Beppe Sannino admits those associated with Watford deserve better

Beppe Sannino apologised after the Hornets were unable to apply pressure on the Championship's top six. Picture: Action Images

Beppe Sannino apologised after the Hornets were unable to apply pressure on the Championship's top six. Picture: Action Images

First published in Sport Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Deputy Group Sports Editor

Beppe Sannino admitted everyone associated with Watford deserves more when it comes to the club’s performances and league position.

The head coach also acknowledged the Hornets’ failure to close out the win against Blackburn Rovers following an injury-time goal was a reflection of the Hornets’ season as a whole.

The Golden Boys conceded a third and equalising Blackburn goal in the third minute of injury time at Vicarage Road to sacrifice two points and allow Rovers to return home with a 3-3 draw.

Errors from Watford’s defence and goalkeeper contributed to all three goals and the Hornets continually struggled to cope with the aerial threat of Blackburn, and in particular powerful striker Rudy Gestede.

“My disappointment is a lot. In English football and in this division, the last minutes are very important. This is the rule of English football,” Sannino said in English.

In Italian, he continued: “We nearly won this game. But it was not only this game. Since I have joined this club there have been many games where we have dropped points in the last five minutes of the game.

“This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season.”

Watford have conceded late in a host of matches during the current campaign and Sannino was asked if he knew why that was the case.

Speaking in English initially, he replied: “I believe their goalkeeper was the assist man of the game. Their [physical] striker was very important.”

In Italian, he added: “They created us a lot of problems with long balls into the box.

“I knew Blackburn could create problems physically in the box and we struggled with this.

“But I am disappointed because a football team should defend differently in the final three minutes of the match and finish the match [with the win].

“I am sure if we finished games ten minutes before then we would be in a different position and higher in the table.

“This is a disappointment for you [the media], for the crowd, for the club, for my players. Because all of you – the people who follow Watford – deserve more than we are giving you in terms of points, in terms of performance and in terms of the table.”

After a couple of outstanding saves early into the contest, Hornets goalkeeper Almunia had a particular poor evening as he continually punched deliveries he arguably should have caught.

Sannino said: “I can’t forget how many times Almunia has been important for us and you have to concede mistakes will be made sometimes and I don’t like to blame one player, it is all the team who win, draw and lose.”

Asked if there was a reason for the punching, with a potential injury mentioned, Sannino replied: “No. I don’t think there was any physical problem [which led to Almunia constantly punching].

“He had treatment after the second goal but he said he was ok to carry on so I don’t think there was a problem.

“When we concede a goal, I know you focus on the last part of the action but for me it is very important to look at where the action starts and maybe we could have disallowed them playing close to the goal.

“When you play against teams who have a very physical striker, you have to stop them putting the ball in the box.

“It was a fantastic game until the final three minutes at the end. I saw a beautiful goal from Cristian Battocchio so the supporters could have been very happy but when they equalised they would be very disappointed.

“I repeat, this game reflects our season perfectly.

“If you see the scores in the league tonight, there are crazy results and we were not able to take advantage of this. So I am sorry.”

Brighton & Hove Albion, Nottingham Forest, Reading and Wigan Athletic – who are competing for a play-off place - all lost tonight.

Victory against Blackburn could have moved Watford within eight points of the top six with a game in hand on most of the teams above them.

Instead Watford’s inability to win away from home since October 5 means they are now ten points away from the play-offs with only nine games remaining.

The Hornets’ play-off hopes have looked all-but over for a few weeks now after failing to win in three away games against teams currently in the bottom eight of the Championship.

When the frustration of failing to apply pressure on the top six was highlighted, following another kind set of results for the Golden Boys, Sannino said: “I can’t disagree with you, that is true.”

- Blackburn manager Gary Bowyer has called on the football authorities to clarify what is a handball after the Hornets were awarded a penalty. Read his comments here.

- Read our match report from the Watford versus Blackburn match here.

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1:30am Wed 26 Mar 14

hornet88 says...

