Gian Luca Nani resigns as Watford's technical director

Picture: Holly Cant

Picture: Holly Cant

First published in Sport Watford Observer: Photograph of the Author by , Deputy Group Sports Editor

Watford's technical director Gian Luca Nani has resigned after admitting he has been considering his position for some time.

"It's a decision I've had in my mind for some time now," Nani told the club website.

"I feel it is the right time for me to leave the club and I'm looking now for new challenges elsewhere.

"But I was asked to ensure everything was complete in terms of the squad and the transfer market towards the end of August. This is something I was very, very happy to do."

He added: "I believe the squad is now competitive and together we have done a great job to achieve this.

"I'm really proud to have served this wonderful club and made some fantastic progress, working with the Pozzo family - who I have known for around 20 years - and my good friend Scott Duxbury.

"I would like to thank everybody connected with the club; both the staff and the supporters for the help that they have given me always.

"I have shared in some very special moments during my time with this club. Watford will always be in my heart and I know I will be continuing to have a great relationship with the club.

"The day of the Play-Off semi-final is one that everyone remembers. This is the single moment during which I have experienced the greatest emotion working in football."

Hornets' CEO Scott Duxbury added: "We have very reluctantly accepted Gian Luca's decision.

"I fully respect his choice and it is a matter of fact that his contribution to Watford Football Club cannot in any way be underestimated.

"He will continue to be held in very high regard by the club, and, as well as being a good friend, was an accomplished technical director.

"We part on extremely amicable terms and I know that all those who hold the club in high regard will join me in wishing Gian Luca every success in the future."

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5:50pm Tue 2 Sep 14

No Wheels says...

curioser and curioser
curioser and curioser No Wheels
  • Score: 13

5:52pm Tue 2 Sep 14

The BestTrip2011 says...

Good!
Good! The BestTrip2011
  • Score: -43

5:55pm Tue 2 Sep 14

llloydwithathirdl says...

Wouldn't have the Pozzos without him. Thanks for saving us from the tool in the red hat.
Wouldn't have the Pozzos without him. Thanks for saving us from the tool in the red hat. llloydwithathirdl
  • Score: 85

5:55pm Tue 2 Sep 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

Pozzos will be off next...and we'll be left with half a squad a half a stand!
Pozzos will be off next...and we'll be left with half a squad a half a stand! PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: -127

5:55pm Tue 2 Sep 14

this is doyley!!! says...

He had his haters but I think he proved his worth during the summer.
He had his haters but I think he proved his worth during the summer. this is doyley!!!
  • Score: 69

5:56pm Tue 2 Sep 14

COGGDAVE1 says...

Hmmmmmm
Hmmmmmm COGGDAVE1
  • Score: -13

5:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Retlas says...

PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Pozzos will be off next...and we'll be left with half a squad a half a stand!
Troll!
[quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: Pozzos will be off next...and we'll be left with half a squad a half a stand![/p][/quote]Troll! Retlas
  • Score: 34

5:59pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Stoney77 says...

Very unexpected. He's had a lot of grief on the forums and on here etc (not saying that this is anything to do with his resignation) but I guess he has brought in slightly more gems than he has brought in "duds". Considering a huge percentage are not tried and tested this isn't too bad a ratio. many of the "duds" have been technically gifted, just not suited to championship style of play.

Was he solely in charge of player recruitment anyway? How much influence did the Pozzos have with regards to the players we obtained, particularly from from our sister clubs?

Will Garcia now become a Manager rather than Head Coach. I doubt it as its not the Pozzo way. Will Guidolin's new role cover Nani's repsonsibilities?

Lots of questions! Its never dull I guess.

Hoping the next headline is not "Pozzos looking to sell" !!
Very unexpected. He's had a lot of grief on the forums and on here etc (not saying that this is anything to do with his resignation) but I guess he has brought in slightly more gems than he has brought in "duds". Considering a huge percentage are not tried and tested this isn't too bad a ratio. many of the "duds" have been technically gifted, just not suited to championship style of play. Was he solely in charge of player recruitment anyway? How much influence did the Pozzos have with regards to the players we obtained, particularly from from our sister clubs? Will Garcia now become a Manager rather than Head Coach. I doubt it as its not the Pozzo way. Will Guidolin's new role cover Nani's repsonsibilities? Lots of questions! Its never dull I guess. Hoping the next headline is not "Pozzos looking to sell" !! Stoney77
  • Score: 21

6:00pm Tue 2 Sep 14

stuegs says...

Had my reservations about him, but he has contributed to the dramatic improvements to the club.
Had my reservations about him, but he has contributed to the dramatic improvements to the club. stuegs
  • Score: 29

6:05pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

We've had a few "misses" last year and in Jan but the squad assembled now is fantastic and at very little cost to us (with some help from our European partners admittedly). Perhaps he felt his role was now undermined by Guidolin ?? Wonder what he'll do next ? He'd better not head off to Leeds !!! Guess he'd have a fairly substantial non-compete, non-poach clause given the role he's had ??
We've had a few "misses" last year and in Jan but the squad assembled now is fantastic and at very little cost to us (with some help from our European partners admittedly). Perhaps he felt his role was now undermined by Guidolin ?? Wonder what he'll do next ? He'd better not head off to Leeds !!! Guess he'd have a fairly substantial non-compete, non-poach clause given the role he's had ?? Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 12

6:07pm Tue 2 Sep 14

lutondown says...

