Watford will not be appealing Joel Ekstrand's three-match ban

Nathan Redmond (pictured right) was involved in an off-the-ball clash with Joel Ekstrand which led to the Watford defender being sent off. Picture: Action Images.

Nathan Redmond (pictured right) was involved in an off-the-ball clash with Joel Ekstrand which led to the Watford defender being sent off. Picture: Action Images.

First published in Sport Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Deputy Group Sports Editor

Watford will not be appealing Joel Ekstrand's controversial red card against Norwich City or the subsequent three-match ban.

Ekstrand was sent off two minutes into the Championship contest after an off-the-ball clash with Nathan Redmond, which resulted in the Norwich winger suffering a bloody nose.

The Hornets centre back was handed a three-match suspension for violent conduct due to the use of an elbow.

Ekstrand will miss tomorrow's game with Rotherham United, Saturday's match with Leeds United and the Capital One Cup tie with Doncaster Rovers on Tuesday, August 26.

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3:31pm Mon 18 Aug 14

AngelHornet says...

A chance for Hoban to cement a place in the side
A chance for Hoban to cement a place in the side AngelHornet
  • Score: 53

3:41pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Chris the Vic says...

Not a lot to appeal about. Best save appeals for when an injustice has been done. Hope Hoban takes his chance
Not a lot to appeal about. Best save appeals for when an injustice has been done. Hope Hoban takes his chance Chris the Vic
  • Score: 28

4:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 30

4:49pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hornankey says...

No appeal. Few cries of anguish. Says it all. A liability to the club and his team mates.
No appeal. Few cries of anguish. Says it all. A liability to the club and his team mates. Hornankey
  • Score: -15

5:00pm Mon 18 Aug 14

N Joydegame says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Gloryhornet4
The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Gloryhornet4 The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place. N Joydegame
  • Score: -4

5:00pm Mon 18 Aug 14

neilhorn says...

personally i think we should have appealed, see if we can get the ban upped to 10 games
personally i think we should have appealed, see if we can get the ban upped to 10 games neilhorn
  • Score: -16

5:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Sahorn says...

Guilty as charged Joel.

We haven't heard your side of the story but no appeal speaks volumes.

Hope Hoban takes his chance and Ekstrand really has to fight his way back into the team AND I hope it is a lesson he learns well ..
Guilty as charged Joel. We haven't heard your side of the story but no appeal speaks volumes. Hope Hoban takes his chance and Ekstrand really has to fight his way back into the team AND I hope it is a lesson he learns well .. Sahorn
  • Score: 17

5:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Meadey39 says...

Hardly controversial. If the club won't appeal, then Ekstrand looked as if he flattened the player. Perhaps he wanted the rest of August off to engineer a move out of the club. Here;s hoping. Time for Tommie Hoban to be given his chance,
Hardly controversial. If the club won't appeal, then Ekstrand looked as if he flattened the player. Perhaps he wanted the rest of August off to engineer a move out of the club. Here;s hoping. Time for Tommie Hoban to be given his chance, Meadey39
  • Score: -10

5:37pm Mon 18 Aug 14

In GT We Trust says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Agreed. On the TV it was about as far as it could be from the "as black and white as Watford's shirts" as the desperate-for-an-ana
logy commentator claimed. Logic dictated that it was unlikely to be an intentionally violent act, but those who were present may feel differently if they saw it clearly.

It looked more like a player trying to shrug off someone in pursuit. Tall defender v attacker leaning forward as he runs = contact with nose = blood = must be an elbow = must be intentional = red card in the thought process of the ref. Various assumptions in there, although it could certainly be argued Ekstrand's actions showed a lack of care and so deserved a yellow card.

However, there doesn't appear to be any clear video evidence which is what would be required to win an appeal so I can see why the club aren't bothering - it's not necessarily an admission of guilt.

Interestingly the press box seemed less convinced at the time that it was justified than some on here are now!
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Agreed. On the TV it was about as far as it could be from the "as black and white as Watford's shirts" as the desperate-for-an-ana logy commentator claimed. Logic dictated that it was unlikely to be an intentionally violent act, but those who were present may feel differently if they saw it clearly. It looked more like a player trying to shrug off someone in pursuit. Tall defender v attacker leaning forward as he runs = contact with nose = blood = must be an elbow = must be intentional = red card in the thought process of the ref. Various assumptions in there, although it could certainly be argued Ekstrand's actions showed a lack of care and so deserved a yellow card. However, there doesn't appear to be any clear video evidence which is what would be required to win an appeal so I can see why the club aren't bothering - it's not necessarily an admission of guilt. Interestingly the press box seemed less convinced at the time that it was justified than some on here are now! In GT We Trust
  • Score: 49

6:11pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Gash69 says...