An average season on the pitch. A learning curve for the pozzos. A new east stand. Plans for training ground redevelopment. Financial security. Baz banged up (well as good as) A very small price increase for next years season tickets. another year in the championship. I don't honestly think we deserve much more. I love Watford fc but I don't see what we deserve that we haven't got this season? Just think of it as an investment for next seasons success on the pitch :-)
An average season on the pitch. A learning curve for the pozzos. A new east stand. Plans for training ground redevelopment. Financial security. Baz banged up (well as good as) A very small price increase for next years season tickets. another year in the championship. I don't honestly think we deserve much more. I love Watford fc but I don't see what we deserve that we haven't got this season? Just think of it as an investment for next seasons success on the pitch :-) hornet88
  • Score: 58

5:47am Wed 26 Mar 14

Meadey39 says...

hornet88 wrote:
An average season on the pitch. A learning curve for the pozzos. A new east stand. Plans for training ground redevelopment. Financial security. Baz banged up (well as good as) A very small price increase for next years season tickets. another year in the championship. I don't honestly think we deserve much more. I love Watford fc but I don't see what we deserve that we haven't got this season? Just think of it as an investment for next seasons success on the pitch :-)
We just have not performed this season, on and off the pitch. We don't need another pre season of massive change, bring in quality not quantity.
[quote][p][bold]hornet88[/bold] wrote: An average season on the pitch. A learning curve for the pozzos. A new east stand. Plans for training ground redevelopment. Financial security. Baz banged up (well as good as) A very small price increase for next years season tickets. another year in the championship. I don't honestly think we deserve much more. I love Watford fc but I don't see what we deserve that we haven't got this season? Just think of it as an investment for next seasons success on the pitch :-)[/p][/quote]We just have not performed this season, on and off the pitch. We don't need another pre season of massive change, bring in quality not quantity. Meadey39
  • Score: 13

7:01am Wed 26 Mar 14

endean2 says...

the recruitment policy we have..............if there is actually one
is very badly flawed, no lets be honest here, its utter CR** and there
lies the root of so many of our problems.
As stated were probably were we should be in the league and of the pitch
there have been a lot of positives so, he ho on we go on our merry way.
the recruitment policy we have..............if there is actually one is very badly flawed, no lets be honest here, its utter CR** and there lies the root of so many of our problems. As stated were probably were we should be in the league and of the pitch there have been a lot of positives so, he ho on we go on our merry way. endean2
  • Score: -14

9:09am Wed 26 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

Please no more talk of reaching the "Play Offs". The season is over. Last night was good entertainment. Blackburn is a typical Championship team - some good skills but strong physical presence. We are too easily out-muscled (other than Deeney). We will continue to struggle until we match the physical strengths of our Championship competitors. We need steel, not recklessness, in defence and midfield.
Please no more talk of reaching the "Play Offs". The season is over. Last night was good entertainment. Blackburn is a typical Championship team - some good skills but strong physical presence. We are too easily out-muscled (other than Deeney). We will continue to struggle until we match the physical strengths of our Championship competitors. We need steel, not recklessness, in defence and midfield. Hornankey
  • Score: 19

9:12am Wed 26 Mar 14

downunderorn says...

I like Beppe and sincerely hope he continues as manager so we can bring some continuity and stability to the club and prosper next year, albeit with some new signings. I am amazed at the turnover of players these days, everywhere I look there is an ex Watford player.
Where would we be if we had kept JE,CF,DG,BA,MS and Buckley, to name but a few, plus SD?? We received peanuts for all of them??
Please, no more 90+ concedes!! WUID
I like Beppe and sincerely hope he continues as manager so we can bring some continuity and stability to the club and prosper next year, albeit with some new signings. I am amazed at the turnover of players these days, everywhere I look there is an ex Watford player. Where would we be if we had kept JE,CF,DG,BA,MS and Buckley, to name but a few, plus SD?? We received peanuts for all of them?? Please, no more 90+ concedes!! WUID downunderorn
  • Score: -4

10:15am Wed 26 Mar 14

corbindallas says...

