Hornets facing huge task
1:50pm Sunday 11th May 2008
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Watford will need to prove exactly why they had the best away record in the Championship this season at the KC Stadium on Wednesday if they are to get to the play-off final at Wembley after Hull City claimed a 2-0 first leg advantage at Vicarage Road this afternoon.
Goals from Nick Barmby and Dean Windass put the visitors in the ascendancy before the Hornets suffered another blow when John Eustace appeared to be the victim of a harsh red card.
But the margin of victory was tough on the Hornets, who produced one of their better home displays of the campaign but could find no way past keeper Boaz Myhill and his resolute defence.
Most of the signs in the build-up to the game were that Aidy Boothroyd would bring in Tamas Priskin to replace the suspended Darius Henderson, but the manager shelved that idea and instead opted to bring in Lionel Ainsworth, suggesting that a change in formation was on the cards.
Boothroyd's counterpart Phil Brown, meanwhile, made two changes to the side that went down 1-0 at Ipswich Town in the last game of the regular season, with Richard Garcia and Barmby replacing Dean Marney and Caleb Folan.
Watford started with a 4-3-3 formation, with Ainsworth and Jobi McAnuff providing the support to Nathan Ellington from out wide, and it was the home side that had the first sniff of an opening inside two minutes when Tommy Smith glanced a Mat Sadler corner from the right well wide.
Within 90 seconds McAnuff did very well to cut in between two opponents on the left and produce a blistering right-footed effort that was deflected over. From McAnuff's resultant corner, the Hornets thought they had taken the lead when Dan Shittu rose to power home a close-range header, but referee Kevin Friend adjudged that Leigh Bromby had impeded keeper Myhill.
More controversy followed soon after when Windass went in late on Richard Lee but the referee let the veteran striker off with a good talking to.
But after eight minutes Vicarage Road was plunged into silence. Following a Hornets throw on the left that was flicked on, the ball was played back towards the Watford area and a complete misunderstanding saw Shittu and Sadler both go up to challenge for the ball and only succeed in diverting the ball into the path of Fraizer Campbell, who cut in from the right side of the area and picked out the unmarked Barmby and he made no mistake from ten yards to give the Tigers a 1-0 lead.
However, that blow didn't seem to affect the Hornets too much, although they had to wait until the 15th minute for their next opening when Ellington was unable to turn a McAnuff cross from the left on target after good work by the Hornets' wide-man, Smith and Lee Williamson.
The Hull boss then complained vociferously when he thought his side should have been awarded a penalty after Garcia appeared to be shoved in the back in the area, before Ainsworth sent over a good cross from the right that Ellington was unable to get to.
But Watford were undone by Hull's thought and movement again after 22 minutes. Garcia played a delightful cross-field pass from left to right to Barmby, who fed the overlapping Andy Dawson. His cross was met by Campbell, whose header looked to be going in but was deflected onto the bar by Bromby, but Windass reacted sharply to head in the rebound and give the visitors a very healthy 2-0 lead.
The Hornets could have one back five minutes later when more good work by McAnuff created an opening for Elington, but he was closed down quickly by Dawson and his eventual effort was deflected behind.
But from possibly being 2-1 down Watford could have found themselves trailing 3-0 when a shocking error by Lloyd Doyley let in Campbell, who teed up Windass, but the striker could only harmlessly lift the ball into the arm's of Lee.
But McAnuff, who was Watford's brightest light in the first-half, brought the best out of Myhill after 36 minutes with a sweetly-struck rising right-footed drive that the keeper did very well to tip over. From Sadler's resultant corner, Smith really should have scored, but he appeared to lose the flight of the ball and glanced it wide of a near open target from barely three yards out.
The Hornets continued to have plenty of possession around the Hull box in the run-up to the break, but the build-up was very ponderous at times and lacking tempo.
Campbell rather stupidly got himself booked just before the interval for delaying a free-kick, before a well-struck Smith effort from the edge of the area forced Myhill to tip over.
Despite the scoreline - and in a marked contrast to recent home games when they have been trailing - Watford were applauded from the pitch as the faithful did their best to encourage the players, despite trailing 2-0.
The Hornets made a positive start to the second period and almost got one back three minutes in when Doyley's long throw was flicked on by Shittu and deflected onto the roof of the bar. From the resultant corner, Ellington got down at the near post to glance goalwards but Myhill made a smart save. But that was nothing compared to what was to follow moments later.
Some neat footwork by Shittu towards the left saw him create a crossing opportunity, but he pulled the ball back towards the edge of the area where Sadler met it perfectly with a left-footed volley that was heading inside Myhill's right-hand post until the keeper somehow got across full length to push it behind.
There were signs that temperatures were beginning to boil over and they did just short of the hour when Eustace went in to challenge the grounded Garcia, who proceeded to roll over clutching his ankle. The Watford skipper did get involved in a pushing match thereafter but there appeared to be no real justification for the red card the referee produced afterwards.
The Hornets also lost Shittu to injury during the stoppage in play and he was replaced by Jay DeMerit. Craig Fagan then came on to replace Barmby and Windass made way for Folan. In between times though, Smith forced another good stop out of Myhill after a McAnuff corner found him unmarked at the far post.
But Campbell spurned a great opportunity to put the tie out of reach after 72 minutes when he was put clear on goal, but Lee came off his line and blocked his shot. Boothroyd played his hand soon after, bringing on John-Joe O'Toole and Priskin for Doyley and Ainsworth, while Nathan Doyle came on for Garcia.
Priskin's impact was almost immediate, doing well to dispossess Sam Ricketts on the left before rifling in a shot that Myhill could only push back out into the area. Then a long Bromby free-kick came within inches of picking out the diving DeMerit at the far post, while at the other end Doyle shot straight at Lee.
But Doyle came within inches of putting the tie to bed after 81 minutes with a left-footed curling shot that beat the dive of the Watford keeper but rebounded out off his right-hand post.
The Hornets kept looking for a potentially priceless goal and they almost got it twice in the closing stages when, first, Brombt had a shot blocked, and then Priskin headed narrowly wide of Myhill's right-hand upright from a DeMerit cross.
But in injury-time, Lee was forced to make a fine save to keep out Campbell's curling effort after the on-loan striker had turned Bromby inside out.
To rate the performances of the players against Hull, click here
Watford: Lee; Doyley (O'Toole, 73), Bromby, Shittu (DeMerit, 59), Sadler; Smith, Eustace, Williamson; Ainsworth (Priskin, 73), Ellington, McAnuff. Not used: Mariappa and Poom.
Hull City: Myhill; Ricketts, Turner, Brown, Dawson; Garcia (Doyle, 73), Hughes, Ashbee, Barmby (Fagan, 64); Windass (Folan, 68), Campbell. Not used: Walton and Duke.
