Updated: Bassini: 'I'm looking to sell Watford' (From Watford Observer)

aussihornet wrote:
Well Bassini, I think your handling of PR has always had people on your back, badly done, but I think you did have intentions of doing a good job for Watford, I just think we had more issues then you could fix. Thanks for your work so far, hopefully you still have Watford's interests at heart!

aussihornet wrote:
Well Bassini, I think your handling of PR has always had people on your back, badly done, but I think you did have intentions of doing a good job for Watford, I just think we had more issues then you could fix. Thanks for your work so far, hopefully you still have Watford's interests at heart!

radlettman wrote:

aussihornet wrote: Well Bassini, I think your handling of PR has always had people on your back, badly done, but I think you did have intentions of doing a good job for Watford, I just think we had more issues then you could fix. Thanks for your work so far, hopefully you still have Watford's interests at heart!

If you are in Auz mate you need a reality check...... this guy has had "chancer" stamped all over him from day 1. He has been hanging on for weeks hoping that Marriappa would go. Hold onto Maps till Bassini goes.... or bankrupty looms...

southernhornet wrote:

radlettman wrote:

aussihornet wrote: Well Bassini, I think your handling of PR has always had people on your back, badly done, but I think you did have intentions of doing a good job for Watford, I just think we had more issues then you could fix. Thanks for your work so far, hopefully you still have Watford's interests at heart!

If you are in Auz mate you need a reality check...... this guy has had "chancer" stamped all over him from day 1. He has been hanging on for weeks hoping that Marriappa would go. Hold onto Maps till Bassini goes.... or bankrupty looms...

holding on to Maps til Bassini goes does make sense, but why then have we been able to reject bids and avoid selling him over the last few weeks while Baz is here?!

radlettman wrote:
Rumour has it that the man holding onto safe keys was linked to head groundsman as we still have to pay for the turf...... we only have a sandpit to play in !!!

strummerjoe wrote:
Caught me out, I'm not a Watford fan like you. Well done you. I just like wasting my time taking the p1ss out of brain dead halfwits.

aussiehorn wrote:
Attn Aussihornet your not that bloke I saw with a watford car sticker ( the one with the L***N shirt ) that was driving around Newcastle NSW . If not there are 3 of us !

Despite the web its still hard to understand whats going on at our club when you live the other side of the world but it does not meean we care any less !

mrbankrupt wrote:

southernhornet wrote:

radlettman wrote:

aussihornet wrote: Well Bassini, I think your handling of PR has always had people on your back, badly done, but I think you did have intentions of doing a good job for Watford, I just think we had more issues then you could fix. Thanks for your work so far, hopefully you still have Watford's interests at heart!

If you are in Auz mate you need a reality check...... this guy has had "chancer" stamped all over him from day 1. He has been hanging on for weeks hoping that Marriappa would go. Hold onto Maps till Bassini goes.... or bankrupty looms...

holding on to Maps til Bassini goes does make sense, but why then have we been able to reject bids and avoid selling him over the last few weeks while Baz is here?!

because 2mil was not enough for bassini/bazzini/ to keep club,he needed more money so he was holding out.
Lets just be thankfull he,s going.
At least the likes of bummerjoe,ab11,corb,

jasonwatford wont show there faces again

buckler wrote:
I personally will be talking to my Italian friends and will be making our club clapper free! You've been warned! As for being robbed blind, please up your eyes and ears?

blokey wrote:
Pozzo seems to have a sensible method for running a club. Looks like he is an advocate of the Moneyball philosophy.
But dont rule out some horrible decisions made just to show heis in charge, like sacking existing employees who have good track records

KeithMercer wrote:
Well done and a hearty thanks to Mr bankrupt,LD,and Bucks.Its time you clappers apologised and admit you were wrong all along and that the boys were on the money yet again. We will continue to fight for this club ! and ask the questions that need to be asked! even if the answers are not the ones you want to hear.Hopefully now we will have real owners who want to invest and take this club forward both on and off the Pitch.You clappers wont believe it but Watford actually has great potential and can look to establish themselves once again in a ground with four sides.Clappers I am not satisfied with midtable mediocrity and away trips to peterborough even if you are.
So apologise now and get behind the team.

pstannard4 wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
Dear Mr Bankrupt...hope the wheels on ur hemel house are still turning round ok. I support WFC and what Bassini said he would do he was doing....new players were coming in.....money was made available to Watford Trust....Pub was Re furb...New Pitch is being done...Who knows if his long term projects would have come off...Bas never seems in his business life to follow through so maybe its best to step aside now. I will support new owners if they also do the right thing and we see progress....im sure there be others now thinking we should be buying players out of our league. I do feel sorry for Mr bankrupt and Buckler ( who sometimes is funny ) as they have not much left to moan about. Cmon you horns.

Don't think Mr Bankrupt is Actually a Watford supporter like us. Doesn't understand that of what you said.

If Bas is such a bad person why was he spending on the stadium and got the pub referbished (very nice by the way). SD got to a higher finish in the Championship then MM and BR since AB left 4 years ago. I suppose he took us as far as he could.

Mr Bankrupt, go away back to the hole of Kenilworth Road where you came from. Idiot.

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

So Mr Hillcroft what has he done wrong exactly tio make him "a disaster"? If he's pocketed lots of cash from the club why is it worth more than when he bought it and why does he claim he "hasn't taken a penny out of the club" with claims that other directors can confirm this ? He was clearly in it for a capital gain when no-one else was prepared to buy us. If he achieved it, good on him. Who cares what his source of funding was or that he had a poor business track record. This will be irrelevant if he now sells.

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

So Mr Hillcroft what has he done wrong exactly tio make him "a disaster"? If he's pocketed lots of cash from the club why is it worth more than when he bought it and why does he claim he "hasn't taken a penny out of the club" with claims that other directors can confirm this ? He was clearly in it for a capital gain when no-one else was prepared to buy us. If he achieved it, good on him. Who cares what his source of funding was or that he had a poor business track record. This will be irrelevant if he now sells.

Do bounced cheques to creditors, apparent late payments to staff, squabbles with staff over access to the company safe, rumours of HMRC interest etc etc not cause you any unease?