Is now the time for an autopsy? Think it is clear that Beppe has been a needed change, is he the man for long term..... time will tell to early still although do like his no nonsense hands up approach which Zola shared, still cannot get over the fact Dyche should have had a chance but then we had a fantastic if frustrating first season with Zola and in truth guess that has set us up to expect instant success which was never the original football plan. We are still a developing club and need to get a more stable first team and back up squad and we have not done that over the 2 seasons yet with the Pozzo's although hearing what Duxbury said looks like they have a better idea of core players and key needs. Realistically I think we still need another season before we are ready for Prem football, otherwise we will be little old Watford who yo yo if we do go up and I don't think anyone wants that long term?! Position wise for me 2 key positions are a new first choice keeper and striker and to keep hold of Toszer and Merkel.
Is now the time for an autopsy? Think it is clear that Beppe has been a needed change, is he the man for long term..... time will tell to early still although do like his no nonsense hands up approach which Zola shared, still cannot get over the fact Dyche should have had a chance but then we had a fantastic if frustrating first season with Zola and in truth guess that has set us up to expect instant success which was never the original football plan. We are still a developing club and need to get a more stable first team and back up squad and we have not done that over the 2 seasons yet with the Pozzo's although hearing what Duxbury said looks like they have a better idea of core players and key needs. Realistically I think we still need another season before we are ready for Prem football, otherwise we will be little old Watford who yo yo if we do go up and I don't think anyone wants that long term?! Position wise for me 2 key positions are a new first choice keeper and striker and to keep hold of Toszer and Merkel. corbindallas
  • Score: 9

10:53am Wed 26 Mar 14

1watford says...

My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_ 1watford
  • Score: -6

11:17am Wed 26 Mar 14

Harry's Bar says...

corbindallas wrote:
Is now the time for an autopsy? Think it is clear that Beppe has been a needed change, is he the man for long term..... time will tell to early still although do like his no nonsense hands up approach which Zola shared, still cannot get over the fact Dyche should have had a chance but then we had a fantastic if frustrating first season with Zola and in truth guess that has set us up to expect instant success which was never the original football plan. We are still a developing club and need to get a more stable first team and back up squad and we have not done that over the 2 seasons yet with the Pozzo's although hearing what Duxbury said looks like they have a better idea of core players and key needs. Realistically I think we still need another season before we are ready for Prem football, otherwise we will be little old Watford who yo yo if we do go up and I don't think anyone wants that long term?! Position wise for me 2 key positions are a new first choice keeper and striker and to keep hold of Toszer and Merkel.
Agreed about the key positions and Tozser but If we are going to persist with 3-5-2 I think we need to look at the wing backs. Pudil has improved recently but I don't think he's a natural at crossing, he's certainly no John Barnes. Faraoni isn't suited to this division. Maybe Riera will come over and be the answer on the left.
[quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: Is now the time for an autopsy? Think it is clear that Beppe has been a needed change, is he the man for long term..... time will tell to early still although do like his no nonsense hands up approach which Zola shared, still cannot get over the fact Dyche should have had a chance but then we had a fantastic if frustrating first season with Zola and in truth guess that has set us up to expect instant success which was never the original football plan. We are still a developing club and need to get a more stable first team and back up squad and we have not done that over the 2 seasons yet with the Pozzo's although hearing what Duxbury said looks like they have a better idea of core players and key needs. Realistically I think we still need another season before we are ready for Prem football, otherwise we will be little old Watford who yo yo if we do go up and I don't think anyone wants that long term?! Position wise for me 2 key positions are a new first choice keeper and striker and to keep hold of Toszer and Merkel.[/p][/quote]Agreed about the key positions and Tozser but If we are going to persist with 3-5-2 I think we need to look at the wing backs. Pudil has improved recently but I don't think he's a natural at crossing, he's certainly no John Barnes. Faraoni isn't suited to this division. Maybe Riera will come over and be the answer on the left. Harry's Bar
  • Score: -1

11:40am Wed 26 Mar 14

grahamwfc says...

