Beppe Sannino says he has clear ideas over who will start in Watford's Championship opener with Bolton Wanderers on Saturday

Sannino says his starting XI is almost decided. Picture: Action Images

Sannino says his starting XI is almost decided. Picture: Action Images

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Hornets head coach Beppe Sannino says he has clear ideas when it comes to his starting XI for Watford’s Championship opener with Bolton Wanderers but concedes he has one or two doubts. 

With the Hornets’ first team’s pre-season campaign now over, the focus switches to this Saturday's clash at Vicarage Road.

Sannino said prior to the draw with Udinese that the friendly would provide clues as to his starting XI on the opening day of the league campaign.

And after Saturday's warm-up game, the Italian was asked if he knew his starting XI against Bolton. He replied: “I have some solutions but some doubts.

“For next Saturday I know the majority of the players that will stay on the pitch. I may have one or two doubts about the starting XI but I have clear ideas.”

One area that Sannino is pleased with is in attack - even if Troy Deeney leaves Vicarage Road this summer.

He said: “We have five strikers and they are all very good. All five are very important and every striker has good qualities.

“I am happy for Troy if he could reach his dream but we are happy also because I have Matej Vydra, Mathias Ranegie, Fernando Forestieri, Diego Fabbrini and Odion Ighalo. That is great for the fans of Watford.”

Several Premier League sides have made bids or enquires for Deeney throughout the summer but Watford have rebuffed all offers.

He started only his second match since the Hornets returned from the pre-season training camp on Saturday but Sannino was tight-lipped on whether that meant the 26-year-old would remain at Vicarage Road.

“I don’t know the market in England,” Sannino said. “One day Troy is leaving the next day Troy is staying. This (whether Deeney will stay) is something you’ll have to ask the club.”

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12:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

bristol hornet says...

Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH. bristol hornet
  • Score: -1

12:26pm Mon 4 Aug 14

cbuk1983 says...

I agree with Sannino about our attacking options, should Deeney depart. Thought Ighalo looked a handful and Ranegie is definitely a decent option for us. Forestieri and Vydra would probably be my attacking preference if we didn't have Deeney, though I do feel Forestieri is one of those players that often plays best when he is brought on as a sub.

@chrisbratt
I agree with Sannino about our attacking options, should Deeney depart. Thought Ighalo looked a handful and Ranegie is definitely a decent option for us. Forestieri and Vydra would probably be my attacking preference if we didn't have Deeney, though I do feel Forestieri is one of those players that often plays best when he is brought on as a sub. @chrisbratt cbuk1983
  • Score: -3

12:32pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Abbotshorn says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Tamas worried me, Hoban any day for me. Igalo looks like he is a battler and will do well
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Tamas worried me, Hoban any day for me. Igalo looks like he is a battler and will do well Abbotshorn
  • Score: 17

12:43pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Irishman358 says...

From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion Irishman358
  • Score: 15

12:45pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Urban Bear says...

Abbotshorn wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Tamas worried me, Hoban any day for me. Igalo looks like he is a battler and will do well
Sorry mate but i though Tamas looked confident on the ball and had a good game. I'm far happier with him, than I was seeing Neuton or Belkalem in the side.
[quote][p][bold]Abbotshorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Tamas worried me, Hoban any day for me. Igalo looks like he is a battler and will do well[/p][/quote]Sorry mate but i though Tamas looked confident on the ball and had a good game. I'm far happier with him, than I was seeing Neuton or Belkalem in the side. Urban Bear
  • Score: 3

12:51pm Mon 4 Aug 14

kevhenderson says...