Bookings: Campbell for dissent after 45 mins; Eustace sent off for violent conduct after 59 mins; Priskin for a foul on Campbell after 78 mins.
Attendance: 14,713.
Referee: Kevin Friend.
Your Say YourWatford Observer
Dorset Hornet, New Forest says...
2:10pm Sun 11 May 08
Vicar Rage, says...
2:20pm Sun 11 May 08
Certainly had no luck today. However, bearing in mind we won one of our last 14 in the regular season, and lost our last three at home, we probably used up our luck by just staying in the top six.
I wonder if those behind the scenes are nervously thumbing through the famous 'plan B'?
Des, Hatch End says...
2:23pm Sun 11 May 08
The ref was a biased fool and spoilt the game for us.
Eustace shouldn't have been sent off but his reaction might well earn him another ban and fine.
Most of the team played well,although defensively all bar Lee were found wanting.
Hull will score in the second leg so we have,virtually,no chance.
It's a shame Hoofers only changed to 451(or 4411 if you prefer)when he became desperate because several weeks of this formation would have resulted in different results/performances
.
Let's hope for our fair share of luck on Wednesday and a better ref.
Des
Erik, Lincoln says...
2:26pm Sun 11 May 08
Loidis, Norway says...
2:38pm Sun 11 May 08
But this tie is not over. An early Watford-goal at Hull, and it's game on!
It's not going to be easy, but this is not a mission impossible!
Vicar Rage, says...
2:46pm Sun 11 May 08
We had our chances to day, but generally from distance. If we were getting behind teams more, I'd fancy us.
Plus, we've only score more than one goal in one of our last 12 games.
I think a clean sheet is the key on Wednesday. If we concede, I think it's curtains.
slasherr, londun says...
2:49pm Sun 11 May 08
singapore smiff, Singapore says...
2:53pm Sun 11 May 08
James, Watford says...
3:01pm Sun 11 May 08
hornetcarp, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE says...
3:03pm Sun 11 May 08
obviously all the good ones are reffing prem games today.
i thought we played really well (apart from 2 lapses in defence costing 2 goals!) and if it wasn't for their keeper (myhill) and the ref we could have won convincingly!
if only we could have nicked a goal back....
Mark, Watford says...
3:05pm Sun 11 May 08
Cannot see us getting 3 goals sadly at the KC.
Oh well...felt more positive with some of the guys that n the past.
Ellington however can just go elsewhere if he's not going to bother up front because the otherwise attacking players did try.
Our defence was shaky everywhere I have to say and did not see what Eustace did exactly.
Oh well...we were never good enough to go up.
Metal Mickey, Iver Bucks says...
3:07pm Sun 11 May 08
Tigrrr, Home @ Dry says...
3:41pm Sun 11 May 08
James, Watford says...
3:47pm Sun 11 May 08
chris, the vic says...
3:54pm Sun 11 May 08
First and foremost we were beaten fairly by Barnsley and clapped their team off...then we were beaten by Scunthorpe and again applauded their team off, then today we were beaten by a team that cheated, had the ref in their pocket hoofed the ball far more than us and who had an excellent goalkeeper.
Shittu has more class than your no 15 will ever attain, and yes our centre halves made a bad mistake each but then Shittu had scored a goal.
Your manager seemed unable to stay in his area saw fouls that werent and ignored fouls that were...a bit like his mate Mr Friend.
Based on the two games so far Bristol played by far the better football, but the three other teams would struggle badly in the premier.
We have at last started to see a team play football and subject to some fine tuning must have a great chance next year.
Message for Sage..hope you watched Myhill he was the difference today...and maybe just maybe in the next 90 mins we will give a very arrogant hull a game to humble them.
hornetchris61, garston says...
4:00pm Sun 11 May 08
as for that tiger calling us long ball merchants, well not today we were'nt. If we play like this on weds, grab an early one, who knows. if not lets hope aidy keeps faith with the new style of football, the players can play it, and the crowd can appreicate it even if we lose.
Stevie, says...
4:03pm Sun 11 May 08
Hull are most likely to go through now but if they do go up hope they enjoy the one season as they will not survive, as will none of the teams promoted in the play-off.
Championship again next season...thats not so bad.
brian Stansell, watford says...
4:39pm Sun 11 May 08
canadian_hornet, Canada says...
4:44pm Sun 11 May 08
bonserout, watford says...
4:44pm Sun 11 May 08
Stevie, says...
4:44pm Sun 11 May 08
4boys, Hemel hempstead says...
5:09pm Sun 11 May 08
And it will be washed a lot more often if this manager is still in charge next season.
On the Boothroyds E-mail he said this has been a season of progression, "WHERE"
All I see is a team falling apart No morale No Ideas No tactics and very little skill We are a worse side than the last two seasons.
Alwaysahornet, Bletchley says...
5:11pm Sun 11 May 08
Stevie wrote:said a couple of weeks ago that prices should've been reduced to fill the ground,but Watford choose to make afew pounds more instead.Need to go all out attack now with nothing to lose.GOOD LUCK!
Where was everyone today??
jonty, Watford says...
5:35pm Sun 11 May 08
dal8oy, Beds says...
5:37pm Sun 11 May 08
....................
...........not that its over yet, but i can hear the fat lady warming up.
dal8oy, Beds says...
5:41pm Sun 11 May 08
Tigrrr wrote:Yes. Hull....number 1 in the book of crap towns! Says it all.
You got exactly what you deserved, Long ball merchants like you always get caught out, As for the fan who thought the refs name was ironic, try Shittu, never was a name more apt, and what a pathetic attendance for a club hoping for prem footie.
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
5:53pm Sun 11 May 08
Stevie wrote:All the moaners from this site stayed away and the atmosphere was fantastic without all you tossers especially you 4boys hemel, stay at home and wash your skoda eternally ****-wit! Hatch End Des, can you go help car washing too coz if you think Richard Lee played well your on planet Zog with Colin. Have a long look at Myhill,s performance in the Hull goal, now that was the main difference today, he would have saved both goals. As for you Tigrr hull, did you not see the rows of empty seats in your end or couldnt you see that from your armchair? Very good performance today with the keeper and the ref being the only thing between us and a great victory. Shittu goal wrongly ruled out, Eustace wrongly red carded, expect that to be rescinded. Aidy got the selection and tactics right except for Doyley and as poor as Priskin has been i think he wiuld have poached a couple today with the amount of chances we created around the 6 yard box in the first half. Finally can all you boo boys please hand in your season ticket books as the place was jumping without you today and we can fill the rookery with real fans and not you glory hunting tossers. Keep the faith, this is NOT over yet x
Where was everyone today??
The enlightened one, Garston says...
