Watford are likely to only receive approximately £130,000 should Ogo Obi join Manchester United

Ogo Obi collecting his Golden Boot trophy at last summer's Milk Cup. Picture: Milk Cup.

Ogo Obi collecting his Golden Boot trophy at last summer's Milk Cup. Picture: Milk Cup.

First published in Sport Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Deputy Group Sports Editor

Watford youngster Ogo Obi looks set to join Manchester United after his recent trial but the Hornets are likely to only receive approximately £130,000 for the talented striker.

The Golden Boys offered Obi a scholarship with a one-year professional contract attached but the 16-year-old decided he wanted to go on trial with the Red Devils instead.

Obi helped United lift the Milk Cup, with three goals in four games, and we understand he is now likely to join the Premier League club.

In the past, a tribunal system decided how much clubs were entitled to when their young players leave for other teams but now the hugely-controversial Elite Player Performance Plan. created by the Premier League, means sums have reduced dramatically, with the Hornets expected to only receive around £130,000 for Obi.

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12:02pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Bush Hornet says...

The rich get richer. This just goes to show how heinous and unfair the EPPP is when astute businessmen, such as run our club, get shafted.
The rich get richer. This just goes to show how heinous and unfair the EPPP is when astute businessmen, such as run our club, get shafted. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 53

12:02pm Thu 7 Aug 14

llloydwithathirdl says...

Good work FA. Once again helping the big clubs destroy England's football pyramid.
Good work FA. Once again helping the big clubs destroy England's football pyramid. llloydwithathirdl
  • Score: 57

12:12pm Thu 7 Aug 14

MarkPawelek says...

Youth transfers are skewed the wrong way. Compensation should be at least twice the costs of training a player. Half of it being paid when a player reaches first team level. Recent FA changes are just wrong.
Youth transfers are skewed the wrong way. Compensation should be at least twice the costs of training a player. Half of it being paid when a player reaches first team level. Recent FA changes are just wrong. MarkPawelek
  • Score: 18

12:13pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Goldenboy1960 says...

The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt.

If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on.

Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there?
The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt. If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on. Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there? Goldenboy1960
  • Score: 36

12:15pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Barnes' Ball Bag says...

Why not automatically put a 25/30% sell-on clause in his first contact with the new club so that the club that first discovered them is entitled to something down the road
Why not automatically put a 25/30% sell-on clause in his first contact with the new club so that the club that first discovered them is entitled to something down the road Barnes' Ball Bag
  • Score: 31

12:32pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

Pathetic. What is the point in any non prem club developing youngsters at all ? We might as well just close all academies and live off the plentiful supply of freebee rejects that sign up for and then get released by the top clubs.
At the very least should get 50% of any sell on fee.
Pathetic. What is the point in any non prem club developing youngsters at all ? We might as well just close all academies and live off the plentiful supply of freebee rejects that sign up for and then get released by the top clubs. At the very least should get 50% of any sell on fee. Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 20

12:35pm Thu 7 Aug 14

jasonwatford says...

Will he now disappear into a system where he will be paid well for next 2-3 years then he will be who was that boy that went to Man Utd ?? Could ha have stayed here and in 2-3 years be playing in our 1st team ???? Agents have a lot to answer for with young lads
Will he now disappear into a system where he will be paid well for next 2-3 years then he will be who was that boy that went to Man Utd ?? Could ha have stayed here and in 2-3 years be playing in our 1st team ???? Agents have a lot to answer for with young lads jasonwatford
  • Score: 26

12:43pm Thu 7 Aug 14

watford4ever says...

This is cleary completely unfair and a good example of collusion between the big clubs with power and the sports governing bodies who need their support.
I think our club should take legal advice on whether it is worth pursueing a challenge through the UK courts, against the EPPP process.
This is cleary completely unfair and a good example of collusion between the big clubs with power and the sports governing bodies who need their support. I think our club should take legal advice on whether it is worth pursueing a challenge through the UK courts, against the EPPP process. watford4ever
  • Score: 10

12:52pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Paul Gadd says...

I'm waiting for the likes of Spameuls, Hollowhead, Ince, Durham, Gough etc etc start blaming our great club for this.....ready?

