Watford head coach Beppe Sannino reflects on another late goal conceded

Frustrated again: Beppe Sannino. Picture: Holly Cant

Frustrated again: Beppe Sannino. Picture: Holly Cant

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Beppe Sannino’s assessment of Watford’s 1-1 draw against Burnley this afternoon had a familiar ring to it.

That was hardly surprising as the game followed a script that has been seen with increasing frequency this season: the Hornets take the lead only to let points slip by conceding a late equaliser.

Troy Deeney’s fine early strike looked set to give his the three points against the promotion-chasing Clarets but they were made to regret their inability to net a second goal when Scott Arfield levelled four minutes from the end of normal time.

“If you saw the match, in my opinion the answer is yes,” he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.

“When we had the chance to kill the game and score the second goal we should score and now maybe we could smile and Watford people could have a different evening.”

Despite the disappointment of conceding late on, Sannino was pleased with his side’s display. He said: “Considering the team that we were facing I’m very pleased about the performance. I did count 12 chances to score, including the goal that we scored, so I think the team did what I was asking them to do and if you see the celebration of Burnley when they equalised you can see how they were battling for this goal and how they were happy because maybe they didn’t imagine they’d equalise.”

  • Click here to read former Watford manager Sean Dyche's thoughts on the draw.
  • For the match report from today's game, click here.

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7:05pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Scothorn says...

Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable. Scothorn
  • Score: 10

7:16pm Sat 5 Apr 14

grahamwfc says...

Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.
I would say from that he certainly realises............
....................
... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won
We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.
[quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do. I would say from that he certainly realises............ .................... ... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back. grahamwfc
  • Score: 12

7:42pm Sat 5 Apr 14

1970 horn says...

Is it my son and I that feel this frustration could go on and on ? even into next season, the club is in a better position we all agree but, have with out Eustace, Forsyth, Assambolonga, Noseworthy the team got better ??? I do feel that we need to keep the British grit of Deeny, Hoban and Murry let's hope we don't let any of these go in the summer !!
Is it my son and I that feel this frustration could go on and on ? even into next season, the club is in a better position we all agree but, have with out Eustace, Forsyth, Assambolonga, Noseworthy the team got better ??? I do feel that we need to keep the British grit of Deeny, Hoban and Murry let's hope we don't let any of these go in the summer !! 1970 horn
  • Score: -15

7:48pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Man from Pinner says...

Probably not helped by not having a quality striker on the bench. When Renagie went off I would liked to have seen another striker to replace him who could hold the ball up in the opponents end of the pitch.Instead Faroani replaced Renagis and Anya went up top. Fine if you are chasing a goal but not the best at retaining possession. Even then Anya could and should have won it for us!
Even so to have the best of a team destined for the premiership is very acceptable to me.
Probably not helped by not having a quality striker on the bench. When Renagie went off I would liked to have seen another striker to replace him who could hold the ball up in the opponents end of the pitch.Instead Faroani replaced Renagis and Anya went up top. Fine if you are chasing a goal but not the best at retaining possession. Even then Anya could and should have won it for us! Even so to have the best of a team destined for the premiership is very acceptable to me. Man from Pinner
  • Score: 8

8:02pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Hornankey says...

Beppe, don't you realise it's your tactics that are gifting late goals? Yet again, we played too deep in the second half. All around me in the stadium were expecting Burnley to score when we sat deep - are you the only one who did not see it coming? And why take off Ranegie when he was giving their defence a tough time? You must realise by now that we are not equipped physically or mentally to defend slender leads. Deeney worked his socks off again and looked thoroughly fed up at the end - little surprise.
Beppe, don't you realise it's your tactics that are gifting late goals? Yet again, we played too deep in the second half. All around me in the stadium were expecting Burnley to score when we sat deep - are you the only one who did not see it coming? And why take off Ranegie when he was giving their defence a tough time? You must realise by now that we are not equipped physically or mentally to defend slender leads. Deeney worked his socks off again and looked thoroughly fed up at the end - little surprise. Hornankey
  • Score: 16

8:46pm Sat 5 Apr 14

1234566789 says...

Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
11 - we would be in the play-offs if we could hold onto results. Even just the Blackburn and Burnley games and it would be 6 points off with a game in hand. Season over now without doubt and, as Beppe suggests, it is our inability to close out a match that has killed it.
[quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]11 - we would be in the play-offs if we could hold onto results. Even just the Blackburn and Burnley games and it would be 6 points off with a game in hand. Season over now without doubt and, as Beppe suggests, it is our inability to close out a match that has killed it. 1234566789
  • Score: 18

9:13pm Sat 5 Apr 14

exeterhornet says...

