Pozzo want to establish Watford in the Premier League (From Watford Observer)

Loving it! All looking good now Bas has gone. #ForzaWatford

It is about time we heard something truth be told, but this "statement of intent" is surely good news for Watford FC. In true social media fashion "like".

Exciting times ahead!

Personally I am impressed with the message .They have a football pedigree and youth development will continue to form an important part of the club with an extended scouting network .
One of the early project s should be to tell Saracens to find elsewhere and leave our new pitch alone
On a light note fans mayhave to fine tune songs such as who ate all the spaghetti and so on .With players learning express anger by saying mamma mia and other choice Italian phrases that the ref will not understand !
Feel sorry for Sean and wish him well but exciting times do seem ahead though perhaps not instantaneously as it will take a while for things ot bed down

I don't know who wrote the script, but it certainly said all the things we wanted to hear.

Clearly there will be a bedding in period as GZ gets to know the squad, its strengths and its weaknesses.

So win, lose or draw, let's get behind whoever plays and let them know we're behind them all the way.

And from the picture on the club web site, it looks as though they'll have a billiard table of a pitch, so no excuses there!

COYH! See you in the Prem!

Good, they have let us know, now maybe it will relax a few of the fans.

Apart from BminusDerek the old clappers are conspicuous by their absence.
They have been in charge for what five days and have given more cause for optimism than we've had since the late seventies.
How Ffs can anyone criticise their lack of Comms after the last one trick Pony is beyond me.
As I suspect I think the small minded among us will look for the slightest thing to have a dig, possibly in revenge for how we sussed the limitations of Emporess Bas.
I suspect as we develop our ground, our standing, our fan base, the past hankerers will still be whining over our indifferent past and "values".
Freak em, I'm into the new
Welcome Il Pozzo and thank you for rescuing our little club

Finally, people who speak sense in charge of Watford.

A perfect statement of intent.

Results tell the story nothing else..lets wait and see

Hurray! Fantastic! At Last! Can't Wait! The future is bright, the future is bellissimo!

Loving it, cant wait for the season to start.

Looking forward to Lutondown and Buckler's uneducated and confrontational opinions as the season unfolds. That is if they get the chance in between homework and bedtime

desk35 wrote:
Personally I am impressed with the message .They have a football pedigree and youth development will continue to form an important part of the club with an extended scouting network .
One of the early project s should be to tell Saracens to find elsewhere and leave our new pitch alone
On a light note fans mayhave to fine tune songs such as who ate all the spaghetti and so on .With players learning express anger by saying mamma mia and other choice Italian phrases that the ref will not understand !
Feel sorry for Sean and wish him well but exciting times do seem ahead though perhaps not instantaneously as it will take a while for things ot bed down

Good point about saracens I forgot about them

Lutondown.....i allow you to dribble this out on the site but as long as we know the truth thats all that matters....lets see who we let go and who we sign.

Thank you lutondown (I can't believe I just had to type that, why any Watford fan would want that word in their "name" I really don't know) B- is far better than any of my O-Levels.

The statement is excellent in every respect apart the comment that they are not looking for a financial return.
I thought they were businessmen not philanthropists, am I missing something?
I am hoping Lutondowns' optimism will eventually wash over me.

Excellent statement, pitched at just the right level, and saying all you could ask for at this early stage. Now lets get GZ in place and make it happen. They'll be measured on what they actually do of course but this has filled the void perfectly for the time being.

Found this info on Italian magazine.......
Meanwhile, there are reports Udinese are ready to hand some of their talents over to Watford after the Pozzo family bought the club.

Like Granada in Spain, Watford could become a feeder club for the Friulani.

It’s suggested that Watford will take 22-year-old Brazilian full-back Neuton on loan after he managed only four Serie A

Dino1982 wrote:
Found this info on Italian magazine.......
Meanwhile, there are reports Udinese are ready to hand some of their talents over to Watford after the Pozzo family bought the club.

Like Granada in Spain, Watford could become a feeder club for the Friulani.

It’s suggested that Watford will take 22-year-old Brazilian full-back Neuton on loan after he managed only four Serie A

Yes, now that most loans are expired the updated Udinese's roster at http://www.transferm
arkt.co.uk/en/udines
e-calcio/kader/verei
n_410.html shows a much longer list than a single team can manage. You can expext the ones best fit to championship to come at Watford (also to regain market value if they didn't find enough space in Udinese first team). One other name that is said to probably go to WFC is Elkstrand.

stuegs wrote:
Loving it, cant wait for the season to start.

Looking forward to Lutondown and Buckler's uneducated and confrontational opinions as the season unfolds. That is if they get the chance in between homework and bedtime

Awh you still gutted and sore as we know and get most things correct! No place for your sort at the club anymore, so from me and gang Ciao! #ForzaWatford

I posted this the day the deal was announced and nothing has changed my opinion

"This is the single most exciting and most significant piece of news for WFC since the acquisition by Elton John in the early 70's. Football finance doesn't currently work in the UK and Watford were in the same danger as most of the football league clubs, of going out of business. With the exception of the handful of clubs with a billionaire benefactor or an average gate of 76,000 this is a sustainable business model that will become the envy of the UK footballing world. The Pozzo family model is not only proven (albeit in Italy and Spain) but will be greatly enhanced with the addition of a Premiership revenue stream. That tells me that we should see some high quality loanees gracing the Vic next season as the first objective will undoubtedly be to get the 'orns in the Prem.
The model also entails tapping existing football locations that produce quality players but that can be picked up cheaply. The Group have developed an excellent scouting network which can only be good for our Academy as we have a proven model that includes a good general education - a great plus point when you're selling the idea to the parents of the latest prodigy from Chile, Slovenia etc.

Udinese are apparently one of the most profitable clubs in Italy and with the model applied to a league with higher revenue streams I can see us being becoming equally viable.

This acquisition potentially harnesses the strengths of the 3 clubs to the benefit of all. The bit that excites me in particular is that the Prem TV money increases next year so of the 3 clubs in the Group, Watford probably have the potentially highest income stream. Why buy the club if you don’t intend to do what is necessary to get us Premiership status.

There will be frustrations and I do hope they give SD a chance to excel, as we may just have found an excellent young manager but this is a fantastic day for the club and I for one are extremely excited about where we will be in 2 years time!

This is what it's all about, we all have cause for optimism for the first time since the GT & ET era ! we will no longer have to work to the existing £5k max weekly wage budget and start competing realistically with other teams challenging for promotion! I don't think we should get ahead of ourselves as it may take a few years to build a team that will compete at the top but a long term owner with ambition is exactly what we needed !! Players will want to come to Watford when they hear what experience and success the Pozzos have had in the Italian & Spanish leagues.. I am as happy as a pig in poo !

dont get me wrong but i am gutted about sean he had the watford spirit from when he played right to being a great manager from little money and support but i love the statement looking forward to the good times ahead and totally agree with l*t*ndown sorry cant bring myself to swear lol Sono watford in pressofusione

WFC_007 wrote:
dont get me wrong but i am gutted about sean he had the watford spirit from when he played right to being a great manager from little money and support but i love the statement looking forward to the good times ahead and totally agree with l*t*ndown sorry cant bring myself to swear lol Sono watford in pressofusione

Yeah I loved Sean too but let's just hope he got a good severance package.

