Watford defender Martin Taylor joins Sheffield Wednesday after asking for move

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Watford defender Martin Taylor has joined Sheffield Wednesday after the player asked to leave the club, according to the Hornets.

Sheffield Wednesday have been interested in the defender for some time and, despite Taylor playing in all of Watford’s game this season and captaining the side in recent matches, the two clubs have this evening agreed a deal for an undisclosed fee.

Taylor has been one of the Championship’s most consistent defenders since his arrival on a free transfer in January 2010.

The 32-year-old is hugely popular in the dressing room and signed a new one-year contract with the club three months ago.

Watford have since gone through huge change following the Pozzos’ takeover this summer, with the new management team making 16 new signings – five of whom can play in defence.

Taylor made 95 appearances for Watford, scoring ten goals.

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11:16pm Fri 31 Aug 12

WFC4ever says...

Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.
Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such. WFC4ever
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11:18pm Fri 31 Aug 12

garston 'orn says...

Well that changes it, well he'd performed well for us,no hard feelings, wish him well i guess he wants his final pay day! Wednesday have money
Well that changes it, well he'd performed well for us,no hard feelings, wish him well i guess he wants his final pay day! Wednesday have money garston 'orn
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11:19pm Fri 31 Aug 12

watfordguymatt says...

Upset that this is the casualty of all the loan signings, was hoping to get rid of some of the deadwood like Forsyth, Jenkins and perhaps Dickinson. But I understand SW offered him a longer contract so I guess it offers him more security.

Good Luck to him, I think he may miss out on something special here.
Upset that this is the casualty of all the loan signings, was hoping to get rid of some of the deadwood like Forsyth, Jenkins and perhaps Dickinson. But I understand SW offered him a longer contract so I guess it offers him more security. Good Luck to him, I think he may miss out on something special here. watfordguymatt
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11:19pm Fri 31 Aug 12

dmuz says...

Suprised he asked to leave but probably at his age will be on a longer deal at sheff weds and closer (just) to his midlands family. Done a great job for us and dissapointed to see him leave but might struggle in the prem next year (fingers crossed)
Suprised he asked to leave but probably at his age will be on a longer deal at sheff weds and closer (just) to his midlands family. Done a great job for us and dissapointed to see him leave but might struggle in the prem next year (fingers crossed) dmuz
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11:20pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Hornet1970 says...

Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too!

Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all.
Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too! Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all. Hornet1970
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11:21pm Fri 31 Aug 12

WFC4ever says...

watfordguymatt wrote:
Upset that this is the casualty of all the loan signings, was hoping to get rid of some of the deadwood like Forsyth, Jenkins and perhaps Dickinson. But I understand SW offered him a longer contract so I guess it offers him more security.

Good Luck to him, I think he may miss out on something special here.
Does anyone want them...I've not even heard a rumouf of clubs interested!
[quote][p][bold]watfordguymatt[/bold] wrote: Upset that this is the casualty of all the loan signings, was hoping to get rid of some of the deadwood like Forsyth, Jenkins and perhaps Dickinson. But I understand SW offered him a longer contract so I guess it offers him more security. Good Luck to him, I think he may miss out on something special here.[/p][/quote]Does anyone want them...I've not even heard a rumouf of clubs interested! WFC4ever
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11:22pm Fri 31 Aug 12

hemelhorn87 says...

WFC4ever wrote:
Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.
Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian.

What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years
[quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.[/p][/quote]Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian. What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years hemelhorn87
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11:22pm Fri 31 Aug 12

garston 'orn says...

Hornet1970 wrote:
Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too!

Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all.
So your saying the papers lying ITERESTING! stop with the BS. He will have greater security on a greater wage, end of.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet1970[/bold] wrote: Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too! Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all.[/p][/quote]So your saying the papers lying ITERESTING! stop with the BS. He will have greater security on a greater wage, end of. garston 'orn
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11:25pm Fri 31 Aug 12

WFC4ever says...

garston 'orn wrote:
Hornet1970 wrote:
Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too!

Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all.
So your saying the papers lying ITERESTING! stop with the BS. He will have greater security on a greater wage, end of.
Well who knows...be his word against ours.

I'd be surprised if Tayor walked in within the last 2 days and asked to leave.

Maybe there has been an on going issue.
[quote][p][bold]garston 'orn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet1970[/bold] wrote: Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too! Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all.[/p][/quote]So your saying the papers lying ITERESTING! stop with the BS. He will have greater security on a greater wage, end of.[/p][/quote]Well who knows...be his word against ours. I'd be surprised if Tayor walked in within the last 2 days and asked to leave. Maybe there has been an on going issue. WFC4ever
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11:27pm Fri 31 Aug 12

D.unstable says...

Shame, one of my favourites, but players come and go.

Good luck Tiny, will be sure to get a good reception on your return big boy.

Looks as though Garner is still with us.
Shame, one of my favourites, but players come and go. Good luck Tiny, will be sure to get a good reception on your return big boy. Looks as though Garner is still with us. D.unstable
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11:28pm Fri 31 Aug 12

RebelIan says...

hemelhorn87 wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.
Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian.

What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years
You'd rather have a club in adminstration and heading down to play L***n? Really??!
[quote][p][bold]hemelhorn87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.[/p][/quote]Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian. What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years[/p][/quote]You'd rather have a club in adminstration and heading down to play L***n? Really??! RebelIan
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11:30pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Holly68 says...