I blame Frank
I blame Frank lutondown
  • Score: -7

6:08pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

lutondown wrote:
I blame Frank
I blame Dyer and McGugan
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: I blame Frank[/p][/quote]I blame Dyer and McGugan Mickey Quinn, not so thin
  • Score: 17

6:10pm Tue 2 Sep 14

mkhornet says...

His pluses definitely outnumber his minuses. Thank you, Mr Nani and good luck.
His pluses definitely outnumber his minuses. Thank you, Mr Nani and good luck. mkhornet
  • Score: 41

6:12pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Bush Hornet says...

Stoney77 wrote:
Very unexpected. He's had a lot of grief on the forums and on here etc (not saying that this is anything to do with his resignation) but I guess he has brought in slightly more gems than he has brought in "duds". Considering a huge percentage are not tried and tested this isn't too bad a ratio. many of the "duds" have been technically gifted, just not suited to championship style of play.

Was he solely in charge of player recruitment anyway? How much influence did the Pozzos have with regards to the players we obtained, particularly from from our sister clubs?

Will Garcia now become a Manager rather than Head Coach. I doubt it as its not the Pozzo way. Will Guidolin's new role cover Nani's repsonsibilities?

Lots of questions! Its never dull I guess.

Hoping the next headline is not "Pozzos looking to sell" !!
Your last line made my blood run cold. What a hideous thought. No, the Pozzos are here for the long term and we will become an established Premiership club long before they sell up. Thank you Gian Luca for your part in assembling an amazing squad this year.
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: Very unexpected. He's had a lot of grief on the forums and on here etc (not saying that this is anything to do with his resignation) but I guess he has brought in slightly more gems than he has brought in "duds". Considering a huge percentage are not tried and tested this isn't too bad a ratio. many of the "duds" have been technically gifted, just not suited to championship style of play. Was he solely in charge of player recruitment anyway? How much influence did the Pozzos have with regards to the players we obtained, particularly from from our sister clubs? Will Garcia now become a Manager rather than Head Coach. I doubt it as its not the Pozzo way. Will Guidolin's new role cover Nani's repsonsibilities? Lots of questions! Its never dull I guess. Hoping the next headline is not "Pozzos looking to sell" !![/p][/quote]Your last line made my blood run cold. What a hideous thought. No, the Pozzos are here for the long term and we will become an established Premiership club long before they sell up. Thank you Gian Luca for your part in assembling an amazing squad this year. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 35

6:13pm Tue 2 Sep 14

andyhooked says...

Now this is a surprise!! Not a fan of Nani or of the model that allows a director of football to buy and sell with the coach having to deal with the cards that he is dealt with. Idiot comment that suggests that the Pozzos are losing interest in WFC. Troll is a kind word to call the plank that goes under such a stupid name as Pete…..
Now this is a surprise!! Not a fan of Nani or of the model that allows a director of football to buy and sell with the coach having to deal with the cards that he is dealt with. Idiot comment that suggests that the Pozzos are losing interest in WFC. Troll is a kind word to call the plank that goes under such a stupid name as Pete….. andyhooked
  • Score: 12

6:28pm Tue 2 Sep 14

chitster says...

no surprise - with the incoming Garcia i think he would want a little bit more of a say than Sanninio over the running of the club - if garcia works out this is a great call - fan for 51 years love you all
no surprise - with the incoming Garcia i think he would want a little bit more of a say than Sanninio over the running of the club - if garcia works out this is a great call - fan for 51 years love you all chitster
  • Score: 13

6:32pm Tue 2 Sep 14

jasonwatford says...

He has been working his notice since Guidolin's new role was given to him. Pozzo only need 1 tec director for all 3 clubs.
He has been working his notice since Guidolin's new role was given to him. Pozzo only need 1 tec director for all 3 clubs. jasonwatford
  • Score: 9

6:32pm Tue 2 Sep 14

endean2 says...

whatever next?

possibly a period of stability could be achived.
whatever next? possibly a period of stability could be achived. endean2
  • Score: 9

6:40pm Tue 2 Sep 14

84AGAIN says...

I'm feeling very stressed with everything that's happening. Can we just have the Koala back.........
I'm feeling very stressed with everything that's happening. Can we just have the Koala back......... 84AGAIN
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Hampshire hornet says...

endean2 wrote:
whatever next?

possibly a period of stability could be achived.
Next will be promotion.. This is all part of the business model.. Keep the faith.. Frank it's all your fault ... Hope you are drinking champagne as a middle finger to all the tools on here... Great reporting, keep up,the excellent work
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: whatever next? possibly a period of stability could be achived.[/p][/quote]Next will be promotion.. This is all part of the business model.. Keep the faith.. Frank it's all your fault ... Hope you are drinking champagne as a middle finger to all the tools on here... Great reporting, keep up,the excellent work Hampshire hornet
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Tue 2 Sep 14

goldanboy says...

