Watford have rejected a bid from Premier League side Burnley for last season's top scorer Troy Deeney

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Watford have confirmed they have rejected a bid from Premier League side Burnley for striker Troy Deeney.

The 26-year-old, who scored 24 times in the Championship last season, has been linked with a move away from the Hornets this summer and the club are expecting offers.

The Clarets are managed by former Hornets boss Sean Dyche and he worked with Deeney during his season in charge at Vicarage Road.

The fee offered by Burnley has not been revealed but it is one that has not met the club’s valuation of last season’s top scorer.

However, with a host of clubs including West Bromwich Albion, Swansea City, Aston Villa and Norwich City all reportedly interested in Deeney further bids are expected.

Deeney was signed by Malky Mackay in 2010 but struggled to break into the starting line-up during his first season at the club.

He turned his Watford career around under the guidance of Dyche.

He scored 11 league goals during the 2011/2012 campaign but the following season went on to strike 20 times in the Championship, alongside Matej Vydra, as the Hornets twice missed out on promotion to the Premier League.

The last campaign was Deeney’s most prolific. He netted 25 goals in 48 matches to become the first player since Luther Blissett to score 20 times in all competitions in consecutive seasons.

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10:33am Thu 3 Jul 14

watford1881 says...

More money please or fu.... Go away.....
More money please or fu.... Go away..... watford1881
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10:34am Thu 3 Jul 14

Bush Hornet says...

£10-£12m. Not a penny less. Still, would prefer him to stay
£10-£12m. Not a penny less. Still, would prefer him to stay Bush Hornet
  • Score: 32

10:42am Thu 3 Jul 14

hemelhorn87 says...

It's going to be a long summer
It's going to be a long summer hemelhorn87
  • Score: 24

10:43am Thu 3 Jul 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

Yeah, jog on. You've just bagged rather a large amount of cash for going up, so put your hand in your pocket.
Yeah, jog on. You've just bagged rather a large amount of cash for going up, so put your hand in your pocket. JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 8

10:44am Thu 3 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
£10-£12m. Not a penny less. Still, would prefer him to stay
I think £8m is probably a more likely minimum. The thing is though that yes he'd be working with Dyche but the chances are that going to Burnley he would pass us on his way back down.
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: £10-£12m. Not a penny less. Still, would prefer him to stay[/p][/quote]I think £8m is probably a more likely minimum. The thing is though that yes he'd be working with Dyche but the chances are that going to Burnley he would pass us on his way back down. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 14

10:45am Thu 3 Jul 14

Golferever says...

Any club that wants Deeney should be made to realise that goal-scoring machines don't come cheaply.
His 20 goals NEXT season could be worth up to £120m to Watford.

I will be disappointed if we let him go for less than £8-10m, especially now that we have Vydra back as his strike partner.
The pair together must be worth £20m to a Premiership Team.
Any club that wants Deeney should be made to realise that goal-scoring machines don't come cheaply. His 20 goals NEXT season could be worth up to £120m to Watford. I will be disappointed if we let him go for less than £8-10m, especially now that we have Vydra back as his strike partner. The pair together must be worth £20m to a Premiership Team. Golferever
  • Score: 27

10:48am Thu 3 Jul 14

croxley46 says...

Please don't go Troy.
With Vydra beside you again this season you'll (both) be in the Premiership in a year's time anyway.
Please don't go Troy. With Vydra beside you again this season you'll (both) be in the Premiership in a year's time anyway. croxley46
  • Score: 26

10:51am Thu 3 Jul 14

StillScratchingMyEyes says...

All well and good getting £8m+ for Deeney but we have to replace him, which isn't exactly easy. Unless he wants to go and won't be committed next season which doesn't seem to be the case I wouldn't accept any bid. Promotion will be worth much more.
All well and good getting £8m+ for Deeney but we have to replace him, which isn't exactly easy. Unless he wants to go and won't be committed next season which doesn't seem to be the case I wouldn't accept any bid. Promotion will be worth much more. StillScratchingMyEyes
  • Score: 24

11:02am Thu 3 Jul 14

Jasper Claret says...

Is this the for the first bid or the second bid thought to be £5 million, £6 million respectively.
Is this the for the first bid or the second bid thought to be £5 million, £6 million respectively. Jasper Claret
  • Score: 0

11:03am Thu 3 Jul 14

Havana Club says...

If Leeds have received bids of around £10m for Ross McCormack then that is the benchmark for Troy. The Pozzos have already said how overpriced British players are and so hardly likely to be any more generous.

And it needs to be a clean sale, none of this imposing of the risk on the seller: £5m now, another £3m if we stay up, £x-y for goals and sell on clauses etc.... Fat fee, all upfront, buyer's risk.

Think Ranegie, at times, looked like he could be the replacement already, but will see. If Troy does go then I doubt it will be a snap decision. It would have been agreed and planned for since April when our season was formally over. All signings, including MV made since then have been with this scenario very likely.
If Leeds have received bids of around £10m for Ross McCormack then that is the benchmark for Troy. The Pozzos have already said how overpriced British players are and so hardly likely to be any more generous. And it needs to be a clean sale, none of this imposing of the risk on the seller: £5m now, another £3m if we stay up, £x-y for goals and sell on clauses etc.... Fat fee, all upfront, buyer's risk. Think Ranegie, at times, looked like he could be the replacement already, but will see. If Troy does go then I doubt it will be a snap decision. It would have been agreed and planned for since April when our season was formally over. All signings, including MV made since then have been with this scenario very likely. Havana Club
  • Score: 19

11:03am Thu 3 Jul 14

Hornankey says...

Let's hope that attractive terms can be agreed to get him to stay and motivate him to perform. However, a footballers career is short and littered with risks; injury, loss of form etc. He has to look after his and his family's best interests. Much as we would like it, we cannot expect him (or the Pozzos) to forego a significantly better package on offer elsewhere. He has served us well, good luck to him.
Let's hope that attractive terms can be agreed to get him to stay and motivate him to perform. However, a footballers career is short and littered with risks; injury, loss of form etc. He has to look after his and his family's best interests. Much as we would like it, we cannot expect him (or the Pozzos) to forego a significantly better package on offer elsewhere. He has served us well, good luck to him. Hornankey
  • Score: 24

11:05am Thu 3 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

So thankful for Deeney's attitude to the whole thing. Most player's would be asking for a transfer request this summer in Deeney's position.

Thank goodness Zola gave him a chance after his prison sentence...
So thankful for Deeney's attitude to the whole thing. Most player's would be asking for a transfer request this summer in Deeney's position. Thank goodness Zola gave him a chance after his prison sentence... The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 33

11:17am Thu 3 Jul 14

Nick El Greco says...

