Harry Redknapp claims Queens Park Rangers have held talks with Watford over Troy Deeney

Harry Redknapp wants to take Troy Deeney to Loftus Road. Picture: Action Images

Harry Redknapp wants to take Troy Deeney to Loftus Road. Picture: Action Images

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Queens Park Rangers manager Harry Redknapp has confirmed he wants to sign Watford captain Troy Deeney.

The R’s are one of several clubs interested in signing the 26-year-old and Redknapp claims talks have taken place with the Hornets.

“He’s a player that interests me," Redknapp said, as quoted by Get West London.

"The chairman [Tony Fernandes] has been talking to Watford but I think there’s one or two other clubs bidding as well.

"I think Burnley came and made an offer and Leicester too, so we’ll have to wait and see with that one."

Leicester City, Burnley and Swansea City have made official bids along with another Championship and Premier League club.

Everton and Norwich City are two of the other teams believed to be interested in Deeney, who scored 25 goals for the Golden Boys during the 2013/14 campaign and has netted 45 in the last two years.

However, the Hornets' price tag for Deeney has ended Burnley's interest, according to manager Sean Dyche. Read more here.

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12:56am Mon 28 Jul 14

Sahorn says...

£10m cash 'arry and I think Troy could be yours as long as he's promised regular first team football.

Thankyou Troy, wherever you go - and I think it's inevitable - you will always get a great reception back at the Vic ...
£10m cash 'arry and I think Troy could be yours as long as he's promised regular first team football. Thankyou Troy, wherever you go - and I think it's inevitable - you will always get a great reception back at the Vic ... Sahorn
  • Score: 22

5:30am Mon 28 Jul 14

robo bovingdon says...

Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.
Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM. robo bovingdon
  • Score: -36

6:14am Mon 28 Jul 14

VOReason says...

robo bovingdon wrote:
Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.
Every player has his price, every player is replaceable, every club sells if the money is right.

10 million for Deeney, a player whom the pozzos considered releasing for free 2 years ago amid calls for his sacking from many Watford fans, is in my opinion very good business
[quote][p][bold]robo bovingdon[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.[/p][/quote]Every player has his price, every player is replaceable, every club sells if the money is right. 10 million for Deeney, a player whom the pozzos considered releasing for free 2 years ago amid calls for his sacking from many Watford fans, is in my opinion very good business VOReason
  • Score: 56

6:28am Mon 28 Jul 14

Sydneyhornet says...

VOReason wrote:
robo bovingdon wrote:
Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.
Every player has his price, every player is replaceable, every club sells if the money is right.

10 million for Deeney, a player whom the pozzos considered releasing for free 2 years ago amid calls for his sacking from many Watford fans, is in my opinion very good business
Completely with VOR on this one. The points raised by Robo are just re hashing the same worries most have. The main issues here is that we are going to get 10 million for a players who's real worth is a bit less, and also, in my opinion a player who will score 5 - 10 goals per year in the prem...
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robo bovingdon[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.[/p][/quote]Every player has his price, every player is replaceable, every club sells if the money is right. 10 million for Deeney, a player whom the pozzos considered releasing for free 2 years ago amid calls for his sacking from many Watford fans, is in my opinion very good business[/p][/quote]Completely with VOR on this one. The points raised by Robo are just re hashing the same worries most have. The main issues here is that we are going to get 10 million for a players who's real worth is a bit less, and also, in my opinion a player who will score 5 - 10 goals per year in the prem... Sydneyhornet
  • Score: 8

6:52am Mon 28 Jul 14

endean2 says...

yes I too agree with the above comments, that's a first!
£10 m cash, grab it, we will learn to live with out Deeney and the
club needs to move on
Allow the manager to work out WHAT is the best team and the
resulting formation before the season starts.
yes I too agree with the above comments, that's a first! £10 m cash, grab it, we will learn to live with out Deeney and the club needs to move on Allow the manager to work out WHAT is the best team and the resulting formation before the season starts. endean2
  • Score: 5

7:07am Mon 28 Jul 14

tonyevans22 says...

Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?
Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone? tonyevans22
  • Score: -163

7:29am Mon 28 Jul 14

VOReason says...

tonyevans22 wrote:
Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?
So let me get this right, you peered into your crystal ball and came back with the revelation that Harry redknapp might want to pay slightly over the odds for a centre forward ... You genius!
[quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?[/p][/quote]So let me get this right, you peered into your crystal ball and came back with the revelation that Harry redknapp might want to pay slightly over the odds for a centre forward ... You genius! VOReason
  • Score: 89

7:34am Mon 28 Jul 14

Chariots says...

As much as we don't want to see Troy leave. I think the pozzo family deserve a little pay day for what they have given watford. Loads of free players and out of these players they hope to find some players to move on for huge profit to help fund more. We have been very lucky recipients of some great players abdi fessi et al. 10mill for deeney is good business for WFC and a good pay day for the pozzos. I think that is a very good balance for everyone.
As much as we don't want to see Troy leave. I think the pozzo family deserve a little pay day for what they have given watford. Loads of free players and out of these players they hope to find some players to move on for huge profit to help fund more. We have been very lucky recipients of some great players abdi fessi et al. 10mill for deeney is good business for WFC and a good pay day for the pozzos. I think that is a very good balance for everyone. Chariots
  • Score: 33

7:35am Mon 28 Jul 14

DuffmanWFC says...

