...us 3-0 or shall we strive to a team that wins more than we lose
Why not use it if it is true .Tell me which of the teams we are unable to beat.
[quote][p][bold]francowatford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickallen57[/bold] wrote: I don't see why Deeney and Anya could not do a job for us. Failing that I too would like to see Sean Murray It is funny how one result can knock the confidence , and Donny certainly has done that . This season has been a disappointment , it was always going to be a tough job for Beppe in the transition period . We have all been disappointed because of our expectations. Dyche never got us above mid table with a considerably less talented squad but he seems to have got Burnley going this year. So why can't we. Truth is we have the players the manager and the owners, and a new stand as well but something is not quite clicking. May be next season it will all start moving in the right direction . This is a tough league we know that. On our day we can beat anyone . I don't think we are far off the finished article . Tinkering rather than surgery . It maybe too late this season but I for one believe we can do this .[/p][/quote]can we stop using the cliche of "on our day we can beat anyone" So shall we strive to be a Yeovil as on their day they can beat anyone...us 3-0 or shall we strive to a team that wins more than we lose[/p][/quote]Why not use it if it is true .Tell me which of the teams we are unable to beat. mickallen57
  • Score: 0

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