Loach completes Ipswich move (From Watford Observer)
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Scott Loach joins Ipswich Town from Watford
4:18pm Thursday 19th July 2012 in Sport
Scott Loach has joined Ipswich Town for an undisclosed fee. Picture: Action Images
Scott Loach has completed his move to Watford’s Championship rivals Ipswich Town.
The ‘keeper leaves the Vicarage Road club for an undisclosed fee and has signed a four-year contract with the Tractorboys.
Although the fee is undisclosed, the Watford Observer understands it to be around £200,000.
Watford pulled out of a deal to sign Tom Heaton following the club's takeover and Loach's replacement is expected to be either Carlo Cudicini or Manuel Almunia.
Loach was with the Ipswich academy as a youngster before his family moved away from the area.
He made over 150 appearances for the Hornets and has also racked up 14 caps for England at Under-21 level during his time in Hertfordshire.
Comments(45)
stevemag
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4:33pm Thu 19 Jul 12
The difference in results last season when the Manchested United goalkeeper came on loan was for all to see.
The biggest clue as to how much the lads form sadly declined is by looking at the amount paid by Ipswich.
Onwards and upwards !!
peter10531089
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4:49pm Thu 19 Jul 12
jasonwatford
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4:52pm Thu 19 Jul 12
No Wheels
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5:01pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Watforddogs
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5:15pm Thu 19 Jul 12
If you understand it to be £200k even though the contracting parties have decided to keep the matter private, the bigger story is - who inside the club is feeding you with information - did the cleaner find something on the copier?
I suspect you are not correct as I have been told that the opening bid was £500k
Watforddogs
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5:18pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Grow up!!
Pathetic people like you cost this man his confidence and eventually the club about £2m and a dozen points last year
Are you proud of that?
lockerbiehornet
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5:19pm Thu 19 Jul 12
hemelhorn87
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5:30pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Are all our fans brainwashed! where is watford going, audacious bids for past it players who are never going to join.
IN DYCHE WE TRUSTED!
buckler
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5:31pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Watforddogs wrote:Ha ha the truth is he's just not man enough to be a good keeper! He will be found Out at tractor trash just like Zola found out within a week! Ciao Butter Fingers.
and Jason
Grow up!!
Pathetic people like you cost this man his confidence and eventually the club about £2m and a dozen points last year
Are you proud of that?
holtonian
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5:37pm Thu 19 Jul 12
West Country Hornet
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5:38pm Thu 19 Jul 12
hemelhorn87 wrote:Not brainwashed, just embracing the future. All been said already about Dyche.
is anyone else worried about the way the club is being run at the moment, we are losing our club image, getting rid of out of form players with potential for tippance!! Are all our fans brainwashed! where is watford going, audacious bids for past it players who are never going to join. IN DYCHE WE TRUSTED!
The fact is that with or without him the club would still be in a precarious position financially with a wonky stadium if not for the takeover. There is still a long way to go but so far we have had 3 players in on loan and sold 1 for a fee.
Good business. This is a positive step. More of the same please.
StuWFC
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5:45pm Thu 19 Jul 12
hemelhorn87 wrote:It's called "Getting rid of the dead wood" it where a club gets rid of players that are costing the club more than they benefit them in order to bring better players in.
is anyone else worried about the way the club is being run at the moment, we are losing our club image, getting rid of out of form players with potential for tippance!!
Are all our fans brainwashed! where is watford going, audacious bids for past it players who are never going to join.
IN DYCHE WE TRUSTED!
Let's be honest here Loach is no where near as good as Almunia or Cuducini. And either or both would be a huge benefit to the club and the younger keepers.
With the amount of time we gave Loach and the heaps of praise he got, he's just seemed to slide downhill, couldn't control his area and was generally flappy. Made some good saves but some isn't good enough if we want a higher level of performance.
He did cost us points. But good luck to the lad anyway, hopefully the change of club and returning back home will do him some good.
Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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5:45pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Hemelhorn87 - you are right to be concerned however I genuinely do believe that the Pozzos are in it for the long term and as such it is less likely to go belly up. It feels similar to Vialli situation and laterly Simpson/Ashton, but the big difference is that we have proven ownership in charge and pulling the strings. God I hope I am right!