N Joydegame wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Gloryhornet4
The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.
Just interested, what evidence do you use to make the statement " he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face" I have watched the incident over & over again but still no clearer as to what actually happened.
[quote][p][bold]N Joydegame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Gloryhornet4 The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.[/p][/quote]Just interested, what evidence do you use to make the statement " he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face" I have watched the incident over & over again but still no clearer as to what actually happened. Gash69
  • Score: 26

6:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

stonehornet says...

I don't agree that no appeal means the club MUST believe him guilty.
It's simply a lack of clear evidence means we have no chance of overturning it.
It's like DRS in cricket, there must be cast iron conclusive evidence that the ref is wrong...and there isn't....so it won't get overturned.
I don't agree that no appeal means the club MUST believe him guilty. It's simply a lack of clear evidence means we have no chance of overturning it. It's like DRS in cricket, there must be cast iron conclusive evidence that the ref is wrong...and there isn't....so it won't get overturned. stonehornet
  • Score: 32

6:12pm Mon 18 Aug 14

philthehorn says...

Ekstrand out for good!
Ekstrand out for good! philthehorn
  • Score: -25

6:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hampshire hornet says...

Time to give Joel the elbow
Time to give Joel the elbow Hampshire hornet
  • Score: -23

6:33pm Mon 18 Aug 14

tonyevans22 says...

Some of you call yourself supporters? I thought that meant you supported the players and the squad of players,are you the same idiots that said Deeney was crap,can't shoot,offers nothing before he went on a blistering 2 season run? One minute you accuse the players of being to soft then they are castrated for getting sent off.It was hardly clear cut,and the lino took 3/4 seconds before raising his flag.Neither of the officials saw it.No one moaned about Ekstrand last week,same as no one moaned about Gomez,now according to some we need another keeper..Players will come in and out the side all season,players will get sent off,even for the softest challenges.Players will have stinkers of a game,Deeney won't score every week.We won't win every week,let's get rid of them all shall we?
Some of you call yourself supporters? I thought that meant you supported the players and the squad of players,are you the same idiots that said Deeney was crap,can't shoot,offers nothing before he went on a blistering 2 season run? One minute you accuse the players of being to soft then they are castrated for getting sent off.It was hardly clear cut,and the lino took 3/4 seconds before raising his flag.Neither of the officials saw it.No one moaned about Ekstrand last week,same as no one moaned about Gomez,now according to some we need another keeper..Players will come in and out the side all season,players will get sent off,even for the softest challenges.Players will have stinkers of a game,Deeney won't score every week.We won't win every week,let's get rid of them all shall we? tonyevans22
  • Score: 64

7:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Time to give Joel the elbow
Ha ha ha...bring back the donkey
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: Time to give Joel the elbow[/p][/quote]Ha ha ha...bring back the donkey lutondown
  • Score: -6

7:45pm Mon 18 Aug 14

gloryhornet4 says...

In GT We Trust wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Agreed. On the TV it was about as far as it could be from the "as black and white as Watford's shirts" as the desperate-for-an-ana

logy commentator claimed. Logic dictated that it was unlikely to be an intentionally violent act, but those who were present may feel differently if they saw it clearly.

It looked more like a player trying to shrug off someone in pursuit. Tall defender v attacker leaning forward as he runs = contact with nose = blood = must be an elbow = must be intentional = red card in the thought process of the ref. Various assumptions in there, although it could certainly be argued Ekstrand's actions showed a lack of care and so deserved a yellow card.

However, there doesn't appear to be any clear video evidence which is what would be required to win an appeal so I can see why the club aren't bothering - it's not necessarily an admission of guilt.

Interestingly the press box seemed less convinced at the time that it was justified than some on here are now!
Spot on. JE said he changed his run to get away as he had his shirt pulled.

Fouls are committed by pros so the ref does not see them like shirt tugs. Like the comment that it took the lino 3 to 4 secs to spot a straight red offence.

Not looking to stick up for JE but 89 secs FFS - think about it. Book him and move on. The officials turned the game thinking they were who we came to see.