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

So Mr Hillcroft what has he done wrong exactly tio make him "a disaster"? If he's pocketed lots of cash from the club why is it worth more than when he bought it and why does he claim he "hasn't taken a penny out of the club" with claims that other directors can confirm this ? He was clearly in it for a capital gain when no-one else was prepared to buy us. If he achieved it, good on him. Who cares what his source of funding was or that he had a poor business track record. This will be irrelevant if he now sells.

Do bounced cheques to creditors, apparent late payments to staff, squabbles with staff over access to the company safe, rumours of HMRC interest etc etc not cause you any unease?

Honest answer is "yes" but see explanation in the article and i prefer to base my views on facts rather than rumours. If the facts later show that Bas was in default on interest payments and effectively pushed out then I'd accept that. Likewise the HMRC "rumours". I think we were all (clappers and non clappers) concerned about his business track record and motives for buying the club but many of us were prepared to judge him on what he delivered. No disasters (other than PR) so far that I can see. No plans to relocate the club, no fire sale of players.....Will we be more comfortable being owned by the Pozzos ? Deeper pockets and experience of running clubs but no local link... Also noted in the comments above
"....Pozzo, father, was mixed up in the game-fixing scandal in Italy and has now been banned from holding executive posts in Italy, though he does still own Udinese"

Worrying ? On the whole I believe the sale would be beneficial to the club but we will have to see what happens and as with Bas, judge based on performance.

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

So Mr Hillcroft what has he done wrong exactly tio make him "a disaster"? If he's pocketed lots of cash from the club why is it worth more than when he bought it and why does he claim he "hasn't taken a penny out of the club" with claims that other directors can confirm this ? He was clearly in it for a capital gain when no-one else was prepared to buy us. If he achieved it, good on him. Who cares what his source of funding was or that he had a poor business track record. This will be irrelevant if he now sells.

Do bounced cheques to creditors, apparent late payments to staff, squabbles with staff over access to the company safe, rumours of HMRC interest etc etc not cause you any unease?

Honest answer is "yes" but see explanation in the article and i prefer to base my views on facts rather than rumours. If the facts later show that Bas was in default on interest payments and effectively pushed out then I'd accept that. Likewise the HMRC "rumours". I think we were all (clappers and non clappers) concerned about his business track record and motives for buying the club but many of us were prepared to judge him on what he delivered. No disasters (other than PR) so far that I can see. No plans to relocate the club, no fire sale of players.....Will we be more comfortable being owned by the Pozzos ? Deeper pockets and experience of running clubs but no local link... Also noted in the comments above
"....Pozzo, father, was mixed up in the game-fixing scandal in Italy and has now been banned from holding executive posts in Italy, though he does still own Udinese"

Worrying ? On the whole I believe the sale would be beneficial to the club but we will have to see what happens and as with Bas, judge based on performance.

So because Baz - or anyone else -says something that makes it a 'fact' does it?

Hilarious that Bi-Polar is using the "leaving to spend more time with my family" line so routinely trotted out by anyone who jumps before they are pushed!

buckler wrote:
Clap Clap Clap now Ciao! Got a big meeting this morning with some important Italian friends. CIAO

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

So Mr Hillcroft what has he done wrong exactly tio make him "a disaster"? If he's pocketed lots of cash from the club why is it worth more than when he bought it and why does he claim he "hasn't taken a penny out of the club" with claims that other directors can confirm this ? He was clearly in it for a capital gain when no-one else was prepared to buy us. If he achieved it, good on him. Who cares what his source of funding was or that he had a poor business track record. This will be irrelevant if he now sells.

Do bounced cheques to creditors, apparent late payments to staff, squabbles with staff over access to the company safe, rumours of HMRC interest etc etc not cause you any unease?

Honest answer is "yes" but see explanation in the article and i prefer to base my views on facts rather than rumours. If the facts later show that Bas was in default on interest payments and effectively pushed out then I'd accept that. Likewise the HMRC "rumours". I think we were all (clappers and non clappers) concerned about his business track record and motives for buying the club but many of us were prepared to judge him on what he delivered. No disasters (other than PR) so far that I can see. No plans to relocate the club, no fire sale of players.....Will we be more comfortable being owned by the Pozzos ? Deeper pockets and experience of running clubs but no local link... Also noted in the comments above
"....Pozzo, father, was mixed up in the game-fixing scandal in Italy and has now been banned from holding executive posts in Italy, though he does still own Udinese"

Worrying ? On the whole I believe the sale would be beneficial to the club but we will have to see what happens and as with Bas, judge based on performance.

So because Baz - or anyone else -says something that makes it a 'fact' does it?

Hilarious that Bi-Polar is using the "leaving to spend more time with my family" line so routinely trotted out by anyone who jumps before they are pushed!

"So because Baz - or anyone else -says something that makes it a 'fact' does it?"

No, but its more likely to be fact than "rumours" or some of your "opinions".

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

So Mr Hillcroft what has he done wrong exactly tio make him "a disaster"? If he's pocketed lots of cash from the club why is it worth more than when he bought it and why does he claim he "hasn't taken a penny out of the club" with claims that other directors can confirm this ? He was clearly in it for a capital gain when no-one else was prepared to buy us. If he achieved it, good on him. Who cares what his source of funding was or that he had a poor business track record. This will be irrelevant if he now sells.

Do bounced cheques to creditors, apparent late payments to staff, squabbles with staff over access to the company safe, rumours of HMRC interest etc etc not cause you any unease?

Honest answer is "yes" but see explanation in the article and i prefer to base my views on facts rather than rumours. If the facts later show that Bas was in default on interest payments and effectively pushed out then I'd accept that. Likewise the HMRC "rumours". I think we were all (clappers and non clappers) concerned about his business track record and motives for buying the club but many of us were prepared to judge him on what he delivered. No disasters (other than PR) so far that I can see. No plans to relocate the club, no fire sale of players.....Will we be more comfortable being owned by the Pozzos ? Deeper pockets and experience of running clubs but no local link... Also noted in the comments above
"....Pozzo, father, was mixed up in the game-fixing scandal in Italy and has now been banned from holding executive posts in Italy, though he does still own Udinese"

Worrying ? On the whole I believe the sale would be beneficial to the club but we will have to see what happens and as with Bas, judge based on performance.

