Fernando Forestieri stretchered off as Watford draw 2-2 with Shrewsbury Town

Fernando Forestieri was stretchered off at Shrewsbury Town. Picture: Holly Cant

Fernando Forestieri was stretchered off at Shrewsbury Town. Picture: Holly Cant

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Ten-man Watford conceded two late goals as they drew 2-2 with Shrewsbury Town.

The Hornets took the lead midway through the first half thanks to Cristian Battocchio’s goal and doubled their advantage early into the second period through Tommie Hoban.

But Fernando Forestieri’s injury with ten minutes remaining left them a man down and Scott Vernon added two goals, the second coming with one of the final kicks of the game, to end the contest 2-2.

The Hornets started in a 4-3-3 formation for their first UK-based pre-season game of the summer.

There were five new signings in the starting line-up, although three of those were familiar faces.

Heurelho Gomes, who joined Watford from Tottenham Hotspur, was in goal, ex-loanee Craig Cathcart was at centre half, Daniel Tozser was in front of the back four, with Lloyd Dyer wide right and Matej Vydra on the left of Troy Deeney leading the line.

Battocchio and Lewis McGugan were the centre midfield pairing in front of Tozser and Joel Ekstrand started alongside Cathcart, with Daniel Pudil and Lloyd Doyley at full back.

Almen Abdi missed out due to illness and Sean Murray is currently injured, after being forced off during their final match in Austria.

The first chance of the game went to the visitors in the seventh minute when Deeney knocked down a diagonal ball and McGugan’s first-time effort was held by Mark Halstrad.

McGugan was also involved in his side’s second attempt when his good play resulted in Tozser sending a low shot from distance wide of the post.

Watford were unable to build attacks for large periods as they often struggled to link the play between midfield and attack.

Often the Golden Boys opted for diagonal balls and Shrewsbury’s defence were not put under a lot of pressure for much of the first half.

Vydra and Dyer switched flanks early into the contest but the Czech Republic international didn’t touch the ball until the 17th minute when he was briefly put into the middle, with Deeney moving to the left.

And it produced an immediate result as Vydra created an opening, Deeney laid the ball off to Battocchio and his low strike from 15 yards found the far, bottom corner.

League Two Shrewsbury enjoyed a spell of pressure prior to the goal but apart from a wayward shot from distance and a last-ditch interception by Ekstrand, the Hornets’ defenders were relatively comfortable in the opening quarter.

But then a nice move from the home team ended with late replacement Jean-Louis Akpa-Akpro going close from 20 yards out.

Vydra offered little defensively and that was shown when the Shrews’ right back Jermaine Grandison bombed forward and sent over a dangerous low cross which had Gomes scampering across his goal.

The goalkeeper, who looked composed for large parts, also flapped at a cross during the period of Shrewsbury pressure.

McGugan was one of his team’s better players in the attacking third and some lovely skill allowed him to drive into the area and hit the side netting.

Shrewsbury almost equalised just before the break when Ekstrand was almost punished for some very poor defending when he allowed a delivery to run across his body on the six-yard box and Ashley Vincent was able to shoot. Fortunately for the visitors, his effort went over the bar.

Watford made eight changes at half-time, with Tozser, Battocchio and Gabriel Tamas – who came on for the injured Cathcart on 36 minutes - the only survivors.

Reece Brown was played at left back and Hoban was on the right as Sannino retained the 4-3-3 formation.

Diego Fabbrini was in centre midfield with Fernando Forestieri right forward and Ikechi Anya on the right. Mathias Ranegie was the centre forward.

The lead was extended early into the second half when Tozser’s free-kick reached the far post and Hoban struck a half-volley into the roof of the net from eight yards out.

A counter-attack minutes later led to another chance but Ranegie was unable to capitalise on Anya’s neat flick as he shot over the bar from the edge of the area.

Watford carried a much greater threat at the start of the second period and Anya forced substitute goalkeeper Callum Burton into a save following Forestieri’s pull-back.

Shrewsbury’s first opportunity of the half came when the unmarked Mark Ellis headed over from a corner.

