Former Leicester City winger Lloyd Dyer scores first Watford goal in friendly win over SK Austria Klagenfurt

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Watford opened their pre-season campaign with a 1-0 win at SK Austria Klagenfurt this evening.

The only goal of the game came in the 26th minute when a fine pass from Sean Murray put new signing Lloyd Dyer through one-on-one and he duly beat the Klagenfurt keeper.

All five of Watford’s summer arrivals to date were named in the starting line-up and, perhaps significantly, there was a change in formation to 4-3-3 from the 3-5-2 that has been used for the majority of the past two seasons.

With Heurelho Gomes in goal, there was a new Hornets central defensive partnership as Gabriel Tamas and Craig Cathcart lined up together, while the returning Matej Vydra and Lloyd Dyer were either side of Mathias Ranegie in a front three.

Lewis McGugan and Vydra had opportunities before Dyer netted what turned out to be the only goal of the match when Murray released the former Leicester City winger on the angle and he made the most his chance.

Former Tottenham Hotspur keeper Gomes was called into his first serious involvement five minutes after the interval, making a good save after a Klagenfurt corner had deflected off the legs of Daniel Pudil.

Murray curled an effort narrowly over soon after before Pudil, now playing on the left of midfield, released his fellow Czech Vydra in another one-on-one opening, but he was denied by the home side's keeper.

A good Hornets 'debut' by Gomes ended with 11 minutes to go when he made way for 16-year-old Academy stopper Nathan Gartside as Watford continued to press for a second goal in the closing stages.

Watford: Gomes (Gartside 79); Brown (Doyley 46), Tamas (Hoban 46), Cathcart (Ekstrand 46), Pudil; Battocchio, Murray (Doherty 71), McGugan (Smith 56); Vydra (O'Nien 79), Ranegie (Fabbrini 46), Dyer (Jakubiak 64).

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8:55pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Family Cat says...

No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it
No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it The Family Cat
  • Score: -20

8:58pm Sat 5 Jul 14

HornetJJ says...

The Family Cat wrote:
No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it
Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything!
[quote][p][bold]The Family Cat[/bold] wrote: No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it[/p][/quote]Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything! HornetJJ
  • Score: 21

9:18pm Sat 5 Jul 14

mellow yellow says...

HornetJJ wrote:
The Family Cat wrote:
No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it
Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything!
No Abdi either. This means pretty much zilch.
[quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Family Cat[/bold] wrote: No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it[/p][/quote]Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything![/p][/quote]No Abdi either. This means pretty much zilch. mellow yellow
  • Score: 21

9:21pm Sat 5 Jul 14

QUINNPT says...

Exactly doesn't mean anything
Exactly doesn't mean anything QUINNPT
  • Score: 4

9:34pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...
If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up... The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: -12

9:39pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Dorset horns says...

No Anya deeney abdi or fessi don't read to much into it could be wrong but sannino would have wanted to see what the new lads could do
No Anya deeney abdi or fessi don't read to much into it could be wrong but sannino would have wanted to see what the new lads could do Dorset horns
  • Score: 15

9:56pm Sat 5 Jul 14

helGODson says...

Agree with 'Dorset horns' - looks like it was mainly to give the new guys a run out + game time for a few others - no Deeney, Anya, Abdi, Fessi, etc - probably being saved for the next/ tougher game - be interesting to see the bench, and who came on 2nd half though...
Agree with 'Dorset horns' - looks like it was mainly to give the new guys a run out + game time for a few others - no Deeney, Anya, Abdi, Fessi, etc - probably being saved for the next/ tougher game - be interesting to see the bench, and who came on 2nd half though... helGODson
  • Score: 4

10:00pm Sat 5 Jul 14

luther blissett says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...
Doubt we'll play 443 otherwise there was no point in signing Gomes........
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...[/p][/quote]Doubt we'll play 443 otherwise there was no point in signing Gomes........ luther blissett
  • Score: 38

10:00pm Sat 5 Jul 14

londomollari says...

Dorset horns wrote:
No Anya deeney abdi or fessi don't read to much into it could be wrong but sannino would have wanted to see what the new lads could do
Exactly. Wants to see what the new lads can do (Remember, they are Nani's signings---Beppe has probably never seen them). He has no need to see last seasons regulars yet. Probably wants to see what Ranegie can do leading the line in the event Deeney DOES go, As for Brown---well, I doubt he is going to be first choice---probably wants to see if it is worth keeping him, loaning him or letting him go.
[quote][p][bold]Dorset horns[/bold] wrote: No Anya deeney abdi or fessi don't read to much into it could be wrong but sannino would have wanted to see what the new lads could do[/p][/quote]Exactly. Wants to see what the new lads can do (Remember, they are Nani's signings---Beppe has probably never seen them). He has no need to see last seasons regulars yet. Probably wants to see what Ranegie can do leading the line in the event Deeney DOES go, As for Brown---well, I doubt he is going to be first choice---probably wants to see if it is worth keeping him, loaning him or letting him go. londomollari
  • Score: 1

10:27pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Insider jim says...

