Beppe Sannino believes Watford showed more commitment at Wigan Athletic than other away games

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Beppe Sannino believes Watford’s players showed more commitment and effort this afternoon compared to previous away games despite suffering a 2-1 defeat to Wigan Athletic.

The Golden Boys have not won on the road since October 5 – a six-month period covering 14 games in all competitions and two head coaches.

Watford’s away form has all-but ended their play-off hopes, with the club now 12th in the Championship and 11 points below the top six with ten games remaining.

Whereas Wigan have won nine out of their last ten matches in all tournaments and sit fifth in the Championship.

“We played better than we have done away from home [recently] but I can’t be happy [with the performance] because of the result,” Sannino said.

"When I lose I am always disappointed. But I can say my lads gave everything in terms of effort, spirit and commitment.

“We had good chances to score today but we also made mistakes, for example the first goal came from one of those mistakes.

"Let's not forget we were playing a very good side and it was a good fight today.”

He later added: “Wigan are a good side and caused us problems today. But I can see some positives from the performance.

“My lads showed me more in terms of commitment and desire, compared to our previous away games.”

Watford took the lead on 36 minutes through Lewis McGugan but then conceded just four minutes later to go into the break level.

"It would have been an advantage to have gone in 1-0 up at half-time but our mistakes meant we went back into the dressing room without a lead [at half-time],” Sannino said.

Wigan caused Watford significant problems down the visitors’ right side in the first half, as Davide Faraoni and Essaid Belkalem struggled to cope with left wing back Jean Beausejour and Athletic’s attackers.

When asked about the problems his team suffered down their right side, Sannino simply replied: “Sometimes we created the problems on our own. So yes I am disappointed about that.”

Watford Observer: Essaid Belkalem has been described as a humble and ambitious player. Picture: Holly Cant

Belkalem has struggled since he joined Watford in the summer and was making his first start since October following several months out injured.

The Algerian international replaced Lloyd Doyley in the starting XI and the experienced defender was one of four players on the bench who could be used at centre half – the others being Joel Ekstrand, Lucas Neill and Tommie Hoban.

Sannino said: “Belkalem is a part of the Watford group. He has worked a lot in the last few weeks and for me it is important to give players the chance.

“Plus we have another game in a few days. So they were the reasons he played.”

Hoban was a crucial member of the Hornets side last season until an ankle injury ruled him out for a year.

He made his return as a half-time substitute against Middlesbrough on February 15 but has not featured since.

Fellow defender Lucas Neill has also only been used as a substitute since he arrived at the club.

When asked if Hoban and Neill were fit enough to start matches, Sannino replied: “Tommie Hoban will have his chance very soon because we have to see other players for the future.”

Read Wigan's Uwe Rosler's comments here and a match report from the game can be found here.

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8:26pm Sat 22 Mar 14

endean2 says...

sorry obviously about the result, BUT that possibly is the reality check we need to face as supporters.

Leicester and Burnley automatic, then a host of really good teams with a chance of playoffs. I watched Derby totally destroy Forest with a quality of football that we can only dream of this season.
Wigan played us of the park apparently today add QPR etc etc
there 7 or 8 teams better than us this season.

so its not "tinkering" with the squad
2 or 3 new key players coming in, bla bla bla
If we are serious about promo next season its going to be majour
surgery required because as things stand we a simply very average
at best.
WAKE UP GUYS and at least be realistic!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry obviously about the result, BUT that possibly is the reality check we need to face as supporters. Leicester and Burnley automatic, then a host of really good teams with a chance of playoffs. I watched Derby totally destroy Forest with a quality of football that we can only dream of this season. Wigan played us of the park apparently today add QPR etc etc there 7 or 8 teams better than us this season. so its not "tinkering" with the squad 2 or 3 new key players coming in, bla bla bla If we are serious about promo next season its going to be majour surgery required because as things stand we a simply very average at best. WAKE UP GUYS and at least be realistic!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! endean2
  • Score: 26

8:53pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Scothorn says...