Tony Evans he ain't gone yet but a team local to us that is in the prem that will pay stupid wages AKA QPR was always an obvious suggestion of where Troy could end up! No real inside cutting edge story there!
However QPR are in massive debt and can't spend £10M in cash until Remy goes.... Which may not happen now!
The problem for QPR is they will go down and if so they will be under football league scrutiny as they aren't adhering to financial fair play rules!
Would Troy go there? To play in a team that will struggle and he will get 5 goals for?
If Troy were to go it'll be a side that will be looking at mid table or more? Maybe Everton but they want Lakuku and they won't spend the cash we want and then Swansea and Burnley can't afford the fee!
At the moment the real scenario is no valuation met and no club is willing to meet it or can even afford it as the teams mentioned are also selling clubs with tight budgets!
Maybe Troy is better sticking with us and seeing what happens?
Either way I'm glad we are no longer giving our top talent away for peanuts and we have owners that are strong in negotiations!
I'd love Troy to stay and it's still a real possibility he will as at this moment in time he's our player and that's it!
Tony Evans he ain't gone yet but a team local to us that is in the prem that will pay stupid wages AKA QPR was always an obvious suggestion of where Troy could end up! No real inside cutting edge story there! However QPR are in massive debt and can't spend £10M in cash until Remy goes.... Which may not happen now! The problem for QPR is they will go down and if so they will be under football league scrutiny as they aren't adhering to financial fair play rules! Would Troy go there? To play in a team that will struggle and he will get 5 goals for? If Troy were to go it'll be a side that will be looking at mid table or more? Maybe Everton but they want Lakuku and they won't spend the cash we want and then Swansea and Burnley can't afford the fee! At the moment the real scenario is no valuation met and no club is willing to meet it or can even afford it as the teams mentioned are also selling clubs with tight budgets! Maybe Troy is better sticking with us and seeing what happens? Either way I'm glad we are no longer giving our top talent away for peanuts and we have owners that are strong in negotiations! I'd love Troy to stay and it's still a real possibility he will as at this moment in time he's our player and that's it! DuffmanWFC
  • Score: 35

8:00am Mon 28 Jul 14

EltonForever says...

Not another week of speculation and doom filled negativity of how our hopes for the new season will be affected if he leaves.

Please be positive - accept he is going and get on with it. Frankly, given that he wants away, the sooner he goes, the better.

One man never made a team - the occasional genius like George Best came close - and TD is no exception to that rule.
Not another week of speculation and doom filled negativity of how our hopes for the new season will be affected if he leaves. Please be positive - accept he is going and get on with it. Frankly, given that he wants away, the sooner he goes, the better. One man never made a team - the occasional genius like George Best came close - and TD is no exception to that rule. EltonForever
  • Score: -11

8:07am Mon 28 Jul 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

Tell Harry Wnker Redknapp to f off
Tell Harry Wnker Redknapp to f off SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: 3

8:15am Mon 28 Jul 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr...
QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr... SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: -56

8:18am Mon 28 Jul 14

Hornet Cornet says...

EltonForever wrote:
Not another week of speculation and doom filled negativity of how our hopes for the new season will be affected if he leaves.

Please be positive - accept he is going and get on with it. Frankly, given that he wants away, the sooner he goes, the better.

One man never made a team - the occasional genius like George Best came close - and TD is no exception to that rule.
When did TD say he wanted wants away? I might have missed something...

HC
[quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote: Not another week of speculation and doom filled negativity of how our hopes for the new season will be affected if he leaves. Please be positive - accept he is going and get on with it. Frankly, given that he wants away, the sooner he goes, the better. One man never made a team - the occasional genius like George Best came close - and TD is no exception to that rule.[/p][/quote]When did TD say he wanted wants away? I might have missed something... HC Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 15

8:26am Mon 28 Jul 14

mooneysmagic says...

Sydneyhornet wrote:
VOReason wrote:
robo bovingdon wrote:
Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.
Every player has his price, every player is replaceable, every club sells if the money is right.

10 million for Deeney, a player whom the pozzos considered releasing for free 2 years ago amid calls for his sacking from many Watford fans, is in my opinion very good business
Completely with VOR on this one. The points raised by Robo are just re hashing the same worries most have. The main issues here is that we are going to get 10 million for a players who's real worth is a bit less, and also, in my opinion a player who will score 5 - 10 goals per year in the prem...
Grant Holt scored 15 in the Premier and I rate Deeney as being better than him.
[quote][p][bold]Sydneyhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]robo bovingdon[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.[/p][/quote]Every player has his price, every player is replaceable, every club sells if the money is right. 10 million for Deeney, a player whom the pozzos considered releasing for free 2 years ago amid calls for his sacking from many Watford fans, is in my opinion very good business[/p][/quote]Completely with VOR on this one. The points raised by Robo are just re hashing the same worries most have. The main issues here is that we are going to get 10 million for a players who's real worth is a bit less, and also, in my opinion a player who will score 5 - 10 goals per year in the prem...[/p][/quote]Grant Holt scored 15 in the Premier and I rate Deeney as being better than him. mooneysmagic
  • Score: 8

8:27am Mon 28 Jul 14

Glenn Roeder says...

SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr...
Your joking right ???
[quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr...[/p][/quote]Your joking right ??? Glenn Roeder
  • Score: 13

8:32am Mon 28 Jul 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

Glenn Roeder wrote:
SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr...
Your joking right ???
No mate they are worse than luton town...would u great Troy in a luton town team...

Don't think so
[quote][p][bold]Glenn Roeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr...[/p][/quote]Your joking right ???[/p][/quote]No mate they are worse than luton town...would u great Troy in a luton town team... Don't think so SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: -21

8:32am Mon 28 Jul 14

Glenn Roeder says...

As I said about a week ago, Queens Park Rangers do worry me the most as they potentially tick a few boxes.

Disagree with others that they are relegation fodder (looking tight at the back with Ferdinand and Caulker).

Hope it doesn't happen but we are not a one man team.
As I said about a week ago, Queens Park Rangers do worry me the most as they potentially tick a few boxes. Disagree with others that they are relegation fodder (looking tight at the back with Ferdinand and Caulker). Hope it doesn't happen but we are not a one man team. Glenn Roeder
  • Score: 13

8:32am Mon 28 Jul 14

watfordjk says...