I confess I was not there today. Don't care if we were sitting back or not, unlucky or not, this conceding of late goals seems to be part of our history - it goes back way beyond Zola I am sure. IF ONLY we could grow a pair we could cruise this league. Please Beppe, whatever it takes, just give us the ability to see a game out, next season , if not this.
I confess I was not there today. Don't care if we were sitting back or not, unlucky or not, this conceding of late goals seems to be part of our history - it goes back way beyond Zola I am sure. IF ONLY we could grow a pair we could cruise this league. Please Beppe, whatever it takes, just give us the ability to see a game out, next season , if not this. exeterhornet
  • Score: 10

10:39pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Wimborne Hornet says...

That was the grittiest, hard working, battling display of the season, right up to the moment we conceded.
That was the grittiest, hard working, battling display of the season, right up to the moment we conceded. Wimborne Hornet
  • Score: 8

11:37pm Sat 5 Apr 14

LoveKeithDublin says...

grahamwfc wrote:
Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.
I would say from that he certainly realises............

....................

... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won
We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.
'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.
[quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do. I would say from that he certainly realises............ .................... ... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.[/p][/quote]'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back. LoveKeithDublin
  • Score: 7

11:49pm Sat 5 Apr 14

rogeruk says...

Bottom line is Dyche’s without 5 regular players and 2 of his star forwards, outfought, outwitted and outrun Watford. Dyche's tactics were far better than Sannino's. Burnley could have won it with a late header and Almunia well beaten..

Since Anya has been called up for Scotland, he has gone right off the boil, he was clean through on goal with nobody to beat and simply blast it over the line, his shot from a few yards was pathetic, the Burnley forward had time to drink a cup of tea before kicking it off the line.

I hope this is Almunia's last season he should have easily saved the shot into the corner, I am sure his nervousness rubs off on defenders.

Worst of all, Watford's build up was slow in the second half, giving time for Burnley to get men behind the ball, Burnley look like a synchronized team, Watford don't on today's performance.

Why do Watford defend so deep at home? It’s asking for trouble and it always comes. This is something Sannino can change but he doesn’t. The problems are deep rooted, I honestly don't see an improvement next season with these tactics and players.

Finally, after losing the goal and almost the game in the last ten minutes, I would like to see Sannino look angry and pis**d off but he doesn't, he can't wait to shake everybody's hand like a politician on a press the flesh exercise with that permanent smirk smile.
Bottom line is Dyche’s without 5 regular players and 2 of his star forwards, outfought, outwitted and outrun Watford. Dyche's tactics were far better than Sannino's. Burnley could have won it with a late header and Almunia well beaten.. Since Anya has been called up for Scotland, he has gone right off the boil, he was clean through on goal with nobody to beat and simply blast it over the line, his shot from a few yards was pathetic, the Burnley forward had time to drink a cup of tea before kicking it off the line. I hope this is Almunia's last season he should have easily saved the shot into the corner, I am sure his nervousness rubs off on defenders. Worst of all, Watford's build up was slow in the second half, giving time for Burnley to get men behind the ball, Burnley look like a synchronized team, Watford don't on today's performance. Why do Watford defend so deep at home? It’s asking for trouble and it always comes. This is something Sannino can change but he doesn’t. The problems are deep rooted, I honestly don't see an improvement next season with these tactics and players. Finally, after losing the goal and almost the game in the last ten minutes, I would like to see Sannino look angry and pis**d off but he doesn't, he can't wait to shake everybody's hand like a politician on a press the flesh exercise with that permanent smirk smile. rogeruk
  • Score: -19

6:13am Sun 6 Apr 14

lutondown says...

LoveKeithDublin wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.
I would say from that he certainly realises............


....................


... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won
We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.
'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.
exactly
[quote][p][bold]LoveKeithDublin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do. I would say from that he certainly realises............ .................... ... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.[/p][/quote]'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.[/p][/quote]exactly lutondown
  • Score: 1

6:13am Sun 6 Apr 14

lutondown says...

LoveKeithDublin wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.
I would say from that he certainly realises............


....................


... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won
We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.
'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.
exactly
[quote][p][bold]LoveKeithDublin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do. I would say from that he certainly realises............ .................... ... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.[/p][/quote]'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.[/p][/quote]exactly lutondown
  • Score: -1

8:28am Sun 6 Apr 14

endean2 says...

how will we fill the new stand with such poor,mindless displays like this?
I really see little improvement with our on field displays.
how will we fill the new stand with such poor,mindless displays like this? I really see little improvement with our on field displays. endean2
  • Score: -9

9:19am Sun 6 Apr 14

grahamwfc says...

lutondown wrote:
LoveKeithDublin wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.
I would say from that he certainly realises............



....................



... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won
We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.
'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.
exactly
Ranegie went off I'm sure because he had messed up three good opportunities in quick succession, the latest being when we had 6 against 4, failed to make a pass with numerous options and Burnley broke upfield. Benefit of the doubt that he may have been tired. We replaced him with Anya and DF going to wingback, hardly defensive and a different ploy to use Anya's pace against their sluggish back four late in the game. It almost came off when he sprinted to knock the ball around their keeper but unfortunately lost balance and miscues his shot. Had it gone in no one would have been moaning about the substitution and being so fickle would probably have hailed Beppe as a tactical genius.
Try supporting the team or jog off up the M1
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LoveKeithDublin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do. I would say from that he certainly realises............ .................... ... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.[/p][/quote]'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.[/p][/quote]exactly[/p][/quote]Ranegie went off I'm sure because he had messed up three good opportunities in quick succession, the latest being when we had 6 against 4, failed to make a pass with numerous options and Burnley broke upfield. Benefit of the doubt that he may have been tired. We replaced him with Anya and DF going to wingback, hardly defensive and a different ploy to use Anya's pace against their sluggish back four late in the game. It almost came off when he sprinted to knock the ball around their keeper but unfortunately lost balance and miscues his shot. Had it gone in no one would have been moaning about the substitution and being so fickle would probably have hailed Beppe as a tactical genius. Try supporting the team or jog off up the M1 grahamwfc
  • Score: 12

9:21am Sun 6 Apr 14

grahamwfc says...

endean2 wrote:
how will we fill the new stand with such poor,mindless displays like this?
I really see little improvement with our on field displays.
Moron
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: how will we fill the new stand with such poor,mindless displays like this? I really see little improvement with our on field displays.[/p][/quote]Moron grahamwfc
  • Score: -1

9:38am Sun 6 Apr 14

Andrew1963 says...

I really enjoyed the game, entertaining and if that is the standard next season I reckon the crowds will get bigger. If Anya was a better finisher we would have won. Deeney played extremely well. As normal you can point to players who could have played better. I thought Angella was slightly off the boil and Abdi is obviously not fully match fit. Bond will be playing in goal on Tuesday as Almunia will be going down with the flu - he caught everything else yesterday.
I really enjoyed the game, entertaining and if that is the standard next season I reckon the crowds will get bigger. If Anya was a better finisher we would have won. Deeney played extremely well. As normal you can point to players who could have played better. I thought Angella was slightly off the boil and Abdi is obviously not fully match fit. Bond will be playing in goal on Tuesday as Almunia will be going down with the flu - he caught everything else yesterday. Andrew1963
  • Score: 8

10:21am Sun 6 Apr 14

francowatford says...

i thought we held a good line at the back, around 25 rounds from goal but the problem was posession. I thought we looked dangereous when we broke down there play and got the second balls a lot better. I thought Pudil was given a torrid time against Knightly and overall, even though it was 1 1 it was far result. Can't wait for Fessi to come back, great goal clearance from Abdi, this was as a good as a goal
i thought we held a good line at the back, around 25 rounds from goal but the problem was posession. I thought we looked dangereous when we broke down there play and got the second balls a lot better. I thought Pudil was given a torrid time against Knightly and overall, even though it was 1 1 it was far result. Can't wait for Fessi to come back, great goal clearance from Abdi, this was as a good as a goal francowatford
  • Score: 1

10:52am Sun 6 Apr 14

bigthunder says...

Well with season pretty much over now reflecting on this campaign the overriding word i can think of is frustrating so what needs to change

For me as decent as Sanninio has done he is not the man to take us forward he has something but i am afraid i feel he is a "put the fire out " sort of man rather than a builder of teams , he is defensive minded whatever anyone says and we are still not watertight by any means and lack the mentality to shut up shop home and away

We need a new experienced goalkeeper , personally think we need a fresh goalkeeping coach too

We need a couple of strikers pace and that poacher instinct

We need to keep Toser get Abdi fit

We need another option other than 3 at the back all the time , personally sick to the back teeth of it !

We need a Captain a leader an organiser on the field , Toser may have that in him ?

We need somebody who can actually cross a ball particularly if Ranegie is to be around we score very few headed goals

On the positives the East stand will make a difference however just how many fans renew there season tickets after this seasons disappointment will be interesting to see , i have renewed already so putting my money where my mouth is but expecting far more next season and fair to say seeing the East stand built with investment obvious in the club made me renew rather than what i have witnessed on the field , we have excellent owners, the Pozzo's deserve much credit but i am sure realise they now should expect more , Mr Nani's brief on recruitment must be very clear he has in most cases failed this year

Acuna , Irrinney , park , diakite , assombalonga , eustace , fabbrini to name a few who have either failed badly or who should never have been released in the first place