Sheff Weds have chased him for a while. It's transfer deadline day, his agent gets a call from Sheff Weds offering him 2 year contract, more money and a nice bonus for the agent. Taylor knows he only has a year left at Watford, has a young family, has lots of new competition at the club, and knows at SW he will be first choice whereas Watford is now unknown. In that circumstance I would ask for a move

Key word : SECURITY
Sheff Weds have chased him for a while. It's transfer deadline day, his agent gets a call from Sheff Weds offering him 2 year contract, more money and a nice bonus for the agent. Taylor knows he only has a year left at Watford, has a young family, has lots of new competition at the club, and knows at SW he will be first choice whereas Watford is now unknown. In that circumstance I would ask for a move Key word : SECURITY Holly68
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11:32pm Fri 31 Aug 12

DuffmanWFC says...

Shame he's gone but the facts are that he is 32 in his last year of his contract and we got him on a free! Was a good servant for the club, does a good job in the oppositions half from corners but isn't a great passer of the ball and that's what we are now looking to do! Change is always hard to except but say come Nov/Dec when the team is settled into a rotation 18 players all we be good! I think the only players from last season that will feature in this 18 reguarly are Hogg, Nosworthy and Murray!
Shame he's gone but the facts are that he is 32 in his last year of his contract and we got him on a free! Was a good servant for the club, does a good job in the oppositions half from corners but isn't a great passer of the ball and that's what we are now looking to do! Change is always hard to except but say come Nov/Dec when the team is settled into a rotation 18 players all we be good! I think the only players from last season that will feature in this 18 reguarly are Hogg, Nosworthy and Murray! DuffmanWFC
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11:33pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Stoney77 says...

hemelhorn87 wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.
Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian.

What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years
Good god, what HAS our club come to. signing 16 players? What a disaster! Sweet jesus fella, embrace the fact that we are signing players, we don't usually sign anyone exciting!! Your comments are ridiculous.... going on about respect? Do you really think Martin Taylor will be having sour grapes with WFC, The Pozzos or GZ?? Don't be so ridiculous, he is a professional footballer, realising a longer contract is on offer and accepting maybe his first team status is under threat. So he looks after number 1 and signs a better contract. Feel free to stay away but I'm sure you'll come crawling back when we are in the premier league having played some of the best football you will ave seen at The Vic.
[quote][p][bold]hemelhorn87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.[/p][/quote]Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian. What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years[/p][/quote]Good god, what HAS our club come to. signing 16 players? What a disaster! Sweet jesus fella, embrace the fact that we are signing players, we don't usually sign anyone exciting!! Your comments are ridiculous.... going on about respect? Do you really think Martin Taylor will be having sour grapes with WFC, The Pozzos or GZ?? Don't be so ridiculous, he is a professional footballer, realising a longer contract is on offer and accepting maybe his first team status is under threat. So he looks after number 1 and signs a better contract. Feel free to stay away but I'm sure you'll come crawling back when we are in the premier league having played some of the best football you will ave seen at The Vic. Stoney77
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11:35pm Fri 31 Aug 12

tonupchris says...

hemelhorn87 wrote:
WFC4ever wrote: Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.
Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian. What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years
Not that loyal if you are saying you won't be going for a while. If that's your attitude you won't be missed. You would rather have Bas? No money, no players, no future, minus 10 points. I see your point. That sounds much better than a load of technically gifted players who are here to help us get promoted. Lack of respect? He had a deal which he signed and somebody was going to offer him a better one so he asks to leave. Sounds like we respected his wishes and would he be good enough if we go up? Probably not.
Some of the comments made by some fans make me cringe. One of the worst posts I've seen. Good riddance
[quote][p][bold]hemelhorn87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.[/p][/quote]Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian. What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years[/p][/quote]Not that loyal if you are saying you won't be going for a while. If that's your attitude you won't be missed. You would rather have Bas? No money, no players, no future, minus 10 points. I see your point. That sounds much better than a load of technically gifted players who are here to help us get promoted. Lack of respect? He had a deal which he signed and somebody was going to offer him a better one so he asks to leave. Sounds like we respected his wishes and would he be good enough if we go up? Probably not. Some of the comments made by some fans make me cringe. One of the worst posts I've seen. Good riddance tonupchris
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11:41pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Bringe says...

The Orn's are going up
The Orn's are going up Bringe
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11:45pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Holly68 says...

Glad he didn't go to Cardiff as they were in for him aswell I understand

Ironic that none of our other players were wanted. Clubs would know that Watford probably would let players leave, but no offers other than for Tiny. So no one wanted Hodson, Dickinson, Doyley, Garner, Big Chris, Forsyth, Yeates, Etc etc Be interesting to see if any go out on loan
Glad he didn't go to Cardiff as they were in for him aswell I understand Ironic that none of our other players were wanted. Clubs would know that Watford probably would let players leave, but no offers other than for Tiny. So no one wanted Hodson, Dickinson, Doyley, Garner, Big Chris, Forsyth, Yeates, Etc etc Be interesting to see if any go out on loan Holly68
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11:51pm Fri 31 Aug 12

jalvin says...

Well as the saying goes "to make an omelette you have to break a few eggs"
Shame to see tiny go but you can't blame him, and IF he did ask to leave then fair play, he's gone somewhere where he's definitely wanted, and he can probably spot that he's not gonna be first choice by xmas.
To be honest I'm not exactly happy that our little club is changing so quickly, BUT i am excited about it, I've been going to the vic for over 30years and generally in that time we've been a pretty average 2nd tier club, and that is, and always was about our level, the only way this seems to be heading now is ONWARDS AND UPWARDS, and that doesn't quite sit right does it. but it's gonna be an interesting ride.

I hope that Come the end of the season we'll all be in that pond as happy as Larry, waving our flags and drinking peroni.