Not sure about Pozzos statement about not making money. If they do what they say they're entitled to make some

lutondown wrote:

lutondown wrote:
Apart from BminusDerek the old clappers are conspicuous by their absence.
They have been in charge for what five days and have given more cause for optimism than we've had since the late seventies.
How Ffs can anyone criticise their lack of Comms after the last one trick Pony is beyond me.
As I suspect I think the small minded among us will look for the slightest thing to have a dig, possibly in revenge for how we sussed the limitations of Emporess Bas.
I suspect as we develop our ground, our standing, our fan base, the past hankerers will still be whining over our indifferent past and "values".
Freak em, I'm into the new
Welcome Il Pozzo and thank you for rescuing our little club

Pozzo, Pozzo
So good I posted twice!!

Ive posted on the other stories LD, not been absent ta v much.

I think its a vary valid point to make that its taken 6 days to get a statememt from the new owners, at least in the UK press that it but my digs in previous posts have been aimed at you and your mates pointing out your more than slight lack of consistency.

Once again youve mis judged the situation, just because we didnt join you in quite vile anti LB comments doesnt mean we arent excited about the new owners and the future.

Well well well!!! We get a statement of intent and everyone's wetting their pants with excitement. Don't get me wrong, I didn't trust LB as far as the collective could throw him so the Italians taking over is good. However, until I see some substance to all of this fuore about a vision I will reserve my judgement on the new "Watford Mafia"!!! On a different note, very disappointed in Dyche being let go. I like Zola, one of the few gents in the game, but the new owners talk about "The Watford Way" yet they dispense with a pillar of the club without hesitation. I will support Mr Zola (if he is indeed to be the new coach?) but I disagree wholeheartedly with the Dyche decision.

Oh, and one last point. How long is it going to take before you lot start turning on the new owners when things aren't quite reaching your expectation levels??? Just asking....

Like the statement it has a nice feel, I would however liked to have seen an acknowledgement and a thank you to SD.

Frankie Frazer wrote:
This is what it's all about, we all have cause for optimism for the first time since the GT & ET era ! we will no longer have to work to the existing £5k max weekly wage budget and start competing realistically with other teams challenging for promotion! I don't think we should get ahead of ourselves as it may take a few years to build a team that will compete at the top but a long term owner with ambition is exactly what we needed !! Players will want to come to Watford when they hear what experience and success the Pozzos have had in the Italian & Spanish leagues.. I am as happy as a pig in poo !

Actually I think we will unless we start getting 20000 + crowds and our off field revenues increases as the rules change next year ? whereby each club must live within the revenue it generates.

I'm cautiously optimistic. It's all I can say after the last 10 years!

Puts Baz's saliva flecked rants into perspective, eh Corbyn?

There are rumors in Italian news that Zola would have a 4 years' contract at about 1M€ per year. I was surprised as such expenses are unusual for Pozzo family, then I realized why they do it and why they wanted Zola instead of SD (apart from the fact they know him and trust him).
Zola may cost 1M€, but probably he's worth double that sum in increased money from team sponsors!
Believe me, the Pozzo's know how to run a team keeping budget in good shape.

sherlock65 wrote:
There are rumors in Italian news that Zola would have a 4 years' contract at about 1M€ per year. I was surprised as such expenses are unusual for Pozzo family, then I realized why they do it and why they wanted Zola instead of SD (apart from the fact they know him and trust him).
Zola may cost 1M€, but probably he's worth double that sum in increased money from team sponsors!
Believe me, the Pozzo's know how to run a team keeping budget in good shape.

Elementary sir!

They certainly talk the talk and told us absolutely nothing to how they intend to begin their Watford project.
Sacking the manager and possibly coaching staff is a sort of start, I suppose.
Replacement??
Also, interesting to note that they are not in it for the money, only the passion. Football is a project and not a business. Try telling the Premier elite that.
Its also a game with over inflated wages and has become expensive to watch both armchair and stadia.
Be interested to see over the coming months whether, they keep to this statement.
Sorry, It all sounds to good to be true!

SpasticusAutisticus wrote:
I'm cautiously optimistic. It's all I can say after the last 10 years!

I Expect that's how most people will view this news!

sherlock65 wrote:
There are rumors in Italian news that Zola would have a 4 years' contract at about 1M€ per year. I was surprised as such expenses are unusual for Pozzo family, then I realized why they do it and why they wanted Zola instead of SD (apart from the fact they know him and trust him).
Zola may cost 1M€, but probably he's worth double that sum in increased money from team sponsors!
Believe me, the Pozzo's know how to run a team keeping budget in good shape.

Not sure The Happy Egg Co can stretch to that.

I am a Udinese supporter...(excuse my english)....i confirm that the Pozzo Team, in Italy is a model how to managing a football club (someone says Udinese=Money Machine): they buy young anonimous player(generally not talian) and after 2-3 years they sell players like Sanchez for €35milion....(this year Isla e Asamoh sells to Juventus, probaly Handanovic to Inter...totally 40 milion)...but many fans don't undersand, at this time, why we "fight" to arrive in 3d place (last year 4th) and after not buy a "expert player" to try to win something; then a question is "where are going all of the money that Udinese make?"
But one choice is sure: Mr. Pozzo is "friulano" before that "italiano" and this is a guaranty for a good work.
Good Luck Watford F.C.

gigi_ud wrote:
I am a Udinese supporter...(excuse my english)....i confirm that the Pozzo Team, in Italy is a model how to managing a football club (someone says Udinese=Money Machine): they buy young anonimous player(generally not talian) and after 2-3 years they sell players like Sanchez for €35milion....(this year Isla e Asamoh sells to Juventus, probaly Handanovic to Inter...totally 40 milion)...but many fans don't undersand, at this time, why we "fight" to arrive in 3d place (last year 4th) and after not buy a "expert player" to try to win something; then a question is "where are going all of the money that Udinese make?"
But one choice is sure: Mr. Pozzo is "friulano" before that "italiano" and this is a guaranty for a good work.
Good Luck Watford F.C.

LOL, so I'm not the only Udinese fan who registered on the site of the (forgive me!) not so famous WO, to share thoughts with the new brothers in the great fraternity of Udinese-Granada-Watf
ord.
Good luck to all of the three teams, in hope of a positive and fruitful sinergy!

I feel very sorry for Sean

Sean did a brilliant job for us better than Malkay and Judas the scouser ....!

I am sure Dychey will get a well paid job soon and be back in fooball where he belongs

The future for our club looks very good FORZA WATFORD....!

My only worry is why would they even want to buy a small club like ours.I feel they just want a play thing in england.

the happy egg company must surely be rubbing their hands.the exposure they will get now will be far greater than they envisaged.i doubt the pozzos had any involvement in the deal and i'm not sure how long we will have to wear the logo for,but i bet there would be loads of companies now vying to pay a hell of a lot more money to get on our shirts.talk about bad timing!!.also have we actually signed the keeper from cardiff?,if so i doubt that was sanctioned by the pozzos either.it will be interesting come the start of pre season training.mginn might not be wanted now(i bet he wished he signed a deal).troy deeney i'm sure will be sacked.and as for most of our existing players,i dont see zola wanting them.i for one am gutted for sd,but this is the cut throat buisness of football.hopefully wfc will do the honourable thing and pay him and the rest of the backroom staff off for what ammounted to a great season with the limited budget etc.cant wait for the season to start,i have a good feeling about it all.