No point in appealing as the officials have to be proved to have made a howler.
[quote][p][bold]In GT We Trust[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Agreed. On the TV it was about as far as it could be from the "as black and white as Watford's shirts" as the desperate-for-an-ana logy commentator claimed. Logic dictated that it was unlikely to be an intentionally violent act, but those who were present may feel differently if they saw it clearly. It looked more like a player trying to shrug off someone in pursuit. Tall defender v attacker leaning forward as he runs = contact with nose = blood = must be an elbow = must be intentional = red card in the thought process of the ref. Various assumptions in there, although it could certainly be argued Ekstrand's actions showed a lack of care and so deserved a yellow card. However, there doesn't appear to be any clear video evidence which is what would be required to win an appeal so I can see why the club aren't bothering - it's not necessarily an admission of guilt. Interestingly the press box seemed less convinced at the time that it was justified than some on here are now![/p][/quote]Spot on. JE said he changed his run to get away as he had his shirt pulled. Fouls are committed by pros so the ref does not see them like shirt tugs. Like the comment that it took the lino 3 to 4 secs to spot a straight red offence. Not looking to stick up for JE but 89 secs FFS - think about it. Book him and move on. The officials turned the game thinking they were who we came to see. No point in appealing as the officials have to be proved to have made a howler. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 21

8:13pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Sahorn says...

In GT We Trust wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Agreed. On the TV it was about as far as it could be from the "as black and white as Watford's shirts" as the desperate-for-an-ana

logy commentator claimed. Logic dictated that it was unlikely to be an intentionally violent act, but those who were present may feel differently if they saw it clearly.

It looked more like a player trying to shrug off someone in pursuit. Tall defender v attacker leaning forward as he runs = contact with nose = blood = must be an elbow = must be intentional = red card in the thought process of the ref. Various assumptions in there, although it could certainly be argued Ekstrand's actions showed a lack of care and so deserved a yellow card.

However, there doesn't appear to be any clear video evidence which is what would be required to win an appeal so I can see why the club aren't bothering - it's not necessarily an admission of guilt.

Interestingly the press box seemed less convinced at the time that it was justified than some on here are now!
This is very logical and possibly correct.

What is galling is that the club could make a short statement to end the speculation and stop the Ekstrand boo boys.

He must be feeling shI*e and the OTT remarks on here and elsewhere aren't helpful for him or the team. I want him to fight for his place and come back a better player...

So something like :-
'After internal review WFC believe the red card for Joel Ekstrand was a harsh decision. However, as there is no clear video evidence to clearly show the incident, WFC has decided not to appeal the decision.

WFC recognise that the officials have a difficult job to do and are fully supportive of referees and their assistants' blah blah
[quote][p][bold]In GT We Trust[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Agreed. On the TV it was about as far as it could be from the "as black and white as Watford's shirts" as the desperate-for-an-ana logy commentator claimed. Logic dictated that it was unlikely to be an intentionally violent act, but those who were present may feel differently if they saw it clearly. It looked more like a player trying to shrug off someone in pursuit. Tall defender v attacker leaning forward as he runs = contact with nose = blood = must be an elbow = must be intentional = red card in the thought process of the ref. Various assumptions in there, although it could certainly be argued Ekstrand's actions showed a lack of care and so deserved a yellow card. However, there doesn't appear to be any clear video evidence which is what would be required to win an appeal so I can see why the club aren't bothering - it's not necessarily an admission of guilt. Interestingly the press box seemed less convinced at the time that it was justified than some on here are now![/p][/quote]This is very logical and possibly correct. What is galling is that the club could make a short statement to end the speculation and stop the Ekstrand boo boys. He must be feeling shI*e and the OTT remarks on here and elsewhere aren't helpful for him or the team. I want him to fight for his place and come back a better player... So something like :- 'After internal review WFC believe the red card for Joel Ekstrand was a harsh decision. However, as there is no clear video evidence to clearly show the incident, WFC has decided not to appeal the decision. WFC recognise that the officials have a difficult job to do and are fully supportive of referees and their assistants' blah blah Sahorn
  • Score: 19

8:27pm Mon 18 Aug 14

There was only one Scully says...

A ref that has a proven track record for red cards rather than considering a yellow tells me its time to call him to book!
As for some of the ludicrous comments by the so called keyboard warriors on here, just stop looking for someone to blame especially when, we have incompetent officials.
By all accounts, even the lino/ref/tv did not see the incident but went on the melodramatics of Redmond!
I spoke to many Canary fans after the game who also said likewise!
A ref that has a proven track record for red cards rather than considering a yellow tells me its time to call him to book! As for some of the ludicrous comments by the so called keyboard warriors on here, just stop looking for someone to blame especially when, we have incompetent officials. By all accounts, even the lino/ref/tv did not see the incident but went on the melodramatics of Redmond! I spoke to many Canary fans after the game who also said likewise! There was only one Scully
  • Score: 17

8:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Hampshire hornet says...