The pace of the half slowed down slightly as there was another round of changes from the home team but then Ashley Vincent almost pulled a goal back in explosive fashion as his powerful shot struck the base of the post.

Watford went down a man down with ten minutes remaining when Forestieri was stretchered off.

Sannino wanted to bring Brown, who had been substituted midway through the half, back on but the fourth official told him that was not allowed so Watford went to a 4-4-1 formation, with Fabbrini on the right.

Three minutes later Shrewsbury pulled a goal back when Watford attempted an offside trap and Vernon was left free to lift the ball over the on-rushing Jonathan Bond.

Little happened heading into the final minutes but then the Shrews nicked an equaliser with one of the final kicks of the game.

The Hornets’ centre backs appeared to be pulled out of position and it was too easy as Vernon was able to score at the near post from close range.

Watford: Gomes (Bond HT); Doyley (Hoban HT), Ekstrand (Angella HT), Cathcart (Tamas 36), Pudil (Brown HT, Doherty 76); Battocchio, Tozser, McGugan (Fabbrini HT); Vydra (Anya HT), Deeney (Ranegie HT), Dyer (Forestieri HT).

Shrewsbury: Halstrad (C Burton HT); Grandison, Ellis (Ginnelly 74), Goldson (Knight-Percival HT), Demetriou (B Burton 82); Vincent (Gayle 74), Woods (Wildig 62), Wesolowski (Lawrence 62), Akpa-Akpro; Collins (Vernon 62), Clarke (Robinson HT).

Attendance: 1,893.

There will not be post-match quotes from Beppe Sannino as he was unavailable after the match.

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5:18pm Sat 19 Jul 14

HorshamHornet says...

OH NO, The late goals are still being leaked LOL
OH NO, The late goals are still being leaked LOL HorshamHornet
  • Score: 10

5:20pm Sat 19 Jul 14

VOReason says...

I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford VOReason
  • Score: 54

5:27pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Roger "Studs" Joslyn says...

More to the point - hope Forrest is Ok having been stretchered off.
More to the point - hope Forrest is Ok having been stretchered off. Roger "Studs" Joslyn
  • Score: 34

5:34pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Poppet Bear says...

The curse continues !!!! I know it's only pre-season but FFS (sorry).
The curse continues !!!! I know it's only pre-season but FFS (sorry). Poppet Bear
  • Score: 1

6:01pm Sat 19 Jul 14

JonBoy says...

Good to see that Sannino has had them working on conceding late goals
Good to see that Sannino has had them working on conceding late goals JonBoy
  • Score: 8

6:04pm Sat 19 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

Are we starting the next season with half a squad?! First Murray, now Cathcart and Forestieri... This is getting silly!

Not too worried about the result; friendlies from my experience have said very little about how we'll actually play when the season starts in the past...
Are we starting the next season with half a squad?! First Murray, now Cathcart and Forestieri... This is getting silly! Not too worried about the result; friendlies from my experience have said very little about how we'll actually play when the season starts in the past... The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 6

6:47pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Goldenboy1960 says...

WE CANNOT PLAY 4 3 3 WITH THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. DEENEY ON THE LEFT, IS HE GOING MAD!!! Well that's one way to make the players unhappy...
WE CANNOT PLAY 4 3 3 WITH THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. DEENEY ON THE LEFT, IS HE GOING MAD!!! Well that's one way to make the players unhappy... Goldenboy1960
  • Score: 3

7:01pm Sat 19 Jul 14

vag1 says...

None of this Vydra or Deeney out wide please! I'm not liking this 433 either. We would be much better suited to 442 or 4132. Big season for Beppe, felt the players let him down last season and feel he did enough to earn a shot this season, but he had to play Vydra and Deeney as a 2 if we are to be in with a shout of top 6. I would go 442 - Gomes/Parades, Hoban, Angella, Pudil/ Dyer,Abdi,Toszer,Any
a/Deeney,Vydra
None of this Vydra or Deeney out wide please! I'm not liking this 433 either. We would be much better suited to 442 or 4132. Big season for Beppe, felt the players let him down last season and feel he did enough to earn a shot this season, but he had to play Vydra and Deeney as a 2 if we are to be in with a shout of top 6. I would go 442 - Gomes/Parades, Hoban, Angella, Pudil/ Dyer,Abdi,Toszer,Any a/Deeney,Vydra vag1
  • Score: 21

