Watford's new black and white away kit used to remember players who served in World War One

Watford Observer: Pictured is last season's away kit. The new strip is to be black and white. Picture: Holly Cant Pictured is last season's away kit. The new strip is to be black and white. Picture: Holly Cant

Watford say their new away kit – which will be black and white – will be used to help remember the 12 amateur and professional first-team players who served their country in World War One.

The Hornets will be donating £1 from the sale of each second strip to the Royal British Legion, with adult shirts costing £40 and children’s £30.

It is 100 years since the Great War and it is also a century since Watford wore a black and white shirt for the first time.

The Golden Boys have yet to reveal what the new away kit will look like but could do so as early as tomorrow via their website. The in-store launch will be on Friday, June 20.

The first part of Watford's promotional video for their new away kit can be seen below.

The 12 Watford players who served in the First World War, which took place between 1914 and 1918, were:

  • George Badenoch – Canadian Infantry
  • Harold Bulling – The King’s (Liverpool Regiment)
  • Jimmy Chalmers – Royal Scots Fusiliers
  • Albert Green – Hertfordshire Yeomanry
  • Owen Gregory – Grenadier Guards
  • Ernie Grimsdell – Life Guards
  • Bill Hastings – Royal Flying Corps
  • Bill Markland – Hertfordshire Regiment
  • Robert McGuire – (regiment unknown)
  • Joe McLauchlan – Middlesex Regiment
  • Alex Stewart – Middlesex Regiment
  • Skilly Williams – Norfolk Regiment

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5:37pm Thu 5 Jun 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

Fantastic by the Hortns. Hope more clubs follow suite. I'd happily pay £45 for this if the donation to the RBL was £5. I'll buy more Poppies this year
Fantastic by the Hortns. Hope more clubs follow suite. I'd happily pay £45 for this if the donation to the RBL was £5. I'll buy more Poppies this year PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 30

5:38pm Thu 5 Jun 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Fantastic by the Hortns. Hope more clubs follow suite. I'd happily pay £45 for this if the donation to the RBL was £5. I'll buy more Poppies this year
I wish I could type...
[quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: Fantastic by the Hortns. Hope more clubs follow suite. I'd happily pay £45 for this if the donation to the RBL was £5. I'll buy more Poppies this year[/p][/quote]I wish I could type... PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 12

5:49pm Thu 5 Jun 14

chadderton orn says...

Don't normally buy the away shirt. I only buy the home shirt and put it away, This time looks like I'm buying both good shout by watford, well dune.
Don't normally buy the away shirt. I only buy the home shirt and put it away, This time looks like I'm buying both good shout by watford, well dune. chadderton orn
  • Score: 22

5:50pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Surbiton says...

A truly inspired idea. I only hope the fans buy the shirt in large numbers and show their solidarity with our own dozen players. It would be interesting to find out how many survived the Great War and in what circumstances. Does anyone know?
A truly inspired idea. I only hope the fans buy the shirt in large numbers and show their solidarity with our own dozen players. It would be interesting to find out how many survived the Great War and in what circumstances. Does anyone know? Surbiton
  • Score: 20

6:30pm Thu 5 Jun 14

endean2 says...

top marks WFC, a really classy decision, that's the way to go.
top marks WFC, a really classy decision, that's the way to go. endean2
  • Score: 21

6:41pm Thu 5 Jun 14

watfordrick says...

yeah agreed except they could have donated more than £1.
yeah agreed except they could have donated more than £1. watfordrick
  • Score: 30

6:52pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Watfordpete says...

I believe ten survived.
I believe ten survived. Watfordpete
  • Score: 7

7:19pm Thu 5 Jun 14

BC Hornet says...

Nice touch. We will remember them.
Nice touch. We will remember them. BC Hornet
  • Score: 14

7:22pm Thu 5 Jun 14

rayman01 says...

All for a good cause. Also glad they dropped the horrible maroon and gone for black and white which is hard to get wrong. Just might coincide with better away form. Luv the Horns!
All for a good cause. Also glad they dropped the horrible maroon and gone for black and white which is hard to get wrong. Just might coincide with better away form. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 6

7:38pm Thu 5 Jun 14

FelixTheHorn says...

There was quite a controversy at the start of the war at the lack of footballers signing up, so it was suggested that a Footballers' Battalion should be formed.