Hornankey wrote:
Let's hope that attractive terms can be agreed to get him to stay and motivate him to perform. However, a footballers career is short and littered with risks; injury, loss of form etc. He has to look after his and his family's best interests. Much as we would like it, we cannot expect him (or the Pozzos) to forego a significantly better package on offer elsewhere. He has served us well, good luck to him.
He only signed a 3 year deal in March last year. I know what you're saying but you can't negotiate a pay rise every time anyone expresses an interest in you. If he was unhappy with the terms he was offered last March he wouldn't have signed. There is no significantly better package on offer anywhere unless Gino Pozzo accepts an offer and gives him permission to speak to someone which I sincerely hope he won't
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: Let's hope that attractive terms can be agreed to get him to stay and motivate him to perform. However, a footballers career is short and littered with risks; injury, loss of form etc. He has to look after his and his family's best interests. Much as we would like it, we cannot expect him (or the Pozzos) to forego a significantly better package on offer elsewhere. He has served us well, good luck to him.[/p][/quote]He only signed a 3 year deal in March last year. I know what you're saying but you can't negotiate a pay rise every time anyone expresses an interest in you. If he was unhappy with the terms he was offered last March he wouldn't have signed. There is no significantly better package on offer anywhere unless Gino Pozzo accepts an offer and gives him permission to speak to someone which I sincerely hope he won't Nick El Greco
  • Score: -4

11:18am Thu 3 Jul 14

endean2 says...

Burnley, you can bet it was a derisory cheap offer,
they would never be prepared to pay a realistic sum for him.
U nfortunately I think he will go but make sure its for a proper figure,
the MC Cormack figure is what we need to hold out for.
Burnley, you can bet it was a derisory cheap offer, they would never be prepared to pay a realistic sum for him. U nfortunately I think he will go but make sure its for a proper figure, the MC Cormack figure is what we need to hold out for. endean2
  • Score: 0

11:41am Thu 3 Jul 14

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse says...

Burnley fan here in peace.

Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal.

Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead.

And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger.

Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney. Chuck Norris' Roundhouse
  • Score: 35

11:45am Thu 3 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Comments about Burnley. They have two excellent goal scorers whereas Watford went up through the play-offs each time with one. Mooney/King got nobbled in Sept and Nov respectively and just got back when relegation was "assured". Burnley have it right - have cover.

At long last it is not about tempting us with a p155 p00r offer to keep us from out of administration, but market rate bids.

Burnley and everyone else - sensible offers only please.

We want to keep our Troy but if the valuation is reached I guess that will be that.
Comments about Burnley. They have two excellent goal scorers whereas Watford went up through the play-offs each time with one. Mooney/King got nobbled in Sept and Nov respectively and just got back when relegation was "assured". Burnley have it right - have cover. At long last it is not about tempting us with a p155 p00r offer to keep us from out of administration, but market rate bids. Burnley and everyone else - sensible offers only please. We want to keep our Troy but if the valuation is reached I guess that will be that. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 13

11:57am Thu 3 Jul 14

londomollari says...

I am sure Deeney wants a shot at the Prem., and who can blame him? I suspect he might be happy with Burnley, as he knows Dychie. Someone at Watford will have already made arrangements with Deeney, and promised a move once the Pozzo valuation is met---that's why Deeney is quiet.
What will be he valuation that will get Gino out of bed early?
8 million. The McCormack valuation has been leaked out by Leeds to try to up bids---they will look for 8 mill too.
If the required bid does not come in, the Pozzos will not be worried---they want promotion. How Deeney will react is another matter.
Watford will want this settled quickly, for various reasons---one of them being they want Danny Graham---if he hasn't already committed elsewhere---and he won't be waiting.
I am sure Deeney wants a shot at the Prem., and who can blame him? I suspect he might be happy with Burnley, as he knows Dychie. Someone at Watford will have already made arrangements with Deeney, and promised a move once the Pozzo valuation is met---that's why Deeney is quiet. What will be he valuation that will get Gino out of bed early? 8 million. The McCormack valuation has been leaked out by Leeds to try to up bids---they will look for 8 mill too. If the required bid does not come in, the Pozzos will not be worried---they want promotion. How Deeney will react is another matter. Watford will want this settled quickly, for various reasons---one of them being they want Danny Graham---if he hasn't already committed elsewhere---and he won't be waiting. londomollari
  • Score: 11

11:57am Thu 3 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Burnley fan here in peace.

Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal.

Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead.

And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger.

Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
Hi Chuck,

I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well.

SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3.

People like Sean deserve success.
[quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.[/p][/quote]Hi Chuck, I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well. SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3. People like Sean deserve success. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 42

12:02pm Thu 3 Jul 14

RobboBTC says...

In the past I would have been concerned 1) as we would have let Deeney leave on the cheap and 2) wonder who would replace him, but with the Pozzo's in charge we will certainly find a suitable replacement, in addition to having Vydra at the club.
As much as I like Deeney I'm personally not sure he will cut it in the Premiership in terms of scoring goals at that level. He lacks the pace, trickery and skill to cause too much concern to top class defences, although he may do a job of holding the ball up and bringing others into play.
Due to the large sums of money now available to Burnley it looks like they are willing to take a punt and if they go down they know they have a player who will bag them 20 goals a season in the Championship.
I can see him leaving which will be a shame now that Vydra has returned. But then again we still have Forestieri (different type of player, granted), Ranegie who had a good return in goals considering how few games he played, as well as not being match fit. There is talk of signing Ighalo from Granada amongst others so I am sure we'll be fine.
In the past I would have been concerned 1) as we would have let Deeney leave on the cheap and 2) wonder who would replace him, but with the Pozzo's in charge we will certainly find a suitable replacement, in addition to having Vydra at the club. As much as I like Deeney I'm personally not sure he will cut it in the Premiership in terms of scoring goals at that level. He lacks the pace, trickery and skill to cause too much concern to top class defences, although he may do a job of holding the ball up and bringing others into play. Due to the large sums of money now available to Burnley it looks like they are willing to take a punt and if they go down they know they have a player who will bag them 20 goals a season in the Championship. I can see him leaving which will be a shame now that Vydra has returned. But then again we still have Forestieri (different type of player, granted), Ranegie who had a good return in goals considering how few games he played, as well as not being match fit. There is talk of signing Ighalo from Granada amongst others so I am sure we'll be fine. RobboBTC
  • Score: 11

12:13pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Veally01 says...