7:30pm Sat 19 Jul 14

mellow yellow says...

vag1 wrote:
None of this Vydra or Deeney out wide please! I'm not liking this 433 either. We would be much better suited to 442 or 4132. Big season for Beppe, felt the players let him down last season and feel he did enough to earn a shot this season, but he had to play Vydra and Deeney as a 2 if we are to be in with a shout of top 6. I would go 442 - Gomes/Parades, Hoban, Angella, Pudil/ Dyer,Abdi,Toszer,Any

a/Deeney,Vydra
If he persists with a system that doesn't work, I think he will be jobless by December. But it is early days, and these games mean nothing. If you want to be concerned, then worry about injuries being picked up. What counts, results wise, are the games from Bolton onwards.
[quote][p][bold]vag1[/bold] wrote: None of this Vydra or Deeney out wide please! I'm not liking this 433 either. We would be much better suited to 442 or 4132. Big season for Beppe, felt the players let him down last season and feel he did enough to earn a shot this season, but he had to play Vydra and Deeney as a 2 if we are to be in with a shout of top 6. I would go 442 - Gomes/Parades, Hoban, Angella, Pudil/ Dyer,Abdi,Toszer,Any a/Deeney,Vydra[/p][/quote]If he persists with a system that doesn't work, I think he will be jobless by December. But it is early days, and these games mean nothing. If you want to be concerned, then worry about injuries being picked up. What counts, results wise, are the games from Bolton onwards. mellow yellow
  • Score: 11

7:54pm Sat 19 Jul 14

1234566789 says...

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
WE CANNOT PLAY 4 3 3 WITH THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. DEENEY ON THE LEFT, IS HE GOING MAD!!! Well that's one way to make the players unhappy...
No, it says Vydra played on the left of Deeney. Ie Deeney was in the middle
[quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: WE CANNOT PLAY 4 3 3 WITH THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. DEENEY ON THE LEFT, IS HE GOING MAD!!! Well that's one way to make the players unhappy...[/p][/quote]No, it says Vydra played on the left of Deeney. Ie Deeney was in the middle 1234566789
  • Score: 11

8:02pm Sat 19 Jul 14

rousman 2 says...

mellow yellow wrote:
vag1 wrote:
None of this Vydra or Deeney out wide please! I'm not liking this 433 either. We would be much better suited to 442 or 4132. Big season for Beppe, felt the players let him down last season and feel he did enough to earn a shot this season, but he had to play Vydra and Deeney as a 2 if we are to be in with a shout of top 6. I would go 442 - Gomes/Parades, Hoban, Angella, Pudil/ Dyer,Abdi,Toszer,Any


a/Deeney,Vydra
If he persists with a system that doesn't work, I think he will be jobless by December. But it is early days, and these games mean nothing. If you want to be concerned, then worry about injuries being picked up. What counts, results wise, are the games from Bolton onwards.
More like October I would say.
[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vag1[/bold] wrote: None of this Vydra or Deeney out wide please! I'm not liking this 433 either. We would be much better suited to 442 or 4132. Big season for Beppe, felt the players let him down last season and feel he did enough to earn a shot this season, but he had to play Vydra and Deeney as a 2 if we are to be in with a shout of top 6. I would go 442 - Gomes/Parades, Hoban, Angella, Pudil/ Dyer,Abdi,Toszer,Any a/Deeney,Vydra[/p][/quote]If he persists with a system that doesn't work, I think he will be jobless by December. But it is early days, and these games mean nothing. If you want to be concerned, then worry about injuries being picked up. What counts, results wise, are the games from Bolton onwards.[/p][/quote]More like October I would say. rousman 2
  • Score: -1

8:10pm Sat 19 Jul 14

jasonwatford says...