So because Baz - or anyone else -says something that makes it a 'fact' does it?

Hilarious that Bi-Polar is using the "leaving to spend more time with my family" line so routinely trotted out by anyone who jumps before they are pushed!

"So because Baz - or anyone else -says something that makes it a 'fact' does it?"

No, but its more likely to be fact than "rumours" or some of your "opinions".

Why?

McHornet wrote:
mrbankrupt, who gave you the right to tell people where they are welcome...? If i pay my money, i am welcome, as are you!

mrbankrupt wrote:

McHornet wrote: mrbankrupt, who gave you the right to tell people where they are welcome...? If i pay my money, i am welcome, as are you!

No jocks for a start Mchornet Now clap on

mrbankrupt wrote:

McHornet wrote: I will clap on, thanks. Clap in support, like a supporter. Well done on the racism too, well done!

Mchornet you really are a sado. Get a life. If you want to call me a racist do it to my face & i will bring my mixed race son. Tell me where you want to meet us,i will turn up anywere you want. Make sure you reply to this

garston tony wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

McHornet wrote: I will clap on, thanks. Clap in support, like a supporter. Well done on the racism too, well done!

Mchornet you really are a sado. Get a life. If you want to call me a racist do it to my face & i will bring my mixed race son. Tell me where you want to meet us,i will turn up anywere you want. Make sure you reply to this

Oh dear, it gets better. 'My dads bigger than your dad', is that the level of your argument now mrbankrupt?

Just because you have a mixed race son doesnt mean you cant be racist by the way, there is more than one race dont you know?

Childish, childish, childish

Sy wrote:
There clearly are and have been issues with Bassini's ownership (and seemingly more behind the scenes to be uncovered) and there seems no doubt that he's selling so we'll see new owners of some variety. I'm not convinced that the Italian sale would be a good thing, though. Although he's brought success to both Udinese and Granada, the approach with Granada has been to turn them into a development club for Udinese so that Udinese have first option over Granada's players and many players are sent to Grenada on loan from Udinese. If that model would be followed here, it doesn't really fit with what I see as supporting a football club. One of the best things about recent years has been to see our youngsters coming through and being developed. To be, in effect a feeder club feels rather soulless. The other concerns are that Italian and English football are very different so similar efforts have often ended in failure (QPR went up when they abandoned the Italian transfer policy) and, if it doesn't work, the fact that we'd have moved away from our present business plan (develop our own players and sell them for a profit) would mean we would be in greater danger of implosion should the Italians decide to end the experiment and sell on.

mrbankrupt wrote:

garston tony wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

McHornet wrote: I will clap on, thanks. Clap in support, like a supporter. Well done on the racism too, well done!

Mchornet you really are a sado. Get a life. If you want to call me a racist do it to my face & i will bring my mixed race son. Tell me where you want to meet us,i will turn up anywere you want. Make sure you reply to this

Oh dear, it gets better. 'My dads bigger than your dad', is that the level of your argument now mrbankrupt? Just because you have a mixed race son doesnt mean you cant be racist by the way, there is more than one race dont you know? Childish, childish, childish

you really are a pr1ck,

mrbankrupt wrote:

garston tony wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

McHornet wrote: I will clap on, thanks. Clap in support, like a supporter. Well done on the racism too, well done!

Mchornet you really are a sado. Get a life. If you want to call me a racist do it to my face & i will bring my mixed race son. Tell me where you want to meet us,i will turn up anywere you want. Make sure you reply to this

Oh dear, it gets better. 'My dads bigger than your dad', is that the level of your argument now mrbankrupt?

Just because you have a mixed race son doesnt mean you cant be racist by the way, there is more than one race dont you know?

Childish, childish, childish

you really are a pr1ck,

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

garston tony wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

McHornet wrote: I will clap on, thanks. Clap in support, like a supporter. Well done on the racism too, well done!

Mchornet you really are a sado. Get a life. If you want to call me a racist do it to my face & i will bring my mixed race son. Tell me where you want to meet us,i will turn up anywere you want. Make sure you reply to this

Oh dear, it gets better. 'My dads bigger than your dad', is that the level of your argument now mrbankrupt? Just because you have a mixed race son doesnt mean you cant be racist by the way, there is more than one race dont you know? Childish, childish, childish

you really are a pr1ck,

More pearls of wisdom from the brain of Britain. Certainly knows how to win an argument with his carefully constructed verbal assessment of a situation. Demostrating a deep understanding of, and empathywith an alternative point of view, yet crushing all before him with his insight, indepth knowledge and reasoned logic !

Smilingburkinshaw wrote:

Sy wrote:
There clearly are and have been issues with Bassini's ownership (and seemingly more behind the scenes to be uncovered) and there seems no doubt that he's selling so we'll see new owners of some variety. I'm not convinced that the Italian sale would be a good thing, though. Although he's brought success to both Udinese and Granada, the approach with Granada has been to turn them into a development club for Udinese so that Udinese have first option over Granada's players and many players are sent to Grenada on loan from Udinese. If that model would be followed here, it doesn't really fit with what I see as supporting a football club. One of the best things about recent years has been to see our youngsters coming through and being developed. To be, in effect a feeder club feels rather soulless. The other concerns are that Italian and English football are very different so similar efforts have often ended in failure (QPR went up when they abandoned the Italian transfer policy) and, if it doesn't work, the fact that we'd have moved away from our present business plan (develop our own players and sell them for a profit) would mean we would be in greater danger of implosion should the Italians decide to end the experiment and sell on.

Have to to say I completly agree with this. Good article!

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Alex Hillcroft wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:

Not Bazzini wrote:
Wfc purchase price = 440,000
Sale of players used to fund repayments and running costs.

Sale price = 12,000,000

Looks like the club has been robbed by over £11,000,0000

Who allowed this to happen?

Thick. Not even the tiniest grasp of the figures. He's 'robbing' the club of about £2m, and fair play to him. If Pozzo had been around when Ashcroft wanted out, he wouldn't have made anything. But he wasn't, was he? And I didn't see Buckler (with his 'successful business' ) LD, Mr B KM et al stepping into the breach back at the start of 2011. ****.