Having now read the statement on the Watford FC website I must say that I am impressed. I did not want to see SD go (and I still don't) but sadly when the new owners come in, they almost always choose their line up, and sadly for us that means SD moving on, so SD just know that you will always be remembered as the manager who took a weakened side with many youngsters and made them push above their media pre-chosen weight. I genuinely hope that you get the chance to show your skills again and I am in no doubt that you will. Moving on to the Pozzo's, this was the most professional peice of communications to come out of Watford FC for the past five years, clear, well explained and with a degree of understanding fir the fans. Thank you Pozzo's. Interesting and hopefully exciting times ahead, although nothing is certain in football.

sherlock65 wrote:

gigi_ud wrote:
I am a Udinese supporter...(excuse my english)....i confirm that the Pozzo Team, in Italy is a model how to managing a football club (someone says Udinese=Money Machine): they buy young anonimous player(generally not talian) and after 2-3 years they sell players like Sanchez for €35milion....(this year Isla e Asamoh sells to Juventus, probaly Handanovic to Inter...totally 40 milion)...but many fans don't undersand, at this time, why we "fight" to arrive in 3d place (last year 4th) and after not buy a "expert player" to try to win something; then a question is "where are going all of the money that Udinese make?"
But one choice is sure: Mr. Pozzo is "friulano" before that "italiano" and this is a guaranty for a good work.
Good Luck Watford F.C.

LOL, so I'm not the only Udinese fan who registered on the site of the (forgive me!) not so famous WO, to share thoughts with the new brothers in the great fraternity of Udinese-Granada-Watf

ord.
Good luck to all of the three teams, in hope of a positive and fruitful sinergy!

And welcome to you. Hopefully adding a little of whatever Anglo Saxons have to add to your Latino mix.
Most of us are extremely happy with the takeover. The fact it is the proven template for long term success is in place makes us all the happier.
You may find those among us who do not like change, they are the minority. With a bit of luck we may attract some Anglo Italians to the Vic, to bolster our dwindling gates.
Be good to see some Amarni among the Primark!
FORZA THE NEW ALLIANCE

Stability

Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

lutondown wrote:

garston tony wrote:

lutondown wrote:

lutondown wrote:
Apart from BminusDerek the old clappers are conspicuous by their absence.
They have been in charge for what five days and have given more cause for optimism than we've had since the late seventies.
How Ffs can anyone criticise their lack of Comms after the last one trick Pony is beyond me.
As I suspect I think the small minded among us will look for the slightest thing to have a dig, possibly in revenge for how we sussed the limitations of Emporess Bas.
I suspect as we develop our ground, our standing, our fan base, the past hankerers will still be whining over our indifferent past and "values".
Freak em, I'm into the new
Welcome Il Pozzo and thank you for rescuing our little club

Pozzo, Pozzo
So good I posted twice!!

Ive posted on the other stories LD, not been absent ta v much.

I think its a vary valid point to make that its taken 6 days to get a statememt from the new owners, at least in the UK press that it but my digs in previous posts have been aimed at you and your mates pointing out your more than slight lack of consistency.

Once again youve mis judged the situation, just because we didnt join you in quite vile anti LB comments doesnt mean we arent excited about the new owners and the future.

Why on earth did you think I was referring to you? You don't even enter my thoughts you irrelevant peice of nothing.
And could you please remind me of my vile anti Bas posts....
Now stop thinking that the earth revolves around you and your pointless opinions in anything football or politics.
Now stop talking to me, your far too boring

Deary me, my mistake our world revolves round you doesnt it. science will be suprised to learn earth doesnt revolve round the sun but an obnoxious little turd who desires to be called after a town in bedfordshire.

Im wondering why you believe just because the Pozzo's bought the club this any proof that all the stuff you and your mates said about LB was right. and why do you ignore the fact that those of us who didnt join in your little game of making things up to slag the owner off were/are as happy as anyone else to see the Pozzo's arrive?

You should change your name to Ron L Hubbard, thats a far better reflection of who you are.

corbindallas wrote:
Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

Good post

corbindallas wrote:
Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

As regards this post...where exactly do you expect Watford to go..? You mention money not being put back into the club and just having to be happy with being in the Prem. are you seriously telling me you anticipate us pushing for a title ? laughable,those days are gone..they went in the 1980's football has changed for better or worse and clubs our size can never hope to win a Premier league title without a millionaire backer bloating a club beyond its true size and with that potentially going pop when the plug is pulled,we are a selling club,always have been always will be..if you want your club to push for trophies by re-investing the potential transfer revenue I suggest you find another club..Leeds or Forrest are looking to get Middle East backing,that is more your target.Meanwhile leave the rest of us glowing in the potential that the Pozzo's are offering us.All the best Sean you did a marvellous job

Long time reader of this website but I do not post because some of the rubbish on here is laughable and our "supporters" are a joke like the ones who were on Sky Sports News last night. Some of them didn't even know Sean Dyche's name.

Thank you Sean for keeping us up last season, you will never be forgotten and I hope you are back in football soon.

Welcome Mr Pozzo and his family.

This statement is exactly what we want to hear in every way. We are extremely grateful to have his team on board and if we can establish ourselves as a PL club in this day and age when cash is key you will not find me complaining. If we have to sell the crown jewels every now and again, who cares. Success for me would be measured in actually getting to the PL and if we were to become a yo-yo club for a while, I will gladly take that with both hands.

Let the good times roll...."Come on you 'Ornnnss"

Bye Bye Stewart wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

As regards this post...where exactly do you expect Watford to go..? You mention money not being put back into the club and just having to be happy with being in the Prem. are you seriously telling me you anticipate us pushing for a title ? laughable,those days are gone..they went in the 1980's football has changed for better or worse and clubs our size can never hope to win a Premier league title without a millionaire backer bloating a club beyond its true size and with that potentially going pop when the plug is pulled,we are a selling club,always have been always will be..if you want your club to push for trophies by re-investing the potential transfer revenue I suggest you find another club..Leeds or Forrest are looking to get Middle East backing,that is more your target.Meanwhile leave the rest of us glowing in the potential that the Pozzo's are offering us.All the best Sean you did a marvellous job

Don't know you Stewart but that was one excellent post you made there. Corby is a little bit negative in his post, methinks. I doubt that there is a single Watford fan out there that even dreams about Champions League footie or winning the Prem. Absolutely ludicrous ! I would be ecstatic for the rest of my life just staying in the Prem a la Stoke, Spurs, Everton, Fulham etc. A big, Watford welcome to The Pozzo's and to all Udinese and Granada posters on this site. I can't wait for the next 2 months progress reports and for the season to begin. I'm reet fired-up, lad.

hate l***n wrote:
Long time reader of this website but I do not post because some of the rubbish on here is laughable and our "supporters" are a joke like the ones who were on Sky Sports News last night. Some of them didn't even know Sean Dyche's name.

Thank you Sean for keeping us up last season, you will never be forgotten and I hope you are back in football soon.

Welcome Mr Pozzo and his family.

This statement is exactly what we want to hear in every way. We are extremely grateful to have his team on board and if we can establish ourselves as a PL club in this day and age when cash is key you will not find me complaining. If we have to sell the crown jewels every now and again, who cares. Success for me would be measured in actually getting to the PL and if we were to become a yo-yo club for a while, I will gladly take that with both hands.

Let the good times roll...."Come on you 'Ornnnss"

hatel***n, with a name like that and an intelligent post like yours, you should be a regular contributor to this website forum. We need all the balance we can get. Welcome.

First off the statement reads well and invery general terms must give us hope.

However the sacking of Sean Dyche seems contrary to local opinion and I am not sure the action sits comfortably with local values.

However, hopefully Zola will surprise us as much as Sean did.

As for luton etc please tell me exactly what Bas did so badly for the club.

it appears that he found the Pozzos through ScottD...local hero GT and co after a year found Bas.

He kept the politics out of sight cept when GT shot his mouth off. Before Bas the night of the long knives was a fairly regular event at WFC.

Perhaps the odd fact from the detractors of Bas might have helped their cause and equally the open armed welcome to the pozzos needs to be tempered with restraint as Zola's past record is as questionable as other peoples past that they rattle on about.