Well I suppose he's got nothing to do now. Let's thank him for being around during the transition of being a club on the edge of going boobs up to a to a secure club challenging for the title. Now let's kick on and get out of this nutbag league...
Well I suppose he's got nothing to do now. Let's thank him for being around during the transition of being a club on the edge of going boobs up to a to a secure club challenging for the title. Now let's kick on and get out of this nutbag league... goldanboy
  • Score: 15

6:52pm Tue 2 Sep 14

SAHornet says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
endean2 wrote:
whatever next?

possibly a period of stability could be achived.
Next will be promotion.. This is all part of the business model.. Keep the faith.. Frank it's all your fault ... Hope you are drinking champagne as a middle finger to all the tools on here... Great reporting, keep up,the excellent work
Hear, hear - nowt wrong with Frank. Does a good job imo. I'm glad Nani has gone and hope that this will loosen the reins a bit on the coach/manager.
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: whatever next? possibly a period of stability could be achived.[/p][/quote]Next will be promotion.. This is all part of the business model.. Keep the faith.. Frank it's all your fault ... Hope you are drinking champagne as a middle finger to all the tools on here... Great reporting, keep up,the excellent work[/p][/quote]Hear, hear - nowt wrong with Frank. Does a good job imo. I'm glad Nani has gone and hope that this will loosen the reins a bit on the coach/manager. SAHornet
  • Score: 7

6:53pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Hornankey says...

A pre-condition from Garcia???
A pre-condition from Garcia??? Hornankey
  • Score: 9

7:10pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Bobbyhowfield says...

The bit of work he did to get Tozzer here on a two year deal without paying a fee was worth his salary o. It's own.
For all those so called fans that post on here I suggest you look at the team sheet from before Nani came.
I doubt if you'll see more than one name that would get in the current side.
The bit of work he did to get Tozzer here on a two year deal without paying a fee was worth his salary o. It's own. For all those so called fans that post on here I suggest you look at the team sheet from before Nani came. I doubt if you'll see more than one name that would get in the current side. Bobbyhowfield
  • Score: 31

7:21pm Tue 2 Sep 14

jasonwatford says...

Hornankey wrote:
A pre-condition from Garcia???
Nope worked his 3 month notice . Garcia does not dictate to the pozzo family , they tell him what they want and can he deliver.
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: A pre-condition from Garcia???[/p][/quote]Nope worked his 3 month notice . Garcia does not dictate to the pozzo family , they tell him what they want and can he deliver. jasonwatford
  • Score: 0

7:25pm Tue 2 Sep 14

buckler says...

Love the way all the deadwood getting pushed.. Come on Alec your next to resign.. ITK
Love the way all the deadwood getting pushed.. Come on Alec your next to resign.. ITK buckler
  • Score: -34

7:27pm Tue 2 Sep 14

hornetsteve says...

mkhornet wrote:
His pluses definitely outnumber his minuses. Thank you, Mr Nani and good luck.
I think so to-- if my memory serves me RIGHT zola Duxbury & nanni were all at west ham together in similar roles & it was nanni & Duxbury who bought the attention to the pozzos that Watford fc was a good investment & thank god they did!! the rest is history I wish him well looking back he's done a good job yes some players that have come In have not worked out but no manager HAS a 100 per cent record when it comes to players in or out, sorry to say it the big one assamblonga looks like the next kevin Philips to me !! should have loaned him out for the season!! hindsight is a great think time will tell lets all get behind Oscar Garcia & the players now, it would be great has supporters at the next game at the vic to start the first ten minutes where we left off against Huddersfield all standing & encouraging the players & our new coach on so lets BE loud, proud,& thankfull for what the pozzos are giving usCOYH
[quote][p][bold]mkhornet[/bold] wrote: His pluses definitely outnumber his minuses. Thank you, Mr Nani and good luck.[/p][/quote]I think so to-- if my memory serves me RIGHT zola Duxbury & nanni were all at west ham together in similar roles & it was nanni & Duxbury who bought the attention to the pozzos that Watford fc was a good investment & thank god they did!! the rest is history I wish him well looking back he's done a good job yes some players that have come In have not worked out but no manager HAS a 100 per cent record when it comes to players in or out, sorry to say it the big one assamblonga looks like the next kevin Philips to me !! should have loaned him out for the season!! hindsight is a great think time will tell lets all get behind Oscar Garcia & the players now, it would be great has supporters at the next game at the vic to start the first ten minutes where we left off against Huddersfield all standing & encouraging the players & our new coach on so lets BE loud, proud,& thankfull for what the pozzos are giving usCOYH hornetsteve
  • Score: 18

7:27pm Tue 2 Sep 14

ashdownforestieri says...

His going must have much to do with the arrival of Garcia. I asked a mate of mine at Brighton who is a good judge and this was his comment-just his opinion right
Did well to get Brighton to playoffs but was outthought by McLaren in the playoff semi final. Is perceived at Brighton as having been too cautious and negative despite talking a good game re attacking play. I thought he was OK if a bit negative and predictable.
We have been playing teams who I don't reckon would be promotion challengers, except Norwich. i think we will get a better perspective on this when we meet some stiffer opposition with the new coach/manager whatever he turns out to be.
His going must have much to do with the arrival of Garcia. I asked a mate of mine at Brighton who is a good judge and this was his comment-just his opinion right Did well to get Brighton to playoffs but was outthought by McLaren in the playoff semi final. Is perceived at Brighton as having been too cautious and negative despite talking a good game re attacking play. I thought he was OK if a bit negative and predictable. We have been playing teams who I don't reckon would be promotion challengers, except Norwich. i think we will get a better perspective on this when we meet some stiffer opposition with the new coach/manager whatever he turns out to be. ashdownforestieri
  • Score: 5

7:42pm Tue 2 Sep 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Quite a few bellenders having to post their bile.

His role enters the quiet season and he chose to move on. People in football leave with immediate effect so talk of 3 months notice is bollo. Not a job to serve out notice as his files in his head would be a conflict of interest.

Yes he brought in some tosh but we found homes for them all. As said above the work to get DT on board was brill. We have MV back and I would guess GLN must have played a part.