If they gave everything and lost then they are clearly not good enough - or Beppe is not good enough to get moe from the team. Lets hope that we keep hold of our better players and add to those so that we can have another run at promotion next year.
If they gave everything and lost then they are clearly not good enough - or Beppe is not good enough to get moe from the team. Lets hope that we keep hold of our better players and add to those so that we can have another run at promotion next year. Scothorn
  • Score: 5

8:57pm Sat 22 Mar 14

longcliffe says...

They'll never ever take away our greatest moment.
Deeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnn
nnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyy!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They'll never ever take away our greatest moment. Deeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnn nnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyy!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! longcliffe
  • Score: -17

8:58pm Sat 22 Mar 14

longcliffe says...

They'll never ever take away our greatest moment.
Deeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnn
nnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyy!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They'll never ever take away our greatest moment. Deeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnn nnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyy!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! longcliffe
  • Score: -11

9:26pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Summer breeze says...

Just got back from Wigan. We could have won that game today with more care! Sloppy passing, not looking to see where the recipient of a ball actually was, but , hey what a surprise goal from McGugan out of nowhere! All around me were stunned, all admitting they dissed him so were now delighted; actually he tried really hard today. But why Belkalem who is just too slow and not good enough. Diakite: send him back ASAP, almost first touch and got a yellow card. These bad team choices need urgent review!
Just got back from Wigan. We could have won that game today with more care! Sloppy passing, not looking to see where the recipient of a ball actually was, but , hey what a surprise goal from McGugan out of nowhere! All around me were stunned, all admitting they dissed him so were now delighted; actually he tried really hard today. But why Belkalem who is just too slow and not good enough. Diakite: send him back ASAP, almost first touch and got a yellow card. These bad team choices need urgent review! Summer breeze
  • Score: 29

9:26pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Mark-H says...

I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat...

It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist
I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat... It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist Mark-H
  • Score: 4

9:42pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Bobbyhowfield says...

Probably about the right result today although we had several good chances to score.
Anya did well to get in scoring positions but his shooting was woeful.
4 shots and not one even close to the target.
Probably about the right result today although we had several good chances to score. Anya did well to get in scoring positions but his shooting was woeful. 4 shots and not one even close to the target. Bobbyhowfield
  • Score: 4

9:53pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Andrew1963 says...

Not sure I understand dropping Doyley for Belkalem other than the latter maybe promised matches toward the end of the season. I reckon we will get 67 points, safely becalmed.
Not sure I understand dropping Doyley for Belkalem other than the latter maybe promised matches toward the end of the season. I reckon we will get 67 points, safely becalmed. Andrew1963
  • Score: 0

12:09am Sun 23 Mar 14

rogeruk says...

Mark-H wrote:
I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat...

It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist
Disagree, based on what you have said it’s a perfect reason to be furious. Watford have gone downhill and badly, there is no sign of improvement on the field.

Three Italian managers at Watford and none of them can cut it at championship level. Individually they all bring something to the party but they are not rounded in being able to provide all round leadership.

For me the jury is close to reaching a verdict.

Faraoni was too blame for both goals I understand either directly or indirectly, He is not good enough.

Don’t understand Sannino messing about with Belkalem (who should be playing for Torquay in Div 2 and the Conference), Diakite a joke; 1 Red card and 1 Yellow in how many minutes of football?

If there was an outside chance of the playoffs why put in two very inferior players? Sometimes these Italians are impossible to fathom!
No away win in almost six months,!

Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed.
[quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat... It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist[/p][/quote]Disagree, based on what you have said it’s a perfect reason to be furious. Watford have gone downhill and badly, there is no sign of improvement on the field. Three Italian managers at Watford and none of them can cut it at championship level. Individually they all bring something to the party but they are not rounded in being able to provide all round leadership. For me the jury is close to reaching a verdict. Faraoni was too blame for both goals I understand either directly or indirectly, He is not good enough. Don’t understand Sannino messing about with Belkalem (who should be playing for Torquay in Div 2 and the Conference), Diakite a joke; 1 Red card and 1 Yellow in how many minutes of football? If there was an outside chance of the playoffs why put in two very inferior players? Sometimes these Italians are impossible to fathom! No away win in almost six months,! Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed. rogeruk
  • Score: 5

2:10am Sun 23 Mar 14

barnsey11 says...

Sounds like Bebe had given up the playoffs a while a go like the rest of us and is wisely using the remaining games to help make decisions for next season.
Sounds like Bebe had given up the playoffs a while a go like the rest of us and is wisely using the remaining games to help make decisions for next season. barnsey11
  • Score: 6

5:39am Sun 23 Mar 14

29April1975WasBottom says...

Just back and well p***ed, but also realistic. Sannino's contract is till end of season with option for 12-month extension but I can't see that happening. I'm also hearing from a couple sources close to club (but would like others to confirm if they've heard too) that Duxbury is recommending Pozzos move Nani on in May. That could at least mean a more aggressive approach to bringing in a quality striker (perhaps even getting Vydra back for the last 12 months of his Udinese contract term) and a playmaker to replace Abdi for whom genuine concerns exist about his long term prospects. Anyway, as always, #COYH!!
Just back and well p***ed, but also realistic. Sannino's contract is till end of season with option for 12-month extension but I can't see that happening. I'm also hearing from a couple sources close to club (but would like others to confirm if they've heard too) that Duxbury is recommending Pozzos move Nani on in May. That could at least mean a more aggressive approach to bringing in a quality striker (perhaps even getting Vydra back for the last 12 months of his Udinese contract term) and a playmaker to replace Abdi for whom genuine concerns exist about his long term prospects. Anyway, as always, #COYH!! 29April1975WasBottom
  • Score: 4

7:44am Sun 23 Mar 14

SAHornet says...

rogeruk wrote:
Mark-H wrote:
I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat...

It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist
Disagree, based on what you have said it’s a perfect reason to be furious. Watford have gone downhill and badly, there is no sign of improvement on the field.

Three Italian managers at Watford and none of them can cut it at championship level. Individually they all bring something to the party but they are not rounded in being able to provide all round leadership.

For me the jury is close to reaching a verdict.

Faraoni was too blame for both goals I understand either directly or indirectly, He is not good enough.

Don’t understand Sannino messing about with Belkalem (who should be playing for Torquay in Div 2 and the Conference), Diakite a joke; 1 Red card and 1 Yellow in how many minutes of football?

If there was an outside chance of the playoffs why put in two very inferior players? Sometimes these Italians are impossible to fathom!
No away win in almost six months,!

Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed.
Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed.

AND HIS NAME IS ROBERTO DI MATEO
[quote][p][bold]rogeruk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat... It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist[/p][/quote]Disagree, based on what you have said it’s a perfect reason to be furious. Watford have gone downhill and badly, there is no sign of improvement on the field. Three Italian managers at Watford and none of them can cut it at championship level. Individually they all bring something to the party but they are not rounded in being able to provide all round leadership. For me the jury is close to reaching a verdict. Faraoni was too blame for both goals I understand either directly or indirectly, He is not good enough. Don’t understand Sannino messing about with Belkalem (who should be playing for Torquay in Div 2 and the Conference), Diakite a joke; 1 Red card and 1 Yellow in how many minutes of football? If there was an outside chance of the playoffs why put in two very inferior players? Sometimes these Italians are impossible to fathom! No away win in almost six months,! Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed.[/p][/quote]Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed. AND HIS NAME IS ROBERTO DI MATEO SAHornet
  • Score: 10

9:05am Sun 23 Mar 14

dorphil says...