Doubt it though.
Well as the saying goes "to make an omelette you have to break a few eggs" Shame to see tiny go but you can't blame him, and IF he did ask to leave then fair play, he's gone somewhere where he's definitely wanted, and he can probably spot that he's not gonna be first choice by xmas. To be honest I'm not exactly happy that our little club is changing so quickly, BUT i am excited about it, I've been going to the vic for over 30years and generally in that time we've been a pretty average 2nd tier club, and that is, and always was about our level, the only way this seems to be heading now is ONWARDS AND UPWARDS, and that doesn't quite sit right does it. but it's gonna be an interesting ride. I hope that Come the end of the season we'll all be in that pond as happy as Larry, waving our flags and drinking peroni. Doubt it though. jalvin
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11:52pm Fri 31 Aug 12

Harrydownunder says...

hemelhorn87 wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.
Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian.

What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years
Bye then
[quote][p][bold]hemelhorn87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.[/p][/quote]Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian. What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years[/p][/quote]Bye then Harrydownunder
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11:52pm Fri 31 Aug 12

ElGingerino says...

Monty Pozzo's flying circus.

What a farce.
Monty Pozzo's flying circus. What a farce. ElGingerino
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11:53pm Fri 31 Aug 12

MINTYHORNET says...

Sad to see him go but i wish him all the best in the future TINY
Sad to see him go but i wish him all the best in the future TINY MINTYHORNET
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12:01am Sat 1 Sep 12

mark moorhouse3 says...

well sheff wed are a big clud got 38,000 last year in league1.easy get 30,000 also biggest club in the championship will be top of league with the gates.sheffield great city 4th biggest city in england.think he as better move for him.as watford are small nexst to swfc thats why hes left.
well sheff wed are a big clud got 38,000 last year in league1.easy get 30,000 also biggest club in the championship will be top of league with the gates.sheffield great city 4th biggest city in england.think he as better move for him.as watford are small nexst to swfc thats why hes left. mark moorhouse3
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12:07am Sat 1 Sep 12

a1derek says...

Good luck Tiny, you did exceptionally well for us in our hour of need. Will always get a warm welcome back from me...what an amazing day for our club! Beats me how anyone can complain, but there you go - each to his own, eh?
Good luck Tiny, you did exceptionally well for us in our hour of need. Will always get a warm welcome back from me...what an amazing day for our club! Beats me how anyone can complain, but there you go - each to his own, eh? a1derek
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12:07am Sat 1 Sep 12

gilesy97 says...

something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us)
something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us) gilesy97
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12:09am Sat 1 Sep 12

peter10531089 says...

Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have.

Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!).

I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters.

The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black).

On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here.

COYH
Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have. Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!). I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters. The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black). On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here. COYH peter10531089
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12:17am Sat 1 Sep 12

kingofpop says...

good luck to him, does zola actually get a say in who we get shipped? We will have to wait and see how many are as good as people seem to think they are! next problem will be trying to get people in our ground...imagine being back in the prem in a few ysars time and we still cant fill our 3 sided ground
good luck to him, does zola actually get a say in who we get shipped? We will have to wait and see how many are as good as people seem to think they are! next problem will be trying to get people in our ground...imagine being back in the prem in a few ysars time and we still cant fill our 3 sided ground kingofpop
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12:27am Sat 1 Sep 12

bigdave8 says...

I love tiny , really do . Bit gutted . I think we play so much better with him in the side but faith in the new guys
I love tiny , really do . Bit gutted . I think we play so much better with him in the side but faith in the new guys bigdave8
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12:28am Sat 1 Sep 12

Terry Dactile says...

mark moorhouse3 wrote:
well sheff wed are a big clud got 38,000 last year in league1.easy get 30,000 also biggest club in the championship will be top of league with the gates.sheffield great city 4th biggest city in england.think he as better move for him.as watford are small nexst to swfc thats why hes left.
The only reason that they get crowds like that is because there is nothing else to spend you giro's on up there. Playing in the beautiful south or the grim north. No competition you would have thought. Good luck tiny anyway!
[quote][p][bold]mark moorhouse3[/bold] wrote: well sheff wed are a big clud got 38,000 last year in league1.easy get 30,000 also biggest club in the championship will be top of league with the gates.sheffield great city 4th biggest city in england.think he as better move for him.as watford are small nexst to swfc thats why hes left.[/p][/quote]The only reason that they get crowds like that is because there is nothing else to spend you giro's on up there. Playing in the beautiful south or the grim north. No competition you would have thought. Good luck tiny anyway! Terry Dactile
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12:43am Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

gilesy97 wrote:
something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us)
Mark, furious that we let in 2 silly goals near the end to lose maybe !?
[quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us)[/p][/quote]Mark, furious that we let in 2 silly goals near the end to lose maybe !? Holly68
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1:00am Sat 1 Sep 12

gilesy97 says...

Holly68 wrote:
gilesy97 wrote:
something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us)
Mark, furious that we let in 2 silly goals near the end to lose maybe !?
No , it was more than that. I speak to the players after every game. Never seen either of those be so angry. The way the players were sitting on the coach said it all.....Udinese at the back..."our" players at the front.....its a split camp .Still never mind , we can loan our way to the premiership.
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us)[/p][/quote]Mark, furious that we let in 2 silly goals near the end to lose maybe !?[/p][/quote]No , it was more than that. I speak to the players after every game. Never seen either of those be so angry. The way the players were sitting on the coach said it all.....Udinese at the back..."our" players at the front.....its a split camp .Still never mind , we can loan our way to the premiership. gilesy97
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2:21am Sat 1 Sep 12

Loyal Supporter says...