Would love to be a steady premiership club with good players, good crowds and watching good football every week. How could anybody not be happy with that! Been sais before Corby why don't you disappear with that slime ball Bas ?

I just did a translation of "come on you hornets" and it comes out as "venire su di voi calabroni". Anyone agree or disagree?
VSDVC

Last time we had someone with 2 z's in the name working for us they were stabbed! (Paulo Vernazza). Fingers crossed those days are over.

josh2126 wrote:
My only worry is why would they even want to buy a small club like ours.I feel they just want a play thing in england.

Absolutely amazing. Please tell me, on what evidence are you actually basing this on?

By the way, "gut feel" is not an appropriate answer.

When Gold took over at West Ham he said they were in a total mess. Are these 2 gents from West Ham responsible?

petsoundsnick wrote:

josh2126 wrote: My only worry is why would they even want to buy a small club like ours.I feel they just want a play thing in england.

Absolutely amazing. Please tell me, on what evidence are you actually basing this on? By the way, "gut feel" is not an appropriate answer.

Can you tell that to Buckler and his mates?

Agree with you, think the Pozzo's are serious about this. They may be rich but dont think they need a 'play thing' like Abramovich or the Man City owner.

Do happen to think long term if all goes to their plan (ie premiership club year on year) they will certainly make a profit.

Corbindallas was factually correct but I agree that Watford will not be pushing for the Prem title (although we can hope) but will probably follow the Udinese route which to be honest doesnt sound that bad either. The occassional foray into European cup competitions would be great

garston tony wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

Good post

crap post

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

garston tony wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

Good post

crap post

Realistic post, cant blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem and selling its best players.

After all isnt that one of the major complaints when LB was owner, that the club was a selling club? Thats not going to change, it seems many people havent cottoned onto that fact yet. We'll just be a selling club in the Prem!

SAHornet wrote:

Bye Bye Stewart wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

As regards this post...where exactly do you expect Watford to go..? You mention money not being put back into the club and just having to be happy with being in the Prem. are you seriously telling me you anticipate us pushing for a title ? laughable,those days are gone..they went in the 1980's football has changed for better or worse and clubs our size can never hope to win a Premier league title without a millionaire backer bloating a club beyond its true size and with that potentially going pop when the plug is pulled,we are a selling club,always have been always will be..if you want your club to push for trophies by re-investing the potential transfer revenue I suggest you find another club..Leeds or Forrest are looking to get Middle East backing,that is more your target.Meanwhile leave the rest of us glowing in the potential that the Pozzo's are offering us.All the best Sean you did a marvellous job

Don't know you Stewart but that was one excellent post you made there. Corby is a little bit negative in his post, methinks. I doubt that there is a single Watford fan out there that even dreams about Champions League footie or winning the Prem. Absolutely ludicrous ! I would be ecstatic for the rest of my life just staying in the Prem a la Stoke, Spurs, Everton, Fulham etc. A big, Watford welcome to The Pozzo's and to all Udinese and Granada posters on this site. I can't wait for the next 2 months progress reports and for the season to begin. I'm reet fired-up, lad.

How can pointing out the facts be negative? Going on the basis of Udinese and Granada's model is what has been said is happening, so I thought I would spell out what that means for Watford, if that makes it negative to you then so be it this is what it is. I do not agree that Watford fans have no dream of winning, what's the point if you only want your team to be a survivor year in year out, now that's negative! I guess being in SA and not actually supporting the team at the ground game in game out gives you a big voice to come on here and slag opinions off with no merits to it! Heres a statement all your posts are cr*p!I know they are all not but you get my drift on your response. As for Stewart, only glory hunters jump from club to club clearly by your post you study this subject so must be one, thanks but I don't need any snotty nosed kid telling me what I am thinking or to do, I was probably plodding the beat when you were still swimming around a b*ll*ck, which incidentally is what you speak, with a s on the end. Buckler Buckler Bucker when are you going to take your own advice.

garstontony and Corby sticking up for each other, isn't it nice! Awh they found love on a Watford FC forum, lovely!

Corby, you fought profusely to back Bas when others slated him for bad PR (and I agreed with you).

Now you whinge about the Pozzo's not giving enough information. Can you see the irony?

buckler wrote:
garstontony and Corby sticking up for each other, isn't it nice! Awh they found love on a Watford FC forum, lovely!

It was you Buckles and Muttondown who gave me the pet name Corby now that's true love! Now stop it your sounding jealous!

garston tony wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

garston tony wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

Good post

crap post

Realistic post, cant blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem and selling its best players.

After all isnt that one of the major complaints when LB was owner, that the club was a selling club? Thats not going to change, it seems many people havent cottoned onto that fact yet. We'll just be a selling club in the Prem!

What planet are you on? I mean, seriously, did you discover football last week?

There, has never, except for 3 or so years in the early 80's, been a time when we were not a selling club.

A selling club in the Prem? I DREAM of us being that. Most Prem clubs are selling clubs these days, there's maybe 6 or 7 that aren't.

"Can't blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem?" - we only have three quarters of a stadium you plank. You should be turning cartwheels at even the remotest possibility of us surviving in the Prem. I'm over the moon that we might just possibly be in the play-off hunt this year. That's realistic.

luther blissett wrote:
Corby, you fought profusely to back Bas when others slated him for bad PR (and I agreed with you).

Now you whinge about the Pozzo's not giving enough information. Can you see the irony?

2 wrongs don't make a right, and in fairness, I did state action speak louder than words in Bassini's case and was also stating his PR was cr*p. But the Pozzo's are supposed to be pros in this game compared to Bassini so was hoping for a different approach.

buckler wrote:
garstontony and Corby sticking up for each other, isn't it nice! Awh they found love on a Watford FC forum, lovely!

Well, you've got you're little hareem havent you. Why shouldnt i? ;-)

What exactly is your problem (and i'm not talking about the one that means you need regular visits to your schools nurse)?

You wanted LB out, he's gone. Doesnt make you right about him which is the assumption you and your concubines are making. But yes we disagreed on LB but we're all happy about the new owners and excited about the future for the club, yet you still act like a child.

Oh, thats because you are one. Silly me

Colin West's mullet wrote:

garston tony wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

garston tony wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

Good post

crap post

Realistic post, cant blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem and selling its best players.

After all isnt that one of the major complaints when LB was owner, that the club was a selling club? Thats not going to change, it seems many people havent cottoned onto that fact yet. We'll just be a selling club in the Prem!

What planet are you on? I mean, seriously, did you discover football last week?

There, has never, except for 3 or so years in the early 80's, been a time when we were not a selling club.

A selling club in the Prem? I DREAM of us being that. Most Prem clubs are selling clubs these days, there's maybe 6 or 7 that aren't.

"Can't blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem?" - we only have three quarters of a stadium you plank. You should be turning cartwheels at even the remotest possibility of us surviving in the Prem. I'm over the moon that we might just possibly be in the play-off hunt this year. That's realistic.

Wow nice comments (plank), I can't see anywhere anyone not being delighted at the prospect of being a Prem club, obviously we all have different levels of were we go once there so don't get your beef with this, my post was highlighting the Pozzo's model actually meaning, christ why don't people get this????

Colin West's mullet wrote:

garston tony wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

garston tony wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

Good post

crap post

Realistic post, cant blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem and selling its best players. After all isnt that one of the major complaints when LB was owner, that the club was a selling club? Thats not going to change, it seems many people havent cottoned onto that fact yet. We'll just be a selling club in the Prem!