Urban Bear wrote:
Abbotshorn wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Tamas worried me, Hoban any day for me. Igalo looks like he is a battler and will do well
Sorry mate but i though Tamas looked confident on the ball and had a good game. I'm far happier with him, than I was seeing Neuton or Belkalem in the side.
Fortunately it's not a choice of Tamas, Neuton or Belkalem. The main decision is Tamas or Hoban. It's got to be Hoban for me.
[quote][p][bold]Urban Bear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbotshorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Tamas worried me, Hoban any day for me. Igalo looks like he is a battler and will do well[/p][/quote]Sorry mate but i though Tamas looked confident on the ball and had a good game. I'm far happier with him, than I was seeing Neuton or Belkalem in the side.[/p][/quote]Fortunately it's not a choice of Tamas, Neuton or Belkalem. The main decision is Tamas or Hoban. It's got to be Hoban for me. kevhenderson
  • Score: 15

12:52pm Mon 4 Aug 14

AngelHornet says...

Irishman358 wrote:
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
Andrews is ineligible due to Bolton being his parent club
[quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion[/p][/quote]Andrews is ineligible due to Bolton being his parent club AngelHornet
  • Score: 6

12:53pm Mon 4 Aug 14

errollg says...

We have about 23 players who are good enough to be first team regulars. We have at least 6 very good centre backs. But who would cover If, say, Pudil got injured? ekstrand out of position? And when will Paredes play if we look for Anya/Dyer on the right wing as more attacking players? And when have we ever had such depth of attacking options?!

Beppe will need great man management skills to keep everyone happy and as part of one squad working together for the same goal.

But the strength in depthshould all stand us in great stead for Jan/February onwards when injuries/suspensions likely to deplete the squad.

This is the best overall squad I can remember. If we all pull together we can do this. COYH!
We have about 23 players who are good enough to be first team regulars. We have at least 6 very good centre backs. But who would cover If, say, Pudil got injured? ekstrand out of position? And when will Paredes play if we look for Anya/Dyer on the right wing as more attacking players? And when have we ever had such depth of attacking options?! Beppe will need great man management skills to keep everyone happy and as part of one squad working together for the same goal. But the strength in depthshould all stand us in great stead for Jan/February onwards when injuries/suspensions likely to deplete the squad. This is the best overall squad I can remember. If we all pull together we can do this. COYH! errollg
  • Score: 6

1:15pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Irishman358 says...

AngelHornet wrote:
Irishman358 wrote:
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
Andrews is ineligible due to Bolton being his parent club
I meant as more of a general XI but thanks anyway
[quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion[/p][/quote]Andrews is ineligible due to Bolton being his parent club[/p][/quote]I meant as more of a general XI but thanks anyway Irishman358
  • Score: 2

1:15pm Mon 4 Aug 14

bushey tales says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........ bushey tales
  • Score: 9

1:20pm Mon 4 Aug 14

stiffler99 says...

I would be really concerned if with five days to go to the start of the proper season he had no clue who he was going to start with. Hopefully there are just one or two question marks which he will decide after this few days of training ....................
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I would be really concerned if with five days to go to the start of the proper season he had no clue who he was going to start with. Hopefully there are just one or two question marks which he will decide after this few days of training .................... ..... stiffler99
  • Score: 1

1:40pm Mon 4 Aug 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

I think he'd have to be a very brave manager not to start Vydra... If you don't play him and we don't win then some fans will instantly get on his back. So my guess is that he'll go 3-5-2 in order that Vydra partner Deeney up front - because in a 4-3-3, really you should be playing Vydra OR Deeney and then putting more natural wingers on the wings.
I think he'd have to be a very brave manager not to start Vydra... If you don't play him and we don't win then some fans will instantly get on his back. So my guess is that he'll go 3-5-2 in order that Vydra partner Deeney up front - because in a 4-3-3, really you should be playing Vydra OR Deeney and then putting more natural wingers on the wings. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 0

1:49pm Mon 4 Aug 14

mellow yellow says...

errollg wrote:
We have about 23 players who are good enough to be first team regulars. We have at least 6 very good centre backs. But who would cover If, say, Pudil got injured? ekstrand out of position? And when will Paredes play if we look for Anya/Dyer on the right wing as more attacking players? And when have we ever had such depth of attacking options?!