Why would our players have been sitting on the team coach looking angry after a home game? Surely Bradford would be the travelling team. Love him to bits but it's no great surprise Taylor has gone is it? Looked to be on his way last season as well. Good luck to him and just look at the talent in our squad now. Exciting times ahead.
Why would our players have been sitting on the team coach looking angry after a home game? Surely Bradford would be the travelling team. Love him to bits but it's no great surprise Taylor has gone is it? Looked to be on his way last season as well. Good luck to him and just look at the talent in our squad now. Exciting times ahead. Loyal Supporter
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2:44am Sat 1 Sep 12

ElGingerino says...

peter10531089 wrote:
Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have.

Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!).

I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters.

The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black).

On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here.

COYH
Good post.
[quote][p][bold]peter10531089[/bold] wrote: Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have. Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!). I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters. The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black). On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here. COYH[/p][/quote]Good post. ElGingerino
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5:49am Sat 1 Sep 12

CARDIFFHORN says...

Good luck Tiny, we will miss you. How many goals will we ship today??
Good luck Tiny, we will miss you. How many goals will we ship today?? CARDIFFHORN
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7:10am Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Loyal Supporter wrote:
Why would our players have been sitting on the team coach looking angry after a home game? Surely Bradford would be the travelling team. Love him to bits but it's no great surprise Taylor has gone is it? Looked to be on his way last season as well. Good luck to him and just look at the talent in our squad now. Exciting times ahead.
Exactly, the great Pinnoccio's nose just grew longer.
A coach to where?
Sad to see Tiny go, but don't think he'd be comfortable with Zolas ideals
[quote][p][bold]Loyal Supporter[/bold] wrote: Why would our players have been sitting on the team coach looking angry after a home game? Surely Bradford would be the travelling team. Love him to bits but it's no great surprise Taylor has gone is it? Looked to be on his way last season as well. Good luck to him and just look at the talent in our squad now. Exciting times ahead.[/p][/quote]Exactly, the great Pinnoccio's nose just grew longer. A coach to where? Sad to see Tiny go, but don't think he'd be comfortable with Zolas ideals lutondown
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7:22am Sat 1 Sep 12

DuffmanWFC says...

I can't believe some people are saying there's a split camp coz that's just rubbish! It's not like if they don't play they don't get paid! Also it goes to show the character of a fringe player... If there that unhappy then they will either work harder to get into the team or decide to leave in Jan or go out on loan in a few weeks! If the player is someone who thinks "I don't care coz I'm being paid" then club can release him if they think he is harming the dressing room and get him off the wage bill! And if that was the case would you want that type of player at WFC? Also u can send a loan player back! You don't have to keep him... Andros Townsend anyone? I believe 3/4 loan players will go back in next transfer window as Zola will decide how he sees his ideal 18 then add a few good youth/academy to this! Keep the faith chaps
I can't believe some people are saying there's a split camp coz that's just rubbish! It's not like if they don't play they don't get paid! Also it goes to show the character of a fringe player... If there that unhappy then they will either work harder to get into the team or decide to leave in Jan or go out on loan in a few weeks! If the player is someone who thinks "I don't care coz I'm being paid" then club can release him if they think he is harming the dressing room and get him off the wage bill! And if that was the case would you want that type of player at WFC? Also u can send a loan player back! You don't have to keep him... Andros Townsend anyone? I believe 3/4 loan players will go back in next transfer window as Zola will decide how he sees his ideal 18 then add a few good youth/academy to this! Keep the faith chaps DuffmanWFC
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7:38am Sat 1 Sep 12

COGGDAVE1 says...

Holly68 wrote:
Sheff Weds have chased him for a while. It's transfer deadline day, his agent gets a call from Sheff Weds offering him 2 year contract, more money and a nice bonus for the agent. Taylor knows he only has a year left at Watford, has a young family, has lots of new competition at the club, and knows at SW he will be first choice whereas Watford is now unknown. In that circumstance I would ask for a move

Key word : SECURITY
Good post Holly, exactly right, his future was not secure here, and S/W wanted him, longer contract etc ...etc ..
I personally am concerned about the influx of all these players, but have faith in Zola, and if we are pushing for promotion, who cares ....
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Sheff Weds have chased him for a while. It's transfer deadline day, his agent gets a call from Sheff Weds offering him 2 year contract, more money and a nice bonus for the agent. Taylor knows he only has a year left at Watford, has a young family, has lots of new competition at the club, and knows at SW he will be first choice whereas Watford is now unknown. In that circumstance I would ask for a move Key word : SECURITY[/p][/quote]Good post Holly, exactly right, his future was not secure here, and S/W wanted him, longer contract etc ...etc .. I personally am concerned about the influx of all these players, but have faith in Zola, and if we are pushing for promotion, who cares .... COGGDAVE1
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7:42am Sat 1 Sep 12

tiger bay says...

hemelhorn87 wrote:
WFC4ever wrote:
Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.
Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian.

What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years
What part of 'asked to leave' dont you understand?? As for being a 'loyal' fan...well get behind them and prove it then!!
[quote][p][bold]hemelhorn87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WFC4ever[/bold] wrote: Disappointing but as Zola wants to get rid of players anyone wanting to leave is always likely to do as such.[/p][/quote]Why wouldn't you want to leave with 5 players brought in to replace you. Gutted he's gone and I for 1 will not be attending matches for while, I'd rather have bas in charge than these pot-zos. Total lack of respect to someone who has been our best player both last and this year, shipped out because he's not Italian. What has our club come too, signing 16 players, how can anyone think any good can come from this. And before you have a go, I am a loyal watford fan who has had a season ticket for years[/p][/quote]What part of 'asked to leave' dont you understand?? As for being a 'loyal' fan...well get behind them and prove it then!! tiger bay
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7:42am Sat 1 Sep 12

Jon_mk says...