-6 and dropping... And I don't mean the temperature
-6 and dropping... And I don't mean the temperature Hampshire hornet
  • Score: -3

9:11pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Tonytheaceman says...

gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Agreed, Redmond made a meal if it, need to stop these "poofter" tactics
[quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Agreed, Redmond made a meal if it, need to stop these "poofter" tactics Tonytheaceman
  • Score: 0

12:37am Tue 19 Aug 14

bornyellow says...

a man is as good as the mistakes he has made which makes him better...he will have to be replaced by another and fight for his place again...it was a stupid error to be learnt by.
a man is as good as the mistakes he has made which makes him better...he will have to be replaced by another and fight for his place again...it was a stupid error to be learnt by. bornyellow
  • Score: 0

1:27am Tue 19 Aug 14

croxley46 says...

Haven't read all the posters about Ekstrand's sending off in other articles so may have missed it but I would have thought he should have had the decency to apologise to his team-mates and the fans.
Haven't read all the posters about Ekstrand's sending off in other articles so may have missed it but I would have thought he should have had the decency to apologise to his team-mates and the fans. croxley46
  • Score: 1

8:23am Tue 19 Aug 14

corbindallas says...

N Joydegame wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Gloryhornet4
The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.
I was at the game there was no clearly about it, where do you get this info from? There is no clear evidence of the incident on video either, as far as we could make out in the crowd Ekstrand was being overtaken by Redmond so he turned around to block his run and Redmond ran straight into his arm, there is a big height difference in Ekstrand and Redmond and this probably caused the issue. You call yourself a supporter and then make a comment like smashed his face when that just wasn't the case, if the lino and ref were not sure they should have not made assumptions a yellow at worse but Redmond milked it and they brought it, it could also be dealt with retrospective by the FA if they thought it needed further punishment but at the end of the day the ref DID NOT SEE IT he was watching game play and the lino saw the aftermath and put 2 and 2 together to wave his flag like a nutter, as said in a previous comment he tried to make up for it by giving us a goal kick instead of giving Norwich a clear corner but it did not match the red card happy refereees appalling match decisions that ruined the game from the 2nd minute.
[quote][p][bold]N Joydegame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Gloryhornet4 The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.[/p][/quote]I was at the game there was no clearly about it, where do you get this info from? There is no clear evidence of the incident on video either, as far as we could make out in the crowd Ekstrand was being overtaken by Redmond so he turned around to block his run and Redmond ran straight into his arm, there is a big height difference in Ekstrand and Redmond and this probably caused the issue. You call yourself a supporter and then make a comment like smashed his face when that just wasn't the case, if the lino and ref were not sure they should have not made assumptions a yellow at worse but Redmond milked it and they brought it, it could also be dealt with retrospective by the FA if they thought it needed further punishment but at the end of the day the ref DID NOT SEE IT he was watching game play and the lino saw the aftermath and put 2 and 2 together to wave his flag like a nutter, as said in a previous comment he tried to make up for it by giving us a goal kick instead of giving Norwich a clear corner but it did not match the red card happy refereees appalling match decisions that ruined the game from the 2nd minute. corbindallas
  • Score: 16

9:19am Tue 19 Aug 14

N Joydegame says...

Gash69 wrote:
N Joydegame wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Gloryhornet4
The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.
Just interested, what evidence do you use to make the statement " he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face" I have watched the incident over & over again but still no clearer as to what actually happened.
I was sat in the main stand near the halfway line, so the incident was right in front of me. I've been watching professional football for 50+ years and can tell the difference between a simple clash and outright thuggery. I've also watched Ekstrand for the past 3 seasons and he always reverts to foul play when confronted by pace. He got caught out early in the game, threw an elbow in Redmonds face, and got sent off. We paid the price and got tanked 3-0, all down to Ekstrands poor play. It had nothing to do with the ref or the Lino, they were just doing their jobs. The Club haven't appealed which says they know the score on this too. Time to get rid, give Hoban his chance and move on. Starting with 3 points tonight.
[quote][p][bold]Gash69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Joydegame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Gloryhornet4 The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.[/p][/quote]Just interested, what evidence do you use to make the statement " he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face" I have watched the incident over & over again but still no clearer as to what actually happened.[/p][/quote]I was sat in the main stand near the halfway line, so the incident was right in front of me. I've been watching professional football for 50+ years and can tell the difference between a simple clash and outright thuggery. I've also watched Ekstrand for the past 3 seasons and he always reverts to foul play when confronted by pace. He got caught out early in the game, threw an elbow in Redmonds face, and got sent off. We paid the price and got tanked 3-0, all down to Ekstrands poor play. It had nothing to do with the ref or the Lino, they were just doing their jobs. The Club haven't appealed which says they know the score on this too. Time to get rid, give Hoban his chance and move on. Starting with 3 points tonight. N Joydegame
  • Score: -7