Have changed my mind on gomes as he played well and looks a decent keeper , Cathcart on the other hand I wouldn't give you the drippings off a tramps nose for him. Results really mean nothing in these games and I hope fessi injury id not bad as it looked a nothing tackle but he seemed in a lot of pain. We have to question Bond again for the first goal im afraid. We had chances to be 4 or 5 up but poor finishing from Ranegie and anya and fessi let us down.
Have changed my mind on gomes as he played well and looks a decent keeper , Cathcart on the other hand I wouldn't give you the drippings off a tramps nose for him. Results really mean nothing in these games and I hope fessi injury id not bad as it looked a nothing tackle but he seemed in a lot of pain. We have to question Bond again for the first goal im afraid. We had chances to be 4 or 5 up but poor finishing from Ranegie and anya and fessi let us down. jasonwatford
  • Score: -3

8:49pm Sat 19 Jul 14

EltonForever says...

Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please!
Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please! EltonForever
  • Score: 18

8:57pm Sat 19 Jul 14

mickallen57 says...

EltonForever wrote:
Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please!
I couldn't agree more Elton, come the start of the season I am sure we will be firing on all cylinders.COYH
[quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote: Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please![/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more Elton, come the start of the season I am sure we will be firing on all cylinders.COYH mickallen57
  • Score: 10

9:05pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Shrewsbury has a very nice town centre. I like Shrewsbury
Shrewsbury has a very nice town centre. I like Shrewsbury Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 19

9:43pm Sat 19 Jul 14

buckshornet says...

very sloppy defending in the last 10 mins as the game was won,1st goals we have conceded in pre season but disappointed as we should have killed them off long before but this is the time to learn what works and what doesn't for the players and beppe of course! Another ground visited watching the glory hornets.
very sloppy defending in the last 10 mins as the game was won,1st goals we have conceded in pre season but disappointed as we should have killed them off long before but this is the time to learn what works and what doesn't for the players and beppe of course! Another ground visited watching the glory hornets. buckshornet
  • Score: 2

10:17pm Sat 19 Jul 14

SimonW, Godalming says...

nothing changes - good players, rubbish manager - bye bye Sannino!
nothing changes - good players, rubbish manager - bye bye Sannino! SimonW, Godalming
  • Score: -26

10:27pm Sat 19 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 2

10:28pm Sat 19 Jul 14

EltonForever says...

SimonW, Godalming wrote:
nothing changes - good players, rubbish manager - bye bye Sannino!
Rubbish post, to be fair, Simon!
[quote][p][bold]SimonW, Godalming[/bold] wrote: nothing changes - good players, rubbish manager - bye bye Sannino![/p][/quote]Rubbish post, to be fair, Simon! EltonForever
  • Score: 18

11:06pm Sat 19 Jul 14

VOReason says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice .... VOReason
  • Score: 0

11:18pm Sat 19 Jul 14

SimonW, Godalming says...

EltonForever wrote:
SimonW, Godalming wrote:
nothing changes - good players, rubbish manager - bye bye Sannino!
Rubbish post, to be fair, Simon!
thanks, but anyone with half a brain knows this clown is not the right man to take us forward & I can get a million thumbs down but everyone knows its true!!
[quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SimonW, Godalming[/bold] wrote: nothing changes - good players, rubbish manager - bye bye Sannino![/p][/quote]Rubbish post, to be fair, Simon![/p][/quote]thanks, but anyone with half a brain knows this clown is not the right man to take us forward & I can get a million thumbs down but everyone knows its true!! SimonW, Godalming
  • Score: 4

11:36pm Sat 19 Jul 14

bornyellow says...

Sannino is a good manager....changing formations is clever....wait and see...
Sannino is a good manager....changing formations is clever....wait and see... bornyellow
  • Score: -2

11:40pm Sat 19 Jul 14

SimonW, Godalming says...

obviously - did you go to the last 5 games of last season?
obviously - did you go to the last 5 games of last season? SimonW, Godalming
  • Score: 0

11:47pm Sat 19 Jul 14

Havana Club says...

Only a friendly etc but it is still an exercise in forming a team for the season. Yet, the same late goals 'problem' again.

We've done well in building a team to go forward this summer, but defence has been our sore point for 4 or 5 years now, and the recruits at the back haven't been in the same class. I think we are short of a commanding Martin Taylor/ Eustace voice at the back, someone in the 89th minute who will just whack it into 'row z' because needs must.