1watford wrote:
My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies.
McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated.
In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****.
I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.
[quote][p][bold]1watford[/bold] wrote: My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_[/p][/quote]Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies. McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated. In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****. I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season. grahamwfc
  • Score: 4

11:55am Wed 26 Mar 14

neilhorn says...

grahamwfc wrote:
1watford wrote:
My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies.
McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated.
In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****.
I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.
god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands....
[quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1watford[/bold] wrote: My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_[/p][/quote]Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies. McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated. In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****. I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.[/p][/quote]god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands.... neilhorn
  • Score: 8

11:56am Wed 26 Mar 14

Poppet Bear says...

IMHO a big reason we keep conceding last minute goals are all these substitutions that happen during the last section of a game. Apart from injuries, tactical changes should happen at half time. All this disruption happens in the last 10/15 mins, players need to adjust to the game, gaps appear and last minute goals happen. Plus every substitution carries a minute extra playing time. Just a thought !!!!
IMHO a big reason we keep conceding last minute goals are all these substitutions that happen during the last section of a game. Apart from injuries, tactical changes should happen at half time. All this disruption happens in the last 10/15 mins, players need to adjust to the game, gaps appear and last minute goals happen. Plus every substitution carries a minute extra playing time. Just a thought !!!! Poppet Bear
  • Score: 0

12:32pm Wed 26 Mar 14

grahamwfc says...

neilhorn wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
1watford wrote:
My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies.
McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated.
In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****.
I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.
god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands....
Neil, so you would be happy to have a player back that didn't want to play for us and had one good game after the 2-2 home draw against palace. His spitting the dummy didn't help our season then and I don't want to see it happen again. If he wants to show some commitment and put pen to paper on a three year contract I might come around. Personally I'd rather see a youngster given his chance. Disruption is the ONE thing we have had enough of. Stability, commitment, stability.
[quote][p][bold]neilhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1watford[/bold] wrote: My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_[/p][/quote]Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies. McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated. In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****. I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.[/p][/quote]god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands....[/p][/quote]Neil, so you would be happy to have a player back that didn't want to play for us and had one good game after the 2-2 home draw against palace. His spitting the dummy didn't help our season then and I don't want to see it happen again. If he wants to show some commitment and put pen to paper on a three year contract I might come around. Personally I'd rather see a youngster given his chance. Disruption is the ONE thing we have had enough of. Stability, commitment, stability. grahamwfc
  • Score: 1

12:41pm Wed 26 Mar 14

buckler says...

1watford wrote:
My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
Who cares what you make of the squad and who you would get rid of ! Almost like some kid writing his favourite players at break time.. What do you know about anything ?
[quote][p][bold]1watford[/bold] wrote: My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_[/p][/quote]Who cares what you make of the squad and who you would get rid of ! Almost like some kid writing his favourite players at break time.. What do you know about anything ? buckler
  • Score: 8

1:44pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Hornankey says...

1watford wrote:
My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
It seems that you advocate little change to the squad? Therefore we can expect similar performances and a similar mid-table season. Without doubt some of the players will develop and the team will work better as a unit. However, I think we will need to be much more adventurous if we want to progress. We certainly need some Championship-hardene
d professionals to bolster our physical presence. We should make good use of the rest of the season to plan thoroughly for next - test/ weed out all of the fringe players and blood some youngsters. We might find some surprises. It's a great opportunity as there is now nothing to gain or lose.
[quote][p][bold]1watford[/bold] wrote: My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_[/p][/quote]It seems that you advocate little change to the squad? Therefore we can expect similar performances and a similar mid-table season. Without doubt some of the players will develop and the team will work better as a unit. However, I think we will need to be much more adventurous if we want to progress. We certainly need some Championship-hardene d professionals to bolster our physical presence. We should make good use of the rest of the season to plan thoroughly for next - test/ weed out all of the fringe players and blood some youngsters. We might find some surprises. It's a great opportunity as there is now nothing to gain or lose. Hornankey
  • Score: 6

1:51pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Hairy Hornet says...