6:01pm Sun 11 May 08
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
6:05pm Sun 11 May 08
The enlightened one wrote:where do you get 5000 p1ssed off fans from? we have a hardcore of 6 or 7000 proper fans. Dont include yourself and the other muppets like you as 'supporters'. Look at the definition half wit.
Pi$$ing off five thousand or so supporters so they cant be bothered to go today just goes to prove what a great job boofers has done,lets hope homer grows some balls and gets rid come thursday morning.
The enlightened one, Garston says...
6:07pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR, watford says...
6:08pm Sun 11 May 08
Seemed odd at this late stage to try something different, should of happened weeks ago!
Shocking refereeing decisions for both teams but you couldn't exactly call him a homer.
Doyley was absolutely pants and should be discarded from now on, didn't think Sadler did anything more than what Stewart would have done, far too early for LA to be involved and didn't benefit us at all.
JM had a great 1st half especially but faded, too much tracking back for covering Williamson who I thought had an in out game, NE....enough said.
On positives, JD was great when finally coming on (shouldn't be on the bench) and Priskin unusually looked good.
RL as i've often said worries me greatly, thought he could have done better with opening goal.
Didn't think much of Hull and thought they didn't deserve there win, not much to them, that Ian Ashby is just a thug in the middle and should be sorted out in the 2nd leg.
MOM...B Myhill, says everthing really.
Not over yet, henderson back to bully Wayne Brown.
Keep the faith lads!!
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
6:09pm Sun 11 May 08
The enlightened one wrote:tiresome sitting in your armchair all afternoon criticising is it?
Yawn,yawn.
VoR, watford says...
6:09pm Sun 11 May 08
The enlightened one wrote:Fcukin berk!!
Yawn,yawn.
slasherr, londun says...
6:16pm Sun 11 May 08
tiger bay boy wrote:zip got it write again, yu go sit in yur armchar yu donut
The enlightened one wrote:tiresome sitting in your armchair all afternoon criticising is it?
Yawn,yawn.
Hornet, Rickmansworth says...
6:19pm Sun 11 May 08
Stevie wrote: Where was everyone today?? said a couple of weeks ago that prices should've been reduced to fill the ground,but Watford choose to make afew pounds more instead.Need to go all out attack now with nothing to lose.GOOD LUCK!
Stevie wrote:
Where was everyone today??
said a couple of weeks ago that prices should've been reduced to fill the ground,but Watford choose to make a few pounds more instead.
Watford were NOT ALLOWED to reduce their prices for this match. Why do people like you have to find fault with the admin of this club? If you support the club you find the money
zip, The real world says...
6:21pm Sun 11 May 08
An improved performance but too little too late. As for the attendance, well what do you expect when you play such rubbish football and sign such rubbish players?
This needed to happen i'm afraid. We have been an embarrassment since November and the manager is a dead man walking. If he has any sense he'll tender his resignation on Thursday morning.
What an awful season...and its still not over.
Anyway well done those fans who, like me, boycotted the vic today. Maybe now the message will sink in.
Clappers, its relegation next season if there is not a change of manager and coaching staff.
BOOTHROYD OUT! BOOTHROYD OUT!
Hornet, Rickmansworth says...
6:26pm Sun 11 May 08
Anyway well done those fans who, like me, boycotted the vic today. Maybe now the message will sink in.
another sad case
The enlightened one, Garston says...
6:28pm Sun 11 May 08
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
6:29pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR, watford says...
6:30pm Sun 11 May 08
We meet in walkabout Weds night!
Real reason you don't go is because you've no money after being sacked from your teaching post.
What's that I hear, oh yeah....your meal for one is ready, don't forget to leave it standing for a minute before serving .....saddo!!!
matthewroberts340@ho
tmail.com, Watford says...
6:31pm Sun 11 May 08
The enlightened one, Garston says...
6:37pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR, watford says...
6:42pm Sun 11 May 08
I know you were upset with the result today but setting alight your garden fence was a bit OTT.
don't suppose you saw that arrogant half naked tattooed fat northerner in the centre afterwards getting a bit of chin music did you?
I thank you, you listening Colin?
VoR, watford says...
6:44pm Sun 11 May 08
The enlightened one wrote:Easy to type words when you're getting on in years.....
Now comes the abuse anyone who has a different opinion is subject to all sorts of crap,you lot really need to grow up,as for threatening violence that just sums up the sort of people you are.
Walkabout Weds!!!
chitster, woburn says...
6:54pm Sun 11 May 08
zip, The real world says...
6:57pm Sun 11 May 08
GIMP.
cynic, harrow says...
7:05pm Sun 11 May 08
Mark, Watford says...
7:12pm Sun 11 May 08
slasherr, londun says...
7:13pm Sun 11 May 08
psycho 1, aylesbury says...
7:17pm Sun 11 May 08
Try taking your lovely clean motor up the M1 a few juctions and see how rosy it is there!!
by the way you missed a much improved performance and some terrible reffing- even worse watching the rerun on sky. Those there support was excellant- those who weren't a bit of self examination as to where loyalties lie is called for!!!!!
Still if there's a whiff of glory I excpect you'll turn up like the preverbial bad pennies.
Play like we did today and it still can be done. How we were two years ago is irrelevant
and totally subjective- only one of that team is playing regularly in the prem the others sold are warming benches or in the reserves.
Good luck to all travelling to Hull and roar the boys on!!!
JohnBoy, Watford says...
7:18pm Sun 11 May 08
I was in the Vic Rd end and I saw nothing wrong with DSs goal.
Besides not having anyone capable of scoring goals my otherconcern is that Boothroyd will resort to hoofing again when DH is back.
Not a bad performance by us but a very disapponting result. Colin's prediction was right sadly.
chris, hemel says...
7:21pm Sun 11 May 08
I'll name one, my grand son. He's been an avid Watford fan since he was 3 yrs old. He has all the shirts from the last 6 seasons. Three months ago he stopped going because he said were crap and played rubbish football. Today he was walking around wearing his Man U shirt.
Thanks Hoofers, you've just lost another young supporter. Too little too late.
Ramage, Watford says...
7:23pm Sun 11 May 08
The fans were excellent - I'm delighted that some stayed away as the atmosphere was better for it.
Lee
Mariappa Bromby Shittu Sadler
Williamson O'Toole
Smith McAnuff Ainsworth
Henderson
We can still do it !
cynic, harrow says...
7:24pm Sun 11 May 08
Dont give up too soon mate.My Dad took me in 1946 and I'm still going so I've seen even worse than this lot.Only difference is the torrent of bullshit from you know who!!
tommy gunn, suffolk says...
7:28pm Sun 11 May 08
Peter Phillips, Loudwater says...