Beppe will need great man management skills to keep everyone happy and as part of one squad working together for the same goal.

But the strength in depthshould all stand us in great stead for Jan/February onwards when injuries/suspensions likely to deplete the squad.

This is the best overall squad I can remember. If we all pull together we can do this. COYH!
Your observation about Paredes is interesting, but I have a bit to add. The other day I saw a guy in an Equador shirt kicking a ball about and went up to have a chat with him. Mentioning Watford, he immediately smiled and said 'Ah, Paredes... Yes, great pace, good at the back, and also very good upfront.' So, maybe more versatile than we think. The guy was pretty convinced we'd landed a great player who will do very well at championship level. He certainly knew way more about Paredes than I do, and, I guess, most of you reading this now. Bring it on!
[quote][p][bold]errollg[/bold] wrote: We have about 23 players who are good enough to be first team regulars. We have at least 6 very good centre backs. But who would cover If, say, Pudil got injured? ekstrand out of position? And when will Paredes play if we look for Anya/Dyer on the right wing as more attacking players? And when have we ever had such depth of attacking options?! Beppe will need great man management skills to keep everyone happy and as part of one squad working together for the same goal. But the strength in depthshould all stand us in great stead for Jan/February onwards when injuries/suspensions likely to deplete the squad. This is the best overall squad I can remember. If we all pull together we can do this. COYH![/p][/quote]Your observation about Paredes is interesting, but I have a bit to add. The other day I saw a guy in an Equador shirt kicking a ball about and went up to have a chat with him. Mentioning Watford, he immediately smiled and said 'Ah, Paredes... Yes, great pace, good at the back, and also very good upfront.' So, maybe more versatile than we think. The guy was pretty convinced we'd landed a great player who will do very well at championship level. He certainly knew way more about Paredes than I do, and, I guess, most of you reading this now. Bring it on! mellow yellow
  • Score: 9

1:59pm Mon 4 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Irishman358 wrote:
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up.
I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy
[quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion[/p][/quote]Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up. I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy lutondown
  • Score: -2

2:27pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Harry's Bar says...

What would these "one or two doubts" be? Presumably one would be whether to start McGugan or Batto alongside Abdi. With Paredes still not cleared Anya should play RWB. Pudil should play LWB. The only other question would be which two from Hoban, Ekstrand & Tamas play.
What would these "one or two doubts" be? Presumably one would be whether to start McGugan or Batto alongside Abdi. With Paredes still not cleared Anya should play RWB. Pudil should play LWB. The only other question would be which two from Hoban, Ekstrand & Tamas play. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 3

2:27pm Mon 4 Aug 14

the jesterwestport says...

Irishman358 wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
Irishman358 wrote:
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
Andrews is ineligible due to Bolton being his parent club
I meant as more of a general XI but thanks anyway
a second irish hornet
[quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion[/p][/quote]Andrews is ineligible due to Bolton being his parent club[/p][/quote]I meant as more of a general XI but thanks anyway[/p][/quote]a second irish hornet the jesterwestport
  • Score: -1

2:41pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Shoooooot says...

I know it won't happen but I would still prefer 4-4-2 because we were vulnerable in defence when Udinese ran at us & I think the formation has a better balance.
So I would go for:
Gomes
Doyley/Paredes, Angella, Hoban, Pudil
Anya, Toz, Abi/McGugan, Dyer
Vydra, Deeney

Personally I wasn't overkeen on Tamas but he did win some challenges in the air - distribution was poor though. Mouth-watering whatever!!
I know it won't happen but I would still prefer 4-4-2 because we were vulnerable in defence when Udinese ran at us & I think the formation has a better balance. So I would go for: Gomes Doyley/Paredes, Angella, Hoban, Pudil Anya, Toz, Abi/McGugan, Dyer Vydra, Deeney Personally I wasn't overkeen on Tamas but he did win some challenges in the air - distribution was poor though. Mouth-watering whatever!! Shoooooot
  • Score: 0

