What is the difference between a Category 1 and 3 Academy as part of EPPP changes?

The new EPPP rules were always going to make it hard for Watford to keep the next Sean Murray The new EPPP rules were always going to make it hard for Watford to keep the next Sean Murray

When the news emerged on Tuesday that Watford plan to downgrade their academy status from potentially Category 1 to 3, shocked fans flocked to social networks and forums to express their concern about what this means for the future of, not only the Hornets' youth system, but the club as a whole.

Are the new owners neglecting the club’s home-grown traditions? How will the changes actually affect Watford’s youth system? And what does the future really hold for Vicarage Road ’s brightest young talents?

It is important to stress Watford had only applied for Category 1 status and were awaiting assessment - this will be the first year where the new rating system is used.

So while the Hornets may not have had their application for Category 1 approved, the club's announcement this week confirms the application will be withdrawn and perhaps offers some clues as to how the club might move forward.  

The club's exact plans are still unclear and this decision does not force them to make changes but it does mean the minimum requirements demanded by the FA are significantly relaxed.

Consequently - if they choose to do so - the club will be allowed to make significant cutbacks, some of which could be more damaging to Watford’s academy than others.

The new Category 3 status will be fixed for a minimum of three years and, crucially, will allow the club to make important financial savings.

FA rules state that a club with Category 1 status must have several full time employees that, under Category 3, can be made part-time or removed all together.

Among the roles which could be reviewed are sports scientist, coach developer, strength and conditioning coach, performance analyst and head of education.

In reality, such wholesale changes are unlikely to materialise in the immediate term at least, but other, more subtle, adjustments could be made.

For example, the number of coaches employed to work with players under the age of 16 can be reduced.

In a Category 1 training session there has to be at least one coach for every eight players. In Category 3 that ratio is relaxed to one in ten.

And the recommended budget guidelines – which clubs do not have to follow – suggest a Category 1 Academy should spend £2.3m per year, while a Category 3 club’s recommended spending is only £500,000.

Such financial savings would be understandable but of greater concern to fans may be that the club could, if it chooses to do so, slash the number of coaching hours given to their youngest academy players.

Under Category 1, Under-11 players have eight hours coaching a week for 46 weeks a year, meaning those players receive an annual total of at least 368 hours of tuition.

Under Category 3 however, Watford’s Under-11s could receive as little as 120 hours a year, more than a third of Category 1's requirements.

None of these changes are compulsory, and the Hornets may well opt to continue with the same training programmes it adopts now.

What is certain though is that Watford’s youth teams will no longer be testing themselves against the country’s most challenging opposition in a league format.

Watford’s youngsters will continue to play friendlies against the big clubs in behind-closed-doors games but competitive fixtures against Arsenal and Tottenham will be replaced with the likes of Luton Town and Stevenage Borough.

And if their players impress, the Hornets may find it harder to prevent bigger clubs from poaching their brightest talents with Category 3 rules demanding less compensation for young stars.

Under the new rules, a talented 16-year-old registered with a Category 1 Academy since Under-9 level could sign for another club and his current team would be due £200,000 in compensation. For the same player, a Category 3 club would receive £71,500.

However, there is a strong argument that the fee is almost irrelevant because the likes of Sean Murray would surely leave regardless if the larger lights came calling.

In the past, there was a tribunal system which protected the smaller clubs.

When Manchester City wanted to sign Murray as a 16-year-old, they were put off by the threat of going to a tribunal, where the fees were not structured in such a way.

The club are yet to clarify what the future holds with regards to their relationship with the Harefield Academy, its facilities and the level of funding available.

As a Category 1 Academy, clubs are required to have a floodlit grass pitch, an indoor surface available all year round and match analysis suites. These are not a requirement for Category 3 sides but there is as yet no suggestion Watford will ditch the facilities they currently have.

It is Watford who hold all the cards and, if nothing else, the new status simply gives the club more freedom to play their hand as they see fit.

Hornets fans will be hoping that this freedom is used sensibly to cut unnecessary luxuries rather than usher in a new era where the club’s youth system is no longer a priority.

The FA's Youth Development Rules document can be seen here . There will be more on Watford's decision to downgrade their academy status shortly.

Comments(18)

bowzer says...
1:11pm Thu 16 Aug 12

We wouldn't have got Cat 1 status anyway without getting doubling the staffing levels at academy levels and all of them being full time and providing more facilities like training pitches that can only be used by the academy. At Harefield we probably share those facilities with the school.

To be honest there's no real difference between Cat 2 and Cat 3 besides the academy teams playing against Cat 1 and Cat 2 teams and getting more compensation for players joining other clubs.

borohorn says...
1:14pm Thu 16 Aug 12

However positive a spin put on this news, it's worrying. What local talented youngsters were surely attracted to in the past in the form of the Harfield academy is now not so appealing - even more so if the reason the club has done this is because they are turning to their tried and tested scouting network and deprioritising the academy.

worthing_hornet says...
2:00pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Thanks for providing some sensible analysis of the situation. It was being suggested we had already received cat 1 status and had decided not ti take this after all. You can confirm the award was still to be determined correct? As you say we currently have more than cat 3 needs. So we are not necessarily going to cut things immediately bee have released ourselves from the possible penalties that might arise if we were tied into cat 1. It MIGHT be the pozzos want to use other means to train youth using foreign coaches / placements that cat 1 would probihit. We just don't know. To be frank if the start ti the season is that bad. Everyone will be moaning about GZ not the academy.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...
2:30pm Thu 16 Aug 12

useful article Wobbly.