Lets stop the bollo and worry about how well we will do in the Prem Lg next season. Let's not get carried away as we will be mid table - not in Europe and the plan has to be to kick on.
Quite a few bellenders having to post their bile. His role enters the quiet season and he chose to move on. People in football leave with immediate effect so talk of 3 months notice is bollo. Not a job to serve out notice as his files in his head would be a conflict of interest. Yes he brought in some tosh but we found homes for them all. As said above the work to get DT on board was brill. We have MV back and I would guess GLN must have played a part. Lets stop the bollo and worry about how well we will do in the Prem Lg next season. Let's not get carried away as we will be mid table - not in Europe and the plan has to be to kick on. gloryhornet4
  • Score: -1

7:59pm Tue 2 Sep 14

exeterhornet says...

Honestly didn't see that happening. Not pro or anti the guy so no real opinion whether this is good or bad news. I agree with previous post stating a period of some stability would not go amiss. Beppe has put us in a position to 'kick on' and so I hope we do so, whatever the management/coaching structure is going forward.
Honestly didn't see that happening. Not pro or anti the guy so no real opinion whether this is good or bad news. I agree with previous post stating a period of some stability would not go amiss. Beppe has put us in a position to 'kick on' and so I hope we do so, whatever the management/coaching structure is going forward. exeterhornet
  • Score: 6

8:17pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Hornet Cornet says...

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
lutondown wrote:
I blame Frank
I blame Dyer and McGugan
I blame it on the boogie
[quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: I blame Frank[/p][/quote]I blame Dyer and McGugan[/p][/quote]I blame it on the boogie Hornet Cornet
  • Score: 22

8:36pm Tue 2 Sep 14

londomollari says...

Well, that was unexpected.
Without Nani and Duxbury there would be no Pozzos, only the helmet and administration. Nani and Duxbury put forward the business plan---which they were an integral part of---sold it to the Pozzos. I can't believe it was just because Garcia wanted a bigger role. I can't believe that Nani would just---go.
I dare say one day we will find out.
Good luck to you, Nani. All the best.
Well, that was unexpected. Without Nani and Duxbury there would be no Pozzos, only the helmet and administration. Nani and Duxbury put forward the business plan---which they were an integral part of---sold it to the Pozzos. I can't believe it was just because Garcia wanted a bigger role. I can't believe that Nani would just---go. I dare say one day we will find out. Good luck to you, Nani. All the best. londomollari
  • Score: 9

8:40pm Tue 2 Sep 14

errollg says...

A very decent and nice man. Yes, a few mistakes along the way, but without him we would not be where we are now. He has brought the club a long way forward and we owe him real gratitude. Best wishes Luca, good luck for the future!
A very decent and nice man. Yes, a few mistakes along the way, but without him we would not be where we are now. He has brought the club a long way forward and we owe him real gratitude. Best wishes Luca, good luck for the future! errollg
  • Score: 16

8:46pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Drewoneone says...

The role he played was part of a team I would have thought. The last few weeks have shown that the Pozzos rule the Club with a rod of iron. Nani will have brought some special skills and knowledge and looking at the quality of the squad we have now he deserves a lot of credit. However Mr Pozzo would not have allowed total independence. How do I know this? - just look at how things are run now, total focus on success with nobody bigger than the Club. Watford, Udinese and Granada stand 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively in their leagues (yes the latter 2 after one game each, I know, I know) - none of that is accidental.

Oscar Garcia will not operate as a traditional English old style manager. That is not the Pozzo model - I can't believe some posters think otherwise. We need to get used to this way of doing things because it WILL bring success. Watford FC is run better than any club in the Football League now (and probably some PL too) with an enormous pool of talent to draw on.

Never a dull moment, for all the right reasons for a change - great time to be a Hornet!
The role he played was part of a team I would have thought. The last few weeks have shown that the Pozzos rule the Club with a rod of iron. Nani will have brought some special skills and knowledge and looking at the quality of the squad we have now he deserves a lot of credit. However Mr Pozzo would not have allowed total independence. How do I know this? - just look at how things are run now, total focus on success with nobody bigger than the Club. Watford, Udinese and Granada stand 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively in their leagues (yes the latter 2 after one game each, I know, I know) - none of that is accidental. Oscar Garcia will not operate as a traditional English old style manager. That is not the Pozzo model - I can't believe some posters think otherwise. We need to get used to this way of doing things because it WILL bring success. Watford FC is run better than any club in the Football League now (and probably some PL too) with an enormous pool of talent to draw on. Never a dull moment, for all the right reasons for a change - great time to be a Hornet! Drewoneone
  • Score: 21

8:57pm Tue 2 Sep 14

EltonForever says...

NOW WE ALL NEED A PERIOD OF CALM REFLECTION PLEASE.
NOW WE ALL NEED A PERIOD OF CALM REFLECTION PLEASE. EltonForever
  • Score: 0

9:02pm Tue 2 Sep 14

soulfulhornet says...

Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more.

Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.
Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more. Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 9

9:07pm Tue 2 Sep 14

hornet of the humber says...

Poor sannino had a squad of 23 that all thought they should be first team not hard to work out who the scapegoat was
Poor sannino had a squad of 23 that all thought they should be first team not hard to work out who the scapegoat was hornet of the humber
  • Score: 6

9:12pm Tue 2 Sep 14

hornet of the humber says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more.

Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.
That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more. Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.[/p][/quote]That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos. hornet of the humber
  • Score: 0

9:18pm Tue 2 Sep 14

soulfulhornet says...

