Watford owner Laurence Bassini does not plan to hold Q&A with fans until New Year

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Watford owner Laurence Bassini has pulled out of tonight's question-and-answer session with supporters and does not plan to reschedule until the New Year.

Bassini was due to hold a Q&A with supporters on BBC Three Counties Radio after failing to attend a fans' forum two weeks ago.

But Watford have this afternoon released a statement which read: "I'd like to sincerely apologise to all Watford fans for this evening having to be postponed.

"I have had all the best intentions when it comes to both this and the fans' forum before it.

"I want to do the right thing and talk directly to supporters but I don't feel well enough to do that," he added.

"I really wanted to do this as soon after the fans forum as possible - and I thought that a week or so would be long enough for me to fully recover.

"So now, to make sure that I've had a chance to get properly back on an even keel, I'm going to ask BBC Three Counties to re-arrange the phone-in for some time early in the New Year."

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3:37pm Tue 22 Nov 11

dmuz says...

You were well enough to go to the game on Saturday though!!
You were well enough to go to the game on Saturday though!! dmuz

3:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RebelIan says...

Whoosh!!!! What was that? It was LB's very last shred of credibility rapidly disappearing out of the window! At least he'll have his pal Graham Fransen to tuck him up in his sickbed!!!
Whoosh!!!! What was that? It was LB's very last shred of credibility rapidly disappearing out of the window! At least he'll have his pal Graham Fransen to tuck him up in his sickbed!!! RebelIan

3:44pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Casterbridge says...

Meanwhile, couldn't it be done off-line, with 3CR fielding the questions, and Bassini's response (if any) posted on the club website?
Meanwhile, couldn't it be done off-line, with 3CR fielding the questions, and Bassini's response (if any) posted on the club website? Casterbridge

3:45pm Tue 22 Nov 11

wfcsteve says...

At least he's learnt something over the last couple of weeks.
At least he's let us know this time.
Still not either surprised or convinced though.
At least he's learnt something over the last couple of weeks. At least he's let us know this time. Still not either surprised or convinced though. wfcsteve

3:46pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Harold Hornet says...

He looked fine when he walked past me on Saturday. So if we did think there was something to hide, we definitely do now!
He looked fine when he walked past me on Saturday. So if we did think there was something to hide, we definitely do now! Harold Hornet

3:50pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Watfordpete says...

Bless.
Bless. Watfordpete

3:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

mile high ron says...

Where's Sid James and the rest of the Carry On team when you need them ?
Where's Sid James and the rest of the Carry On team when you need them ? mile high ron

3:51pm Tue 22 Nov 11

stevyweavy says...

Well what a surprise.

I guess it is probably better than going ahead with it and every answer being "I'm afraid I can't comment on that".

He is more elusive than the Scarlet Pimpernel!

Wonder what GT has to say about this - just as well he wasn't coming down specially to join in the broadcast and end up having to do it on his own.

Surely Baz knows how adversely this is affecting his popularity and whether you like it or not people can but think he definitely has something to hide.
Well what a surprise. I guess it is probably better than going ahead with it and every answer being "I'm afraid I can't comment on that". He is more elusive than the Scarlet Pimpernel! Wonder what GT has to say about this - just as well he wasn't coming down specially to join in the broadcast and end up having to do it on his own. Surely Baz knows how adversely this is affecting his popularity and whether you like it or not people can but think he definitely has something to hide. stevyweavy

3:52pm Tue 22 Nov 11

WFC4ever says...

Harold Hornet wrote:
He looked fine when he walked past me on Saturday. So if we did think there was something to hide, we definitely do now!
I would say the guy looked pale and a little tired but then Bas was talking to players and fans alike.

Again disappointing and no many will lose real faith in him.
[quote][p][bold]Harold Hornet[/bold] wrote: He looked fine when he walked past me on Saturday. So if we did think there was something to hide, we definitely do now![/p][/quote]I would say the guy looked pale and a little tired but then Bas was talking to players and fans alike. Again disappointing and no many will lose real faith in him. WFC4ever

3:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

buckler says...

He was laughing and joking on saturday as he had his walkabout with not one person even acknowledging him. What a total joke the bloke is!!
He was laughing and joking on saturday as he had his walkabout with not one person even acknowledging him. What a total joke the bloke is!! buckler

3:59pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha! Alex Hillcroft

4:02pm Tue 22 Nov 11

wfcsteve says...

OK everyone. Brace yourselves.
Fransen will be here any moment with more spin than a gyroscope.
OK everyone. Brace yourselves. Fransen will be here any moment with more spin than a gyroscope. wfcsteve

4:04pm Tue 22 Nov 11

BicesterLee says...

I've kept an open mind on LB, choosing not to pass judgement on him until there was concrete evidence one way or the other.

I must admit now though that this has again been handled very poorly as surely if he is still feeling unwell it probably didn't just happen today so he could have mentioned it yesterday. These last minute pull outs just raise more and more suspicion on top of what is already there with many.

You have to assume that he does read these message boards, hence he saw what sort of questions people may have asked so either he is being very elusive due to having something to hide, or he's hoping to have completed more in ground improvements, Red Lion etc to hope fans will be more favourable towards him in the New Year.

None of us will ever know until he actually talks to the fans so I'm just going to focus back on the team and our week to week performances, rather than endless speculation.
I've kept an open mind on LB, choosing not to pass judgement on him until there was concrete evidence one way or the other. I must admit now though that this has again been handled very poorly as surely if he is still feeling unwell it probably didn't just happen today so he could have mentioned it yesterday. These last minute pull outs just raise more and more suspicion on top of what is already there with many. You have to assume that he does read these message boards, hence he saw what sort of questions people may have asked so either he is being very elusive due to having something to hide, or he's hoping to have completed more in ground improvements, Red Lion etc to hope fans will be more favourable towards him in the New Year. None of us will ever know until he actually talks to the fans so I'm just going to focus back on the team and our week to week performances, rather than endless speculation. BicesterLee

4:04pm Tue 22 Nov 11

BassZZZZZini says...

Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...
Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke... BassZZZZZini

4:13pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Bush Hornet says...

TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team. Bush Hornet

4:19pm Tue 22 Nov 11

WFC4ever says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc?

Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know? WFC4ever

4:20pm Tue 22 Nov 11

buckler says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
Someone should lay into him! He must be well enough to answer a few questions! The man is taking us for Idiots and people like you back him up, Strange!
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]Someone should lay into him! He must be well enough to answer a few questions! The man is taking us for Idiots and people like you back him up, Strange! buckler

4:21pm Tue 22 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what?

We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum!

As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!!

And neither should you load of moaning muppets!!

Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!!

Get real, you guys!!
Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what? We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum! As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!! And neither should you load of moaning muppets!! Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!! Get real, you guys!! grahamfransen

4:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Mick Jones says...

Lay of him?? this is our football club and it is being run by a spineless baffoon, we are in serious trouble off the pitch with this guy in charge. SD is now getting it right on the pitch and we owe it to him and the team to ask the questions that secure the clubs future of the pitch. LB if you dont have the balls to answer a few questions that tells us all we need to know, no wonder you are a 3 times failed bankrupt. an Fansen before you start, take a running jump and make sure you get out the right side of the bed or you will end up wearing Laurences slippers.
Lay of him?? this is our football club and it is being run by a spineless baffoon, we are in serious trouble off the pitch with this guy in charge. SD is now getting it right on the pitch and we owe it to him and the team to ask the questions that secure the clubs future of the pitch. LB if you dont have the balls to answer a few questions that tells us all we need to know, no wonder you are a 3 times failed bankrupt. an Fansen before you start, take a running jump and make sure you get out the right side of the bed or you will end up wearing Laurences slippers. Mick Jones

4:25pm Tue 22 Nov 11

stevyweavy says...

BassZZZZZini wrote:
Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...
Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!
[quote][p][bold]BassZZZZZini[/bold] wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...[/p][/quote]Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey! stevyweavy

4:27pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

WFC4ever wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc?

Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?
Are you serious? How touching!
[quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? How touching! Alex Hillcroft

4:28pm Tue 22 Nov 11

stevyweavy says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what? We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum! As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!! And neither should you load of moaning muppets!! Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!! Get real, you guys!!
Now this is a real surprise!
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what? We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum! As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!! And neither should you load of moaning muppets!! Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!! Get real, you guys!![/p][/quote]Now this is a real surprise! stevyweavy

4:30pm Tue 22 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

stevyweavy wrote:
BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...
Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!
A bit like SEJ then!

Where is he these days?

Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now!

Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is!

And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!!
[quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassZZZZZini[/bold] wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...[/p][/quote]Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey![/p][/quote]A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!! grahamfransen

4:31pm Tue 22 Nov 11

LoveKeithDublin says...

This is not even funny - it's deeply worrying.

This is not Bassini's money, he is just the frontman for a nameless few "investors". We don't have any clue who's putting the money in, and crucially, what their intentions for Watford are? (from Bassini's conduct I'd suggest their intentions might not be good).

How Fransen can defend such a pitiful show by Bassini is beyond belief.

Sorry Baz - most babyish excuse of all time.
This is not even funny - it's deeply worrying. This is not Bassini's money, he is just the frontman for a nameless few "investors". We don't have any clue who's putting the money in, and crucially, what their intentions for Watford are? (from Bassini's conduct I'd suggest their intentions might not be good). How Fransen can defend such a pitiful show by Bassini is beyond belief. Sorry Baz - most babyish excuse of all time. LoveKeithDublin

4:32pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

grahamfransen wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...
Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!
A bit like SEJ then!

Where is he these days?

Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now!

Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is!

And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!!
You're really clutching at straws now aren't you mate?!
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassZZZZZini[/bold] wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...[/p][/quote]Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey![/p][/quote]A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!![/p][/quote]You're really clutching at straws now aren't you mate?! Alex Hillcroft

4:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

WFC4ever says...

Alex Hillcroft wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?
Are you serious? How touching!
Well I don't think he can be so ill physically that Bassini cannot even talk to fans via the phone?

People can be nervous and fears about talking in public..

Sorry,I know it sounds like an excuse but am frustrated like most of you than another chance to hear from him has been missed.

Just not very good PR for Bassini no matter what he may have done before to help the club.
[quote][p][bold]Alex Hillcroft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? How touching![/p][/quote]Well I don't think he can be so ill physically that Bassini cannot even talk to fans via the phone? People can be nervous and fears about talking in public.. Sorry,I know it sounds like an excuse but am frustrated like most of you than another chance to hear from him has been missed. Just not very good PR for Bassini no matter what he may have done before to help the club. WFC4ever

4:33pm Tue 22 Nov 11

rookery boy says...

it doesnt matter whether there are no other investors on the horizon or not!! This man is not prepared to answer questions about how he finances the club!! If he keeps putting off the fans we could be up to our necks in it by new year!! I cannot believe people are still sticking up for this fraud!!
I think James Murdoch must handle his PR!! I am afraid it is you who is a muppet Mr G Frandsen for not questioning where the money comes from and for thinking LB is our financial saviour!!
it doesnt matter whether there are no other investors on the horizon or not!! This man is not prepared to answer questions about how he finances the club!! If he keeps putting off the fans we could be up to our necks in it by new year!! I cannot believe people are still sticking up for this fraud!! I think James Murdoch must handle his PR!! I am afraid it is you who is a muppet Mr G Frandsen for not questioning where the money comes from and for thinking LB is our financial saviour!! rookery boy

4:34pm Tue 22 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Alex Hillcroft wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?
Are you serious? How touching!
How much do you earn?

I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier!

If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas?

He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!
[quote][p][bold]Alex Hillcroft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? How touching![/p][/quote]How much do you earn? I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier! If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas? He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!! grahamfransen

4:37pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Rusty Bakayoko says...

If LB does read these forums then he needs to realise that until he faces the fan's and fields their questions the negativity towards him will continue.

At the moment there are too many unanswered questions and he needs to fix this situation quickly.
If LB does read these forums then he needs to realise that until he faces the fan's and fields their questions the negativity towards him will continue. At the moment there are too many unanswered questions and he needs to fix this situation quickly. Rusty Bakayoko

4:39pm Tue 22 Nov 11

llloydwithathirdl says...

Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know... llloydwithathirdl

4:42pm Tue 22 Nov 11

The Rover says...

Lets all wait for someone to slate him for cancelling, giving him the excuse to have an eppy fit and not to put any more money into the club. Oh hang on, that was last week!
Lets all wait for someone to slate him for cancelling, giving him the excuse to have an eppy fit and not to put any more money into the club. Oh hang on, that was last week! The Rover

4:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...
Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!!

If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into!
[quote][p][bold]llloydwithathirdl[/bold] wrote: Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...[/p][/quote]Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!! If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into! grahamfransen

4:53pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

Why would the new 'owner' of a football club not want to answer fans' concerns about his business background and the way he is funding the club's day-to-day running costs?
Why would the new 'owner' of a football club not want to answer fans' concerns about his business background and the way he is funding the club's day-to-day running costs? Alex Hillcroft

4:53pm Tue 22 Nov 11

derry pigweed says...

Run laurence, Run laurence, Run Run Run............!
Run laurence, Run laurence, Run Run Run............! derry pigweed

4:53pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

grahamfransen wrote:
llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...
Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!!

If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into!
Here's hoping he does leave.

I am not one blind bit grateful to this whimp of a man!!

The sooner he "does one", the better.

Come on JR, remove this pathetic excuse of a man!!
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llloydwithathirdl[/bold] wrote: Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...[/p][/quote]Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!! If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into![/p][/quote]Here's hoping he does leave. I am not one blind bit grateful to this whimp of a man!! The sooner he "does one", the better. Come on JR, remove this pathetic excuse of a man!! Jan Lohman

4:53pm Tue 22 Nov 11

d.j.smith says...

This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see.
This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see. d.j.smith

4:54pm Tue 22 Nov 11

rookery boy says...

What money GF?? Wheres your proof of what money LB has put in?? Exactly ...you havent any because he never turns up at meetings and answers questions!! All you do is band about very vague financial facts when EVEN YOU, dont know where the moneys coming from!!
What money GF?? Wheres your proof of what money LB has put in?? Exactly ...you havent any because he never turns up at meetings and answers questions!! All you do is band about very vague financial facts when EVEN YOU, dont know where the moneys coming from!! rookery boy

4:59pm Tue 22 Nov 11

wfcsteve says...

Perhaps Baz has been spending too much time with Fransen.
I felt really quite ill just now, and then stopped reading his rubbish and suddenly felt a lot better.
Perhaps Baz has been spending too much time with Fransen. I felt really quite ill just now, and then stopped reading his rubbish and suddenly felt a lot better. wfcsteve

5:01pm Tue 22 Nov 11

lutondown says...

Lost for words! But just heard its back on again
On? Off ?
Whims?
Enough said
Lost for words! But just heard its back on again On? Off ? Whims? Enough said lutondown

5:06pm Tue 22 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

d.j.smith wrote:
This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see.
Good to see someone talking some real sense, instead of the usual knee-jerk reactions from the serial moaners!!
[quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see.[/p][/quote]Good to see someone talking some real sense, instead of the usual knee-jerk reactions from the serial moaners!! grahamfransen

5:06pm Tue 22 Nov 11

smalon says...

So how ill is he that he can't sit in a nice warm studio and talk to people?
So how ill is he that he can't sit in a nice warm studio and talk to people? smalon

5:09pm Tue 22 Nov 11

WFC4ever says...

grahamfransen wrote:
d.j.smith wrote: This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see.
Good to see someone talking some real sense, instead of the usual knee-jerk reactions from the serial moaners!!
I agree he is probably ill and maybe nervous at having to talk to people he doesn't know but I think fans are frustrated they just haven't had the chance to hear what Bassini has to say.

For what its worth I agree that it appears Bas does have some good ideas for the club but again I think folks just wanted to known how it was all funded given the farce with Simpson and co over the "ringfenced" money etc.

Ofcourse if people were just going to ring up and be abuse then clearly that wouldn't be right or fair but I suspect most would be pretty sane and question in the correct manner.
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: This clearly doesn't look good. But maybe the poor guy is simply terrified of this kind of public forum. He may have found himself thrust into a public arena for which absolutely nothing in his previous experience has prepared him. And if (a very big if) he does read columns like this, that fear may have turned to absolute terror! There are simply far too many morons disguised as Watford fans who pour out the vitriol at a moment's notice; Sean Dyce has had his full share of this in recent weeks from idiots who have neither patience nor much real knowledge of football. In the end Bassini will be judged by actions not words, so let's wait and see; I would far rather have a chairman/owner whose record shows consistent commitment to the club and its values even though he was not good at explaining himself, than a sweet-talking guy who lied through his teeth and failed to walk the talk. Let's wait and see.[/p][/quote]Good to see someone talking some real sense, instead of the usual knee-jerk reactions from the serial moaners!![/p][/quote]I agree he is probably ill and maybe nervous at having to talk to people he doesn't know but I think fans are frustrated they just haven't had the chance to hear what Bassini has to say. For what its worth I agree that it appears Bas does have some good ideas for the club but again I think folks just wanted to known how it was all funded given the farce with Simpson and co over the "ringfenced" money etc. Ofcourse if people were just going to ring up and be abuse then clearly that wouldn't be right or fair but I suspect most would be pretty sane and question in the correct manner. WFC4ever

5:13pm Tue 22 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals!

Let us wait until the New Year, because:

Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions.

We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs.

The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer.

The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed.

The SW corner will have seen some further action.

We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch.

We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day.

Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights.

And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas.

Ah. I feel so much better after that!
Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals! Let us wait until the New Year, because: Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions. We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs. The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer. The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed. The SW corner will have seen some further action. We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch. We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day. Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights. And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas. Ah. I feel so much better after that! grahamfransen

5:15pm Tue 22 Nov 11

herts hornet says...

I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in

how right this person was !!!

WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all
I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in how right this person was !!! WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all herts hornet

5:20pm Tue 22 Nov 11

stevyweavy says...

grahamfransen wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...
Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!
A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!!
I am sorry but your comments seem to point towards a direct link to Baz in which case you have an advantage over all the rest of us "morons" that do not know what to believe and what not to believe.

And as for the association of SEJ - everything he has done and spent on WFC is clear in history and hello he recently did another concert for WFC so no one can reasonably doubt what he has done for WFC and what he continues to do for WFC from time to time but he has done his time and spent his money and now the focus is on the current "owner" and unfortunately it is not so plain to see and the recent no shows and a reluctance to put any substance behind his involvement continues to detract from anything positive that he may be doing.

The Panos Thomas involvement in buying the club then Bas as well then no Panos, the let's add three additional members to the board, name them and then say no they are not joining the board (including one female counsellor who even admitted she did not know anything about football or what she would be doing on the board) with no real explanation, the continued uncertainty surrounding anything Bas is nothing like SEJ or in fact any of the other owners we have had at the club to date.