I know there's clever cash ways around it, but it still baffles me how a club in as much debt as QPR can even find a way of giving us 10 million. That's why the British game is knackered.
I know there's clever cash ways around it, but it still baffles me how a club in as much debt as QPR can even find a way of giving us 10 million. That's why the British game is knackered. watfordjk
  • Score: 30

8:37am Mon 28 Jul 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

tonyevans22 wrote:
Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?
I'm not sure anyone's bothered enough to eat humble pie, to be honest...

He's not even gone anywhere yet - and updated his twitter account to that effect: "just to check with the people congratulating me on my move, where have I gone and for how much? I need to tell my mum the good news"

However, even if this story said that he's off - which it doesn't - I guessed that QPR would bid for him; but like others have already said, that's nothing to brag about... so I haven't.
They've got money, Redknapp loves a transfer, they're local and they struggled for goals last year - it didn't take much to work out that they were likely to be in the mix.

People have mentioned about ten different clubs - and others have stated that he might not end up going anywhere!... so some of them will be correct.
[quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?[/p][/quote]I'm not sure anyone's bothered enough to eat humble pie, to be honest... He's not even gone anywhere yet - and updated his twitter account to that effect: "just to check with the people congratulating me on my move, where have I gone and for how much? I need to tell my mum the good news" However, even if this story said that he's off - which it doesn't - I guessed that QPR would bid for him; but like others have already said, that's nothing to brag about... so I haven't. They've got money, Redknapp loves a transfer, they're local and they struggled for goals last year - it didn't take much to work out that they were likely to be in the mix. People have mentioned about ten different clubs - and others have stated that he might not end up going anywhere!... so some of them will be correct. JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 9

8:37am Mon 28 Jul 14

Glenn Roeder says...

SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
Glenn Roeder wrote:
SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr...
Your joking right ???
No mate they are worse than luton town...would u great Troy in a luton town team...

Don't think so
No QPR are not my favourite club (remember their arrogant fans around the town centre a few years the last time they won promotion).

But not going to give Troy abuse IF he does go.
[quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glenn Roeder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: QPR Are total scum... If he goes to them then I would give Troy abuse if we played Qpr with Troy at qpr...[/p][/quote]Your joking right ???[/p][/quote]No mate they are worse than luton town...would u great Troy in a luton town team... Don't think so[/p][/quote]No QPR are not my favourite club (remember their arrogant fans around the town centre a few years the last time they won promotion). But not going to give Troy abuse IF he does go. Glenn Roeder
  • Score: 7

8:42am Mon 28 Jul 14

jasonwatford says...

So they haven't spoken with Troy as we haven't accepted a bid for them to do so , Fernandes looks like a cheap restaurant owner and I bet the pozzo are twisting him up in knots over this with might end up accepting 8 million plus Remy plus add on's !! Once a bid is accepted I bet you a couple of other teams will match the bid and come for talks
So they haven't spoken with Troy as we haven't accepted a bid for them to do so , Fernandes looks like a cheap restaurant owner and I bet the pozzo are twisting him up in knots over this with might end up accepting 8 million plus Remy plus add on's !! Once a bid is accepted I bet you a couple of other teams will match the bid and come for talks jasonwatford
  • Score: -3

8:43am Mon 28 Jul 14

rayman01 says...

Their bid for TD may have hit the rocks due to Remy not going to L'pool. Lots of twists and turns yet as even QPR must be desperate to reduce their wage bill. Luv the Horns!
Their bid for TD may have hit the rocks due to Remy not going to L'pool. Lots of twists and turns yet as even QPR must be desperate to reduce their wage bill. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 4

8:44am Mon 28 Jul 14

grahamwfc says...

Better a big fish in a small pond Troy. I just hope behind the scenes someone is working on a new contract to reflect his worth in his new status as Captain Fantastic.

I think if these negotiations with other clubs were ongoing we would have not announced that captaincy. Perhaps I'm just being optimistic but makes sense when no need to appoint just yet.

Of all the clubs mentioned he would be mad to join any of them except Everton and as much as I think Troy is a good player I don't think he is a Top 6 Prem player...........yet
!
Better a big fish in a small pond Troy. I just hope behind the scenes someone is working on a new contract to reflect his worth in his new status as Captain Fantastic. I think if these negotiations with other clubs were ongoing we would have not announced that captaincy. Perhaps I'm just being optimistic but makes sense when no need to appoint just yet. Of all the clubs mentioned he would be mad to join any of them except Everton and as much as I think Troy is a good player I don't think he is a Top 6 Prem player...........yet ! grahamwfc
  • Score: -2

8:55am Mon 28 Jul 14

Harrydownunder says...

anyone but QPR Troy.
anyone but QPR Troy. Harrydownunder
  • Score: 6

8:57am Mon 28 Jul 14

yellowvoice says...

Er, sorry QPR but Deeney has just said he is 100% staying at Watford so can QPR and other Watford supporters please get used to that!
Er, sorry QPR but Deeney has just said he is 100% staying at Watford so can QPR and other Watford supporters please get used to that! yellowvoice
  • Score: 10

9:09am Mon 28 Jul 14

corbindallas says...

Remy deal off official so surely untill Remy is gone Deeney will not be a QPR target, or am I just clutching at straws he will stay?
Remy deal off official so surely untill Remy is gone Deeney will not be a QPR target, or am I just clutching at straws he will stay? corbindallas
  • Score: 6

9:33am Mon 28 Jul 14

Abbotshorn says...

