Bassini does not plan to hold Q&A until New Year (From Watford Observer)

Harold Hornet wrote:
He looked fine when he walked past me on Saturday. So if we did think there was something to hide, we definitely do now!

Bush Hornet wrote:
TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

Bush Hornet wrote:
TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

BassZZZZZini wrote:
Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...

WFC4ever wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:
TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc?

Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?

grahamfransen wrote:
Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what? We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum! As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!! And neither should you load of moaning muppets!! Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!! Get real, you guys!!

stevyweavy wrote:

BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...

Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!

grahamfransen wrote:

stevyweavy wrote:

BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...

Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!

A bit like SEJ then!

Where is he these days?

Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now!

Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is!

And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!!

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

WFC4ever wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?

Are you serious? How touching!

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

WFC4ever wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?

Are you serious? How touching!

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...

grahamfransen wrote:

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...

Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!!

If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into!

d.j.smith wrote:
This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see.

grahamfransen wrote:

d.j.smith wrote: This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see.

Good to see someone talking some real sense, instead of the usual knee-jerk reactions from the serial moaners!!

grahamfransen wrote:

stevyweavy wrote:

BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...

Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!

A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!!

grahamfransen wrote:
Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals!

Let us wait until the New Year, because:

Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions.

We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs.

The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer.

The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed.

The SW corner will have seen some further action.

We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch.

We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day.

Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights.

And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas.

Ah. I feel so much better after that!

bigthunder wrote:
You could not make it up !

Even if ill now, cannot re schedule until the new year why ?

Because you have know intention in talking just say it and end this pantomine, you are seen as joke figure now, GT was right all along, just clear off man

grahamfransen wrote:
Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals! Let us wait until the New Year, because: Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions. We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs. The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer. The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed. The SW corner will have seen some further action. We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch. We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day. Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights. And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas. Ah. I feel so much better after that!

Rusty Bakayoko wrote:
If LB does read these forums then he needs to realise that until he faces the fan's and fields their questions the negativity towards him will continue. At the moment there are too many unanswered questions and he needs to fix this situation quickly.

BicesterLee wrote:
I've kept an open mind on LB, choosing not to pass judgement on him until there was concrete evidence one way or the other. I must admit now though that this has again been handled very poorly as surely if he is still feeling unwell it probably didn't just happen today so he could have mentioned it yesterday. These last minute pull outs just raise more and more suspicion on top of what is already there with many. You have to assume that he does read these message boards, hence he saw what sort of questions people may have asked so either he is being very elusive due to having something to hide, or he's hoping to have completed more in ground improvements, Red Lion etc to hope fans will be more favourable towards him in the New Year. None of us will ever know until he actually talks to the fans so I'm just going to focus back on the team and our week to week performances, rather than endless speculation.

herts hornet wrote:
I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in how right this person was !!! WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all

strummerjoe wrote:

herts hornet wrote:
I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in how right this person was !!! WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all

Yes, just go Bassini, and...........
What? Who is going to buy a loss-making football club and continue to fund its losses for the forseeable future?

Answers on a postcard......

stevyweavy wrote:

grahamfransen wrote:

stevyweavy wrote:

BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...

Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!

A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!!

I am sorry but your comments seem to point towards a direct link to Baz in which case you have an advantage over all the rest of us "morons" that do not know what to believe and what not to believe.

And as for the association of SEJ - everything he has done and spent on WFC is clear in history and hello he recently did another concert for WFC so no one can reasonably doubt what he has done for WFC and what he continues to do for WFC from time to time but he has done his time and spent his money and now the focus is on the current "owner" and unfortunately it is not so plain to see and the recent no shows and a reluctance to put any substance behind his involvement continues to detract from anything positive that he may be doing.

The Panos Thomas involvement in buying the club then Bas as well then no Panos, the let's add three additional members to the board, name them and then say no they are not joining the board (including one female counsellor who even admitted she did not know anything about football or what she would be doing on the board) with no real explanation, the continued uncertainty surrounding anything Bas is nothing like SEJ or in fact any of the other owners we have had at the club to date.

You can say what you like but true supporters of the club do have a reasonable right to be provided with more information than has so far been forthcoming and grahamfransen or who ever you really are can keep defending the owner but until he (you?) provides something more tangible you are going to be very much in a minority of one.

grahamfransen wrote:

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...

Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!!

If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into!

Oracledave wrote:
I think alternatives can be pursued.
For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc).

That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek !

How about it Mr Editor ?

Bush Hornet wrote:

Oracledave wrote:
I think alternatives can be pursued.
For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc).

That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek !

How about it Mr Editor ?

Fair comment

grahamfransen wrote:
Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals!

Let us wait until the New Year, because:

Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions.

We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs.

The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer.

The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed.

The SW corner will have seen some further action.

We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch.

We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day.

Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights.

And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas.

Ah. I feel so much better after that!

sceptic wrote:
It will all end in tears!

bonserout wrote:
I love this message board.
Two weeks ago
S.D. Sh-t
Team Sh-t
Loach Sh-t
Nosworthy Why loan him he's sh-t
Tayoy's Sh-t
Hodson's Sh-t
Doyley's Sh-t (mind you he is Sh-t)
Red Lion will never reopen (where did that scaffolding come from)
Now everything is rosy lets get back on the owners case!!
Can anyone tell me apart from his total lack of PR skills whats has the bloke actually done wrong ?

overthemooney wrote:
I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen

overthemooney wrote:
I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen

tonyevans22 wrote:
Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it.

How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies.

So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG..

stevemag wrote:
Bonserout - your post is very funny it made me laugh . And yes, doyley is sh-t !

Jan Lohman wrote:
He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC. The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic. By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?!

tonyevans22 wrote:
Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it. How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies. So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG..

corbindallas wrote:
Question, do we want a Ken Bates or Peter Risdale owner who talk out of their backsides and milk their clubs or do we want a owner that does not talk? Yes his 2nd non appearance is not good, yes his PR is rubbish, yes he is ill (MRI scans etc.), and maybe he does have a real problem with f2f interaction. He did not appoint himself as Chairman as he could have at the time, supports this motion of not fronting, he has not made a public appearance whereby he has had to really talk apart from his waving and clapping on his takeover on the pitch, he was bringing in more board members to divert away from himself also. Basically he is not self promoting on anything he has done so far. He has however taken over a loss making club, last account's show a yearly 4 million loss (despite the income from player sales that some bang on about as profit), he has stumped up 440,000 to buy the club and has to sort around a million a month for the clubs running balance. He has clearly directed funds towards development both on and off the field and has not cut out on easy or not so easy targets like the Community programme, Harefield Academy, Watford Ladies etc. Yes he has cut out the CEO post and other staff to protect the salary balance but that is a realistic change in the current climate to ensure long term stability which is what we would all want to secure the clubs future. We have loan players that would probably be out of our loan wage bracket, but were needed to ensure we stopped the rot, in all 7 players were promised and 13 to date have been signed or loaned. The Red Lion development is physically taking place, the new PA system is in and loud! the screens are being sorted and the new pitch ordered and corner development being prioritised. In all, the facts are clear the club is being run for the long term not the short term by the above actions, more deeper actions could be taken to cut back expenditure but have not (yet). Do we know where the money is coming from, clearly the club is not generating enough with incomes to be self suffcient, we also do not have a player book that will cover these growing debt's. However we are in a position whereby the clubs debt is nothing like the other clubs we share this division with, it is being handled and addressed and for that we need to thank LB, his backers and the board. We also need to be acceptable that this is the position and support the team and club!

Casterbridge wrote:
GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!”

That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club?

How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are.

That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told.

As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not?

Hornet Cornet wrote:
SOMEONE GO TO BENT BAZ'S HOUSE and kindly kick him up up the bum. He's go no respect for our club and treats the supporters like worthless pieces of pooh. BENT BAZ OUT, BENT BAZ OUT

AndyDC wrote:
Surely to see what a businessman can and will do in the present and future is to look at what they've done and accomplished in the past?

In the past it seems that Bassini has been involved in a string of businesses all of which have been dissolved. Then declared bankcrupt only 4 years ago which resulted in a name change.

Now he's involved in WFC and won't disclosure any sources of major financial backing, which doesn't give anyone peace of mind. Where does the investment come from? How much investment will be forth-coming and with what frequency? What share of profits do the investors expect to receive? How much say in the day-to-day business decisions do the investors have, if any?