'Everything that's wrong with football....' ( yawn)
I'm waiting for the likes of Spameuls, Hollowhead, Ince, Durham, Gough etc etc start blaming our great club for this.....ready? 'Everything that's wrong with football....' ( yawn) Paul Gadd
  • Score: 10

1:01pm Thu 7 Aug 14

rayman01 says...

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt. If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on. Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there?
Agree with all that you say except that TV companies really dictate everything even EPL. Luv the Horns!
[quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt. If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on. Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there?[/p][/quote]Agree with all that you say except that TV companies really dictate everything even EPL. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 2

1:01pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Poppet Bear says...

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt.

If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on.

Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there?
Money, I should think !!!
[quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt. If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on. Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there?[/p][/quote]Money, I should think !!! Poppet Bear
  • Score: 2

1:09pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Poppet Bear says...

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt.

If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on.

Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there?
Money, I would think !!! Anyway, we don't need Bigheads like him. I'm too good for Watford , well get stuffed then.
[quote][p][bold]Goldenboy1960[/bold] wrote: The big clubs (Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool) run the Premier League. The Premier League run the FA, and the Football League fight for the scraps. The big clubs make up all the rules and the nonsense that is the EPPP (yes it's meaning is in the name). The game is corrupt. If you look at Chelsea last year who had at least 28 players out on loan. They buy up the best talent around the world at 16/17 because they can afford to. After 3 years they become 'Homegrown' players, but very few get into the 1st team and are discarded never to be heard of again. That is why we cannot get our Under 18 lads into Premiership big clubs, and then play for their country. Jens Lehman said the same after the World Cup. Spot on. Now the big clubs can nick our own talent for next to nothing and the small clubs suffer. The game is corrupt but we all still love it and come back for more. The worse thing is that this will never change now, hence the boring predictability of the Premier League. Why do we all aspire to get there?[/p][/quote]Money, I would think !!! Anyway, we don't need Bigheads like him. I'm too good for Watford , well get stuffed then. Poppet Bear
  • Score: 10

1:27pm Thu 7 Aug 14

garston tony says...

The Prem League teams may have come up with the new scheme but didnt all clubs have a chance to vote on it? If not tell them were to shove their compensation and take them to court for more. If league clubs did get a vote why on earth did they agree to this nonsense?!
The Prem League teams may have come up with the new scheme but didnt all clubs have a chance to vote on it? If not tell them were to shove their compensation and take them to court for more. If league clubs did get a vote why on earth did they agree to this nonsense?! garston tony
  • Score: 5

1:35pm Thu 7 Aug 14

lockerbiehornet says...

And I'll bet he's never heard of again
And I'll bet he's never heard of again lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 14

1:38pm Thu 7 Aug 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

I think that's a mistake by the kid. Already been said, but he's likely to get lost in the system now - where's Danny Webber? Harry Forrester??
Someone has again said this already, but agents are increasingly unable, or unwilling, to protect their players' long term career aspirations. Quick wins are far more important than seeing the bigger picture; but, actually, if they horizon-scanned a little bit (and had any common sense at all) they'd see that making sure their asset is properly nurtured would make them more money in the long run

In terms of the wider issue, the FA are continuing to encourage clubs to adopt exactly the model that we now have: owners with a number of clubs across borders who look for talent in other countries where financial protection from the big boys actually exists (£130k is no protection at all); send them over to England with the registration retained abroad. That way, they know that they can put the groundwork in without the risk of being sh-fted by the governing body that allegedly exists to protect them. The result? Fewer clubs putting any effort in to bring on young English players.

Well done to the FA.
I think that's a mistake by the kid. Already been said, but he's likely to get lost in the system now - where's Danny Webber? Harry Forrester?? Someone has again said this already, but agents are increasingly unable, or unwilling, to protect their players' long term career aspirations. Quick wins are far more important than seeing the bigger picture; but, actually, if they horizon-scanned a little bit (and had any common sense at all) they'd see that making sure their asset is properly nurtured would make them more money in the long run In terms of the wider issue, the FA are continuing to encourage clubs to adopt exactly the model that we now have: owners with a number of clubs across borders who look for talent in other countries where financial protection from the big boys actually exists (£130k is no protection at all); send them over to England with the registration retained abroad. That way, they know that they can put the groundwork in without the risk of being sh-fted by the governing body that allegedly exists to protect them. The result? Fewer clubs putting any effort in to bring on young English players. Well done to the FA. JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 9

1:45pm Thu 7 Aug 14

rowlingstone says...