If he does not like Doyley at least play Hoban instead of belkalem. Zola said he could be our most important signing but when he's been fit and played he's been a disaster
If he does not like Doyley at least play Hoban instead of belkalem. Zola said he could be our most important signing but when he's been fit and played he's been a disaster dorphil
  • Score: 4

9:21am Sun 23 Mar 14

mkhornet says...

I think that Sannino and most people at the club realised several games ago that any realistic chance of the play-offs had gone and Beppe is now looking at some players that he hasn't had the chance to us much to see who he needs to keep and who to move on (ie. Belkalem etc..). We obviously need to lose some and add some but we have a core of good players and if we keep Tozser, get Abdi back to FULL fitness and add 3 quality players I think that we can have a good go next season. I always thought that Beppe's contract was for 18 months so I think that he should be given until Christmas (he hasn't had the chance of working with the squad pre-season and that is crucial for a new manager). If the club do make managerial changes I think that Di Matteo with Beppe as his number two could be the "Dream team".
I think that Sannino and most people at the club realised several games ago that any realistic chance of the play-offs had gone and Beppe is now looking at some players that he hasn't had the chance to us much to see who he needs to keep and who to move on (ie. Belkalem etc..). We obviously need to lose some and add some but we have a core of good players and if we keep Tozser, get Abdi back to FULL fitness and add 3 quality players I think that we can have a good go next season. I always thought that Beppe's contract was for 18 months so I think that he should be given until Christmas (he hasn't had the chance of working with the squad pre-season and that is crucial for a new manager). If the club do make managerial changes I think that Di Matteo with Beppe as his number two could be the "Dream team". mkhornet
  • Score: 4

9:35am Sun 23 Mar 14

Mark-H says...

rogeruk wrote:
Mark-H wrote:
I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat...

It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist
Disagree, based on what you have said it’s a perfect reason to be furious. Watford have gone downhill and badly, there is no sign of improvement on the field.

Three Italian managers at Watford and none of them can cut it at championship level. Individually they all bring something to the party but they are not rounded in being able to provide all round leadership.

For me the jury is close to reaching a verdict.

Faraoni was too blame for both goals I understand either directly or indirectly, He is not good enough.

Don’t understand Sannino messing about with Belkalem (who should be playing for Torquay in Div 2 and the Conference), Diakite a joke; 1 Red card and 1 Yellow in how many minutes of football?

If there was an outside chance of the playoffs why put in two very inferior players? Sometimes these Italians are impossible to fathom!
No away win in almost six months,!

Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed.
I don't see what nationality has to do with it. At least we're trying different options rather than indulging the managerial merry-go-round - maybe if Sannino is fired for 'not being good enough' we could bring in someone like Gary Megson or Alex McLeish? As for being 'impossible to fathom', how about bringing in a British paragon of clear-minded thinking like Paul Ince or Billy Davies? (For the record, I'm joking)

Belkalem came with a strong reputation, but then so did Neuton, Beleck and Ellington. Some signings work, some don't, for any number of reasons. It's just how it goes.

Personally I think that this season has been affected by the summer signings not coming off. If Toszer, Merkel and Ranegie had been signed in the summer I suspect Zola would still be in charge and we'd be continuing as though this crisis of confidence had never happened. Our expectations were raised beyond a reasonable level by last season's unexpected success, and then by somehow staying in 7th until mid-November despite the obvious problems at the time!