I am not sure that he would flourish at that level, in a similar way to the likes of Danny Graham and others who have either played for us or crossed our path. He is certainly effective at this level, but would he really cut the mustard for a lower ranked team like Burnley (who I hope do well btw). I do think he and Vydra will once again be a great combo; let us hope we get a chance to see. Our view as fans is not the same as his when it comes to the Bank Balance and he is likley to double his earnings, whoever he goes to......
I am not sure that he would flourish at that level, in a similar way to the likes of Danny Graham and others who have either played for us or crossed our path. He is certainly effective at this level, but would he really cut the mustard for a lower ranked team like Burnley (who I hope do well btw). I do think he and Vydra will once again be a great combo; let us hope we get a chance to see. Our view as fans is not the same as his when it comes to the Bank Balance and he is likley to double his earnings, whoever he goes to...... Veally01
  • Score: 7

12:17pm Thu 3 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think.

May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term.

The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call.

As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that.

A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion.
Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think. May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term. The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call. As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that. A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 3

12:20pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Good luck to Burnley next season, they were promoted on merit and, together with the crisp munchers, were the two best teams last season.

I hope Deeney stays with us and he could light up the Championship alongside Vydra. In his defence, he will want to play in the top division and if the money's good enough and someone more than doubles his wages, not many people would stay.

Could be an interesting old time.

HC
Good luck to Burnley next season, they were promoted on merit and, together with the crisp munchers, were the two best teams last season. I hope Deeney stays with us and he could light up the Championship alongside Vydra. In his defence, he will want to play in the top division and if the money's good enough and someone more than doubles his wages, not many people would stay. Could be an interesting old time. HC Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 17

12:27pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Havana Club says...

In 2012/3 season we all thought Vydra was THE star player, and the most likely to succeed in the Prem. He duly went and was found to be lacking that missing ingredient. He became a sub and got 3 goals all season and we wil see if that has affected him soon.

Still, Deeney might make a better fist of it, he's a hard worker. But the difference (for strikers particularly) is that the step up is huge. Defenders in the Prem are not as clumsy and chances are minimal if you're in a team preparing to play on the backfoot - which is how the three promoted teams will venture into the season. Burnley is a starting offer, but I think he could be looking at the likes of Everton, Hull, Stoke possibly Villa - teams with a Premiership foundation already. If such teams are not interested, then maybe there are doubts over his value and potential in that league.
In 2012/3 season we all thought Vydra was THE star player, and the most likely to succeed in the Prem. He duly went and was found to be lacking that missing ingredient. He became a sub and got 3 goals all season and we wil see if that has affected him soon. Still, Deeney might make a better fist of it, he's a hard worker. But the difference (for strikers particularly) is that the step up is huge. Defenders in the Prem are not as clumsy and chances are minimal if you're in a team preparing to play on the backfoot - which is how the three promoted teams will venture into the season. Burnley is a starting offer, but I think he could be looking at the likes of Everton, Hull, Stoke possibly Villa - teams with a Premiership foundation already. If such teams are not interested, then maybe there are doubts over his value and potential in that league. Havana Club
  • Score: 3

12:31pm Thu 3 Jul 14

PMJ1966 says...

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Burnley fan here in peace.

Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal.

Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead.

And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger.

Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
Hi Chuck,

I wish you every success next season (with or without Deeney) and sincerely hope you stay up which with SD in the job should be no problem. Lets just hope your board hold their nerve with SD when things might not be going quite so well.

Best of luck and hoping to join you in the Prem around April 2015 or earlier!
[quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.[/p][/quote]Hi Chuck, I wish you every success next season (with or without Deeney) and sincerely hope you stay up which with SD in the job should be no problem. Lets just hope your board hold their nerve with SD when things might not be going quite so well. Best of luck and hoping to join you in the Prem around April 2015 or earlier! PMJ1966
  • Score: 16

12:58pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse says...

Thanks for the nice comments guys.

Dyche has done brilliantly for us, and he still speaks highly of Watford and was somewhat unfortunate to get the boot there (As I am sure you are aware!).

If it is any consolation we are in the same boat with regards to Danny Ings, where the vultures are circling and rumours are flying every day about him moving to Liverpool, Newcastle, Southampton or even Germany (Oddly enough!), we remain confident of him signing an extension to his current agreement but agents rule nowadays and I just hope he is being advised wisely.

Glad to see you have Vydra back, as he was outstanding the season before last, I genuinely hope you do well next season, I think we proved last year that you don't necessarily need to spend big to succeed, but a good work ethic, a couple of top quality, in-form strikers and a slice of luck can see you over the line.
Thanks for the nice comments guys. Dyche has done brilliantly for us, and he still speaks highly of Watford and was somewhat unfortunate to get the boot there (As I am sure you are aware!). If it is any consolation we are in the same boat with regards to Danny Ings, where the vultures are circling and rumours are flying every day about him moving to Liverpool, Newcastle, Southampton or even Germany (Oddly enough!), we remain confident of him signing an extension to his current agreement but agents rule nowadays and I just hope he is being advised wisely. Glad to see you have Vydra back, as he was outstanding the season before last, I genuinely hope you do well next season, I think we proved last year that you don't necessarily need to spend big to succeed, but a good work ethic, a couple of top quality, in-form strikers and a slice of luck can see you over the line. Chuck Norris' Roundhouse
  • Score: 44

1:04pm Thu 3 Jul 14

only5foot3 says...

£10M PLUS DANNY INGS

because hes £10m better
£10M PLUS DANNY INGS because hes £10m better only5foot3
  • Score: -22

1:08pm Thu 3 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Havana Club wrote:
If Leeds have received bids of around £10m for Ross McCormack then that is the benchmark for Troy. The Pozzos have already said how overpriced British players are and so hardly likely to be any more generous.

And it needs to be a clean sale, none of this imposing of the risk on the seller: £5m now, another £3m if we stay up, £x-y for goals and sell on clauses etc.... Fat fee, all upfront, buyer's risk.