Simply, we need a settled back 3 or 4. Angella is playing with different partners each week. It doesn't work. Hoban had a poor game last night but he should be OK with more games under his belt. Ekstrand loses concentration and is vastly overated, and not dominant. Need to find another Jay Demerit. Current crop (defence) are not good enough to make an impact in the championship.
Battochio's effort goal of the season for me, Fantastic composure and pace under pressure. Great take on the run and well worked to him.
Simply, we need a settled back 3 or 4. Angella is playing with different partners each week. It doesn't work. Hoban had a poor game last night but he should be OK with more games under his belt. Ekstrand loses concentration and is vastly overated, and not dominant. Need to find another Jay Demerit. Current crop (defence) are not good enough to make an impact in the championship. Battochio's effort goal of the season for me, Fantastic composure and pace under pressure. Great take on the run and well worked to him. Hairy Hornet
  • Score: 3

1:52pm Wed 26 Mar 14

neilhorn says...

grahamwfc wrote:
neilhorn wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
1watford wrote:
My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies.
McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated.
In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****.
I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.
god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands....
Neil, so you would be happy to have a player back that didn't want to play for us and had one good game after the 2-2 home draw against palace. His spitting the dummy didn't help our season then and I don't want to see it happen again. If he wants to show some commitment and put pen to paper on a three year contract I might come around. Personally I'd rather see a youngster given his chance. Disruption is the ONE thing we have had enough of. Stability, commitment, stability.
he's got talent though Graham. Let's be honest they play for themselves really anyway. Sure he had a dip in form, but its just conjecture that it was because he didn't want to play for us anymore, all players haves dips in form, and if he had carried on like he was he'd have scored 50 goals, he's good but not that good.
So yes, I'd have him, because when it comes down to it, the better the players, the more chance you have of winning
[quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neilhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1watford[/bold] wrote: My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_[/p][/quote]Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies. McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated. In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****. I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.[/p][/quote]god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands....[/p][/quote]Neil, so you would be happy to have a player back that didn't want to play for us and had one good game after the 2-2 home draw against palace. His spitting the dummy didn't help our season then and I don't want to see it happen again. If he wants to show some commitment and put pen to paper on a three year contract I might come around. Personally I'd rather see a youngster given his chance. Disruption is the ONE thing we have had enough of. Stability, commitment, stability.[/p][/quote]he's got talent though Graham. Let's be honest they play for themselves really anyway. Sure he had a dip in form, but its just conjecture that it was because he didn't want to play for us anymore, all players haves dips in form, and if he had carried on like he was he'd have scored 50 goals, he's good but not that good. So yes, I'd have him, because when it comes down to it, the better the players, the more chance you have of winning neilhorn
  • Score: 2

2:59pm Wed 26 Mar 14

soulfulhornet says...

I would have Vydra back if..

1) he wants to come back.
2) he is fully fit - a huge concern given his history at Udinese, ourselves and WBA.
3) our manager wants him.

Whatever the reason for Vydra not wanting to return to WFC, he did not say he would not play for us directly only that after one good 2/3 season he wanted to test himself in the Premier League or in the Bundesliga i.e at the top level. As we were not promoted that ruled us out. Had we beaten Palace he would have signed most probably and on a permanent basis like the other successes from 2012/13.

Some blame his agent, but the agent only does what he is instructed by the player even though he may influence that instruction. I guess with the injuries, Vydra believes he is not best suited to the rigours of the Championship. He may have a shortish career as a result of the injury probs, so can you blame him for following his dream as quickly as the opportunity arose ?
I would have Vydra back if.. 1) he wants to come back. 2) he is fully fit - a huge concern given his history at Udinese, ourselves and WBA. 3) our manager wants him. Whatever the reason for Vydra not wanting to return to WFC, he did not say he would not play for us directly only that after one good 2/3 season he wanted to test himself in the Premier League or in the Bundesliga i.e at the top level. As we were not promoted that ruled us out. Had we beaten Palace he would have signed most probably and on a permanent basis like the other successes from 2012/13. Some blame his agent, but the agent only does what he is instructed by the player even though he may influence that instruction. I guess with the injuries, Vydra believes he is not best suited to the rigours of the Championship. He may have a shortish career as a result of the injury probs, so can you blame him for following his dream as quickly as the opportunity arose ? soulfulhornet
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Wed 26 Mar 14

grahamwfc says...

neilhorn wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
1watford wrote:
My view is the following and I think it would be shared