I am immensely proud that 3 Watford players were among the first group of 35 recruits who enlisted at a meeting to found the Battalion on the 15th December 1914.

They were Reg Williams, Alexander Stewart and Joe McLauchlan.
You can read about them in When The Whistle Blows, the story of the 17th (Footballers') Battalion, the Middlesex Regiment. It's moving stuff.
Their courage should be marked...
There was quite a controversy at the start of the war at the lack of footballers signing up, so it was suggested that a Footballers' Battalion should be formed. I am immensely proud that 3 Watford players were among the first group of 35 recruits who enlisted at a meeting to found the Battalion on the 15th December 1914. They were Reg Williams, Alexander Stewart and Joe McLauchlan. You can read about them in When The Whistle Blows, the story of the 17th (Footballers') Battalion, the Middlesex Regiment. It's moving stuff. Their courage should be marked... FelixTheHorn
  • Score: 35

8:07pm Thu 5 Jun 14

D.unstable says...

12 true legends to be remembered, excellent...credit to Watford Fc
12 true legends to be remembered, excellent...credit to Watford Fc D.unstable
  • Score: 12

8:10pm Thu 5 Jun 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

FelixTheHorn wrote:
There was quite a controversy at the start of the war at the lack of footballers signing up, so it was suggested that a Footballers' Battalion should be formed.

I am immensely proud that 3 Watford players were among the first group of 35 recruits who enlisted at a meeting to found the Battalion on the 15th December 1914.

They were Reg Williams, Alexander Stewart and Joe McLauchlan.
You can read about them in When The Whistle Blows, the story of the 17th (Footballers') Battalion, the Middlesex Regiment. It's moving stuff.
Their courage should be marked...
Just ordered my copy, thanks for the heads up
[quote][p][bold]FelixTheHorn[/bold] wrote: There was quite a controversy at the start of the war at the lack of footballers signing up, so it was suggested that a Footballers' Battalion should be formed. I am immensely proud that 3 Watford players were among the first group of 35 recruits who enlisted at a meeting to found the Battalion on the 15th December 1914. They were Reg Williams, Alexander Stewart and Joe McLauchlan. You can read about them in When The Whistle Blows, the story of the 17th (Footballers') Battalion, the Middlesex Regiment. It's moving stuff. Their courage should be marked...[/p][/quote]Just ordered my copy, thanks for the heads up PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 11

8:13pm Thu 5 Jun 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

Surbiton wrote:
A truly inspired idea. I only hope the fans buy the shirt in large numbers and show their solidarity with our own dozen players. It would be interesting to find out how many survived the Great War and in what circumstances. Does anyone know?
It's on the official site. The ten who were on the books at the outbreak of the war all survived. Two who had previously played for Watford before the war paid the ultimate price.
[quote][p][bold]Surbiton[/bold] wrote: A truly inspired idea. I only hope the fans buy the shirt in large numbers and show their solidarity with our own dozen players. It would be interesting to find out how many survived the Great War and in what circumstances. Does anyone know?[/p][/quote]It's on the official site. The ten who were on the books at the outbreak of the war all survived. Two who had previously played for Watford before the war paid the ultimate price. PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 4

8:21pm Thu 5 Jun 14

lockerbiehornet says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=BREfxdspt
0w

Youtube launch. Brilliant idea WFC , makes me even prouder to be a Golden Boy, may even buy another one for the Mrs even though shes a Rangers fan!!
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=BREfxdspt 0w Youtube launch. Brilliant idea WFC , makes me even prouder to be a Golden Boy, may even buy another one for the Mrs even though shes a Rangers fan!! lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 11

8:32pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Oldhorn says...

Totally agree. I think it's a superb gesture. However, please all take note of this excerpt from the excellent "From the Rookery End " blog.....
>>>>>
Please, please, please can people not start saying that it is because the Pozzo's own us and Udinese. What the 12 men did for us is worth remembering and not having it tainted by people guessing that it is part of a Pozzo plan!
Totally agree. I think it's a superb gesture. However, please all take note of this excerpt from the excellent "From the Rookery End " blog..... >>>>> Please, please, please can people not start saying that it is because the Pozzo's own us and Udinese. What the 12 men did for us is worth remembering and not having it tainted by people guessing that it is part of a Pozzo plan! Oldhorn
  • Score: 12

8:41pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Mr Dactyl says...