Think Ranegie, at times, looked like he could be the replacement already, but will see. If Troy does go then I doubt it will be a snap decision. It would have been agreed and planned for since April when our season was formally over. All signings, including MV made since then have been with this scenario very likely.
Due to his transfer request Leeds have accepted £6 million for McCormack so I don't think it'll be anymore then £7-£7.5 million for Troy, why don't we just accept £7.25 million for Troy and go and buy McCormack for £6.25 mill? After all he's proven at this level and it seems inevitable that whilst Troy is happy at the Vic, the right offer will come in for him this summer. Like the majority on here I'll be gutted if he goes, but better to be pro-active than have him leave in August with little or no time to get a replacement in
[quote][p][bold]Havana Club[/bold] wrote: If Leeds have received bids of around £10m for Ross McCormack then that is the benchmark for Troy. The Pozzos have already said how overpriced British players are and so hardly likely to be any more generous. And it needs to be a clean sale, none of this imposing of the risk on the seller: £5m now, another £3m if we stay up, £x-y for goals and sell on clauses etc.... Fat fee, all upfront, buyer's risk. Think Ranegie, at times, looked like he could be the replacement already, but will see. If Troy does go then I doubt it will be a snap decision. It would have been agreed and planned for since April when our season was formally over. All signings, including MV made since then have been with this scenario very likely.[/p][/quote]Due to his transfer request Leeds have accepted £6 million for McCormack so I don't think it'll be anymore then £7-£7.5 million for Troy, why don't we just accept £7.25 million for Troy and go and buy McCormack for £6.25 mill? After all he's proven at this level and it seems inevitable that whilst Troy is happy at the Vic, the right offer will come in for him this summer. Like the majority on here I'll be gutted if he goes, but better to be pro-active than have him leave in August with little or no time to get a replacement in lockerbiehornet
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1:20pm Thu 3 Jul 14

londomollari says...

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Thanks for the nice comments guys.

Dyche has done brilliantly for us, and he still speaks highly of Watford and was somewhat unfortunate to get the boot there (As I am sure you are aware!).

If it is any consolation we are in the same boat with regards to Danny Ings, where the vultures are circling and rumours are flying every day about him moving to Liverpool, Newcastle, Southampton or even Germany (Oddly enough!), we remain confident of him signing an extension to his current agreement but agents rule nowadays and I just hope he is being advised wisely.

Glad to see you have Vydra back, as he was outstanding the season before last, I genuinely hope you do well next season, I think we proved last year that you don't necessarily need to spend big to succeed, but a good work ethic, a couple of top quality, in-form strikers and a slice of luck can see you over the line.
Good luck to Burnley. I think most of us at Watford wish you (and S.D.) well. Many of us would have liked Dychie to have stayed---but we enjoyed the Zola season, too.
Will Deeney perform in the Premiership? I really don't know. At a guess, I think he will have problems against the more accomplished defenders and defences---but, like Danny Graham in his first season in the Prem, may produce, as an unknown factor, enough to justify a 'punt' on him.
Good luck to him if he goes---wish him all the best.
[quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Thanks for the nice comments guys. Dyche has done brilliantly for us, and he still speaks highly of Watford and was somewhat unfortunate to get the boot there (As I am sure you are aware!). If it is any consolation we are in the same boat with regards to Danny Ings, where the vultures are circling and rumours are flying every day about him moving to Liverpool, Newcastle, Southampton or even Germany (Oddly enough!), we remain confident of him signing an extension to his current agreement but agents rule nowadays and I just hope he is being advised wisely. Glad to see you have Vydra back, as he was outstanding the season before last, I genuinely hope you do well next season, I think we proved last year that you don't necessarily need to spend big to succeed, but a good work ethic, a couple of top quality, in-form strikers and a slice of luck can see you over the line.[/p][/quote]Good luck to Burnley. I think most of us at Watford wish you (and S.D.) well. Many of us would have liked Dychie to have stayed---but we enjoyed the Zola season, too. Will Deeney perform in the Premiership? I really don't know. At a guess, I think he will have problems against the more accomplished defenders and defences---but, like Danny Graham in his first season in the Prem, may produce, as an unknown factor, enough to justify a 'punt' on him. Good luck to him if he goes---wish him all the best. londomollari
  • Score: 12

1:38pm Thu 3 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

I reckon Deeney's not worth selling until he says he wants to go. Maybe I'd be tempted if someone offers 10 million + for him, provided at least 6 of it went to Watford to buy (not loan or get in someone out of contract) a replacement.

But if I were a club in the Premier League wanting to buy Deeney... I'd only want to spend 4 million... I might go up to 6 if I really really had to. Purely because he hasn't ever been tested at Premier League level, he's not particularly quick and he's not 21 anymore.

I don't think Deeney will go this summer, because he hasn't yet handed in a transfer request (thank God!), and he's worth more to us than he is to a Premier League club.
I reckon Deeney's not worth selling until he says he wants to go. Maybe I'd be tempted if someone offers 10 million + for him, provided at least 6 of it went to Watford to buy (not loan or get in someone out of contract) a replacement. But if I were a club in the Premier League wanting to buy Deeney... I'd only want to spend 4 million... I might go up to 6 if I really really had to. Purely because he hasn't ever been tested at Premier League level, he's not particularly quick and he's not 21 anymore. I don't think Deeney will go this summer, because he hasn't yet handed in a transfer request (thank God!), and he's worth more to us than he is to a Premier League club. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 4

1:39pm Thu 3 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

Having said that, he's much more likely to go now that Vydra has signed.
Having said that, he's much more likely to go now that Vydra has signed. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: -10

1:58pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Burnley fan here in peace.

Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal.

Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead.

And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger.

Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
Hi Chuck,

I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well.

SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3.

People like Sean deserve success.
Why do think that comment was silly? Surely any player would, other factors being equal, choose an established Premier League Club to go to, if they are bidding, rather than Burnley.

They'll be thinking about finishing in the bottom three, factoring that in. They're going in for players who will stick around if they get relegated.
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.[/p][/quote]Hi Chuck, I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well. SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3. People like Sean deserve success.[/p][/quote]Why do think that comment was silly? Surely any player would, other factors being equal, choose an established Premier League Club to go to, if they are bidding, rather than Burnley. They'll be thinking about finishing in the bottom three, factoring that in. They're going in for players who will stick around if they get relegated. Harry's Bar
  • Score: -3

2:49pm Thu 3 Jul 14

SAHornet says...

Like all of you, I like TD and hope he stays but doubt it very much. He should be allowed to go if the right bid comes in and deserves his shot at The Prem. I really don't fancy his chances there however. Can;t see him coping that well with quicker defenders who close him down in an instant. He needs space that he won't find in The Prem. Like Vydra & Graham, I think he'll discover that he is a good Champ player but not Prem material. If Troy does go, Graham, working with Vydra would be as good a replacement as anybody, I reckon.
Like all of you, I like TD and hope he stays but doubt it very much. He should be allowed to go if the right bid comes in and deserves his shot at The Prem. I really don't fancy his chances there however. Can;t see him coping that well with quicker defenders who close him down in an instant. He needs space that he won't find in The Prem. Like Vydra & Graham, I think he'll discover that he is a good Champ player but not Prem material. If Troy does go, Graham, working with Vydra would be as good a replacement as anybody, I reckon. SAHornet
  • Score: 4

2:59pm Thu 3 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Burnley fan here in peace.

Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal.

Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead.

And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger.

Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
Hi Chuck,

I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well.

SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3.

People like Sean deserve success.
Why do think that comment was silly? Surely any player would, other factors being equal, choose an established Premier League Club to go to, if they are bidding, rather than Burnley.

They'll be thinking about finishing in the bottom three, factoring that in. They're going in for players who will stick around if they get relegated.
Harry,

The silly bit was about "passing". It may happen - who knows.

Sean gets people playing. Burnley had not got a pot to urinate in and if he had a budget to buy players he certainly did not use it.

It is not as if they scraped promotion.
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.[/p][/quote]Hi Chuck, I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well. SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3. People like Sean deserve success.[/p][/quote]Why do think that comment was silly? Surely any player would, other factors being equal, choose an established Premier League Club to go to, if they are bidding, rather than Burnley. They'll be thinking about finishing in the bottom three, factoring that in. They're going in for players who will stick around if they get relegated.[/p][/quote]Harry, The silly bit was about "passing". It may happen - who knows. Sean gets people playing. Burnley had not got a pot to urinate in and if he had a budget to buy players he certainly did not use it. It is not as if they scraped promotion. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 8

3:11pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Burnley fan here in peace.

Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal.

Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead.

And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger.

Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
Hi Chuck,

I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well.

SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3.

People like Sean deserve success.
Why do think that comment was silly? Surely any player would, other factors being equal, choose an established Premier League Club to go to, if they are bidding, rather than Burnley.

They'll be thinking about finishing in the bottom three, factoring that in. They're going in for players who will stick around if they get relegated.
I understand what you are saying, but with established Premier League club Fulham going down and Norwich suffering a classic case of second season jitters after being comfortable during their debut year, then who knows who will be safe in the Premier League next season and be an 'established Premier League club?

I can't see anyone from the top half of the PL being interested in Deeney and all clubs from 11th place downwards are basically in a relegation scrap so Burnley would be as good a bet as anyone imo, particularly when you factor in Hull and Palace's seasons last year.
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.[/p][/quote]Hi Chuck, I thought the "passing" comment was silly as well. SD has done a fantastic job and there is no reason I can think of why Burnley should think about finishing in the bottom 3. People like Sean deserve success.[/p][/quote]Why do think that comment was silly? Surely any player would, other factors being equal, choose an established Premier League Club to go to, if they are bidding, rather than Burnley. They'll be thinking about finishing in the bottom three, factoring that in. They're going in for players who will stick around if they get relegated.[/p][/quote]I understand what you are saying, but with established Premier League club Fulham going down and Norwich suffering a classic case of second season jitters after being comfortable during their debut year, then who knows who will be safe in the Premier League next season and be an 'established Premier League club? I can't see anyone from the top half of the PL being interested in Deeney and all clubs from 11th place downwards are basically in a relegation scrap so Burnley would be as good a bet as anyone imo, particularly when you factor in Hull and Palace's seasons last year. Chuck Norris' Roundhouse
  • Score: 7

3:11pm Thu 3 Jul 14

llloydwithathirdl says...

Dyche hardly got the best out of Deeney the last time he was his manager.

I think he will go, but not to Burnley.
Dyche hardly got the best out of Deeney the last time he was his manager. I think he will go, but not to Burnley. llloydwithathirdl
  • Score: 6

3:12pm Thu 3 Jul 14

WatfordManiac says...

Watford rejected a 5 million pound bid for Deeney from Norwich last month and it is believed that Burnley bid 6 million this time around. If he goes I would like to see us get 8m+ and add ons including a sell-on clause (15-25%).
Watford rejected a 5 million pound bid for Deeney from Norwich last month and it is believed that Burnley bid 6 million this time around. If he goes I would like to see us get 8m+ and add ons including a sell-on clause (15-25%). WatfordManiac
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse says...

Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'.

What that means though I have no idea.
Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'. What that means though I have no idea. Chuck Norris' Roundhouse
  • Score: -9

3:51pm Thu 3 Jul 14

andyhooked says...

You do not probably watch these post Troy. Should you do so! We want you and we love you. Don't let people whisper in your ear. You could be in the Prem. with us soon.
You do not probably watch these post Troy. Should you do so! We want you and we love you. Don't let people whisper in your ear. You could be in the Prem. with us soon. andyhooked
  • Score: 9

4:14pm Thu 3 Jul 14

ralear49 says...

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
I would hate to see him leave but, if he does go, Burnley would be a good move for him. I hope you do stay up. Meanwhile, we'll be competing with Fulham, Wolves, Derby, Wigan, Norwich, Cardiff.... No problem there!!
[quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.[/p][/quote]I would hate to see him leave but, if he does go, Burnley would be a good move for him. I hope you do stay up. Meanwhile, we'll be competing with Fulham, Wolves, Derby, Wigan, Norwich, Cardiff.... No problem there!! ralear49
  • Score: 1

4:31pm Thu 3 Jul 14

exeterhornet says...

Would rather he stay but if we get 8 million and buy a decent replacement ( eg Graham ) for about 2 million then that is not a bad outcome. Whatever, my hopes for this season are fully refreshed.
Would rather he stay but if we get 8 million and buy a decent replacement ( eg Graham ) for about 2 million then that is not a bad outcome. Whatever, my hopes for this season are fully refreshed. exeterhornet
  • Score: 2

5:35pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole.
If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up !

Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat
So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole. If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up ! Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 0

5:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

rookeryroy says...

"Watford have signed striker Troy Deeney from Walsall on a two-year contract. The £500,000 deal includes an option for an additional year and a clause worth £150,000 for the Saddlers if Watford reach the Premier League. The 22-year-old scored 14 times last season but handed in a transfer request after several Championship clubs showed an interest in him."

Sounds familiar, just the numbers are bigger and Championship becomes Premiership.
"Watford have signed striker Troy Deeney from Walsall on a two-year contract. The £500,000 deal includes an option for an additional year and a clause worth £150,000 for the Saddlers if Watford reach the Premier League. The 22-year-old scored 14 times last season but handed in a transfer request after several Championship clubs showed an interest in him." Sounds familiar, just the numbers are bigger and Championship becomes Premiership. rookeryroy
  • Score: -1

6:02pm Thu 3 Jul 14

PozzoHornet says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole.
If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up !

Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat
Deeney isn't exactly an aerial threat either, is he? I mean, he's only 6 foot (not short, but not especially tall) and he can't jump that high either. 1 headed goal in 2 seasons tells that story really. Not moaning, just saying he's not the best header of the ball.
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole. If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up ! Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat[/p][/quote]Deeney isn't exactly an aerial threat either, is he? I mean, he's only 6 foot (not short, but not especially tall) and he can't jump that high either. 1 headed goal in 2 seasons tells that story really. Not moaning, just saying he's not the best header of the ball. PozzoHornet
  • Score: 4

6:17pm Thu 3 Jul 14

rayman01 says...