Off the pitch - very happy

GK
New Number 1
Almunia Sub
Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward

Defence
Hoban
Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad)
Angella
Doyley
Ekstand (back up)
Plus one more for starting 11

Wing back
Anya
Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot)
Faraoni (needs to progress)

Midfield
Murray
Merkal
Abdi
Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period)
Battochio

Forwards
Forestieri
Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him)
Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses)
Ranegie (still 50/50)

Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans

Keep on the books
Woods - is good back up
O’Nien - future

Everyone else…… goodbye
Nosworthy
Jenkins
Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight)
Ireney
Hall
Niell
Belkaham
McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_
Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies.
McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated.
In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****.
I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.
god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands....
You are missing the point Neil
[quote][p][bold]neilhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]1watford[/bold] wrote: My view is the following and I think it would be shared Off the pitch - very happy GK New Number 1 Almunia Sub Bond (loan for a year to League One and see if he develops further) then our Number 1 going forward Defence Hoban Cassetti (keep for a year, good for squad) Angella Doyley Ekstand (back up) Plus one more for starting 11 Wing back Anya Pudil (needs to learn how to use his right foot) Faraoni (needs to progress) Midfield Murray Merkal Abdi Tozser (we would need to offer a lengthy contract at Av wage as he will be on a packet in Italy but 2yrs left on his contract so he may opt for security over a longer period) Battochio Forwards Forestieri Deeney (hope he doesn’t go for the money of the prem – cant blame him) Vydra (everyone hates it said but pozzo/vydra needs to smell the roses) Ranegie (still 50/50) Good size close knit '1st team squad' for next year and keeping together what will work when fit without changing huge numbers/loans Keep on the books Woods - is good back up O’Nien - future Everyone else…… goodbye Nosworthy Jenkins Fabbrini (unless he put on 5st in weight) Ireney Hall Niell Belkaham McGugan (sorry but no) unless he shows me something different till the end of the season (plus we have better in the 5 above_[/p][/quote]Well I don't agree for one. Bond should get a run until the end of the season to show his true worth. How can you judge a player who gets the odd game. If you think Almuniah will stay as #2 you are out with the fairies. McGugan has to stay, a flawed genius but in a team playing with confidence going forward he is an asset. Murray and Batticchio need to show more. I don't give a **** about Pudil's right foot, his commitment and ability will do fine. You seem happy to keep Lloyd and I would bet that DP's right is better than Lloyds left. In fact I would bet Pudil's right is better than Lloyd's right too. Nothing against Lloyd as he has been a great servant, but your argument is flawed for reasons stated. In your team who is the cover for Troy as you are 50/50 on Ranegie. One aspect sadly missing this season and had Troy got injured we would have been in deep ****. I cannot see Vydra coming back but I guess you can dream. Personally if we weren't good enough for him this season not sure why we should fall over to have him back. If he knocks in 20 goals before Christmas he will want away AGAIN and we will be faced with same problem as last season.[/p][/quote]god yes Graham, the last thing we want is a 20 goal before xmas striker on our hands....[/p][/quote]You are missing the point Neil grahamwfc
  • Score: 1

7:31pm Wed 26 Mar 14

1234566789 says...

downunderorn wrote:
I like Beppe and sincerely hope he continues as manager so we can bring some continuity and stability to the club and prosper next year, albeit with some new signings. I am amazed at the turnover of players these days, everywhere I look there is an ex Watford player.
Where would we be if we had kept JE,CF,DG,BA,MS and Buckley, to name but a few, plus SD?? We received peanuts for all of them??
Please, no more 90+ concedes!! WUID
In administration probably
[quote][p][bold]downunderorn[/bold] wrote: I like Beppe and sincerely hope he continues as manager so we can bring some continuity and stability to the club and prosper next year, albeit with some new signings. I am amazed at the turnover of players these days, everywhere I look there is an ex Watford player. Where would we be if we had kept JE,CF,DG,BA,MS and Buckley, to name but a few, plus SD?? We received peanuts for all of them?? Please, no more 90+ concedes!! WUID[/p][/quote]In administration probably 1234566789
  • Score: 3

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