These_arms_are_snakes
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5:54pm Thu 19 Jul 12
SAHornet
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5:58pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Watforddogs wrote:Ridiculous post Watforddogs. No one cost him his confidence but himself. One howler is one thing but a constant succession of them is too much for any fan to bear especially when it is costing point after point after point. And one other thing, do you not think that his own teammates were giving to him in spades, also. They were being left high and dry on a regular basis.
and Jason
Grow up!!
Pathetic people like you cost this man his confidence and eventually the club about £2m and a dozen points last year
Are you proud of that?
jasonwatford
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6:00pm Thu 19 Jul 12
ase just see the truth .... he was not good enough...all hype..he only got in england full squad as cover coz they stay at the grove hotel...sub at half time in a under 21 game due to mistakes and never played again...how many points he cost us over the years ?? i guess ur be another one saying he is young etc etc...he is not young at all he is 24 and still makes same mistakes and im glad he has gone.
SAHornet
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6:03pm Thu 19 Jul 12
hemelhorn87 wrote:Hemelhorn, come off it. Things change. What exactly is our club image? The 3 guys I play golf with weekly, laugh at Watford and ask if the wind doesn't blow too hard through our 3 sided pitch. Is that the image you want for your club. Is it? I'm fed up with "The Watford Way" if it means mediocrity on the pitch and squalor off it. I want a club I can be proud of again and as far as I can see, this is what The Pozzo's want too. Now I suggest that those dissenters get on board quickly and maybe, just maybe, we will have a club we can be proud of again and be represented in the top flight in a couple of seasons from now.
is anyone else worried about the way the club is being run at the moment, we are losing our club image, getting rid of out of form players with potential for tippance!!
Are all our fans brainwashed! where is watford going, audacious bids for past it players who are never going to join.
IN DYCHE WE TRUSTED!
COYH's
hemelhorn87
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6:05pm Thu 19 Jul 12
StuWFC wrote:Dont get me wrong, this new structure is exciting, no longer serious financial trouble above our head and i agree with cudicini being better than SL (even if the almunia signing troubles me a little) it just seems we are all playing a speculative game of football manager where the owners dont understand us as fans!
hemelhorn87 wrote:It's called "Getting rid of the dead wood" it where a club gets rid of players that are costing the club more than they benefit them in order to bring better players in.
is anyone else worried about the way the club is being run at the moment, we are losing our club image, getting rid of out of form players with potential for tippance!!
Are all our fans brainwashed! where is watford going, audacious bids for past it players who are never going to join.
IN DYCHE WE TRUSTED!
Let's be honest here Loach is no where near as good as Almunia or Cuducini. And either or both would be a huge benefit to the club and the younger keepers.
With the amount of time we gave Loach and the heaps of praise he got, he's just seemed to slide downhill, couldn't control his area and was generally flappy. Made some good saves but some isn't good enough if we want a higher level of performance.
He did cost us points. But good luck to the lad anyway, hopefully the change of club and returning back home will do him some good.
And can anybody tell me honestly that Scott Loach is worth £150,000, a keeper 2 years ago was worth £2m. He is 24, I am not his bigger fan but he is worth more!! Zola seems to be targeting 'bigger' players that arent going to 'fit' the clubs image
hogweed
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6:36pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Hog out
D.unstable
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6:44pm Thu 19 Jul 12
hemelhorn87 wrote:We do not have an image, we will even be playing a totally different style of football to previous, get on board these guys know what they are doing and we will be in a much better place
StuWFC wrote:Dont get me wrong, this new structure is exciting, no longer serious financial trouble above our head and i agree with cudicini being better than SL (even if the almunia signing troubles me a little) it just seems we are all playing a speculative game of football manager where the owners dont understand us as fans!
hemelhorn87 wrote:It's called "Getting rid of the dead wood" it where a club gets rid of players that are costing the club more than they benefit them in order to bring better players in.
is anyone else worried about the way the club is being run at the moment, we are losing our club image, getting rid of out of form players with potential for tippance!!
Are all our fans brainwashed! where is watford going, audacious bids for past it players who are never going to join.