A typically inane comment from Joe. Do you really think it's valid that a because someone didn't offer to buy the club they have no right to voice an opinion on the behaviour of the owner? I've never played in goal for Watford but I can still see that Loache is crap. Likewise I've never bought a football club, but anyone with a shred of business acumen could see from the off that with his mirky business history, his failure to reveal the source of his funding and the convoluted share structure he put in place to compete his takeover, Baz was likely to be a disaster. Please have the good grace to accept that your long standing defence of Baz - seemingly based on the few baubles he has tossed (the pub refurb, pitch, a walk round the stadium before matches) means that, at best, you are naive. If I was in a less charitable mood there are other words I could use to describe you and the other nit-wits who post on here with such high-minded and unshakable belief in their ill-considered and ill-informed opinions.

So Mr Hillcroft what has he done wrong exactly tio make him "a disaster"? If he's pocketed lots of cash from the club why is it worth more than when he bought it and why does he claim he "hasn't taken a penny out of the club" with claims that other directors can confirm this ? He was clearly in it for a capital gain when no-one else was prepared to buy us. If he achieved it, good on him. Who cares what his source of funding was or that he had a poor business track record. This will be irrelevant if he now sells.

Do bounced cheques to creditors, apparent late payments to staff, squabbles with staff over access to the company safe, rumours of HMRC interest etc etc not cause you any unease?

Honest answer is "yes" but see explanation in the article and i prefer to base my views on facts rather than rumours. If the facts later show that Bas was in default on interest payments and effectively pushed out then I'd accept that. Likewise the HMRC "rumours". I think we were all (clappers and non clappers) concerned about his business track record and motives for buying the club but many of us were prepared to judge him on what he delivered. No disasters (other than PR) so far that I can see. No plans to relocate the club, no fire sale of players.....Will we be more comfortable being owned by the Pozzos ? Deeper pockets and experience of running clubs but no local link... Also noted in the comments above
"....Pozzo, father, was mixed up in the game-fixing scandal in Italy and has now been banned from holding executive posts in Italy, though he does still own Udinese"

Worrying ? On the whole I believe the sale would be beneficial to the club but we will have to see what happens and as with Bas, judge based on performance.

So because Baz - or anyone else -says something that makes it a 'fact' does it?

Hilarious that Bi-Polar is using the "leaving to spend more time with my family" line so routinely trotted out by anyone who jumps before they are pushed!

"So because Baz - or anyone else -says something that makes it a 'fact' does it?"

No, but its more likely to be fact than "rumours" or some of your "opinions".

Why?

Because he is directly involved and knows the facts. You are not and are guessing. Only risk is that he is lying. If so facts/events will later prove this. Bottom line is we would both be supportive of this potential acquisition.

garston tony wrote:
If SD does get sacked it'll be a lesson, after his recent expression of loyalty, that loyalty can mean nothing in this game. It would be harsh on him beyond belief. No wonder so many people involved in the game feel they have to look after number 1 and when you see this sort of thing can you blame them?

As to becoming a feeder club for Udinese or Granada, is that really different to being a selling club to everyone else? What difference does it make if our best players go to Italy, Spain or a Prem club ultimately? As long as our academy stays open and is supported fully nothing will actually be that different.

I said it in a previous post I'm not overly keen on foreign ownership but I guess ultimately if it brings some sort of success to the club along with continued stability then it might be alright

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

garston tony wrote: If SD does get sacked it'll be a lesson, after his recent expression of loyalty, that loyalty can mean nothing in this game. It would be harsh on him beyond belief. No wonder so many people involved in the game feel they have to look after number 1 and when you see this sort of thing can you blame them? As to becoming a feeder club for Udinese or Granada, is that really different to being a selling club to everyone else? What difference does it make if our best players go to Italy, Spain or a Prem club ultimately? As long as our academy stays open and is supported fully nothing will actually be that different. I said it in a previous post I'm not overly keen on foreign ownership but I guess ultimately if it brings some sort of success to the club along with continued stability then it might be alright

Gaston - glad to hear you are still ok. Worried Mr B may have got you. No problem being a feeder club if we still sell players at the same stage and still get market prices. I'd be less happy if young Sean were to join Udinese for £250k this summer !!

miked2006 wrote:
What a very strange run of events.

Firstly, if Dyche does get sacked he can count himself very unlucky after a great first year in management. Although going forward the Italian money might be better for the future, I'm sure there will be a bit of uncertainty in the changing rooms over losing Sean. I also have a vague recollection of a high profile Italian manager spending lots of money and almost ruining the club which does worry me slightly...

About Bas, can people stop being so petty. It all comes down to one thing; optimism. I think every Watford fan in the world was unsure about him. Some people blindly supported him as long as he did right by the club (in the same way I'm sure we probably all at some point thought we could stay in the Premier League, or that thought Boothroyd was the best English manager since GT). Others never gave him a chance, claiming that no good could ever come from his ownership. The truth is that both sides are right and wrong: we needed him as we had no one else and as long as the Italian deal goes through we will be in a much better place than when he took over. However he clearly used our club as a bit of a deluded gamble. I think it is a bit naive to say that he is not now being found out; he knew it would happen himself and thus avoided the spotlight at all costs. The problem with Bas is he does a lot of good things, but he is a petulant child who continuously messes things up for himself. I would even go as far as to say (my oppinion not fact) he may not be all that with it. Everyone at the club has now appeared to have had enough of his games and mood swings and are pushing him out (despite his claims which are opposed by nearly everyone else).