Thanks Tiny, you'll be missed. I suspect asked to leave means that he was told he wasn't going to play long term and tflhat his deal wasn't going to be renewed and so fair enough that he 'asked to leave'.

I wonder who will be next to get shipped out, can't say I would be sorry to see the likes of Dickinson, Forsyth, Garner or Yeates go out on loan but suspect we are stuck with them.

Maybe we should do it the Pozzo way, buy a lower league club and then ship all the players surplus to requirements off to them.

Think my loans.co.uk shirt will get a few outings this season
Thanks Tiny, you'll be missed. I suspect asked to leave means that he was told he wasn't going to play long term and tflhat his deal wasn't going to be renewed and so fair enough that he 'asked to leave'. I wonder who will be next to get shipped out, can't say I would be sorry to see the likes of Dickinson, Forsyth, Garner or Yeates go out on loan but suspect we are stuck with them. Maybe we should do it the Pozzo way, buy a lower league club and then ship all the players surplus to requirements off to them. Think my loans.co.uk shirt will get a few outings this season Jon_mk
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7:48am Sat 1 Sep 12

tiger bay says...

gilesy97 wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
gilesy97 wrote:
something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us)
Mark, furious that we let in 2 silly goals near the end to lose maybe !?
No , it was more than that. I speak to the players after every game. Never seen either of those be so angry. The way the players were sitting on the coach said it all.....Udinese at the back..."our" players at the front.....its a split camp .Still never mind , we can loan our way to the premiership.
B*llsh*t x
[quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: something happened after TUesdays match. I'm not suprised that Taylor's gone as he was fuming when he came out the dressing room. Hogg too . I'm afraid this dressing rom is not a happy ship at the moment. MInd you with 16 loans who cares..its a joke now !!! Watford loans FC ( didn't they used to sponsor us)[/p][/quote]Mark, furious that we let in 2 silly goals near the end to lose maybe !?[/p][/quote]No , it was more than that. I speak to the players after every game. Never seen either of those be so angry. The way the players were sitting on the coach said it all.....Udinese at the back..."our" players at the front.....its a split camp .Still never mind , we can loan our way to the premiership.[/p][/quote]B*llsh*t x tiger bay
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7:49am Sat 1 Sep 12

jasonwatford says...

calm down !!!! good decent player but not what GZ wants from a centreback..the new brazilan boy will be class....Coach you ask ?? they get a coach to the ground and then back t training ground in lonson colney where they park their cars ... they no longerdrive to vicarage road !! I too didnt like this at first but its how it is going be so get on the bus or do somethig else as simple as that. Many will go next week or i guess they will just cancel contracts
calm down !!!! good decent player but not what GZ wants from a centreback..the new brazilan boy will be class....Coach you ask ?? they get a coach to the ground and then back t training ground in lonson colney where they park their cars ... they no longerdrive to vicarage road !! I too didnt like this at first but its how it is going be so get on the bus or do somethig else as simple as that. Many will go next week or i guess they will just cancel contracts jasonwatford
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8:23am Sat 1 Sep 12

Andy Rankin says...

I'm geting sick and tired of these so called Watford Fans slagging off the team. I have sat in the Rookery and listened them first hand, not just on here.

Get the news chaps Watford is changing and from what i have seen so far its for the better, did you not see the Brum game.

Why are so many Watford fans against change? You remind me of frightened old men that have had their meal times changed at the retirement home.

Some coments i read on here stagger me, I support Watford FC not individual players and i want my team to play well and be succesful on and off the field, right now thats what im seeing.

If you dont like it go support some one else, or use the pent up agression i see against the club here and release that anger in a positive way on the terraces, yea i no we dont have any but you no what i mean, to support the lads.

If all that hot air was released on a match day at the Vic we would create a cracking atmosphere for the team.

Get behind the team or GET OUT
I'm geting sick and tired of these so called Watford Fans slagging off the team. I have sat in the Rookery and listened them first hand, not just on here. Get the news chaps Watford is changing and from what i have seen so far its for the better, did you not see the Brum game. Why are so many Watford fans against change? You remind me of frightened old men that have had their meal times changed at the retirement home. Some coments i read on here stagger me, I support Watford FC not individual players and i want my team to play well and be succesful on and off the field, right now thats what im seeing. If you dont like it go support some one else, or use the pent up agression i see against the club here and release that anger in a positive way on the terraces, yea i no we dont have any but you no what i mean, to support the lads. If all that hot air was released on a match day at the Vic we would create a cracking atmosphere for the team. Get behind the team or GET OUT Andy Rankin
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8:51am Sat 1 Sep 12

buckler says...

3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is?
3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is? buckler
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8:52am Sat 1 Sep 12

gilesy97 says...

Loyal Supporter wrote:
Why would our players have been sitting on the team coach looking angry after a home game? Surely Bradford would be the travelling team. Love him to bits but it's no great surprise Taylor has gone is it? Looked to be on his way last season as well. Good luck to him and just look at the talent in our squad now. Exciting times ahead.
"Loyal" supporter...you would know that the team now arrives on a coach before all home games ..and departs on same coach..usually parked opposite old shop.:)
[quote][p][bold]Loyal Supporter[/bold] wrote: Why would our players have been sitting on the team coach looking angry after a home game? Surely Bradford would be the travelling team. Love him to bits but it's no great surprise Taylor has gone is it? Looked to be on his way last season as well. Good luck to him and just look at the talent in our squad now. Exciting times ahead.[/p][/quote]"Loyal" supporter...you would know that the team now arrives on a coach before all home games ..and departs on same coach..usually parked opposite old shop.:) gilesy97
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8:53am Sat 1 Sep 12

rogeruk says...