Simply stating "get behind LB and what he is doing for WFC" is ignoring the fundemental questions that every WFC supporter not only expects to hear but is entitled to hear.

grahamfransen wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

WFC4ever wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?

Are you serious? How touching!

How much do you earn?

I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier!

If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas?

He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!

Steve C94 wrote:

grahamfransen wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

WFC4ever wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?

Are you serious? How touching!

How much do you earn?

I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier!

If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas?

He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!

100% owner of a private limited company?
NO HE IS NOT!!
I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them.
And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him.
Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests.
And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible?

Casterbridge wrote:
GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!” That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club? How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are. That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told. As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not?

Steve C94 wrote:

grahamfransen wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

WFC4ever wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.

I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?

Are you serious? How touching!

How much do you earn? I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier! If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas? He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!

100% owner of a private limited company? NO HE IS NOT!! I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them. And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him. Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests. And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible?

strummerjoe wrote:
Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got?

Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital.


Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind?

grahamfransen wrote:

Jan Lohman wrote: He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC. The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic. By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?!

I quite like the picture of me! Do not see the need to spend more precious money of mine on any photo shoot!

grahamfransen wrote:
Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what? We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum! As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!! And neither should you load of moaning muppets!! Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!! Get real, you guys!!

lutondown wrote:

strummerjoe wrote: Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got? Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital. Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind?

Utter tosh from Boofera buddy

Oracledave wrote:
As ever in these type of debates there is a thread of logic underpinning both views. On the negative side : - it is undoubtedly true that communications could be a whole lot better and indeed it is difficult to see a good reason why they are not ! - fans are surely entitled to ask questions regarding funding etc ( I think LB said as much in his opening WO statement). On the positive side ; - funding continues for purchases and loans plus running costs, - there are early indications that ground work is commencing. So when will the mighty battle between these opposing views be resolved ? Well, if there is real progress on development ( Red Lion opens, SW corner development starts ) then the demand for explanation of funding sources whilst still of interest becomes less critical. This then begs the question - when will that be. Well at the forum GT said that tenders for the SW corner were undergoing some sort of value analysis. This surely suggests that we should see contracts placed by Feb/Mar 2012 ? That is when I will make my mind up !

Cleverhornet wrote:
Bas. You better ask your mum if thats okay to pull out.

Cleverhornet wrote:
Bas – WHAT WAS THAT all about!! Listen, as far as most people and fans are concerned, you may front running WFC when in reality you couldn’t even run a KFC!! You think driving a flash car, being disrespectful and talking down to fans like the way you do is all….. OKAY. The truth is – its not. Now that you have admitted publicly that Grahamfransen is actually Basinni – all you need to do is look back at all the GF’s comments on this and previous posts to see how disrespectfully you spoke to the Watford fans and you start getting a picture of who and what Bassini is. This is not a businessman – this is a child playing a businessman. And you aren’t pulling out of anything – your backers would not allow this.

grahamfransen wrote:
Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club. My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club. I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match. But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them! I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC. However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum! If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in!

wfcsteve wrote:
So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.

Cleverhornet wrote:
That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol.

Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago.

You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted.

So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend.

Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.

luther blissett wrote:
Do some of you actually think fransen is Bassini? OMFG!!!!

Cleverhornet wrote:
That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.

Cleverhornet wrote:
Alex and Luther – grahamfransen IS Baz. So far all GF has done is protect Baz and slate anyone who even remotely said a bad word against him. Then – he even speaks like Baz. He is also arrogant – just like Baz – believes everyone loves him. lol. With all the Baz bashing going he finally came out and admitted who he was. I beleive 90% of people already knew. My earlier posts were deleted when I mentioned that I felt that this may have been him. For some reason the posts are no longer being deleted. Yes grahamfransen IS Baz.

grahamfransen wrote:

wfcsteve wrote:
So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.

My English is not very good Steve, but I think the word you are looking for is "summarise".

Sorry, old Lithuanian joke!

grahamfransen wrote:

wfcsteve wrote:
So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.

I refer to my reply above.