You can say what you like but true supporters of the club do have a reasonable right to be provided with more information than has so far been forthcoming and grahamfransen or who ever you really are can keep defending the owner but until he (you?) provides something more tangible you are going to be very much in a minority of one.
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassZZZZZini[/bold] wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...[/p][/quote]Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey![/p][/quote]A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!![/p][/quote]I am sorry but your comments seem to point towards a direct link to Baz in which case you have an advantage over all the rest of us "morons" that do not know what to believe and what not to believe. And as for the association of SEJ - everything he has done and spent on WFC is clear in history and hello he recently did another concert for WFC so no one can reasonably doubt what he has done for WFC and what he continues to do for WFC from time to time but he has done his time and spent his money and now the focus is on the current "owner" and unfortunately it is not so plain to see and the recent no shows and a reluctance to put any substance behind his involvement continues to detract from anything positive that he may be doing. The Panos Thomas involvement in buying the club then Bas as well then no Panos, the let's add three additional members to the board, name them and then say no they are not joining the board (including one female counsellor who even admitted she did not know anything about football or what she would be doing on the board) with no real explanation, the continued uncertainty surrounding anything Bas is nothing like SEJ or in fact any of the other owners we have had at the club to date. You can say what you like but true supporters of the club do have a reasonable right to be provided with more information than has so far been forthcoming and grahamfransen or who ever you really are can keep defending the owner but until he (you?) provides something more tangible you are going to be very much in a minority of one. stevyweavy

5:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

abbotswreck says...

Fransen if he is ill then a few questions that he should have all the answers to would surely be a breeze. What is making him ill is the fact he has no answers to our questions and wants to dodge them. If he was sure of himself and what he was doing then there would be no need to hide. Once is enough but twice even you must start to wonder what sort of bloke you are trying to get into bed with. ****
Fransen if he is ill then a few questions that he should have all the answers to would surely be a breeze. What is making him ill is the fact he has no answers to our questions and wants to dodge them. If he was sure of himself and what he was doing then there would be no need to hide. Once is enough but twice even you must start to wonder what sort of bloke you are trying to get into bed with. **** abbotswreck

5:28pm Tue 22 Nov 11

RebelIan says...

I don't know who to laugh at most. LB or Fransen's pathetic attempts to cover for him?!!
I don't know who to laugh at most. LB or Fransen's pathetic attempts to cover for him?!! RebelIan

5:30pm Tue 22 Nov 11

llloydwithathirdl says...

All I did was ask what is wrong with him and Fransen has jumped down my throat screaming about how wonderful this sick bankrupt fool is.

Wind up merchant.
All I did was ask what is wrong with him and Fransen has jumped down my throat screaming about how wonderful this sick bankrupt fool is. Wind up merchant. llloydwithathirdl

5:31pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals!

Let us wait until the New Year, because:

Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions.

We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs.

The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer.

The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed.

The SW corner will have seen some further action.

We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch.

We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day.

Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights.

And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas.

Ah. I feel so much better after that!
Come on, Fransen - or anyone else for that matter - why would the new 'owner' of a football club NOT want to answer fans' concerns about his business background and the way he is funding the club's day-to-day running costs?
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals! Let us wait until the New Year, because: Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions. We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs. The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer. The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed. The SW corner will have seen some further action. We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch. We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day. Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights. And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas. Ah. I feel so much better after that![/p][/quote]Come on, Fransen - or anyone else for that matter - why would the new 'owner' of a football club NOT want to answer fans' concerns about his business background and the way he is funding the club's day-to-day running costs? Alex Hillcroft

5:32pm Tue 22 Nov 11

bigthunder says...

You could not make it up !

Even if ill now, cannot re schedule until the new year why ?

Because you have know intention in talking just say it and end this pantomine, you are seen as joke figure now, GT was right all along, just clear off man
You could not make it up ! Even if ill now, cannot re schedule until the new year why ? Because you have know intention in talking just say it and end this pantomine, you are seen as joke figure now, GT was right all along, just clear off man bigthunder

5:37pm Tue 22 Nov 11

inayellowshirt says...

bigthunder wrote:
You could not make it up !

Even if ill now, cannot re schedule until the new year why ?

Because you have know intention in talking just say it and end this pantomine, you are seen as joke figure now, GT was right all along, just clear off man
"I have had all the best intentions when it comes to both this and the fans' forum before it.

"I want to do the right thing and talk directly to supporters but I don't feel well enough to do that"

Hollow words Mr Bassini.. hope you are really not as cashless as you appear spineless.
[quote][p][bold]bigthunder[/bold] wrote: You could not make it up ! Even if ill now, cannot re schedule until the new year why ? Because you have know intention in talking just say it and end this pantomine, you are seen as joke figure now, GT was right all along, just clear off man[/p][/quote]"I have had all the best intentions when it comes to both this and the fans' forum before it. "I want to do the right thing and talk directly to supporters but I don't feel well enough to do that" Hollow words Mr Bassini.. hope you are really not as cashless as you appear spineless. inayellowshirt

5:38pm Tue 22 Nov 11

stevyweavy says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals! Let us wait until the New Year, because: Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions. We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs. The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer. The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed. The SW corner will have seen some further action. We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch. We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day. Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights. And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas. Ah. I feel so much better after that!
Unfortunately we do not all have your crystal ball / inside information. We are on the outside looking in and it is very much like the fog we have at the moment - we can't see a thing. So far all we are getting is that it will all be alright some time in the future. He has now been in long enough to at least feed us a few morsels to satisfy our curiosity / fears for the club.
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals! Let us wait until the New Year, because: Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions. We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs. The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer. The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed. The SW corner will have seen some further action. We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch. We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day. Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights. And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas. Ah. I feel so much better after that![/p][/quote]Unfortunately we do not all have your crystal ball / inside information. We are on the outside looking in and it is very much like the fog we have at the moment - we can't see a thing. So far all we are getting is that it will all be alright some time in the future. He has now been in long enough to at least feed us a few morsels to satisfy our curiosity / fears for the club. stevyweavy

5:56pm Tue 22 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

Rusty Bakayoko wrote:
If LB does read these forums then he needs to realise that until he faces the fan's and fields their questions the negativity towards him will continue. At the moment there are too many unanswered questions and he needs to fix this situation quickly.
Why? Why should he actually give a stuff what we think? Seriously?
[quote][p][bold]Rusty Bakayoko[/bold] wrote: If LB does read these forums then he needs to realise that until he faces the fan's and fields their questions the negativity towards him will continue. At the moment there are too many unanswered questions and he needs to fix this situation quickly.[/p][/quote]Why? Why should he actually give a stuff what we think? Seriously? strummerjoe

5:57pm Tue 22 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

BicesterLee wrote:
I've kept an open mind on LB, choosing not to pass judgement on him until there was concrete evidence one way or the other. I must admit now though that this has again been handled very poorly as surely if he is still feeling unwell it probably didn't just happen today so he could have mentioned it yesterday. These last minute pull outs just raise more and more suspicion on top of what is already there with many. You have to assume that he does read these message boards, hence he saw what sort of questions people may have asked so either he is being very elusive due to having something to hide, or he's hoping to have completed more in ground improvements, Red Lion etc to hope fans will be more favourable towards him in the New Year. None of us will ever know until he actually talks to the fans so I'm just going to focus back on the team and our week to week performances, rather than endless speculation.
A very sensible post.
[quote][p][bold]BicesterLee[/bold] wrote: I've kept an open mind on LB, choosing not to pass judgement on him until there was concrete evidence one way or the other. I must admit now though that this has again been handled very poorly as surely if he is still feeling unwell it probably didn't just happen today so he could have mentioned it yesterday. These last minute pull outs just raise more and more suspicion on top of what is already there with many. You have to assume that he does read these message boards, hence he saw what sort of questions people may have asked so either he is being very elusive due to having something to hide, or he's hoping to have completed more in ground improvements, Red Lion etc to hope fans will be more favourable towards him in the New Year. None of us will ever know until he actually talks to the fans so I'm just going to focus back on the team and our week to week performances, rather than endless speculation.[/p][/quote]A very sensible post. strummerjoe

6:00pm Tue 22 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

herts hornet wrote:
I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in how right this person was !!! WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all
Yes, just go Bassini, and...........
What? Who is going to buy a loss-making football club and continue to fund its losses for the forseeable future?

Answers on a postcard......
[quote][p][bold]herts hornet[/bold] wrote: I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in how right this person was !!! WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all[/p][/quote]Yes, just go Bassini, and........... What? Who is going to buy a loss-making football club and continue to fund its losses for the forseeable future? Answers on a postcard...... strummerjoe

6:03pm Tue 22 Nov 11

HemelWFC says...

What total disrespect to Watford supporters this guy is showing. Again turns down the chance to talk to supporters to give us reassurances that he's not screwing this club to the ground!, and only has nothing but good intentions for WFC.
If he has only good intentions and all is above board with where the money is coming from, then surely he'd be jumping through all type's of media hoop to gain as much support as possible, but the fact he won't talk shows he has things to hide, which can not be good for the future of WFC.
Bas....If your the front man for the russo then just say so, then we can all get on with the future of WFC, whatever that may be, but with all this messing around cannot be good for anybody, club, supporters or yourself. Sort it out ASAP!!!
What total disrespect to Watford supporters this guy is showing. Again turns down the chance to talk to supporters to give us reassurances that he's not screwing this club to the ground!, and only has nothing but good intentions for WFC. If he has only good intentions and all is above board with where the money is coming from, then surely he'd be jumping through all type's of media hoop to gain as much support as possible, but the fact he won't talk shows he has things to hide, which can not be good for the future of WFC. Bas....If your the front man for the russo then just say so, then we can all get on with the future of WFC, whatever that may be, but with all this messing around cannot be good for anybody, club, supporters or yourself. Sort it out ASAP!!! HemelWFC

6:07pm Tue 22 Nov 11

llloydwithathirdl says...

strummerjoe wrote:
herts hornet wrote:
I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in how right this person was !!! WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all
Yes, just go Bassini, and...........
What? Who is going to buy a loss-making football club and continue to fund its losses for the forseeable future?

Answers on a postcard......
That's just the point Joe. Someone did buy a loss making football club then continued to fund its loses and nobody knows how or why. His name is / was Laurence Bazini
[quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]herts hornet[/bold] wrote: I was with someone who until recently worked at WFC on Saturday and when we got onto subject of Bassini the person concerned just smiled and said there is NO WAY he will ever do any form of fans forum or phone in how right this person was !!! WHAT A JOKER this bassini guy is, just go man you are a laughing stock and have no credability at all[/p][/quote]Yes, just go Bassini, and........... What? Who is going to buy a loss-making football club and continue to fund its losses for the forseeable future? Answers on a postcard......[/p][/quote]That's just the point Joe. Someone did buy a loss making football club then continued to fund its loses and nobody knows how or why. His name is / was Laurence Bazini llloydwithathirdl

6:10pm Tue 22 Nov 11

SAHornet says...

stevyweavy wrote:
grahamfransen wrote:
stevyweavy wrote:
BassZZZZZini wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...
Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey!
A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!!
I am sorry but your comments seem to point towards a direct link to Baz in which case you have an advantage over all the rest of us "morons" that do not know what to believe and what not to believe.

And as for the association of SEJ - everything he has done and spent on WFC is clear in history and hello he recently did another concert for WFC so no one can reasonably doubt what he has done for WFC and what he continues to do for WFC from time to time but he has done his time and spent his money and now the focus is on the current "owner" and unfortunately it is not so plain to see and the recent no shows and a reluctance to put any substance behind his involvement continues to detract from anything positive that he may be doing.

The Panos Thomas involvement in buying the club then Bas as well then no Panos, the let's add three additional members to the board, name them and then say no they are not joining the board (including one female counsellor who even admitted she did not know anything about football or what she would be doing on the board) with no real explanation, the continued uncertainty surrounding anything Bas is nothing like SEJ or in fact any of the other owners we have had at the club to date.

You can say what you like but true supporters of the club do have a reasonable right to be provided with more information than has so far been forthcoming and grahamfransen or who ever you really are can keep defending the owner but until he (you?) provides something more tangible you are going to be very much in a minority of one.
This is the most insightful comment of the evening. Well said, stevyweavy. I believe that this, once and for all time, shows all true WFC fans who and what our owner really is. Expect the worst guys for it's coming down the tracks faster than we expected. Be scared.....very scared!
[quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevyweavy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassZZZZZini[/bold] wrote: Flakier than a box of Kelloggs, that bloke...[/p][/quote]Flakier than a Cadbury's Flake - now that's flakey![/p][/quote]A bit like SEJ then! Where is he these days? Oh, he could not give a s*"t about WFC now! Bas is the only one willing to put his money where his mouth is! And until one of you serial moaners can match this, I suggest you just shut up and be grateful to the guy!![/p][/quote]I am sorry but your comments seem to point towards a direct link to Baz in which case you have an advantage over all the rest of us "morons" that do not know what to believe and what not to believe. And as for the association of SEJ - everything he has done and spent on WFC is clear in history and hello he recently did another concert for WFC so no one can reasonably doubt what he has done for WFC and what he continues to do for WFC from time to time but he has done his time and spent his money and now the focus is on the current "owner" and unfortunately it is not so plain to see and the recent no shows and a reluctance to put any substance behind his involvement continues to detract from anything positive that he may be doing. The Panos Thomas involvement in buying the club then Bas as well then no Panos, the let's add three additional members to the board, name them and then say no they are not joining the board (including one female counsellor who even admitted she did not know anything about football or what she would be doing on the board) with no real explanation, the continued uncertainty surrounding anything Bas is nothing like SEJ or in fact any of the other owners we have had at the club to date. You can say what you like but true supporters of the club do have a reasonable right to be provided with more information than has so far been forthcoming and grahamfransen or who ever you really are can keep defending the owner but until he (you?) provides something more tangible you are going to be very much in a minority of one.[/p][/quote]This is the most insightful comment of the evening. Well said, stevyweavy. I believe that this, once and for all time, shows all true WFC fans who and what our owner really is. Expect the worst guys for it's coming down the tracks faster than we expected. Be scared.....very scared! SAHornet

6:10pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Mjp99 says...

grahamfransen wrote:
llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...
Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!!

If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into!
For this to happen he would have to put his money in first would he not ? So far he is keeping the club afloat with its own money from sales , the real worry should be not his sudden illness , but what happens when all the family silver has been sold ?
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llloydwithathirdl[/bold] wrote: Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...[/p][/quote]Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!! If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into![/p][/quote]For this to happen he would have to put his money in first would he not ? So far he is keeping the club afloat with its own money from sales , the real worry should be not his sudden illness , but what happens when all the family silver has been sold ? Mjp99

6:13pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Berks Horn says...

Not surprised at all. Anyone who had any doubt that this guy was bad news for the club surely can no longer be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. What a joke.

In GT we trust.
Not surprised at all. Anyone who had any doubt that this guy was bad news for the club surely can no longer be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. What a joke. In GT we trust. Berks Horn

6:21pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Oracledave says...

I think alternatives can be pursued.
For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc).

That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek !

How about it Mr Editor ?
I think alternatives can be pursued. For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc). That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek ! How about it Mr Editor ? Oracledave

6:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Bush Hornet says...

Oracledave wrote:
I think alternatives can be pursued.
For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc).

That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek !

How about it Mr Editor ?
Fair comment
[quote][p][bold]Oracledave[/bold] wrote: I think alternatives can be pursued. For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc). That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek ! How about it Mr Editor ?[/p][/quote]Fair comment Bush Hornet

6:59pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
Oracledave wrote:
I think alternatives can be pursued.
For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc).

That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek !

How about it Mr Editor ?
Fair comment
The WO ran a front page 'open letter' to Bashful Baz shortly after the takeover was complete.
A week later, he gave a detail-free reply which stressed that it was “difficult at this early stage” to answer the questions – even the ones about his past and the deal just completed – filling the vacant spaces with meaning-free drivel about being “custodians here for a snapshot of time.”

Having avoided anything resembling new information, he then claimed “good communication is key to generate the unity which already exists at Vicarage Road."
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oracledave[/bold] wrote: I think alternatives can be pursued. For example the WO could seek an interview in the warmth and comfort of 'Bassini Towers' ( cup of tea, choccy biscuits etc). That way the questions could be submitted in advance and measured replies given. That would suit me because the Wobby know only too well what information to seek ! How about it Mr Editor ?[/p][/quote]Fair comment[/p][/quote]The WO ran a front page 'open letter' to Bashful Baz shortly after the takeover was complete. A week later, he gave a detail-free reply which stressed that it was “difficult at this early stage” to answer the questions – even the ones about his past and the deal just completed – filling the vacant spaces with meaning-free drivel about being “custodians here for a snapshot of time.” Having avoided anything resembling new information, he then claimed “good communication is key to generate the unity which already exists at Vicarage Road." Alex Hillcroft

7:22pm Tue 22 Nov 11

buckler says...

Jimmy Russos makes this clown like Albert Steptoe! Take a poll now and I
Bet I know who most would prefer?
Jimmy Russos makes this clown like Albert Steptoe! Take a poll now and I Bet I know who most would prefer? buckler

7:22pm Tue 22 Nov 11

mkhornet says...

It's pure supposition as to whether he is ill or not but I think that you have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. If he doesn't re-arrange again for early January or he does another no-show then I think we would all be within our rights to draw our own conclusions.
It's pure supposition as to whether he is ill or not but I think that you have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. If he doesn't re-arrange again for early January or he does another no-show then I think we would all be within our rights to draw our own conclusions. mkhornet

7:35pm Tue 22 Nov 11

sceptic says...

This is all going to end in tears!!
This is all going to end in tears!! sceptic

7:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11

lutondown says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals!

Let us wait until the New Year, because:

Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions.

We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs.

The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer.

The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed.

The SW corner will have seen some further action.

We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch.

We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day.

Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights.

And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas.