7:31pm Sun 11 May 08
I am glad AB chose Ainsworth. I thought, however, he was wrong to take him off. Doyley was dreadful; Ellington was awful; Priskin should have been brought on earlier; Demerit should have played from the start. Smith and McAnuff had excellent games. Bromby and Sadler were ok. Lee a bit dodgy; Shittu great going forward but suspect in defence; Williamson and Eustace not good enough. Although I think the referee's decisions constantly went against us and prevented us from getting a result it has to be admitted - we are not good enough for the Premiership.
DORSETHORNS, DORSET says...
7:31pm Sun 11 May 08
How sad
It's lazy , no good Dads , like you who are killing the game, sorry grandads .
You should no better at your age , or , most probley the truth is you sit in front og SKY and pretend to know what it is really like .
I bet you cheered Andy Grays cheating goal .
STAND UP , and get your boy in to LOCAL football , even Barnet !!!!!!!!!
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
7:34pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR, watford says...
7:35pm Sun 11 May 08
zip wrote:U seriously not worked it out yet?
Hey vOr boy what's your problem? Stop throwing your toys out of the pram. Anyway i'm barred from walkabout.
GIMP.
Little "o" in VoR ! ! !
Getting cozy in bed with The E One?
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
7:41pm Sun 11 May 08
Peter Phillips wrote:Some good points but i think your wrong about johnny Eustace. Most of the passing game originated from him and did you not notice how pumped up he was, pulling all the strings and generally berating anyone who didnt show equal effort. Not being good enough for the Prem is not really the point is it. We need to yo-yo a couple more times, take the money, sort the ground out, then establish.
We lost because the referee was the poorest I have seen since Rob Styles. In fact, he was worse than Rob Styles! Shittu's goal was a good one and unfairly disallowed. Eustace should not have been sent off. We can appeal against the red card - pity we cannot appeal against the referee's other appalling decisions. I am glad AB chose Ainsworth. I thought, however, he was wrong to take him off. Doyley was dreadful; Ellington was awful; Priskin should have been brought on earlier; Demerit should have played from the start. Smith and McAnuff had excellent games. Bromby and Sadler were ok. Lee a bit dodgy; Shittu great going forward but suspect in defence; Williamson and Eustace not good enough. Although I think the referee's decisions constantly went against us and prevented us from getting a result it has to be admitted - we are not good enough for the Premiership.
slasherr, londun says...
7:49pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR wrote:i meet yu in walkbout
zip wrote:U seriously not worked it out yet?
Hey vOr boy what's your problem? Stop throwing your toys out of the pram. Anyway i'm barred from walkabout.
GIMP.
Little "o" in VoR ! ! !
Getting cozy in bed with The E One?
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
7:53pm Sun 11 May 08
cynic wrote:How far dya want to go back? Just the 6 months coz it suits your arguement? Aidy Boothroyd is still in credit and if it is a results only business why were the boys clapped and cheered off the pitch today? Because the real fans recognised the effort put in and the injustice of the result. Unfortunately Cynic, its off to Bedfordshire for you with the rest, zip, slosherrr,the E etc.. Dont come back please.
At the end of the day Aidy Boothroyd provided his own answer recently----IT'S A RESULTS BUSINESS.Just sit down and look at our results since even before Xmas,tells it's own story I'm afraid.
Tigrrr, Home @ Dry says...
7:56pm Sun 11 May 08
James wrote:You D!CK, you call us thugs yet most off your posters, talk about having rows and it being liberating, and yes, I did like my holiday, reminded me of Southall, not been to Asia for years.
Tigrrr, you thugs long balled it more than us. P**s off back to your hole of a city! Hope you enjoyed your holiday by the way!
SF49ers, Broken Arrow says...
7:59pm Sun 11 May 08
Anyone else remember putting 7 past Southampton after getting walloped in the first leg?
The 'Orns will rise again .
Blind Faith
We will beat hull 5-1 on the night, you heard it here first.
Come On You 'Orns
henry, oxhey says...
8:00pm Sun 11 May 08
lack an instinctive
goalscorer.......Hop
e that's the end of relentless hump up.
Hull got away with a lot today and did little to merit the win.
Phil Brown says that the ref was great and got the two major decisions right ! Ref was actually incompetent and did much to determine the outcome of the game.
Hull were better than us defensively - mainly down to organisation by their no.4 and a better keeper.
SOMEONE should be giving the orders at the back and keeping the FBs on their toes and in position.
Good luck needed on Wed. The only break we got today was when they hit the post...
Bendean, Snorbens says...
8:01pm Sun 11 May 08
As a pro footballer, surely JE should realise that with the poor refs in the champ. to tackle recklessly then raise your hands to an opponent can easily get a red card. Is he stupid? He should be fined by the club even if the FA does relinquish a ban.
LD dreadful, last chance for NE -shouldn't ware the shirt again. Very disappointing again and again. With other talent that showed in spells, AB should really get them playing better than they are. Still, no problem - lets blaim the ref.
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
8:02pm Sun 11 May 08
Tigrrr wrote:Muppet. Look at a map Southall is in West London not Asia. You might of got a slap too if u'd ventured down, still we can always catch up and have a chat Wednesday at the European City of Culture, Hull!! Something against Asians then? Is that just you, or are you speaking generally on behalf of Hole?
James wrote: Tigrrr, you thugs long balled it more than us. P**s off back to your hole of a city! Hope you enjoyed your holiday by the way!You D!CK, you call us thugs yet most off your posters, talk about having rows and it being liberating, and yes, I did like my holiday, reminded me of Southall, not been to Asia for years.
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
8:12pm Sun 11 May 08
Watford did played better than they have for a long time.
Eustace should never have been sent off, he was not going in studs first but was on his feet - he just missed the ball while players were on the ground. Why weren't there bookings for Ashbee and Doyle?
Why was the WFC goal disallowed? The only foul I saw in the box was Myhill pushing Tommy Smith out of the way, which he did every time. A poor referee who could not match the importance of the fixture.
These games are financially too important to be affected by referees and should only have the top refs. Perhaps it would be better if it did not coincide with the final day of the Premier League then the top refs would be used.
Watford played better without Darius Henderson, I would start on Wednesday with Priskin and Ellington up front and Smith wide on the right. I would also be appealing for the red card to be rescinded and Mr Friend to be demoted to the Unibond League for next season.
Stephen Baldwin, hemel hempstead says...
8:17pm Sun 11 May 08
Can we get someone that can spot a footballer, did Ellington have a shot?
luther67, watford says...
8:17pm Sun 11 May 08
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
8:19pm Sun 11 May 08
Watford did played better than they have for a long time.
Eustace should never have been sent off, he was not going in studs first but was on his feet - he just missed the ball while players were on the ground. Why weren't there bookings for Ashbee and Doyle?