IN DYCHE WE TRUSTED!
Let's be honest here Loach is no where near as good as Almunia or Cuducini. And either or both would be a huge benefit to the club and the younger keepers.
With the amount of time we gave Loach and the heaps of praise he got, he's just seemed to slide downhill, couldn't control his area and was generally flappy. Made some good saves but some isn't good enough if we want a higher level of performance.
He did cost us points. But good luck to the lad anyway, hopefully the change of club and returning back home will do him some good.
And can anybody tell me honestly that Scott Loach is worth £150,000, a keeper 2 years ago was worth £2m. He is 24, I am not his bigger fan but he is worth more!! Zola seems to be targeting 'bigger' players that arent going to 'fit' the clubs image
Fed up with my club being mugged off for years, things are a changing.
Watford are back!!!!
D.unstable
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6:44pm Thu 19 Jul 12
hemelhorn87 wrote:We do not have an image, we will even be playing a totally different style of football to previous, get on board these guys know what they are doing and we will be in a much better place
StuWFC wrote:Dont get me wrong, this new structure is exciting, no longer serious financial trouble above our head and i agree with cudicini being better than SL (even if the almunia signing troubles me a little) it just seems we are all playing a speculative game of football manager where the owners dont understand us as fans!
hemelhorn87 wrote:It's called "Getting rid of the dead wood" it where a club gets rid of players that are costing the club more than they benefit them in order to bring better players in.
is anyone else worried about the way the club is being run at the moment, we are losing our club image, getting rid of out of form players with potential for tippance!!
Are all our fans brainwashed! where is watford going, audacious bids for past it players who are never going to join.
IN DYCHE WE TRUSTED!
Let's be honest here Loach is no where near as good as Almunia or Cuducini. And either or both would be a huge benefit to the club and the younger keepers.
With the amount of time we gave Loach and the heaps of praise he got, he's just seemed to slide downhill, couldn't control his area and was generally flappy. Made some good saves but some isn't good enough if we want a higher level of performance.
He did cost us points. But good luck to the lad anyway, hopefully the change of club and returning back home will do him some good.
And can anybody tell me honestly that Scott Loach is worth £150,000, a keeper 2 years ago was worth £2m. He is 24, I am not his bigger fan but he is worth more!! Zola seems to be targeting 'bigger' players that arent going to 'fit' the clubs image
Fed up with my club being mugged off for years, things are a changing.
Watford are back!!!!
TACTONE
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7:01pm Thu 19 Jul 12
lutondown
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7:26pm Thu 19 Jul 12
These_arms_are_snakes
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7:28pm Thu 19 Jul 12
TACTONE wrote:Are you Loachy is disguise???
Scott Loach went for £150,000 ABSOLUTE FACT! You the so called fans killed him this season along with Sean Dyche, Tomas was not the answer he never gave you a MOM performance as Loach did in the last game of the season. Rest was needed I agree, Look back over 4 seasons and take a really good look, and ask your self's about his ability, great young goalkeeper. Sean got the job as he was cheap, and lets be honest no body wanted him anyway, and from day one did Sean not like Loach, after the Palace game it is known that he never even spoke to him till the last game, that's so poor. A good manager takes the weight on his shoulders and does blame one person in public. Loach trained hard to show us all his is back. Even played reserve games to get back to form. The problem is you still have the same goalkeeping coach that has no idea of the modern game, look at visiting goalkeeping coaches and how they prepare their Goalies, Alex is old school, clueless and needs to move on. Half the comments I read on forums are from total retards that obviously have know idea about football and how to treat human beings, most probably on the dole as well. The Championship has no place for the football Zola wants to play, not enough time and the players do not have the touch, especially at the back, Lloyd, Nosworthy, Murfin, lets not kid ourselves. Anyway I am going to have to sit again in the stands with the same thick fans that panic even at the burger bar and that's before kick off, when we say our fans are special I could not agree more. Lets see how long it is before we are killing some other player, and making them leave on the cheap, then when they have gone still calling them, get a grip support means exactly that, good or bad.
lutondown
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7:29pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Watforddogs wrote:Go do one you fool
and Jason
Grow up!!