You win some, you lose some.
You win some, you lose some. rowlingstone
  • Score: -3

1:53pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Denzil D says...

Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England...

As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.
Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England... As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation. Denzil D
  • Score: -13

2:27pm Thu 7 Aug 14

jasonwatford says...

Denzil D wrote:
Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England...

As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.
Rubbish - we offer Cat 1 coaching and facilities at Cat 3 status , Plus it would not stop Man U coming in and taking a boy if they so wished.
[quote][p][bold]Denzil D[/bold] wrote: Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England... As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - we offer Cat 1 coaching and facilities at Cat 3 status , Plus it would not stop Man U coming in and taking a boy if they so wished. jasonwatford
  • Score: 8

2:58pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Denzil D says...

jasonwatford wrote:
Denzil D wrote:
Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England...

As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.
Rubbish - we offer Cat 1 coaching and facilities at Cat 3 status , Plus it would not stop Man U coming in and taking a boy if they so wished.
We don't spend anything like the £2.5m a year required for a Cat1 academy so why would you expect it to be the same?
Also we can't offer competitive games in the U21 PDL which is a good stepping stone before loan spell(s) in Champ/League1.

Sure, if the lad's just chosen Man U because they're a big name then it would have happened anyway, but we would at least have got much more compensation.
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Denzil D[/bold] wrote: Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England... As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - we offer Cat 1 coaching and facilities at Cat 3 status , Plus it would not stop Man U coming in and taking a boy if they so wished.[/p][/quote]We don't spend anything like the £2.5m a year required for a Cat1 academy so why would you expect it to be the same? Also we can't offer competitive games in the U21 PDL which is a good stepping stone before loan spell(s) in Champ/League1. Sure, if the lad's just chosen Man U because they're a big name then it would have happened anyway, but we would at least have got much more compensation. Denzil D
  • Score: 2

3:11pm Thu 7 Aug 14

sghbnige says...

Denzil D wrote:
Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England...

As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.
There is no need for WFC to upgrade its status with the Academy. We already match/exceed what the grade 1 status's offer. EPPP is based on the Watford system.
[quote][p][bold]Denzil D[/bold] wrote: Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England... As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.[/p][/quote]There is no need for WFC to upgrade its status with the Academy. We already match/exceed what the grade 1 status's offer. EPPP is based on the Watford system. sghbnige
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Thu 7 Aug 14

SuperHorns says...

Time to dispense of the academy?
Time to dispense of the academy? SuperHorns
  • Score: -4

4:57pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Guy Bov says...

garston tony wrote:
The Prem League teams may have come up with the new scheme but didnt all clubs have a chance to vote on it? If not tell them were to shove their compensation and take them to court for more. If league clubs did get a vote why on earth did they agree to this nonsense?!
We voted against the proposals, as did I think Palace amongst others. Football League Clubs I'm afraid caved in and took money from Premier league which was effectively bribery.
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: The Prem League teams may have come up with the new scheme but didnt all clubs have a chance to vote on it? If not tell them were to shove their compensation and take them to court for more. If league clubs did get a vote why on earth did they agree to this nonsense?![/p][/quote]We voted against the proposals, as did I think Palace amongst others. Football League Clubs I'm afraid caved in and took money from Premier league which was effectively bribery. Guy Bov
  • Score: 9

4:59pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Guy Bov says...

Denzil D wrote:
Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England...

As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.
Applying for Category 1 status would have made no difference.
[quote][p][bold]Denzil D[/bold] wrote: Hopefully the club will now be seriously considering reapplying for Category 1 EPPP status. All the more so considering how much a raw, unproven player like Britt can now fetch in England... As a Cat3 we can't offer the same coaching and competitive environment as a Cat1 club - as well as having a much smaller recruitment catchment area and getting shafted on compensation.[/p][/quote]Applying for Category 1 status would have made no difference. Guy Bov
  • Score: 1

6:18pm Thu 7 Aug 14

@julesmckenzie says...