You can score 2-3 goals every other game all you like, only disciplined defending and clean sheets will get any team up.
Only a friendly etc but it is still an exercise in forming a team for the season. Yet, the same late goals 'problem' again. We've done well in building a team to go forward this summer, but defence has been our sore point for 4 or 5 years now, and the recruits at the back haven't been in the same class. I think we are short of a commanding Martin Taylor/ Eustace voice at the back, someone in the 89th minute who will just whack it into 'row z' because needs must. You can score 2-3 goals every other game all you like, only disciplined defending and clean sheets will get any team up. Havana Club
  • Score: 6

7:13am Sun 20 Jul 14

endean2 says...

sounds as if Shrewsbury were a pretty good division 2 side

either that, or we were very average?
sounds as if Shrewsbury were a pretty good division 2 side either that, or we were very average? endean2
  • Score: 1

8:42am Sun 20 Jul 14

VOReason says...

VOReason wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
Having said all that we all screamed at first Zola and now sannino to play 4 3 3! Zola with the same 3 forwards at his disposal

Let's give sannino a chance with a full pre season and an improved squad to see what he can do.
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....[/p][/quote]Having said all that we all screamed at first Zola and now sannino to play 4 3 3! Zola with the same 3 forwards at his disposal Let's give sannino a chance with a full pre season and an improved squad to see what he can do. VOReason
  • Score: 4

8:49am Sun 20 Jul 14

bristol hornet says...

VOReason wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....[/p][/quote]Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!! bristol hornet
  • Score: -4

9:15am Sun 20 Jul 14

buckler says...

Sannino should have gone at the end of the season. Not worth wasting 3 months of the new season and then sacking him, because that will happen sadly!
Sannino should have gone at the end of the season. Not worth wasting 3 months of the new season and then sacking him, because that will happen sadly! buckler
  • Score: 7

10:01am Sun 20 Jul 14

harry uk says...

regardless of the score, sannino is not the right man for the job..
regardless of the score, sannino is not the right man for the job.. harry uk
  • Score: 3

10:30am Sun 20 Jul 14

Billie says...

VoR. I remember you as Cashton's lacky. Talking of MA he is back as CE of Oxford United. How can these clubs be so gullible!
VoR. I remember you as Cashton's lacky. Talking of MA he is back as CE of Oxford United. How can these clubs be so gullible! Billie
  • Score: 1

10:34am Sun 20 Jul 14

hornetsteve says...

buckler wrote:
Sannino should have gone at the end of the season. Not worth wasting 3 months of the new season and then sacking him, because that will happen sadly!
sannino did steady the ship last season, but that's all he did, I am one of the doubters if he's the right man, can he get this squad of very good players to gel, can he install a good team spirit, can he improve the poor discipline record we had last season, can he produce a wining run of results, can he improve our goals against, the vydra deeney partnership should produce 40plus goals if the team is set up right!! I would think there are some points targets set in the minds of the pozzos no pressure then beppe 20POINTS minimum from the first 10 games looks doable (6wins,3draws,1L,bur
nley only lost 5 last season!!) a good start is must this time around I think the pozzos want to get to the £130million prem sooner rather than later & who ever that coach might be i am sure will be well rewarded will it be beppe lets hope so those first 10 games are going tell us a lot, so good luck to beppe & the players you wont here any booing from me no mater what the results bring results
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Sannino should have gone at the end of the season. Not worth wasting 3 months of the new season and then sacking him, because that will happen sadly![/p][/quote]sannino did steady the ship last season, but that's all he did, I am one of the doubters if he's the right man, can he get this squad of very good players to gel, can he install a good team spirit, can he improve the poor discipline record we had last season, can he produce a wining run of results, can he improve our goals against, the vydra deeney partnership should produce 40plus goals if the team is set up right!! I would think there are some points targets set in the minds of the pozzos no pressure then beppe 20POINTS minimum from the first 10 games looks doable (6wins,3draws,1L,bur nley only lost 5 last season!!) a good start is must this time around I think the pozzos want to get to the £130million prem sooner rather than later & who ever that coach might be i am sure will be well rewarded will it be beppe lets hope so those first 10 games are going tell us a lot, so good luck to beppe & the players you wont here any booing from me no mater what the results bring results hornetsteve
  • Score: 5

11:19am Sun 20 Jul 14

robo bovingdon says...