Pathetic people like you cost this man his confidence and eventually the club about £2m and a dozen points last year
Are you proud of that?
Loach was pants, good riddance and wish he could take the losers who are still yearning for Bas Dyche and blameless Scott
Ooh he's only 24... Bless, young men far younger are dying every in Afghanistan. Want to cry? Do it over them
buckler
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7:59pm Thu 19 Jul 12
SAHornet
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9:25pm Thu 19 Jul 12
TACTONE wrote:Agree 100% about AC. Old fashioned coach. Needs replacing now.
Scott Loach went for £150,000 ABSOLUTE FACT! You the so called fans killed him this season along with Sean Dyche, Tomas was not the answer he never gave you a MOM performance as Loach did in the last game of the season. Rest was needed I agree, Look back over 4 seasons and take a really good look, and ask your self's about his ability, great young goalkeeper. Sean got the job as he was cheap, and lets be honest no body wanted him anyway, and from day one did Sean not like Loach, after the Palace game it is known that he never even spoke to him till the last game, that's so poor. A good manager takes the weight on his shoulders and does blame one person in public. Loach trained hard to show us all his is back. Even played reserve games to get back to form. The problem is you still have the same goalkeeping coach that has no idea of the modern game, look at visiting goalkeeping coaches and how they prepare their Goalies, Alex is old school, clueless and needs to move on. Half the comments I read on forums are from total retards that obviously have know idea about football and how to treat human beings, most probably on the dole as well. The Championship has no place for the football Zola wants to play, not enough time and the players do not have the touch, especially at the back, Lloyd, Nosworthy, Murfin, lets not kid ourselves. Anyway I am going to have to sit again in the stands with the same thick fans that panic even at the burger bar and that's before kick off, when we say our fans are special I could not agree more. Lets see how long it is before we are killing some other player, and making them leave on the cheap, then when they have gone still calling them, get a grip support means exactly that, good or bad.
The rest of your post is pure drivel of the highest order. Loach was a liability and every even handed fan knows it.....except you and a few others that are certainly in a minority.
Bye the way, why don't you learn how to compose and punctuate a message.
Holly68
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9:56pm Thu 19 Jul 12
D.unstable
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10:09pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Holly68 wrote:Exactly, they have not stated that we can only spend what is generated through player sales, so what the hell.
If the club sell for £150k or £20M. What does it matter now, it's not our personal money, and we know the club is in safe hands financially, so the fee is irrelevant now. The point is, Scott needed to move, so everyone is happy.
Woke up last night in a sweat, had a nightmare that the staff had not been paid and somebody was trying to get into to safe.....couldn't make it up.
radlettman
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10:15pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Time now for Alec Chamberlain to leave... please.
gilesy97
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10:49pm Thu 19 Jul 12
TACTONE wrote:Have to agree with Tactone re Scott Loach , and as much as I liked Sean Dyche can confirm that he never spoke to Scott after the Palace game. Shocking behaviour for a manager . Unfortunately , the way the season panned out made SL's transfer a certainty , although £150, 000 is only good business for Ipswich ( dreadful for us). The fans destroyed his confidence , and I was very disappointed to see OUR supporters ( or some of them) have that attitude to a player who has served the club well . It was almost BULLYING in my opinion.No-one had the guts to say it to his face after matches did they ? TK played 13 matches in which we gained 21 points and he conceded 16 goals , SL's last 13 games we gained 18 points and conceded 19 goals. It is a little unfair to compare those figures , in a way , as we only really found confidence after the Tottenham defeat ..winning 3 out of the next 4 plus a draw with SL in goal. After the 2 thumpings ( Palace & Southampton ,) we continued that form till the end of the season. As for TK , he too made errors ( 1st goal re Southampton, Derby's free-kick , His mix up with Dickinson v Leicester , and was lucky too..his double save v Leeds was only made because he dismally dropped the first effort) He was on £30,000 a week and at over 27 ( the age Keepers reach their peak) was obviously more experienced etc and has a bigger presence than SL. But SL is also a better Kicker of a ball. Kuszack kicked longer , but hardly found his man. At his BEST , there are not many better English keepers in the League than SL and hopefully this move will prove that for him. I wish him well . Good luck to Watford , if all they can get better than SL are 2 old "past their peak" Premier goalies ( foreign at that ) looking for a last couple of seasons before retiring. I don't agree about Alec Chamberlain , I think he is a good coach , but just couldn't give SL any more after his confidence dropped. Also agree that our back four did not exactly "want" the ball at the back , as none of them can really pass it about.