Moaning just reminds me of Forest fans...never happy, even when they were secure in the play-offs with one of the biggest squads in the division after spending loads. I don't want Watford to be like them!
[quote][p][bold]rogeruk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: I had us down to lose this today and so it proved. Wigan are clearly a better team than we are right now, just look at their squad! And beating Man City is no small feat... It's not catastrophic to lose to a promotion candidate given that we aren't even in the play-off mix ourselves. Our chances of play-offs were slim to negligible before today anyway, no need to get our knickers in a twist[/p][/quote]Disagree, based on what you have said it’s a perfect reason to be furious. Watford have gone downhill and badly, there is no sign of improvement on the field. Three Italian managers at Watford and none of them can cut it at championship level. Individually they all bring something to the party but they are not rounded in being able to provide all round leadership. For me the jury is close to reaching a verdict. Faraoni was too blame for both goals I understand either directly or indirectly, He is not good enough. Don’t understand Sannino messing about with Belkalem (who should be playing for Torquay in Div 2 and the Conference), Diakite a joke; 1 Red card and 1 Yellow in how many minutes of football? If there was an outside chance of the playoffs why put in two very inferior players? Sometimes these Italians are impossible to fathom! No away win in almost six months,! Anybody know Frankenstein? We need to stitch together Vialli's silver tongue, Zola’s, away game counter attacking football and Sannino's very Italian style home performances. Put all three in one and we will have the rounded manager so badly needed.[/p][/quote]I don't see what nationality has to do with it. At least we're trying different options rather than indulging the managerial merry-go-round - maybe if Sannino is fired for 'not being good enough' we could bring in someone like Gary Megson or Alex McLeish? As for being 'impossible to fathom', how about bringing in a British paragon of clear-minded thinking like Paul Ince or Billy Davies? (For the record, I'm joking) Belkalem came with a strong reputation, but then so did Neuton, Beleck and Ellington. Some signings work, some don't, for any number of reasons. It's just how it goes. Personally I think that this season has been affected by the summer signings not coming off. If Toszer, Merkel and Ranegie had been signed in the summer I suspect Zola would still be in charge and we'd be continuing as though this crisis of confidence had never happened. Our expectations were raised beyond a reasonable level by last season's unexpected success, and then by somehow staying in 7th until mid-November despite the obvious problems at the time! Moaning just reminds me of Forest fans...never happy, even when they were secure in the play-offs with one of the biggest squads in the division after spending loads. I don't want Watford to be like them! Mark-H
  • Score: 18

10:09am Sun 23 Mar 14

Leexxxx says...

Interesting comments that boil down to accepting the play-offs are beyond us, mixed feelings on whether Sanino should have the chance to develop the squad and a call to get new good players and ditch half a dozen of the current crop, not least the pondorous Belkalem and the disastrous Diakme. The tem was good last season and the decline was in part a lack of fire power once teams worked out how to defend and hit us on the break, leading to a collapse in confidence. We are better defensively and competent at home but no wins away is worrying.
Interesting comments that boil down to accepting the play-offs are beyond us, mixed feelings on whether Sanino should have the chance to develop the squad and a call to get new good players and ditch half a dozen of the current crop, not least the pondorous Belkalem and the disastrous Diakme. The tem was good last season and the decline was in part a lack of fire power once teams worked out how to defend and hit us on the break, leading to a collapse in confidence. We are better defensively and competent at home but no wins away is worrying. Leexxxx
  • Score: 0

11:48am Sun 23 Mar 14

Boosey says...

Duxbury has stated that mistakes have been made, they have been identified and if we don't achieve promotion next season it will follow very soon after.
No need to panic, we are in safe hands.
Having said that, Doyley should have come on at half time to deal with the Wigan threat down our right hand side.
Duxbury has stated that mistakes have been made, they have been identified and if we don't achieve promotion next season it will follow very soon after. No need to panic, we are in safe hands. Having said that, Doyley should have come on at half time to deal with the Wigan threat down our right hand side. Boosey
  • Score: 3

12:20pm Sun 23 Mar 14

ramage1996 says...

The dream is over for another season, I want the season to end now so we can get on with winning the world cup.

On a positive note we will have lots of local clubs to play next season, Fulham, Palace, QPR, one of Charlton and Millwall, Brentford, probably one of Orient Peterborough or MK Dons.