What planet are you on? I mean, seriously, did you discover football last week? There, has never, except for 3 or so years in the early 80's, been a time when we were not a selling club. A selling club in the Prem? I DREAM of us being that. Most Prem clubs are selling clubs these days, there's maybe 6 or 7 that aren't. "Can't blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem?" - we only have three quarters of a stadium you plank. You should be turning cartwheels at even the remotest possibility of us surviving in the Prem. I'm over the moon that we might just possibly be in the play-off hunt this year. That's realistic.

Colin, i've been reading the posts on this site for some time and one of the major complaints IS that the club was/is selling players. People have slatted LB for the players sold under his ownership but the same people appear to now understand that is what the club does. An immediate about face!

Secondly yes many of us would be happy to just be a Prem club, but Corbin was not wrong to say that even if we attain that status it will be frustrating to see our best players sold year after year. See above paragraph. Whilst I know why the club has always been a selling one and appreciate it, even in the best of days in recent years we sold Ashley Young, it doesnt mean you have to like it does it?

We're on the same side, there's no need for all the nonsense abuse

buckler wrote:
garstontony and Corby sticking up for each other, isn't it nice! Awh they found love on a Watford FC forum, lovely!

Ha ha, oh the irony of that! with you and your little coterie fluttering your eyelashes, and flexing your muscles at each other all the time. Caressing your banners and keeping each other warm with your secret knowledge... I think it's great, don't get me wrong, but get a room, boys, get a room.

just one cornetto , give it to me, we'll get promoted, with the help of Italy, their wallets are bigger than any snail, with cornet & lutondown up front, watford cannot fail. la la la la

garston tony wrote:

Colin West's mullet wrote:

garston tony wrote:

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

garston tony wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

Good post

crap post

Realistic post, cant blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem and selling its best players. After all isnt that one of the major complaints when LB was owner, that the club was a selling club? Thats not going to change, it seems many people havent cottoned onto that fact yet. We'll just be a selling club in the Prem!

What planet are you on? I mean, seriously, did you discover football last week? There, has never, except for 3 or so years in the early 80's, been a time when we were not a selling club. A selling club in the Prem? I DREAM of us being that. Most Prem clubs are selling clubs these days, there's maybe 6 or 7 that aren't. "Can't blame him for wanting more than Watford surviving in the Prem?" - we only have three quarters of a stadium you plank. You should be turning cartwheels at even the remotest possibility of us surviving in the Prem. I'm over the moon that we might just possibly be in the play-off hunt this year. That's realistic.

Colin, i've been reading the posts on this site for some time and one of the major complaints IS that the club was/is selling players. People have slatted LB for the players sold under his ownership but the same people appear to now understand that is what the club does. An immediate about face!

Secondly yes many of us would be happy to just be a Prem club, but Corbin was not wrong to say that even if we attain that status it will be frustrating to see our best players sold year after year. See above paragraph. Whilst I know why the club has always been a selling one and appreciate it, even in the best of days in recent years we sold Ashley Young, it doesnt mean you have to like it does it?

We're on the same side, there's no need for all the nonsense abuse

I loved Ashley Young, but £10m was more useful to the club at the time. I was happy with the deal.

Of all the complaints about that clown Baz (and they were many, and mostly fair) I'm not aware that us selling our best players was one of them. We sold Graham & Sordell (no-one else of note, in fact we turned down bids for Mapps) who both wanted to go to the Prem. There was not a sinlge Championship side that would have held on to those players.

welcome to WFC, all Pozzos and our new Udinese and Granada brothers (and sisters, i hope;)...excellent news

if Italy are know as the azzuri, because they wear blue, are we now the goldzzuri..??

There WERE plenty of people moaning about the same of DG and WB and MS. 'Why do we need to sell', 'the club lacks ambition' and so on, when as you yourself have point out that apart from one or two exceptional periods Watford have always been a selling one.

And the club didnt need the money for AY, we just werent 'big' enough to keep him. Now, with the new owners and maybe a 'celebrity' manager our standing will increase but that just means (if the Udinese route is followed) we'll be selling player for bigger prices to bigger clubs

corbindallas wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

Bye Bye Stewart wrote:

corbindallas wrote: Sorry I know you miss my comments, but some of us have a life you know other than sitting here all day on the comment board, ok that's not completely true. Nice statement that was eventually made, why this couldn't have been put out after the staff meeting or even on the day of confirmation of ownership is beyond me, why no mention of Sean Dyche, has he been sacked and if so what's the secret about it or is the above to try and appease the easy minds first, also what's happening to Ross Wilson a key member of staff for good forward continuity for the club? Some bit's about not making a profit is rubbish, the Udinese and Granada way is exactly that and let me put that exactly how it is, they do not keep hold of their star players, as a business they will sell anyone for what they see as a good profit, this is something that has always happened at Watford as a selling club and will continue so no change there then, I also point out that millions have been generated at Udinese from player sales and NOT ploughed back into the club, FACT, their fans are very frustrated by this as it means the club is not achieving the potential it could have to be say ChampionsLeague winners,or even League winners, it's aim is to just remain in the league as high as possible to highlight players values. Now this is fine if you ambition for Watford is to be a Premiership club every year full stop, and on the plus side this is more than we are achieving now, but it is very frustrating watching your best produced talent being sold off. The Watford project is going to cost a lot to start with so hopefully we will see benefits from the start especially on the infrastructure, also I have to pick up on the 3 references to respecting the England & English understanding above, as clearly this is not the immediate way forward otherwise we would have retained our English Manager and English back room staff, not a problem as Italians own us now they can do it their way with their staff, just don't insult us with references that are not true, you already have released a statement to the Italian press stating English Managers are not as good as Italians Managers so stick by it and stop the massaging of info! At the end of the day it is great to see new owners with this pedigree and finances that will progress the club further, however it also means we will have more different frustrations in the long run and expectations that might not fully mature at a higher level than before!

As regards this post...where exactly do you expect Watford to go..? You mention money not being put back into the club and just having to be happy with being in the Prem. are you seriously telling me you anticipate us pushing for a title ? laughable,those days are gone..they went in the 1980's football has changed for better or worse and clubs our size can never hope to win a Premier league title without a millionaire backer bloating a club beyond its true size and with that potentially going pop when the plug is pulled,we are a selling club,always have been always will be..if you want your club to push for trophies by re-investing the potential transfer revenue I suggest you find another club..Leeds or Forrest are looking to get Middle East backing,that is more your target.Meanwhile leave the rest of us glowing in the potential that the Pozzo's are offering us.All the best Sean you did a marvellous job

Don't know you Stewart but that was one excellent post you made there. Corby is a little bit negative in his post, methinks. I doubt that there is a single Watford fan out there that even dreams about Champions League footie or winning the Prem. Absolutely ludicrous ! I would be ecstatic for the rest of my life just staying in the Prem a la Stoke, Spurs, Everton, Fulham etc. A big, Watford welcome to The Pozzo's and to all Udinese and Granada posters on this site. I can't wait for the next 2 months progress reports and for the season to begin. I'm reet fired-up, lad.

How can pointing out the facts be negative? Going on the basis of Udinese and Granada's model is what has been said is happening, so I thought I would spell out what that means for Watford, if that makes it negative to you then so be it this is what it is. I do not agree that Watford fans have no dream of winning, what's the point if you only want your team to be a survivor year in year out, now that's negative! I guess being in SA and not actually supporting the team at the ground game in game out gives you a big voice to come on here and slag opinions off with no merits to it! Heres a statement all your posts are cr*p!I know they are all not but you get my drift on your response. As for Stewart, only glory hunters jump from club to club clearly by your post you study this subject so must be one, thanks but I don't need any snotty nosed kid telling me what I am thinking or to do, I was probably plodding the beat when you were still swimming around a b*ll*ck, which incidentally is what you speak, with a s on the end. Buckler Buckler Bucker when are you going to take your own advice.