There is another game tomorrow, which is why not everybody played today, think you will find most that played today won't be involved tomorrow, nothing to do with players leaving or injured as most forums suggest,
There is another game tomorrow, which is why not everybody played today, think you will find most that played today won't be involved tomorrow, nothing to do with players leaving or injured as most forums suggest, Insider jim
  • Score: 7

10:30pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Insider jim says...

Insider jim wrote:
There is another game tomorrow, which is why not everybody played today, think you will find most that played today won't be involved tomorrow, nothing to do with players leaving or injured as most forums suggest,
Sorry Tuesday, not tommorow
[quote][p][bold]Insider jim[/bold] wrote: There is another game tomorrow, which is why not everybody played today, think you will find most that played today won't be involved tomorrow, nothing to do with players leaving or injured as most forums suggest,[/p][/quote]Sorry Tuesday, not tommorow Insider jim
  • Score: 2

10:32pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Insider jim says...

HornetJJ wrote:
The Family Cat wrote:
No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it
Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything!
Just means he will start on tues, along with abdi, fessi, anya, etc.. Or are they all leaving too!!
[quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Family Cat[/bold] wrote: No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it[/p][/quote]Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything![/p][/quote]Just means he will start on tues, along with abdi, fessi, anya, etc.. Or are they all leaving too!! Insider jim
  • Score: 2

10:39pm Sat 5 Jul 14

watford1881 says...

Whether Troy Deeney stays or goes.. Watfordfc will still be here.. Lets not worry too much about one single player whoever he may be.. Players have always come and gone.. This is football (as Abdi always says)
Whether Troy Deeney stays or goes.. Watfordfc will still be here.. Lets not worry too much about one single player whoever he may be.. Players have always come and gone.. This is football (as Abdi always says) watford1881
  • Score: 28

12:58am Sun 6 Jul 14

bornyellow says...

at this time of year the team needs to get fit, thats why we have pre season matches......the manager will need time to assess his options, formations, and player fitness....no one player makes a team.....what is important is that the team are super fit because this league is super tough..
at this time of year the team needs to get fit, thats why we have pre season matches......the manager will need time to assess his options, formations, and player fitness....no one player makes a team.....what is important is that the team are super fit because this league is super tough.. bornyellow
  • Score: 9

5:58am Sun 6 Jul 14

mellow yellow says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...
It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense.
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...[/p][/quote]It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense. mellow yellow
  • Score: 13

6:02am Sun 6 Jul 14

mellow yellow says...

mellow yellow wrote:
The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...
It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense.
I meant right/left backs as well as centre halves. And I'd rather see a back four with Pudil/Anya/dyer further forwards, than a back three where certain defenders look awkward. Belkalem, playing in a back four, made the Guardian's Last Sixteen XI in the World Cup.
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...[/p][/quote]It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense.[/p][/quote]I meant right/left backs as well as centre halves. And I'd rather see a back four with Pudil/Anya/dyer further forwards, than a back three where certain defenders look awkward. Belkalem, playing in a back four, made the Guardian's Last Sixteen XI in the World Cup. mellow yellow
  • Score: 9

8:49am Sun 6 Jul 14

SAHornet says...

Sounds like a good opening work-out. Stadium looks impressive. Well done Dyer on your first goal for Watford. First of many, I hope.
Sounds like a good opening work-out. Stadium looks impressive. Well done Dyer on your first goal for Watford. First of many, I hope. SAHornet
  • Score: 14

9:07am Sun 6 Jul 14

buckler says...

HornetJJ wrote:
The Family Cat wrote:
No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it
Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything!
It means they don't want him injured and risk not selling him.. Simple!
[quote][p][bold]HornetJJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Family Cat[/bold] wrote: No Deeney then, think we all know what this means! **** it[/p][/quote]Deeney was tweeting throughout whilst on the bench. So it doesn't mean anything![/p][/quote]It means they don't want him injured and risk not selling him.. Simple! buckler
  • Score: -15

9:11am Sun 6 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

mellow yellow wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...
It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense.
I meant right/left backs as well as centre halves. And I'd rather see a back four with Pudil/Anya/dyer further forwards, than a back three where certain defenders look awkward. Belkalem, playing in a back four, made the Guardian's Last Sixteen XI in the World Cup.
So... of our defenders, you'd have...