2:45pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Irishman358 says...

lutondown wrote:
Irishman358 wrote:
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up.
I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy
Agree with Dyer but I'm not sure if he quite fits into a 352 as he works better further forward in my opinion. He could probably adapt though and as much as I love diego I can only see him on the bench given our depth in midfield!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion[/p][/quote]Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up. I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy[/p][/quote]Agree with Dyer but I'm not sure if he quite fits into a 352 as he works better further forward in my opinion. He could probably adapt though and as much as I love diego I can only see him on the bench given our depth in midfield! Irishman358
  • Score: 0

3:06pm Mon 4 Aug 14

bristol hornet says...

bushey tales wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........
Good point my friend.

Did the proposed "nine home grown players" regulation get adopted, or is it still the six as per last season?

If it is nine, we will struggle big time!

If Deeney is sold, and with Andrews not being available, I think Hoban will have to play in a team looking something like this:

Gomes,
Hoban, Ekstrand, Angella,
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Ighalo.

Subs: Bond, Cathcart, Doyley, Murray, Bottochio, Fessi, Fabrini.

Even then it is only eight "home grown" players, so Batts, Fessi or Fabs would have to give way to someone like Smith or O'Nien.

Just hope it is still SIX!!
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........[/p][/quote]Good point my friend. Did the proposed "nine home grown players" regulation get adopted, or is it still the six as per last season? If it is nine, we will struggle big time! If Deeney is sold, and with Andrews not being available, I think Hoban will have to play in a team looking something like this: Gomes, Hoban, Ekstrand, Angella, Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Ighalo. Subs: Bond, Cathcart, Doyley, Murray, Bottochio, Fessi, Fabrini. Even then it is only eight "home grown" players, so Batts, Fessi or Fabs would have to give way to someone like Smith or O'Nien. Just hope it is still SIX!! bristol hornet
  • Score: 3

3:33pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Boxhorn says...

stiffler99 wrote:
I would be really concerned if with five days to go to the start of the proper season he had no clue who he was going to start with. Hopefully there are just one or two question marks which he will decide after this few days of training .................... .....
Isn't that what he said? Bit of a non comment really Stiffler99...
[quote][p][bold]stiffler99[/bold] wrote: I would be really concerned if with five days to go to the start of the proper season he had no clue who he was going to start with. Hopefully there are just one or two question marks which he will decide after this few days of training .................... .....[/p][/quote]Isn't that what he said? Bit of a non comment really Stiffler99... Boxhorn
  • Score: 0

3:54pm Mon 4 Aug 14

soulfulhornet says...

bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
I'd rather be in Beppe's shoes than the Blackpool manager's.
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]I'd rather be in Beppe's shoes than the Blackpool manager's. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 3

4:21pm Mon 4 Aug 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

bushey tales wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........
What I would like to know is why doesn't the Premier League have the same rules as the football league re: homegrown players. Surely that is the start of the "all that is wrong with the game" argument...
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........[/p][/quote]What I would like to know is why doesn't the Premier League have the same rules as the football league re: homegrown players. Surely that is the start of the "all that is wrong with the game" argument... PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 9

4:50pm Mon 4 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Irishman358 wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Irishman358 wrote:
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up.
I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy
Agree with Dyer but I'm not sure if he quite fits into a 352 as he works better further forward in my opinion. He could probably adapt though and as much as I love diego I can only see him on the bench given our depth in midfield!
Fair point well made, yet as it stands a thumb down? Now Mr Irishman please stop having an alternative opinion, the tools don't like it.
Btw thoroughly agree on the Diego dilemma, my favourite player but how do we squeeze it all in. Poor Coccos got a job on his hand keeping the circus happy.
[quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion[/p][/quote]Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up. I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy[/p][/quote]Agree with Dyer but I'm not sure if he quite fits into a 352 as he works better further forward in my opinion. He could probably adapt though and as much as I love diego I can only see him on the bench given our depth in midfield![/p][/quote]Fair point well made, yet as it stands a thumb down? Now Mr Irishman please stop having an alternative opinion, the tools don't like it. Btw thoroughly agree on the Diego dilemma, my favourite player but how do we squeeze it all in. Poor Coccos got a job on his hand keeping the circus happy. lutondown
  • Score: 2