So those late goals have cost us this season , other teams have kicked on Burnley Leicester for instance , Burnley a fine example of what hard work , organisation , leadership and knowing what "managing the game"
is all about and coming from one of our own should not go unnoticed
Malky , Dychie , Brucie , Pearson british managers who know this league and it seems know how to get their teams out of it , over to you Gino ,Scott and Gianluca ther is the blueprint
Well with season pretty much over now reflecting on this campaign the overriding word i can think of is frustrating so what needs to change For me as decent as Sanninio has done he is not the man to take us forward he has something but i am afraid i feel he is a "put the fire out " sort of man rather than a builder of teams , he is defensive minded whatever anyone says and we are still not watertight by any means and lack the mentality to shut up shop home and away We need a new experienced goalkeeper , personally think we need a fresh goalkeeping coach too We need a couple of strikers pace and that poacher instinct We need to keep Toser get Abdi fit We need another option other than 3 at the back all the time , personally sick to the back teeth of it ! We need a Captain a leader an organiser on the field , Toser may have that in him ? We need somebody who can actually cross a ball particularly if Ranegie is to be around we score very few headed goals On the positives the East stand will make a difference however just how many fans renew there season tickets after this seasons disappointment will be interesting to see , i have renewed already so putting my money where my mouth is but expecting far more next season and fair to say seeing the East stand built with investment obvious in the club made me renew rather than what i have witnessed on the field , we have excellent owners, the Pozzo's deserve much credit but i am sure realise they now should expect more , Mr Nani's brief on recruitment must be very clear he has in most cases failed this year Acuna , Irrinney , park , diakite , assombalonga , eustace , fabbrini to name a few who have either failed badly or who should never have been released in the first place So those late goals have cost us this season , other teams have kicked on Burnley Leicester for instance , Burnley a fine example of what hard work , organisation , leadership and knowing what "managing the game" is all about and coming from one of our own should not go unnoticed Malky , Dychie , Brucie , Pearson british managers who know this league and it seems know how to get their teams out of it , over to you Gino ,Scott and Gianluca ther is the blueprint bigthunder
  • Score: 2

11:26am Sun 6 Apr 14

LoveKeithDublin says...

grahamwfc wrote:
lutondown wrote:
LoveKeithDublin wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.
I would say from that he certainly realises............




....................




... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won
We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.
'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.
exactly
Ranegie went off I'm sure because he had messed up three good opportunities in quick succession, the latest being when we had 6 against 4, failed to make a pass with numerous options and Burnley broke upfield. Benefit of the doubt that he may have been tired. We replaced him with Anya and DF going to wingback, hardly defensive and a different ploy to use Anya's pace against their sluggish back four late in the game. It almost came off when he sprinted to knock the ball around their keeper but unfortunately lost balance and miscues his shot. Had it gone in no one would have been moaning about the substitution and being so fickle would probably have hailed Beppe as a tactical genius.
Try supporting the team or jog off up the M1
You make a sound point there GrahamWFC about us almost nicking another goal after Ranagie was taken off.

But then you ruin in with the moronic statement 'try supporting the team or jog off up the M1'.

Pointing out that we have a habit of conceding when we swap attacking players for defensive ones doesn't make us any less supportive that you Graham dear boy!
[quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LoveKeithDublin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do. I would say from that he certainly realises............ .................... ... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.[/p][/quote]'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.[/p][/quote]exactly[/p][/quote]Ranegie went off I'm sure because he had messed up three good opportunities in quick succession, the latest being when we had 6 against 4, failed to make a pass with numerous options and Burnley broke upfield. Benefit of the doubt that he may have been tired. We replaced him with Anya and DF going to wingback, hardly defensive and a different ploy to use Anya's pace against their sluggish back four late in the game. It almost came off when he sprinted to knock the ball around their keeper but unfortunately lost balance and miscues his shot. Had it gone in no one would have been moaning about the substitution and being so fickle would probably have hailed Beppe as a tactical genius. Try supporting the team or jog off up the M1[/p][/quote]You make a sound point there GrahamWFC about us almost nicking another goal after Ranagie was taken off. But then you ruin in with the moronic statement 'try supporting the team or jog off up the M1'. Pointing out that we have a habit of conceding when we swap attacking players for defensive ones doesn't make us any less supportive that you Graham dear boy! LoveKeithDublin
  • Score: 3

11:40am Sun 6 Apr 14

Berko Horn says...

I am disappointed by the result, but to describe it as a 'poor,mindless display' is well wide of the mark. We were in control for most of the game and should have sealed vistory before they scored. Had we finished winning 2-0 or 2-1, no doubt those who see only the result would not have posted.
I thought there were encouraging signs, whilst the inability to get the decisive second or keep a clean sheet clearly need to be addressed. Those suggesting taking off Ranegie for Faraoni was indicative of sitting back also do not understand football. Anya was not having any success on the wing, Ranegie was tiring and the change in shape would have been considered a masterstroke had Anya, using his pace through the middle as was hoped by the substitution, slotted away when he had the golden chance. Lets face it Ranegie would not have reached that ball had he been on. A few feet short of a goal can change people's perceptions seemingly of a game and a manager.
As for sacking Sanino at this stage, I have to wonder what planet people are on. He has stabilised the home form and, but for late lapses, we might now be still in with a chance of a play-offf place.
With a few better additions/retentions to the squad than we had before this season, I think we can definitely push on next season.
I am disappointed by the result, but to describe it as a 'poor,mindless display' is well wide of the mark. We were in control for most of the game and should have sealed vistory before they scored. Had we finished winning 2-0 or 2-1, no doubt those who see only the result would not have posted. I thought there were encouraging signs, whilst the inability to get the decisive second or keep a clean sheet clearly need to be addressed. Those suggesting taking off Ranegie for Faraoni was indicative of sitting back also do not understand football. Anya was not having any success on the wing, Ranegie was tiring and the change in shape would have been considered a masterstroke had Anya, using his pace through the middle as was hoped by the substitution, slotted away when he had the golden chance. Lets face it Ranegie would not have reached that ball had he been on. A few feet short of a goal can change people's perceptions seemingly of a game and a manager. As for sacking Sanino at this stage, I have to wonder what planet people are on. He has stabilised the home form and, but for late lapses, we might now be still in with a chance of a play-offf place. With a few better additions/retentions to the squad than we had before this season, I think we can definitely push on next season. Berko Horn
  • Score: 3