I am at work otherwise I would be happy to tear your verbally limb from limb...Glory hunter - I have been going to watch Watford FC since 1973 a Season ticket holder since 1978..if you seriously believe Watford supporters go into a season thinking we are going to win something you are tuly deluded..true Watford supporters go into each season hoping for survival of club and in division,plus the hope of entertainment along the way..as I stated previously if it is trophies you seek...head North..a long way North..enjoy

given the choice who would you rather ran our club?
pozzo or sbazzo
i vote pozzo end of.

garston tony wrote:
There WERE plenty of people moaning about the same of DG and WB and MS. 'Why do we need to sell', 'the club lacks ambition' and so on, when as you yourself have point out that apart from one or two exceptional periods Watford have always been a selling one. And the club didnt need the money for AY, we just werent 'big' enough to keep him. Now, with the new owners and maybe a 'celebrity' manager our standing will increase but that just means (if the Udinese route is followed) we'll be selling player for bigger prices to bigger clubs

absolutely correct - Ajax are a selling club but they sell to the best clubs in Europe (mostly) and for a premium. With them as with Udinese there is an understanding that they will make their name and be sold at a profit and then everyone wins. With Watfords previous position we HAD to sell to survive and therein is the difference. If we could keep each player for a year longer then the team result should improve propelling the club higher and increasing the sale value of the player. Also if we are in the premier then the resale value is increased because players are proven top flight players with experience (how much would danny graham be worth after one or even two seasons in the prem)

The fact that the owners have even stated that they want the clubs to retain their own identity, contact with community and reiterated the importannce of the academy is like winning the euro lottery as far as I am concerned.

People saying words are easy are missing the point that this time yesterday people wanted to have a statement of intent and now we have one with bells on!

Other than the inevitable departure of Sean Dyche it is all good news.

COYH!

I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round.

The Pozzos had me at Premiership.

stevyweavy wrote:
I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.

What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.

Oh dear, the guy above is a bit delushional, We, even at our peak under Taylor only averaged 19,500 in our very first season in the 1st div and then apart from a 18,300 2 seasons later the crowds dropped year on year to between 10,000 and 12,000, what we get now, in my book this unfortunately only makes us slightly larger than a small club. But who gives a monkeys its now that counts and success will bring people back

ESERCITO GIALLO!!

FORZA CALABRONI!!

rogeruk wrote:

stevyweavy wrote: I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.

What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.

I think you need to get a reality check there is nothing negative about my comments. I am a loyal season ticket holder, I have supported Watford through all the GT era and yes they were great times but we were and still are a small club with small finances compared to most other clubs. As our official ground capacity was never higher than 26000 your comments are way off the mark. I believe we did have unofficially 29000 fo one cup match when we still had terraces but we have never averaged over 20000 in a season. I enjoy watching Watford I like hoping for more but am realistic enough to know what we can expect. If the Pozzo family plans to have us firmly placed as a Premiership club then that is at a higher level than we have been before other than a few fleeting appearances. So I guess I am the lucky one to have a small mind rather than a small brain.

peter10531089 wrote:

garston tony wrote:
There WERE plenty of people moaning about the same of DG and WB and MS. 'Why do we need to sell', 'the club lacks ambition' and so on, when as you yourself have point out that apart from one or two exceptional periods Watford have always been a selling one. And the club didnt need the money for AY, we just werent 'big' enough to keep him. Now, with the new owners and maybe a 'celebrity' manager our standing will increase but that just means (if the Udinese route is followed) we'll be selling player for bigger prices to bigger clubs

absolutely correct - Ajax are a selling club but they sell to the best clubs in Europe (mostly) and for a premium. With them as with Udinese there is an understanding that they will make their name and be sold at a profit and then everyone wins. With Watfords previous position we HAD to sell to survive and therein is the difference. If we could keep each player for a year longer then the team result should improve propelling the club higher and increasing the sale value of the player. Also if we are in the premier then the resale value is increased because players are proven top flight players with experience (how much would danny graham be worth after one or even two seasons in the prem)

The fact that the owners have even stated that they want the clubs to retain their own identity, contact with community and reiterated the importannce of the academy is like winning the euro lottery as far as I am concerned.

People saying words are easy are missing the point that this time yesterday people wanted to have a statement of intent and now we have one with bells on!

Other than the inevitable departure of Sean Dyche it is all good news.

COYH!

At last some maturity - spot on Peter.

stevyweavy says...
1:23pm Wed 4 Jul 12

rogeruk wrote:

stevyweavy wrote: I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.I think you need to get a reality check there is nothing negative about my comments. I am a loyal season ticket holder, I have supported Watford through all the GT era and yes they were great times but we were and still are a small club with small finances compared to most other clubs. As our official ground capacity was never higher than 26000 your comments are way off the mark. I believe we did have unofficially 29000 fo one cup match when we still had terraces but we have never averaged over 20000 in a season. I enjoy watching Watford I like hoping for more but am realistic enough to know what we can expect. If the Pozzo family plans to have us firmly placed as a Premiership club then that is at a higher level than we have been before other than a few fleeting appearances. So I guess I am the lucky one to have a small mind rather than a small brain.”

We had 34,000 against Man U in a cup match in the late 60s.

It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today.
Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2168390/Gi
anfranco-Zola-faces-
Watford-backlash-Sea
n-Dyche-sacking.html
#ixzz1zetJ5Bff

corbindallas wrote:
It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today. Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2168390/Gi anfranco-Zola-faces- Watford-backlash-Sea n-Dyche-sacking.html #ixzz1zetJ5Bff

Its going to be interesting how the rest of the close season is going to go. Hope this story of a player backlash is slightly out of proportion but its fair enough if they liked SD and feel he hasnt been given a gnats chance with the new owners.
Again, could possibly point at poor communication but i'm sure once things settle down and people are in place this will be seen as a blip.

On that note, pre season starts soon doesnt it and the season is going to be here before we know it. Hope they can get moving to get everything and everyone in needed asap. I wonder if Zola is looking over the Udinese players available for loan to see who could cut it in the Championship?

corbindallas wrote:
It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today.
Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday.

Read more: http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2168390/Gi

anfranco-Zola-faces-

Watford-backlash-Sea

n-Dyche-sacking.html

#ixzz1zetJ5Bff

The backlash you talk about was 2 tweets, 1 from Bolton's super sub Sordell and the other from Danny Graham! Both who now have nothing to do with Watford and should keep noses out of it! Would think most players will keep mouths shut and hope they figure in new exciting plans! Ps sorry Loach and Yeates.

buckler wrote:

corbindallas wrote: It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today. Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2168390/Gi anfranco-Zola-faces- Watford-backlash-Sea n-Dyche-sacking.html #ixzz1zetJ5Bff

The backlash you talk about was 2 tweets, 1 from Bolton's super sub Sordell and the other from Danny Graham! Both who now have nothing to do with Watford and should keep noses out of it! Would think most players will keep mouths shut and hope they figure in new exciting plans! Ps sorry Loach and Yeates.

Indeed, the only player I would seriously worry if he backlashed would be Sean Murray, the others had better get their heads down and start brushing up on their ball control.