5:29pm Mon 4 Aug 14

WriteN0w says...

Keith Andrews is ineligible so there is definitely one player who won't be fit. Forestieri and Tozser may not play either. Don't think there is any place for Lloyd Doyley either.

Gomes
Tamas
Angella
Hoban
Anya
Tozser (if fit)
Abdi
Battocchio
Pudil
Deeney
Vydra

Subs:

Bond
Ekstrand/Cathcart
McGugan
Ranegie/Fabbrini
Ighalo/Forestieri
Dyer
Murray
Keith Andrews is ineligible so there is definitely one player who won't be fit. Forestieri and Tozser may not play either. Don't think there is any place for Lloyd Doyley either. Gomes Tamas Angella Hoban Anya Tozser (if fit) Abdi Battocchio Pudil Deeney Vydra Subs: Bond Ekstrand/Cathcart McGugan Ranegie/Fabbrini Ighalo/Forestieri Dyer Murray WriteN0w
  • Score: 3

5:43pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Hampshire hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Irishman358 wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Irishman358 wrote:
From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion
Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up.
I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy
Agree with Dyer but I'm not sure if he quite fits into a 352 as he works better further forward in my opinion. He could probably adapt though and as much as I love diego I can only see him on the bench given our depth in midfield!
Fair point well made, yet as it stands a thumb down? Now Mr Irishman please stop having an alternative opinion, the tools don't like it.
Btw thoroughly agree on the Diego dilemma, my favourite player but how do we squeeze it all in. Poor Coccos got a job on his hand keeping the circus happy.
Harry deserves a game or at least a place on the bench next to Coco... Red Nose Day is going to be hilarious
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Irishman358[/bold] wrote: From what I saw on Saturday, the starting XI looks good. Only changes I would have made would be to remove Tamas for Hoban (because Tamas seemed to venture forward too much for my liking and Hoban is a fantastic player) and probably Tozser in for Andrews. Andrews isn't bad at all but Tozser has to start in my opinion[/p][/quote]Me too, Hoban definitely. I'd also have Fabrini and no Anya, who cannot seem to finish off good runs, and I'd have Toszer too, agreeing that Andrews is also good back up. I'd also have Dyer in there. Again my opinion, one that will get old mammary glands dribbling like a rabid dog. Bite you bad boy[/p][/quote]Agree with Dyer but I'm not sure if he quite fits into a 352 as he works better further forward in my opinion. He could probably adapt though and as much as I love diego I can only see him on the bench given our depth in midfield![/p][/quote]Fair point well made, yet as it stands a thumb down? Now Mr Irishman please stop having an alternative opinion, the tools don't like it. Btw thoroughly agree on the Diego dilemma, my favourite player but how do we squeeze it all in. Poor Coccos got a job on his hand keeping the circus happy.[/p][/quote]Harry deserves a game or at least a place on the bench next to Coco... Red Nose Day is going to be hilarious Hampshire hornet
  • Score: -1

6:46pm Mon 4 Aug 14

hemelhorn87 says...

I personally would play Angella and Ekstrand either side of Tamas as neither Angella or Ekstrand are strong enough to play the central role.

Tozser obviously in for Andrews( who will do fine for whenever Tozser is out) and for me McGugan has to start because he always brings that threat as we saw on Saturday!