Andy Rankin wrote:
I'm geting sick and tired of these so called Watford Fans slagging off the team. I have sat in the Rookery and listened them first hand, not just on here.

Get the news chaps Watford is changing and from what i have seen so far its for the better, did you not see the Brum game.

Why are so many Watford fans against change? You remind me of frightened old men that have had their meal times changed at the retirement home.

Some coments i read on here stagger me, I support Watford FC not individual players and i want my team to play well and be succesful on and off the field, right now thats what im seeing.

If you dont like it go support some one else, or use the pent up agression i see against the club here and release that anger in a positive way on the terraces, yea i no we dont have any but you no what i mean, to support the lads.

If all that hot air was released on a match day at the Vic we would create a cracking atmosphere for the team.

Get behind the team or GET OUT
Excellent post, all fans need to understand this is a revolution, English people tend to be conservative and hate change and where has that got us? Both in football and politics!

Watford has been in a mess for many years.

The UK is in a mess thanks to people voting for the the same old parties. Get real out with the old in with the new its called evolution, the system is loaded against change, thank goodness there are still enough people with cajones to make changes.

We need a revolution now in politics make sure at the next election you don't vote for the three main parties!

We want the equivalent political party of the Pozzos we want a revolution to change everything from bottom to top!
[quote][p][bold]Andy Rankin[/bold] wrote: I'm geting sick and tired of these so called Watford Fans slagging off the team. I have sat in the Rookery and listened them first hand, not just on here. Get the news chaps Watford is changing and from what i have seen so far its for the better, did you not see the Brum game. Why are so many Watford fans against change? You remind me of frightened old men that have had their meal times changed at the retirement home. Some coments i read on here stagger me, I support Watford FC not individual players and i want my team to play well and be succesful on and off the field, right now thats what im seeing. If you dont like it go support some one else, or use the pent up agression i see against the club here and release that anger in a positive way on the terraces, yea i no we dont have any but you no what i mean, to support the lads. If all that hot air was released on a match day at the Vic we would create a cracking atmosphere for the team. Get behind the team or GET OUT[/p][/quote]Excellent post, all fans need to understand this is a revolution, English people tend to be conservative and hate change and where has that got us? Both in football and politics! Watford has been in a mess for many years. The UK is in a mess thanks to people voting for the the same old parties. Get real out with the old in with the new its called evolution, the system is loaded against change, thank goodness there are still enough people with cajones to make changes. We need a revolution now in politics make sure at the next election you don't vote for the three main parties! We want the equivalent political party of the Pozzos we want a revolution to change everything from bottom to top! rogeruk
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8:54am Sat 1 Sep 12

buckler says...

Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .
Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford . buckler
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9:03am Sat 1 Sep 12

ElGingerino says...

buckler wrote:
Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .
"forza Watford"
Embarrassing.
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .[/p][/quote]"forza Watford" Embarrassing. ElGingerino
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9:08am Sat 1 Sep 12

buckler says...

ElGingerino wrote:
buckler wrote:
Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .
"forza Watford"
Embarrassing.
Not as Embarrasing as your hair! Bring it on!
[quote][p][bold]ElGingerino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .[/p][/quote]"forza Watford" Embarrassing.[/p][/quote]Not as Embarrasing as your hair! Bring it on! buckler
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9:12am Sat 1 Sep 12

d.j.smith says...

Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going
Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going d.j.smith
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9:15am Sat 1 Sep 12

ElGingerino says...

buckler wrote:
ElGingerino wrote:
buckler wrote:
Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .
"forza Watford"
Embarrassing.
Not as Embarrasing as your hair! Bring it on!
Sell out.
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ElGingerino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .[/p][/quote]"forza Watford" Embarrassing.[/p][/quote]Not as Embarrasing as your hair! Bring it on![/p][/quote]Sell out. ElGingerino
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9:15am Sat 1 Sep 12

ElGingerino says...

buckler wrote:
ElGingerino wrote:
buckler wrote:
Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .
"forza Watford"
Embarrassing.
Not as Embarrasing as your hair! Bring it on!
Sell out.
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ElGingerino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: Forgot to say good luck to Martin Taylor who I thought was a great player but if he doesn't want to be part of something big then Ciao! ForzaWatford .[/p][/quote]"forza Watford" Embarrassing.[/p][/quote]Not as Embarrasing as your hair! Bring it on![/p][/quote]Sell out. ElGingerino
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9:15am Sat 1 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

peter10531089 wrote:
Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have.

Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!).

I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters.

The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black).

On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here.

COYH
Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now.

As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.
[quote][p][bold]peter10531089[/bold] wrote: Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have. Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!). I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters. The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black). On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here. COYH[/p][/quote]Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now. As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years. SAHornet
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9:20am Sat 1 Sep 12

ElGingerino says...

SAHornet wrote:
peter10531089 wrote:
Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have.

Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!).

I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters.

The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black).

On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here.

COYH
Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now.

As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.
Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peter10531089[/bold] wrote: Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have. Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!). I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters. The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black). On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here. COYH[/p][/quote]Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now. As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.[/p][/quote]Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross. ElGingerino
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9:25am Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

ElGingerino wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
peter10531089 wrote:
Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have.

Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!).

I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters.

The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black).

On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here.

COYH
Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now.

As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.
Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross.
Elgingerino : don't go then !
[quote][p][bold]ElGingerino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peter10531089[/bold] wrote: Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have. Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!). I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters. The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black). On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here. COYH[/p][/quote]Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now. As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.[/p][/quote]Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross.[/p][/quote]Elgingerino : don't go then ! Holly68
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9:27am Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

He left for double salary and double length of contract and guaranteed first team football !!