Rodney Green's Green Gloves wrote:
stevyweavy says... 1:23pm Wed 4 Jul 12 rogeruk wrote: stevyweavy wrote: I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.I think you need to get a reality check there is nothing negative about my comments. I am a loyal season ticket holder, I have supported Watford through all the GT era and yes they were great times but we were and still are a small club with small finances compared to most other clubs. As our official ground capacity was never higher than 26000 your comments are way off the mark. I believe we did have unofficially 29000 fo one cup match when we still had terraces but we have never averaged over 20000 in a season. I enjoy watching Watford I like hoping for more but am realistic enough to know what we can expect. If the Pozzo family plans to have us firmly placed as a Premiership club then that is at a higher level than we have been before other than a few fleeting appearances. So I guess I am the lucky one to have a small mind rather than a small brain.” We had 34,000 against Man U in a cup match in the late 60s.

I stand corrected but in my defense that wasbefore my time and before modern crowd safety regulations were introduced. But again we are looking at one off cup matches rather than average league attendances.

Tony.........I had him the other day........****....
...I just wanted to put 100th comment up really. Has dyche been sacked ??? everyone apart from WO and Watford FC seem to say so ?? not a lot coming out of the club at present......we cant sign or sell anyone if no one knows who will be in charge and we start to play again in a few weeks time ?? Is this all good news or not ?

jasonwatford wrote:
Id like to come and watch this time lutondown......and then we can go for that drink you couldnt manage last time coz you had to go home........All im saying is we have nothing offical from Buckler so we are all in the dark about the situation.

To be fair Jase I went home to watch England play, being the patriot I am ( to Italia!)
And from where I was standing, all you did was watch me last time!
Anyway enough of that nonsense
Be very glad to buy a brave heart a pint, but wouldn't hold my breath for the favour to be returned, heard you might have short arms and long pockets!
Now I've spoken in person to Buck, and he assures us we are going places. We will have a new stand, sexy football and no need to visit a chiropractor or the crick in the neck that hoof ball gives.
Now surely that is something to contemplate.
Oh by the way could I interest you in joining my cult? The scientoligsts? Apparently I am the one!
Best regards
ronny Hubbard

eh-ee-eh-e-oo
up the league we go
and when we get promoted
this is what we'll sing
we got pozzos, we got pozzos
we got pozzos bling!!!

Paul Gadd wrote:
eh-ee-eh-e-oo
up the league we go
and when we get promoted
this is what we'll sing
we got pozzos, we got pozzos
we got pozzos bling!!!

That's the spirit
Almost as good as the rendition of mother brown we used to sing and jump to in the Rookery, when it really was the Rookery, not a place for flasks and tartan blankets...and we're so tuff we cut the bobbles off our hats
...lol
Love Ronny L Hub

D.unstable wrote:

buckler wrote:

corbindallas wrote: It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today. Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2168390/Gi anfranco-Zola-faces- Watford-backlash-Sea n-Dyche-sacking.html #ixzz1zetJ5Bff

The backlash you talk about was 2 tweets, 1 from Bolton's super sub Sordell and the other from Danny Graham! Both who now have nothing to do with Watford and should keep noses out of it! Would think most players will keep mouths shut and hope they figure in new exciting plans! Ps sorry Loach and Yeates.

Indeed, the only player I would seriously worry if he backlashed would be Sean Murray, the others had better get their heads down and start brushing up on their ball control.

Spot on d downs!
The prospect of seeing Football being the standard instead of hybrid Football/ Rugby is exciting!
And what the f has what goes on at our club got to do with that bench warmer Sordell?

rogeruk wrote:

stevyweavy wrote:
I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.

What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.

I remember those days, sadly a lot of fans were pushed away as unwanted.
We never saw ourselves as small, that come later with the family club image.
Hopefully the passion I remember returns with a vengeance

corbindallas wrote:
It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today. Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2168390/Gi anfranco-Zola-faces- Watford-backlash-Sea n-Dyche-sacking.html #ixzz1zetJ5Bff

I remember there was uproar when Lewington got sacked, we were in the prem a season and a half later!

He was soon forgotton!

4boys wrote:
Oh dear, the guy above is a bit delushional, We, even at our peak under Taylor only averaged 19,500 in our very first season in the 1st div and then apart from a 18,300 2 seasons later the crowds dropped year on year to between 10,000 and 12,000, what we get now, in my book this unfortunately only makes us slightly larger than a small club. But who gives a monkeys its now that counts and success will bring people back

So many chavs on here, you define a a club by the attendance.
Sunderland get about 30000 and half of them pay about 50p to get in.

I can't be bothered with you its not worth the effort!

I haven't posted on here for some years. I was a season ticket holder since the 80's until 2008, but as I have retired I now live somewhere sunnier than the UK and only get back a half a dozen times a year for matches, though both home and away. From an overseas perspective this is surely the best thing to have happened to Watford FC in a generation. So we need to look forward, but at the same time keep our feet on the ground. This is a long term project, the first we've had for many years. The past is the past. We now have football people in charge. They will grow to love the Horns, particularly if promotion to the PL is achieved quickly, as aside from kudos, they stand to make a lot of money if they can blood the product from their much vaunted scouting network. For the first time in a long time, we will be attractive to young players who will be looking at the long term rather than the early buck like bench warmer Sordell. This takeover is just in the nick of time, as the recent rule changes concerning our academy would have meant all local talent being hoovered up by the likes of Manu etc. The carping on this forum is not helpful. We all love the 'golden boys' and need to put aside our differences and let bygones be bygones. Its sad about Dyche, (if it's true..stranger things have happened), but Zola will attract players from a different level. Early days, but exciting none the less. I'm off to add a Udinese shirt ,(I think its sold locally) to my clutch of Yella's. COYH's

rogeruk wrote:

4boys wrote:
Oh dear, the guy above is a bit delushional, We, even at our peak under Taylor only averaged 19,500 in our very first season in the 1st div and then apart from a 18,300 2 seasons later the crowds dropped year on year to between 10,000 and 12,000, what we get now, in my book this unfortunately only makes us slightly larger than a small club. But who gives a monkeys its now that counts and success will bring people back

So many chavs on here, you define a a club by the attendance.
Sunderland get about 30000 and half of them pay about 50p to get in.

I can't be bothered with you its not worth the effort!

We never got average gates of 10-12k in the old first division. We averaged 11000 on our promotion from div4
And they increased as we rose through the divisions. GT was hell bent on a family club image and discouraged the more raucous from attending. We are not a big city club, but drop this daft self important image we have for ourselves, play proper football in a decent ground and the fans will come.
Now time r some self
rogering yuk

lutondown wrote:

D.unstable wrote:

buckler wrote:

corbindallas wrote: It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today. Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2168390/Gi anfranco-Zola-faces- Watford-backlash-Sea n-Dyche-sacking.html #ixzz1zetJ5Bff

The backlash you talk about was 2 tweets, 1 from Bolton's super sub Sordell and the other from Danny Graham! Both who now have nothing to do with Watford and should keep noses out of it! Would think most players will keep mouths shut and hope they figure in new exciting plans! Ps sorry Loach and Yeates.

Indeed, the only player I would seriously worry if he backlashed would be Sean Murray, the others had better get their heads down and start brushing up on their ball control.

Spot on d downs!
The prospect of seeing Football being the standard instead of hybrid Football/ Rugby is exciting!
And what the f has what goes on at our club got to do with that bench warmer Sordell?

my old scummer down are you not aware that now the big time benchwarmer is an Olympian he is going to the very top, Piers Morgan show next week.

A bit like asking Deeney if he likes sugar on his porridge, don't care

garston tony wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
It appears not only the fans are unhappy at Dyches sacking, this is in the Daily Mail today. Gianfranco Zola's first job as Watford boss will be to quell a player backlash after Sean Dyche was ruthlessly sacked on Tuesday. Read more: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2168390/Gi anfranco-Zola-faces- Watford-backlash-Sea n-Dyche-sacking.html #ixzz1zetJ5Bff

Its going to be interesting how the rest of the close season is going to go. Hope this story of a player backlash is slightly out of proportion but its fair enough if they liked SD and feel he hasnt been given a gnats chance with the new owners.
Again, could possibly point at poor communication but i'm sure once things settle down and people are in place this will be seen as a blip.