What is the fuss about it is pre season lets get things right before aug 9th if we are still conceding late goals and dropping points like last season then start to get worried but till then let the boys and management sort it we will get a better idea against our friends from Udinese on the 2nd aug keep the faith come on you horns hope fessi is ok
What is the fuss about it is pre season lets get things right before aug 9th if we are still conceding late goals and dropping points like last season then start to get worried but till then let the boys and management sort it we will get a better idea against our friends from Udinese on the 2nd aug keep the faith come on you horns hope fessi is ok robo bovingdon
  • Score: 6

11:46am Sun 20 Jul 14

rousman 2 says...

buckler wrote:
Sannino should have gone at the end of the season. Not worth wasting 3 months of the new season and then sacking him, because that will happen sadly!
agree will be sacked before the end of October.
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Sannino should have gone at the end of the season. Not worth wasting 3 months of the new season and then sacking him, because that will happen sadly![/p][/quote]agree will be sacked before the end of October. rousman 2
  • Score: -1

12:01pm Sun 20 Jul 14

1234566789 says...

Not too concerned about conceding 2 late goals in pre-season after the formation changed and we dropped to 10 players. The whole point of these matches is to figure out the best formation and style to fit the players in the squad - this means changing it up and sometimes things will go wrong. So long as all is well by August 9th then it really doesn't matter.
Not too concerned about conceding 2 late goals in pre-season after the formation changed and we dropped to 10 players. The whole point of these matches is to figure out the best formation and style to fit the players in the squad - this means changing it up and sometimes things will go wrong. So long as all is well by August 9th then it really doesn't matter. 1234566789
  • Score: 12

12:14pm Sun 20 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

bristol hornet wrote:
VOReason wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!!
VOR on this occasion has 46 Thumbs Up.

I may be deluded but I think the club do take notice of what is printed here as things do change - for example the wide-held view expressed here in the past that it takes players with Championship experience to get us out of this division.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....[/p][/quote]Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!![/p][/quote]VOR on this occasion has 46 Thumbs Up. I may be deluded but I think the club do take notice of what is printed here as things do change - for example the wide-held view expressed here in the past that it takes players with Championship experience to get us out of this division. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 2

6:22pm Sun 20 Jul 14

VOReason says...

bristol hornet wrote:
VOReason wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!!
Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish?

I'm interested in your opinion!
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....[/p][/quote]Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish? I'm interested in your opinion! VOReason
  • Score: 0

7:41pm Sun 20 Jul 14

harrowboy says...

EltonForever wrote:
Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please!
Exactly, calm down dears!! Those calling for Beppe's dismissal by December or even earlier need to get a life. I could not care less if we lose all the remaining friendlies provided we start performing from 9th August.
Also Beppe has publicly stated that he wants to use different formations this season so let's not get too concerned about 442, 433 or whatever.
I do not think we will walk the league but expect us to comfortably make top 6, and if we achieve that I for one will be happy.
[quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote: Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please![/p][/quote]Exactly, calm down dears!! Those calling for Beppe's dismissal by December or even earlier need to get a life. I could not care less if we lose all the remaining friendlies provided we start performing from 9th August. Also Beppe has publicly stated that he wants to use different formations this season so let's not get too concerned about 442, 433 or whatever. I do not think we will walk the league but expect us to comfortably make top 6, and if we achieve that I for one will be happy. harrowboy
  • Score: 1

9:59pm Sun 20 Jul 14

lutondown says...

VOReason wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
VOReason wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!!
Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish?