We could not offer the same !!

Get over it people .....
He left for double salary and double length of contract and guaranteed first team football !! We could not offer the same !! Get over it people ..... Holly68
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9:30am Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

d.j.smith wrote:
Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going
I spoke to Stuart Timperley and he said GT was keeping a distant watching eye, he didn't want to be seen to be interfering or undermining the current regime, however was DELIGHTED Bassini had gone. GFZ has also stated publicly he would like to meet GT, so I expect once dust settled, squad sorted, they will meet in private, near Xmas
[quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going[/p][/quote]I spoke to Stuart Timperley and he said GT was keeping a distant watching eye, he didn't want to be seen to be interfering or undermining the current regime, however was DELIGHTED Bassini had gone. GFZ has also stated publicly he would like to meet GT, so I expect once dust settled, squad sorted, they will meet in private, near Xmas Holly68
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9:32am Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

buckler wrote:
3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is?
See you in Frankie and Bennys. What do you look like ?
[quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: 3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is?[/p][/quote]See you in Frankie and Bennys. What do you look like ? Holly68
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9:34am Sat 1 Sep 12

bigthunder says...

Sad and a bit disappointed Taylor gone however for a bit of a reality check how much did he play last season ! Nosworthy and Mariappa were our centre halfs most of a successful season !

We have brought in several new defenders, players come players go as long as we have a winning team most fans do not care , the best watford players for the last 5 years or so have been other clubs loan players
Lansbury,cleverley,k
ightley,Adam Johnson e.t.c

AS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER "DEADWOOD" as some fans are calling them THESE PLAYERS
were brought in by the old regime , good business !! i think not ,as you are saying nobody else wants them!!!

Get behind the Pozzo family and Zola and the team , it may take a bit of time but surley times are better now than for the last decade or so , do you all realise just how close we were from oblivion at the football club , be happy you still have a club to support trust me as i know , we were all but dead until thank goodness the Pozzo family believed in us

Enjoy the ride for once
coyh i think the saying is !
Sad and a bit disappointed Taylor gone however for a bit of a reality check how much did he play last season ! Nosworthy and Mariappa were our centre halfs most of a successful season ! We have brought in several new defenders, players come players go as long as we have a winning team most fans do not care , the best watford players for the last 5 years or so have been other clubs loan players Lansbury,cleverley,k ightley,Adam Johnson e.t.c AS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER "DEADWOOD" as some fans are calling them THESE PLAYERS were brought in by the old regime , good business !! i think not ,as you are saying nobody else wants them!!! Get behind the Pozzo family and Zola and the team , it may take a bit of time but surley times are better now than for the last decade or so , do you all realise just how close we were from oblivion at the football club , be happy you still have a club to support trust me as i know , we were all but dead until thank goodness the Pozzo family believed in us Enjoy the ride for once coyh i think the saying is ! bigthunder
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9:42am Sat 1 Sep 12

Lloydinio says...

Hornet1970 wrote:
Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too!

Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all.
well they wouldn't lie about it, saying he asked to leave I am annoyed he has left as well :'( but we did have too many defenders coming in, which i think pushed taylor out the door.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet1970[/bold] wrote: Stupid decision, top defender and captain for last two games. Suppose well go and sell nosworthy next for .99p too! Not impressed at all and dont believe he asked to leave at all.[/p][/quote]well they wouldn't lie about it, saying he asked to leave I am annoyed he has left as well :'( but we did have too many defenders coming in, which i think pushed taylor out the door. Lloydinio
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9:49am Sat 1 Sep 12

aefevans says...

ElGingerino wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
peter10531089 wrote:
Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have.

Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!).

I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters.

The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black).

On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here.

COYH
Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now.

As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.
Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross.
And there you have SAHornet's post in a nutshell.
[quote][p][bold]ElGingerino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peter10531089[/bold] wrote: Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have. Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!). I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters. The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black). On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here. COYH[/p][/quote]Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now. As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.[/p][/quote]Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross.[/p][/quote]And there you have SAHornet's post in a nutshell. aefevans
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9:51am Sat 1 Sep 12

mattymashup says...

Much fuss about one player leaving the club. Tiny is 32! This season would be his last hurrrah for us anyway, his legs have gone and he needs a good partner to cover him.
We have always lost players in the window for next to nothing, without gettin any sort of decent replacement in in time. This season we have signed at least 5 players who play centre back before shipping tiny out!
One more thing, to all u who believe the heart and souls of the club is being ripped out think again. Players come and go, the hart of the club is the fans, the stadium and the club itself. All the new guys should feel privileged to play in the famous golden yellow. Premier league here we come!
Much fuss about one player leaving the club. Tiny is 32! This season would be his last hurrrah for us anyway, his legs have gone and he needs a good partner to cover him. We have always lost players in the window for next to nothing, without gettin any sort of decent replacement in in time. This season we have signed at least 5 players who play centre back before shipping tiny out! One more thing, to all u who believe the heart and souls of the club is being ripped out think again. Players come and go, the hart of the club is the fans, the stadium and the club itself. All the new guys should feel privileged to play in the famous golden yellow. Premier league here we come! mattymashup
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10:04am Sat 1 Sep 12

mooneysmagic says...

I think a lot on here are getting rather too sentimental about Taylor. If Dyche and Mariappa had still been here, I think Nosworthy and Mariappa would have been the first choice partnership. Taylor has got a longer contract, on more money, probably a big signing on fee and guaranteed first team football. What is the problem?
I think a lot on here are getting rather too sentimental about Taylor. If Dyche and Mariappa had still been here, I think Nosworthy and Mariappa would have been the first choice partnership. Taylor has got a longer contract, on more money, probably a big signing on fee and guaranteed first team football. What is the problem? mooneysmagic
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10:09am Sat 1 Sep 12

JonBoy says...