Unfortunate thing is that when Harry goes after a player , he normally get them. Normally at a higher price but always get them
Unfortunate thing is that when Harry goes after a player , he normally get them. Normally at a higher price but always get them Abbotshorn
  • Score: 0

9:37am Mon 28 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

yellowvoice wrote:
Er, sorry QPR but Deeney has just said he is 100% staying at Watford so can QPR and other Watford supporters please get used to that!
Allegedly he said this to a fan at St.Albans on Saturday and this was tweeted by the club and fan, who knows he may yet stay! SJM......... as for giving him abuse if he came back whatever the shirt. GROW UP will you man
[quote][p][bold]yellowvoice[/bold] wrote: Er, sorry QPR but Deeney has just said he is 100% staying at Watford so can QPR and other Watford supporters please get used to that![/p][/quote]Allegedly he said this to a fan at St.Albans on Saturday and this was tweeted by the club and fan, who knows he may yet stay! SJM......... as for giving him abuse if he came back whatever the shirt. GROW UP will you man lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 10

9:45am Mon 28 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

tonyevans22 wrote:
Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?
It won't be QPR, their skint and are even having to do a player +cash deal to get Fer from Norwich, I think Troy will stay at the Vic. There you go Tony, you heard it heard here 1st ya c0ck!
[quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?[/p][/quote]It won't be QPR, their skint and are even having to do a player +cash deal to get Fer from Norwich, I think Troy will stay at the Vic. There you go Tony, you heard it heard here 1st ya c0ck! lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 9

9:51am Mon 28 Jul 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers
Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 7

10:16am Mon 28 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers
Knowing QPR it'll be monthly direct debits!
[quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers[/p][/quote]Knowing QPR it'll be monthly direct debits! lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 3

10:21am Mon 28 Jul 14

HornetJJ says...

Please not to QPR!! Anyway why would Troy leave to go to a similar size club as our with less ambition. He may as well stay at Watford for one more season and play in the Prem with us!
Please not to QPR!! Anyway why would Troy leave to go to a similar size club as our with less ambition. He may as well stay at Watford for one more season and play in the Prem with us! HornetJJ
  • Score: 5

10:27am Mon 28 Jul 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers
Well he's got his own taste of that particular bottle of medicine, because Remy's now been outed as having failed a medical so his value will plummet if he still wants out

I don't agree with either transfers OR medicals being conducted overtly through the press - it's all a bit manipulative for me - but Harry had that coming
[quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers[/p][/quote]Well he's got his own taste of that particular bottle of medicine, because Remy's now been outed as having failed a medical so his value will plummet if he still wants out I don't agree with either transfers OR medicals being conducted overtly through the press - it's all a bit manipulative for me - but Harry had that coming JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 4

10:39am Mon 28 Jul 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

JohnnyBarnes wrote:
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers
Well he's got his own taste of that particular bottle of medicine, because Remy's now been outed as having failed a medical so his value will plummet if he still wants out

I don't agree with either transfers OR medicals being conducted overtly through the press - it's all a bit manipulative for me - but Harry had that coming
Lets face facts Harry Redknapp is a C--t

He is the most overrated manager in our time,I only said I would boo Troy if he played for that scum Qpr...

Would Man utd fans chant abuse to Wayne Rooney if he went to man city,what is the difference?
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyBarnes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers[/p][/quote]Well he's got his own taste of that particular bottle of medicine, because Remy's now been outed as having failed a medical so his value will plummet if he still wants out I don't agree with either transfers OR medicals being conducted overtly through the press - it's all a bit manipulative for me - but Harry had that coming[/p][/quote]Lets face facts Harry Redknapp is a C--t He is the most overrated manager in our time,I only said I would boo Troy if he played for that scum Qpr... Would Man utd fans chant abuse to Wayne Rooney if he went to man city,what is the difference? SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: -3

11:01am Mon 28 Jul 14

stiffler99 says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers
Knowing QPR it'll be monthly direct debits!
direct debits from the dog's bank account??
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: Why is Redknapp allowed to always talk about other clubs players and unsettle them...? If it is QPR, I hope the Horns make sure they get all the cash up front as QPR will be in financial s41te soon and end up not paying in full for all their pending transfers[/p][/quote]Knowing QPR it'll be monthly direct debits![/p][/quote]direct debits from the dog's bank account?? stiffler99
  • Score: 6

11:10am Mon 28 Jul 14

JohnnyHornet says...

Sahorn wrote:
£10m cash 'arry and I think Troy could be yours as long as he's promised regular first team football.

Thankyou Troy, wherever you go - and I think it's inevitable - you will always get a great reception back at the Vic ...
One bit of good news for this case is that Loic Remy's move to Liverpool is off as he failed the medical, let's hope that ends QPhaha's interest.
[quote][p][bold]Sahorn[/bold] wrote: £10m cash 'arry and I think Troy could be yours as long as he's promised regular first team football. Thankyou Troy, wherever you go - and I think it's inevitable - you will always get a great reception back at the Vic ...[/p][/quote]One bit of good news for this case is that Loic Remy's move to Liverpool is off as he failed the medical, let's hope that ends QPhaha's interest. JohnnyHornet
  • Score: 2

11:11am Mon 28 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

I think this is a win win situation for Watford. If Troy stays, we have a player who scores 20 goals a season at this level and helped in 2012/13 create 20 for his strike partner. He is the captain and plays for a club whose owners appreciate and value his contribution - to the value of £10m or so - and supported him (after some deliberation) at the lowest point of his life and career. Deeney has shown no deep to desire to leave, I think his head probably says one thing his heart another.

If he goes, we can dictate terms (first time in ages), e.g amount, cash etc. Given QPR's precarious financial situation, if me, I would demand cash upfront.

Also we can finally pay off the final instalments of the bonds - to Fransen I believe - that puts the whole sorry Simpson/ Russos/ Ashcroft/ Bassini fiasco behind us - for good. A clean slate.

With financial fair play coming in this will put us in a great position, regardless if promoted or not. We will still have £5-6m and possibly more to buy a replacement if needed. Alternatively a substantial portion of the cost of the new stand can be covered.

Hopefully Troy stays, but I for one do not begrudge him a shot at the big time even if with QPR. I would not give him grief if/when he played for the opposition whoever they may be. I might not applaud him however depending on the destination.