10:13am Tue 19 Aug 14

corbindallas says...

N Joydegame wrote:
Gash69 wrote:
N Joydegame wrote:
gloryhornet4 wrote:
Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game.

16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.
Gloryhornet4
The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.
Just interested, what evidence do you use to make the statement " he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face" I have watched the incident over & over again but still no clearer as to what actually happened.
I was sat in the main stand near the halfway line, so the incident was right in front of me. I've been watching professional football for 50+ years and can tell the difference between a simple clash and outright thuggery. I've also watched Ekstrand for the past 3 seasons and he always reverts to foul play when confronted by pace. He got caught out early in the game, threw an elbow in Redmonds face, and got sent off. We paid the price and got tanked 3-0, all down to Ekstrands poor play. It had nothing to do with the ref or the Lino, they were just doing their jobs. The Club haven't appealed which says they know the score on this too. Time to get rid, give Hoban his chance and move on. Starting with 3 points tonight.
So if you were in the main stand near the half way line you were in fact then in the Norwich supporters area as the away supporters where in the block at the end of Jarrod stand looking at the goal pitch side on and not near the half way line, perhaps your Norwich friends you were sitting with influenced your opinion of smashing his face and thuggery! As for not appealing if there is no clear video evidence and it is just Ekstrands word against match officials and Redmond it is not worth the paperwork, we have strength in depth and the club have more important things to do than wait for the ref to admit he saw nothing and the lino claim he saw everything like you did before it happend and off the ball.
[quote][p][bold]N Joydegame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gash69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]N Joydegame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gloryhornet4[/bold] wrote: Cannot understand why a ref/lino would think a player would be violent 89 secs on to a game when all they have done is shake hands at kick off time. That is what I see as wrong with officials like the red card happy ref it was our misfortune to have for this game. 16 sent off in his 35 games tells me the guy is out of step with his peers. Rob Styles was a 24 carrot Anthony Blunt so another comes of the conveyor belt to replace him.[/p][/quote]Gloryhornet4 The only person to blame for this red card is Ekstrand. The ref and linesman were given no alternative but to issue a red card when he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face. No excuses, he let himself, the team, and all us supporters down and virtually gifted Norwich 3 points and ruined our goal difference. This is not the first time his behaviour has let us down. I for one am fed up with his poor conduct, poor attitude, poor distribution and wouldn't be sorry to see him let go. Definitely time for Hoban to take his place.[/p][/quote]Just interested, what evidence do you use to make the statement " he clearly raised his elbow and smashed Redmond in the face" I have watched the incident over & over again but still no clearer as to what actually happened.[/p][/quote]I was sat in the main stand near the halfway line, so the incident was right in front of me. I've been watching professional football for 50+ years and can tell the difference between a simple clash and outright thuggery. I've also watched Ekstrand for the past 3 seasons and he always reverts to foul play when confronted by pace. He got caught out early in the game, threw an elbow in Redmonds face, and got sent off. We paid the price and got tanked 3-0, all down to Ekstrands poor play. It had nothing to do with the ref or the Lino, they were just doing their jobs. The Club haven't appealed which says they know the score on this too. Time to get rid, give Hoban his chance and move on. Starting with 3 points tonight.[/p][/quote]So if you were in the main stand near the half way line you were in fact then in the Norwich supporters area as the away supporters where in the block at the end of Jarrod stand looking at the goal pitch side on and not near the half way line, perhaps your Norwich friends you were sitting with influenced your opinion of smashing his face and thuggery! As for not appealing if there is no clear video evidence and it is just Ekstrands word against match officials and Redmond it is not worth the paperwork, we have strength in depth and the club have more important things to do than wait for the ref to admit he saw nothing and the lino claim he saw everything like you did before it happend and off the ball. corbindallas
  • Score: 12

7:15pm Tue 19 Aug 14

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