"How easily some simple folk are taken in!!
I will speak to Vladimir again, because I need to make some arrangements"!

Sorry Steve, you really are very simple, but we all knew that many moons ago!!

strummerjoe wrote:
Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.

lutondown wrote:
Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler, Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees! All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen.

strummerjoe wrote:
Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
I'm not being funny but this Fransen character is making this site impossible to have a decent debate on with other real fans.

buckler wrote:

lutondown wrote:
Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler, Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees! All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen.

Have you seen Neil Price these days? Think he had hair when he played for us mind you? Where do you think the mad one goes at night? Will try and think of more baldies but there used to be alot of cover ups in the olden days!

lutondown wrote:

strummerjoe wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.

Strummer joe for a start I don't believe he is, he has background backers And you are someone who I do not answer to You go beyond Clapper Get back on your air guitar and jog on

buckler wrote:

strummerjoe wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.

Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players!

strummerjoe wrote:

buckler wrote:

strummerjoe wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.

Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players!

Cut and pasted from somebody on WFC forums, but I think you'll find it accurate (although I'm sure you won't bother to read it) :

Oh, FFS. It doesn't matter how many times it's spelled out, some people persist with this absolute ****.

Again, for the hard of thinking.

Bassini put in £3.5m to fund the working capital shortfall to 30 June 2011. From the share purchase agreement:

As the Company did not trade any player registrations in the recent transfer window in January 2011 and
now cannot sell any players until the next window in the summer of 2011, there is a working capital
requirement of approximately £3.5 million to cover the shortfall for the remainder of the Company’s current
financial year. Accordingly, WFCL has undertaken to provide £3.5 million for working capital purposes
subject, inter alia, to the Offer becoming or being declared wholly unconditional. In the event that the Offer
does not become wholly unconditional, the Company would have to secure alternative financing from
existing Watford Leisure Shareholders, Watford Leisure Directors, (a) new strategic investor(s) or another
source to cover its immediate working capital requirements.

Here is a link to the solicitor's letter confirming the funds held on an interest free loan. http://www.watfordle

isureplc.com/wp-...L

-25.03.11.pdf

Bassini has put in moneys to pay the first 2 payments on the Bonds (which are a debt of the club, and therefore payment of these improves the club's financial position) From the share purchase agreement :

Through Barrea Solicitors (a legal adviser to WFCL), WFCL has undertaken to pay a total of £1,000,000on behalf of Watford Leisure to Fordwat and Graham Simpson by way of part repayment of their Secured
Bonds upon and subject to the Offer having become unconditional in all respects and the Secured Bonds
Restructuring taking effect (the “Closing Date Repayment”). The monies required to make the Closing
Date Repayment are currently held in the client account of Barrea Solicitors, together with the sum of
£1,500,000 which is payable on 10 March 2012 by way of the next repayment instalment of the Secured
Bonds

The club loses between £3m and £4m a year before player trading and any ground works etc. We got £3.2 for DG, £865k net for WB, £1.05m from the AY deal. Total £5m. That will be eaten up and more by this year's losses plus PA, starting SW Corner, Red Lion, plus £1.2m spent on new players. Assuming we don't sell players for £7-8m in the next couple of windows, plenty more cash will need to be injected. So much for quick bucks and asset stripping.

This, for those of you who abuse the word, is FACT.

grahamfransen wrote:
Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club.

My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club.

I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match.

But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them!

I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC.

However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum!

If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in!

garston tony wrote:
Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths

garston tony wrote:
Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this.

I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum?

If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths

lutondown wrote:

garston tony wrote: Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths

Who thinks he's Bas? Tony you must berift of ideas man to Whitter on about nothing the way you do. Fransen is just a nut job Basini proper is god know what, he doesn't communicate so how FFS are we supposed to have trust in someone like this? Why does his illness strike on question days? But seemed ok to walk around against Pompey? And Tony I think you will find its a vast majority on here who now have doubts

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife.

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife.

garston tony wrote:
Lutondown you obviously havent bothered reading the number of posts where people were acting like GF was really LB!

Hmm, LB? LD? LB LD? LB, LD, LB, LD..... LUTON DOWN IS BAS!! And I'm Graham Taylor.