12:05pm Sun 6 Apr 14

tommy gunn says...

Endean 2 How you can make such comments as' poor mindless displays' is beyond me, in an earlier post you didn't even know the score as you thought 'we nearly made a draw' Need I say more.
Endean 2 How you can make such comments as' poor mindless displays' is beyond me, in an earlier post you didn't even know the score as you thought 'we nearly made a draw' Need I say more. tommy gunn
  • Score: 2

1:35pm Sun 6 Apr 14

grahamwfc says...

LoveKeithDublin wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
lutondown wrote:
LoveKeithDublin wrote:
grahamwfc wrote:
Scothorn wrote:
Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.
Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do.
I would say from that he certainly realises............





....................





... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won
We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.
'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.
exactly
Ranegie went off I'm sure because he had messed up three good opportunities in quick succession, the latest being when we had 6 against 4, failed to make a pass with numerous options and Burnley broke upfield. Benefit of the doubt that he may have been tired. We replaced him with Anya and DF going to wingback, hardly defensive and a different ploy to use Anya's pace against their sluggish back four late in the game. It almost came off when he sprinted to knock the ball around their keeper but unfortunately lost balance and miscues his shot. Had it gone in no one would have been moaning about the substitution and being so fickle would probably have hailed Beppe as a tactical genius.
Try supporting the team or jog off up the M1
You make a sound point there GrahamWFC about us almost nicking another goal after Ranagie was taken off.

But then you ruin in with the moronic statement 'try supporting the team or jog off up the M1'.

Pointing out that we have a habit of conceding when we swap attacking players for defensive ones doesn't make us any less supportive that you Graham dear boy!
Do I really have to spell this out to Dublin. You said we replaced Ranegie with a defensive player. WE DID NOT! Anya replaced Ranegie, a very attacking player or DO actually think DF played up front. Learn the game FFS. My moronic ( your description ) statement stands. In fact it seems even more fitting. Far too many fickle people with no understanding of the game. Perhaps Dublin and Endean should start their own little love in forum.
[quote][p][bold]LoveKeithDublin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LoveKeithDublin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scothorn[/bold] wrote: Has Beppe not realised that his team is just not equipped to sit back and see out a game? Week after week its the same old story. How many points have we chucked away in the last 5 mins of matches - unbelievable.[/p][/quote]Did you read the report, quote - he replied when asked if he felt Watford deserved to have won. “This game reflects perfectly Watford’s season. The last ten minutes we always throw away everything we do. I would say from that he certainly realises............ .................... ... And at what point did we sit back FFS, They scored a well taken goal on the break, they are a good solid team who we matched all over the pitch & with a bit of better fortune would have won We are aware of the problem as is Beppe, Please if you have the solution share it with us, but the issue today certainly wasn;t sitting back.[/p][/quote]'And at what point did we sit back FFS' - ehhh well probably when we took a centre forward off for a right wing back.[/p][/quote]exactly[/p][/quote]Ranegie went off I'm sure because he had messed up three good opportunities in quick succession, the latest being when we had 6 against 4, failed to make a pass with numerous options and Burnley broke upfield. Benefit of the doubt that he may have been tired. We replaced him with Anya and DF going to wingback, hardly defensive and a different ploy to use Anya's pace against their sluggish back four late in the game. It almost came off when he sprinted to knock the ball around their keeper but unfortunately lost balance and miscues his shot. Had it gone in no one would have been moaning about the substitution and being so fickle would probably have hailed Beppe as a tactical genius. Try supporting the team or jog off up the M1[/p][/quote]You make a sound point there GrahamWFC about us almost nicking another goal after Ranagie was taken off. But then you ruin in with the moronic statement 'try supporting the team or jog off up the M1'. Pointing out that we have a habit of conceding when we swap attacking players for defensive ones doesn't make us any less supportive that you Graham dear boy![/p][/quote]Do I really have to spell this out to Dublin. You said we replaced Ranegie with a defensive player. WE DID NOT! Anya replaced Ranegie, a very attacking player or DO actually think DF played up front. Learn the game FFS. My moronic ( your description ) statement stands. In fact it seems even more fitting. Far too many fickle people with no understanding of the game. Perhaps Dublin and Endean should start their own little love in forum. grahamwfc
  • Score: 0