Surbiton wrote:
A truly inspired idea. I only hope the fans buy the shirt in large numbers and show their solidarity with our own dozen players. It would be interesting to find out how many survived the Great War and in what circumstances. Does anyone know?
I believe they all survived although a few of them recieved shrapnal wounds...
[quote][p][bold]Surbiton[/bold] wrote: A truly inspired idea. I only hope the fans buy the shirt in large numbers and show their solidarity with our own dozen players. It would be interesting to find out how many survived the Great War and in what circumstances. Does anyone know?[/p][/quote]I believe they all survived although a few of them recieved shrapnal wounds... Mr Dactyl
  • Score: 3

9:09pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Cuthbert007 says...

Why do Watford charge so much for a football top. The kits top wont even have the sponsor on it and it costs £30 or £55 for whole kit. I could understand if WFC gave £10 to the Royal British Legion and would be a nice touch as its WW1 centenary year. How about a memorial at the club for these great guys who defended our country and gave us our freedom..........
Why do Watford charge so much for a football top. The kits top wont even have the sponsor on it and it costs £30 or £55 for whole kit. I could understand if WFC gave £10 to the Royal British Legion and would be a nice touch as its WW1 centenary year. How about a memorial at the club for these great guys who defended our country and gave us our freedom.......... Cuthbert007
  • Score: 3

9:12pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Surbiton says...

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
FelixTheHorn wrote:
There was quite a controversy at the start of the war at the lack of footballers signing up, so it was suggested that a Footballers' Battalion should be formed.

I am immensely proud that 3 Watford players were among the first group of 35 recruits who enlisted at a meeting to found the Battalion on the 15th December 1914.

They were Reg Williams, Alexander Stewart and Joe McLauchlan.
You can read about them in When The Whistle Blows, the story of the 17th (Footballers') Battalion, the Middlesex Regiment. It's moving stuff.
Their courage should be marked...
Just ordered my copy, thanks for the heads up
Thanks for that FelixTheHorn.For me it is now even more interesting as my Grandfather was in the 13th Batallion Middx Regt and was awarded the Military Medal at the Somme. We owe such a debt to these men for what they had to endure. I don't think any of us have any idea what it must have been like to have to live in the conditions that they did for weeks and months on end. Total respect.
[quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FelixTheHorn[/bold] wrote: There was quite a controversy at the start of the war at the lack of footballers signing up, so it was suggested that a Footballers' Battalion should be formed. I am immensely proud that 3 Watford players were among the first group of 35 recruits who enlisted at a meeting to found the Battalion on the 15th December 1914. They were Reg Williams, Alexander Stewart and Joe McLauchlan. You can read about them in When The Whistle Blows, the story of the 17th (Footballers') Battalion, the Middlesex Regiment. It's moving stuff. Their courage should be marked...[/p][/quote]Just ordered my copy, thanks for the heads up[/p][/quote]Thanks for that FelixTheHorn.For me it is now even more interesting as my Grandfather was in the 13th Batallion Middx Regt and was awarded the Military Medal at the Somme. We owe such a debt to these men for what they had to endure. I don't think any of us have any idea what it must have been like to have to live in the conditions that they did for weeks and months on end. Total respect. Surbiton
  • Score: 9

9:14pm Thu 5 Jun 14

G_Whiz says...

Watford and........ even prouder!
Watford and........ even prouder! G_Whiz
  • Score: 8

9:23pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Drewoneone says...

Cuthbert007 wrote:
Why do Watford charge so much for a football top. The kits top wont even have the sponsor on it and it costs £30 or £55 for whole kit. I could understand if WFC gave £10 to the Royal British Legion and would be a nice touch as its WW1 centenary year. How about a memorial at the club for these great guys who defended our country and gave us our freedom..........
Great idea Cuthbert. There is plenty of space around the stadium for a memorial but it needs to be somewhere that all fans can see it,. Maybe proceeds from the match against Udinese could partly be used towards the memorial?
[quote][p][bold]Cuthbert007[/bold] wrote: Why do Watford charge so much for a football top. The kits top wont even have the sponsor on it and it costs £30 or £55 for whole kit. I could understand if WFC gave £10 to the Royal British Legion and would be a nice touch as its WW1 centenary year. How about a memorial at the club for these great guys who defended our country and gave us our freedom..........[/p][/quote]Great idea Cuthbert. There is plenty of space around the stadium for a memorial but it needs to be somewhere that all fans can see it,. Maybe proceeds from the match against Udinese could partly be used towards the memorial? Drewoneone
  • Score: 7

10:10pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Bush Hornet says...