I would presume that the away fans will get the whle Vicarage Road end for the big games with the East stand being ready for next year so attendances will go up.
The dream is over for another season, I want the season to end now so we can get on with winning the world cup. On a positive note we will have lots of local clubs to play next season, Fulham, Palace, QPR, one of Charlton and Millwall, Brentford, probably one of Orient Peterborough or MK Dons. I would presume that the away fans will get the whle Vicarage Road end for the big games with the East stand being ready for next year so attendances will go up. ramage1996
  • Score: 5

12:28pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

Bepe, we don't want players who are not committed to the club and who don't try to perform to the best of their abilities. Commitment in each game by every player is an expectation - it is not an 'extra'. Motivating and getting the players committed are key functions of the team manager. You can praise it when it happens but you have to get tough on the players who do not show commitment.....event
ually moving them on if they don't improve.
Bepe, we don't want players who are not committed to the club and who don't try to perform to the best of their abilities. Commitment in each game by every player is an expectation - it is not an 'extra'. Motivating and getting the players committed are key functions of the team manager. You can praise it when it happens but you have to get tough on the players who do not show commitment.....event ually moving them on if they don't improve. Hornankey
  • Score: 3

12:43pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Feff says...

And another to go has to be Nani. Where does he find these lousy players to sign? Belkalem, Diakite - this is sheer incompetence, as were Neuton, Acuna, Geijo, etc. etc. The Manager must choose the players, not some Administrator who knows f*** all.
And another to go has to be Nani. Where does he find these lousy players to sign? Belkalem, Diakite - this is sheer incompetence, as were Neuton, Acuna, Geijo, etc. etc. The Manager must choose the players, not some Administrator who knows f*** all. Feff
  • Score: 0

3:41pm Sun 23 Mar 14

andyhooked says...

The general trend, that I agree with, is that have some very average players that have been acquired and then we rotate them and have no settled side, injuries apart. The season is over for us. Quite right that we are to be run as a business and eventually break even rather than again bust the bank. Then we need both a good mix of useful players coming in through the Pozzo scounting network but more importantly getting players that can cope with the Chamionship and can be improved. Hoban is a great prospect but how much will we continue to regret the sale of Britt when no replacement for Vydra was found. Bad management decisions either from Nani or Duxbury.
The general trend, that I agree with, is that have some very average players that have been acquired and then we rotate them and have no settled side, injuries apart. The season is over for us. Quite right that we are to be run as a business and eventually break even rather than again bust the bank. Then we need both a good mix of useful players coming in through the Pozzo scounting network but more importantly getting players that can cope with the Chamionship and can be improved. Hoban is a great prospect but how much will we continue to regret the sale of Britt when no replacement for Vydra was found. Bad management decisions either from Nani or Duxbury. andyhooked
  • Score: -4

10:40pm Sun 23 Mar 14

gloryhornet4 says...

29April1975WasBottom wrote:
Just back and well p***ed, but also realistic. Sannino's contract is till end of season with option for 12-month extension but I can't see that happening. I'm also hearing from a couple sources close to club (but would like others to confirm if they've heard too) that Duxbury is recommending Pozzos move Nani on in May. That could at least mean a more aggressive approach to bringing in a quality striker (perhaps even getting Vydra back for the last 12 months of his Udinese contract term) and a playmaker to replace Abdi for whom genuine concerns exist about his long term prospects. Anyway, as always, #COYH!!
The main thing with Vydra is giving him a reason to sign a new deal. If he sees out his days at Watford much as I would love it, he will be another Bosman with a nominal compensation for being under 24.
[quote][p][bold]29April1975WasBottom[/bold] wrote: Just back and well p***ed, but also realistic. Sannino's contract is till end of season with option for 12-month extension but I can't see that happening. I'm also hearing from a couple sources close to club (but would like others to confirm if they've heard too) that Duxbury is recommending Pozzos move Nani on in May. That could at least mean a more aggressive approach to bringing in a quality striker (perhaps even getting Vydra back for the last 12 months of his Udinese contract term) and a playmaker to replace Abdi for whom genuine concerns exist about his long term prospects. Anyway, as always, #COYH!![/p][/quote]The main thing with Vydra is giving him a reason to sign a new deal. If he sees out his days at Watford much as I would love it, he will be another Bosman with a nominal compensation for being under 24. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 1

10:50pm Sun 23 Mar 14

Eurotourhorn says...