Tamas, Angella, Belkalem, Ekstrand, Hoban, Cathcart, Brown as our center backs.
Doyley as our right back.
Pudil as our left back.

I'd like you to be right (I'm not the biggest fan of the 3-5-2), but the squad is unbalanced for a 4-4-3... Even though Cathcart can play right back and Doyley can play left back.

I'm assuming Angella still has his spot. Belkalem proved his worth at the World Cup. Hoban's up and coming. Ekstrand's a perfectly good back up too.

So why on Earth would you sign Tamas and Cathcart? Why not sign a right back and a left back?
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...[/p][/quote]It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense.[/p][/quote]I meant right/left backs as well as centre halves. And I'd rather see a back four with Pudil/Anya/dyer further forwards, than a back three where certain defenders look awkward. Belkalem, playing in a back four, made the Guardian's Last Sixteen XI in the World Cup.[/p][/quote]So... of our defenders, you'd have... Tamas, Angella, Belkalem, Ekstrand, Hoban, Cathcart, Brown as our center backs. Doyley as our right back. Pudil as our left back. I'd like you to be right (I'm not the biggest fan of the 3-5-2), but the squad is unbalanced for a 4-4-3... Even though Cathcart can play right back and Doyley can play left back. I'm assuming Angella still has his spot. Belkalem proved his worth at the World Cup. Hoban's up and coming. Ekstrand's a perfectly good back up too. So why on Earth would you sign Tamas and Cathcart? Why not sign a right back and a left back? The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: -1

9:40am Sun 6 Jul 14

JohnnyHornet says...

watford1881 wrote:
Whether Troy Deeney stays or goes.. Watfordfc will still be here.. Lets not worry too much about one single player whoever he may be.. Players have always come and gone.. This is football (as Abdi always says)
I'm still grieving over Billy Jennings signing for West Ham, I'm sure we'll move on if TD goes and WFC will still be here long after we're pushing up daisies or blowing around as dust.
[quote][p][bold]watford1881[/bold] wrote: Whether Troy Deeney stays or goes.. Watfordfc will still be here.. Lets not worry too much about one single player whoever he may be.. Players have always come and gone.. This is football (as Abdi always says)[/p][/quote]I'm still grieving over Billy Jennings signing for West Ham, I'm sure we'll move on if TD goes and WFC will still be here long after we're pushing up daisies or blowing around as dust. JohnnyHornet
  • Score: 9

9:44am Sun 6 Jul 14

the sniper says...

443 formation?....intere
sting, no goalkeeper? Back four will have to play a fine line.Good to see some posters "know" thier football
443 formation?....intere sting, no goalkeeper? Back four will have to play a fine line.Good to see some posters "know" thier football the sniper
  • Score: 3

9:46am Sun 6 Jul 14

the sniper says...

the sniper wrote:
443 formation?....intere

sting, no goalkeeper? Back four will have to play a fine line.Good to see some posters "know" thier football
Can't spell! Meant to read: interesting and high line...DOH!
[quote][p][bold]the sniper[/bold] wrote: 443 formation?....intere sting, no goalkeeper? Back four will have to play a fine line.Good to see some posters "know" thier football[/p][/quote]Can't spell! Meant to read: interesting and high line...DOH! the sniper
  • Score: -2

10:08am Sun 6 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

4-4-3... TWICE. I feel like such a wally...

I stand by my point though... 4 at the back makes no sense with our current squad.
4-4-3... TWICE. I feel like such a wally... I stand by my point though... 4 at the back makes no sense with our current squad. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 3

10:13am Sun 6 Jul 14

Supporter in Spain says...

I see from the report that Fabrini came on at half time. I thought he had left.
I see from the report that Fabrini came on at half time. I thought he had left. Supporter in Spain
  • Score: 1

11:18am Sun 6 Jul 14

mellow yellow says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
mellow yellow wrote:
The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...
It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense.
I meant right/left backs as well as centre halves. And I'd rather see a back four with Pudil/Anya/dyer further forwards, than a back three where certain defenders look awkward. Belkalem, playing in a back four, made the Guardian's Last Sixteen XI in the World Cup.
So... of our defenders, you'd have...

Tamas, Angella, Belkalem, Ekstrand, Hoban, Cathcart, Brown as our center backs.
Doyley as our right back.
Pudil as our left back.