In addition and reading some of the comments above. Why would the Pozzos sell ? Even if they had not developed an emotional attachment to the club (which I believe they have), the time to maximize their investment would be after we get promoted and established as a Prem club. The value of the club would rocket 4, 5 times or even more.

The appointment of Garcia represents another seamless transition. No drama like Leeds or Palace (and many others) with a prolonged inter-regnums. I suspect Beppe when he took over and now Oscar (no proof) was a plan B that has been in place for a couple of weeks before the actual event took place. Frank's piece elsewhere suggest this.

The potential we have at Watford to become a Prem club - as much as Swansea, Stoke etc - is closer than at any time since Graham's tenure in the early 80s, and earn more money in a couple of years than Udinese and Grenada combined in a decade?
In addition and reading some of the comments above. Why would the Pozzos sell ? Even if they had not developed an emotional attachment to the club (which I believe they have), the time to maximize their investment would be after we get promoted and established as a Prem club. The value of the club would rocket 4, 5 times or even more. The appointment of Garcia represents another seamless transition. No drama like Leeds or Palace (and many others) with a prolonged inter-regnums. I suspect Beppe when he took over and now Oscar (no proof) was a plan B that has been in place for a couple of weeks before the actual event took place. Frank's piece elsewhere suggest this. The potential we have at Watford to become a Prem club - as much as Swansea, Stoke etc - is closer than at any time since Graham's tenure in the early 80s, and earn more money in a couple of years than Udinese and Grenada combined in a decade? soulfulhornet
  • Score: 3

9:25pm Tue 2 Sep 14

soulfulhornet says...

hornet of the humber wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more.

Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.
That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.
The Pozzos financed it, but why employ a technical director if he doesn;'t fulfill the role? The Pozzos are not idiots, why pay Nani a huge salary if they did not allow him to do his job? Which was to get the best players from wherever for our club.

Nani is/was a convenient cat to kick. If he was responsible for some of the failures he was also responsible for the successes too. Alternatively he was responsible for neither and the Pozzos were responsible for both.

You can't have it both ways.
[quote][p][bold]hornet of the humber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more. Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.[/p][/quote]That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.[/p][/quote]The Pozzos financed it, but why employ a technical director if he doesn;'t fulfill the role? The Pozzos are not idiots, why pay Nani a huge salary if they did not allow him to do his job? Which was to get the best players from wherever for our club. Nani is/was a convenient cat to kick. If he was responsible for some of the failures he was also responsible for the successes too. Alternatively he was responsible for neither and the Pozzos were responsible for both. You can't have it both ways. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 0

9:51pm Tue 2 Sep 14

4boys says...

Think they maybe changing direction, think Garcia will be having more influence on who comes in and out.
Just hope everyone gives him time to mould his team, maybe we will have to wait another season. Hope not.
Think they maybe changing direction, think Garcia will be having more influence on who comes in and out. Just hope everyone gives him time to mould his team, maybe we will have to wait another season. Hope not. 4boys
  • Score: 2

9:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Hampshire hornet says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
lutondown wrote:
I blame Frank
I blame Dyer and McGugan
I blame it on the boogie
Don't blame it on the boogie
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mickey Quinn, not so thin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: I blame Frank[/p][/quote]I blame Dyer and McGugan[/p][/quote]I blame it on the boogie[/p][/quote]Don't blame it on the boogie Hampshire hornet
  • Score: 3

9:58pm Tue 2 Sep 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
endean2 wrote:
whatever next?

possibly a period of stability could be achived.
Next will be promotion.. This is all part of the business model.. Keep the faith.. Frank it's all your fault ... Hope you are drinking champagne as a middle finger to all the tools on here... Great reporting, keep up,the excellent work
Totally agree, good post, some on here will probably be blaming him/Wo for Nani going
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: whatever next? possibly a period of stability could be achived.[/p][/quote]Next will be promotion.. This is all part of the business model.. Keep the faith.. Frank it's all your fault ... Hope you are drinking champagne as a middle finger to all the tools on here... Great reporting, keep up,the excellent work[/p][/quote]Totally agree, good post, some on here will probably be blaming him/Wo for Nani going lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 2

10:04pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Hampshire hornet says...

buckler wrote:
Love the way all the deadwood getting pushed.. Come on Alec your next to resign.. ITK
And Donkey please
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Love the way all the deadwood getting pushed.. Come on Alec your next to resign.. ITK[/p][/quote]And Donkey please Hampshire hornet
  • Score: -5

10:04pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Nick El Greco says...

hornet of the humber wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more.

Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.
That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.
the 20m Euros a year scouting network and the boss "i've spoke with the boss Giampaulo Pozzo" (Vydra on re-signing) nor Guidolin were even involved. Give me a break. He's a lawyer
[quote][p][bold]hornet of the humber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more. Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.[/p][/quote]That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.[/p][/quote]the 20m Euros a year scouting network and the boss "i've spoke with the boss Giampaulo Pozzo" (Vydra on re-signing) nor Guidolin were even involved. Give me a break. He's a lawyer Nick El Greco
  • Score: -3

10:15pm Tue 2 Sep 14

mickallen57 says...