Nice for us to be in the driving seat instead of selling to meet the wages/ VAT, running costs etc. Regardless of the footballing strategy - of which we all have differing views - this is the true value of having people like the Pozzos in charge.
I think this is a win win situation for Watford. If Troy stays, we have a player who scores 20 goals a season at this level and helped in 2012/13 create 20 for his strike partner. He is the captain and plays for a club whose owners appreciate and value his contribution - to the value of £10m or so - and supported him (after some deliberation) at the lowest point of his life and career. Deeney has shown no deep to desire to leave, I think his head probably says one thing his heart another. If he goes, we can dictate terms (first time in ages), e.g amount, cash etc. Given QPR's precarious financial situation, if me, I would demand cash upfront. Also we can finally pay off the final instalments of the bonds - to Fransen I believe - that puts the whole sorry Simpson/ Russos/ Ashcroft/ Bassini fiasco behind us - for good. A clean slate. With financial fair play coming in this will put us in a great position, regardless if promoted or not. We will still have £5-6m and possibly more to buy a replacement if needed. Alternatively a substantial portion of the cost of the new stand can be covered. Hopefully Troy stays, but I for one do not begrudge him a shot at the big time even if with QPR. I would not give him grief if/when he played for the opposition whoever they may be. I might not applaud him however depending on the destination. Nice for us to be in the driving seat instead of selling to meet the wages/ VAT, running costs etc. Regardless of the footballing strategy - of which we all have differing views - this is the true value of having people like the Pozzos in charge. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 10

11:47am Mon 28 Jul 14

Drewoneone says...

Can't believe Redknapp even knows who Troy is. He's been winging it as a manager for years and needs Chairmen with more money than brain cells to make him look a half decent manager. He nearly managed to c**k up promotion last season despite having more money available than everyone except Real Madrid. He was bailed out by a last minute goal by Zamora in the play off final who couldn't miss after a gift from Derby's defence. To think he could have been England manager is so funny (mind you we got Hodgson who has succeeded in taking England to 20th in the world rankings - what berks they are at the FA!).

QPR are in a financial mess which will be temporarily masked by the PL money. When they get relegated again and the parachute money runs out they could end up as another Pompey (who started the rot there I wonder??) or Leeds.

With the Remy fiasco (how did he pass a medical at QPR?), I wouldn't be surprised if QPR drop out of the pursuit of Troy. That will be another one off the list and not many more takers left.

Well done the Pozzos (again) - we either get ridiculous money for Troy or he stays to help us go up!
Can't believe Redknapp even knows who Troy is. He's been winging it as a manager for years and needs Chairmen with more money than brain cells to make him look a half decent manager. He nearly managed to c**k up promotion last season despite having more money available than everyone except Real Madrid. He was bailed out by a last minute goal by Zamora in the play off final who couldn't miss after a gift from Derby's defence. To think he could have been England manager is so funny (mind you we got Hodgson who has succeeded in taking England to 20th in the world rankings - what berks they are at the FA!). QPR are in a financial mess which will be temporarily masked by the PL money. When they get relegated again and the parachute money runs out they could end up as another Pompey (who started the rot there I wonder??) or Leeds. With the Remy fiasco (how did he pass a medical at QPR?), I wouldn't be surprised if QPR drop out of the pursuit of Troy. That will be another one off the list and not many more takers left. Well done the Pozzos (again) - we either get ridiculous money for Troy or he stays to help us go up! Drewoneone
  • Score: 16

12:08pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Goldentrue1 says...

robo bovingdon wrote:
Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.
Yes we are a selling club still! The Pozzos run the business properly and are not just exceptionally rich benefactors with the club as a plaything.
Every club bar a handful is a selling club, player trading will always be very important to balance the books and survive, and taking punts on hopefully getting promotion is not the way to run a football club.

Two years ago we would not have envisaged how well Troy has done. Danny Graham and Marvin Sordell kept him out of the front two. If Troy goes, at the right price, someone else will step up and hopefully the goals will come from elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]robo bovingdon[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the Pozzo family ask for at least £10 million as the loss of Troys goals will cost the club a lot more if we miss promotion again.Are we still a selling club AND are the family really serious about the PREM.[/p][/quote]Yes we are a selling club still! The Pozzos run the business properly and are not just exceptionally rich benefactors with the club as a plaything. Every club bar a handful is a selling club, player trading will always be very important to balance the books and survive, and taking punts on hopefully getting promotion is not the way to run a football club. Two years ago we would not have envisaged how well Troy has done. Danny Graham and Marvin Sordell kept him out of the front two. If Troy goes, at the right price, someone else will step up and hopefully the goals will come from elsewhere. Goldentrue1
  • Score: 5

12:51pm Mon 28 Jul 14

only5foot3 says...

unlike redknapp to conduct his transfer dealings through the press
unlike redknapp to conduct his transfer dealings through the press only5foot3
  • Score: 10

5:06pm Mon 28 Jul 14

allgood says...

He will stay. We want £10 million, No club will pay that for a squad player.
Only a couple of premier league sides would guarantee him a starting place and they can't afford to pay the figure.
He will stay. We want £10 million, No club will pay that for a squad player. Only a couple of premier league sides would guarantee him a starting place and they can't afford to pay the figure. allgood
  • Score: 0

5:14pm Mon 28 Jul 14

corbindallas says...

Seems that QPR are out with Remy back as Rednapp just gave a interview on Sky saying Liverpools lose is QPR's gain, also saying Liverpool are lying re the medical, guess he will never want to sign a Liverpool player with comments like that! So Everton seem the only plausabile club but will not offer first team so over to you Troy money or football I'm afraid, tought choice!
Seems that QPR are out with Remy back as Rednapp just gave a interview on Sky saying Liverpools lose is QPR's gain, also saying Liverpool are lying re the medical, guess he will never want to sign a Liverpool player with comments like that! So Everton seem the only plausabile club but will not offer first team so over to you Troy money or football I'm afraid, tought choice! corbindallas
  • Score: 0

6:06pm Mon 28 Jul 14

oldyella says...