3:02pm Sun 6 Apr 14

endean2 says...

tommy gunn wrote:
Endean 2 How you can make such comments as' poor mindless displays' is beyond me, in an earlier post you didn't even know the score as you thought 'we nearly made a draw' Need I say more.
that was a slip of the finger.....should have been" made a win"
it was a sarcastic comment by the way, so as not to confuse you.

so you did not like my comments regards our display,
possibly the standards you are obviously happy with are different to mine
[quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: Endean 2 How you can make such comments as' poor mindless displays' is beyond me, in an earlier post you didn't even know the score as you thought 'we nearly made a draw' Need I say more.[/p][/quote]that was a slip of the finger.....should have been" made a win" it was a sarcastic comment by the way, so as not to confuse you. so you did not like my comments regards our display, possibly the standards you are obviously happy with are different to mine endean2
  • Score: -6

4:38pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Michael Sills says...

Berko Horn,

I agree with everything you have said, at least somebody talks some
sense on here, I thought it was a decent game and a fair result.
One moan, why didn't the police and stewards keep the Burnley fans
in at the end of the game, instead of making the home fans do a
detour by closing off Occupation Road, at the end of the day it is our
ground not theirs.
Berko Horn, I agree with everything you have said, at least somebody talks some sense on here, I thought it was a decent game and a fair result. One moan, why didn't the police and stewards keep the Burnley fans in at the end of the game, instead of making the home fans do a detour by closing off Occupation Road, at the end of the day it is our ground not theirs. Michael Sills
  • Score: 5

8:04pm Sun 6 Apr 14

Abbots hornet says...

Good championship match yesterday really enjoyed it.Congratulations to Burnley they are are a high tempo team even with 4 of their best players missing.So grateful to Pozzos for taking over and the fact that we are not being run by some shady stanmore businessman.Now that they have had 2 championship seasons under their belt I hope they can see what you need to be successful.I think a playing clear out is required as it looks like they have the resources to do it.
For me Beppe is not the answer we need to bite the bullet and get an experienced championship person installed.Pearson,Br
uce,Dyche,Holloway all have been successful.
It pains me a bit but Malky might be the man to do it.I was so annoyed by the way he left but now time has moved on it must have been awful working for Bassini.I know this might not be popular with some but it makes sense to me cos he would know the league inside out ?
On the playing side Nani has not done well this year Vydra not replaced.I think the following should not be here next year
Fabbrini. Totally ineffective. Acuna Not good enough Ekstrand Liability can't head the ball and gives away daft free kicks every game.Faraoni Lightweight and no commitment.Belkalem Bull in a china shop another defensive liability.
Hall sadly can't stay fit.Diakite Send back to QPR asap
Merkel has potential but think not ready for physical side of championship
Almunia getting on a bit Bond not good enough he is like Loach on crosses
Eustace and Assombalonga should never been allowed to leave.Eustace would have been a perfect captain for another season.Sulky goalkeeping Captains are not what is needed
I would keep Angella cos he has pace skill and can head the ball at both ends Cassetti is also worth another season what a player he must have been in his twenties.Toczer is a great player he could be the captain we are missing looks like he cares and talks on the field him and Abdi with Murray as the tackler in midfield could be good
I hope Deeney stays but it wouldn't surprise me as he has had 2 great seasons if a promoted team tripled his money.Burnley for instance will be missing Vokes for a long time and Dyche knows him well.
Fingers crossed but we need a big dose of championship know how next season
Good championship match yesterday really enjoyed it.Congratulations to Burnley they are are a high tempo team even with 4 of their best players missing.So grateful to Pozzos for taking over and the fact that we are not being run by some shady stanmore businessman.Now that they have had 2 championship seasons under their belt I hope they can see what you need to be successful.I think a playing clear out is required as it looks like they have the resources to do it. For me Beppe is not the answer we need to bite the bullet and get an experienced championship person installed.Pearson,Br uce,Dyche,Holloway all have been successful. It pains me a bit but Malky might be the man to do it.I was so annoyed by the way he left but now time has moved on it must have been awful working for Bassini.I know this might not be popular with some but it makes sense to me cos he would know the league inside out ? On the playing side Nani has not done well this year Vydra not replaced.I think the following should not be here next year Fabbrini. Totally ineffective. Acuna Not good enough Ekstrand Liability can't head the ball and gives away daft free kicks every game.Faraoni Lightweight and no commitment.Belkalem Bull in a china shop another defensive liability. Hall sadly can't stay fit.Diakite Send back to QPR asap Merkel has potential but think not ready for physical side of championship Almunia getting on a bit Bond not good enough he is like Loach on crosses Eustace and Assombalonga should never been allowed to leave.Eustace would have been a perfect captain for another season.Sulky goalkeeping Captains are not what is needed I would keep Angella cos he has pace skill and can head the ball at both ends Cassetti is also worth another season what a player he must have been in his twenties.Toczer is a great player he could be the captain we are missing looks like he cares and talks on the field him and Abdi with Murray as the tackler in midfield could be good I hope Deeney stays but it wouldn't surprise me as he has had 2 great seasons if a promoted team tripled his money.Burnley for instance will be missing Vokes for a long time and Dyche knows him well. Fingers crossed but we need a big dose of championship know how next season Abbots hornet
  • Score: 0