PozzoHornet wrote:
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote: So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole. If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up ! Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat
Deeney isn't exactly an aerial threat either, is he? I mean, he's only 6 foot (not short, but not especially tall) and he can't jump that high either. 1 headed goal in 2 seasons tells that story really. Not moaning, just saying he's not the best header of the ball.
Renegie does however carry an aerial threat so could be good partner for MV. As Deeney looking likely to go would like to see Graham or Ighalo. Plenty of attacking option plus most of our midfield score I.e. AA and LMcG. Still see us challenging for top six. Luv the Horns!
[quote][p][bold]PozzoHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole. If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up ! Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat[/p][/quote]Deeney isn't exactly an aerial threat either, is he? I mean, he's only 6 foot (not short, but not especially tall) and he can't jump that high either. 1 headed goal in 2 seasons tells that story really. Not moaning, just saying he's not the best header of the ball.[/p][/quote]Renegie does however carry an aerial threat so could be good partner for MV. As Deeney looking likely to go would like to see Graham or Ighalo. Plenty of attacking option plus most of our midfield score I.e. AA and LMcG. Still see us challenging for top six. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 4

6:19pm Thu 3 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole.
If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up !

Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat
Mickey, probably, but only if the purchasing club matches the valuation of WFC. Reading Troy's comments before he went on holiday - that would appear to be his understanding too. So it depends on that valuation, if £6m - he's gone, if £8m then 50/50, if £10m still here next season.

I hope you are wrong and my fears are ungrounded, but....

Saw in a Yorkshire based paper that Danny is available at £1m. I don't think, if Troy goes price is an issue. Wages and whether Danny wants to uproot the family again might be in which case Boro might be his preference.
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: So we've rejected a bid but there's no "not for sale announcement". Means he's on his way and we are just trying to get to the best auction price before selling. Will leave a massive hole. If he goes, hope he goes to Burnley and fires the goals to keep Sean up ! Graham and Vydra would be interest but not much of a physical or aerial threat[/p][/quote]Mickey, probably, but only if the purchasing club matches the valuation of WFC. Reading Troy's comments before he went on holiday - that would appear to be his understanding too. So it depends on that valuation, if £6m - he's gone, if £8m then 50/50, if £10m still here next season. I hope you are wrong and my fears are ungrounded, but.... Saw in a Yorkshire based paper that Danny is available at £1m. I don't think, if Troy goes price is an issue. Wages and whether Danny wants to uproot the family again might be in which case Boro might be his preference. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 1

6:28pm Thu 3 Jul 14

MainStandShambles says...

I wonder how much Troy's missus and kids will affect HIS decision (as opposed to his agent that is) in going to Burnley. Watford have allowed him to commute from Birmingham so he can live at home, would Burnley allow the same arrangement? The journey to each club is not that different (within 20 minutes of each other) so he may get his wish, if indeed he wants to go.
I wonder how much Troy's missus and kids will affect HIS decision (as opposed to his agent that is) in going to Burnley. Watford have allowed him to commute from Birmingham so he can live at home, would Burnley allow the same arrangement? The journey to each club is not that different (within 20 minutes of each other) so he may get his wish, if indeed he wants to go. MainStandShambles
  • Score: 1

8:00pm Thu 3 Jul 14

tonyevans22 says...

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'.

What that means though I have no idea.
Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.
[quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'. What that means though I have no idea.[/p][/quote]Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him. tonyevans22
  • Score: 6

8:20pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Vespa Crabro says...

MainStandShambles wrote:
I wonder how much Troy's missus and kids will affect HIS decision (as opposed to his agent that is) in going to Burnley. Watford have allowed him to commute from Birmingham so he can live at home, would Burnley allow the same arrangement? The journey to each club is not that different (within 20 minutes of each other) so he may get his wish, if indeed he wants to go.
Under ideal conditions there may be only about 20 minutes difference in the journey times, but I don't think many people would relish the thought of a daily commute up and down the busiest stretches of the M6. By rail it takes almost three times as long to travel from Birmingham to Burnley as it does Watford.
[quote][p][bold]MainStandShambles[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much Troy's missus and kids will affect HIS decision (as opposed to his agent that is) in going to Burnley. Watford have allowed him to commute from Birmingham so he can live at home, would Burnley allow the same arrangement? The journey to each club is not that different (within 20 minutes of each other) so he may get his wish, if indeed he wants to go.[/p][/quote]Under ideal conditions there may be only about 20 minutes difference in the journey times, but I don't think many people would relish the thought of a daily commute up and down the busiest stretches of the M6. By rail it takes almost three times as long to travel from Birmingham to Burnley as it does Watford. Vespa Crabro
  • Score: 4

8:44pm Thu 3 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

tonyevans22 wrote:
Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'.

What that means though I have no idea.
Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.
You are as subtle as p155 soup.
[quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'. What that means though I have no idea.[/p][/quote]Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.[/p][/quote]You are as subtle as p155 soup. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 1

9:53pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Watfordfc69 says...

If we are serious about promotion, then we have to keep this young footballer - Troy will not be easy to replace, talent comes this way very rarely.
If we are serious about promotion, then we have to keep this young footballer - Troy will not be easy to replace, talent comes this way very rarely. Watfordfc69
  • Score: 4

9:57pm Thu 3 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
tonyevans22 wrote:
Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'.

What that means though I have no idea.
Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.
You are as subtle as p155 soup.
May be the deal is close or not. Chuck is (assuming he is being honest - given his posts I suspect he is) reporting what is in the local press. May be Troy would be stupid going to Burnley, except they are a decent (well run) club and Sean is more than a decent guy. When Troy was interviewed in the WO, he stated that Dyche was the biggest influence on his career, so I wou
ld not rule this out. However, the chances are Burnley will be in a relegation battle (which I hope they win), but the likes of Villa, Newcastle etc have more chance of staying up.
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'. What that means though I have no idea.[/p][/quote]Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.[/p][/quote]You are as subtle as p155 soup.[/p][/quote]May be the deal is close or not. Chuck is (assuming he is being honest - given his posts I suspect he is) reporting what is in the local press. May be Troy would be stupid going to Burnley, except they are a decent (well run) club and Sean is more than a decent guy. When Troy was interviewed in the WO, he stated that Dyche was the biggest influence on his career, so I wou ld not rule this out. However, the chances are Burnley will be in a relegation battle (which I hope they win), but the likes of Villa, Newcastle etc have more chance of staying up. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 2

11:41pm Thu 3 Jul 14

matey_from_brighton says...