Pudil and Anya are obvious choices and Vydra hopefully will hit the ground running as Forestieri is ready to jump in when fully fit
I personally would play Angella and Ekstrand either side of Tamas as neither Angella or Ekstrand are strong enough to play the central role. Tozser obviously in for Andrews( who will do fine for whenever Tozser is out) and for me McGugan has to start because he always brings that threat as we saw on Saturday! Pudil and Anya are obvious choices and Vydra hopefully will hit the ground running as Forestieri is ready to jump in when fully fit hemelhorn87
  • Score: 1

10:40pm Mon 4 Aug 14

GarstonHorn says...

Would prefer to see Dyer at LWB instead of Pudil especially at home
Would prefer to see Dyer at LWB instead of Pudil especially at home GarstonHorn
  • Score: -2

9:06am Tue 5 Aug 14

bristol hornet says...

Yes, the home grown rule has remained at six, so we will be alright on this issue.

However, the second point about more than half of our squad is home grown is open to debate.

We now have this Munari, Parades, Gomes, Ekstrand, Angella, Tamas, Pudil, Batts, Fessi, Fabs, Abdi, Toszer, Ighalo, Ranegie, Vydra, and Iriney (still on the books). That makes a total of 16.

I make the home grown contingent to be:

Bond, Doyley, Cathcart, Hoban, Murray, McGugan, Anya, Deeney, Andrews, Dyer, O,Nien and Connor Smith - a total of 12.

You would be stretching a point to include the likes of Mensah, Doherty, and Ikpeazu, who are all likely to go out on loan (along with Smith and O'Nien), and hardly play in a first team so full of so many talented players ahead of them.

Thank God the rule was not changed from six to nine (but will be probably done next season), and let us hope for some good Cup runs where we can fully utilise our marvellous squad.
Yes, the home grown rule has remained at six, so we will be alright on this issue. However, the second point about more than half of our squad is home grown is open to debate. We now have this Munari, Parades, Gomes, Ekstrand, Angella, Tamas, Pudil, Batts, Fessi, Fabs, Abdi, Toszer, Ighalo, Ranegie, Vydra, and Iriney (still on the books). That makes a total of 16. I make the home grown contingent to be: Bond, Doyley, Cathcart, Hoban, Murray, McGugan, Anya, Deeney, Andrews, Dyer, O,Nien and Connor Smith - a total of 12. You would be stretching a point to include the likes of Mensah, Doherty, and Ikpeazu, who are all likely to go out on loan (along with Smith and O'Nien), and hardly play in a first team so full of so many talented players ahead of them. Thank God the rule was not changed from six to nine (but will be probably done next season), and let us hope for some good Cup runs where we can fully utilise our marvellous squad. bristol hornet
  • Score: 1

11:16am Tue 5 Aug 14

hemelhorn87 says...

GarstonHorn wrote:
Would prefer to see Dyer at LWB instead of Pudil especially at home
Dyer at wing back simply won't work, he's a winger and probably doesn't have the discipline that Anya has in defensive work, unfortunately can't see Dyer fitting into this formation. Pudil is a very good wing back and fits the 3-5-2 perfectly as we can't have players staying too high up in this system! Can't always be thinking about going forward
[quote][p][bold]GarstonHorn[/bold] wrote: Would prefer to see Dyer at LWB instead of Pudil especially at home[/p][/quote]Dyer at wing back simply won't work, he's a winger and probably doesn't have the discipline that Anya has in defensive work, unfortunately can't see Dyer fitting into this formation. Pudil is a very good wing back and fits the 3-5-2 perfectly as we can't have players staying too high up in this system! Can't always be thinking about going forward hemelhorn87
  • Score: 0

2:05pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lutondown says...

bristol hornet wrote:
bushey tales wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........
Good point my friend.

Did the proposed "nine home grown players" regulation get adopted, or is it still the six as per last season?

If it is nine, we will struggle big time!