Ah. I feel so much better after that!
im sort of dissapointed the orthapedic Surgeon Dr Panty Hose didn't join the board as I've a terrible problem with my 18 hour girdle, its killing me!
Now Frantic Franny I will take your points one by one!
Let us wait for the new year, say how about 2021, he may have recovered by then.
We will be mid table. In the blue square.
The Red Lion is now a Kosher Resteraunt called (big) Bloomers.
The new A system is now in Bas's mansion that sits where Watford FC used to.
The SW Corner now has a Morrisons adorning the space
The Desso (?) pitch is now part putting green for Bas and cronies (Dr Panty Hose and loyal lap dog Fransen)
Cardiff will betop of the Prem managed by Sir MacTosh (yuk)
Christmas has been replaced by Hannukah
Sean Dyche finally went mad and is in rehab.
Oh and Fransen is still wearing his soiled tights and panties.
Mad!
SEJ TAYLOR MADE ARMY!!!!
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: Here is a revolutionary idea for some of you very sad individuals! Let us wait until the New Year, because: Bas will be over his illness and in a far better state to answer your questions. We will be mid-table, and pushing for an outside chance of the play-offs. The Red Lion will be open where we can all enjoy some fun, food, fellowship, and beer. The new PA system, and the new screens will be fully completed. The SW corner will have seen some further action. We will only be a few more months away from our new Desso pitch. We will have thrashed the treacherous Jock on Boxing Day. Everyone will have had a nice Christmas, especially SD and Bas as they lead us on to new heights. And you can all make your New Year Resolutions of seeing WFC push for the play-offs under the expert guidance of SD and Bas. Ah. I feel so much better after that![/p][/quote]im sort of dissapointed the orthapedic Surgeon Dr Panty Hose didn't join the board as I've a terrible problem with my 18 hour girdle, its killing me! Now Frantic Franny I will take your points one by one! Let us wait for the new year, say how about 2021, he may have recovered by then. We will be mid table. In the blue square. The Red Lion is now a Kosher Resteraunt called (big) Bloomers. The new A system is now in Bas's mansion that sits where Watford FC used to. The SW Corner now has a Morrisons adorning the space The Desso (?) pitch is now part putting green for Bas and cronies (Dr Panty Hose and loyal lap dog Fransen) Cardiff will betop of the Prem managed by Sir MacTosh (yuk) Christmas has been replaced by Hannukah Sean Dyche finally went mad and is in rehab. Oh and Fransen is still wearing his soiled tights and panties. Mad! SEJ TAYLOR MADE ARMY!!!! lutondown

7:44pm Tue 22 Nov 11

buckler says...

sceptic wrote:
It will all end in tears!
What you mean like all of his other failed business ventures!
[quote][p][bold]sceptic[/bold] wrote: It will all end in tears![/p][/quote]What you mean like all of his other failed business ventures! buckler

7:48pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Harrydownunder says...

If he is still sick then why did he agree to it in the first place. Never known a business owner to be so unreliable!
If he is still sick then why did he agree to it in the first place. Never known a business owner to be so unreliable! Harrydownunder

8:07pm Tue 22 Nov 11

LoveKeithDublin says...

Surely the happenings over the past two weeks should be a reporter's dream!

Why aren't the Watford Observer reporters digging into this and getting the inside story??
Surely the happenings over the past two weeks should be a reporter's dream! Why aren't the Watford Observer reporters digging into this and getting the inside story?? LoveKeithDublin

8:08pm Tue 22 Nov 11

bonserout says...

I love this message board.
Two weeks ago
S.D. Sh-t
Team Sh-t
Loach Sh-t
Nosworthy Why loan him he's sh-t
Tayoy's Sh-t
Hodson's Sh-t
Doyley's Sh-t (mind you he is Sh-t)
Red Lion will never reopen (where did that scaffolding come from)
Now everything is rosy lets get back on the owners case!!
Can anyone tell me apart from his total lack of PR skills whats has the bloke actually done wrong ?
I love this message board. Two weeks ago S.D. Sh-t Team Sh-t Loach Sh-t Nosworthy Why loan him he's sh-t Tayoy's Sh-t Hodson's Sh-t Doyley's Sh-t (mind you he is Sh-t) Red Lion will never reopen (where did that scaffolding come from) Now everything is rosy lets get back on the owners case!! Can anyone tell me apart from his total lack of PR skills whats has the bloke actually done wrong ? bonserout

8:09pm Tue 22 Nov 11

peter10531089 says...

At least this time GT is not in a compromised position and forced to make comment.

Frandsen I am sure you will spiel your usual nonsense that this latest no show, like changing your name after going bankrupt makes LB a close relative of Alan Sugar, Richard Branson or God but all it really does is hammer another nail in the coffin of our beloved club.
At least this time GT is not in a compromised position and forced to make comment. Frandsen I am sure you will spiel your usual nonsense that this latest no show, like changing your name after going bankrupt makes LB a close relative of Alan Sugar, Richard Branson or God but all it really does is hammer another nail in the coffin of our beloved club. peter10531089

8:11pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC.

The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic.

By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?!
He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC. The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic. By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?! Jan Lohman

8:16pm Tue 22 Nov 11

SAHornet says...

bonserout wrote:
I love this message board.
Two weeks ago
S.D. Sh-t
Team Sh-t
Loach Sh-t
Nosworthy Why loan him he's sh-t
Tayoy's Sh-t
Hodson's Sh-t
Doyley's Sh-t (mind you he is Sh-t)
Red Lion will never reopen (where did that scaffolding come from)
Now everything is rosy lets get back on the owners case!!
Can anyone tell me apart from his total lack of PR skills whats has the bloke actually done wrong ?
You wont be saying that when he cuts and runs leaving sfa for the fans
[quote][p][bold]bonserout[/bold] wrote: I love this message board. Two weeks ago S.D. Sh-t Team Sh-t Loach Sh-t Nosworthy Why loan him he's sh-t Tayoy's Sh-t Hodson's Sh-t Doyley's Sh-t (mind you he is Sh-t) Red Lion will never reopen (where did that scaffolding come from) Now everything is rosy lets get back on the owners case!! Can anyone tell me apart from his total lack of PR skills whats has the bloke actually done wrong ?[/p][/quote]You wont be saying that when he cuts and runs leaving sfa for the fans SAHornet

8:20pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Feff says...

Would the Watford Observcer please find out how the previously bankrupt Bazini found enough money to buy WFC, under the name Bassini, and where Panos Thomas fits in? Who lent Bassini the money? Was it Thomas? Is Bassini merely the front man of a syndicate that includes Thomas? Perhaps grahamfransen can tell us!
Would the Watford Observcer please find out how the previously bankrupt Bazini found enough money to buy WFC, under the name Bassini, and where Panos Thomas fits in? Who lent Bassini the money? Was it Thomas? Is Bassini merely the front man of a syndicate that includes Thomas? Perhaps grahamfransen can tell us! Feff

8:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

stevemag says...

Bonserout - your post is very funny it made me laugh .

And yes, doyley is sh-t !
Bonserout - your post is very funny it made me laugh . And yes, doyley is sh-t ! stevemag

8:49pm Tue 22 Nov 11

overthemooney says...

I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen
I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen overthemooney

8:57pm Tue 22 Nov 11

SAHornet says...

overthemooney wrote:
I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen
Mogadon, more like....lot's and lot's of it
[quote][p][bold]overthemooney[/bold] wrote: I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen[/p][/quote]Mogadon, more like....lot's and lot's of it SAHornet

9:23pm Tue 22 Nov 11

derry pigweed says...

Great post

Bassini is the new Arthur Dayley....!
Great post Bassini is the new Arthur Dayley....! derry pigweed

10:56pm Tue 22 Nov 11

Berks Horn says...

overthemooney wrote:
I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen
First mention of the SEM Group on here overthemooney - do you know something we don't?
[quote][p][bold]overthemooney[/bold] wrote: I can't believe you lot are being so soft on this clown. He clearly has no intention of answering any questions at any time in the future. Perhaps we should just cut out the middle man and get Jerome Anderson to sit in the 3CR hot seat and answer the questions we all want answered. I know there was widespread dislike of the salad brothers but at least they would have had the sprouts to front the supporters. Basini (not Bassini) - you are a pathetic excuse for a man, let alone an owner of a football club. Perhaps you should sell your recently acquired Bentley and get yourself some decent medical care! I will lend you a fiver for some nurofen[/p][/quote]First mention of the SEM Group on here overthemooney - do you know something we don't? Berks Horn

11:01pm Tue 22 Nov 11

There was only one Scully says...

A plea to Baz.
Oh Baz, what have you gone and done again! Another sick note and not really a convincing one based, on your weekend activities I hear.
Your problem is you, have surrounded yourself within the club with brown nose types who agree with what you are doing from, the catering staff right through to the new self imposed autonomous board you have selected.
As a captain of your destiny and industry you must understand that good management starts with being honest and upfont with those that you need being, your customers/fans.
Believe me, having people around you that subscribe to your negative forms of communication are not helping your standing with the fans and the great public at large.
You threw your toys out the pram last week when, GT dared to criticise your non event at the forum and this was a Golden(sic) opportunity for you to listen to your fare paying audience!
I am fairly sure 3CR would have ensured you did not get any Q's which may have been awkward, embarrassing to answer.
I'm afraid you blew it Baz and you have got it all to do if, you really want the backing of us fans and the belief you really are not looking to take us down a familiar road you have travelled before!
Lets have no more threats and please prove me wrong!
A plea to Baz. Oh Baz, what have you gone and done again! Another sick note and not really a convincing one based, on your weekend activities I hear. Your problem is you, have surrounded yourself within the club with brown nose types who agree with what you are doing from, the catering staff right through to the new self imposed autonomous board you have selected. As a captain of your destiny and industry you must understand that good management starts with being honest and upfont with those that you need being, your customers/fans. Believe me, having people around you that subscribe to your negative forms of communication are not helping your standing with the fans and the great public at large. You threw your toys out the pram last week when, GT dared to criticise your non event at the forum and this was a Golden(sic) opportunity for you to listen to your fare paying audience! I am fairly sure 3CR would have ensured you did not get any Q's which may have been awkward, embarrassing to answer. I'm afraid you blew it Baz and you have got it all to do if, you really want the backing of us fans and the belief you really are not looking to take us down a familiar road you have travelled before! Lets have no more threats and please prove me wrong! There was only one Scully

11:26pm Tue 22 Nov 11

tonyevans22 says...

Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it.

How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies.

So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG..
Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it. How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies. So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG.. tonyevans22

7:38am Wed 23 Nov 11

llloydwithathirdl says...

tonyevans22 wrote:
Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it.

How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies.

So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG..
Nothing wrong or just nothing?
[quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it. How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies. So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG..[/p][/quote]Nothing wrong or just nothing? llloydwithathirdl

8:02am Wed 23 Nov 11

corbindallas says...

Question, do we want a Ken Bates or Peter Risdale owner who talk out of their backsides and milk their clubs or do we want a owner that does not talk? Yes his 2nd non appearance is not good, yes his PR is rubbish, yes he is ill (MRI scans etc.), and maybe he does have a real problem with f2f interaction. He did not appoint himself as Chairman as he could have at the time, supports this motion of not fronting, he has not made a public appearance whereby he has had to really talk apart from his waving and clapping on his takeover on the pitch, he was bringing in more board members to divert away from himself also. Basically he is not self promoting on anything he has done so far. He has however taken over a loss making club, last account's show a yearly 4 million loss (despite the income from player sales that some bang on about as profit), he has stumped up 440,000 to buy the club and has to sort around a million a month for the clubs running balance. He has clearly directed funds towards development both on and off the field and has not cut out on easy or not so easy targets like the Community programme, Harefield Academy, Watford Ladies etc. Yes he has cut out the CEO post and other staff to protect the salary balance but that is a realistic change in the current climate to ensure long term stability which is what we would all want to secure the clubs future. We have loan players that would probably be out of our loan wage bracket, but were needed to ensure we stopped the rot, in all 7 players were promised and 13 to date have been signed or loaned. The Red Lion development is physically taking place, the new PA system is in and loud! the screens are being sorted and the new pitch ordered and corner development being prioritised. In all, the facts are clear the club is being run for the long term not the short term by the above actions, more deeper actions could be taken to cut back expenditure but have not (yet). Do we know where the money is coming from, clearly the club is not generating enough with incomes to be self suffcient, we also do not have a player book that will cover these growing debt's. However we are in a position whereby the clubs debt is nothing like the other clubs we share this division with, it is being handled and addressed and for that we need to thank LB, his backers and the board. We also need to be acceptable that this is the position and support the team and club!
Question, do we want a Ken Bates or Peter Risdale owner who talk out of their backsides and milk their clubs or do we want a owner that does not talk? Yes his 2nd non appearance is not good, yes his PR is rubbish, yes he is ill (MRI scans etc.), and maybe he does have a real problem with f2f interaction. He did not appoint himself as Chairman as he could have at the time, supports this motion of not fronting, he has not made a public appearance whereby he has had to really talk apart from his waving and clapping on his takeover on the pitch, he was bringing in more board members to divert away from himself also. Basically he is not self promoting on anything he has done so far. He has however taken over a loss making club, last account's show a yearly 4 million loss (despite the income from player sales that some bang on about as profit), he has stumped up 440,000 to buy the club and has to sort around a million a month for the clubs running balance. He has clearly directed funds towards development both on and off the field and has not cut out on easy or not so easy targets like the Community programme, Harefield Academy, Watford Ladies etc. Yes he has cut out the CEO post and other staff to protect the salary balance but that is a realistic change in the current climate to ensure long term stability which is what we would all want to secure the clubs future. We have loan players that would probably be out of our loan wage bracket, but were needed to ensure we stopped the rot, in all 7 players were promised and 13 to date have been signed or loaned. The Red Lion development is physically taking place, the new PA system is in and loud! the screens are being sorted and the new pitch ordered and corner development being prioritised. In all, the facts are clear the club is being run for the long term not the short term by the above actions, more deeper actions could be taken to cut back expenditure but have not (yet). Do we know where the money is coming from, clearly the club is not generating enough with incomes to be self suffcient, we also do not have a player book that will cover these growing debt's. However we are in a position whereby the clubs debt is nothing like the other clubs we share this division with, it is being handled and addressed and for that we need to thank LB, his backers and the board. We also need to be acceptable that this is the position and support the team and club! corbindallas

8:21am Wed 23 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

Ok, I'll ask the question from a different angle.

What's his motive to pump "so called millions" into a loss making club?
Ok, I'll ask the question from a different angle. What's his motive to pump "so called millions" into a loss making club? Jan Lohman

8:29am Wed 23 Nov 11

corbindallas says...

Jan that question would need to be asked to most club owners, not just Watford's. Love of the club, the challenge, something to do, hopefull that one day it will make money, the love and adoration from the thousand's of fans!!!! Ok the last is a jest but what answer do you want to hear? I am sure he would like to have a self financing club where he can draw a salary/profit from as all club owners would really like.
Jan that question would need to be asked to most club owners, not just Watford's. Love of the club, the challenge, something to do, hopefull that one day it will make money, the love and adoration from the thousand's of fans!!!! Ok the last is a jest but what answer do you want to hear? I am sure he would like to have a self financing club where he can draw a salary/profit from as all club owners would really like. corbindallas

8:54am Wed 23 Nov 11

hornets09 says...

The only possible reason for cancelling i can see is a time delaying tactic, for what reason im not sure. The date for the next so called forum has been pencilled in as early in the new year. This could be as far as March or April or later. I personally dont think its going to happen. He was absolutely fine on Saturday as i have a perfect view of him. If hes well enough to go to football im sure he can handle a nice warm studio.
The only possible reason for cancelling i can see is a time delaying tactic, for what reason im not sure. The date for the next so called forum has been pencilled in as early in the new year. This could be as far as March or April or later. I personally dont think its going to happen. He was absolutely fine on Saturday as i have a perfect view of him. If hes well enough to go to football im sure he can handle a nice warm studio. hornets09

9:06am Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

stevemag wrote:
Bonserout - your post is very funny it made me laugh . And yes, doyley is sh-t !
No Stevey, Bonserout's comment were very accurate and true!

But the truth hurts you sad lot of moaners, doesn't it?
[quote][p][bold]stevemag[/bold] wrote: Bonserout - your post is very funny it made me laugh . And yes, doyley is sh-t ![/p][/quote]No Stevey, Bonserout's comment were very accurate and true! But the truth hurts you sad lot of moaners, doesn't it? grahamfransen

9:08am Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Jan Lohman wrote:
He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC. The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic. By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?!
I quite like the picture of me!

Do not see the need to spend more precious money of mine on any photo shoot!
[quote][p][bold]Jan Lohman[/bold] wrote: He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC. The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic. By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?![/p][/quote]I quite like the picture of me! Do not see the need to spend more precious money of mine on any photo shoot! grahamfransen

9:13am Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

tonyevans22 wrote:
Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it. How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies. So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG..
Best comment on this thread!

Well said Tony.
[quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote: Bas is our chairman..He has funded players,and various topics,Red Lion etc,is going to get the pitch done as well,things are in progress..Now due to a small minority of whip lashing idiots he could quite easily pull the plug and then what happens? Bills don't get paid,pitch remains the same,Red lion falls down,Ground building work stops,Dyche then told to sell assets,then we disappear as we have struggled to attract anyone to this club with any real money that wants to spend it. How many clubs actually do fans forums? I only know of us..and with questions like "Who is the best joker,dresser,dancer in the team" I could not give a hoot,as long as Bas is putting his money in,funding projects and we see progress then I don't care if he never speaks.Your not going to get many answers anyway kiddies. So leave the man alone,because apart from not turning up twice because of illness he has done NOTHING WRONG..[/p][/quote]Best comment on this thread! Well said Tony. grahamfransen

9:29am Wed 23 Nov 11

endean1 says...

Yep I have to agree with all the above, except Fransens comments.
Bassini is a asset stripper and probaly not very good at that, if the "fit and proper person" rules were to look at him properly he would be of the scale!!!

right now to happier matters,I ran into Gav Massey at the gym in Yeovil yesterday, what a charming young man he is and a total credit to WFC.
I asked him what he thought of the Beatie loan and Garner signing,and he just smiled! the true diplomat.