Time for decisions. No more messing about with misguided loyalties to high wage earners. From now on in only players that will wear the shirt next season should be selected. Out go almunia ( sorry realistically won't cut it next and his distribution from the back often puts opposition in!) cassetti one year too many and just not good enough for ANY position. out goes battochio his passing is of conference standard ; out go belkalem his has the turning arc of an oil tanker, sadly faraoni as wing back not good enough.other fringe out; in Hoban Bond Murray ( when fit) recall loans with any potential and have a look. Few new faces essential but let's see who can cut it now including the coach. On trial for me with a few targets; must speak English by summer, show he can win away and not just win home games against cannon fodder. Sorry went to Wigan and saw a massive group of under achievers. Love the horns and pozzos but this is letting their investment down.
Time for decisions. No more messing about with misguided loyalties to high wage earners. From now on in only players that will wear the shirt next season should be selected. Out go almunia ( sorry realistically won't cut it next and his distribution from the back often puts opposition in!) cassetti one year too many and just not good enough for ANY position. out goes battochio his passing is of conference standard ; out go belkalem his has the turning arc of an oil tanker, sadly faraoni as wing back not good enough.other fringe out; in Hoban Bond Murray ( when fit) recall loans with any potential and have a look. Few new faces essential but let's see who can cut it now including the coach. On trial for me with a few targets; must speak English by summer, show he can win away and not just win home games against cannon fodder. Sorry went to Wigan and saw a massive group of under achievers. Love the horns and pozzos but this is letting their investment down. Eurotourhorn
  • Score: -3

1:00am Mon 24 Mar 14

Poppet Bear says...

Nothing changes, mid table with Zola and still mid table with Sannino. Bad at home with one and bad away with the other. Need an English Goalkeeper who comes off his line and catches crosses. Not flap at them or punch . Plus an attacking midfield player and a Striker. That's all folks !!!
Nothing changes, mid table with Zola and still mid table with Sannino. Bad at home with one and bad away with the other. Need an English Goalkeeper who comes off his line and catches crosses. Not flap at them or punch . Plus an attacking midfield player and a Striker. That's all folks !!! Poppet Bear
  • Score: -1

8:14am Mon 24 Mar 14

SAHornet says...

Need GZ back with a supporting, british 2nd in command who is defensively sound - a Malky/Dychey type figure. That to me would be dreamteam.......not gonna happen is it?
Need GZ back with a supporting, british 2nd in command who is defensively sound - a Malky/Dychey type figure. That to me would be dreamteam.......not gonna happen is it? SAHornet
  • Score: 3

12:59pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Kismet110 says...

I watched the game via a stream and some things were very apparent:

Great goal by McGugan;

Wigan are a VERY good side, if they'd got Rosler in earlier I think they would be top of this League;

For some inexplicable reason our defending away from home is the exact opposite to home;

We lacked leadership and passion on the pitch.

The last of the above is inexcusable. Sannino can't do anything about superior teams, defensive mistakes or key players being injured but he can pick an on-field captain and the players can at least show some passion and desire.

But why praise and gush about O'Nien last week only for him not even to be on the bench this week when that accident in waiting is?!?

And how any sane person pick the slow, mistake prone Belkalem ahead of Doyley, Ekstrand or Hoban?!? If you wanted to see him play then bring him on, not start him.

I'm glad he got us out of trouble and will be always grateful but really don't think he is the man to take us forward unless he takes on an able assistant at the very least.