I do believe that the 130k fee is just the training fee and that there are other "add ons" dependent on the success of the player.

EPPP is unfair still. There was a petition against it but many people did not sign it. Including many from our club as a U turn happened just before (and was the reason why) the youth coach of the time left.

As a championship club we could not afford the £2mil funding that was required for Cat1 and the Pozzos rightly downgraded knowing that the reputation of our academy would still allow us to attract and cultivate quality young players.

Our sister clubs have also benefited from this with players like Panos, and we will continue to thrive as such.

I believe that if we gain promotion our Category will once again be upgraded to grade 1. If you imagine the fantastic scouting system we have alongside a quality youth system you will see the sustainability benefits that will be had.

There probably is more than meets the eye to this. At least I would hope so...
I do believe that the 130k fee is just the training fee and that there are other "add ons" dependent on the success of the player. EPPP is unfair still. There was a petition against it but many people did not sign it. Including many from our club as a U turn happened just before (and was the reason why) the youth coach of the time left. As a championship club we could not afford the £2mil funding that was required for Cat1 and the Pozzos rightly downgraded knowing that the reputation of our academy would still allow us to attract and cultivate quality young players. Our sister clubs have also benefited from this with players like Panos, and we will continue to thrive as such. I believe that if we gain promotion our Category will once again be upgraded to grade 1. If you imagine the fantastic scouting system we have alongside a quality youth system you will see the sustainability benefits that will be had. There probably is more than meets the eye to this. At least I would hope so... @julesmckenzie
  • Score: 1

6:46pm Thu 7 Aug 14

gloryhornet4 says...

I would not watch MUFC if they were playing at the end of my garden and I could see for free. For the same reason of their greed I will not pay for Sky as I would just be feeding the greedy with more money.

If we who support real clubs (those outside the top 6 or so) stopped paying our subs to Sky etc the pyramid would fall over and there would be a fire sale of their over paid prima donnas.

Then we would have the clout for more than the mouldy crumbs we get paid.
I would not watch MUFC if they were playing at the end of my garden and I could see for free. For the same reason of their greed I will not pay for Sky as I would just be feeding the greedy with more money. If we who support real clubs (those outside the top 6 or so) stopped paying our subs to Sky etc the pyramid would fall over and there would be a fire sale of their over paid prima donnas. Then we would have the clout for more than the mouldy crumbs we get paid. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 5

6:59pm Thu 7 Aug 14

YoKsHiRe.....HoRn!!!!!!! says...

What a absolute joke! No wonder the performance of the National team was so bad at the World Cup. Big teams like Man utd are sucking the life out of the game, poor lad doesn't stand a chance of ever getting in the first team. Nice one FA You bunch of clowns for letting big clubs do what they want
What a absolute joke! No wonder the performance of the National team was so bad at the World Cup. Big teams like Man utd are sucking the life out of the game, poor lad doesn't stand a chance of ever getting in the first team. Nice one FA You bunch of clowns for letting big clubs do what they want YoKsHiRe.....HoRn!!!!!!!
  • Score: 7

11:21pm Thu 7 Aug 14

soulfulhornet says...

Let's not mope over this. At least our owners have a strategy in place to counteract the misnamed elite performance plan, albeit in part.

The likes of Crewe and other hitherto lucrative sources of British talent are in the words of Dad's Army's Frazier - doomed. Hopefully not, but the bias towards the elite clubs ( not elite performance) is dangerous for English football, whose strength is the 92 club pyramid - unique to this country. Now times change so I am no luddite, but I have no confidence in the powers in our game. They seem to clutch at straws.

The example of Nat Chalobah since he left us is an example. Hope he proves me wrong but his scenrio typifies the holes in the EPP strategy.