What is most annoying is that this seemed like it was going to be the most stable summer for a number of years but once again this club seems to attract drama. I do not expect this to change if Pozzo takes us over, it's hard to tell if he will make us Lucky (if anyone gets the reference). There will always be a reason for the clappers to clap and the moaners to moan. We are Watford FC afterall.

garston tony wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

garston tony wrote: If SD does get sacked it'll be a lesson, after his recent expression of loyalty, that loyalty can mean nothing in this game. It would be harsh on him beyond belief. No wonder so many people involved in the game feel they have to look after number 1 and when you see this sort of thing can you blame them? As to becoming a feeder club for Udinese or Granada, is that really different to being a selling club to everyone else? What difference does it make if our best players go to Italy, Spain or a Prem club ultimately? As long as our academy stays open and is supported fully nothing will actually be that different. I said it in a previous post I'm not overly keen on foreign ownership but I guess ultimately if it brings some sort of success to the club along with continued stability then it might be alright

Gaston - glad to hear you are still ok. Worried Mr B may have got you. No problem being a feeder club if we still sell players at the same stage and still get market prices. I'd be less happy if young Sean were to join Udinese for £250k this summer !!

Watch out Mickey, schools finishing for the day so our mutual friend will be out about now. What do you reckon, tie around forehead Rambo style is his look?

If young Sean is going to go does it matter if its for £250k to Udinese or £1mill elsewhere if the owners are going to support the club - which in the end is why it has to sell players.

Of course how all this works in the context of the new financial regs is to be seen, in this sort of arrangement it could be that the buying club even though linked will still have to pay a good fee not a token amount.

jasonwatford wrote:
pmsl laughing buckler.......nice pasta lunch was it ?? So we signing ballotelli on loan ???

radlettman wrote:
Season ticket x 2 for sale ... any offers ????

buckler wrote:
Same old Buckler , always right and a true hero now to most real Watford fans! Can't wait to hear my name being chanted soon!

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

garston tony wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

garston tony wrote: If SD does get sacked it'll be a lesson, after his recent expression of loyalty, that loyalty can mean nothing in this game. It would be harsh on him beyond belief. No wonder so many people involved in the game feel they have to look after number 1 and when you see this sort of thing can you blame them? As to becoming a feeder club for Udinese or Granada, is that really different to being a selling club to everyone else? What difference does it make if our best players go to Italy, Spain or a Prem club ultimately? As long as our academy stays open and is supported fully nothing will actually be that different. I said it in a previous post I'm not overly keen on foreign ownership but I guess ultimately if it brings some sort of success to the club along with continued stability then it might be alright

Gaston - glad to hear you are still ok. Worried Mr B may have got you. No problem being a feeder club if we still sell players at the same stage and still get market prices. I'd be less happy if young Sean were to join Udinese for £250k this summer !!

Watch out Mickey, schools finishing for the day so our mutual friend will be out about now. What do you reckon, tie around forehead Rambo style is his look?

If young Sean is going to go does it matter if its for £250k to Udinese or £1mill elsewhere if the owners are going to support the club - which in the end is why it has to sell players.

Of course how all this works in the context of the new financial regs is to be seen, in this sort of arrangement it could be that the buying club even though linked will still have to pay a good fee not a token amount.

I think it does matter for the same reasons Sy has just posted.

Also I'd prefer £1m straight cash to the £250k + support. The support could be in the form of loans which would then be repayable in the event of the Pozzos pulling the plug some time down the line.

Assuming the deal does go ahead, it would be useful to see how they would plan to run the club.

Does ayone know what happened to Grenada ? I see they got promoted to the top tier and survived last year but has there been much player traffic between them and Udinese? Do they have 7 Italian under 19s in their team ??!!

cliff46 wrote:
I suppose we have to be a little grateful to Lord Ashcroft and his expensive lawyers for tying Bas up in a manner that appears to have offered our club some protection during this fiasco.

tonupchris wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

garston tony wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

garston tony wrote: If SD does get sacked it'll be a lesson, after his recent expression of loyalty, that loyalty can mean nothing in this game. It would be harsh on him beyond belief. No wonder so many people involved in the game feel they have to look after number 1 and when you see this sort of thing can you blame them? As to becoming a feeder club for Udinese or Granada, is that really different to being a selling club to everyone else? What difference does it make if our best players go to Italy, Spain or a Prem club ultimately? As long as our academy stays open and is supported fully nothing will actually be that different. I said it in a previous post I'm not overly keen on foreign ownership but I guess ultimately if it brings some sort of success to the club along with continued stability then it might be alright

Gaston - glad to hear you are still ok. Worried Mr B may have got you. No problem being a feeder club if we still sell players at the same stage and still get market prices. I'd be less happy if young Sean were to join Udinese for £250k this summer !!

Watch out Mickey, schools finishing for the day so our mutual friend will be out about now. What do you reckon, tie around forehead Rambo style is his look?

If young Sean is going to go does it matter if its for £250k to Udinese or £1mill elsewhere if the owners are going to support the club - which in the end is why it has to sell players.

Of course how all this works in the context of the new financial regs is to be seen, in this sort of arrangement it could be that the buying club even though linked will still have to pay a good fee not a token amount.

I think it does matter for the same reasons Sy has just posted.

Also I'd prefer £1m straight cash to the £250k + support. The support could be in the form of loans which would then be repayable in the event of the Pozzos pulling the plug some time down the line.

Assuming the deal does go ahead, it would be useful to see how they would plan to run the club.

Does ayone know what happened to Grenada ? I see they got promoted to the top tier and survived last year but has there been much player traffic between them and Udinese? Do they have 7 Italian under 19s in their team ??!!

Granada had 5 players on loan from Udinese (according to Wkipedia) last season and finished 17th in La Liga. They are a similar size to us but have spent a bit longer in the top division compared to us.
Udinese finished 3rd in Serie A last season!

lutondown wrote:

cliff46 wrote: I suppose we have to be a little grateful to Lord Ashcroft and his expensive lawyers for tying Bas up in a manner that appears to have offered our club some protection during this fiasco.

Spot on Cliff, I think it's official you don't need any money or stable background to buy a football lib these days, just a bit of the old devil may care attitude. As Bas once claimed he turned own 10 million to sell the club on I can only assume he's been offered more??? Mmmmmm

Back from Hammerau wrote:

lutondown wrote:

cliff46 wrote: I suppose we have to be a little grateful to Lord Ashcroft and his expensive lawyers for tying Bas up in a manner that appears to have offered our club some protection during this fiasco.