Things I feel are moving ever closer to the Premier League .The Pozzos' have a model they stick to it. It seems to shake us out of our comfort zone . We are used to managers that control the players in and out. We are used to having to stick to buying cautiously ,potential rather than finished article. We are used to having to sell our stars to survive.
Now we live in a Pozzo model . We have a coach rather than manager, we have a technical director, we have an over all director of football for all three Pozzo owned clubs , we have a larger more talented squad than we ever have had.
I for one will throw my support behind the Pozzo machine and do my bit to push the Horns to the promised land.
I trust our owners ,they want what we want . They have what it takes to MAKE it happen. And they will achieve it .Come on lads lets enjoy the ride.COYH
Things I feel are moving ever closer to the Premier League .The Pozzos' have a model they stick to it. It seems to shake us out of our comfort zone . We are used to managers that control the players in and out. We are used to having to stick to buying cautiously ,potential rather than finished article. We are used to having to sell our stars to survive. Now we live in a Pozzo model . We have a coach rather than manager, we have a technical director, we have an over all director of football for all three Pozzo owned clubs , we have a larger more talented squad than we ever have had. I for one will throw my support behind the Pozzo machine and do my bit to push the Horns to the promised land. I trust our owners ,they want what we want . They have what it takes to MAKE it happen. And they will achieve it .Come on lads lets enjoy the ride.COYH mickallen57
  • Score: 9

10:21pm Tue 2 Sep 14

peter10531089 says...

The club comment that Sannino was not and refusing to, do things the Pozzo's way must have been the final indicator towards the exit door for Nani who as technical director should have been bringing the recruitment and coaching elements together - the fact that Guidolin was put into a role to oversee both Granada and ourselves would also suggest an erosion of Nani's position - making this only a matter of time
The club comment that Sannino was not and refusing to, do things the Pozzo's way must have been the final indicator towards the exit door for Nani who as technical director should have been bringing the recruitment and coaching elements together - the fact that Guidolin was put into a role to oversee both Granada and ourselves would also suggest an erosion of Nani's position - making this only a matter of time peter10531089
  • Score: -1

11:59pm Tue 2 Sep 14

hornet of the humber says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
hornet of the humber wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more.

Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.
That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.
The Pozzos financed it, but why employ a technical director if he doesn;'t fulfill the role? The Pozzos are not idiots, why pay Nani a huge salary if they did not allow him to do his job? Which was to get the best players from wherever for our club.

Nani is/was a convenient cat to kick. If he was responsible for some of the failures he was also responsible for the successes too. Alternatively he was responsible for neither and the Pozzos were responsible for both.

You can't have it both ways.
Most of the players you mentioned came from udinese or Granada so how can you thank nani for them. They would of arrived regardless. Strange how he has resigned today when the W/O usually predict it 3 weeks in advance.
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hornet of the humber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more. Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.[/p][/quote]That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.[/p][/quote]The Pozzos financed it, but why employ a technical director if he doesn;'t fulfill the role? The Pozzos are not idiots, why pay Nani a huge salary if they did not allow him to do his job? Which was to get the best players from wherever for our club. Nani is/was a convenient cat to kick. If he was responsible for some of the failures he was also responsible for the successes too. Alternatively he was responsible for neither and the Pozzos were responsible for both. You can't have it both ways.[/p][/quote]Most of the players you mentioned came from udinese or Granada so how can you thank nani for them. They would of arrived regardless. Strange how he has resigned today when the W/O usually predict it 3 weeks in advance. hornet of the humber
  • Score: 2

7:34am Wed 3 Sep 14

soulfulhornet says...

hornet of the humber wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
hornet of the humber wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more.

Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.
That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.
The Pozzos financed it, but why employ a technical director if he doesn;'t fulfill the role? The Pozzos are not idiots, why pay Nani a huge salary if they did not allow him to do his job? Which was to get the best players from wherever for our club.

Nani is/was a convenient cat to kick. If he was responsible for some of the failures he was also responsible for the successes too. Alternatively he was responsible for neither and the Pozzos were responsible for both.

You can't have it both ways.
Most of the players you mentioned came from udinese or Granada so how can you thank nani for them. They would of arrived regardless. Strange how he has resigned today when the W/O usually predict it 3 weeks in advance.
True, but they had to be chosen from a large pool. If he wasn't responsible for selecting which, then he is not responsible for those that did not work out. For example he was blamed for Merkel not working out (and several others), and they were part of the Pozzo network. Oops I almost forgot about acquisitions like Tozser, Gomes, Alumunia, Munari, Cassetti, Parades...when have they played for Udinese or Grenada.

And I repeat the Pozzos would not pay such a large salary for somebody whose job they could do themselves. That wouldn't make sense. They are wealthy, but as the transfer policy of not paying for players
[quote][p][bold]hornet of the humber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hornet of the humber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Thank you Gian Luca. Thank you for signing Almen Abdi, Fernando, Matej, Daniel Pudil, Daniel Toszer, Manuel, Gomes, Cassetti, Anya, Parades, Gabriel Angella and a few more. Yes some didn't work out (but good players) and few were out and out turkeys, but even Sir Alex, Jose and Arsene do no get it right 75% of the time let alone 100%.[/p][/quote]That was all nani and nothing to do with the pozzos.[/p][/quote]The Pozzos financed it, but why employ a technical director if he doesn;'t fulfill the role? The Pozzos are not idiots, why pay Nani a huge salary if they did not allow him to do his job? Which was to get the best players from wherever for our club. Nani is/was a convenient cat to kick. If he was responsible for some of the failures he was also responsible for the successes too. Alternatively he was responsible for neither and the Pozzos were responsible for both. You can't have it both ways.[/p][/quote]Most of the players you mentioned came from udinese or Granada so how can you thank nani for them. They would of arrived regardless. Strange how he has resigned today when the W/O usually predict it 3 weeks in advance.[/p][/quote]True, but they had to be chosen from a large pool. If he wasn't responsible for selecting which, then he is not responsible for those that did not work out. For example he was blamed for Merkel not working out (and several others), and they were part of the Pozzo network. Oops I almost forgot about acquisitions like Tozser, Gomes, Alumunia, Munari, Cassetti, Parades...when have they played for Udinese or Grenada. And I repeat the Pozzos would not pay such a large salary for somebody whose job they could do themselves. That wouldn't make sense. They are wealthy, but as the transfer policy of not paying for players soulfulhornet
  • Score: 1

7:45am Wed 3 Sep 14

soulfulhornet says...