Well at least Watford have a feed into young talent across the globe (like Arsenal had).
Let's not mope over this. At least our owners have a strategy in place to counteract the misnamed elite performance plan, albeit in part. The likes of Crewe and other hitherto lucrative sources of British talent are in the words of Dad's Army's Frazier - doomed. Hopefully not, but the bias towards the elite clubs ( not elite performance) is dangerous for English football, whose strength is the 92 club pyramid - unique to this country. Now times change so I am no luddite, but I have no confidence in the powers in our game. They seem to clutch at straws. The example of Nat Chalobah since he left us is an example. Hope he proves me wrong but his scenrio typifies the holes in the EPP strategy. Well at least Watford have a feed into young talent across the globe (like Arsenal had). soulfulhornet
  • Score: 0

11:31pm Thu 7 Aug 14

bornyellow says...

Still think the lad has jumped the gun, it must be overwhelming to be part of the United set up but will he ever break into their senior squad?...At Watford we could have developed him and have givin him a chance soon enough...good luck to the lad but I think he is running before he can walk ..
Still think the lad has jumped the gun, it must be overwhelming to be part of the United set up but will he ever break into their senior squad?...At Watford we could have developed him and have givin him a chance soon enough...good luck to the lad but I think he is running before he can walk .. bornyellow
  • Score: 1

7:49am Fri 8 Aug 14

strummerjoe says...

Let's get the next crop of promising youngsters signed to Udinese ASAP - Man U, Chelsea et al can then whistle.
Let's get the next crop of promising youngsters signed to Udinese ASAP - Man U, Chelsea et al can then whistle. strummerjoe
  • Score: 2

12:21pm Fri 8 Aug 14

@julesmckenzie says...

strummerjoe wrote:
Let's get the next crop of promising youngsters signed to Udinese ASAP - Man U, Chelsea et al can then whistle.
You wont be suprised to hear that this method of cross club contracting of youth players is becoming a lot more common.

It is seen as a "loophole" which I am sure the EPL will pay Samuels a decent backhander to write an article on how it is "all that is wrong with English football" before forcing the puppet FA to change the rules regarding foriegn ownership.

Never gonna happen while we pay Sky and BT for services...
[quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Let's get the next crop of promising youngsters signed to Udinese ASAP - Man U, Chelsea et al can then whistle.[/p][/quote]You wont be suprised to hear that this method of cross club contracting of youth players is becoming a lot more common. It is seen as a "loophole" which I am sure the EPL will pay Samuels a decent backhander to write an article on how it is "all that is wrong with English football" before forcing the puppet FA to change the rules regarding foriegn ownership. Never gonna happen while we pay Sky and BT for services... @julesmckenzie
  • Score: 1

3:07pm Fri 8 Aug 14

corbindallas says...

This is nothing new so don't get why people are moaning about it, tribunals set fees and pre the elite academy scheme it still set fees at ridiculously low values compared to potential if done on a straight transfer. Do I blame the kid wanting more money, of course not anyone who does is plain dumb as money talks, Watford could not match Man U in those stakes so no point moaning about it, it also works both ways if Watford offered silly money we could also attract potentials but it is a big gamble as the majority of these youngsters do not make it. I have said it before but paying 18/19 year olds 30k a week (Nathaniel Chaloba) is going to set a bench mark that all youngsters want sitting on a bench or not, compare that with your annual salary and you see why the big clubs will always win no matter what system is in place with silly money for raw talent on offer
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This is nothing new so don't get why people are moaning about it, tribunals set fees and pre the elite academy scheme it still set fees at ridiculously low values compared to potential if done on a straight transfer. Do I blame the kid wanting more money, of course not anyone who does is plain dumb as money talks, Watford could not match Man U in those stakes so no point moaning about it, it also works both ways if Watford offered silly money we could also attract potentials but it is a big gamble as the majority of these youngsters do not make it. I have said it before but paying 18/19 year olds 30k a week (Nathaniel Chaloba) is going to set a bench mark that all youngsters want sitting on a bench or not, compare that with your annual salary and you see why the big clubs will always win no matter what system is in place with silly money for raw talent on offer . corbindallas
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4:40pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Hornet Chris says...

Absolutely discussing!
What's the point of even having a youth system and developing your own players if the big boys can just come and pick off your best ones!
Absolutely discussing! What's the point of even having a youth system and developing your own players if the big boys can just come and pick off your best ones! Hornet Chris
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