He said that he will probaly stay for another month as he will get playing time there but wants to go home.
-if more footballers were like him the game would be seen in an improved light, top guy.
Yep I have to agree with all the above, except Fransens comments. Bassini is a asset stripper and probaly not very good at that, if the "fit and proper person" rules were to look at him properly he would be of the scale!!! right now to happier matters,I ran into Gav Massey at the gym in Yeovil yesterday, what a charming young man he is and a total credit to WFC. I asked him what he thought of the Beatie loan and Garner signing,and he just smiled! the true diplomat. He said that he will probaly stay for another month as he will get playing time there but wants to go home. -if more footballers were like him the game would be seen in an improved light, top guy. endean1

9:35am Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

corbindallas wrote:
Question, do we want a Ken Bates or Peter Risdale owner who talk out of their backsides and milk their clubs or do we want a owner that does not talk? Yes his 2nd non appearance is not good, yes his PR is rubbish, yes he is ill (MRI scans etc.), and maybe he does have a real problem with f2f interaction. He did not appoint himself as Chairman as he could have at the time, supports this motion of not fronting, he has not made a public appearance whereby he has had to really talk apart from his waving and clapping on his takeover on the pitch, he was bringing in more board members to divert away from himself also. Basically he is not self promoting on anything he has done so far. He has however taken over a loss making club, last account's show a yearly 4 million loss (despite the income from player sales that some bang on about as profit), he has stumped up 440,000 to buy the club and has to sort around a million a month for the clubs running balance. He has clearly directed funds towards development both on and off the field and has not cut out on easy or not so easy targets like the Community programme, Harefield Academy, Watford Ladies etc. Yes he has cut out the CEO post and other staff to protect the salary balance but that is a realistic change in the current climate to ensure long term stability which is what we would all want to secure the clubs future. We have loan players that would probably be out of our loan wage bracket, but were needed to ensure we stopped the rot, in all 7 players were promised and 13 to date have been signed or loaned. The Red Lion development is physically taking place, the new PA system is in and loud! the screens are being sorted and the new pitch ordered and corner development being prioritised. In all, the facts are clear the club is being run for the long term not the short term by the above actions, more deeper actions could be taken to cut back expenditure but have not (yet). Do we know where the money is coming from, clearly the club is not generating enough with incomes to be self suffcient, we also do not have a player book that will cover these growing debt's. However we are in a position whereby the clubs debt is nothing like the other clubs we share this division with, it is being handled and addressed and for that we need to thank LB, his backers and the board. We also need to be acceptable that this is the position and support the team and club!
Very sensible post, as usual, corbindallas.

But just to clarify a few poiints, as many people seem to think I am in fact Bas!

Okay then, I will open up to you!

I get my money from Mum and Dad because they are a VERY wealthy family!

I am not very good at PR, and I sometimes act on a whim, but I always have Mum and Dad to bale me out, as they have done in the past.

I love WFC, it is my new passion in life, and I really want it to succeed!

However, I am not very good in face to face confrontations, and I do detect some hatred towards me on this forum.

I have appointed good front men in Graham, Stuart and David, and they really help me, beacuse they know their football stuff, whereas I am still learning.

We had a bit of a tiff last week, beacause Graham criticised me on BBC radio, but we have made up for the sake of WFC, who we both love dearly.

I had to sack Julian, however, because he was not very good as my CEO, and he cost us over £1M with the Don Cowie travesty!

GT, ST, DF and I all agreed to appoint SD as our manager, and we allowed him to select his own coaching, medical, and backroom staff.

He asked me for seven new players at the start of the season. Things did not go as well as expected, so we agreed on a further six, making THIRTEEN in total.

I have also started to renovate the Red Lion for you fans. I have put in a new PA system, which you all clamoured for, and I financially assisted the WFC ladies when no else wanted to.

Work will shortly be commencing on the new screens, and the SW corner, to bring it to fruition.

We will have a brand new Desso pitch for next season. It would have been nice to get it in this year, but there was not enough time.

Therefore, I negotiated a new one year deal with Saracens which has benefitted us to the tune of nearly a million pounds.

The eye sore, which was the East Stand, is another top priority, and we will be doing our best to resurrect that side of the ground within two years.

In the meantime, I am keeping the club afloat with the family money. I paid £440K to purchase the club.

I am paying off the money we owe to LA and DF over the agreed period, and I also pump in money every month to make sure that every member of staff is paid in full, and that all of our bills are paid on time.

I am doing an awful lot for you fans, and our beloved club. I am not very good at PR, as I have said, but please give me some more time, and you will see that I only have good intentions for WFC, and will not be running away as so many of you claim!

Love to you all,
Bas.
[quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: Question, do we want a Ken Bates or Peter Risdale owner who talk out of their backsides and milk their clubs or do we want a owner that does not talk? Yes his 2nd non appearance is not good, yes his PR is rubbish, yes he is ill (MRI scans etc.), and maybe he does have a real problem with f2f interaction. He did not appoint himself as Chairman as he could have at the time, supports this motion of not fronting, he has not made a public appearance whereby he has had to really talk apart from his waving and clapping on his takeover on the pitch, he was bringing in more board members to divert away from himself also. Basically he is not self promoting on anything he has done so far. He has however taken over a loss making club, last account's show a yearly 4 million loss (despite the income from player sales that some bang on about as profit), he has stumped up 440,000 to buy the club and has to sort around a million a month for the clubs running balance. He has clearly directed funds towards development both on and off the field and has not cut out on easy or not so easy targets like the Community programme, Harefield Academy, Watford Ladies etc. Yes he has cut out the CEO post and other staff to protect the salary balance but that is a realistic change in the current climate to ensure long term stability which is what we would all want to secure the clubs future. We have loan players that would probably be out of our loan wage bracket, but were needed to ensure we stopped the rot, in all 7 players were promised and 13 to date have been signed or loaned. The Red Lion development is physically taking place, the new PA system is in and loud! the screens are being sorted and the new pitch ordered and corner development being prioritised. In all, the facts are clear the club is being run for the long term not the short term by the above actions, more deeper actions could be taken to cut back expenditure but have not (yet). Do we know where the money is coming from, clearly the club is not generating enough with incomes to be self suffcient, we also do not have a player book that will cover these growing debt's. However we are in a position whereby the clubs debt is nothing like the other clubs we share this division with, it is being handled and addressed and for that we need to thank LB, his backers and the board. We also need to be acceptable that this is the position and support the team and club![/p][/quote]Very sensible post, as usual, corbindallas. But just to clarify a few poiints, as many people seem to think I am in fact Bas! Okay then, I will open up to you! I get my money from Mum and Dad because they are a VERY wealthy family! I am not very good at PR, and I sometimes act on a whim, but I always have Mum and Dad to bale me out, as they have done in the past. I love WFC, it is my new passion in life, and I really want it to succeed! However, I am not very good in face to face confrontations, and I do detect some hatred towards me on this forum. I have appointed good front men in Graham, Stuart and David, and they really help me, beacuse they know their football stuff, whereas I am still learning. We had a bit of a tiff last week, beacause Graham criticised me on BBC radio, but we have made up for the sake of WFC, who we both love dearly. I had to sack Julian, however, because he was not very good as my CEO, and he cost us over £1M with the Don Cowie travesty! GT, ST, DF and I all agreed to appoint SD as our manager, and we allowed him to select his own coaching, medical, and backroom staff. He asked me for seven new players at the start of the season. Things did not go as well as expected, so we agreed on a further six, making THIRTEEN in total. I have also started to renovate the Red Lion for you fans. I have put in a new PA system, which you all clamoured for, and I financially assisted the WFC ladies when no else wanted to. Work will shortly be commencing on the new screens, and the SW corner, to bring it to fruition. We will have a brand new Desso pitch for next season. It would have been nice to get it in this year, but there was not enough time. Therefore, I negotiated a new one year deal with Saracens which has benefitted us to the tune of nearly a million pounds. The eye sore, which was the East Stand, is another top priority, and we will be doing our best to resurrect that side of the ground within two years. In the meantime, I am keeping the club afloat with the family money. I paid £440K to purchase the club. I am paying off the money we owe to LA and DF over the agreed period, and I also pump in money every month to make sure that every member of staff is paid in full, and that all of our bills are paid on time. I am doing an awful lot for you fans, and our beloved club. I am not very good at PR, as I have said, but please give me some more time, and you will see that I only have good intentions for WFC, and will not be running away as so many of you claim! Love to you all, Bas. grahamfransen

10:11am Wed 23 Nov 11

hollywood101 says...

Ok, so if you really are Bassini, give me a call on 07904161962......we'
ve spoken before, so you'll know who i am when we talk.....!
Ok, so if you really are Bassini, give me a call on 07904161962......we' ve spoken before, so you'll know who i am when we talk.....! hollywood101

10:11am Wed 23 Nov 11

BassZZZZZini says...

Fans are the largest stakeholders long-term in a football club. Some of those who watch the team week-in week-out were standing on the Vic's terraces before Bassini was even born. They will be there when he goes. In the time that he is in the hot seat, there is a reasonable expectation that the owner has an open dialogue with the fans. This is "Public Relations 101".

Since coming onboard, he has dodged answering anything meaningful in an open letter from the Watford Observer, and blown out two chances, at very short notice, for the fans to ask him questions in open forum. He behaved impetulantly, impulsively and indeed childishly when a man who is beloved by both the fans of Watford F.C. and indeed the town itself made a few comments about him at one of the forums he has missed due to "ill health".

I have no reason to doubt he is genuinely ill. I have no doubt he talks to fans at games. I DO, however, have some doubts that his intentions are entirely honourable but this is because he hasn't actually sat down an TALKED TO US ALL in open forum or ever answered a straight question in print.

Until this has been put right, and he has satisfied the fans/Watford Observer by answering questions put to him, I will reserve the right to doubt him personally and professionally, and question his motives for the future both short and long term for the club I love.
Fans are the largest stakeholders long-term in a football club. Some of those who watch the team week-in week-out were standing on the Vic's terraces before Bassini was even born. They will be there when he goes. In the time that he is in the hot seat, there is a reasonable expectation that the owner has an open dialogue with the fans. This is "Public Relations 101". Since coming onboard, he has dodged answering anything meaningful in an open letter from the Watford Observer, and blown out two chances, at very short notice, for the fans to ask him questions in open forum. He behaved impetulantly, impulsively and indeed childishly when a man who is beloved by both the fans of Watford F.C. and indeed the town itself made a few comments about him at one of the forums he has missed due to "ill health". I have no reason to doubt he is genuinely ill. I have no doubt he talks to fans at games. I DO, however, have some doubts that his intentions are entirely honourable but this is because he hasn't actually sat down an TALKED TO US ALL in open forum or ever answered a straight question in print. Until this has been put right, and he has satisfied the fans/Watford Observer by answering questions put to him, I will reserve the right to doubt him personally and professionally, and question his motives for the future both short and long term for the club I love. BassZZZZZini

10:15am Wed 23 Nov 11

Casterbridge says...

GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!”

That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club?

How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are.

That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told.

As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not?
GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!” That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club? How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are. That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told. As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not? Casterbridge

10:18am Wed 23 Nov 11

hollywood101 says...

Casterbridge wrote:
GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!”

That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club?

How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are.

That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told.

As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not?
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]Casterbridge[/bold] wrote: GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!” That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club? How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are. That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told. As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not?[/p][/quote]Well said. hollywood101

10:51am Wed 23 Nov 11

CreteJoe says...

To me his background does sound a bit dodge however it is easy to be ill and perhaps to the casual onlooker appear fine. I’m not going to delineate his condition or attempt to guess it just to say a rogue virus can be very debilitating and would make one not want to have the stress of quick thinking under the onslaught of aggressive questioning. I agree that as an interim questions emailed to the W.O and the answers published would show intent. I do think that if I were him and read the vitriol on this site I’d have sunk the club by now and got any money I could from asset stripping, that is of course unless I actually had good intentions.
To me his background does sound a bit dodge however it is easy to be ill and perhaps to the casual onlooker appear fine. I’m not going to delineate his condition or attempt to guess it just to say a rogue virus can be very debilitating and would make one not want to have the stress of quick thinking under the onslaught of aggressive questioning. I agree that as an interim questions emailed to the W.O and the answers published would show intent. I do think that if I were him and read the vitriol on this site I’d have sunk the club by now and got any money I could from asset stripping, that is of course unless I actually had good intentions. CreteJoe

11:14am Wed 23 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

No back bone, eh Mr Jellyfish!
No back bone, eh Mr Jellyfish! Jan Lohman

11:47am Wed 23 Nov 11

Hornet Cornet says...

SOMEONE GO TO BENT BAZ'S HOUSE and kindly kick him up up the bum. He's go no respect for our club and treats the supporters like worthless pieces of pooh.

BENT BAZ OUT, BENT BAZ OUT
SOMEONE GO TO BENT BAZ'S HOUSE and kindly kick him up up the bum. He's go no respect for our club and treats the supporters like worthless pieces of pooh. BENT BAZ OUT, BENT BAZ OUT Hornet Cornet

11:51am Wed 23 Nov 11

Casterbridge says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
SOMEONE GO TO BENT BAZ'S HOUSE and kindly kick him up up the bum. He's go no respect for our club and treats the supporters like worthless pieces of pooh. BENT BAZ OUT, BENT BAZ OUT
Be careful what you wish for: he has the future of his club in his hands!
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: SOMEONE GO TO BENT BAZ'S HOUSE and kindly kick him up up the bum. He's go no respect for our club and treats the supporters like worthless pieces of pooh. BENT BAZ OUT, BENT BAZ OUT[/p][/quote]Be careful what you wish for: he has the future of his club in his hands! Casterbridge

12:18pm Wed 23 Nov 11

AndyDC says...

Surely to see what a businessman can and will do in the present and future is to look at what they've done and accomplished in the past?

In the past it seems that Bassini has been involved in a string of businesses all of which have been dissolved. Then declared bankcrupt only 4 years ago which resulted in a name change.

Now he's involved in WFC and won't disclosure any sources of major financial backing, which doesn't give anyone peace of mind. Where does the investment come from? How much investment will be forth-coming and with what frequency? What share of profits do the investors expect to receive? How much say in the day-to-day business decisions do the investors have, if any?

Simply stating "get behind LB and what he is doing for WFC" is ignoring the fundemental questions that every WFC supporter not only expects to hear but is entitled to hear.
Surely to see what a businessman can and will do in the present and future is to look at what they've done and accomplished in the past? In the past it seems that Bassini has been involved in a string of businesses all of which have been dissolved. Then declared bankcrupt only 4 years ago which resulted in a name change. Now he's involved in WFC and won't disclosure any sources of major financial backing, which doesn't give anyone peace of mind. Where does the investment come from? How much investment will be forth-coming and with what frequency? What share of profits do the investors expect to receive? How much say in the day-to-day business decisions do the investors have, if any? Simply stating "get behind LB and what he is doing for WFC" is ignoring the fundemental questions that every WFC supporter not only expects to hear but is entitled to hear. AndyDC

12:37pm Wed 23 Nov 11

BassZZZZZini says...

AndyDC wrote:
Surely to see what a businessman can and will do in the present and future is to look at what they've done and accomplished in the past?

In the past it seems that Bassini has been involved in a string of businesses all of which have been dissolved. Then declared bankcrupt only 4 years ago which resulted in a name change.

Now he's involved in WFC and won't disclosure any sources of major financial backing, which doesn't give anyone peace of mind. Where does the investment come from? How much investment will be forth-coming and with what frequency? What share of profits do the investors expect to receive? How much say in the day-to-day business decisions do the investors have, if any?

Simply stating "get behind LB and what he is doing for WFC" is ignoring the fundemental questions that every WFC supporter not only expects to hear but is entitled to hear.
Quite so. And dodging every opportunity to be open with fans and put the record straight, and using childish methods of communication when aggrieved by a third party is hardly going to endear you to the fans or install confidence in your tenure.
[quote][p][bold]AndyDC[/bold] wrote: Surely to see what a businessman can and will do in the present and future is to look at what they've done and accomplished in the past? In the past it seems that Bassini has been involved in a string of businesses all of which have been dissolved. Then declared bankcrupt only 4 years ago which resulted in a name change. Now he's involved in WFC and won't disclosure any sources of major financial backing, which doesn't give anyone peace of mind. Where does the investment come from? How much investment will be forth-coming and with what frequency? What share of profits do the investors expect to receive? How much say in the day-to-day business decisions do the investors have, if any? Simply stating "get behind LB and what he is doing for WFC" is ignoring the fundemental questions that every WFC supporter not only expects to hear but is entitled to hear.[/p][/quote]Quite so. And dodging every opportunity to be open with fans and put the record straight, and using childish methods of communication when aggrieved by a third party is hardly going to endear you to the fans or install confidence in your tenure. BassZZZZZini

12:45pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Steve C94 says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Alex Hillcroft wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?
Are you serious? How touching!
How much do you earn?

I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier!

If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas?

He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!
100% owner of a private limited company?
NO HE IS NOT!!
I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them.
And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him.
Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests.
And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible?
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alex Hillcroft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? How touching![/p][/quote]How much do you earn? I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier! If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas? He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!![/p][/quote]100% owner of a private limited company? NO HE IS NOT!! I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them. And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him. Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests. And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible? Steve C94

12:49pm Wed 23 Nov 11

BassZZZZZini says...

Steve C94 wrote:
grahamfransen wrote:
Alex Hillcroft wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?
Are you serious? How touching!
How much do you earn?

I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier!

If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas?

He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!
100% owner of a private limited company?
NO HE IS NOT!!
I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them.
And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him.
Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests.
And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible?
Hear Hear!
[quote][p][bold]Steve C94[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alex Hillcroft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? How touching![/p][/quote]How much do you earn? I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier! If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas? He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!![/p][/quote]100% owner of a private limited company? NO HE IS NOT!! I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them. And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him. Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests. And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible?[/p][/quote]Hear Hear! BassZZZZZini

12:56pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Casterbridge wrote:
GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!” That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club? How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are. That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told. As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not?
I only have a financial interest in one football league club.

I satisfied the inquisition of the Football League several months ago, before I took over WFC.

On my private limited company accounts at WFC, I only have to declare that the money transferred to WFC is from personal funds.

This is quite acceptable, and normal practice in private limited companies, with an owner who owns one hundred per cent of the shareholding.

Please let me reassure you that there are plenty of funds available within the family fortune to safeguard WFC to a very successful future.

I, like you, have the best interests of the club in my heart. I only ask for a little more time to see my plans come to fruition.

Action speaks louder than words, as the proverb goes, and I think you can see that my actions have been many, and very active and positive in the past six months.

Love to you all.

Bas.
[quote][p][bold]Casterbridge[/bold] wrote: GF: "He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!” That would generally be the case, but isn't there a Football League rule that prohibits anyone from having a financial interest in more than one club? How can this be enforced unless those with such an interest are identified? If LB is merely a front man, then his actions in clamming up may be directed by the principals, whoever they are. That would also explain the nominations of board members who would not need to understand what they were voting for or why, just to do as they were told. As others have said, all the questions are already on the table. Why cannot they be addressed through a club statement or a WO interview, either to provide an answer or to explain why not?[/p][/quote]I only have a financial interest in one football league club. I satisfied the inquisition of the Football League several months ago, before I took over WFC. On my private limited company accounts at WFC, I only have to declare that the money transferred to WFC is from personal funds. This is quite acceptable, and normal practice in private limited companies, with an owner who owns one hundred per cent of the shareholding. Please let me reassure you that there are plenty of funds available within the family fortune to safeguard WFC to a very successful future. I, like you, have the best interests of the club in my heart. I only ask for a little more time to see my plans come to fruition. Action speaks louder than words, as the proverb goes, and I think you can see that my actions have been many, and very active and positive in the past six months. Love to you all. Bas. grahamfransen

1:07pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Steve C94 wrote:
grahamfransen wrote:
Alex Hillcroft wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.
I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?
Are you serious? How touching!
How much do you earn? I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier! If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas? He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!!
100% owner of a private limited company? NO HE IS NOT!! I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them. And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him. Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests. And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible?
The compulsory purchase order for the shareholding is well under way.