Why was the WFC goal disallowed? The only foul I saw in the box was Myhill pushing Tommy Smith out of the way, which he did every time. A poor referee who could not match the importance of the fixture.
These games are financially too important to be affected by referees and should only have the top refs. Perhaps it would be better if it did not coincide with the final day of the Premier League then the top refs would be used.
Watford played better without Darius Henderson, I would start on Wednesday with Priskin and Ellington up front and Smith wide on the right. I would also be appealing for the red card to be rescinded and Mr Friend to be demoted to the Unibond League for next season.
SF49ers, says...
8:19pm Sun 11 May 08
Loyalty is a good lesson in life.
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
8:20pm Sun 11 May 08
Watford did played better than they have for a long time.
Eustace should never have been sent off, he was not going in studs first but was on his feet - he just missed the ball while players were on the ground. Why weren't there bookings for Ashbee and Doyle?
Why was the WFC goal disallowed? The only foul I saw in the box was Myhill pushing Tommy Smith out of the way, which he did every time. A poor referee who could not match the importance of the fixture.
These games are financially too important to be affected by referees and should only have the top refs. Perhaps it would be better if it did not coincide with the final day of the Premier League then the top refs would be used.
Watford played better without Darius Henderson, I would start on Wednesday with Priskin and Ellington up front and Smith wide on the right. I would also be appealing for the red card to be rescinded and Mr Friend to be demoted to the Unibond League for next season.
The enlightened one, Garston says...
8:24pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR, watford says...
8:25pm Sun 11 May 08
good post but 3 times is a tad OTT tbh
Still, I appreciate that more than the drivel of zip/the e one and alike!!
VoR, watford says...
8:27pm Sun 11 May 08
The enlightened one wrote:Got it in 1...
VoR I take you'll be the one stood in the corner dribbling with your knuckles scraping on the floor,makes you proud to support the horns.
Berk brain!
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
8:28pm Sun 11 May 08
The enlightened one wrote:you are embarrassing. Go away
VoR I take you'll be the one stood in the corner dribbling with your knuckles scraping on the floor,makes you proud to support the horns.
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
8:33pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR wrote:Thanks VoR. You can't have too much of a good thing. In fact I only posted it once.
Hexham........ good post but 3 times is a tad OTT tbh Still, I appreciate that more than the drivel of zip/the e one and alike!!
Perhaps the website is run by the talented Mr Friend!!
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
8:39pm Sun 11 May 08
SF49ers wrote:The trouble with memories is they are very selective. Do you remember what happened to us when we went on to play Coventry after beating Soton? I wouldn't want that to happen to us at Wembley!!
Anyone else remember winning away 4-0 IN EUROPE? Anyone else remember putting 7 past Southampton after getting walloped in the first leg? The 'Orns will rise again . Blind Faith We will beat hull 5-1 on the night, you heard it here first. Come On You 'Orns
slasherr, londun says...
8:48pm Sun 11 May 08
luther67 wrote:hey zip wat yu predikt next game.
Zip, do us all a favour. F*** off.
Peter Phillips, Loudwater says...
8:50pm Sun 11 May 08
SF49ers, Broken Arrow says...
9:01pm Sun 11 May 08
Hexham Hornet wrote:Point taken but what I was getting at is...... this tie is not over.
SF49ers wrote: Anyone else remember winning away 4-0 IN EUROPE? Anyone else remember putting 7 past Southampton after getting walloped in the first leg? The 'Orns will rise again . Blind Faith We will beat hull 5-1 on the night, you heard it here first. Come On You 'OrnsThe trouble with memories is they are very selective. Do you remember what happened to us when we went on to play Coventry after beating Soton? I wouldn't want that to happen to us at Wembley!!
Come On You 'Orns
eaststandaggro, Watford says...
9:03pm Sun 11 May 08
Hornet, Rickmansworth says...
9:04pm Sun 11 May 08
chris wrote:another sad case - please don't quote Man U - They and the other 3 or 4 top spending teams are sucking football dry of talent in the lower divisions. Even the great Ben Foster cannot so much as get a place as sub. A real supporter is someone who goes to matches and supports the team even when things are bad. To walk about wearing a Man U shirt means nothing - they are all over the world -
The stay away fans. I'll name one, my grand son. He's been an avid Watford fan since he was 3 yrs old. He has all the shirts from the last 6 seasons. Three months ago he stopped going because he said were crap and played rubbish football. Today he was walking around wearing his Man U shirt. Thanks Hoofers, you've just lost another young supporter. Too little too late.
slasherr, londun says...
9:08pm Sun 11 May 08
tiger bay boy wrote:i meet yu in walkabout tiger gay boy
Colin Zip, you didnt boycott, you stayed away for your own safety. The next time you or your kind wander into the Rookery im gonna get a lifetime ban for you clowns. Come on down, bring Slaherrrr with you.
lowerroushorn, watford says...
9:11pm Sun 11 May 08
quote
Holly68, watford says...
9:18pm Sun 11 May 08
We look very vulnerable at the back now, Doyley is not a footballer, Sadler is average, Bromby a steady eddy with no pace, get one of one with any of those and your in with a shout if you have pace. Eustace was poor, legs have gone, Mahon was a better player (whilst not great).
Ref was poor, nothing wrong with goal !!!
I dont want us to go up, one because we would have a season like Derby's, it aint no fun, secondly Boothroyd might keep his job.
Roll on the new owner, roll out Ashton and Boothroyd, roll on the floor the ball please .....
eaststandaggro, Watford says...
9:18pm Sun 11 May 08
lowerroushorn wrote:You wasn't the moran I was sitting next to today was you?There are a lot at Vicarage Road.
i ve been reading the comments of you lot on here for quite a while now why dont you all f**k off i ve had a season ticket for 20 years now and i ve seen alot worse football than this so f**k all of you and if any of you wanna meet up lets get on i ll crack your heads like melons you 2 face turncoat wa****squote
lowerroushorn, watford says...
9:23pm Sun 11 May 08
Holly68, watford says...
9:25pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR, watford says...
9:26pm Sun 11 May 08
lowerroushorn wrote:Who u talking about??
i ve been reading the comments of you lot on here for quite a while now why dont you all f**k off i ve had a season ticket for 20 years now and i ve seen alot worse football than this so f**k all of you and if any of you wanna meet up lets get on i ll crack your heads like melons you 2 face turncoat wa****squote
slasherr, londun says...
9:37pm Sun 11 May 08
VoR wrote:hey vOr. yu reckon this is sage, hehehehehehe
lowerroushorn wrote:Who u talking about??
i ve been reading the comments of you lot on here for quite a while now why dont you all f**k off i ve had a season ticket for 20 years now and i ve seen alot worse football than this so f**k all of you and if any of you wanna meet up lets get on i ll crack your heads like melons you 2 face turncoat wa****squote
eaststandaggro, Watford says...