I'm interested in your opinion!
Because he's potty
Ever once his alter ego Ilovebas got banished to Siberia and onto scaring crows in the West Country, he's not been the same. Poor Wurzel.
By the way bristols ( all two of them) a pint is waiting at the salon! :-)
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....[/p][/quote]Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish? I'm interested in your opinion![/p][/quote]Because he's potty Ever once his alter ego Ilovebas got banished to Siberia and onto scaring crows in the West Country, he's not been the same. Poor Wurzel. By the way bristols ( all two of them) a pint is waiting at the salon! :-) lutondown
  • Score: 0

10:16pm Sun 20 Jul 14

Billie says...

lutondown wrote:
VOReason wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
VOReason wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!!
Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish?

I'm interested in your opinion!
Because he's potty
Ever once his alter ego Ilovebas got banished to Siberia and onto scaring crows in the West Country, he's not been the same. Poor Wurzel.
By the way bristols ( all two of them) a pint is waiting at the salon! :-)
Lutondown has been on the sherbert
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....[/p][/quote]Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish? I'm interested in your opinion![/p][/quote]Because he's potty Ever once his alter ego Ilovebas got banished to Siberia and onto scaring crows in the West Country, he's not been the same. Poor Wurzel. By the way bristols ( all two of them) a pint is waiting at the salon! :-)[/p][/quote]Lutondown has been on the sherbert Billie
  • Score: 1

10:21pm Sun 20 Jul 14

lutondown says...

Billie wrote:
lutondown wrote:
VOReason wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
VOReason wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
VOReason wrote:
I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford
Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get.

I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win.

Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.
My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to:

We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle.

I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ...

Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ...

That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....
Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!!
Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish?

I'm interested in your opinion!
Because he's potty
Ever once his alter ego Ilovebas got banished to Siberia and onto scaring crows in the West Country, he's not been the same. Poor Wurzel.
By the way bristols ( all two of them) a pint is waiting at the salon! :-)
Lutondown has been on the sherbert
I have all weekend
Busted
But drink is my excuse...bristols has none. Just nuts
[quote][p][bold]Billie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: I know I 'll get a thumb down or 2 for this ... But conceeding late goals v league 2 sides is fairly concerning and not exactly a move away from last year's failings! #last minute.comwatford[/p][/quote]Congrats on the 30plus score you will likely get. I am bored sh!tl3ss hearing it is only an experimental side - that is like Jimmy Anderson bowling spin - what's the point of that. Play to win every game so the mind set is even if you are playing St Josephs Catholic Primary Souf Oxhey play you best formation and win. Good job we were not playing the usual Borehamwood fixture as they are getting stronger.[/p][/quote]My biggest issue is formation as others above have alluded to: We may all still be bitter about Rodgers back in the day, but given Suarez and sturridge he found a formation to play both through the middle. I'd expect both to replicate 20+ goals playing together as in 21/13 ... Playing wide in a 4 - 3 - 3 i would expect vydra to get 12 max or Deeney less than that ... That a a lot of goals to sacrifice ....[/p][/quote]Know-it-all Voice of Rubbish speaks again!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Explain to me and The other posters/ readers why my opinion is rubbish? I'm interested in your opinion![/p][/quote]Because he's potty Ever once his alter ego Ilovebas got banished to Siberia and onto scaring crows in the West Country, he's not been the same. Poor Wurzel. By the way bristols ( all two of them) a pint is waiting at the salon! :-)[/p][/quote]Lutondown has been on the sherbert[/p][/quote]I have all weekend Busted But drink is my excuse...bristols has none. Just nuts lutondown
  • Score: 1

8:40am Mon 21 Jul 14

Glenn Roeder says...

harrowboy wrote:
EltonForever wrote:
Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please!
Exactly, calm down dears!! Those calling for Beppe's dismissal by December or even earlier need to get a life. I could not care less if we lose all the remaining friendlies provided we start performing from 9th August.
Also Beppe has publicly stated that he wants to use different formations this season so let's not get too concerned about 442, 433 or whatever.
I do not think we will walk the league but expect us to comfortably make top 6, and if we achieve that I for one will be happy.
Exactly...we are so results obsessed in this country? On the national level I think that's why the England team never performs in tournaments because it is win at costs in every friendly game.

Surely its is far more important that the new players get integrated into the team and patterns of play and formations are developed in games where the result is not important.

Even on the Watford Mailing List, which tends to encourage far more level headed and less knee-jerk comments than this site, they are starting to over-analyse us letting in a couple late goals.