8:16pm Sun 6 Apr 14

tommy gunn says...

Endean 2 It just goes to show how our opinions differ, you thought it was a poor mindless display whereas I really enjoyed the game and thought we gave a good account of ourselves against a team most likely to be promoted and we could easily have won this one .May be I'm easily pleased but I have seen far worse over the years.
Endean 2 It just goes to show how our opinions differ, you thought it was a poor mindless display whereas I really enjoyed the game and thought we gave a good account of ourselves against a team most likely to be promoted and we could easily have won this one .May be I'm easily pleased but I have seen far worse over the years. tommy gunn
  • Score: 2

8:59am Mon 7 Apr 14

Harry's Bar says...

Abbots hornet wrote:
Good championship match yesterday really enjoyed it.Congratulations to Burnley they are are a high tempo team even with 4 of their best players missing.So grateful to Pozzos for taking over and the fact that we are not being run by some shady stanmore businessman.Now that they have had 2 championship seasons under their belt I hope they can see what you need to be successful.I think a playing clear out is required as it looks like they have the resources to do it.
For me Beppe is not the answer we need to bite the bullet and get an experienced championship person installed.Pearson,Br

uce,Dyche,Holloway all have been successful.
It pains me a bit but Malky might be the man to do it.I was so annoyed by the way he left but now time has moved on it must have been awful working for Bassini.I know this might not be popular with some but it makes sense to me cos he would know the league inside out ?
On the playing side Nani has not done well this year Vydra not replaced.I think the following should not be here next year
Fabbrini. Totally ineffective. Acuna Not good enough Ekstrand Liability can't head the ball and gives away daft free kicks every game.Faraoni Lightweight and no commitment.Belkalem Bull in a china shop another defensive liability.
Hall sadly can't stay fit.Diakite Send back to QPR asap
Merkel has potential but think not ready for physical side of championship
Almunia getting on a bit Bond not good enough he is like Loach on crosses
Eustace and Assombalonga should never been allowed to leave.Eustace would have been a perfect captain for another season.Sulky goalkeeping Captains are not what is needed
I would keep Angella cos he has pace skill and can head the ball at both ends Cassetti is also worth another season what a player he must have been in his twenties.Toczer is a great player he could be the captain we are missing looks like he cares and talks on the field him and Abdi with Murray as the tackler in midfield could be good
I hope Deeney stays but it wouldn't surprise me as he has had 2 great seasons if a promoted team tripled his money.Burnley for instance will be missing Vokes for a long time and Dyche knows him well.
Fingers crossed but we need a big dose of championship know how next season
The manager position talk is a bit irrelevant now as I'm sure it's already settled that Saninno will stay on for another season. Not sure about Murray as "the tackler" or that Angella has "skill", certainly not in passing, but pretty much agree with everything else.
[quote][p][bold]Abbots hornet[/bold] wrote: Good championship match yesterday really enjoyed it.Congratulations to Burnley they are are a high tempo team even with 4 of their best players missing.So grateful to Pozzos for taking over and the fact that we are not being run by some shady stanmore businessman.Now that they have had 2 championship seasons under their belt I hope they can see what you need to be successful.I think a playing clear out is required as it looks like they have the resources to do it. For me Beppe is not the answer we need to bite the bullet and get an experienced championship person installed.Pearson,Br uce,Dyche,Holloway all have been successful. It pains me a bit but Malky might be the man to do it.I was so annoyed by the way he left but now time has moved on it must have been awful working for Bassini.I know this might not be popular with some but it makes sense to me cos he would know the league inside out ? On the playing side Nani has not done well this year Vydra not replaced.I think the following should not be here next year Fabbrini. Totally ineffective. Acuna Not good enough Ekstrand Liability can't head the ball and gives away daft free kicks every game.Faraoni Lightweight and no commitment.Belkalem Bull in a china shop another defensive liability. Hall sadly can't stay fit.Diakite Send back to QPR asap Merkel has potential but think not ready for physical side of championship Almunia getting on a bit Bond not good enough he is like Loach on crosses Eustace and Assombalonga should never been allowed to leave.Eustace would have been a perfect captain for another season.Sulky goalkeeping Captains are not what is needed I would keep Angella cos he has pace skill and can head the ball at both ends Cassetti is also worth another season what a player he must have been in his twenties.Toczer is a great player he could be the captain we are missing looks like he cares and talks on the field him and Abdi with Murray as the tackler in midfield could be good I hope Deeney stays but it wouldn't surprise me as he has had 2 great seasons if a promoted team tripled his money.Burnley for instance will be missing Vokes for a long time and Dyche knows him well. Fingers crossed but we need a big dose of championship know how next season[/p][/quote]The manager position talk is a bit irrelevant now as I'm sure it's already settled that Saninno will stay on for another season. Not sure about Murray as "the tackler" or that Angella has "skill", certainly not in passing, but pretty much agree with everything else. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 1

9:06am Tue 8 Apr 14

Hairy Hornet says...