Bringe says...
2:56pm Thu 16 Aug 12

borohorn wrote:
However positive a spin put on this news, it's worrying. What local talented youngsters were surely attracted to in the past in the form of the Harfield academy is now not so appealing - even more so if the reason the club has done this is because they are turning to their tried and tested scouting network and deprioritising the academy.
Harefield will still be there and is still a damned fine school, it's plenty good enough reason to attract talented Cat2 quality youngsters. Until we reach the Premiership their is no way we can compete with any of the Cat1's and even with promotion it would be very few.
The "tried and tested scouting network" is now world-wide, we would be stupid not to take advantage but even then the youngsters it throws up will need their coaching somewhere, I think it matters little to them if they train at a cat3 that happens to have top quality international coaching with or without an "analysis suite".
Some people buy expensive top spec Mac's just to surf the net and write E-mails; They're pretty but hardly a necessity, a second hand wreck does the same job.

andyhooked says...
3:26pm Thu 16 Aug 12

What happens to the kids outside the football coaching at Cat 3 level?
Do they maintain the education side of things as lots of kids do not make the leap to be pros and what can they do later. Sorry if I have mssed the point!!! I thought that the acdemy at Harfield and our eth was more than this.

bowzer says...
3:28pm Thu 16 Aug 12

We definately had not received Cat1 status as we were due to be audited next month.
We were placed in the Cat1/Cat2 U21 leagues because we had applied for Cat1 and were expected to be awarded Cat1 or Cat2.

andyhooked says...
3:41pm Thu 16 Aug 12

eth meant ethos

Holly68 says...
3:55pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Did I see the academic league tables where Harefield didn't do so well ?

bowzer says...
3:59pm Thu 16 Aug 12

andyhooked - Cat2, Cat3 and Cat4 have to provide education for the U17 and U18 around the training sessions, either in house or at a school. We do this currently as the U18s still go to Harefield.

The rules state that the "permitted training model" for U12 to U16 for Cat3 is part time. That is the traditional after school coaching.
I don't know if Watford would be allowed keep U12-U16 in Harefield as that is a full time model that, in theory, is for Cat1 clubs only.
But it wouldn't look good on the Premier League saying that we have to give our kids a worse coaching and education level then they receive at Harefield.

No Wheels says...
4:17pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Thanks for the article, Tom.

Very clearly presented and informative.

Watfordy2407 says...
4:18pm Thu 16 Aug 12

bowzer wrote:
We wouldn't have got Cat 1 status anyway without getting doubling the staffing levels at academy levels and all of them being full time and providing more facilities like training pitches that can only be used by the academy. At Harefield we probably share those facilities with the school.

To be honest there's no real difference between Cat 2 and Cat 3 besides the academy teams playing against Cat 1 and Cat 2 teams and getting more compensation for players joining other clubs.
As it's explained in the report there are understandable reasons for downgrading however what were the options if the club had chosen category 2.

Watfordy2407 says...
4:34pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Sky sports text service states Watford will be playing in the new U21 premier league.presumably the report is incorrect because either the club has not informed the league or the manager or academy managers have not or sky sports have got it wrong
In any event if the clubs ambitions are for us to play in the premier league then our players,the club and the management would surely benefit from the experience of playing premier league reserve players week in and week out

Bringe says...
4:46pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Watfordy2407 wrote:
Sky sports text service states Watford will be playing in the new U21 premier league.presumably the report is incorrect because either the club has not informed the league or the manager or academy managers have not or sky sports have got it wrong
In any event if the clubs ambitions are for us to play in the premier league then our players,the club and the management would surely benefit from the experience of playing premier league reserve players week in and week out
And get stuffed every week because all our 2nd year scholars have been loaned out for experience ..... bad idea

CENTURIAN says...
10:22pm Thu 16 Aug 12

I Can confirm we would have been playing in cat 1 this season.as the fixture list has already been arranged..The u 18s were due to play away againstVilla this saturday and u 21s home to villa on monday.A home game agaist man utd at the Vic was scheduled for first of september.. As the fixture list for cat 3 has also been arranged there is no guarentee we will be accepted into this league -so late have we left it to pull ouy of cat1.If we are accepted the lads can look forward to games against Mk Dons Stevenage and you know who ...Only this week the u 18 s narrowly lost 2-1 against Arsenal in a friendly showing they would not be overawed in cat 1 league. I am sure the u21s would have given a good account of themselves in their league as there would be no great need for the lads to go out on loanAlas we will not get the chance to find out.....

bowzer says...
11:44pm Thu 16 Aug 12

No we wouldn't have been Cat1 as we weren't scheduled to be audited for it until next month.
We were placed in the same leagues as the Cat 1 and Cat 2 academies because we applied for Cat1 status. Applying for something does not mean that you will get something.
All teams that applied for Cat 1 or Cat 2 status were grouped intot he U18 and U21 leagues even if they haven't had their status audited like us and Crystal Palace and most of the others.

Being put into those leagues wasn't confirmation of either Cat 1 or Cat 2 status and any teams that doesn't meet Cat 1 or Cat 2 status would ahve been removed from the leagues for next season.

Bringe says...
1:13am Fri 17 Aug 12

Palace have been found to be way short of Cat1 I am told and I expect many of the wannabe Cat2's will also be downgraded.

northofwatfordpete says...
9:31am Fri 17 Aug 12

Still plenty of confusion and conjecture on this.

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