(sorry pushed the wrong button). last sentence should read They are wealthy, but as with the transfer policy - not paying for players when they can get them for no fee - they do not waste money.
(sorry pushed the wrong button). last sentence should read They are wealthy, but as with the transfer policy - not paying for players when they can get them for no fee - they do not waste money. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 3

9:18am Wed 3 Sep 14

corbindallas says...

Absolutley delighted at this news £280,000 a year wasted in my opinion, those stating he did a fantastic job re look at the players we got from the sister clubs this was easy business, it was the ones outside the network that he did some work on and the loanees and we know how that went with more duds than positives. Asides from short memories of the past when we were left short in positions like defenders, Striker and Goal keeper. If his contribution was an introduction to Watford then that is the only positive that can be attributed but even then we had Duxbury in a key position as the CE. He's gone we have a new guy who hopefully works closer with the Head Coach, we move onward and upwards, it's not rocket science really!
Absolutley delighted at this news £280,000 a year wasted in my opinion, those stating he did a fantastic job re look at the players we got from the sister clubs this was easy business, it was the ones outside the network that he did some work on and the loanees and we know how that went with more duds than positives. Asides from short memories of the past when we were left short in positions like defenders, Striker and Goal keeper. If his contribution was an introduction to Watford then that is the only positive that can be attributed but even then we had Duxbury in a key position as the CE. He's gone we have a new guy who hopefully works closer with the Head Coach, we move onward and upwards, it's not rocket science really! corbindallas
  • Score: 0

10:18am Wed 3 Sep 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

Retlas wrote:
PeteBogHorrorHornet wrote:
Pozzos will be off next...and we'll be left with half a squad a half a stand!
Troll!
Troll yourself! Pr1ck. It was actaully meant to be a light-hearted kind of comment but then I forgot only a few posters on here are allowed to make those kind of comments. Sense of humour gone missing?
[quote][p][bold]Retlas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PeteBogHorrorHornet[/bold] wrote: Pozzos will be off next...and we'll be left with half a squad a half a stand![/p][/quote]Troll![/p][/quote]Troll yourself! Pr1ck. It was actaully meant to be a light-hearted kind of comment but then I forgot only a few posters on here are allowed to make those kind of comments. Sense of humour gone missing? PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 1

11:48am Wed 3 Sep 14

worthing_hornet says...

naive of me i know but why is his going a signal that the Pozzos are also about to go? They appointed him didn't they?
naive of me i know but why is his going a signal that the Pozzos are also about to go? They appointed him didn't they? worthing_hornet
  • Score: 0

2:01pm Wed 3 Sep 14

bushey tales says...

"I fully respect his choice and it is a matter of fact that his contribution to Watford Football Club cannot be underestimated," says Duxbury. Erm........shouldn't that be 'overestimated,' Scott? Or maybe not.
"I fully respect his choice and it is a matter of fact that his contribution to Watford Football Club cannot be underestimated," says Duxbury. Erm........shouldn't that be 'overestimated,' Scott? Or maybe not. bushey tales
  • Score: 1

2:23pm Wed 3 Sep 14

PeteBogHorrorHornet says...

andyhooked wrote:
Now this is a surprise!! Not a fan of Nani or of the model that allows a director of football to buy and sell with the coach having to deal with the cards that he is dealt with. Idiot comment that suggests that the Pozzos are losing interest in WFC. Troll is a kind word to call the plank that goes under such a stupid name as Pete…..
What's in a name...? I've seen worse on here! Reading the comments a number of others have had the same thought. Who's the plank now?
[quote][p][bold]andyhooked[/bold] wrote: Now this is a surprise!! Not a fan of Nani or of the model that allows a director of football to buy and sell with the coach having to deal with the cards that he is dealt with. Idiot comment that suggests that the Pozzos are losing interest in WFC. Troll is a kind word to call the plank that goes under such a stupid name as Pete…..[/p][/quote]What's in a name...? I've seen worse on here! Reading the comments a number of others have had the same thought. Who's the plank now? PeteBogHorrorHornet
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Wed 3 Sep 14

soulfulhornet says...

Another point and one which I do not think has been considered.

In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month.

From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment.

There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride.

No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position.
Another point and one which I do not think has been considered. In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month. From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment. There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride. No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 0

4:35pm Wed 3 Sep 14

bushey tales says...

soulfulhornet wrote:
Another point and one which I do not think has been considered.

In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month.

From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment.

There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride.