Troy, if you go mate, you'll be number 2 to Remy. The fans love you; the manager does now he's made you Captain. Don't bother - stay where you're loved and feed off Vydra for another successful season.
Troy, if you go mate, you'll be number 2 to Remy. The fans love you; the manager does now he's made you Captain. Don't bother - stay where you're loved and feed off Vydra for another successful season. oldyella
  • Score: 2

7:21pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Roger "Studs" Joslyn says...

On a slightly different note, if Deeney does go and I sincerely hope he doesn't will Walsall get a slice of the cash by way of a sell on.
On a slightly different note, if Deeney does go and I sincerely hope he doesn't will Walsall get a slice of the cash by way of a sell on. Roger "Studs" Joslyn
  • Score: 0

7:50pm Mon 28 Jul 14

3.45 t-crew says...

to all those clubs who are after troy- hes rubbish,hasnt scored in pre season,go and buy someone else!!
to all those clubs who are after troy- hes rubbish,hasnt scored in pre season,go and buy someone else!! 3.45 t-crew
  • Score: 1

8:28pm Mon 28 Jul 14

AlanMayeshasscored says...

Anyone who thinks the Pozzos are going to spend any of Troys transfer fee are wrong, it's not the way they operate.
We won't as supporters get anything out of this, they will pay wages but that's all. We might get a couple of loans or free transfers but that £10m will not do us or the club any good at all, get used to it.
Anyone who thinks the Pozzos are going to spend any of Troys transfer fee are wrong, it's not the way they operate. We won't as supporters get anything out of this, they will pay wages but that's all. We might get a couple of loans or free transfers but that £10m will not do us or the club any good at all, get used to it. AlanMayeshasscored
  • Score: -2

8:32pm Mon 28 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Roger "Studs" Joslyn wrote:
On a slightly different note, if Deeney does go and I sincerely hope he doesn't will Walsall get a slice of the cash by way of a sell on.
I think someone posted on here sometime ago that Walsall have a 15% sell on fee, not sure though
[quote][p][bold]Roger "Studs" Joslyn[/bold] wrote: On a slightly different note, if Deeney does go and I sincerely hope he doesn't will Walsall get a slice of the cash by way of a sell on.[/p][/quote]I think someone posted on here sometime ago that Walsall have a 15% sell on fee, not sure though lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 0

8:45pm Mon 28 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

AlanMayeshasscored wrote:
Anyone who thinks the Pozzos are going to spend any of Troys transfer fee are wrong, it's not the way they operate.
We won't as supporters get anything out of this, they will pay wages but that's all. We might get a couple of loans or free transfers but that £10m will not do us or the club any good at all, get used to it.
Yeah right cos all the Pozzo's have done since they've been here is take, take, take right? You Numpty
[quote][p][bold]AlanMayeshasscored[/bold] wrote: Anyone who thinks the Pozzos are going to spend any of Troys transfer fee are wrong, it's not the way they operate. We won't as supporters get anything out of this, they will pay wages but that's all. We might get a couple of loans or free transfers but that £10m will not do us or the club any good at all, get used to it.[/p][/quote]Yeah right cos all the Pozzo's have done since they've been here is take, take, take right? You Numpty lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 5

9:05pm Mon 28 Jul 14

matey_from_brighton says...

AlanMayeshasscored wrote:
Anyone who thinks the Pozzos are going to spend any of Troys transfer fee are wrong, it's not the way they operate.
We won't as supporters get anything out of this, they will pay wages but that's all. We might get a couple of loans or free transfers but that £10m will not do us or the club any good at all, get used to it.
you may be right to a point, but at some point they are going to have to replenish their stock of players, be it directly to us or via Granada or Udinese makes no difference. Does it matter from which club the transfer money comes from if the player is playing for us (as Vydra is)? It is ironic though that the first payday from Watford is likely to be from a player inherited from the day the pozzos took over.
[quote][p][bold]AlanMayeshasscored[/bold] wrote: Anyone who thinks the Pozzos are going to spend any of Troys transfer fee are wrong, it's not the way they operate. We won't as supporters get anything out of this, they will pay wages but that's all. We might get a couple of loans or free transfers but that £10m will not do us or the club any good at all, get used to it.[/p][/quote]you may be right to a point, but at some point they are going to have to replenish their stock of players, be it directly to us or via Granada or Udinese makes no difference. Does it matter from which club the transfer money comes from if the player is playing for us (as Vydra is)? It is ironic though that the first payday from Watford is likely to be from a player inherited from the day the pozzos took over. matey_from_brighton
  • Score: 0

11:14pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Bert_Gill says...

Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns! Bert_Gill
  • Score: 6

8:38am Tue 29 Jul 14

Glenn Roeder says...

Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Good post.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Good post. Glenn Roeder
  • Score: 4

11:11am Tue 29 Jul 14

SJM...laugh at luton says...

Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate

They are our number 1 hate now...trust me
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate They are our number 1 hate now...trust me SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: -8

11:49am Tue 29 Jul 14

Bert_Gill says...

SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate

They are our number 1 hate now...trust me
Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome.

QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford.

We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist.

Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves.

I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business.

At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat.

You 'Orns!!
[quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate They are our number 1 hate now...trust me[/p][/quote]Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome. QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford. We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist. Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves. I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business. At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat. You 'Orns!! Bert_Gill
  • Score: 5

1:41pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Wimbledonhorn says...

Bert_Gill wrote:
SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate

They are our number 1 hate now...trust me
Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome.

QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford.

We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist.

Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves.

I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business.

At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat.