There have been a few people, like yourself, who have refused to surrender their share certificates.

Because of this, the inevitable delayed and slow payment to the other supporters who have surrendered their stock, has become sadly inevitable.

I have every right in company law to proceed with my one hundred per cent purchase of the WFC shareholding. I am doing nothing illegal or underhand, I can assure you of that.

I hope you can see this, to avoid payment to all the other fans who have queried this.

Until this matter is finally resolved, the payments will be delayed.

Unfortunately you are only protracting the inevitable one per cent takeover, and I would humbly suggest that you respond in a favourable manner, so that we can help your fellow fans financially.

Love to you all.

Bas.
[quote][p][bold]Steve C94[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alex Hillcroft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: TBH I feel like sh*t & have done for some weeks now so if he's not well he's not well. I felt alright on Sat esp after 3 points but by Sun I was feeling rough again. It's a weird bug this. Give the bloke a Christmas break. Lay off him & support the team.[/p][/quote]I dom't think he is trying to con an illness as such because the problems he had before the Fans forum sounded quite serious but people will question the fact he doesn't seem able to even answer a few questions for an hour or so via telephone etc? Maybe its stress related and really he just cannot cope with facing a set of people he doesn't know?[/p][/quote]Are you serious? How touching![/p][/quote]How much do you earn? I see you ducked all my questions about your personal finances earlier! If you are reluctant to reveal all, then why should Bas? He is the one hundred per cent owner of a private limited company, not a PLC, and you have no right to know where he gets his dosh from!![/p][/quote]100% owner of a private limited company? NO HE IS NOT!! I have so far refused to sell my shares to him and, as yet, I have not received the promised communication confiming that he has compulsorily purchased my shares, let alone recieved any payment from them. And, looking at the posts on other forums, it appears that he he hasn't yet paid for the shares that other shareholders have agreed to sell to him. Until I see evidence to the contrary ie PAYMENT FOR MY SHARES, I will not accept that he is the 100% owner of a private limited company, and I will continue to believe that he is the serial failed businessman that all the previous evidence still suggests. And just how long will Graham Fransen and others carry on defending the indefensible?[/p][/quote]The compulsory purchase order for the shareholding is well under way. There have been a few people, like yourself, who have refused to surrender their share certificates. Because of this, the inevitable delayed and slow payment to the other supporters who have surrendered their stock, has become sadly inevitable. I have every right in company law to proceed with my one hundred per cent purchase of the WFC shareholding. I am doing nothing illegal or underhand, I can assure you of that. I hope you can see this, to avoid payment to all the other fans who have queried this. Until this matter is finally resolved, the payments will be delayed. Unfortunately you are only protracting the inevitable one per cent takeover, and I would humbly suggest that you respond in a favourable manner, so that we can help your fellow fans financially. Love to you all. Bas. grahamfransen

1:39pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got?

Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital.


Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind?
Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got? Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital. Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind? strummerjoe

2:25pm Wed 23 Nov 11

garston tony says...

LB must be aware that even if for absolutely genuine reasons his pulling out of the forum doesnt look good even to those who are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt/unwilling to condemn him for his past.

Someone early on in the postings asked why questions couldnt be put to him 'off air' and his answers given on the WFC website and I concur with this.

I would therefore ask the WO and 3CR to approach him and ask him to answer questions that are submitted by WFC supporters and his responses could either be recorded at his home and broadcasted and/or posted on the WO and WFC websites. He wouldnt have to leave the comfort of his own house.

If he refuses then even for me doubt would be entering my mind.

I do have to say however for those so extremely concerned about where the money is coming from, if you think the money isnt his and he is just a front man why would the real money man not wish to be known himself (and surely someone like GT would have inklings of a third party being involved) or if you think the source is suspect why dont you go to the police with your suspicions?
LB must be aware that even if for absolutely genuine reasons his pulling out of the forum doesnt look good even to those who are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt/unwilling to condemn him for his past. Someone early on in the postings asked why questions couldnt be put to him 'off air' and his answers given on the WFC website and I concur with this. I would therefore ask the WO and 3CR to approach him and ask him to answer questions that are submitted by WFC supporters and his responses could either be recorded at his home and broadcasted and/or posted on the WO and WFC websites. He wouldnt have to leave the comfort of his own house. If he refuses then even for me doubt would be entering my mind. I do have to say however for those so extremely concerned about where the money is coming from, if you think the money isnt his and he is just a front man why would the real money man not wish to be known himself (and surely someone like GT would have inklings of a third party being involved) or if you think the source is suspect why dont you go to the police with your suspicions? garston tony

2:40pm Wed 23 Nov 11

CreteJoe says...

strummerjoe wrote:
Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got?

Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital.


Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind?
I think you are a bit optimistic I would expect the club to finish and be asset stripped very quickly
[quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got? Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital. Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind?[/p][/quote]I think you are a bit optimistic I would expect the club to finish and be asset stripped very quickly CreteJoe

3:14pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Oracledave says...

As ever in these type of debates there is a thread of logic underpinning both views.

On the negative side :

- it is undoubtedly true that communications could be a whole lot better and indeed it is difficult to see a good reason why they are not !

- fans are surely entitled to ask questions regarding funding etc ( I think LB said as much in his opening WO statement).

On the positive side ;

- funding continues for purchases and loans plus running costs,

- there are early indications that ground work is commencing.

So when will the mighty battle between these opposing views be resolved ?
Well, if there is real progress on development ( Red Lion opens, SW corner development starts ) then the demand for explanation of funding sources whilst still of interest becomes less critical.

This then begs the question - when will that be. Well at the forum GT said that tenders for the SW corner were undergoing some sort of value analysis. This surely suggests that we should see contracts placed by Feb/Mar 2012 ?

That is when I will make my mind up !
As ever in these type of debates there is a thread of logic underpinning both views. On the negative side : - it is undoubtedly true that communications could be a whole lot better and indeed it is difficult to see a good reason why they are not ! - fans are surely entitled to ask questions regarding funding etc ( I think LB said as much in his opening WO statement). On the positive side ; - funding continues for purchases and loans plus running costs, - there are early indications that ground work is commencing. So when will the mighty battle between these opposing views be resolved ? Well, if there is real progress on development ( Red Lion opens, SW corner development starts ) then the demand for explanation of funding sources whilst still of interest becomes less critical. This then begs the question - when will that be. Well at the forum GT said that tenders for the SW corner were undergoing some sort of value analysis. This surely suggests that we should see contracts placed by Feb/Mar 2012 ? That is when I will make my mind up ! Oracledave

3:23pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Jan Lohman wrote: He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC. The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic. By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?!
I quite like the picture of me! Do not see the need to spend more precious money of mine on any photo shoot!
The funny thing is - this is the best picture of Bas!!??!!

As the saying goes 'you cant polish turd'. No matter how you look at Bas - a turd is a turd.

No photoshoot is EVER going to change that. lol
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan Lohman[/bold] wrote: He's taking the utter wee out of you, me and all other supporters of WFC. The only keel we'll be resembling is that of the Titanic. By the way Wobby, can you not get another picture of this whimp of a man, as every time I look at the sports pages, I see his ugly face grinning at me, like he's just passed wind?![/p][/quote]I quite like the picture of me! Do not see the need to spend more precious money of mine on any photo shoot![/p][/quote]The funny thing is - this is the best picture of Bas!!??!! As the saying goes 'you cant polish turd'. No matter how you look at Bas - a turd is a turd. No photoshoot is EVER going to change that. lol Cleverhornet

3:47pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what? We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum! As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!! And neither should you load of moaning muppets!! Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!! Get real, you guys!!
What is really funny – is if you read Bassinis’s comments at the start of the thread – he does not give a **** about the supporters under the name Grahamfransen.

When he finally admits that’s GF is infact Bassini – suddenly, he’s all professional.

The problem I have is – what’s he doing up. Is he not ill?

Seems to me that this **** idiot is on the internet everyday slagging off all the real fans and driving his new Bentley.
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, Bas has cried off tonight. So what? We know that PR is not his speciality, but he is also feeling ill at present, a fact not made any better by the moronic comments on this forum! As long as he keeps pumping the money into dear old WFC, I could not care less!! And neither should you load of moaning muppets!! Be grateful to our financial saviour, as I do not see ANYONE else on the horizon coming to our rescue!! Get real, you guys!![/p][/quote]What is really funny – is if you read Bassinis’s comments at the start of the thread – he does not give a **** about the supporters under the name Grahamfransen. When he finally admits that’s GF is infact Bassini – suddenly, he’s all professional. The problem I have is – what’s he doing up. Is he not ill? Seems to me that this **** idiot is on the internet everyday slagging off all the real fans and driving his new Bentley. Cleverhornet

3:48pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

lutondown wrote:
strummerjoe wrote: Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got? Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital. Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind?
Utter tosh from Boofera buddy
Come on then - what happens if Baz decides he's had enough? I'm no mate of Fransen's by the way, the guy is a plonker. A sensible answer would be appreciated. Who will come in to fund £3-4m a year of losses?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Obviously, I wouldn't, but you mongrels who are saying 'Baz Out' should think a little before putting finger to keyboard. Bill kenwright can't find a buyer for Everton, what hope have we got? Bassini ceases funding the club. What then? First, any saleable assets get sold. That keeps us going for a year and a half. In the meantime we are relegated to League One. Bassini defaults on his payments to Ashcroft. Ashcroft takes possession of the Vic and leases it back to the club. Harefield closes cos we can't afford it. Relegation to League 2. can't make the rent payments on 5,000 crowds. Ashcroft decides to put the club out of its misery and sells the Vic to the hospital. Or maybe you moaners have a happier outcome in mind?[/p][/quote]Utter tosh from Boofera buddy[/p][/quote]Come on then - what happens if Baz decides he's had enough? I'm no mate of Fransen's by the way, the guy is a plonker. A sensible answer would be appreciated. Who will come in to fund £3-4m a year of losses? strummerjoe

3:50pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Oracledave wrote:
As ever in these type of debates there is a thread of logic underpinning both views. On the negative side : - it is undoubtedly true that communications could be a whole lot better and indeed it is difficult to see a good reason why they are not ! - fans are surely entitled to ask questions regarding funding etc ( I think LB said as much in his opening WO statement). On the positive side ; - funding continues for purchases and loans plus running costs, - there are early indications that ground work is commencing. So when will the mighty battle between these opposing views be resolved ? Well, if there is real progress on development ( Red Lion opens, SW corner development starts ) then the demand for explanation of funding sources whilst still of interest becomes less critical. This then begs the question - when will that be. Well at the forum GT said that tenders for the SW corner were undergoing some sort of value analysis. This surely suggests that we should see contracts placed by Feb/Mar 2012 ? That is when I will make my mind up !
This is why I have delayed my comments until the New Year.

Things will look so much better, as I stated on one of my earlier posts.

But I must admit, I am getting more and more annoyed with all of these negative comments and postings!

If they continue, I might act on another of my well known "whims" and pull my money out after all!

I am the only one prepared to put my money where my mouth is, but you continue to doubt me!

Where will it all end, if I decide to withdraw my funding for WFC?

It needs my monthly input just to cover salaries, and to pay all of the bills.

Administration will loom very large, if you negative moaners push me too far!

Love, Bas.
[quote][p][bold]Oracledave[/bold] wrote: As ever in these type of debates there is a thread of logic underpinning both views. On the negative side : - it is undoubtedly true that communications could be a whole lot better and indeed it is difficult to see a good reason why they are not ! - fans are surely entitled to ask questions regarding funding etc ( I think LB said as much in his opening WO statement). On the positive side ; - funding continues for purchases and loans plus running costs, - there are early indications that ground work is commencing. So when will the mighty battle between these opposing views be resolved ? Well, if there is real progress on development ( Red Lion opens, SW corner development starts ) then the demand for explanation of funding sources whilst still of interest becomes less critical. This then begs the question - when will that be. Well at the forum GT said that tenders for the SW corner were undergoing some sort of value analysis. This surely suggests that we should see contracts placed by Feb/Mar 2012 ? That is when I will make my mind up ![/p][/quote]This is why I have delayed my comments until the New Year. Things will look so much better, as I stated on one of my earlier posts. But I must admit, I am getting more and more annoyed with all of these negative comments and postings! If they continue, I might act on another of my well known "whims" and pull my money out after all! I am the only one prepared to put my money where my mouth is, but you continue to doubt me! Where will it all end, if I decide to withdraw my funding for WFC? It needs my monthly input just to cover salaries, and to pay all of the bills. Administration will loom very large, if you negative moaners push me too far! Love, Bas. grahamfransen

3:55pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

Bas. You better ask your mum if thats okay to pull out.
Bas. You better ask your mum if thats okay to pull out. Cleverhornet

4:06pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Cleverhornet wrote:
Bas. You better ask your mum if thats okay to pull out.
When I read this comment, I had to phone my old friend Cliff.

He was so shocked he nearly choked on his prawn sandwiches and cocktails!

He told me not to worry, as the Upper Rous is so silent these days, they do not like to be woken up to get embroiled in any demo.

My other good friend, welovebas, has informed that there will not be any demo anyway!

I was a little apprehensive when I heard about the possible demo at the Peterboro game.

But then my two good friends informed me that it only involved Luton, Buckler and EDL, and that it would come to nothing!

Seems they were right, and I sleep much more easily now in the knowledge that there will never be a demo against me.

In truth, despite all of the banter on this forum, everyone still loves me, and everyone knows that I am pumping in an awful lot of money to save our beloved WFC, who we all love to death.

That is excepting Luton, Buckler and EDL, of course, but we do not need to lose any sleep over any of those three losers, do we?

Love, Bas.
[quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: Bas. You better ask your mum if thats okay to pull out.[/p][/quote]When I read this comment, I had to phone my old friend Cliff. He was so shocked he nearly choked on his prawn sandwiches and cocktails! He told me not to worry, as the Upper Rous is so silent these days, they do not like to be woken up to get embroiled in any demo. My other good friend, welovebas, has informed that there will not be any demo anyway! I was a little apprehensive when I heard about the possible demo at the Peterboro game. But then my two good friends informed me that it only involved Luton, Buckler and EDL, and that it would come to nothing! Seems they were right, and I sleep much more easily now in the knowledge that there will never be a demo against me. In truth, despite all of the banter on this forum, everyone still loves me, and everyone knows that I am pumping in an awful lot of money to save our beloved WFC, who we all love to death. That is excepting Luton, Buckler and EDL, of course, but we do not need to lose any sleep over any of those three losers, do we? Love, Bas. grahamfransen

4:28pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

Question Baz...

Why supposedly "invest" so heavily on the none playing side?

It's not as if the Red Lion will get us promoted now, is it?
Question Baz... Why supposedly "invest" so heavily on the none playing side? It's not as if the Red Lion will get us promoted now, is it? Jan Lohman

4:31pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

Bas – WHAT WAS THAT all about!!

Listen, as far as most people and fans are concerned, you may front running WFC when in reality you couldn’t even run a KFC!!

You think driving a flash car, being disrespectful and talking down to fans like the way you do is all….. OKAY. The truth is – its not.

Now that you have admitted publicly that Grahamfransen is actually Basinni – all you need to do is look back at all the GF’s comments on this and previous posts to see how disrespectfully you spoke to the Watford fans and you start getting a picture of who and what Bassini is.

This is not a businessman – this is a child playing a businessman.

And you aren’t pulling out of anything – your backers would not allow this.
Bas – WHAT WAS THAT all about!! Listen, as far as most people and fans are concerned, you may front running WFC when in reality you couldn’t even run a KFC!! You think driving a flash car, being disrespectful and talking down to fans like the way you do is all….. OKAY. The truth is – its not. Now that you have admitted publicly that Grahamfransen is actually Basinni – all you need to do is look back at all the GF’s comments on this and previous posts to see how disrespectfully you spoke to the Watford fans and you start getting a picture of who and what Bassini is. This is not a businessman – this is a child playing a businessman. And you aren’t pulling out of anything – your backers would not allow this. Cleverhornet

4:38pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club.

My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club.

I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match.

But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them!

I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC.

However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum!

If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in!
Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club. My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club. I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match. But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them! I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC. However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum! If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in! grahamfransen

4:42pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Cleverhornet wrote:
Bas – WHAT WAS THAT all about!! Listen, as far as most people and fans are concerned, you may front running WFC when in reality you couldn’t even run a KFC!! You think driving a flash car, being disrespectful and talking down to fans like the way you do is all….. OKAY. The truth is – its not. Now that you have admitted publicly that Grahamfransen is actually Basinni – all you need to do is look back at all the GF’s comments on this and previous posts to see how disrespectfully you spoke to the Watford fans and you start getting a picture of who and what Bassini is. This is not a businessman – this is a child playing a businessman. And you aren’t pulling out of anything – your backers would not allow this.
How easily some simple folk are taken in!!

I will speak to Vladimir again, because I need to make some arrangements!
[quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: Bas – WHAT WAS THAT all about!! Listen, as far as most people and fans are concerned, you may front running WFC when in reality you couldn’t even run a KFC!! You think driving a flash car, being disrespectful and talking down to fans like the way you do is all….. OKAY. The truth is – its not. Now that you have admitted publicly that Grahamfransen is actually Basinni – all you need to do is look back at all the GF’s comments on this and previous posts to see how disrespectfully you spoke to the Watford fans and you start getting a picture of who and what Bassini is. This is not a businessman – this is a child playing a businessman. And you aren’t pulling out of anything – your backers would not allow this.[/p][/quote]How easily some simple folk are taken in!! I will speak to Vladimir again, because I need to make some arrangements! grahamfransen

4:42pm Wed 23 Nov 11

wfcsteve says...

So, to summerize:

Bazini is Bassini.
Fransen is Bassini.
Bassini is Christ.

If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief.

Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.
So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini. wfcsteve

4:44pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Mjp99 says...

Oh dear
Oh dear Mjp99

4:56pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club. My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club. I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match. But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them! I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC. However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum! If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in!
BTW, before I go, I might need a little trim.

I am not as bald as Luton, Buckler, and EDL, but I am thinning a little on top.

I hear there is a good salon in Hemel, somewhere near "The Venture".

Can you please assist, as my English is not very good.

My good friend Vladimir has phoned me to say it is "p*ss", not urinate!