9:41pm Sun 11 May 08
lowerroushorn wrote:no i'm not.I have been to quite a few away matches(with my wife and 2 kids!)and have decided to decline this match due to the fact of my kids making school the next day.(waffle,waffle,w
waffle waffle waffle thats all i here are you goin to hull on weds eaststandaggro
affle)You don't get it do you? We are all on here cause we care in some way.I agree with what you TRYING to say but I think you maybe socially challenged?
Holly68, watford says...
9:44pm Sun 11 May 08
Dont post if you cant take someone having a different opinion to yours
Metal Mickey, Iver Bucks says...
9:50pm Sun 11 May 08
dal8oy wrote:Clearly you were not at the game you northern ****, if you go up and that is stiull a big if, you will get what anyteam with a prat called brown in charge deserves, **** town you will get less points than Derby and hopefully the floods return and all your games will be called off, now crawl back in your caravan with your big fat wife..
Tigrrr wrote: You got exactly what you deserved, Long ball merchants like you always get caught out, As for the fan who thought the refs name was ironic, try Shittu, never was a name more apt, and what a pathetic attendance for a club hoping for prem footie.Yes. Hull....number 1 in the book of crap towns! Says it all.
Stan_Smith, herts says...
9:50pm Sun 11 May 08
eaststandaggro, Watford says...
9:52pm Sun 11 May 08
Metal Mickey wrote:Holly, it seems your attempt in democracy has failed.Worth a tr!
dal8oy wrote:Clearly you were not at the game you northern ****, if you go up and that is stiull a big if, you will get what anyteam with a prat called brown in charge deserves, **** town you will get less points than Derby and hopefully the floods return and all your games will be called off, now crawl back in your caravan with your big fat wife..Tigrrr wrote: You got exactly what you deserved, Long ball merchants like you always get caught out, As for the fan who thought the refs name was ironic, try Shittu, never was a name more apt, and what a pathetic attendance for a club hoping for prem footie.Yes. Hull....number 1 in the book of crap towns! Says it all.
VoR, watford says...
9:56pm Sun 11 May 08
Bring back the good old days, football wise and aggro wise!!!
nugget, east london says...
9:59pm Sun 11 May 08
slasherr, londun says...
10:00pm Sun 11 May 08
Holly68, watford says...
10:00pm Sun 11 May 08
Lets say we performed a miracle, scored 3 goals on weds night, then won at wembley ... wonderful ..... Until >>>>>>
we then get comprehensively beaten week in and week out next season, we will all be wishing we werent there ! Who in the current team could help keep us up ? maybe one or two players, maybe. so then who do we go and buy ? and who would come even if we were paying £50K a week ? I would rather stay in the championship and play better football than do a Derby. Even look at Birminghams squad and quality, Zarate, McFadden, Forsell, Jerome, etc etc and they still went down !!!!
Alan Palmer, south ruislip says...
10:05pm Sun 11 May 08
ton & Kabba.
What concerns me is the style of football. I can barely recall a game this season (after Johnson left) that i enjoyed.Should Aidy go? Opinions are devided.If he stays we have to go back to playing football plus he needs some of the money the board have squirrelled away to bring n some talent and by talent i dont mean goog long term prospects.
VoR, watford says...
10:13pm Sun 11 May 08
Isn't it good to be a yoyo club and get a better class of player/manager/ backer to boot?
then after a few seasons of that to then establish from there or as you suggest keep scrimping and scrapping to make ends meet?
Although I do find this league exciting with more games and more teams all trying their best to get promoted, next season will be really tough with the teams going down and the ones coming up.
Sorry I don't see your reasoning.
BTW ozzy, you were 101, nugget beat you to it....walkabout Weds?
mark, dunstable says...
10:17pm Sun 11 May 08
Hull claim to be a decent footballing side- crap ,they were bully boys who cheated most of the game and apart from our mistakes, didnt look like they would do anything.
Phil Brown is a joke with lovely brown shoes - worse than warnock for being a whinging prat.
Crowd was great today, nothing wrong with our disallowed goal, ref is a **** who bottled all major decisions. Didnt even give a card for grabbing Eustace round neck, or flying in on Lee. Frazier Cambell is a jumped up arrogant prat.
I was right behind Myhill when he saved Sadler's volley, i was celebrating already - great save. Proud of the team, i think they did well and were unjustly dealt with.
Hull are a bunch of prats who will sink faster than Derby if they make it.
Good luck wednesday boys.
Alan Palmer, south ruislip says...
10:21pm Sun 11 May 08
Tigrrr, Home @ Dry says...
10:43pm Sun 11 May 08
tiger bay boy wrote:how old are you? you should be in bed, school tomorrow, I did venture down, from Huntingdon you
Tigrrr wrote:Muppet. Look at a map Southall is in West London not Asia. You might of got a slap too if u'd ventured down, still we can always catch up and have a chat Wednesday at the European City of Culture, Hull!! Something against Asians then? Is that just you, or are you speaking generally on behalf of Hole?James wrote: Tigrrr, you thugs long balled it more than us. P**s off back to your hole of a city! Hope you enjoyed your holiday by the way!You D!CK, you call us thugs yet most off your posters, talk about having rows and it being liberating, and yes, I did like my holiday, reminded me of Southall, not been to Asia for years.
D!CK, that's Cambs you illiterate thug.
Tony Funnell, Tricky Ricky says...
11:18pm Sun 11 May 08
JohnBoy, Watford says...
11:32pm Sun 11 May 08
Tigrrr wrote:Tigrrr you are a dirty, northern, racist cnut. fcuk off back to your inbreds.
tiger bay boy wrote:how old are you? you should be in bed, school tomorrow, I did venture down, from Huntingdon you
Tigrrr wrote:Muppet. Look at a map Southall is in West London not Asia. You might of got a slap too if u'd ventured down, still we can always catch up and have a chat Wednesday at the European City of Culture, Hull!! Something against Asians then? Is that just you, or are you speaking generally on behalf of Hole?James wrote: Tigrrr, you thugs long balled it more than us. P**s off back to your hole of a city! Hope you enjoyed your holiday by the way!You D!CK, you call us thugs yet most off your posters, talk about having rows and it being liberating, and yes, I did like my holiday, reminded me of Southall, not been to Asia for years.
D!CK, that's Cambs you illiterate thug.
Having said that the WO prefer to censor bad language rather than racism.
Ewan Hughes Army, Lunnon says...
12:23am Mon 12 May 08
Necha, Home says...
12:35am Mon 12 May 08
Holly68 wrote:The money would be handy don't you think!?