Would be a shame to see Troy go but I think people who expect him to stay are being unrealistic. He is 27/28 now and if he believes in his ability to play above Championship level this is his best opportunity and he would be foolish to not take it. I am sure his ideal scenario would have been to end up as our player in the Prem but as last year shows, it is very difficult to guarantee this. He had a great season last year but our play was a bit one dimensional at times and not enough goals from other players so maybe this would prove a blessing(who knows).

It is ironic though that the Pozzo business model has only so far really worked on a player that they inherited as opposed to their own "renowned" worldwide scouting system.

Good luck to him I say if he goes and I would rather he went to Burnley than (say) Palace for some reason.
Would be a shame to see Troy go but I think people who expect him to stay are being unrealistic. He is 27/28 now and if he believes in his ability to play above Championship level this is his best opportunity and he would be foolish to not take it. I am sure his ideal scenario would have been to end up as our player in the Prem but as last year shows, it is very difficult to guarantee this. He had a great season last year but our play was a bit one dimensional at times and not enough goals from other players so maybe this would prove a blessing(who knows). It is ironic though that the Pozzo business model has only so far really worked on a player that they inherited as opposed to their own "renowned" worldwide scouting system. Good luck to him I say if he goes and I would rather he went to Burnley than (say) Palace for some reason. matey_from_brighton
  • Score: 4

12:28am Fri 4 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

Would hate Troy to go, but no player is bigger than the club. Luther (who epitomises Watford) went and the next season we were at Wembley in a FA Cup Final. So as much as I love and respect Deeney, whatever happens Watford is bigger than any one player.

Ironic Burnley sold their iconic goalscorer in Austin and still go up, so not end of the world. still wish he stays however.
Would hate Troy to go, but no player is bigger than the club. Luther (who epitomises Watford) went and the next season we were at Wembley in a FA Cup Final. So as much as I love and respect Deeney, whatever happens Watford is bigger than any one player. Ironic Burnley sold their iconic goalscorer in Austin and still go up, so not end of the world. still wish he stays however. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 8

6:59am Fri 4 Jul 14

Tonytheaceman says...

If the Pozzo'a are serious about the Prem they need to resist selling top prospect players like Troy - I see this as their test of merit
If the Pozzo'a are serious about the Prem they need to resist selling top prospect players like Troy - I see this as their test of merit Tonytheaceman
  • Score: 1

8:51am Fri 4 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
Havana Club wrote:
If Leeds have received bids of around £10m for Ross McCormack then that is the benchmark for Troy. The Pozzos have already said how overpriced British players are and so hardly likely to be any more generous.

And it needs to be a clean sale, none of this imposing of the risk on the seller: £5m now, another £3m if we stay up, £x-y for goals and sell on clauses etc.... Fat fee, all upfront, buyer's risk.

Think Ranegie, at times, looked like he could be the replacement already, but will see. If Troy does go then I doubt it will be a snap decision. It would have been agreed and planned for since April when our season was formally over. All signings, including MV made since then have been with this scenario very likely.
Due to his transfer request Leeds have accepted £6 million for McCormack so I don't think it'll be anymore then £7-£7.5 million for Troy, why don't we just accept £7.25 million for Troy and go and buy McCormack for £6.25 mill? After all he's proven at this level and it seems inevitable that whilst Troy is happy at the Vic, the right offer will come in for him this summer. Like the majority on here I'll be gutted if he goes, but better to be pro-active than have him leave in August with little or no time to get a replacement in
Someone else mentioned you reporting tittle tattle as if it was hard fact. One thing is for sure though, Cellino is bad news for Leeds, and we should feel very relieved we have the Pozzo's.
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Havana Club[/bold] wrote: If Leeds have received bids of around £10m for Ross McCormack then that is the benchmark for Troy. The Pozzos have already said how overpriced British players are and so hardly likely to be any more generous. And it needs to be a clean sale, none of this imposing of the risk on the seller: £5m now, another £3m if we stay up, £x-y for goals and sell on clauses etc.... Fat fee, all upfront, buyer's risk. Think Ranegie, at times, looked like he could be the replacement already, but will see. If Troy does go then I doubt it will be a snap decision. It would have been agreed and planned for since April when our season was formally over. All signings, including MV made since then have been with this scenario very likely.[/p][/quote]Due to his transfer request Leeds have accepted £6 million for McCormack so I don't think it'll be anymore then £7-£7.5 million for Troy, why don't we just accept £7.25 million for Troy and go and buy McCormack for £6.25 mill? After all he's proven at this level and it seems inevitable that whilst Troy is happy at the Vic, the right offer will come in for him this summer. Like the majority on here I'll be gutted if he goes, but better to be pro-active than have him leave in August with little or no time to get a replacement in[/p][/quote]Someone else mentioned you reporting tittle tattle as if it was hard fact. One thing is for sure though, Cellino is bad news for Leeds, and we should feel very relieved we have the Pozzo's. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 2

9:23am Fri 4 Jul 14

Oxford-Away-1992 says...

Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Burnley fan here in peace.

Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal.

Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead.

And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger.

Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.
Good luck in the Prem!

My mate lives in Clitheroe so usually take in the Watford game at Turf Moor while I am up there.

Hey Ho still got the game at your friends from Ewood Park to look forward to.
[quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Burnley fan here in peace. Neither McCormack or Deeney are worth £10 million, and I think that £7-8 million including add ons will seal the deal. Rumours abound up here that Deeney is extremely keen on reuniting with Dyche and wants the move to go ahead. And as for the 'Passing them on the way up' comments - how original, apparently a dozen Championship clubs think the same. keep writing us off though - it makes us stronger. Good luck for next season with or without Deeney.[/p][/quote]Good luck in the Prem! My mate lives in Clitheroe so usually take in the Watford game at Turf Moor while I am up there. Hey Ho still got the game at your friends from Ewood Park to look forward to. Oxford-Away-1992
  • Score: 1

9:34am Fri 4 Jul 14

Oxford-Away-1992 says...

I really hope Deeney stays to form a partnership with Vydra, but as someone else said he is 27/28 so you cant deny him the opportunity to play in the top division if the chance comes his way.

If we were still in financial trouble I would be worried that we would be have to accept a p**s p**r offer. Hopefully IF he does go it will be for no less than 6 million quid.
I really hope Deeney stays to form a partnership with Vydra, but as someone else said he is 27/28 so you cant deny him the opportunity to play in the top division if the chance comes his way. If we were still in financial trouble I would be worried that we would be have to accept a p**s p**r offer. Hopefully IF he does go it will be for no less than 6 million quid. Oxford-Away-1992
  • Score: 0

9:38am Fri 4 Jul 14

1234566789 says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think.