On that note, pre season starts soon doesnt it and the season is going to be here before we know it. Hope they can get moving to get everything and everyone in needed asap. I wonder if Zola is looking over the Udinese players available for loan to see who could cut it in the Championship?

new owners with money, a club with an instantly higher profile, massively increased chances of play-off contention...yep, all the foundations for a huge player revolt.

lutondown wrote:

rogeruk wrote:

stevyweavy wrote:
I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.

What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.

I remember those days, sadly a lot of fans were pushed away as unwanted.
We never saw ourselves as small, that come later with the family club image.
Hopefully the passion I remember returns with a vengeance

eh? GT's regime was the creator of the 'family club' image. The Family Terrace, The Family Enclosure, first family open days, community engagement etc...we were ahead of the herd in this respect and GT/Ej were the instigators.

There's nothing wrong with this by the way, and it has absolutely nothing to do with our 'small club' image.

We ARE a small club,albeit one which has punched above its way periodically. I could give you a list of reasons that make us a small club, or you could just look at our average attendances.

Colin West's mullet wrote:

lutondown wrote:

rogeruk wrote:

stevyweavy wrote:
I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.

What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.

I remember those days, sadly a lot of fans were pushed away as unwanted.
We never saw ourselves as small, that come later with the family club image.
Hopefully the passion I remember returns with a vengeance

eh? GT's regime was the creator of the 'family club' image. The Family Terrace, The Family Enclosure, first family open days, community engagement etc...we were ahead of the herd in this respect and GT/Ej were the instigators.

There's nothing wrong with this by the way, and it has absolutely nothing to do with our 'small club' image.

We ARE a small club,albeit one which has punched above its way periodically. I could give you a list of reasons that make us a small club, or you could just look at our average attendances.

How many fans do we lose to London clubs? Why is it that youngsters are happy to wear the colours of another club rather than their local side? Of course we are not a big club, but we definetly have the potential to being somewhere in the middle.
We have always managed better crowds then Luton who have a much larger population.
As for the family image, that's fine, but I wish there was more passion towards the club.
Graham Taylor once said Watford fans are not by nature fanatical, they just like their football. I remember days when Elton Johns appearance on the pitch after we whopped Reading 5-0 nigh causing a riot. The passion was there in droves, and our attendances were decent. So I think we are capable of recapturing some of that, and I think the last week is the first step forward.
Sorry bobbles, gotta think big

lutondown wrote:

Colin West's mullet wrote:

lutondown wrote:

rogeruk wrote:

stevyweavy wrote:
I do not understand all this fuss about us being a selling club. Yes we do sell players but mostly we sell players rather than letting them go on a free. Danny Graham had a sale clause in his contract so we could not have kept him and he wanted to better himself in fact he was honourable because he did not force the move thereby we got more than the sale clause in his contract. Sordell would not sign a new contract so we maximised our money on him - I doubt he will ever sell on for more than we got for him. Buckley was the only one recently that we cashed in on and £1m for him which at the time looked cheap but now looks like it may have been a good piece of business as he still cannot get a regular starting place. Ashley Young was good business at the time. He cost us nothing and he had started to stagnate at Watford - he needed a bigger stage to better himself. So yes we sell players but to date I do not think it has been to the detriment of the club. We are a small club and can only survive by having a solid squad - you need five to six star players to be a mega club which we are never going to have at the same time so when we uncover a jewel we nurture them and then let them fly and it then unables us to get another five or six squad players and hopefully one or two of them progress (aka Danny Graham) and so the cycle goes round. The Pozzos had me at Premiership.

What a negative half empty fan you are. In GT's time Watford regularly had 27000 fans at games. We are not a small club, but we do have small minded fans like you, maybe you should start supporting Luton in the Conference.

I remember those days, sadly a lot of fans were pushed away as unwanted.
We never saw ourselves as small, that come later with the family club image.
Hopefully the passion I remember returns with a vengeance

eh? GT's regime was the creator of the 'family club' image. The Family Terrace, The Family Enclosure, first family open days, community engagement etc...we were ahead of the herd in this respect and GT/Ej were the instigators.

There's nothing wrong with this by the way, and it has absolutely nothing to do with our 'small club' image.

We ARE a small club,albeit one which has punched above its way periodically. I could give you a list of reasons that make us a small club, or you could just look at our average attendances.

How many fans do we lose to London clubs? Why is it that youngsters are happy to wear the colours of another club rather than their local side? Of course we are not a big club, but we definetly have the potential to being somewhere in the middle.
We have always managed better crowds then Luton who have a much larger population.
As for the family image, that's fine, but I wish there was more passion towards the club.
Graham Taylor once said Watford fans are not by nature fanatical, they just like their football. I remember days when Elton Johns appearance on the pitch after we whopped Reading 5-0 nigh causing a riot. The passion was there in droves, and our attendances were decent. So I think we are capable of recapturing some of that, and I think the last week is the first step forward.
Sorry bobbles, gotta think big

what's with the bobbles bit?

you won't catch me with a daft hat and a clappy stick.

Our fans don't turn up, and when they do they don't sing. You don't have to like it (I don't) but there's no point shooting the messenger.

Lol
Not you Westy, you wouldn't get it over that mullet of yours!
Point is there was a time they did make a noise. It was discouraged by over zealous policing and the great GTs desire to rid the club of certain elements.
It was not just Hoolis who b uggered Orf!

If all goes well those of us who don't remember too much of the late 70s through the 80s at Watford will have some of what our elders had then... It's very exciting... Can't wait for the season to kick off...

watford1881 wrote:
If all goes well those of us who don't remember too much of the late 70s through the 80s at Watford will have some of what our elders had then... It's very exciting... Can't wait for the season to kick off...

Mate if it's half of that it will be great
Pre Elton John our highlights were a few seasons in the then Division two, and beating Stoke and Liverpool only to get whipped by Chelsea in the FA cup semi finals. Then come the real dire years. Bonser out, George Kirby and co, division four before lift off.
I was a young training soldier when we beat Man U in the FA cup and it seems like all the other lads in Bassingbourne barracks were straight off the Stratford end. Next morning at breakfast in my army issue track suit with Watford FC blazoned across the back in crude felt pen, I felt the derision off half of Manchester.
We had arrived!
Sorry for the reminisce!

Wonder what ELTON is saying about all this.

lutondown wrote:

watford1881 wrote:
If all goes well those of us who don't remember too much of the late 70s through the 80s at Watford will have some of what our elders had then... It's very exciting... Can't wait for the season to kick off...

Mate if it's half of that it will be great
Pre Elton John our highlights were a few seasons in the then Division two, and beating Stoke and Liverpool only to get whipped by Chelsea in the FA cup semi finals. Then come the real dire years. Bonser out, George Kirby and co, division four before lift off.
I was a young training soldier when we beat Man U in the FA cup and it seems like all the other lads in Bassingbourne barracks were straight off the Stratford end. Next morning at breakfast in my army issue track suit with Watford FC blazoned across the back in crude felt pen, I felt the derision off half of Manchester.
We had arrived!
Sorry for the reminisce!

Great memory, I remember listen to Radio 2 on Medium wave that night as Luther put two in, what a great result. It was then shown on BBC1 Sportsnight with the legendary Harry Carpenter introducing the show. Good times indeed had arrived.