Everyone, take a step back and just think about the situation. Lets say we performed a miracle, scored 3 goals on weds night, then won at wembley ... wonderful ..... Until >>>>>> we then get comprehensively beaten week in and week out next season, we will all be wishing we werent there ! Who in the current team could help keep us up ? maybe one or two players, maybe. so then who do we go and buy ? and who would come even if we were paying £50K a week ? I would rather stay in the championship and play better football than do a Derby. Even look at Birminghams squad and quality, Zarate, McFadden, Forsell, Jerome, etc etc and they still went down !!!!
hornet jack, leeds says...
1:14am Mon 12 May 08
Stevie, says...
1:34am Mon 12 May 08
We have been poor this season, with that we all agree.
I personally dont go with this view of 'going up despite the consequences'. Smoe say think of the money?. Is that what it's come to..money?.
We had money when we came down and one way or another it was pssed it down the drain. We, the fans deserve more than that. Would you really want to assist propping up the club with your hard earned money, if you saw us getting tonked every week in the Premiership?. Where is the enjoyment in that?.
The main thing is we all love our club but surely we want some enjoyment along-the-way.
I was proud of the team today but also thought A/ We are not good enough to go up B/ How many of those players would be wearing the shirt next time we see them at the Vic.
My feelings are Lee will lose his place, Shittu,NE,Demerit,Pr
iskin will leave for pastures new. That leaves Doyley to be dropped 'big time'and the rest will still be around. So a lot of newcomers expected either inbound or through the ranks.
I also feel I've seen Aidy for the last time at the vic.Time will tell.
johnny b, bushey says...
2:20am Mon 12 May 08
Alwaysahornet wrote:Play off rules,meant they had to charge full whack..
Stevie wrote:said a couple of weeks ago that prices should've been reduced to fill the ground,but Watford choose to make afew pounds more instead.Need to go all out attack now with nothing to lose.GOOD LUCK!
Where was everyone today??
Why i don,t know...
Good effort,but no luck and school boy defending for both goals...Again,cant work out changes,cos i can play better than N.E. any day of the week..
I would like to see big clearout in the summer,cos we are staying where we are,and play the ute,and have some fun,with the ball on the ground,like we did for vast majority of this game...
Didn,t win but much better than crap hull,and ain,t phil brown a weapon...
johnny b, bushey says...
2:24am Mon 12 May 08
chitster wrote:Just give him away with Harrys 50/50
Perhaps in future I should listen to you posters. Ellington is unbelievably bad, infact he is so bad that I would not select him for a pub team, if he has been this poor since signing why is the manager playing him, we were like a team of ten with that plonker just wondering about, I thought he might bring on a picnic after half time and sit down at hte corner flag - he is total total rubish how do we sell him?
johnny b, bushey says...
2:37am Mon 12 May 08
Peter Phillips wrote:Useless deserved to go for either the initial kick up the arse,or after....Get real....
We lost because the referee was the poorest I have seen since Rob Styles. In fact, he was worse than Rob Styles! Shittu's goal was a good one and unfairly disallowed. Eustace should not have been sent off. We can appeal against the red card - pity we cannot appeal against the referee's other appalling decisions.
I am glad AB chose Ainsworth. I thought, however, he was wrong to take him off. Doyley was dreadful; Ellington was awful; Priskin should have been brought on earlier; Demerit should have played from the start. Smith and McAnuff had excellent games. Bromby and Sadler were ok. Lee a bit dodgy; Shittu great going forward but suspect in defence; Williamson and Eustace not good enough. Although I think the referee's decisions constantly went against us and prevented us from getting a result it has to be admitted - we are not good enough for the Premiership.
A liabilaty and not a good captain...
Mark, Watford says...
7:13am Mon 12 May 08
Yorkie, Hornet exile inBoothroyd Country says...
7:25am Mon 12 May 08
After wednesday a real need to regroup for next season... but will wait till then as there is a slim chance we can turn this around as Hull are not that good a team are they....
shame, radlett says...
9:00am Mon 12 May 08
hornet jack, leeds says...
9:31am Mon 12 May 08
Metal Mickey, Iver Bucks says...
10:02am Mon 12 May 08
hornet jack wrote:Watford a small town with a population of 80,000 and surrounded by premiership and other championship clubs. Hull a city I believe with nothing close by for attendance competition, the empty seats were disaapointing but as a true fan I would rather they were empty than have the poisonous twars sitting in them that have been there all season. The best team will win the play off if its us we will be punching above our weight again if its you good luck and enjoy the premiership. Just remember before you slag off our stadium that is falling down it was not very long ago you were playing in a **** hole to...you were lucky you had a rich foriegner to help you out, we had a foreigner called vialli who wasted all oyr money and we have only just recovered. So enjoy the experience it wont last long
phil brown could look like stig of the dump but he has still got a fair better unit than watford. why does everyone presume that hull is giro city.there is more character and english people pro rarter than the whole of the **** capital city of london. including its outer dumps within the confines of the m25.just swallow the bitter pil of dissapointment and start building for next season.if we are that poor in hull why do we average a couple of thousand more a game than the mighty watford.ex premiership club i might add. and vicarage road is falling down in comparison to our state of the art stadium which will have an empty away end on wednesday night. The future is bright the future is black and amber.
watfordal, barnet says...
10:41am Mon 12 May 08
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
11:44am Mon 12 May 08
Glad to see Aidy has lodged an appeal about the sending off. If it is upheld then that would be good, if not perhaps we could bring Williams in - I gather he is still in training. Please don't bring back Darius, as we played some very good football without him. I would like to see Priskin start and continue in the same vein as he played on Sunday. I hope he is still with us next year, and leading the front line. If we keep the ball down he will be a good player and I think he is due a couple of goals very soon!!
If we play like we did yesterday, next season, then we will have a very good chance of automatic promotion - I can't see us beating Hull and if we do and we win the final then this team is not yet good enough to stay up - to be honest I don't think any of the 4 teams are. A season of blending a team to play like yesterday would be good for the team and the fans.
I hope DeMerit and Priskin stay. I would not be too upset if we lost: Poom, Ellington (I heard he could be in a player + swap for Earnshawe), Kabba, D.Henderson, Hoskins, Rinaldi (I like him but he has not kicked a ball in anger this season), Jackson and Francis.
I gather that with Foster signing a new contract at Man U that he may be available for loan again and that there is some interest in Stephen Wright, just released by Sunderland. Adam Johnson was also reported to be looking to move, but he may be available on loan again next season instead. If he is we could have a front 2 of Priskin and Smith with Johnson wide on the left and McAnuff switching to the right with Ainworth continuing to learn his trade and being used off the bench.