If Deeney is sold, and with Andrews not being available, I think Hoban will have to play in a team looking something like this:

Gomes,
Hoban, Ekstrand, Angella,
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Ighalo.

Subs: Bond, Cathcart, Doyley, Murray, Bottochio, Fessi, Fabrini.

Even then it is only eight "home grown" players, so Batts, Fessi or Fabs would have to give way to someone like Smith or O'Nien.

Just hope it is still SIX!!
Ha ha ha
The cleric and the relic united in a wonderful cyber friendship...
I actually feel for you dear old Bushey Wails.
Hope the madness isn't catching
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........[/p][/quote]Good point my friend. Did the proposed "nine home grown players" regulation get adopted, or is it still the six as per last season? If it is nine, we will struggle big time! If Deeney is sold, and with Andrews not being available, I think Hoban will have to play in a team looking something like this: Gomes, Hoban, Ekstrand, Angella, Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Ighalo. Subs: Bond, Cathcart, Doyley, Murray, Bottochio, Fessi, Fabrini. Even then it is only eight "home grown" players, so Batts, Fessi or Fabs would have to give way to someone like Smith or O'Nien. Just hope it is still SIX!![/p][/quote]Ha ha ha The cleric and the relic united in a wonderful cyber friendship... I actually feel for you dear old Bushey Wails. Hope the madness isn't catching lutondown
  • Score: -1

9:10am Wed 6 Aug 14

bristol hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
bushey tales wrote:
bristol hornet wrote:
Good that the he knows his staring eleven.

It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of:

Gomes
Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves).

Any number of permutations of subs from:

Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others.

Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad?

COYH.
Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........
Good point my friend.

Did the proposed "nine home grown players" regulation get adopted, or is it still the six as per last season?

If it is nine, we will struggle big time!

If Deeney is sold, and with Andrews not being available, I think Hoban will have to play in a team looking something like this:

Gomes,
Hoban, Ekstrand, Angella,
Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil,
Vydra, Ighalo.

Subs: Bond, Cathcart, Doyley, Murray, Bottochio, Fessi, Fabrini.

Even then it is only eight "home grown" players, so Batts, Fessi or Fabs would have to give way to someone like Smith or O'Nien.

Just hope it is still SIX!!
Ha ha ha
The cleric and the relic united in a wonderful cyber friendship...
I actually feel for you dear old Bushey Wails.
Hope the madness isn't catching
2 Kings 2:23!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: Good that the he knows his staring eleven. It will probably be a 3-5-2 formation of: Gomes Tamas, Ekstrand, Angella Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Deeney (or Ighalo if Deeney leaves). Any number of permutations of subs from: Bond, Hoban, Doyley, Cathcart, Andrews, Dyer, Murray, Battochio, Igloo, Fessi, Fabbrini, Ranegie, plus others. Who would be a manager with such a large and talented squad? COYH.[/p][/quote]Bit short of starting Brits there, especially if Deeney goes. Brace yourself for another Martin Samuel tirade. We must be due an update to his epic 'Watford represent everything wrong with the game' piece........[/p][/quote]Good point my friend. Did the proposed "nine home grown players" regulation get adopted, or is it still the six as per last season? If it is nine, we will struggle big time! If Deeney is sold, and with Andrews not being available, I think Hoban will have to play in a team looking something like this: Gomes, Hoban, Ekstrand, Angella, Anya, Toszer, Abdi, McGugan, Pudil, Vydra, Ighalo. Subs: Bond, Cathcart, Doyley, Murray, Bottochio, Fessi, Fabrini. Even then it is only eight "home grown" players, so Batts, Fessi or Fabs would have to give way to someone like Smith or O'Nien. Just hope it is still SIX!![/p][/quote]Ha ha ha The cleric and the relic united in a wonderful cyber friendship... I actually feel for you dear old Bushey Wails. Hope the madness isn't catching[/p][/quote]2 Kings 2:23!!!!! bristol hornet
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