11:23am Sunday 16th December 2007
AIDY BOOTHROYD declined to use the Al Bangura case as a mitigating factor behind another wretched home display by his stuttering side, insisting the 1-0 defeat at the hands of Plymouth was a "fair result".
"It would be a great opportunity for me to blame the Al Bangura situation, to blame flu and to blame injuries but that is all part of a season," said the manager. "We are professionals and we have to get on with it so I wouldn't use that as an excuse.
"We are very disappointed to have lost the game," he added. "We had enough chances to win but we also had enough warnings to lose it. We didn't heed those warnings and didn't take those chances so therefore it is a fair result."
Boothroyd did little to prevent his side from sliding to yet another home defeat. He took too long to replace the ineffective Tamas Priskin with Nathan Ellington, strangely replaced the lively Lionel Ainsworth at half-time, and played Tommy Smith - Watford's most influential player of late - out of position on the left.
"Lionel came in and did reasonably well," said the manager. "He was never going to come in and be a regular but he reminds me of Aaron Lennon. He has got a bit to do but he'll be a terrific player."
Mark, Watford says...
1:33pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Voice of reason, Watford says...
1:37pm Sun 16 Dec 07
smiler, bretagne says...
1:48pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Undeluded, seeing it how it is says...
2:31pm Sun 16 Dec 07
colin, says...
2:42pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Mark, Watford says...
2:51pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Bill, watford says...
3:56pm Sun 16 Dec 07
doogle4, bovy says...
4:25pm Sun 16 Dec 07
chris, hemel says...
4:32pm Sun 16 Dec 07
It was definately, Side says...
4:55pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Bill, watford says...
5:11pm Sun 16 Dec 07
colin, says...
5:57pm Sun 16 Dec 07
steve, hemel hempstead says...
6:39pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Smith, Bushey says...
7:41pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Neil Young, Broken Arrow says...
8:14pm Sun 16 Dec 07
ozzy, londonn says...
8:31pm Sun 16 Dec 07
smiler wrote:hav yu takin my posts of/
Well, you gotta hand it to the gaffer. He is honest and takes the responsibility. I agree, with nick middlesex. The only way is up now. All the teams around us and indeed in this division are a much of a muchness. Come on!
I also know that Colin and Affleck are one the same. I asked for one of Colins vicious posts to be removed last week......and it wasn't, despite asking on three separate occasions. I wonder why?
johnny b, bushey says...
9:42pm Sun 16 Dec 07
Undeluded wrote:Who is this stupid person..
\"the only way is up\"???
hahaha! you gotta be joking mate! WFC have just given up the highest spot they\'re likely to reach in a long, long time! it\'s all downhill from now and that direction is infinite - I can see WFC playing against the likes of Bushey Rangers in a few seasons time! ... if they\'re lucky!!!
hornetboy84, ricky says...
10:03pm Sun 16 Dec 07
colin, says...
11:08pm Sun 16 Dec 07
dave, sandridge says...
11:17pm Sun 16 Dec 07
smiler wrote:Just out of interest which post did you ask to be removed, under which headline? Guessing from your post its still on here so why not tell everyone and let us judge if its vicious or not?
Well, you gotta hand it to the gaffer. He is honest and takes the responsibility. I agree, with nick middlesex. The only way is up now. All the teams around us and indeed in this division are a much of a muchness. Come on!
I also know that Colin and Affleck are one the same. I asked for one of Colins vicious posts to be removed last week......and it wasn't, despite asking on three separate occasions. I wonder why?
colin, says...
11:21pm Sun 16 Dec 07
JOHN, says...
5:02am Mon 17 Dec 07
Paul, Hemel says...
8:04am Mon 17 Dec 07
hornetboy84 wrote:Hornet Boy - Are you yourself not a little worried that the manager seems to have no plan B and no different approach to play?!? You also state that "this is a challenge". I agree, it is a challenge. At what point though do you decide to change things rather than continue with an attitude of apathy that suggests "oh, well, we would have settled for this two years ago..." - do you wait until we are 6th? 10th? 15th?.. That I think is the point that most of these posts make - Aidy does not seem to have a plan B in any way shape or form.
Colin - You miss the point. It is not AB who is out of his depth - it is WFC. We are in a position beyond what the size of our club deserves. Why? Because of AB. Why before. Because of GT. He is not perfect. He will make mistakes - just like GT --- but he is ours, is the longest serving manager in this division (which should tell you something) and we are lucky to have him. All tue Watford fans know this and I am as sure as hell not going to let idiots like you present an opinion that is not shared by 99% of Watford fans. If you want to be fickle - go support someone else. We are all frustrated at the moment - but this is a challenge and real fans get behind their club no matter what,. Or .. we may just chase him away and then see what happens!! -- Be careful what you wish for Colin!!! How is the rest of your life .... always half-empty I presume !!! HB84
Berko Horn, says...
9:33am Mon 17 Dec 07
johnny b, bushey says...
10:45am Mon 17 Dec 07
colin wrote:Colin.
Horney boy
That is a very tired argument, and a very convenient one for the current board and manager to hide behind.
Forget where we were 30-40 years ago, apart from two seasons, WFC have been in the top two divisions for the last quarter of a century.
Yes there are bigger clubs than us in this division, but there are also other clubs considerably smaller and with far less finanicial clout.
By your logic the likes of Wigan, Charlton, Bolton et al are equally condemned to life propping up the championship.
I'm sorry but this is no longer a valid argument; it is a get out clause for happy clappers like you and an apology for the current failures on and off the pitch.
We came down from the premiership with a wonderful opportunity to take this team to the next level; what has happened instead, under the mismanagement of Boothroyd, is that we have got significantly worse.
You might hide behind the "little watford" mentality but don't ask others to. You're living in the past mate.