Sorry about that my loved ones!
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club. My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club. I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match. But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them! I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC. However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum! If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in![/p][/quote]BTW, before I go, I might need a little trim. I am not as bald as Luton, Buckler, and EDL, but I am thinning a little on top. I hear there is a good salon in Hemel, somewhere near "The Venture". Can you please assist, as my English is not very good. My good friend Vladimir has phoned me to say it is "p*ss", not urinate! Sorry about that my loved ones! grahamfransen

4:59pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

wfcsteve wrote:
So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.
My English is not very good Steve, but I think the word you are looking for is "summarise".

Sorry, old Lithuanian joke!
[quote][p][bold]wfcsteve[/bold] wrote: So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.[/p][/quote]My English is not very good Steve, but I think the word you are looking for is "summarise". Sorry, old Lithuanian joke! grahamfransen

5:02pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol.

Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago.

You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted.

So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend.

Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.
That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year. Cleverhornet

5:07pm Wed 23 Nov 11

luther blissett says...

Do some of you actually think fransen is Bassini?

OMFG!!!!
Do some of you actually think fransen is Bassini? OMFG!!!! luther blissett

5:09pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

Cleverhornet wrote:
That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol.

Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago.

You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted.

So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend.

Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.
Please tell me you don't really believe Fransen is Bazini
[quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.[/p][/quote]Please tell me you don't really believe Fransen is Bazini Alex Hillcroft

5:21pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

luther blissett wrote:
Do some of you actually think fransen is Bassini? OMFG!!!!
Well done Loofer!

It is about time you got something right!!

What a laugh I have had deceiving such a simple lot of mupetts!!!
[quote][p][bold]luther blissett[/bold] wrote: Do some of you actually think fransen is Bassini? OMFG!!!![/p][/quote]Well done Loofer! It is about time you got something right!! What a laugh I have had deceiving such a simple lot of mupetts!!! grahamfransen

5:22pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

Alex and Luther – grahamfransen IS Baz. So far all GF has done is protect Baz and slate anyone who even remotely said a bad word against him. Then – he even speaks like Baz. He is also arrogant – just like Baz – believes everyone loves him. lol.

With all the Baz bashing going he finally came out and admitted who he was. I beleive 90% of people already knew. My earlier posts were deleted when I mentioned that I felt that this may have been him.

For some reason the posts are no longer being deleted.

Yes grahamfransen IS Baz.
Alex and Luther – grahamfransen IS Baz. So far all GF has done is protect Baz and slate anyone who even remotely said a bad word against him. Then – he even speaks like Baz. He is also arrogant – just like Baz – believes everyone loves him. lol. With all the Baz bashing going he finally came out and admitted who he was. I beleive 90% of people already knew. My earlier posts were deleted when I mentioned that I felt that this may have been him. For some reason the posts are no longer being deleted. Yes grahamfransen IS Baz. Cleverhornet

5:23pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Cleverhornet wrote:
That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.
I tell you the truth......

My backers are Mummy and Daddy!

LOL.
[quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.[/p][/quote]I tell you the truth...... My backers are Mummy and Daddy! LOL. grahamfransen

5:27pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Cleverhornet wrote:
Alex and Luther – grahamfransen IS Baz. So far all GF has done is protect Baz and slate anyone who even remotely said a bad word against him. Then – he even speaks like Baz. He is also arrogant – just like Baz – believes everyone loves him. lol. With all the Baz bashing going he finally came out and admitted who he was. I beleive 90% of people already knew. My earlier posts were deleted when I mentioned that I felt that this may have been him. For some reason the posts are no longer being deleted. Yes grahamfransen IS Baz.
Well done my friend.

I must now away (is theese correct English)......

to have pow wow with my other great friend Vladimir at Pompey!

We try plane esacpe! Is that how you say it?

LOL.
[quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: Alex and Luther – grahamfransen IS Baz. So far all GF has done is protect Baz and slate anyone who even remotely said a bad word against him. Then – he even speaks like Baz. He is also arrogant – just like Baz – believes everyone loves him. lol. With all the Baz bashing going he finally came out and admitted who he was. I beleive 90% of people already knew. My earlier posts were deleted when I mentioned that I felt that this may have been him. For some reason the posts are no longer being deleted. Yes grahamfransen IS Baz.[/p][/quote]Well done my friend. I must now away (is theese correct English)...... to have pow wow with my other great friend Vladimir at Pompey! We try plane esacpe! Is that how you say it? LOL. grahamfransen

5:30pm Wed 23 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Vladimir says plane leaves in ten minutes!

Gotta go now!!

Lots of love to my many fans!!

COYH.
Vladimir says plane leaves in ten minutes! Gotta go now!! Lots of love to my many fans!! COYH. grahamfransen

5:31pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

grahamfransen wrote:
wfcsteve wrote:
So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.
My English is not very good Steve, but I think the word you are looking for is "summarise".

Sorry, old Lithuanian joke!
My English is not very good Baz – but is that not meant to be
“I’ll tell you the truth…….”

And not “I tell you the truth…….”


Sorry – old joke from Steve!
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wfcsteve[/bold] wrote: So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.[/p][/quote]My English is not very good Steve, but I think the word you are looking for is "summarise". Sorry, old Lithuanian joke![/p][/quote]My English is not very good Baz – but is that not meant to be “I’ll tell you the truth…….” And not “I tell you the truth…….” Sorry – old joke from Steve! Cleverhornet

5:38pm Wed 23 Nov 11

There was only one Scully says...

Will the real Baza please make himself known to his fare paying customers? Who first suggested the forum in the first place?
Where is his plastic surgeon friend who, I thought was also contributory to paying bills etc.
Apart from the name change has the nip and tuck surgeon also done a job on Baz?
Is this the reason we keep seeing the same pix which, also doubles as an advert for the 'New nip & tuck look' to go with the name change?
Can we also be enlightened on how, fans monies is being used if, its not going on the monthly leccy & gas bills.
Just a few posers before the Baz suggested forum in the new year.
Oh and by the way Russian Ogliarchs dont like critics of how they acquired their wealth. Beware of the late night knock on the door staff!
Will the real Baza please make himself known to his fare paying customers? Who first suggested the forum in the first place? Where is his plastic surgeon friend who, I thought was also contributory to paying bills etc. Apart from the name change has the nip and tuck surgeon also done a job on Baz? Is this the reason we keep seeing the same pix which, also doubles as an advert for the 'New nip & tuck look' to go with the name change? Can we also be enlightened on how, fans monies is being used if, its not going on the monthly leccy & gas bills. Just a few posers before the Baz suggested forum in the new year. Oh and by the way Russian Ogliarchs dont like critics of how they acquired their wealth. Beware of the late night knock on the door staff! There was only one Scully

5:46pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

Meanwhile, in other news, the goverment are due to review their policy on care in the community.
Meanwhile, in other news, the goverment are due to review their policy on care in the community. Only 2 Ross Jenkins

6:51pm Wed 23 Nov 11

llloydwithathirdl says...

I'm not being funny but this Fransen character is making this site impossible to have a decent debate on with other real fans.
I'm not being funny but this Fransen character is making this site impossible to have a decent debate on with other real fans. llloydwithathirdl

7:04pm Wed 23 Nov 11

lutondown says...

grahamfransen wrote:
wfcsteve wrote:
So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.
I refer to my reply above.

"How easily some simple folk are taken in!!
I will speak to Vladimir again, because I need to make some arrangements"!

Sorry Steve, you really are very simple, but we all knew that many moons ago!!
You could be right there because after all Jesus was a Jewish Zealot!! Mmm
What This guy is very good at is really stirring everyone up and ad much as I do enjoy banter this joker is beyond belief
Mad
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wfcsteve[/bold] wrote: So, to summerize: Bazini is Bassini. Fransen is Bassini. Bassini is Christ. If this is really supposed to be positive spin from the Bassini camp it defies belief. Fransen is being so inept with the case for the defence that I'm actually starting to think that it might be someone doing a clever hatchet job on Bassini.[/p][/quote]I refer to my reply above. "How easily some simple folk are taken in!! I will speak to Vladimir again, because I need to make some arrangements"! Sorry Steve, you really are very simple, but we all knew that many moons ago!![/p][/quote]You could be right there because after all Jesus was a Jewish Zealot!! Mmm What This guy is very good at is really stirring everyone up and ad much as I do enjoy banter this joker is beyond belief Mad lutondown

7:08pm Wed 23 Nov 11

lutondown says...

Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler,
Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys
Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees!
All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen.
Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler, Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees! All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen. lutondown

7:14pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.
Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club. strummerjoe

7:25pm Wed 23 Nov 11

lutondown says...

strummerjoe wrote:
Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.
Strummer joe for a start I don't believe he is, he has background backers
And you are someone who I do not answer to
You go beyond Clapper
Get back on your air guitar and jog on
[quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.[/p][/quote]Strummer joe for a start I don't believe he is, he has background backers And you are someone who I do not answer to You go beyond Clapper Get back on your air guitar and jog on lutondown

7:26pm Wed 23 Nov 11

buckler says...

lutondown wrote:
Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler, Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees! All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen.
Have you seen Neil Price these days? Think he had hair when he played for us mind you? Where do you think the mad one goes at night? Will try and think of more baldies but there used to be alot of cover ups in the olden days!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler, Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees! All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen.[/p][/quote]Have you seen Neil Price these days? Think he had hair when he played for us mind you? Where do you think the mad one goes at night? Will try and think of more baldies but there used to be alot of cover ups in the olden days! buckler

7:30pm Wed 23 Nov 11

buckler says...

strummerjoe wrote:
Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.
Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players!
[quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.[/p][/quote]Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players! buckler

8:02pm Wed 23 Nov 11

lutondown says...

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
I'm not being funny but this Fransen character is making this site impossible to have a decent debate on with other real fans.
Jonathan Dimbleby here Llloyd, what would you like to debate Sir?
[quote][p][bold]llloydwithathirdl[/bold] wrote: I'm not being funny but this Fransen character is making this site impossible to have a decent debate on with other real fans.[/p][/quote]Jonathan Dimbleby here Llloyd, what would you like to debate Sir? lutondown

8:12pm Wed 23 Nov 11

hollywood101 says...

Grahamfransen is NOT Bassini.
Grahamfransen is NOT Bassini. hollywood101

8:22pm Wed 23 Nov 11

SAHornet says...

buckler wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler, Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees! All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen.
Have you seen Neil Price these days? Think he had hair when he played for us mind you? Where do you think the mad one goes at night? Will try and think of more baldies but there used to be alot of cover ups in the olden days!
It goes back to the asylum for it's meds and chatty poohs with nursey. I know cos LD told me so. Night night fat, useless one and do as nursey tells you - take of that WFC tie, it's really not you
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Question Hornet Cornet and Buckler, Further to our 'who was the best baldies to play for the Horns' how about who was the best bald and fattest to play for the Golden boys Mahon and Mooney ( but both great on their own way) as my early entrees! All welcome to play except Jesus H Fransen.[/p][/quote]Have you seen Neil Price these days? Think he had hair when he played for us mind you? Where do you think the mad one goes at night? Will try and think of more baldies but there used to be alot of cover ups in the olden days![/p][/quote]It goes back to the asylum for it's meds and chatty poohs with nursey. I know cos LD told me so. Night night fat, useless one and do as nursey tells you - take of that WFC tie, it's really not you SAHornet

8:36pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

lutondown wrote:
strummerjoe wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.
Strummer joe for a start I don't believe he is, he has background backers And you are someone who I do not answer to You go beyond Clapper Get back on your air guitar and jog on
Very good. Ok, what happens when Basini's backers stop funding the club?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.[/p][/quote]Strummer joe for a start I don't believe he is, he has background backers And you are someone who I do not answer to You go beyond Clapper Get back on your air guitar and jog on[/p][/quote]Very good. Ok, what happens when Basini's backers stop funding the club? strummerjoe

8:41pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

buckler wrote:
strummerjoe wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.
Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players!
Cut and pasted from somebody on WFC forums, but I think you'll find it accurate (although I'm sure you won't bother to read it) :

Oh, FFS. It doesn't matter how many times it's spelled out, some people persist with this absolute ****.

Again, for the hard of thinking.

Bassini put in £3.5m to fund the working capital shortfall to 30 June 2011. From the share purchase agreement:

As the Company did not trade any player registrations in the recent transfer window in January 2011 and
now cannot sell any players until the next window in the summer of 2011, there is a working capital
requirement of approximately £3.5 million to cover the shortfall for the remainder of the Company’s current
financial year. Accordingly, WFCL has undertaken to provide £3.5 million for working capital purposes
subject, inter alia, to the Offer becoming or being declared wholly unconditional. In the event that the Offer
does not become wholly unconditional, the Company would have to secure alternative financing from
existing Watford Leisure Shareholders, Watford Leisure Directors, (a) new strategic investor(s) or another
source to cover its immediate working capital requirements.

Here is a link to the solicitor's letter confirming the funds held on an interest free loan. http://www.watfordle
isureplc.com/wp-...L
-25.03.11.pdf

Bassini has put in moneys to pay the first 2 payments on the Bonds (which are a debt of the club, and therefore payment of these improves the club's financial position) From the share purchase agreement :

Through Barrea Solicitors (a legal adviser to WFCL), WFCL has undertaken to pay a total of £1,000,000on behalf of Watford Leisure to Fordwat and Graham Simpson by way of part repayment of their Secured
Bonds upon and subject to the Offer having become unconditional in all respects and the Secured Bonds
Restructuring taking effect (the “Closing Date Repayment”). The monies required to make the Closing
Date Repayment are currently held in the client account of Barrea Solicitors, together with the sum of
£1,500,000 which is payable on 10 March 2012 by way of the next repayment instalment of the Secured
Bonds

The club loses between £3m and £4m a year before player trading and any ground works etc. We got £3.2 for DG, £865k net for WB, £1.05m from the AY deal. Total £5m. That will be eaten up and more by this year's losses plus PA, starting SW Corner, Red Lion, plus £1.2m spent on new players. Assuming we don't sell players for £7-8m in the next couple of windows, plenty more cash will need to be injected. So much for quick bucks and asset stripping.

This, for those of you who abuse the word, is FACT.
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.[/p][/quote]Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players![/p][/quote]Cut and pasted from somebody on WFC forums, but I think you'll find it accurate (although I'm sure you won't bother to read it) : Oh, FFS. It doesn't matter how many times it's spelled out, some people persist with this absolute ****. Again, for the hard of thinking. Bassini put in £3.5m to fund the working capital shortfall to 30 June 2011. From the share purchase agreement: As the Company did not trade any player registrations in the recent transfer window in January 2011 and now cannot sell any players until the next window in the summer of 2011, there is a working capital requirement of approximately £3.5 million to cover the shortfall for the remainder of the Company’s current financial year. Accordingly, WFCL has undertaken to provide £3.5 million for working capital purposes subject, inter alia, to the Offer becoming or being declared wholly unconditional. In the event that the Offer does not become wholly unconditional, the Company would have to secure alternative financing from existing Watford Leisure Shareholders, Watford Leisure Directors, (a) new strategic investor(s) or another source to cover its immediate working capital requirements. Here is a link to the solicitor's letter confirming the funds held on an interest free loan. http://www.watfordle isureplc.com/wp-...L -25.03.11.pdf Bassini has put in moneys to pay the first 2 payments on the Bonds (which are a debt of the club, and therefore payment of these improves the club's financial position) From the share purchase agreement : Through Barrea Solicitors (a legal adviser to WFCL), WFCL has undertaken to pay a total of £1,000,000on behalf of Watford Leisure to Fordwat and Graham Simpson by way of part repayment of their Secured Bonds upon and subject to the Offer having become unconditional in all respects and the Secured Bonds Restructuring taking effect (the “Closing Date Repayment”). The monies required to make the Closing Date Repayment are currently held in the client account of Barrea Solicitors, together with the sum of £1,500,000 which is payable on 10 March 2012 by way of the next repayment instalment of the Secured Bonds The club loses between £3m and £4m a year before player trading and any ground works etc. We got £3.2 for DG, £865k net for WB, £1.05m from the AY deal. Total £5m. That will be eaten up and more by this year's losses plus PA, starting SW Corner, Red Lion, plus £1.2m spent on new players. Assuming we don't sell players for £7-8m in the next couple of windows, plenty more cash will need to be injected. So much for quick bucks and asset stripping. This, for those of you who abuse the word, is FACT. strummerjoe

9:32pm Wed 23 Nov 11

derry pigweed says...

Laurence WHO...........?
Laurence WHO...........? derry pigweed

9:35pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

Very good LD. Can't actually answer anything, so resort to snide remarks.
Very good LD. Can't actually answer anything, so resort to snide remarks. strummerjoe

9:44pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

strummerjoe wrote:
buckler wrote:
strummerjoe wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.
Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players!
Cut and pasted from somebody on WFC forums, but I think you'll find it accurate (although I'm sure you won't bother to read it) :

Oh, FFS. It doesn't matter how many times it's spelled out, some people persist with this absolute ****.

Again, for the hard of thinking.

Bassini put in £3.5m to fund the working capital shortfall to 30 June 2011. From the share purchase agreement:

As the Company did not trade any player registrations in the recent transfer window in January 2011 and
now cannot sell any players until the next window in the summer of 2011, there is a working capital
requirement of approximately £3.5 million to cover the shortfall for the remainder of the Company’s current
financial year. Accordingly, WFCL has undertaken to provide £3.5 million for working capital purposes
subject, inter alia, to the Offer becoming or being declared wholly unconditional. In the event that the Offer
does not become wholly unconditional, the Company would have to secure alternative financing from
existing Watford Leisure Shareholders, Watford Leisure Directors, (a) new strategic investor(s) or another
source to cover its immediate working capital requirements.

Here is a link to the solicitor's letter confirming the funds held on an interest free loan. http://www.watfordle

isureplc.com/wp-...L

-25.03.11.pdf

Bassini has put in moneys to pay the first 2 payments on the Bonds (which are a debt of the club, and therefore payment of these improves the club's financial position) From the share purchase agreement :

Through Barrea Solicitors (a legal adviser to WFCL), WFCL has undertaken to pay a total of £1,000,000on behalf of Watford Leisure to Fordwat and Graham Simpson by way of part repayment of their Secured
Bonds upon and subject to the Offer having become unconditional in all respects and the Secured Bonds
Restructuring taking effect (the “Closing Date Repayment”). The monies required to make the Closing
Date Repayment are currently held in the client account of Barrea Solicitors, together with the sum of
£1,500,000 which is payable on 10 March 2012 by way of the next repayment instalment of the Secured
Bonds

The club loses between £3m and £4m a year before player trading and any ground works etc. We got £3.2 for DG, £865k net for WB, £1.05m from the AY deal. Total £5m. That will be eaten up and more by this year's losses plus PA, starting SW Corner, Red Lion, plus £1.2m spent on new players. Assuming we don't sell players for £7-8m in the next couple of windows, plenty more cash will need to be injected. So much for quick bucks and asset stripping.