May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term.

The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call.

As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that.

A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion.
Deeney signed a 3 1/2 year contract in March last year
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think. May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term. The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call. As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that. A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion.[/p][/quote]Deeney signed a 3 1/2 year contract in March last year 1234566789
  • Score: 2

10:17am Fri 4 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

1234566789 wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think.

May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term.

The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call.

As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that.

A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion.
Deeney signed a 3 1/2 year contract in March last year
Thank you for correcting me. In that case £6m not enough. £8m min imo.
[quote][p][bold]1234566789[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think. May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term. The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call. As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that. A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion.[/p][/quote]Deeney signed a 3 1/2 year contract in March last year[/p][/quote]Thank you for correcting me. In that case £6m not enough. £8m min imo. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 0

10:18am Fri 4 Jul 14

1234566789 says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
tonyevans22 wrote:
Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'.

What that means though I have no idea.
Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.
You are as subtle as p155 soup.
May be the deal is close or not. Chuck is (assuming he is being honest - given his posts I suspect he is) reporting what is in the local press. May be Troy would be stupid going to Burnley, except they are a decent (well run) club and Sean is more than a decent guy. When Troy was interviewed in the WO, he stated that Dyche was the biggest influence on his career, so I wou
ld not rule this out. However, the chances are Burnley will be in a relegation battle (which I hope they win), but the likes of Villa, Newcastle etc have more chance of staying up.
If you don't know the difference between "accept" and "except", I can't take you seriously.
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'. What that means though I have no idea.[/p][/quote]Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.[/p][/quote]You are as subtle as p155 soup.[/p][/quote]May be the deal is close or not. Chuck is (assuming he is being honest - given his posts I suspect he is) reporting what is in the local press. May be Troy would be stupid going to Burnley, except they are a decent (well run) club and Sean is more than a decent guy. When Troy was interviewed in the WO, he stated that Dyche was the biggest influence on his career, so I wou ld not rule this out. However, the chances are Burnley will be in a relegation battle (which I hope they win), but the likes of Villa, Newcastle etc have more chance of staying up.[/p][/quote]If you don't know the difference between "accept" and "except", I can't take you seriously. 1234566789
  • Score: 3

10:18am Fri 4 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

1234566789 wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think.

May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term.

The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call.

As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that.

A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion.
Deeney signed a 3 1/2 year contract in March last year
Thank you for correcting me. In that case £6m not enough. £8m min imo.
[quote][p][bold]1234566789[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Personally I hope Troy will stay. We need him. But everyone has their price. I suspect the offer we have had from Burnley exceeds that from Norwich City, which was £5m I think. May be I have this wrong, but wasn't Troy's deal, after he was released from prison for 2 1/2 years so runs out at the end of 2014/15. I don't remember an extension last term. The club needs to extend his contract if Troy is agreeable or from a valuation point of view he goes now. Selling him, however, may well undermine our promotion push and risks that we lose the Prem money if that happens. However, this is no guarantee we go up if he stays, this league is too competitive to call. As regards valuation, with one year left on the contract c £6m is probably about right, but with so many clubs interested that could be pushed to £8m. £10m+, I think is ott and as the Burnley fan says neither Troy or McCormack is worth that. A dilemma for the club... fingers crossed Troy stays and leads us to promotion.[/p][/quote]Deeney signed a 3 1/2 year contract in March last year[/p][/quote]Thank you for correcting me. In that case £6m not enough. £8m min imo. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 0

11:47am Fri 4 Jul 14

tommy gunn says...

I believe there comes a time when, for both player and club, where a players' stock' is at it's highest and time to move on, for the player higher wages and the club best possible deal. Unfortunately for us fans the time is right for Troy. Sorry to see him go but I think its inevitable. Good luck to him I've enjoyed watching him play.
I believe there comes a time when, for both player and club, where a players' stock' is at it's highest and time to move on, for the player higher wages and the club best possible deal. Unfortunately for us fans the time is right for Troy. Sorry to see him go but I think its inevitable. Good luck to him I've enjoyed watching him play. tommy gunn
  • Score: 1

4:15pm Fri 4 Jul 14

steve185 says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
£10-£12m. Not a penny less. Still, would prefer him to stay
are you joking he is average at best
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: £10-£12m. Not a penny less. Still, would prefer him to stay[/p][/quote]are you joking he is average at best steve185
  • Score: -2

7:41pm Fri 4 Jul 14

tonyevans22 says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
tonyevans22 wrote:
Chuck Norris' Roundhouse wrote:
Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'.

What that means though I have no idea.
Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.
You are as subtle as p155 soup.
Come on then Brains tell me how Deeney's career will flourish at Burnley,they have sent out a massive statement already by signing Sordell who could not even get in a struggling side at Bolton.Dyche is not going to sign players on massive amounts of money.The club have to spend big,not only on players but there ground as well.Dyche has already said they wont spend massive amounts.Hardly a statement of we mean business.Unlike the pozzo's who are putting money into the club,getting Vydra back and other signings.Burnley will not stay up with or without Deeney,And Burnley fans are known to turn against players and management very quickly.Deeneys pay packet will be better that is it!
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chuck Norris' Roundhouse[/bold] wrote: Being reported up here that a deal is 'close'. What that means though I have no idea.[/p][/quote]Total Rubbish mate,Bid rejected means Burnley can not talk to Deeney,only when Watford except a bid is he allowed to discuss the move etc..And No disrespect But Deeney would be stupid to go to Burnley. It is not an ambitious move in my eyes,he will regret it,plus it is a longer drive home to Birmingham for him.[/p][/quote]You are as subtle as p155 soup.[/p][/quote]Come on then Brains tell me how Deeney's career will flourish at Burnley,they have sent out a massive statement already by signing Sordell who could not even get in a struggling side at Bolton.Dyche is not going to sign players on massive amounts of money.The club have to spend big,not only on players but there ground as well.Dyche has already said they wont spend massive amounts.Hardly a statement of we mean business.Unlike the pozzo's who are putting money into the club,getting Vydra back and other signings.Burnley will not stay up with or without Deeney,And Burnley fans are known to turn against players and management very quickly.Deeneys pay packet will be better that is it! tonyevans22
  • Score: -3

1:15am Sun 6 Jul 14

bornyellow says...

reckon if Deeney decides to have a crack at the premier than let him...he has been a great striker for us........dont want him to go but he deserves to show his talent in the prem if he chooses....great player..
reckon if Deeney decides to have a crack at the premier than let him...he has been a great striker for us........dont want him to go but he deserves to show his talent in the prem if he chooses....great player.. bornyellow
  • Score: 0

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