Scott Loach went for £150,000 ABSOLUTE FACT! You the so called fans killed him this season along with Sean Dyche, Tomas was not the answer he never gave you a MOM performance as Loach did in the last game of the season. Rest was needed I agree, Look back over 4 seasons and take a really good look, and ask your self's about his ability, great young goalkeeper. Sean got the job as he was cheap, and lets be honest no body wanted him anyway, and from day one did Sean not like Loach, after the Palace game it is known that he never even spoke to him till the last game, that's so poor. A good manager takes the weight on his shoulders and does blame one person in public. Loach trained hard to show us all his is back. Even played reserve games to get back to form. The problem is you still have the same goalkeeping coach that has no idea of the modern game, look at visiting goalkeeping coaches and how they prepare their Goalies, Alex is old school, clueless and needs to move on. Half the comments I read on forums are from total retards that obviously have know idea about football and how to treat human beings, most probably on the dole as well. The Championship has no place for the football Zola wants to play, not enough time and the players do not have the touch, especially at the back, Lloyd, Nosworthy, Murfin, lets not kid ourselves. Anyway I am going to have to sit again in the stands with the same thick fans that panic even at the burger bar and that's before kick off, when we say our fans are special I could not agree more. Lets see how long it is before we are killing some other player, and making them leave on the cheap, then when they have gone still calling them, get a grip support means exactly that, good or bad.
I am pleased we have been saved from admin by these owners , but I'm worried at the moment as to where this club is heading. Whilst we all want to win , this has always been a "fans" club , and with prices ( hospitality etc) already been raised I feel we may not enjoy this takeover as much as we think we're going to....
morrismac
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12:56am Fri 20 Jul 12
Actually, I remain fairly optimistic, but it still hurts that They used to call Us "happy clappers".
lutondown
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5:44am Fri 20 Jul 12
First of all we have replaced Dyche with someone respected world wide. He can attract players in that Dyche never could. Mapps, good business in my opinion. Don't forget the add Ons. Sarries deal was agreed in principle with Bas, they have their own ground just about completed. Absolutely maced a country folk club with an absolutely pants goalie. players? 3 loaned and several will sign. Prudent business, again IMHO.
The stand, oh it will get built, with real money by a family with a proven track record in success.
Happy clapper? Nothing happy about you mate, but it would be a happier place if you took your misery to that Parallel Universe you yearn for.
SAHornet
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6:11am Fri 20 Jul 12
lutondown wrote:Ouch ! Bite me !
Well as Sci Fi is not the order of the day I would prefer to deal in reality.
First of all we have replaced Dyche with someone respected world wide. He can attract players in that Dyche never could. Mapps, good business in my opinion. Don't forget the add Ons. Sarries deal was agreed in principle with Bas, they have their own ground just about completed. Absolutely maced a country folk club with an absolutely pants goalie. players? 3 loaned and several will sign. Prudent business, again IMHO.
The stand, oh it will get built, with real money by a family with a proven track record in success.
Happy clapper? Nothing happy about you mate, but it would be a happier place if you took your misery to that Parallel Universe you yearn for.
jasonwatford
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7:57am Fri 20 Jul 12
southernhornet
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8:54am Fri 20 Jul 12
morrismac wrote:You are not far wrong here, we would have been going absolutely mad!
Imagine, just for fun, a nearby, parallel universe where the previous owner had somehow managed to balance the books and then: sacked Sean Dyche and his back-up team; sold Mariappa for £2M; announced that the East Stand would not be rebuilt until the other three were full; confirmed that Saracens would continue to play on our nice new pitch for the foreseeable future; sold Scott Loach for £150K and, with just over three weks to go until the start of the season, had still not actually signed a single new player, loan or otherwise?
Actually, I remain fairly optimistic, but it still hurts that They used to call Us "happy clappers".