I'd like you to be right (I'm not the biggest fan of the 3-5-2), but the squad is unbalanced for a 4-4-3... Even though Cathcart can play right back and Doyley can play left back.

I'm assuming Angella still has his spot. Belkalem proved his worth at the World Cup. Hoban's up and coming. Ekstrand's a perfectly good back up too.

So why on Earth would you sign Tamas and Cathcart? Why not sign a right back and a left back?
I doubt Brown will be here. Pudil is better as a midfielder. Dooley and Cathcart can play outside of the centre. That means cover for injuries and suspensions. What if two get crocked early on in the season. It won't be the first time. Then factor in internationals, and it all makes sense to me. Much rather see 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 (with Fessi or Anya playing in the hole) than 3-5-2 anyway. It worked when it was unfamiliar, but far more hit and miss once other teams had sussed it.
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: If we're intending to play a 4-4-3 formation, why did we sign 3 centre backs, taking our squad total up to 6? Doesn't add up...[/p][/quote]It makes perfect sense when you consider one is very young and coming back from a year long injury, and two of the others can play as backs as well as halves. In zola's first season we suffered when both Nos and Hoban were injured, so having proper back up makes a great deal of sense.[/p][/quote]I meant right/left backs as well as centre halves. And I'd rather see a back four with Pudil/Anya/dyer further forwards, than a back three where certain defenders look awkward. Belkalem, playing in a back four, made the Guardian's Last Sixteen XI in the World Cup.[/p][/quote]So... of our defenders, you'd have... Tamas, Angella, Belkalem, Ekstrand, Hoban, Cathcart, Brown as our center backs. Doyley as our right back. Pudil as our left back. I'd like you to be right (I'm not the biggest fan of the 3-5-2), but the squad is unbalanced for a 4-4-3... Even though Cathcart can play right back and Doyley can play left back. I'm assuming Angella still has his spot. Belkalem proved his worth at the World Cup. Hoban's up and coming. Ekstrand's a perfectly good back up too. So why on Earth would you sign Tamas and Cathcart? Why not sign a right back and a left back?[/p][/quote]I doubt Brown will be here. Pudil is better as a midfielder. Dooley and Cathcart can play outside of the centre. That means cover for injuries and suspensions. What if two get crocked early on in the season. It won't be the first time. Then factor in internationals, and it all makes sense to me. Much rather see 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 (with Fessi or Anya playing in the hole) than 3-5-2 anyway. It worked when it was unfamiliar, but far more hit and miss once other teams had sussed it. mellow yellow
  • Score: 4

11:22am Sun 6 Jul 14

MainStandShambles says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
4-4-3... TWICE. I feel like such a wally...

I stand by my point though... 4 at the back makes no sense with our current squad.
You might have stumbled across something here Skeptical, maybe we're going to play 'rush-goalie', after all didn't we all grow up playing this way because none of us wanted to play in goal when we were kids.

Perhaps Gomes wants to play centre back but has agreed to be the rush-goalie when necessary.
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: 4-4-3... TWICE. I feel like such a wally... I stand by my point though... 4 at the back makes no sense with our current squad.[/p][/quote]You might have stumbled across something here Skeptical, maybe we're going to play 'rush-goalie', after all didn't we all grow up playing this way because none of us wanted to play in goal when we were kids. Perhaps Gomes wants to play centre back but has agreed to be the rush-goalie when necessary. MainStandShambles
  • Score: 1

1:59pm Sun 6 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

MainStandShambles wrote:
The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
4-4-3... TWICE. I feel like such a wally...

I stand by my point though... 4 at the back makes no sense with our current squad.
You might have stumbled across something here Skeptical, maybe we're going to play 'rush-goalie', after all didn't we all grow up playing this way because none of us wanted to play in goal when we were kids.

Perhaps Gomes wants to play centre back but has agreed to be the rush-goalie when necessary.
After Neuer's sterling performance for Germany against Algeria, perhaps we'll see a new dawn of goalie/sweepers across the footballing world...
[quote][p][bold]MainStandShambles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: 4-4-3... TWICE. I feel like such a wally... I stand by my point though... 4 at the back makes no sense with our current squad.[/p][/quote]You might have stumbled across something here Skeptical, maybe we're going to play 'rush-goalie', after all didn't we all grow up playing this way because none of us wanted to play in goal when we were kids. Perhaps Gomes wants to play centre back but has agreed to be the rush-goalie when necessary.[/p][/quote]After Neuer's sterling performance for Germany against Algeria, perhaps we'll see a new dawn of goalie/sweepers across the footballing world... The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 1

6:03pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Mooneyman says...

Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...
Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down... Mooneyman
  • Score: 0

7:47am Mon 7 Jul 14

rayman01 says...

Mooneyman wrote:
Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...
Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns!
[quote][p][bold]Mooneyman[/bold] wrote: Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 0

9:03am Mon 7 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

rayman01 wrote:
Mooneyman wrote:
Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...
Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns!
Ranegie may be built for the Chanpionship with no little skill but is he tough enough mentally?

With Fabbrini, he's clearly not the body type that he can put on two stone of weight. Hopefully he has done some strength training in the gym though as he does need to get stronger.
[quote][p][bold]rayman01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mooneyman[/bold] wrote: Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns![/p][/quote]Ranegie may be built for the Chanpionship with no little skill but is he tough enough mentally? With Fabbrini, he's clearly not the body type that he can put on two stone of weight. Hopefully he has done some strength training in the gym though as he does need to get stronger. Harry's Bar
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9:43am Mon 7 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

Harry's Bar wrote:
rayman01 wrote:
Mooneyman wrote:
Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...
Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns!
Ranegie may be built for the Chanpionship with no little skill but is he tough enough mentally?

With Fabbrini, he's clearly not the body type that he can put on two stone of weight. Hopefully he has done some strength training in the gym though as he does need to get stronger.
I am not going to say Ranegie's a perfect striker because he is not.

However, I'd say a good record for a striker is 1 goal every 2 games on average. And Ranegie scored 4 goals in 10 appearances (of which some were substitutes). So... Not great, but not bad either. If he's just a backup striker that isn't bad at all.
[quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayman01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mooneyman[/bold] wrote: Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns![/p][/quote]Ranegie may be built for the Chanpionship with no little skill but is he tough enough mentally? With Fabbrini, he's clearly not the body type that he can put on two stone of weight. Hopefully he has done some strength training in the gym though as he does need to get stronger.[/p][/quote]I am not going to say Ranegie's a perfect striker because he is not. However, I'd say a good record for a striker is 1 goal every 2 games on average. And Ranegie scored 4 goals in 10 appearances (of which some were substitutes). So... Not great, but not bad either. If he's just a backup striker that isn't bad at all. The Skeptical Optimist
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9:46am Mon 7 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
Harry's Bar wrote:
rayman01 wrote:
Mooneyman wrote:
Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...
Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns!
Ranegie may be built for the Chanpionship with no little skill but is he tough enough mentally?

With Fabbrini, he's clearly not the body type that he can put on two stone of weight. Hopefully he has done some strength training in the gym though as he does need to get stronger.
I am not going to say Ranegie's a perfect striker because he is not.

However, I'd say a good record for a striker is 1 goal every 2 games on average. And Ranegie scored 4 goals in 10 appearances (of which some were substitutes). So... Not great, but not bad either. If he's just a backup striker that isn't bad at all.
In fact, if he played all season with that record you're looking at 18 goals in the season.
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harry's Bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rayman01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mooneyman[/bold] wrote: Nice to see a squad where a manager can choose from numerous players & change formation using the flexibility of adaptable players. But, i do think we're going to be overloaded with centre halves, not sure how many will be comfortable with being Championship squad players. If we don't have injuries, I can see at least a couple going out on loan eventually. Renegie has done nothing to impress me so if we lose Deeney another striker is needed for the squad IMO. If we don't see Tozer again, I'd like to see a replacement, other than that this cynical old Hornet us actually feeling quite confident. There, I said it, I feel quite faint now, need to lie down...[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong with Renegie as he is built for the Championship with no little skill. More worried about Fabbrini's presence as he needs to put on two stone and not a TD replacement. Luv the Horns![/p][/quote]Ranegie may be built for the Chanpionship with no little skill but is he tough enough mentally? With Fabbrini, he's clearly not the body type that he can put on two stone of weight. Hopefully he has done some strength training in the gym though as he does need to get stronger.[/p][/quote]I am not going to say Ranegie's a perfect striker because he is not. However, I'd say a good record for a striker is 1 goal every 2 games on average. And Ranegie scored 4 goals in 10 appearances (of which some were substitutes). So... Not great, but not bad either. If he's just a backup striker that isn't bad at all.[/p][/quote]In fact, if he played all season with that record you're looking at 18 goals in the season. The Skeptical Optimist
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9:45pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Tropicola says...

I'm concerned that in the highlights for the SK Austria Klagenfurt game, Vydra appears to be fouled and is laying down injured when the goal is scored. Any news on that?
I'm concerned that in the highlights for the SK Austria Klagenfurt game, Vydra appears to be fouled and is laying down injured when the goal is scored. Any news on that? Tropicola
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