You 'Orns!!
'When the big boys like QPR come knocking' ???! Hardly much bigger than us!
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate They are our number 1 hate now...trust me[/p][/quote]Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome. QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford. We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist. Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves. I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business. At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat. You 'Orns!![/p][/quote]'When the big boys like QPR come knocking' ???! Hardly much bigger than us! Wimbledonhorn
  • Score: -5

3:43pm Tue 29 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Bert,

I used the word precarious - not in the sense that QPR will do a Portsmouth or Coventry, but the losses are unsustainable unless the owner(s) plough in lots of money. Tony Fernandes may or may not be prepared to keep doing that - I dont know. But they are almost certainly in breach of Football League financial fairplay regs.

For 2012/13 when in the Prem they lost £65m and debts totalled £177m. Only Man City and Chelsea have posted larger in the history of English football. For the Championship 2013/14 season, the results are likely to be even worse, with lower TV income though, partly offset by parachute payments.

By December they must post the 2012/13 figures with the football authorities. At that point, following promotion they are liable to a FFP football tax of c £47m - taking a substantial share of their first year Premier League money. That's without increased wages and paying for those players on high wages and long contracts they can't get rid of. Mind you this scenario makes a mockery of financial fair play.

I am sure Mr Fernandes can afford it (he's just sold his formaula 1 franchise), but for how long are sugar daddies like him prepared to fund this level of losses.

I don't hate or have nothing against QPR (many of my mates support them) and no doubt, if we had a sugar daddy like Fernandes (on a different level in 70's/80's we had Elton), many on here, possibly including me would sing a different tune.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Bert, I used the word precarious - not in the sense that QPR will do a Portsmouth or Coventry, but the losses are unsustainable unless the owner(s) plough in lots of money. Tony Fernandes may or may not be prepared to keep doing that - I dont know. But they are almost certainly in breach of Football League financial fairplay regs. For 2012/13 when in the Prem they lost £65m and debts totalled £177m. Only Man City and Chelsea have posted larger in the history of English football. For the Championship 2013/14 season, the results are likely to be even worse, with lower TV income though, partly offset by parachute payments. By December they must post the 2012/13 figures with the football authorities. At that point, following promotion they are liable to a FFP football tax of c £47m - taking a substantial share of their first year Premier League money. That's without increased wages and paying for those players on high wages and long contracts they can't get rid of. Mind you this scenario makes a mockery of financial fair play. I am sure Mr Fernandes can afford it (he's just sold his formaula 1 franchise), but for how long are sugar daddies like him prepared to fund this level of losses. I don't hate or have nothing against QPR (many of my mates support them) and no doubt, if we had a sugar daddy like Fernandes (on a different level in 70's/80's we had Elton), many on here, possibly including me would sing a different tune. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 0

4:18pm Tue 29 Jul 14

tonyevans22 says...

VOReason wrote:
tonyevans22 wrote:
Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?
So let me get this right, you peered into your crystal ball and came back with the revelation that Harry redknapp might want to pay slightly over the odds for a centre forward ... You genius!
Well you are right on one word,Genius,a status you well never acclaim!
[quote][p][bold]VOReason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: Where's my -22 thumbs down now boys..Broke it to you 3 weeks ago on the 1st story it would be QPR and watch this space..Humble pie anyone?[/p][/quote]So let me get this right, you peered into your crystal ball and came back with the revelation that Harry redknapp might want to pay slightly over the odds for a centre forward ... You genius![/p][/quote]Well you are right on one word,Genius,a status you well never acclaim! tonyevans22
  • Score: -1

5:30pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Bert_Gill says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Bert,

I used the word precarious - not in the sense that QPR will do a Portsmouth or Coventry, but the losses are unsustainable unless the owner(s) plough in lots of money. Tony Fernandes may or may not be prepared to keep doing that - I dont know. But they are almost certainly in breach of Football League financial fairplay regs.

For 2012/13 when in the Prem they lost £65m and debts totalled £177m. Only Man City and Chelsea have posted larger in the history of English football. For the Championship 2013/14 season, the results are likely to be even worse, with lower TV income though, partly offset by parachute payments.

By December they must post the 2012/13 figures with the football authorities. At that point, following promotion they are liable to a FFP football tax of c £47m - taking a substantial share of their first year Premier League money. That's without increased wages and paying for those players on high wages and long contracts they can't get rid of. Mind you this scenario makes a mockery of financial fair play.

I am sure Mr Fernandes can afford it (he's just sold his formaula 1 franchise), but for how long are sugar daddies like him prepared to fund this level of losses.

I don't hate or have nothing against QPR (many of my mates support them) and no doubt, if we had a sugar daddy like Fernandes (on a different level in 70's/80's we had Elton), many on here, possibly including me would sing a different tune.
Good, well balanced post. I too have QPR supporting mates, and they're a decent bunch. Good luck to them.

One thing though, you mentioned QPR being in breach of Football League FFP regulations. They may be, but any fine is not enforceable now they've been promoted.

Football League fines can't be enforced unless a club is playing in the Football League, which QPR aren't.

They've escaped any fine, so their Sky TV revenue is safe.

They're free to keep Remy, buy Deeney and stick him on the bench, or basically do what they like.

Good luck to them. If only we could be in such an enviable position. Maybe that's why there's so much negativity and jealousy directed at QPR by some Watford fans.