There is no doubt there will be players coming in, that is a certainty. I am sure we will bring some decent players in as well as a few not so decent ones. That's football. But the amount of change off the pitch is not necessary.
There is a fair bit of negativity around some of what's going on and a fair bit of positivity The truth of what's going on is probably somewhere in between all of that
cannons tours
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9:09am Fri 20 Jul 12
gilesy97
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9:13am Fri 20 Jul 12
jasonwatford wrote:No I'm not .But I do try and look at things in a balanced way ..and the bottom line is that all goalkeepers are making errors nowadays ( incl Premiership goalkeepers) . A keeper on the fringe of the England scene , we should be trying to support when he goes through a loss of form ..not suddenly call him sh**e !. A small parallel can be drawn here ... Loach mde an error ...was called cr*p , Kuszack made a mistake and that was accepted .In fact Kuszack's goalkeeping was average overall to be honest for a man on £30,000 a week. Foster made errors but he was never villified. I'm not saying that a change wasn't needed under the circumstances ..but I'm not proud of watching this abuse and bullying that was reigned on our goalkeeper last season from some Watford "fans".
is gilesey97 alec chamberlain ??
Frankie Frazer
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10:27am Fri 20 Jul 12
I am still excited about the future and would personally prefer Cudicini to Almunia but both IMO are better than Loach so a step up in class . Can't wait to see the players coming in and fans now just have to back Zola and forget about SD as I ain't gona change anything by being negative .. In Zola we trust !!
buckler
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11:45am Fri 20 Jul 12
gilesy97 wrote:Why do you think TK is no longer on 30k a year and Loach at Ipswich? Because neither are as good as they think!
jasonwatford wrote:No I'm not .But I do try and look at things in a balanced way ..and the bottom line is that all goalkeepers are making errors nowadays ( incl Premiership goalkeepers) . A keeper on the fringe of the England scene , we should be trying to support when he goes through a loss of form ..not suddenly call him sh**e !. A small parallel can be drawn here ... Loach mde an error ...was called cr*p , Kuszack made a mistake and that was accepted .In fact Kuszack's goalkeeping was average overall to be honest for a man on £30,000 a week. Foster made errors but he was never villified. I'm not saying that a change wasn't needed under the circumstances ..but I'm not proud of watching this abuse and bullying that was reigned on our goalkeeper last season from some Watford "fans".
is gilesey97 alec chamberlain ??
abbotshornet
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12:11pm Fri 20 Jul 12
Nobody can condone bullying if that is what occured, but when you see the manager continuing to play someone who is patently not good enough your frustration needs to come out in some way. Loach being human will make mistakes, bit his were too many and too costly.
I am sure the majority of the people on this forum want Watford FC to do well, it's just that we all have different ideas as to how that should be achieved! Totally agree now we are apparently not on a tight budget the money we recieve or spend on transfers is fairly irrelevant. COYH
lutondown
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12:48pm Fri 20 Jul 12
Frankie Frazer wrote:Right that's it Frankie, my park, dawn, bring your own pistol
Totally agree with the comment reference bullying! Why do some people on here always feel it is necessary to abuse someone when they lose confidence? Surely it is our job as fans to try and build their confidence not destroy it further! Don't get me wrong it is our right as fans to let a player know if they don't Perform to the standard we expect, however that can be done in a constructive way, posting personal abuse on twitter accounts, booing and being offensive about someone is just not helpful to anyone ! to be fair there is only a minority off bully boys posting on this site! They r the same people that start offering people out when they dare to have a difference of oppinion with them, playground stuff ...
I am still excited about the future and would personally prefer Cudicini to Almunia but both IMO are better than Loach so a step up in class . Can't wait to see the players coming in and fans now just have to back Zola and forget about SD as I ain't gona change anything by being negative .. In Zola we trust !!
I have the contract here, right from the Don himself
Lots of love and mischief
bully Beef and co
The old nags head
Roger "Studs" Joslyn
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1:03pm Fri 20 Jul 12
Frankie Frazer
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8:13pm Fri 20 Jul 12
D.unstable says...
4:33pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Would be good to see a few signings in the coming days to settle the nerves.
Good luck Loachy, think it was fare to say you needed to change.