Get rid of Nani. Get rid of the slackers and misfits. Keep the key players and do what it takes to retain Toszer. Add at least 3 or 4 key players and start again.

One last thing. The support from the 800 Watford fans their was excellent; loud and continuous even after we went behind - shame some of the players don't put the same effort in.
I watched the game via a stream and some things were very apparent: Great goal by McGugan; Wigan are a VERY good side, if they'd got Rosler in earlier I think they would be top of this League; For some inexplicable reason our defending away from home is the exact opposite to home; We lacked leadership and passion on the pitch. The last of the above is inexcusable. Sannino can't do anything about superior teams, defensive mistakes or key players being injured but he can pick an on-field captain and the players can at least show some passion and desire. But why praise and gush about O'Nien last week only for him not even to be on the bench this week when that accident in waiting is?!? And how any sane person pick the slow, mistake prone Belkalem ahead of Doyley, Ekstrand or Hoban?!? If you wanted to see him play then bring him on, not start him. I'm glad he got us out of trouble and will be always grateful but really don't think he is the man to take us forward unless he takes on an able assistant at the very least. Get rid of Nani. Get rid of the slackers and misfits. Keep the key players and do what it takes to retain Toszer. Add at least 3 or 4 key players and start again. One last thing. The support from the 800 Watford fans their was excellent; loud and continuous even after we went behind - shame some of the players don't put the same effort in. Kismet110
  • Score: 2

1:22pm Mon 24 Mar 14

bigdave8 says...

Albert Riera to be Watfords first summer signing?? He has just signed for Udinese but will go to Watford or Granada
Albert Riera to be Watfords first summer signing?? He has just signed for Udinese but will go to Watford or Granada bigdave8
  • Score: 0

8:57am Tue 25 Mar 14

Harry's Bar says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
29April1975WasBottom wrote:
Just back and well p***ed, but also realistic. Sannino's contract is till end of season with option for 12-month extension but I can't see that happening. I'm also hearing from a couple sources close to club (but would like others to confirm if they've heard too) that Duxbury is recommending Pozzos move Nani on in May. That could at least mean a more aggressive approach to bringing in a quality striker (perhaps even getting Vydra back for the last 12 months of his Udinese contract term) and a playmaker to replace Abdi for whom genuine concerns exist about his long term prospects. Anyway, as always, #COYH!!
The main thing with Vydra is giving him a reason to sign a new deal. If he sees out his days at Watford much as I would love it, he will be another Bosman with a nominal compensation for being under 24.
I'm sure Vydra extended his contract with the Pozzo's as part of the agreement to let him join West Brom on loan.
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]29April1975WasBottom[/bold] wrote: Just back and well p***ed, but also realistic. Sannino's contract is till end of season with option for 12-month extension but I can't see that happening. I'm also hearing from a couple sources close to club (but would like others to confirm if they've heard too) that Duxbury is recommending Pozzos move Nani on in May. That could at least mean a more aggressive approach to bringing in a quality striker (perhaps even getting Vydra back for the last 12 months of his Udinese contract term) and a playmaker to replace Abdi for whom genuine concerns exist about his long term prospects. Anyway, as always, #COYH!![/p][/quote]The main thing with Vydra is giving him a reason to sign a new deal. If he sees out his days at Watford much as I would love it, he will be another Bosman with a nominal compensation for being under 24.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Vydra extended his contract with the Pozzo's as part of the agreement to let him join West Brom on loan. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 1

11:04am Tue 25 Mar 14

Boosey says...

bigdave8 wrote:
Albert Riera to be Watfords first summer signing?? He has just signed for Udinese but will go to Watford or Granada
Rumour With Toszer and Vydra?
[quote][p][bold]bigdave8[/bold] wrote: Albert Riera to be Watfords first summer signing?? He has just signed for Udinese but will go to Watford or Granada[/p][/quote]Rumour With Toszer and Vydra? Boosey
  • Score: 0

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