This, for those of you who abuse the word, is FACT.
Prove will be in the humble pie, FACT!

Keep on strumming Baz, Joe!
[quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strummerjoe[/bold] wrote: Ah, you're back LD. Haven't answered my question as to what would happen if Bazini stopped funding the club.[/p][/quote]Since when has he been funding it? Thought he was just using the transfer money we got in and didn't spend on decent players![/p][/quote]Cut and pasted from somebody on WFC forums, but I think you'll find it accurate (although I'm sure you won't bother to read it) : Oh, FFS. It doesn't matter how many times it's spelled out, some people persist with this absolute ****. Again, for the hard of thinking. Bassini put in £3.5m to fund the working capital shortfall to 30 June 2011. From the share purchase agreement: As the Company did not trade any player registrations in the recent transfer window in January 2011 and now cannot sell any players until the next window in the summer of 2011, there is a working capital requirement of approximately £3.5 million to cover the shortfall for the remainder of the Company’s current financial year. Accordingly, WFCL has undertaken to provide £3.5 million for working capital purposes subject, inter alia, to the Offer becoming or being declared wholly unconditional. In the event that the Offer does not become wholly unconditional, the Company would have to secure alternative financing from existing Watford Leisure Shareholders, Watford Leisure Directors, (a) new strategic investor(s) or another source to cover its immediate working capital requirements. Here is a link to the solicitor's letter confirming the funds held on an interest free loan. http://www.watfordle isureplc.com/wp-...L -25.03.11.pdf Bassini has put in moneys to pay the first 2 payments on the Bonds (which are a debt of the club, and therefore payment of these improves the club's financial position) From the share purchase agreement : Through Barrea Solicitors (a legal adviser to WFCL), WFCL has undertaken to pay a total of £1,000,000on behalf of Watford Leisure to Fordwat and Graham Simpson by way of part repayment of their Secured Bonds upon and subject to the Offer having become unconditional in all respects and the Secured Bonds Restructuring taking effect (the “Closing Date Repayment”). The monies required to make the Closing Date Repayment are currently held in the client account of Barrea Solicitors, together with the sum of £1,500,000 which is payable on 10 March 2012 by way of the next repayment instalment of the Secured Bonds The club loses between £3m and £4m a year before player trading and any ground works etc. We got £3.2 for DG, £865k net for WB, £1.05m from the AY deal. Total £5m. That will be eaten up and more by this year's losses plus PA, starting SW Corner, Red Lion, plus £1.2m spent on new players. Assuming we don't sell players for £7-8m in the next couple of windows, plenty more cash will need to be injected. So much for quick bucks and asset stripping. This, for those of you who abuse the word, is FACT.[/p][/quote]Prove will be in the humble pie, FACT! Keep on strumming Baz, Joe! Jan Lohman

9:55pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

"Prove" (sic) of what? Another goon from the knuckledragging contingent. Read the post and tell me what is incorrect. All of this stuff is publically documented.
"Prove" (sic) of what? Another goon from the knuckledragging contingent. Read the post and tell me what is incorrect. All of this stuff is publically documented. strummerjoe

9:57pm Wed 23 Nov 11

strummerjoe says...

And before you start, yes I spelt publicly wrong.
And before you start, yes I spelt publicly wrong. strummerjoe

10:00pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

Beat me to it!
Beat me to it! Jan Lohman

10:13pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

Let's just see who is around longer.

Me, aka "knuckledragging goon" (thankyou by the way for those kind words), or, no cash Baz?

If he's not found out in March, then my money is on around June / July 2012.
Let's just see who is around longer. Me, aka "knuckledragging goon" (thankyou by the way for those kind words), or, no cash Baz? If he's not found out in March, then my money is on around June / July 2012. Jan Lohman

10:34pm Wed 23 Nov 11

Mjp99 says...

We have actually lost sight of who the real criminals are and who have and are still stripping the club. Anyone seen Mr Simpson at a game lately ?
We have actually lost sight of who the real criminals are and who have and are still stripping the club. Anyone seen Mr Simpson at a game lately ? Mjp99

12:59am Thu 24 Nov 11

Bush Hornet says...

Flipping eck what a b1tch fest
Flipping eck what a b1tch fest Bush Hornet

8:28am Thu 24 Nov 11

BassZZZZZini says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club.

My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club.

I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match.

But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them!

I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC.

However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum!

If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in!
Worst internet troll ever...
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: Further to my recent postings, I have got into contact with my good friend Vladimir Antonov, the owner of Portsmouth Football Club. My Lithuanian friend has told me that he has done a runner, because he is fed up with the complaints from Pompey fans despite putting a lot of money into that club. I was still ill on Saturday, and should really not have attended the match. But I was determined to have another good long talk with my great friend Vladamir, and he has told me a thing or two about how to avoid being prosecuted, and how to disappear quietly, if the club and the fans do not appreciate what you are doing for them! I am holding my fire at present, because I still love WFC. However, I do not love the "fans" on this forum! If they keep up they vitriol against me, I might reconsider and follow Vladimir into oblivion, and leave dear old WFC with out......how do you say it...... a pot to urinate in![/p][/quote]Worst internet troll ever... BassZZZZZini

8:58am Thu 24 Nov 11

garston tony says...

Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this.

I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum?

If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths
Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths garston tony

9:23am Thu 24 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

garston tony wrote:
Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths
Well said Tony.

But these sad anti-Bas muppets are so easy to take in!

I could not stop laughing all afternoon and evening!

Love, Bas.
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths[/p][/quote]Well said Tony. But these sad anti-Bas muppets are so easy to take in! I could not stop laughing all afternoon and evening! Love, Bas. grahamfransen

9:33am Thu 24 Nov 11

lutondown says...

garston tony wrote:
Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this.

I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum?

If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths
Who thinks he's Bas?
Tony you must berift of ideas man to Whitter on about nothing the way you do.
Fransen is just a nut job
Basini proper is god know what, he doesn't communicate so how FFS are we supposed to have trust in someone like this?
Why does his illness strike on question days? But seemed ok to walk around against Pompey?
And Tony I think you will find its a vast majority on here who now have doubts
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths[/p][/quote]Who thinks he's Bas? Tony you must berift of ideas man to Whitter on about nothing the way you do. Fransen is just a nut job Basini proper is god know what, he doesn't communicate so how FFS are we supposed to have trust in someone like this? Why does his illness strike on question days? But seemed ok to walk around against Pompey? And Tony I think you will find its a vast majority on here who now have doubts lutondown

10:12am Thu 24 Nov 11

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...

I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife.
I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife. Only 2 Ross Jenkins

10:14am Thu 24 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

lutondown wrote:
garston tony wrote: Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths
Who thinks he's Bas? Tony you must berift of ideas man to Whitter on about nothing the way you do. Fransen is just a nut job Basini proper is god know what, he doesn't communicate so how FFS are we supposed to have trust in someone like this? Why does his illness strike on question days? But seemed ok to walk around against Pompey? And Tony I think you will find its a vast majority on here who now have doubts
Dear Luton,

I am only well enough to come out in daylight, as I thought you knew!

When darkness approaches, I tend to turn into a Graham Taylor lookalike, and even end up saying silly things about myself on BBC radio!

If only 3CR, or WFC, could hold their forums in daylight, I would be all right!

But not many fans listen during the daytime, so I do not see anyway around this until next Spring when the daylight returns more!

At night, I have to retreat to the Midlands where the very nice people at Villa Park really do look after me very well. It is much better than this forum of hostility.

I will give interviews to little Frankie at the Wobby, because I have his phone number, and he only asks me very simple questions.

I like him a lot, because he does not put any pressure on me, and I do not like making too many PR mistakes, as this is one of my weaknesses!

Anyway must go now, because we do not get much daylight these dark and dismal days, and I have a new coffin arriving today from Transilvania to give the once over!

Love, Bas.
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: Oh my goodness the anti Bas lot believe the Grahamfransen poster IS actually LB and still expect us to believe their made up fantasies about the guy. Just goes to show the level of thought that some of the anti Bas lot put into this. I've been calling for LB to be given a chance, so am I LB too? Or maybe his mum? If you're so willing to be taken in by such a blatent urine take then no wonder you are so adament in your non factual beliefs and cant see reality for your myths[/p][/quote]Who thinks he's Bas? Tony you must berift of ideas man to Whitter on about nothing the way you do. Fransen is just a nut job Basini proper is god know what, he doesn't communicate so how FFS are we supposed to have trust in someone like this? Why does his illness strike on question days? But seemed ok to walk around against Pompey? And Tony I think you will find its a vast majority on here who now have doubts[/p][/quote]Dear Luton, I am only well enough to come out in daylight, as I thought you knew! When darkness approaches, I tend to turn into a Graham Taylor lookalike, and even end up saying silly things about myself on BBC radio! If only 3CR, or WFC, could hold their forums in daylight, I would be all right! But not many fans listen during the daytime, so I do not see anyway around this until next Spring when the daylight returns more! At night, I have to retreat to the Midlands where the very nice people at Villa Park really do look after me very well. It is much better than this forum of hostility. I will give interviews to little Frankie at the Wobby, because I have his phone number, and he only asks me very simple questions. I like him a lot, because he does not put any pressure on me, and I do not like making too many PR mistakes, as this is one of my weaknesses! Anyway must go now, because we do not get much daylight these dark and dismal days, and I have a new coffin arriving today from Transilvania to give the once over! Love, Bas. grahamfransen

10:25am Thu 24 Nov 11

wfcsteve says...

The amount of comment and speculation speaks volumes about the mistakes that Bassini has made. If he would communicate with us all of this uncertainty would stop and the conspiracy theories would go away.
Bassini chooses not to communicat, however, and the circus goes on.

As much as I hate talking about football in the terms of 'business' and 'customers', Bassini represents himself as a businessman, and if he treated his customers with the disregard which he has for us in any other type of business it wouldn't be around for very long. Perhaps that is why he has the financial track record which he has.

Come on Bassini, let some light in on this or your 'customers' will continue to think the worst.
The amount of comment and speculation speaks volumes about the mistakes that Bassini has made. If he would communicate with us all of this uncertainty would stop and the conspiracy theories would go away. Bassini chooses not to communicat, however, and the circus goes on. As much as I hate talking about football in the terms of 'business' and 'customers', Bassini represents himself as a businessman, and if he treated his customers with the disregard which he has for us in any other type of business it wouldn't be around for very long. Perhaps that is why he has the financial track record which he has. Come on Bassini, let some light in on this or your 'customers' will continue to think the worst. wfcsteve

10:26am Thu 24 Nov 11

garston tony says...

Lutondown you obviously havent bothered reading the number of posts where people were acting like GF was really LB!

Hmm, LB? LD? LB LD? LB, LD, LB, LD..... LUTON DOWN IS BAS!! And I'm Graham Taylor.

Luton again if you bother to read the posts you'll note that even i, someone who has and does and is calling for people to give LB a chance instead of making things up about him have already said that him pulling out of the Q&A didnt look good.

Now instead of throwing around insults and pure fiction hows about we ALL get behind a campaign to get the WO and/or BBC3R to put questions to LB off air and have his responses recorded/posted online/printed.

LB could answer the questions in the comfort of his own home. In bed, still with a dressing gown on with a nice cupa on the bedside table for all I care but he would have no reason not to do this. The Q's could even be e-mailed to him, the point being LB would then have no wriggle room and if he decided to not answer the questions (put to him in a non potentially confrontational environment or pressured environment) then even those who support him would have to question why and he would be giving plenty of ammunition to those who are against him.
Lutondown you obviously havent bothered reading the number of posts where people were acting like GF was really LB! Hmm, LB? LD? LB LD? LB, LD, LB, LD..... LUTON DOWN IS BAS!! And I'm Graham Taylor. Luton again if you bother to read the posts you'll note that even i, someone who has and does and is calling for people to give LB a chance instead of making things up about him have already said that him pulling out of the Q&A didnt look good. Now instead of throwing around insults and pure fiction hows about we ALL get behind a campaign to get the WO and/or BBC3R to put questions to LB off air and have his responses recorded/posted online/printed. LB could answer the questions in the comfort of his own home. In bed, still with a dressing gown on with a nice cupa on the bedside table for all I care but he would have no reason not to do this. The Q's could even be e-mailed to him, the point being LB would then have no wriggle room and if he decided to not answer the questions (put to him in a non potentially confrontational environment or pressured environment) then even those who support him would have to question why and he would be giving plenty of ammunition to those who are against him. garston tony

10:28am Thu 24 Nov 11

wfcsteve says...

Yes Fransen, I wrote 'communicat'.

Get over it.
Yes Fransen, I wrote 'communicat'. Get over it. wfcsteve

10:34am Thu 24 Nov 11

stevyweavy says...

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife.
Oh god does that mean I've been living a lie all this time?
[quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife.[/p][/quote]Oh god does that mean I've been living a lie all this time? stevyweavy

10:45am Thu 24 Nov 11

wfcsteve says...

Only 2 Ross Jenkins wrote:
I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife.
Release Laurence
[quote][p][bold]Only 2 Ross Jenkins[/bold] wrote: I'm Laurence Bassini and so's my wife.[/p][/quote]Release Laurence wfcsteve

11:24am Thu 24 Nov 11

lutondown says...

garston tony wrote:
Lutondown you obviously havent bothered reading the number of posts where people were acting like GF was really LB!

Hmm, LB? LD? LB LD? LB, LD, LB, LD..... LUTON DOWN IS BAS!! And I'm Graham Taylor.

Luton again if you bother to read the posts you'll note that even i, someone who has and does and is calling for people to give LB a chance instead of making things up about him have already said that him pulling out of the Q&A didnt look good.

Now instead of throwing around insults and pure fiction hows about we ALL get behind a campaign to get the WO and/or BBC3R to put questions to LB off air and have his responses recorded/posted online/printed.

LB could answer the questions in the comfort of his own home. In bed, still with a dressing gown on with a nice cupa on the bedside table for all I care but he would have no reason not to do this. The Q's could even be e-mailed to him, the point being LB would then have no wriggle room and if he decided to not answer the questions (put to him in a non potentially confrontational environment or pressured environment) then even those who support him would have to question why and he would be giving plenty of ammunition to those who are against him.
why would I read your drivel
I tend to skip reading predictable posts during the day, I have to work you know
And I think you'll find other than a few the other posts know who the nut job is.
Still he seems to have a friend in you
Now jog on, Roy's waiting to talk politics
[quote][p][bold]garston tony[/bold] wrote: Lutondown you obviously havent bothered reading the number of posts where people were acting like GF was really LB! Hmm, LB? LD? LB LD? LB, LD, LB, LD..... LUTON DOWN IS BAS!! And I'm Graham Taylor. Luton again if you bother to read the posts you'll note that even i, someone who has and does and is calling for people to give LB a chance instead of making things up about him have already said that him pulling out of the Q&A didnt look good. Now instead of throwing around insults and pure fiction hows about we ALL get behind a campaign to get the WO and/or BBC3R to put questions to LB off air and have his responses recorded/posted online/printed. LB could answer the questions in the comfort of his own home. In bed, still with a dressing gown on with a nice cupa on the bedside table for all I care but he would have no reason not to do this. The Q's could even be e-mailed to him, the point being LB would then have no wriggle room and if he decided to not answer the questions (put to him in a non potentially confrontational environment or pressured environment) then even those who support him would have to question why and he would be giving plenty of ammunition to those who are against him.[/p][/quote]why would I read your drivel I tend to skip reading predictable posts during the day, I have to work you know And I think you'll find other than a few the other posts know who the nut job is. Still he seems to have a friend in you Now jog on, Roy's waiting to talk politics lutondown

1:04pm Thu 24 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

Hey Luton, while it is still daylight, I have a few requests for you:

Cliffie has just phoned to say that he has run out of prawns for his sandwiches.

Can you get him some please, and a new flask and blanket, ile you are at it, as it it gets a bit windy in the Upper Rous, and often prevents some good sleeping time!

EDL has lost his his demo banner. Can you find him another one, preferably in time for the end of season party when we say well done to SD and to Bas!

Bas needs a trim before going to Donny. Can you please make an appointment with Buckler at the salon!

GT needs a new "stake", as he only comes out at night these days!

And can you arrange a bigger telephone box in Kenilworth Road for the upcoming AGM. I hear your numbers have gone up from three to four!

Love Graham, sorry, I mean Bas...xx
Hey Luton, while it is still daylight, I have a few requests for you: Cliffie has just phoned to say that he has run out of prawns for his sandwiches. Can you get him some please, and a new flask and blanket, ile you are at it, as it it gets a bit windy in the Upper Rous, and often prevents some good sleeping time! EDL has lost his his demo banner. Can you find him another one, preferably in time for the end of season party when we say well done to SD and to Bas! Bas needs a trim before going to Donny. Can you please make an appointment with Buckler at the salon! GT needs a new "stake", as he only comes out at night these days! And can you arrange a bigger telephone box in Kenilworth Road for the upcoming AGM. I hear your numbers have gone up from three to four! Love Graham, sorry, I mean Bas...xx grahamfransen

1:16pm Thu 24 Nov 11

hollywood101 says...

Graham, while all these posts are at least measuring something on the ''i might aswell read'' meter, don't make yourself look a dick and imply Graham Taylor is some form of vampire or whatever you meant by your last comment, there's a good chap.
Graham, while all these posts are at least measuring something on the ''i might aswell read'' meter, don't make yourself look a dick and imply Graham Taylor is some form of vampire or whatever you meant by your last comment, there's a good chap. hollywood101

1:19pm Thu 24 Nov 11

garston tony says...

Lutondown if you are not willing to listen to others peoples points of view then its not exactly a 'discussion' is it. You've made your mind up and couldnt give a rats behind about facts or balance.
Lutondown if you are not willing to listen to others peoples points of view then its not exactly a 'discussion' is it. You've made your mind up and couldnt give a rats behind about facts or balance. garston tony

1:19pm Thu 24 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

hollywood101 wrote:
Graham, while all these posts are at least measuring something on the ''i might aswell read'' meter, don't make yourself look a dick and imply Graham Taylor is some form of vampire or whatever you meant by your last comment, there's a good chap.
Okay Holly.

LOL.
[quote][p][bold]hollywood101[/bold] wrote: Graham, while all these posts are at least measuring something on the ''i might aswell read'' meter, don't make yourself look a dick and imply Graham Taylor is some form of vampire or whatever you meant by your last comment, there's a good chap.[/p][/quote]Okay Holly. LOL. grahamfransen

1:24pm Thu 24 Nov 11

hollywood101 says...

congratulations. I almost believed you
congratulations. I almost believed you hollywood101

3:41pm Thu 24 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

hollywood101 wrote:
congratulations. I almost believed you
Yep, it was a good laugh!