Abbots hornet wrote:
Good championship match yesterday really enjoyed it.Congratulations to Burnley they are are a high tempo team even with 4 of their best players missing.So grateful to Pozzos for taking over and the fact that we are not being run by some shady stanmore businessman.Now that they have had 2 championship seasons under their belt I hope they can see what you need to be successful.I think a playing clear out is required as it looks like they have the resources to do it.
For me Beppe is not the answer we need to bite the bullet and get an experienced championship person installed.Pearson,Br

uce,Dyche,Holloway all have been successful.
It pains me a bit but Malky might be the man to do it.I was so annoyed by the way he left but now time has moved on it must have been awful working for Bassini.I know this might not be popular with some but it makes sense to me cos he would know the league inside out ?
On the playing side Nani has not done well this year Vydra not replaced.I think the following should not be here next year
Fabbrini. Totally ineffective. Acuna Not good enough Ekstrand Liability can't head the ball and gives away daft free kicks every game.Faraoni Lightweight and no commitment.Belkalem Bull in a china shop another defensive liability.
Hall sadly can't stay fit.Diakite Send back to QPR asap
Merkel has potential but think not ready for physical side of championship
Almunia getting on a bit Bond not good enough he is like Loach on crosses
Eustace and Assombalonga should never been allowed to leave.Eustace would have been a perfect captain for another season.Sulky goalkeeping Captains are not what is needed
I would keep Angella cos he has pace skill and can head the ball at both ends Cassetti is also worth another season what a player he must have been in his twenties.Toczer is a great player he could be the captain we are missing looks like he cares and talks on the field him and Abdi with Murray as the tackler in midfield could be good
I hope Deeney stays but it wouldn't surprise me as he has had 2 great seasons if a promoted team tripled his money.Burnley for instance will be missing Vokes for a long time and Dyche knows him well.
Fingers crossed but we need a big dose of championship know how next season
Take a breath mate! " Cassetti is also worth another season"!!! You were doing O.K up until that point. He is a disaster. If he gets another season you can forget any thoughts of promotion, unless he gets a non playing role.
[quote][p][bold]Abbots hornet[/bold] wrote: Good championship match yesterday really enjoyed it.Congratulations to Burnley they are are a high tempo team even with 4 of their best players missing.So grateful to Pozzos for taking over and the fact that we are not being run by some shady stanmore businessman.Now that they have had 2 championship seasons under their belt I hope they can see what you need to be successful.I think a playing clear out is required as it looks like they have the resources to do it. For me Beppe is not the answer we need to bite the bullet and get an experienced championship person installed.Pearson,Br uce,Dyche,Holloway all have been successful. It pains me a bit but Malky might be the man to do it.I was so annoyed by the way he left but now time has moved on it must have been awful working for Bassini.I know this might not be popular with some but it makes sense to me cos he would know the league inside out ? On the playing side Nani has not done well this year Vydra not replaced.I think the following should not be here next year Fabbrini. Totally ineffective. Acuna Not good enough Ekstrand Liability can't head the ball and gives away daft free kicks every game.Faraoni Lightweight and no commitment.Belkalem Bull in a china shop another defensive liability. Hall sadly can't stay fit.Diakite Send back to QPR asap Merkel has potential but think not ready for physical side of championship Almunia getting on a bit Bond not good enough he is like Loach on crosses Eustace and Assombalonga should never been allowed to leave.Eustace would have been a perfect captain for another season.Sulky goalkeeping Captains are not what is needed I would keep Angella cos he has pace skill and can head the ball at both ends Cassetti is also worth another season what a player he must have been in his twenties.Toczer is a great player he could be the captain we are missing looks like he cares and talks on the field him and Abdi with Murray as the tackler in midfield could be good I hope Deeney stays but it wouldn't surprise me as he has had 2 great seasons if a promoted team tripled his money.Burnley for instance will be missing Vokes for a long time and Dyche knows him well. Fingers crossed but we need a big dose of championship know how next season[/p][/quote]Take a breath mate! " Cassetti is also worth another season"!!! You were doing O.K up until that point. He is a disaster. If he gets another season you can forget any thoughts of promotion, unless he gets a non playing role. Hairy Hornet
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