As has been said: classy.
I am v impressed with Gino Pozzo from his recent interview on Player. We are blessed to have a club run sensitively and with dignity.
As has been said: classy. I am v impressed with Gino Pozzo from his recent interview on Player. We are blessed to have a club run sensitively and with dignity. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 9

10:23pm Thu 5 Jun 14

bornyellow says...

What a nice touch...lets never forget those who suffered and fought so bravely ...well done Watford...
What a nice touch...lets never forget those who suffered and fought so bravely ...well done Watford... bornyellow
  • Score: 6

11:12pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Monstermunch17 says...

Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less. Monstermunch17
  • Score: -18

3:17am Fri 6 Jun 14

aupaathletic says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain.
If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them. aupaathletic
  • Score: 11

6:21am Fri 6 Jun 14

robo bovingdon says...

It is simple if anyone wants to support these fine guys why not make a donation of substance instead of buying an over priced kit with a £1 donation,with season tickets catering etc during a season the club get enough of my cash.
It is simple if anyone wants to support these fine guys why not make a donation of substance instead of buying an over priced kit with a £1 donation,with season tickets catering etc during a season the club get enough of my cash. robo bovingdon
  • Score: 3

7:03am Fri 6 Jun 14

kingofpop says...

Watford charge no more for shirts than anyone else and all clubs have a new strip every season...have done for a good few years now. Ultimately it's simple, either buy a shirt or you don't, I wonder how many moan but waste money on buying cigarettes? At least a shirt can last year's and be used more than once.
Personally I don't often buy them these days and if I do I wait for the sales.
As a business if you know you have almost guaranteed amount of sales of a product every year I'm pretty sure everyone would do the same
Watford charge no more for shirts than anyone else and all clubs have a new strip every season...have done for a good few years now. Ultimately it's simple, either buy a shirt or you don't, I wonder how many moan but waste money on buying cigarettes? At least a shirt can last year's and be used more than once. Personally I don't often buy them these days and if I do I wait for the sales. As a business if you know you have almost guaranteed amount of sales of a product every year I'm pretty sure everyone would do the same kingofpop
  • Score: 3

7:57am Fri 6 Jun 14

Mark-H says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes.

Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone.

If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes. Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone. If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead. Mark-H
  • Score: -6

8:28am Fri 6 Jun 14

mellow yellow says...

Mark-H wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes.

Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone.

If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.
It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied.
[quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes. Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone. If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.[/p][/quote]It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied. mellow yellow
  • Score: 10

8:55am Fri 6 Jun 14

Mark-H says...

mellow yellow wrote:
Mark-H wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes.

Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone.

If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.
It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied.
That is a fair point Mellow. It wasn't meant to read arrogantly (just re-read it myself). I just think that this country's worship of the military and everyone associated with the military almost as a cult is really dangerous, and it shouldn't be accepted without question.

And I wouldn't be surprised if fans of other clubs claim we're doing it precisely because of the Italian owners...
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes. Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone. If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.[/p][/quote]It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied.[/p][/quote]That is a fair point Mellow. It wasn't meant to read arrogantly (just re-read it myself). I just think that this country's worship of the military and everyone associated with the military almost as a cult is really dangerous, and it shouldn't be accepted without question. And I wouldn't be surprised if fans of other clubs claim we're doing it precisely because of the Italian owners... Mark-H
  • Score: 0

9:13am Fri 6 Jun 14

SAHornet says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
If you can dis this then, no, you don't love Watford. Pathetic rant !
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]If you can dis this then, no, you don't love Watford. Pathetic rant ! SAHornet
  • Score: -2

9:43am Fri 6 Jun 14

HornetJJ says...