Open-eyed onlooker, on the outside says...
10:48am Mon 17 Dec 07
Oxhey Fez, London says...
11:08am Mon 17 Dec 07
... onlooker, says...
11:36am Mon 17 Dec 07
Al, York says...
11:58am Mon 17 Dec 07
boingboing, goinup says...
3:22pm Mon 17 Dec 07
Paul, Hemel says...
3:52pm Mon 17 Dec 07
boingboing wrote:Some fair points there "boingboing" and I agree with you that some of the posts relating to "get the prat out" and "useless" and total "freefall" are a bit OTT and at times very personal to AB. However, I think we do all have the club at heart and Colin makes some very, very good points - just wish he'd lay of the personal attacks now and agin. However, what is frustrating me and I think many of the posters on here is the MANNER in whisch we seem to have capitulated. In the past few games that I have been to I have seen nothing that suggests that AB has a plan B. The Football is aimless, one dimentional and if you had been to the matches you would have noticed some of the most bizarre dscision making from a manager: Leading golscorer on the wing? Midfielder for a Centre half..?? Most influential wing man over the past few games played out of posuition...??? Some auite baffling signings....???? It is this element that is frustrating people.
I was advised to read this section by a regular season ticket holder at watford... Now i thought he was exagerating with the amount of negativity on this site, However i think he underestimated the cancer that is spreading through the ranks of your club through people like colin. I support WBA and obviously am pleased at reaching the summit, but if you think its all roses at the Hawthorns you are sadly mistaken, For months we couldnt hold a lead and we always took our foot of the gas when we did.. Also last season we were favourites for the title but we faultered and stutered our way to the play off finals and then didnt turn up. but apart from a few fickle fans we stuck by our manager and our team and are now seeing the rewards. before anyone says i dont know what i am talking about i have been to a few watford games and watched them on tv and yes although the tactics are a little predictable it has still been effective 90% of the time, apart from the game against us (that was our best performance of the season), so now your going through a sticky patch and you call for the managers head ! , the one manager who shows true passion and grit in this division and you want him gone .... unbelievable !!!! For the sake of all the other teams in the division i think its a good thing if you force him out, then hopefully we can all reap the rewards, however for the sake of your own team get a grip, your not a Man utd or Arsenal but you talk as if you are.. You could be a Norwich, Shef Wed, Shef utd or even Leeds who are all bigger clubs that have gone through much worse !!! .. Why dont you support the manager who has given you your best success since Graham Taylor and see if it takes you somewhere, if it doesnt then throw your toys out of your pram and get rid of him... Anyway all the best and for our sakes I hope you carry on with your petty whinging ......
boingboing, goinup says...
4:11pm Mon 17 Dec 07
doogle4, bovy says...
4:42pm Mon 17 Dec 07
Paul, Hemel says...
4:54pm Mon 17 Dec 07
sack em all! wrote:That's a bit harsh... still, we're all entitled to our opinion so maybe you could enlighten me with your own, no doubt vastly intellectual assessment :-)
The Albion fan sees it logically. Colin is a poisonous toad with nothing good to say. PAUL U R JUST THICK..
Voice of reason, Watford says...
5:34pm Mon 17 Dec 07
doogle4 wrote:Hey Doogle.....
steve from hemel says GT would never have bought lots of players that boothroyd has, How does he know ? is he using his crstal ball or has he just phoned GT ?.. every manager including the greats like ferguson, wenger and even GT have bought players that havent done it for their teams at some point, its part and parcel of the game called football ....
Ex Pat, Watford says...
5:53pm Mon 17 Dec 07
doogle4, bovy says...
5:57pm Mon 17 Dec 07
Voice of reason, Watford says...
6:10pm Mon 17 Dec 07
doogle4, bovy says...
6:17pm Mon 17 Dec 07
chris, the vic says...
6:35pm Mon 17 Dec 07
PJP, Watford says...
6:46pm Mon 17 Dec 07
Scotshorn, Aberdeen says...
7:46pm Mon 17 Dec 07
doogle4, bovy says...
7:56pm Mon 17 Dec 07
Voice of reason, Watford says...
8:00pm Mon 17 Dec 07
GaryQE2, London says...
10:31pm Mon 17 Dec 07
chris, kings langley says...
10:41pm Mon 17 Dec 07
anon, watford says...
8:15am Tue 18 Dec 07
smiler, bretagne says...
9:31am Tue 18 Dec 07
WFC & proud, Watford says...
4:33pm Tue 18 Dec 07
colin, says...
8:06am Wed 19 Dec 07
WFC & proud wrote:You have a short memory. Supporters were fond of Vialli. People like you would be slating off anyone who criticised him at the time he was in power just like you are doing today.
To the "fans" that obviously want blood: Shall we bring back Jim Bonser & Dave Bassett as your dream team, then? Or just the two bald blokes from Italy & England that tried to take us out of existence in the 90's with their astute transfer dealings?(ITV Digital collapsing had nothing to do with who they'd bought). Transfers & buildign a team are not exact sciences or available in recipes from cordon bleu chefs; there's a lot of hard work, mistakes, pain & effort involved - just take a look at all the top clubs in any country. And while I'm on a roll, I'm rather tired of the "fans" who turn-up at the Vic to moan & not support; naff off back to the hugely successful clubs you seem to no longer be able to afford to watch & let Watford fans "enjoy the ride". Places like Bury in December spring to mind...
WFC & proud, Watford says...
1:49pm Wed 19 Dec 07
WFC & proud, Watford says...
2:38pm Wed 19 Dec 07
WFC & proud, Watford says...
7:10pm Wed 19 Dec 07
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nick, middlesex says...
1:30pm Sun 16 Dec 07