Yes it will be a concern if it continues into next season but in friendly games I don't care.
[quote][p][bold]harrowboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote: Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please![/p][/quote]Exactly, calm down dears!! Those calling for Beppe's dismissal by December or even earlier need to get a life. I could not care less if we lose all the remaining friendlies provided we start performing from 9th August. Also Beppe has publicly stated that he wants to use different formations this season so let's not get too concerned about 442, 433 or whatever. I do not think we will walk the league but expect us to comfortably make top 6, and if we achieve that I for one will be happy.[/p][/quote]Exactly...we are so results obsessed in this country? On the national level I think that's why the England team never performs in tournaments because it is win at costs in every friendly game. Surely its is far more important that the new players get integrated into the team and patterns of play and formations are developed in games where the result is not important. Even on the Watford Mailing List, which tends to encourage far more level headed and less knee-jerk comments than this site, they are starting to over-analyse us letting in a couple late goals. Yes it will be a concern if it continues into next season but in friendly games I don't care. Glenn Roeder
  • Score: 1

10:29am Mon 21 Jul 14

Goldentrue1 says...

EltonForever wrote:
Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please!
So true. I couldn't believe the posts I was reading on here about 'same old problem' etc when it is a pre-season friendly and results are not important!
There must be many clubs supporters in deep depression this weekend, Southend lost to Braintree, Bristol R lost to Bath, Arsenal scraped home against Borehamwood, Tranmere lost to Marine etc...

FFS it is a friendly, it is not important what the score was, it is important that things that are worked on in training are tried out, honed again after the match and then worked on again in the next friendly etc....
[quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote: Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please![/p][/quote]So true. I couldn't believe the posts I was reading on here about 'same old problem' etc when it is a pre-season friendly and results are not important! There must be many clubs supporters in deep depression this weekend, Southend lost to Braintree, Bristol R lost to Bath, Arsenal scraped home against Borehamwood, Tranmere lost to Marine etc... FFS it is a friendly, it is not important what the score was, it is important that things that are worked on in training are tried out, honed again after the match and then worked on again in the next friendly etc.... Goldentrue1
  • Score: 2

6:03pm Mon 21 Jul 14

SuperHorns says...

Goldentrue1 wrote:
EltonForever wrote:
Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please!
So true. I couldn't believe the posts I was reading on here about 'same old problem' etc when it is a pre-season friendly and results are not important!
There must be many clubs supporters in deep depression this weekend, Southend lost to Braintree, Bristol R lost to Bath, Arsenal scraped home against Borehamwood, Tranmere lost to Marine etc...

FFS it is a friendly, it is not important what the score was, it is important that things that are worked on in training are tried out, honed again after the match and then worked on again in the next friendly etc....
Spot on mate.

Those that are quick to comment on "echoes of last season".. what about the 7-0 win 2 weeks ago against SV Fieldkirchen, is that also a reflection to what our season will be? (ok maybe against Bournemouth at home)

Its a friendly and there are still a couple of weeks of training and prep yet.. Some orns need to get a grip.
[quote][p][bold]Goldentrue1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote: Lighten up, these are friendly matches, and an opportunity for the manager to give the squad a run out, while utilising different formations! Let's try to keep a sense of perspective over what is important in life, please![/p][/quote]So true. I couldn't believe the posts I was reading on here about 'same old problem' etc when it is a pre-season friendly and results are not important! There must be many clubs supporters in deep depression this weekend, Southend lost to Braintree, Bristol R lost to Bath, Arsenal scraped home against Borehamwood, Tranmere lost to Marine etc... FFS it is a friendly, it is not important what the score was, it is important that things that are worked on in training are tried out, honed again after the match and then worked on again in the next friendly etc....[/p][/quote]Spot on mate. Those that are quick to comment on "echoes of last season".. what about the 7-0 win 2 weeks ago against SV Fieldkirchen, is that also a reflection to what our season will be? (ok maybe against Bournemouth at home) Its a friendly and there are still a couple of weeks of training and prep yet.. Some orns need to get a grip. SuperHorns
  • Score: 1

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