Cuthbert007 wrote:
Why do Watford charge so much for a football top. The kits top wont even have the sponsor on it and it costs £30 or £55 for whole kit. I could understand if WFC gave £10 to the Royal British Legion and would be a nice touch as its WW1 centenary year. How about a memorial at the club for these great guys who defended our country and gave us our freedom..........
Watford do not charge anymore than any other club, also the kids kits don't have a sponsor due to it being a betting company as I'm sure all the do gooders would be having a whinge about it if they did!
[quote][p][bold]Cuthbert007[/bold] wrote: Why do Watford charge so much for a football top. The kits top wont even have the sponsor on it and it costs £30 or £55 for whole kit. I could understand if WFC gave £10 to the Royal British Legion and would be a nice touch as its WW1 centenary year. How about a memorial at the club for these great guys who defended our country and gave us our freedom..........[/p][/quote]Watford do not charge anymore than any other club, also the kids kits don't have a sponsor due to it being a betting company as I'm sure all the do gooders would be having a whinge about it if they did! HornetJJ
  • Score: 1

9:46am Fri 6 Jun 14

LoveKeithDublin says...

I think it's a great gesture and I love the way the club are now going about things (returned season ticket seat sales going to a hospice etc) - all very classy stuff, a world away from Bas' reign.

I do feel though that if you're hanging your hat (and launching a big advertising campaign) on raising money for war heroes, you should donate more than £1 per shirt. After the very moving campaign video I was a bit disappointed to see we'd only be donating a pound per shirt, five pounds would have been more like it.
I think it's a great gesture and I love the way the club are now going about things (returned season ticket seat sales going to a hospice etc) - all very classy stuff, a world away from Bas' reign. I do feel though that if you're hanging your hat (and launching a big advertising campaign) on raising money for war heroes, you should donate more than £1 per shirt. After the very moving campaign video I was a bit disappointed to see we'd only be donating a pound per shirt, five pounds would have been more like it. LoveKeithDublin
  • Score: 4

10:03am Fri 6 Jun 14

mellow yellow says...

Mark-H wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
Mark-H wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes.

Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone.

If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.
It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied.
That is a fair point Mellow. It wasn't meant to read arrogantly (just re-read it myself). I just think that this country's worship of the military and everyone associated with the military almost as a cult is really dangerous, and it shouldn't be accepted without question.

And I wouldn't be surprised if fans of other clubs claim we're doing it precisely because of the Italian owners...
I empathise with your take on the military, but I really don't think that is what's going on here. At least I hope not. As for fans of other clubs, well, they can go do one! Once we start getting jibes about the away kit being the same as the Udinese home shirt, we simply point out they were our shirts 100 years ago. Knowing our history, old bean. ;)
[quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes. Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone. If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.[/p][/quote]It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied.[/p][/quote]That is a fair point Mellow. It wasn't meant to read arrogantly (just re-read it myself). I just think that this country's worship of the military and everyone associated with the military almost as a cult is really dangerous, and it shouldn't be accepted without question. And I wouldn't be surprised if fans of other clubs claim we're doing it precisely because of the Italian owners...[/p][/quote]I empathise with your take on the military, but I really don't think that is what's going on here. At least I hope not. As for fans of other clubs, well, they can go do one! Once we start getting jibes about the away kit being the same as the Udinese home shirt, we simply point out they were our shirts 100 years ago. Knowing our history, old bean. ;) mellow yellow
  • Score: 0

10:53am Fri 6 Jun 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Mark-H wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
Mark-H wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money.

Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion.

I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes.

Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone.

If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.
It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied.
That is a fair point Mellow. It wasn't meant to read arrogantly (just re-read it myself). I just think that this country's worship of the military and everyone associated with the military almost as a cult is really dangerous, and it shouldn't be accepted without question.