Luton again if you bother to read the posts you'll note that even i, someone who has and does and is calling for people to give LB a chance instead of making things up about him have already said that him pulling out of the Q&A didnt look good.

Now instead of throwing around insults and pure fiction hows about we ALL get behind a campaign to get the WO and/or BBC3R to put questions to LB off air and have his responses recorded/posted online/printed.

LB could answer the questions in the comfort of his own home. In bed, still with a dressing gown on with a nice cupa on the bedside table for all I care but he would have no reason not to do this. The Q's could even be e-mailed to him, the point being LB would then have no wriggle room and if he decided to not answer the questions (put to him in a non potentially confrontational environment or pressured environment) then even those who support him would have to question why and he would be giving plenty of ammunition to those who are against him.

hollywood101 wrote:
Graham, while all these posts are at least measuring something on the ''i might aswell read'' meter, don't make yourself look a dick and imply Graham Taylor is some form of vampire or whatever you meant by your last comment, there's a good chap.

hollywood101 wrote:
congratulations. I almost believed you

grahamfransen wrote:

hollywood101 wrote: congratulations. I almost believed you

Yep, it was a good laugh! I am amazed how many fell for it, especially in view in some of my older postings! I notice that you and your pals on the WFC forums even opened a thread dedicated to it, and several more seemed to be taken in! All I am really saying, is give Bas some more time to prive himself. He might prove to be a villain in the long run, but at present he is doing just fine, as long as he keeps pumping the money in.

SAHornet wrote:
We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?

SAHornet wrote:
We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote: We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?

Couldn't agree more and I'd say it's the pro Bas who are trying to keep it alive Repeating themselves constantly so one post looks like the other except the authors avator. Trouble is not much on the footy front from the Wobby See Priskin has gone to Derby on loan As a starter for ten!

grahamfransen wrote:

Cleverhornet wrote:
That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.

I tell you the truth......

My backers are Mummy and Daddy!

LOL.

overthemooney wrote:
My yellow blooded friends. Perhaps you may want to concentrate on ridding our club from this joker instead of posting the usual stench. A few basic questions which you should ask yourself - Why did Timperley and GT not recommend Lozzers bid? Why did he pass up on buying Blackburn Rovers and buy a small club surrounded by Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea as well as the usual high numbers of southern based stinky northeners? His family are really not that wealthy, they have more money than me but people who buy football clubs can wipe their cracks with £50 notes. Who's money is funding the club? Are we surviving off the £5M plus that was aqcuired in transfer fees and existing sell on deals? You say he is going to build this, repair that and relay the pitch. Have any of these been done yet? Instead of sorting the pitch, he has invited the egg chasers to stay and scew it up some more. When are these posh twatts leaving? Open ended agreement? Building work is going on?? For a couple of hundred quid I can stick a load of scaffolding up. It makes my house look like a building site but b-lox all going on. Do any of you trust a man who was going to get one of his mum's friends to sit on the board with him? What would she know about running a football club? She had worked in smutters or bagels so what would she know about a multi million pound industry. Any of you worried yet? There have been some good comments about sticking together - good advice. Back SD, back the team and unite to rid the club of this pathetic fat slob of a man. We have allowed a fat little Gooner to mince into our club and rape it without being properley challenged. Take your fiver and go and buy an Arsenal air freshner for your Bentley. It must stink of you!

SAHornet wrote:
We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?

Cleverhornet wrote:
Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum???

Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one.

Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz.

I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy!

The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout!

On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol.

PurpleRalph wrote:

Cleverhornet wrote:
Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum???

Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one.

Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz.

I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy!

The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout!

On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol.

Dear Cleverhornet - I'm not as clever as you and have had no luck digging deeper on the internet to discover who the backers are. My theory is it could be Michael Sherwood of Goldman Sachs. I've seen him in the directors box this season. He's a former director, has piles of cash and is also Jewish so may well know Baz's Family? He doesn't have the time or inclination to get involved on a day to day basis or bottomlesss pockets, but cares about the club enough to see it avoid administration. He then finds a family friend with time on their hands (Baz) to run things, but advises him to keep his gob shut about the arrangement (cue convenient illnesses when required). Probably completely wrong but still possible. Oh go on give us all a clue who it really is????