I am amazed how many fell for it, especially in view in some of my older postings!

I notice that you and your pals on the WFC forums even opened a thread dedicated to it, and several more seemed to be taken in!

All I am really saying, is give Bas some more time to prive himself.

He might prove to be a villain in the long run, but at present he is doing just fine, as long as he keeps pumping the money in.
[quote][p][bold]hollywood101[/bold] wrote: congratulations. I almost believed you[/p][/quote]Yep, it was a good laugh! I am amazed how many fell for it, especially in view in some of my older postings! I notice that you and your pals on the WFC forums even opened a thread dedicated to it, and several more seemed to be taken in! All I am really saying, is give Bas some more time to prive himself. He might prove to be a villain in the long run, but at present he is doing just fine, as long as he keeps pumping the money in. grahamfransen

4:18pm Thu 24 Nov 11

stevyweavy says...

grahamfransen wrote:
hollywood101 wrote: congratulations. I almost believed you
Yep, it was a good laugh! I am amazed how many fell for it, especially in view in some of my older postings! I notice that you and your pals on the WFC forums even opened a thread dedicated to it, and several more seemed to be taken in! All I am really saying, is give Bas some more time to prive himself. He might prove to be a villain in the long run, but at present he is doing just fine, as long as he keeps pumping the money in.
Is he pumping money into the club or is he loaning money to the club along with interest accruing on it as this has not been made clear?
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hollywood101[/bold] wrote: congratulations. I almost believed you[/p][/quote]Yep, it was a good laugh! I am amazed how many fell for it, especially in view in some of my older postings! I notice that you and your pals on the WFC forums even opened a thread dedicated to it, and several more seemed to be taken in! All I am really saying, is give Bas some more time to prive himself. He might prove to be a villain in the long run, but at present he is doing just fine, as long as he keeps pumping the money in.[/p][/quote]Is he pumping money into the club or is he loaning money to the club along with interest accruing on it as this has not been made clear? stevyweavy

4:21pm Thu 24 Nov 11

SAHornet says...

We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?
We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about? SAHornet

4:50pm Thu 24 Nov 11

Cleverhornet says...

Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum???

Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one.

Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz.

I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy!

The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout!

On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol.
Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum??? Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one. Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz. I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy! The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout! On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol. Cleverhornet

4:58pm Thu 24 Nov 11

Alex Hillcroft says...

SAHornet wrote:
We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?
Quite.

I hope my doubts are proved wrong. I am certain they won't be though.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?[/p][/quote]Quite. I hope my doubts are proved wrong. I am certain they won't be though. Alex Hillcroft

5:06pm Thu 24 Nov 11

lutondown says...

SAHornet wrote:
We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?
Couldn't agree more and I'd say it's the pro Bas who are trying to keep it alive
Repeating themselves constantly so one post looks like the other except the authors avator.
Trouble is not much on the footy front from the Wobby
See Priskin has gone to Derby on loan
As a starter for ten!
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more and I'd say it's the pro Bas who are trying to keep it alive Repeating themselves constantly so one post looks like the other except the authors avator. Trouble is not much on the footy front from the Wobby See Priskin has gone to Derby on loan As a starter for ten! lutondown

5:16pm Thu 24 Nov 11

grahamfransen says...

lutondown wrote:
SAHornet wrote: We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?
Couldn't agree more and I'd say it's the pro Bas who are trying to keep it alive Repeating themselves constantly so one post looks like the other except the authors avator. Trouble is not much on the footy front from the Wobby See Priskin has gone to Derby on loan As a starter for ten!
Same old, same old, from the same few serial negative posters!!

No wonder we get nearly 200 posts on every main thread, because the same four or five post about 20 times each!!

What a sad lot you are!!

GT OUT!!!

BAS IN!!!!

SD IN!!!
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more and I'd say it's the pro Bas who are trying to keep it alive Repeating themselves constantly so one post looks like the other except the authors avator. Trouble is not much on the footy front from the Wobby See Priskin has gone to Derby on loan As a starter for ten![/p][/quote]Same old, same old, from the same few serial negative posters!! No wonder we get nearly 200 posts on every main thread, because the same four or five post about 20 times each!! What a sad lot you are!! GT OUT!!! BAS IN!!!! SD IN!!! grahamfransen

5:35pm Thu 24 Nov 11

Hatfieldhorn says...

grahamfransen wrote:
Cleverhornet wrote:
That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.
I tell you the truth......

My backers are Mummy and Daddy!

LOL.
Graham you worry me you must have far to much time on your hands,and as for Bas I repeat what I said about SD else where on these forums all we can do is cross our fingers and hope . He does not inspire confidence.
[quote][p][bold]grahamfransen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: That’s about right Baz. That’s what you’ve always done. A bit of pressure and it all over. lol. Truth is you cant do it this time can you? – cause I know a little secret that I managed to find on the internet. WHO YOUR BACKERS ARE. GT was right about you all along. I believe if it was down to you alone, you would certainly have pulled out a long time ago. You know as well as I do the moment I post the details of who I think your backers are – this post will get deleted. So… be a big boy and grow up. If this all goes wrong and hypothetically you get a big pay off – don’t try and run any more businesses as these will inevitably go wrong for you my friend. Have a Good Christmas and look forward to what rubbish comes out of your mouth in the new year.[/p][/quote]I tell you the truth...... My backers are Mummy and Daddy! LOL.[/p][/quote]Graham you worry me you must have far to much time on your hands,and as for Bas I repeat what I said about SD else where on these forums all we can do is cross our fingers and hope . He does not inspire confidence. Hatfieldhorn

6:09pm Thu 24 Nov 11

Jan Lohman says...

Someone please, get the men in White coats.

GRAHAMFRANSEN OUT!!!
Someone please, get the men in White coats. GRAHAMFRANSEN OUT!!! Jan Lohman

7:34pm Thu 24 Nov 11

overthemooney says...

My yellow blooded friends. Perhaps you may want to concentrate on ridding our club from this joker instead of posting the usual stench. A few basic questions which you should ask yourself -
Why did Timperley and GT not recommend Lozzers bid?
Why did he pass up on buying Blackburn Rovers and buy a small club surrounded by Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea as well as the usual high numbers of southern based stinky northeners?
His family are really not that wealthy, they have more money than me but people who buy football clubs can wipe their cracks with £50 notes. Who's money is funding the club? Are we surviving off the £5M plus that was aqcuired in transfer fees and existing sell on deals?
You say he is going to build this, repair that and relay the pitch. Have any of these been done yet? Instead of sorting the pitch, he has invited the egg chasers to stay and scew it up some more. When are these posh twatts leaving? Open ended agreement?
Building work is going on?? For a couple of hundred quid I can stick a load of scaffolding up. It makes my house look like a building site but b-lox all going on.
Do any of you trust a man who was going to get one of his mum's friends to sit on the board with him? What would she know about running a football club? She had worked in smutters or bagels so what would she know about a multi million pound industry. Any of you worried yet? There have been some good comments about sticking together - good advice. Back SD, back the team and unite to rid the club of this pathetic fat slob of a man. We have allowed a fat little Gooner to mince into our club and rape it without being properley challenged. Take your fiver and go and buy an Arsenal air freshner for your Bentley. It must stink of you!
My yellow blooded friends. Perhaps you may want to concentrate on ridding our club from this joker instead of posting the usual stench. A few basic questions which you should ask yourself - Why did Timperley and GT not recommend Lozzers bid? Why did he pass up on buying Blackburn Rovers and buy a small club surrounded by Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea as well as the usual high numbers of southern based stinky northeners? His family are really not that wealthy, they have more money than me but people who buy football clubs can wipe their cracks with £50 notes. Who's money is funding the club? Are we surviving off the £5M plus that was aqcuired in transfer fees and existing sell on deals? You say he is going to build this, repair that and relay the pitch. Have any of these been done yet? Instead of sorting the pitch, he has invited the egg chasers to stay and scew it up some more. When are these posh twatts leaving? Open ended agreement? Building work is going on?? For a couple of hundred quid I can stick a load of scaffolding up. It makes my house look like a building site but b-lox all going on. Do any of you trust a man who was going to get one of his mum's friends to sit on the board with him? What would she know about running a football club? She had worked in smutters or bagels so what would she know about a multi million pound industry. Any of you worried yet? There have been some good comments about sticking together - good advice. Back SD, back the team and unite to rid the club of this pathetic fat slob of a man. We have allowed a fat little Gooner to mince into our club and rape it without being properley challenged. Take your fiver and go and buy an Arsenal air freshner for your Bentley. It must stink of you! overthemooney

10:22pm Thu 24 Nov 11

lockerbiehornet says...

grahamfransen says...
4:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know...
Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!!

If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into!

If that's the case maybe you should tell him to 'do one' when you snuggle up with him tonight Mr Frandsen AKA Bas
grahamfransen says... 4:43pm Tue 22 Nov 11 llloydwithathirdl wrote: Joking aside, does anyone know what is exactly wrong with him? I would ask him myself, but, you know... Yes, he is sick and tired of you lot of ungrateful whinging so called "fans"!! If I was him, I would pull my money out right now, and leave you lot to sulk over administration and relegation to the nether regions, where Sky put very little money into! If that's the case maybe you should tell him to 'do one' when you snuggle up with him tonight Mr Frandsen AKA Bas lockerbiehornet

10:29pm Thu 24 Nov 11

derry pigweed says...

overthemooney wrote:
My yellow blooded friends. Perhaps you may want to concentrate on ridding our club from this joker instead of posting the usual stench. A few basic questions which you should ask yourself - Why did Timperley and GT not recommend Lozzers bid? Why did he pass up on buying Blackburn Rovers and buy a small club surrounded by Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea as well as the usual high numbers of southern based stinky northeners? His family are really not that wealthy, they have more money than me but people who buy football clubs can wipe their cracks with £50 notes. Who's money is funding the club? Are we surviving off the £5M plus that was aqcuired in transfer fees and existing sell on deals? You say he is going to build this, repair that and relay the pitch. Have any of these been done yet? Instead of sorting the pitch, he has invited the egg chasers to stay and scew it up some more. When are these posh twatts leaving? Open ended agreement? Building work is going on?? For a couple of hundred quid I can stick a load of scaffolding up. It makes my house look like a building site but b-lox all going on. Do any of you trust a man who was going to get one of his mum's friends to sit on the board with him? What would she know about running a football club? She had worked in smutters or bagels so what would she know about a multi million pound industry. Any of you worried yet? There have been some good comments about sticking together - good advice. Back SD, back the team and unite to rid the club of this pathetic fat slob of a man. We have allowed a fat little Gooner to mince into our club and rape it without being properley challenged. Take your fiver and go and buy an Arsenal air freshner for your Bentley. It must stink of you!
I agree overthemooney well said
[quote][p][bold]overthemooney[/bold] wrote: My yellow blooded friends. Perhaps you may want to concentrate on ridding our club from this joker instead of posting the usual stench. A few basic questions which you should ask yourself - Why did Timperley and GT not recommend Lozzers bid? Why did he pass up on buying Blackburn Rovers and buy a small club surrounded by Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea as well as the usual high numbers of southern based stinky northeners? His family are really not that wealthy, they have more money than me but people who buy football clubs can wipe their cracks with £50 notes. Who's money is funding the club? Are we surviving off the £5M plus that was aqcuired in transfer fees and existing sell on deals? You say he is going to build this, repair that and relay the pitch. Have any of these been done yet? Instead of sorting the pitch, he has invited the egg chasers to stay and scew it up some more. When are these posh twatts leaving? Open ended agreement? Building work is going on?? For a couple of hundred quid I can stick a load of scaffolding up. It makes my house look like a building site but b-lox all going on. Do any of you trust a man who was going to get one of his mum's friends to sit on the board with him? What would she know about running a football club? She had worked in smutters or bagels so what would she know about a multi million pound industry. Any of you worried yet? There have been some good comments about sticking together - good advice. Back SD, back the team and unite to rid the club of this pathetic fat slob of a man. We have allowed a fat little Gooner to mince into our club and rape it without being properley challenged. Take your fiver and go and buy an Arsenal air freshner for your Bentley. It must stink of you![/p][/quote]I agree overthemooney well said derry pigweed

11:07pm Thu 24 Nov 11

Bush Hornet says...

SAHornet wrote:
We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?
No mate. There are thousands of Watford fans who are reserving judgement. And little more than a handful of vociferous fans with too much time on their hands dominating this thread. That doesn't put them in the majority.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: We all know exactly which side of the fence we stand on this. It's very obvious that the anti-Bas's are in the vast majority over the pro-bas's but the fact is that it's now become a bore. We have no alternative to "wait and see" what the outcome of all of this is. I still believe that our owner will prove to be the death of us but for now I just don't have the heart to discuss it any more. Anyone got any footie to talk about?[/p][/quote]No mate. There are thousands of Watford fans who are reserving judgement. And little more than a handful of vociferous fans with too much time on their hands dominating this thread. That doesn't put them in the majority. Bush Hornet

11:38pm Thu 24 Nov 11

PurpleRalph says...

Cleverhornet wrote:
Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum???

Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one.

Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz.

I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy!

The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout!

On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol.
Dear Cleverhornet - I'm not as clever as you and have had no luck digging deeper on the internet to discover who the backers are. My theory is it could be Michael Sherwood of Goldman Sachs. I've seen him in the directors box this season. He's a former director, has piles of cash and is also Jewish so may well know Baz's Family? He doesn't have the time or inclination to get involved on a day to day basis or bottomlesss pockets, but cares about the club enough to see it avoid administration. He then finds a family friend with time on their hands (Baz) to run things, but advises him to keep his gob shut about the arrangement (cue convenient illnesses when required). Probably completely wrong but still possible. Oh go on give us all a clue who it really is????
[quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum??? Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one. Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz. I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy! The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout! On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol.[/p][/quote]Dear Cleverhornet - I'm not as clever as you and have had no luck digging deeper on the internet to discover who the backers are. My theory is it could be Michael Sherwood of Goldman Sachs. I've seen him in the directors box this season. He's a former director, has piles of cash and is also Jewish so may well know Baz's Family? He doesn't have the time or inclination to get involved on a day to day basis or bottomlesss pockets, but cares about the club enough to see it avoid administration. He then finds a family friend with time on their hands (Baz) to run things, but advises him to keep his gob shut about the arrangement (cue convenient illnesses when required). Probably completely wrong but still possible. Oh go on give us all a clue who it really is???? PurpleRalph

5:36am Fri 25 Nov 11

lutondown says...

PurpleRalph wrote:
Cleverhornet wrote:
Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum???

Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one.

Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz.

I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy!

The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout!

On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol.
Dear Cleverhornet - I'm not as clever as you and have had no luck digging deeper on the internet to discover who the backers are. My theory is it could be Michael Sherwood of Goldman Sachs. I've seen him in the directors box this season. He's a former director, has piles of cash and is also Jewish so may well know Baz's Family? He doesn't have the time or inclination to get involved on a day to day basis or bottomlesss pockets, but cares about the club enough to see it avoid administration. He then finds a family friend with time on their hands (Baz) to run things, but advises him to keep his gob shut about the arrangement (cue convenient illnesses when required). Probably completely wrong but still possible. Oh go on give us all a clue who it really is????
If and only if, Mr Sherwood is behind Bas then I would be even more frightened
I can't see him being a Watford fan and could therefore be casting a cute business eye over the land the ground sits on
We're due a Morrisons in town??!
But again speculation from both ways, I really do think this thread is exhausted!
Thank god there's a game tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]PurpleRalph[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cleverhornet[/bold] wrote: Garston Tony and Grahamfransen are both basically Bassini. Let me ask - So no one here can get two identities on this forum??? Last night - Whilst Bassini (Granhamfransen) went off to get his triple portions of extra large Maccy D’s with extra large chips and a five diet cokes, I would bet a million dollars that he probably calculated how he was going to get his backside out of this one. Just as a pointer - I see Garston Tony was not around on yesterdays comments. Suddenly shows up today! I’m not saying that Garston Tony and GF are one of the same, but, I suppose - who really cares – both are as boring as each other. I did however notice that when GF pops up with a comment suddenly GT is not far behind backing him up!! Nice one Baz. I’ve mentioned it previously on this post, this Baz person, is just a front man. Dig a little deeper on the internet and you will see who the backers are – its certainly not Mummy and Daddy! The guys been made Bankrupt so many times it does not matter if he messes up WFC. The only person to get the flack will be Bassini – but he gets a payout! On a different subject – don’t you think Baz looks like Homer Simpson. I do believe Homer has more hair on the top though….. lol.[/p][/quote]Dear Cleverhornet - I'm not as clever as you and have had no luck digging deeper on the internet to discover who the backers are. My theory is it could be Michael Sherwood of Goldman Sachs. I've seen him in the directors box this season. He's a former director, has piles of cash and is also Jewish so may well know Baz's Family? He doesn't have the time or inclination to get involved on a day to day basis or bottomlesss pockets, but cares about the club enough to see it avoid administration. He then finds a family friend with time on their hands (Baz) to run things, but advises him to keep his gob shut about the arrangement (cue convenient illnesses when required). Probably completely wrong but still possible. Oh go on give us all a clue who it really is????[/p][/quote]If and only if, Mr Sherwood is behind Bas then I would be even more frightened I can't see him being a Watford fan and could therefore be casting a cute business eye over the land the ground sits on We're due a Morrisons in town??! But again speculation from both ways, I really do think this thread is exhausted! Thank god there's a game tomorrow. lutondown

7:57am Fri 25 Nov 11

Eastsussexhornet says...

I really don't think LB is much worse than a lot of other directors around the country but he has the double whammy disadvantage of being in a company that by definition has to have good relations yet he's a PR nightmare....
I really don't think LB is much worse than a lot of other directors around the country but he has the double whammy disadvantage of being in a company that by definition has to have good relations yet he's a PR nightmare.... Eastsussexhornet

9:46am Fri 25 Nov 11

hollywood101 says...

I see this comments page has caused a stir in the actual watford observer today....
I see this comments page has caused a stir in the actual watford observer today.... hollywood101

11:21am Sat 26 Nov 11

overthemooney says...

Just seen the front cover of the Watford Observer - who's bright idea was it to show Lozzer in a hard hat? Surely pictures like this just fuel the rumours that he is actually doing something!
Just seen the front cover of the Watford Observer - who's bright idea was it to show Lozzer in a hard hat? Surely pictures like this just fuel the rumours that he is actually doing something! overthemooney

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