And I wouldn't be surprised if fans of other clubs claim we're doing it precisely because of the Italian owners...
Looks to me like a simple gesture from the club to the thousands of men and women who put their life on the line, so that people like you and me could come on here and post comments. It's simple, if you don't like/agree with it, don't buy it, if like me you think £1 is too little (and for families with 2/3 wee ones, this might be too much if it were a fiver) then buy a fivers worth of Poppies this year.
Proud to be a Golden Boy, How many other clubs have you heard of doing this? Are we the 1st again??? COYGB's
[quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark-H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Spot on. I'm glad I'm not the only one to treat this with suspicion. It looks a nice gesture but this is a gimmick, and I can't believe so many people have swallowed it. All you have to do is invoke the cult of the dead soldier or 'our brave boys' and anything goes. Rather than putting them on a pedestal for saving our country/defending our liberty/whatever, I'd like the club to fund research into this group of 12 with the intention of discovering what these men did, where they served, for how long, where they came from (I spy plenty of Irish names there) - then maybe release a book on the topic with the proceeds going to the Legion. Robert McGuire's regiment isn't even listed! By claiming that everyone and anyone who has ever served in the army is a hero, you reduce these people to a homogenised group rather than individuals. The military has plenty of documentation in its records - these people have a story - and that's what should be studied. One of them might have been a cook! Others may have been conscripted rather than volunteered. We don't know, and blindly praising them purely for being in the army doesn't help anyone. If anyone on here really wants to help out the Legion, then set up a monthly direct debit for however much you feel like/can spare, or sell poppies around Armistice Day. Don't fall for this guff instead.[/p][/quote]It must be great to be so enlightened. Bottom line is, as with the kit, if you choose to buy into it, that's your choice. Berating others for falling 'for this guff' gives you an aura of superiority you shouldn't seek to command. That may not have been your intention, that's how it reads. I'm sure if other clubs were to do the same thing, there would be those on this site claiming Watford weren't doing it because we are owned by Italians and our roots are being denied.[/p][/quote]That is a fair point Mellow. It wasn't meant to read arrogantly (just re-read it myself). I just think that this country's worship of the military and everyone associated with the military almost as a cult is really dangerous, and it shouldn't be accepted without question. And I wouldn't be surprised if fans of other clubs claim we're doing it precisely because of the Italian owners...[/p][/quote]Looks to me like a simple gesture from the club to the thousands of men and women who put their life on the line, so that people like you and me could come on here and post comments. It's simple, if you don't like/agree with it, don't buy it, if like me you think £1 is too little (and for families with 2/3 wee ones, this might be too much if it were a fiver) then buy a fivers worth of Poppies this year. Proud to be a Golden Boy, How many other clubs have you heard of doing this? Are we the 1st again??? COYGB's lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 4

11:34am Fri 6 Jun 14

Boosey says...

Proud to be British, proud to have been born in Watford, proud to be raised in Watford, proud to support Watford but more so ,very proud of our military.
The human sacrifice to defend these Isles is incredible and all we get on this site is a few people who always have a negative slant on things.
Over the course of a year I am sure that our club continually donate to more than one worthy cause and this is likely to run into thousands of pounds so if it's a pound or only fifty pence please do not knock it. It wouldn't surprise me that the knockers on here have never donated to any good cause.
Proud to be British, proud to have been born in Watford, proud to be raised in Watford, proud to support Watford but more so ,very proud of our military. The human sacrifice to defend these Isles is incredible and all we get on this site is a few people who always have a negative slant on things. Over the course of a year I am sure that our club continually donate to more than one worthy cause and this is likely to run into thousands of pounds so if it's a pound or only fifty pence please do not knock it. It wouldn't surprise me that the knockers on here have never donated to any good cause. Boosey
  • Score: 5

1:23pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Monstermunch17 says...

aupaathletic wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.
You have spectacularly missed the point.

I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys.

None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt.
[quote][p][bold]aupaathletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.[/p][/quote]You have spectacularly missed the point. I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys. None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt. Monstermunch17
  • Score: -3

1:34pm Fri 6 Jun 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
aupaathletic wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.
You have spectacularly missed the point.

I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys.

None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt.
And in that comment alone it is 'you who've spectacularly missed the point' Stop digging and have a bit of pride for being associated with a club that's doing something to respect these brave men & women
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aupaathletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.[/p][/quote]You have spectacularly missed the point. I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys. None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt.[/p][/quote]And in that comment alone it is 'you who've spectacularly missed the point' Stop digging and have a bit of pride for being associated with a club that's doing something to respect these brave men & women lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 4

6:25pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Monstermunch17 says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
aupaathletic wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.
You have spectacularly missed the point.

I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys.

None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt.
And in that comment alone it is 'you who've spectacularly missed the point' Stop digging and have a bit of pride for being associated with a club that's doing something to respect these brave men & women
Where is the kit to commemorate players who died in WW2? Or Afghanistan or anywhere else? Or all the people who have represented Watford, who died in other horrible, pointless ways, not involved in world wars.

It's a cheap gimmick.