Spot on Cliff, I think it's official you don't need any money or stable background to buy a football lib these days, just a bit of the old devil may care attitude. As Bas once claimed he turned own 10 million to sell the club on I can only assume he's been offered more??? Mmmmmm

According to the legal documents published at the time of the takeover Laurence Bassini did have the money to buy the club and why would Lord Ashcroft have sold the to someone who was likely to default on the repayment of the loan that was part of the transaction?

If you read the article it says "Bassini claims the Pozzo family will need around £20m to complete the takeover." When I went to school £20m was quite a bit more than £10m.

corbindallas wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

southernhornet wrote:

radlettman wrote:

aussihornet wrote: Well Bassini, I think your handling of PR has always had people on your back, badly done, but I think you did have intentions of doing a good job for Watford, I just think we had more issues then you could fix. Thanks for your work so far, hopefully you still have Watford's interests at heart!

If you are in Auz mate you need a reality check...... this guy has had "chancer" stamped all over him from day 1. He has been hanging on for weeks hoping that Marriappa would go. Hold onto Maps till Bassini goes.... or bankrupty looms...

holding on to Maps til Bassini goes does make sense, but why then have we been able to reject bids and avoid selling him over the last few weeks while Baz is here?!

because 2mil was not enough for bassini/bazzini/ to keep club,he needed more money so he was holding out.
Lets just be thankfull he,s going.
At least the likes of bummerjoe,ab11,corb,


jasonwatford wont show there faces again

Wrong, and NO there is no apology coming or needed from me and others. You really need to read my previous posts properly, I support Bassini and still do whilst he is the current owner of our club for what he has done for Watford the past season, I won't list it all (again) but he has still done more in his 14 months as owner than the previous 3 owners and regardless of what you, Buckler, Lutondown, Alex Hillcroft and any other anti Bas say that FACT will not change. He is the current owner and should be supported whilst he is actually DOING things for the club, as said he was and so get's my support, if he stops doing so then he loses my support, simples! You lot are the jokes as you not only did not support him whilst positive things were actually happening in front of your eye's at the club but also all wanted Sean Dyche OUT remember, or have you really got short memories. As I say and continue to say I support Watford and anyone who wants to make Watford FC a better team and place, it's people like you that make it difficult for anyone with your negatives from day one. Also a warning ' the grass is not always greener on the other side ! One last thing before I leave you lot to ignore the relevant facts AGAIN, if Bassini did not buy the club at the time what was going to happen? Administration and points deduction, = transfer embargo or worse club assets sold which means players GONE cheaper than they are worth, at the end of the day if we survive as a club we would no longer be a Championship club and if anyone thinks that is better than the current you clearly are fools!

lutondown wrote:

corbindallas wrote:

mrbankrupt wrote:

southernhornet wrote:

radlettman wrote:

aussihornet wrote: Well Bassini, I think your handling of PR has always had people on your back, badly done, but I think you did have intentions of doing a good job for Watford, I just think we had more issues then you could fix. Thanks for your work so far, hopefully you still have Watford's interests at heart!

If you are in Auz mate you need a reality check...... this guy has had "chancer" stamped all over him from day 1. He has been hanging on for weeks hoping that Marriappa would go. Hold onto Maps till Bassini goes.... or bankrupty looms...

holding on to Maps til Bassini goes does make sense, but why then have we been able to reject bids and avoid selling him over the last few weeks while Baz is here?!

because 2mil was not enough for bassini/bazzini/ to keep club,he needed more money so he was holding out.
Lets just be thankfull he,s going.
At least the likes of bummerjoe,ab11,corb,



jasonwatford wont show there faces again

Wrong, and NO there is no apology coming or needed from me and others. You really need to read my previous posts properly, I support Bassini and still do whilst he is the current owner of our club for what he has done for Watford the past season, I won't list it all (again) but he has still done more in his 14 months as owner than the previous 3 owners and regardless of what you, Buckler, Lutondown, Alex Hillcroft and any other anti Bas say that FACT will not change. He is the current owner and should be supported whilst he is actually DOING things for the club, as said he was and so get's my support, if he stops doing so then he loses my support, simples! You lot are the jokes as you not only did not support him whilst positive things were actually happening in front of your eye's at the club but also all wanted Sean Dyche OUT remember, or have you really got short memories. As I say and continue to say I support Watford and anyone who wants to make Watford FC a better team and place, it's people like you that make it difficult for anyone with your negatives from day one. Also a warning ' the grass is not always greener on the other side ! One last thing before I leave you lot to ignore the relevant facts AGAIN, if Bassini did not buy the club at the time what was going to happen? Administration and points deduction, = transfer embargo or worse club assets sold which means players GONE cheaper than they are worth, at the end of the day if we survive as a club we would no longer be a Championship club and if anyone thinks that is better than the current you clearly are fools!

Corby you were wrong plain and simple difference between the clappers and antis is, we had the good grace to admit we were wrong on Dyche. You, Bummer Blow Frannypants/abe666, Crimson pretender etc have no class
And I do remember most of your pro Bas posts, they are as suspected, pants!
One more thing Plod....
Zola......
LOL

lutondown wrote:

Back from Hammerau wrote:

lutondown wrote:

cliff46 wrote: I suppose we have to be a little grateful to Lord Ashcroft and his expensive lawyers for tying Bas up in a manner that appears to have offered our club some protection during this fiasco.

Spot on Cliff, I think it's official you don't need any money or stable background to buy a football lib these days, just a bit of the old devil may care attitude. As Bas once claimed he turned own 10 million to sell the club on I can only assume he's been offered more??? Mmmmmm

According to the legal documents published at the time of the takeover Laurence Bassini did have the money to buy the club and why would Lord Ashcroft have sold the to someone who was likely to default on the repayment of the loan that was part of the transaction?

If you read the article it says "Bassini claims the Pozzo family will need around £20m to complete the takeover." When I went to school £20m was quite a bit more than £10m.

If this is the case then it vindicates what I said, a quick 19.5 million has been made
Can't imagine anyone would buy the club got that amount. I do hope they do

strummerjoe wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Back from Hammerau wrote:

lutondown wrote:

cliff46 wrote: I suppose we have to be a little grateful to Lord Ashcroft and his expensive lawyers for tying Bas up in a manner that appears to have offered our club some protection during this fiasco.