No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position.
I take the point but wasn't that just him doing his job? Simplistically the Pozzo's airlifted players in, Zola gave them a shape and coached the side, Duxbury ran the club day-to-day while Nani administered transfers, in and out. I mean, Ron Rollitt and Ken Furphy used to do the whole lot between them - and flog the tickets!
[quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Another point and one which I do not think has been considered. In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month. From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment. There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride. No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position.[/p][/quote]I take the point but wasn't that just him doing his job? Simplistically the Pozzo's airlifted players in, Zola gave them a shape and coached the side, Duxbury ran the club day-to-day while Nani administered transfers, in and out. I mean, Ron Rollitt and Ken Furphy used to do the whole lot between them - and flog the tickets! bushey tales
  • Score: 1

10:48pm Wed 3 Sep 14

neil-bs says...

Hornankey wrote:
A pre-condition from Garcia???
Of course not.
[quote][p][bold]Hornankey[/bold] wrote: A pre-condition from Garcia???[/p][/quote]Of course not. neil-bs
  • Score: 0

11:06pm Wed 3 Sep 14

neil-bs says...

bushey tales wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Another point and one which I do not think has been considered.

In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month.

From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment.

There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride.

No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position.
I take the point but wasn't that just him doing his job? Simplistically the Pozzo's airlifted players in, Zola gave them a shape and coached the side, Duxbury ran the club day-to-day while Nani administered transfers, in and out. I mean, Ron Rollitt and Ken Furphy used to do the whole lot between them - and flog the tickets!
Never been happy with having Nani and Duxbury at the club. Good for us that they convinced the Pozzos to come in but their antics at West Ham should have been enough to get them both a lifetime ban from profi football. Nani has gone so just have to hope that Duxbury will be on his way soon.
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Another point and one which I do not think has been considered. In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month. From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment. There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride. No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position.[/p][/quote]I take the point but wasn't that just him doing his job? Simplistically the Pozzo's airlifted players in, Zola gave them a shape and coached the side, Duxbury ran the club day-to-day while Nani administered transfers, in and out. I mean, Ron Rollitt and Ken Furphy used to do the whole lot between them - and flog the tickets![/p][/quote]Never been happy with having Nani and Duxbury at the club. Good for us that they convinced the Pozzos to come in but their antics at West Ham should have been enough to get them both a lifetime ban from profi football. Nani has gone so just have to hope that Duxbury will be on his way soon. neil-bs
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9:24am Mon 8 Sep 14

corbindallas says...

neil-bs wrote:
bushey tales wrote:
soulfulhornet wrote:
Another point and one which I do not think has been considered.

In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month.

From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment.

There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride.

No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position.
I take the point but wasn't that just him doing his job? Simplistically the Pozzo's airlifted players in, Zola gave them a shape and coached the side, Duxbury ran the club day-to-day while Nani administered transfers, in and out. I mean, Ron Rollitt and Ken Furphy used to do the whole lot between them - and flog the tickets!
Never been happy with having Nani and Duxbury at the club. Good for us that they convinced the Pozzos to come in but their antics at West Ham should have been enough to get them both a lifetime ban from profi football. Nani has gone so just have to hope that Duxbury will be on his way soon.
The worse of the 2 has gone and Duxbury keeps a low profile, at the end of the day we all know it is Gino running the helm not Duxbury and the recent changes are his making and only his, resignations they may have been but it was a resign or get pushed situation no doubt. With Young and Garcia I hope a breath of fresh air is installed into the whole club running and this motivates us onward and upwards!
[quote][p][bold]neil-bs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]soulfulhornet[/bold] wrote: Another point and one which I do not think has been considered. In the summer of 2012, when all the loanees arrived, do you think all the paperwork, selection of the players, persuading them to come and all the associated work etc could have been achieved solely by Zola? In the timeframe of a month. From what I recall, the takeover was protracted with the devil being in the detail. Not surprisingly given the dire financial situation the club was in. This meant that there were delays in signing players (with embargos being mentioned). If you remember Almunia and Fitz's contracts took ages to go through and then the loanees all came in at the last moment. There is no way in the world that Gianfranco could have conducted all that business and coached the existing players in pre-season in the foreshortened time that the takeover permitted. Nani's support must have been crucial getting the loanees on the books. And if he had not? Then we would have had a season (or at least until January) of Dickinson's, Big Chris, Garner, Hodson et al. I doubt we would have been in the play-offs if that was the case. Nani must have worked his socks off in August 2012 and it is a tribute GFZ and and to a lesser extent him that we achieved what achieved. No wonder he views the play-off semi at the Vic with such affection and pride. No he was not without shortcomings, but who is. And yes last summer the signings did not work on the whole. Two sets of wholesale changes was always a tall order. And now we have 3. The results so far have been better, but the disruption of another 9 or 10 signings has manifested itself in another way, unfortunately. I hope and trust Oscar is up to that no easy task...still better to have a top notch squad than be in Blackpool's position.[/p][/quote]I take the point but wasn't that just him doing his job? Simplistically the Pozzo's airlifted players in, Zola gave them a shape and coached the side, Duxbury ran the club day-to-day while Nani administered transfers, in and out. I mean, Ron Rollitt and Ken Furphy used to do the whole lot between them - and flog the tickets![/p][/quote]Never been happy with having Nani and Duxbury at the club. Good for us that they convinced the Pozzos to come in but their antics at West Ham should have been enough to get them both a lifetime ban from profi football. Nani has gone so just have to hope that Duxbury will be on his way soon.[/p][/quote]The worse of the 2 has gone and Duxbury keeps a low profile, at the end of the day we all know it is Gino running the helm not Duxbury and the recent changes are his making and only his, resignations they may have been but it was a resign or get pushed situation no doubt. With Young and Garcia I hope a breath of fresh air is installed into the whole club running and this motivates us onward and upwards! corbindallas
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