Yellow Army!
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Bert, I used the word precarious - not in the sense that QPR will do a Portsmouth or Coventry, but the losses are unsustainable unless the owner(s) plough in lots of money. Tony Fernandes may or may not be prepared to keep doing that - I dont know. But they are almost certainly in breach of Football League financial fairplay regs. For 2012/13 when in the Prem they lost £65m and debts totalled £177m. Only Man City and Chelsea have posted larger in the history of English football. For the Championship 2013/14 season, the results are likely to be even worse, with lower TV income though, partly offset by parachute payments. By December they must post the 2012/13 figures with the football authorities. At that point, following promotion they are liable to a FFP football tax of c £47m - taking a substantial share of their first year Premier League money. That's without increased wages and paying for those players on high wages and long contracts they can't get rid of. Mind you this scenario makes a mockery of financial fair play. I am sure Mr Fernandes can afford it (he's just sold his formaula 1 franchise), but for how long are sugar daddies like him prepared to fund this level of losses. I don't hate or have nothing against QPR (many of my mates support them) and no doubt, if we had a sugar daddy like Fernandes (on a different level in 70's/80's we had Elton), many on here, possibly including me would sing a different tune.[/p][/quote]Good, well balanced post. I too have QPR supporting mates, and they're a decent bunch. Good luck to them. One thing though, you mentioned QPR being in breach of Football League FFP regulations. They may be, but any fine is not enforceable now they've been promoted. Football League fines can't be enforced unless a club is playing in the Football League, which QPR aren't. They've escaped any fine, so their Sky TV revenue is safe. They're free to keep Remy, buy Deeney and stick him on the bench, or basically do what they like. Good luck to them. If only we could be in such an enviable position. Maybe that's why there's so much negativity and jealousy directed at QPR by some Watford fans. Yellow Army! Bert_Gill
  • Score: 5

6:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

allgood says...

Bert_Gill wrote:
SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate

They are our number 1 hate now...trust me
Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome.

QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford.

We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist.

Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves.

I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business.

At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat.

You 'Orns!!
Think Bert might be a Qpr fan. Suggesting we are rivals with Hemel or Borehamwood is taking the P. Qpr are no bigger than Watford In fact when at the same level with the same success rate they get smaller crowds.
Big boys don't make me laugh! Just got very rich owners. Want to be rivals with Chelsea but not on their radar. Brentford are their true rivals.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate They are our number 1 hate now...trust me[/p][/quote]Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome. QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford. We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist. Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves. I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business. At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat. You 'Orns!![/p][/quote]Think Bert might be a Qpr fan. Suggesting we are rivals with Hemel or Borehamwood is taking the P. Qpr are no bigger than Watford In fact when at the same level with the same success rate they get smaller crowds. Big boys don't make me laugh! Just got very rich owners. Want to be rivals with Chelsea but not on their radar. Brentford are their true rivals. allgood
  • Score: -3

6:35pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Bert_Gill says...

allgood wrote:
Bert_Gill wrote:
SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
Bert_Gill wrote:
Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this).

QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club.

I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please.

We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous.

You 'Orns!
Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate

They are our number 1 hate now...trust me
Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome.

QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford.

We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist.

Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves.

I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business.

At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat.

You 'Orns!!
Think Bert might be a Qpr fan. Suggesting we are rivals with Hemel or Borehamwood is taking the P. Qpr are no bigger than Watford In fact when at the same level with the same success rate they get smaller crowds.
Big boys don't make me laugh! Just got very rich owners. Want to be rivals with Chelsea but not on their radar. Brentford are their true rivals.
Lifelong 'Orn and a season ticket holder since 1968, actually.

When I referred to Hemel Town etc I was talking about geography. QPR are NOT our local rivals, and never have been, so I don't understand some of our fans' obsession with them.

I have been to a few games at Loftus Road with mates over the years. Many times in the 75-76 season when they finished second in division one, and we were in the old division four, just before Elton rescued us.

They are a decent club, and deserve their success. We can only hope that we might get promoted one day too. Until then, those of us with QPR obsessions had better pick another team to obsess over.

Yellow Army!!
[quote][p][bold]allgood[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Gill[/bold] wrote: Several of you have mentioned QPR's "precarious" financial situation. What evidence is there of this? Just promoted to the Premier League with the TV revenue that will bring, fantastically wealthy owners (Google Lakshmi Mittal for evidence of this). QPR do not need to sell Loic Remy. He wants Champions League football. That's the reason for the sale. QPR fans will be delighted that he's "failed a medical" and will now be staying at the club. I understand that some Watford fans have an irrational hatred of QPR, but stick to the facts, please. We're making Watford FC look a bit ridiculous. You 'Orns![/p][/quote]Yes mate hate qpr scum more than luton scum...did u see the atmosphere around loftus road in Aprils game...not friendly mate They are our number 1 hate now...trust me[/p][/quote]Well I'm sorry, but if you go along to an opposing team's ground with that kind of attitude, I'm not surprised you didn't exactly receive a warm welcome. QPR fans I've met are a decent bunch. They really don't care about Watford. We ought to be concentrating on our real local rivals, rather than inventing one that doesn't exist. Luton, Barnet, Borehamwood, Hemel Hempstead Town. This is who we need to be focussing on, or better still, ourselves. I think the future looks good for us. Yes, we are a selling club, and we need to realise that when the big boys like QPR come knocking, we have to do business. At least we can rely on the Pozzo's to supply us with endless stream of one year loans from Udinese and Granada to keep us afloat. You 'Orns!![/p][/quote]Think Bert might be a Qpr fan. Suggesting we are rivals with Hemel or Borehamwood is taking the P. Qpr are no bigger than Watford In fact when at the same level with the same success rate they get smaller crowds. Big boys don't make me laugh! Just got very rich owners. Want to be rivals with Chelsea but not on their radar. Brentford are their true rivals.[/p][/quote]Lifelong 'Orn and a season ticket holder since 1968, actually. When I referred to Hemel Town etc I was talking about geography. QPR are NOT our local rivals, and never have been, so I don't understand some of our fans' obsession with them. I have been to a few games at Loftus Road with mates over the years. Many times in the 75-76 season when they finished second in division one, and we were in the old division four, just before Elton rescued us. They are a decent club, and deserve their success. We can only hope that we might get promoted one day too. Until then, those of us with QPR obsessions had better pick another team to obsess over. Yellow Army!! Bert_Gill
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