Spot on Cliff, I think it's official you don't need any money or stable background to buy a football lib these days, just a bit of the old devil may care attitude. As Bas once claimed he turned own 10 million to sell the club on I can only assume he's been offered more??? Mmmmmm

According to the legal documents published at the time of the takeover Laurence Bassini did have the money to buy the club and why would Lord Ashcroft have sold the to someone who was likely to default on the repayment of the loan that was part of the transaction?

If you read the article it says "Bassini claims the Pozzo family will need around £20m to complete the takeover." When I went to school £20m was quite a bit more than £10m.

If this is the case then it vindicates what I said, a quick 19.5 million has been made
Can't imagine anyone would buy the club got that amount. I do hope they do

Sigh......
£20m, less:
£7.5m bonds to be paid off
£10m of money put in (inc £3m bonds already paid)
£440k share purchase
= £19.5m profit does it

maths not your strong point I guess. Not exactly sure what your strong point might be, though.

strummerjoe wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Back from Hammerau wrote:

lutondown wrote:

cliff46 wrote: I suppose we have to be a little grateful to Lord Ashcroft and his expensive lawyers for tying Bas up in a manner that appears to have offered our club some protection during this fiasco.

Spot on Cliff, I think it's official you don't need any money or stable background to buy a football lib these days, just a bit of the old devil may care attitude. As Bas once claimed he turned own 10 million to sell the club on I can only assume he's been offered more??? Mmmmmm

According to the legal documents published at the time of the takeover Laurence Bassini did have the money to buy the club and why would Lord Ashcroft have sold the to someone who was likely to default on the repayment of the loan that was part of the transaction?

If you read the article it says "Bassini claims the Pozzo family will need around £20m to complete the takeover." When I went to school £20m was quite a bit more than £10m.

If this is the case then it vindicates what I said, a quick 19.5 million has been made
Can't imagine anyone would buy the club got that amount. I do hope they do

Sigh......
£20m, less:
£7.5m bonds to be paid off
£10m of money put in (inc £3m bonds already paid)
£440k share purchase
= £19.5m profit does it

maths not your strong point I guess. Not exactly sure what your strong point might be, though.

jimbuctu wrote:
Excellent news!

What a great 18 months or so. We were in dire straits with no light at the end of the tunnel, a safe bet for relegation and nigh on un-investable. Now we're financially stable (pending confirmation the HMRC stuff is incorrect) to the extent we're (possibly) worth 20million.

That is an incredible turnaround and everyone involved deserves huge praise for getting us to this stage. Thanks to Bas for his strange and bizarre but seemingly successful tenure.

Admittedly I have no idea how he has managed it when from the outside it seems he isn't the most shrewd or sharp of men, but he has (pending all the above!) and therefore I don't care a jot!

I'm slightly dubious of foreign ownership and, honestly, really don't like the thought of 'doing a QPR' and losing any identity the club has. It is, however, preferable to 'doing a Portsmouth' and pretty much losing the club altogether, so I'll settle for it. As usual, I'll clap all the way until the next owners/managers and players come along, then I'll clap some more, and then some more. Basically, I just want to go and watch my team and enjoy myself.

Unfortunately, it seems I'm not actually welcome because I support the club rather than constantly attack every aspect of it. Shame, I quite enjoy the up's and down's of following our trials and tribulations. All part of the fun if you ask me.

Isn't it weird, I envy almost every other clubs fans attitudes.
Our home support is pretty bad and has been getting worse and worse for years. Maybe, just maybe, it's because there are less of the likes of me who will sing and clap even when we're losing, and more of some of the types on here who will start complaining before a ball has been kicked. Maybe.

Enjoy yourselves for f's sake! YOU'RE PAYING DON'T FORGET!

lutondown wrote:

buckler wrote:
Same old Buckler , always right and a true hero now to most real Watford fans! Can't wait to hear my name being chanted soon!

Your so great it's unbelievable
Clap clap clap
Your so great it's unbelievable
Clap clap clap
There's only one Rick Buckler, one Rick Buckler, one Rick Buckler.... Oh F no there's actually two!
Hee hee hee

No Wheels wrote:

lutondown wrote:

buckler wrote:
Same old Buckler , always right and a true hero now to most real Watford fans! Can't wait to hear my name being chanted soon!

Your so great it's unbelievable
Clap clap clap
Your so great it's unbelievable
Clap clap clap
There's only one Rick Buckler, one Rick Buckler, one Rick Buckler.... Oh F no there's actually two!
Hee hee hee

I remember the other Rick Buckler. A drummer with the Jam. A rather pedestrian drummer in truth who hung around near more talented people and didn't have much more to contribute other than offering to hit things occasionally. Made a big noise, but didn't say much of note. Hang on, are you sure they're not the same guy?

No Wheels wrote:
thanks Luton Down

but I lied about the the wheels
and I do actually have a van to carry my band's equipment around

do please enlighten us as to the highlights of Buckler's post-Jam career? Time U.K.? Gawd help us

No Wheels wrote:
I like the Jam, I never said I didn't. I've got all the 7's to prove it, which I doubt you have from your clunky description of their music - and sure, the drums are great.

I'm just amused by the fact that the object of your dotage chose the name of a tub thumper for his moniker and constantly offers to practice his flams and paradiddles on anyone who doesn't agree with the crew, or whatever you lot are calling your firm of firm-handed herberts this week.

No Wheels wrote:
Billy Hunt Billy Hunt Billy Billy...

strummerjoe wrote:
Foxton's heavy bass? The guy played a Rickenbacker, noted for its twang. And I bet I saw them before you did Buckler - Dunstable California Ballroom, July 77, supported by Chelsea (Gene October's rubbish band)

garston tony wrote:
As to the anti LB lot pointing to Sky reports would LB be suing them if they were right?

lutondown wrote:

strummerjoe wrote:
Foxton's heavy bass? The guy played a Rickenbacker, noted for its twang. And I bet I saw them before you did Buckler - Dunstable California Ballroom, July 77, supported by Chelsea (Gene October's rubbish band)

Think you're Having a dig at the wrong person
Twitting airhead drummer Joe is you
Just thinking about that gentle twang in a Town called malice....tool

WhatFordEfSea_71 wrote:
I feel really sorry for all legitimate Watford FC fans! As one of the many people on this message board who have over 30 years experience with this criminal, I knew from the moment he was involved with your unfortunate club that it would be a matter of months before the coffers were empty and he would exit stage left!!! How the FA can allow someone with this background and track record to buy a football is club is a travesty! Good luck Hornets. I hope you somehow manage to recover from this crook's involvement in your club. You deserve better!