It is not all doom and gloom if we say down. My favourites to go up are former Watford boy Gary Johnson's Bristol City.
doranny, Bushey (not) says...
2:25pm Mon 12 May 08
chris, hemel says...
8:34pm Mon 12 May 08
My grandson bought the Man U shirt with his birthday money.
He has been a loyal supporter going to home and away games with his dad and sometimes me.
He has lost interest because of the dreadful performances dished up over the last 6 months.
Replaced by Man U. Why? Because of peer group pressure at school. Because they play attractive football. Because they win at home (and away)
Lesson for WFC and Hoofers - if you continue to dish up hoofball rubbish, you will lose your home support.
As a point of interest, my son aged 27years, has also given up on Watford because they play 'awful' football.
WFC have a duty to their supporters to provide them with the best possible entertainment/footba
ll within their means. They have failed miserably this season and these are the consequences - 14700 to watch the most important home game of the season.
dal8oy, Beds says...
9:22pm Mon 12 May 08
chris wrote:Thats what i like to see QUOTE "As a point of interest, my son aged 27years, has also given up on Watford because they play 'awful' football. "
In answer to some of you 'Clappers' about my grandson. My grandson bought the Man U shirt with his birthday money. He has been a loyal supporter going to home and away games with his dad and sometimes me. He has lost interest because of the dreadful performances dished up over the last 6 months. Replaced by Man U. Why? Because of peer group pressure at school. Because they play attractive football. Because they win at home (and away) Lesson for WFC and Hoofers - if you continue to dish up hoofball rubbish, you will lose your home support. As a point of interest, my son aged 27years, has also given up on Watford because they play 'awful' football. WFC have a duty to their supporters to provide them with the best possible entertainment/footba ll within their means. They have failed miserably this season and these are the consequences - 14700 to watch the most important home game of the season.
Well tell your son to go and support Man Utd. Everyone else who knows nothing about football does. Anyway who needs fans like him.....NOT us.
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
10:10pm Mon 12 May 08
doranny wrote:if they were your 3 best players then you have serious problems ahead. They were taken off because there geriatric legs couldnt take the runaround you northern tw^ts were getting. Log back on Weds night. 3-1 to the golden boys and a penalty shoot out victory, bring it on!!!
Me thinks us Northern folk have stirred a Hornets nest! Just as well our ee-ba-gum humour was at its best cos we were bored sh*tless watchin u lot trying to beat Bo 'Banksey' Myhill in between our sticks. Lets face it -the Tigers never even got out of third gear and took off three of their best players to give em a rest for Wembley. We will be lookin for a training ground near Wembley next week for the final and need somewhere for our whippets to graze so now you wont be needing ur poxy ground for a while maybe you could help? No wonder Sir Elton couldn't stand the place anymore as on Saturday nites no one can hear your song(s) and your support is Shittu. Best light a candle in this ill wind cos without ur parachute dosh u'll be playing with the Grimsby in a year or two - Cee thee
tiger bay boy, mill end says...
10:12pm Mon 12 May 08
James, Watford says...
10:52pm Mon 12 May 08
Mark, Watford says...
6:29am Tue 13 May 08
WFC & Proud, Watford says...
8:21am Tue 13 May 08
So far, all I can work-out is that you want Aidy sacked, the coaching staff sacked, the vast majority of the squad sold or sacked, the board sacked and the Club moved to a brand new 60,000 seat stadium to accommodate Champions League football within six months!!
I get the impression you forget we have a core support of about 8,500-10,000, have played in the top flight of the English League for some 12 seasons out of 127, rely on developing our own youth players to balance the books, are a town of around 80,000 one hour away from London's Prem & CCC clubs, etc.
I'd love to know who you will bring in to run the football side, who's going to manage the business setup, what players you'll bring in, what your success criteria are, how you propose to fund this plan, etc.
Go on, give us all the benefit of your insight.
I suspect none of you have thought little further than your next cheap, self-edifying insult.
Hexham Hornet, Hexham says...
10:15am Tue 13 May 08
I feel the backroom staff is too large and should be reduced, I also feel Aidy needs a goood and experienced No2. It has been said that Aidy would not accept a No2, but I think he can be shown how that can benefit him and reminded how we have performed sincehe lost KB.
If he decides to go then I would like to see us bring in John Ward - Carlisle played good football last night, keeping it on the ground always looking for the spare player, covering when a player moves out of position. Many of the current squad could play that way - look how well they played on Sunday as poof of this. I hope Aidy starts to get them playing that way again for the whole of next season and stops this hitting it up to the big man as we have seen that this does not work. I don't want Aidy to go, but am willing to accept that if he does then there are good alterntives available. If he goes it should be because another club comes in for him and has to pay us compensation, which we can then use to get a replacement.
Is that the kind of insightyou are looking for WFC, even though it is not from a "Miserable Boo'er"?
WFC & Proud, Watford says...
2:35pm Tue 13 May 08
Beauty of your suggestion is it doesn't change WFC's off-field business model, youth policy, etc so it's sustainable.
I really hope Aidy stays to the end of his 2010 contract. In view of his successful two full seasons after saving us from League 1 in his first three months, this was going to be the first season he could be judged; I don't think 6th place in a very competitive & cut-throat CCC is that bad.
I'm realistic enough to be less than happy about the style of play, performances or results since October but that's balanced by Harefield Academy in terms of how they're playing football to suggest a better future. Most of that is attributable to Aidy's insistence on trialling new ideas.
I do believe he lost some of his self-confidence in terms of making decisions during matches but that's understandable as he's now in only his third season as a manager.
As for rumours, I heard a great one the other day: Sir Elton is buying the Club again and installing Pat Rice as director of football! Personally, I can't see it as I'm sure I recollect SEJ said he had other priorites (e.g. his AIDS trust) but the Pat Rice appointment could be really good for us.
As a possible post-Aidy replacement, how about Vic Akers? His footballing results with Arsenal Ladies have been superb and I reckon he could be a surprise package (no pun intended!)
Alwaysahornet, Bletchley says...
8:19pm Tue 13 May 08
Alwaysahornet, Bletchley on 5:11pm today Stevie wrote: Where was everyone today?? said a couple of weeks ago that prices should've been reduced to fill the ground,but Watford choose to make afew pounds more instead.Need to go all out attack now with nothing to lose.GOOD LUCK! Stevie wrote: Where was everyone today?? said a couple of weeks ago that prices should've been reduced to fill the ground,but Watford choose to make a few pounds more instead. Watford were NOT ALLOWED to reduce their prices for this match. Why do people like you have to find fault with the admin of this club? If you support the club you find the money I was there on Sunday,as I am for most games,quote so was happy to pay full price rsole, but obviously 4000 or so didn't bother
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Winston, watford says...
2:03pm Sun 11 May 08