Just off now to buy my commemorative ship in a bottle, to remember the 3 brave hornets that died on the Titanic. It's £49.99, but it's ok because 50p on each one goes to the Lifeboats Association. What a club
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aupaathletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.[/p][/quote]You have spectacularly missed the point. I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys. None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt.[/p][/quote]And in that comment alone it is 'you who've spectacularly missed the point' Stop digging and have a bit of pride for being associated with a club that's doing something to respect these brave men & women[/p][/quote]Where is the kit to commemorate players who died in WW2? Or Afghanistan or anywhere else? Or all the people who have represented Watford, who died in other horrible, pointless ways, not involved in world wars. It's a cheap gimmick. Just off now to buy my commemorative ship in a bottle, to remember the 3 brave hornets that died on the Titanic. It's £49.99, but it's ok because 50p on each one goes to the Lifeboats Association. What a club Monstermunch17
  • Score: -2

11:11am Sat 7 Jun 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Monstermunch17 wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote:
aupaathletic wrote:
Monstermunch17 wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.
Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.
You have spectacularly missed the point.

I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys.

None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt.
And in that comment alone it is 'you who've spectacularly missed the point' Stop digging and have a bit of pride for being associated with a club that's doing something to respect these brave men & women
Where is the kit to commemorate players who died in WW2? Or Afghanistan or anywhere else? Or all the people who have represented Watford, who died in other horrible, pointless ways, not involved in world wars.

It's a cheap gimmick.

Just off now to buy my commemorative ship in a bottle, to remember the 3 brave hornets that died on the Titanic. It's £49.99, but it's ok because 50p on each one goes to the Lifeboats Association. What a club
So if everyone in the UK gave a £1 and the Legion woke up with £65 million in their account next day, would it be a cheap gimmick then??

A £1 is widely accepted as the 'recommended' donation (Help for Heroes/Poppy Day etc..) if you feel it's cheap I presume you'll be signing a big fat cheque for £100+ to The Royal Legion on Monday morning.

Your the cheap gimmick and an embarrassing one at that
[quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aupaathletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monstermunch17[/bold] wrote: Produced in a sweat-shop by young kids on a dollar a day. A massive mark-up on a kit rarely used ( we play in yellow?) for any football reasons, but re-launched regularly so kit manufacturers and the club can make money. Yet 12 guys from 100 years ago are invoked, and you're all queuing up to buy one, so a £1 can go to the British legion. I love Watford, but this is this year's gimmick. No more, no less.[/p][/quote]Obviously some monster has munched your immature brain. If it wasn't for 12 guys and millions more you wouldn't be able to come out withsuch pathetic crap. Finally we have owners who continue to make decisions that show the club in a good light unlike so many of the morons that have preceded them.[/p][/quote]You have spectacularly missed the point. I am not questioning the sacrifice these men made. The Great War entailed a horrific loss of life, (on both sides). It was disastrous political failing on a scale never previously seen. Lions led by donkeys. None of which has anything to do with Watford FC selling their change strip. It is not these men I am attacking, but the tawdry PR stunt.[/p][/quote]And in that comment alone it is 'you who've spectacularly missed the point' Stop digging and have a bit of pride for being associated with a club that's doing something to respect these brave men & women[/p][/quote]Where is the kit to commemorate players who died in WW2? Or Afghanistan or anywhere else? Or all the people who have represented Watford, who died in other horrible, pointless ways, not involved in world wars. It's a cheap gimmick. Just off now to buy my commemorative ship in a bottle, to remember the 3 brave hornets that died on the Titanic. It's £49.99, but it's ok because 50p on each one goes to the Lifeboats Association. What a club[/p][/quote]So if everyone in the UK gave a £1 and the Legion woke up with £65 million in their account next day, would it be a cheap gimmick then?? A £1 is widely accepted as the 'recommended' donation (Help for Heroes/Poppy Day etc..) if you feel it's cheap I presume you'll be signing a big fat cheque for £100+ to The Royal Legion on Monday morning. Your the cheap gimmick and an embarrassing one at that lockerbiehornet
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8:00pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Monstermunch17 says...

'You're' not 'your'

I think you've lost the thread of the argument so going to move on now. We weren't really discussing the'recommended' donation, or the outcome if everyone woke up and gave a pound to charity.
'You're' not 'your' I think you've lost the thread of the argument so going to move on now. We weren't really discussing the'recommended' donation, or the outcome if everyone woke up and gave a pound to charity. Monstermunch17
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