WhatFordEfSea_71 wrote:
I feel really sorry for all legitimate Watford FC fans! As one of the many people on this message board who have over 30 years experience with this criminal, I knew from the moment he was involved with your unfortunate club that it would be a matter of months before the coffers were empty and he would exit stage left!!! How the FA can allow someone with this background and track record to buy a football is club is a travesty! Good luck Hornets. I hope you somehow manage to recover from this crook's involvement in your club. You deserve better!

garston tony wrote:
I find it fascinating that the anti LB lot are still not grasping that the club does and has not generated enough income to cover outgoings and when you add in what has been spent on the pub and ground/pitch and payments to previous owners LB has had to put into the club/cough up quite a few million quid to a) keep it going day to day, b) pay for capital costs of improvements and c) pay Lord A et al.

Whoever the owner had been the money from player sales would have been swallowed up by club costs.

This mantra repeated rote style that LB has pocketed money from the club just shows how little actually the anti LB lot had to base their weird hatred of him on. The fact that a lot of them resort to personal insults/threats instead of actually providing evidence just adds icing on that cake.

Buckler you may have had some inside info on the club being sold but that does not make you right about the claims you made against LB. I would contact you on Twitter, but dont have it. And anyway isnt it a bit dodgy a child inviting adults to contact them that way?

garston tony wrote:
And what are you going to say on twitter that you cant say here? More foul language, name calling and threats is it?

Grow up, if this is how you react because people have a different opinion to you I pity you as much as I dismiss your childish behaviour

garston tony wrote:
Only when you stop stomping your feet and threaten to set your dad on me just because I have a different opinion to you

lutondown wrote:

garston tony wrote:
Only when you stop stomping your feet and threaten to set your dad on me just because I have a different opinion to you

Can you accept my differing opinion to the one you have of yourself? If so you'll accept I think your a jerk, and whys worse a liberal jerk at that
Jerk

Cleverhornet wrote:
Bassini was sold a yarn. He's not a great businessman (in fact - hes a bit of an idiot) so he bought into the yarn. The backers have played Bassini.

Bassini only just realises it and runs to the safe to empty it and disappear. He's thinking that hes got the Bentley, range rover and whatever he can get out of the safe. He's thinking he's still quids in as he only put in some money when buying the club (possibly this was his backers money - as he hasn't sold his bungalow in Stanmore yet). It got so bad that he had to call in the police when he was "refused access to his own safe".

One minute it's "I'm not selling Watford", and then it's " I'm selling it because my daughter misses her dad". So why was Bassini to run over to the safe and withdraw his funds that evening.

He's trying to mix with some unsavoury characters because he thinks this makes him a gangster. The truth is they'll all laughing at him and just taking his money.

Jewish people are a very close community and have some great family values when it comes to family, children and people of their faith. The fact they all avoid Bassini like the plague says it all.

And for all those pro Bassini fans on the forums, most of them are Bassini or his silly friends who think that Bassini is somehow going to praise and reward them for their loyalty.

Get real. This guy has made a joke out of every single one of you. The question is - what is Watfords future.

I'm not a big football fan, but why would someone want to buy Watford when Bassinis sold everyone, and everyone seems to be leaving. The only thing left is the land.

What's the bet, that any current deals fall through and a development company steps in.

buckler wrote:

lutondown wrote:

garston tony wrote: Only when you stop stomping your feet and threaten to set your dad on me just because I have a different opinion to you

Can you accept my differing opinion to the one you have of yourself? If so you'll accept I think your a jerk, and whys worse a liberal jerk at that Jerk

That's the biggest understatement I've ever heard! Love to meet this clown?

Cleverhornet wrote:
Bassini was sold a yarn. He's not a great businessman (in fact - hes a bit of an idiot) so he bought into the yarn. The backers have played Bassini. Bassini only just realises it and runs to the safe to empty it and disappear. He's thinking that hes got the Bentley, range rover and whatever he can get out of the safe. He's thinking he's still quids in as he only put in some money when buying the club (possibly this was his backers money - as he hasn't sold his bungalow in Stanmore yet). It got so bad that he had to call in the police when he was "refused access to his own safe". One minute it's "I'm not selling Watford", and then it's " I'm selling it because my daughter misses her dad". So why was Bassini to run over to the safe and withdraw his funds that evening. He's trying to mix with some unsavoury characters because he thinks this makes him a gangster. The truth is they'll all laughing at him and just taking his money. Jewish people are a very close community and have some great family values when it comes to family, children and people of their faith. The fact they all avoid Bassini like the plague says it all. And for all those pro Bassini fans on the forums, most of them are Bassini or his silly friends who think that Bassini is somehow going to praise and reward them for their loyalty. Get real. This guy has made a joke out of every single one of you. The question is - what is Watfords future. I'm not a big football fan, but why would someone want to buy Watford when Bassinis sold everyone, and everyone seems to be leaving. The only thing left is the land. What's the bet, that any current deals fall through and a development company steps in.

lutondown wrote:
Note big silence from Pro Bas lobby Our club is in real trouble. Smell the coffee chaps and pray for the deal to happen

Cleverhornet wrote:
Hi Garston tony. Have you seen the latest on the Watford observer just out?

The buyers have pulled out!

Thought you should know. Sorry. The story will unfold very soon.

The amount Bassini put into buying the club was what he claimed his bungalow on Ashdale Grove is worth. You can guess the rest (the bit about running to the safe).

And finally, he has done a lot wrong, but you dont see it as he's a trickster - and very good I might add. Hope the rest of you guys have a new team to support - I heard Lutons quite close to travel to.