The moment the Pozzos bought Watford everything changed. Get used to it there's no going back. We're on one hell of a roller coaster ride and the sky's the limit. Stop whining and get behind the team.
The moment the Pozzos bought Watford everything changed. Get used to it there's no going back. We're on one hell of a roller coaster ride and the sky's the limit. Stop whining and get behind the team. JonBoy
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10:23am Sat 1 Sep 12

goldanboy says...

I feel sick already!
I feel sick already! goldanboy
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10:41am Sat 1 Sep 12

dal8oy says...

d.j.smith wrote:
Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going
The EJ/GT era was awesome, no doubting that. HOWEVER that sort of ethos at a club will not get you to the PL anymore. The world of football has changed and if we dont evolve we will be left behind. We simply are not a big enough club to survive in the top 2 leagues long term without changing. Its a brave new world out there and although I would love to hear what GT has to say, its not going to make any difference.
[quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going[/p][/quote]The EJ/GT era was awesome, no doubting that. HOWEVER that sort of ethos at a club will not get you to the PL anymore. The world of football has changed and if we dont evolve we will be left behind. We simply are not a big enough club to survive in the top 2 leagues long term without changing. Its a brave new world out there and although I would love to hear what GT has to say, its not going to make any difference. dal8oy
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10:46am Sat 1 Sep 12

Casterbridge says...

jasonwatford wrote:
calm down !!!! good decent player but not what GZ wants from a centreback..the new brazilan boy will be class....Coach you ask ?? they get a coach to the ground and then back t training ground in lonson colney where they park their cars ... they no longerdrive to vicarage road !! I too didnt like this at first but its how it is going be so get on the bus or do somethig else as simple as that. Many will go next week or i guess they will just cancel contracts
Ah, that explains the second coach parked at the top of Occupation Road when the visiting team's coach is down at the Rookery end and the supporters' coaches have been escorted away from the ground.
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: calm down !!!! good decent player but not what GZ wants from a centreback..the new brazilan boy will be class....Coach you ask ?? they get a coach to the ground and then back t training ground in lonson colney where they park their cars ... they no longerdrive to vicarage road !! I too didnt like this at first but its how it is going be so get on the bus or do somethig else as simple as that. Many will go next week or i guess they will just cancel contracts[/p][/quote]Ah, that explains the second coach parked at the top of Occupation Road when the visiting team's coach is down at the Rookery end and the supporters' coaches have been escorted away from the ground. Casterbridge
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10:50am Sat 1 Sep 12

elgallego says...

I can't believe the whingeing and complaining from these so-called fans. Some time ago our little club under the 'benefactor' Bassini was in danger of going into liquidation because all he wanted was money for himself and not the good of the club. Then they were saying they hoped someone would buy our club. Now that has become a reality and now they complain about the Pozzo family and the way they run the club. What they are trying to do is to get the club to the Premiership. To do that they have to change things - the style of play and the players. They have a proven track record in Udinese and Granada, so stop complaining get behind the owners and the manager and the team. Concerning the number of fans attending matches, if the Watford fans would stop whining and start supporting, then that would encourage others to come, and show the Pozzos that they are appreciated for what they are trying to do. They have brought their money with them and in that sense we have never had it so good since the glory days with Graham Taylor. COYH! Onwards and upwards! Forza la revoluzione!
I can't believe the whingeing and complaining from these so-called fans. Some time ago our little club under the 'benefactor' Bassini was in danger of going into liquidation because all he wanted was money for himself and not the good of the club. Then they were saying they hoped someone would buy our club. Now that has become a reality and now they complain about the Pozzo family and the way they run the club. What they are trying to do is to get the club to the Premiership. To do that they have to change things - the style of play and the players. They have a proven track record in Udinese and Granada, so stop complaining get behind the owners and the manager and the team. Concerning the number of fans attending matches, if the Watford fans would stop whining and start supporting, then that would encourage others to come, and show the Pozzos that they are appreciated for what they are trying to do. They have brought their money with them and in that sense we have never had it so good since the glory days with Graham Taylor. COYH! Onwards and upwards! Forza la revoluzione! elgallego
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10:58am Sat 1 Sep 12

jalvin says...

ElGingerino wrote:
SAHornet wrote:
peter10531089 wrote:
Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have.

Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!).

I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters.

The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black).

On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here.

COYH
Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now.

As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.
Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross.
REAL supporters would get behind the team no matter what, and make a bit of noise at home games instead of sitting on their hands and moaning at our players! Yes our club is changing dramatically, but so is football as a whole. A club our size just can't compete consistently anymore without foreign investment, and believe me I would rather have a club full of "foreigners" than a club in the conference, because that was where we were heading a few months ago!!!
[quote][p][bold]ElGingerino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peter10531089[/bold] wrote: Ok firstly I know I am going to be laughed at for saying this but can we all stop telling fans of our club to "stay away" and "good riddance" simply because their view of how the club is or should be run is different from our own. Please remember we may be able to sign extra players on loan but gaining additional supporters is actually harder so please don't alienate the ones we have. Also because someone criticises the current administration it does not always mean that they favoured mad baz (or his associated safe cracking skills!). I too am not entirely comfortable with the loss of identity that the new loans system (I could see this loophole being closed next season as it clearly is a route around financial FairPlay) entails however I am a supporter of the club however I will criticise the club on points of order if I feel that it is wrong - that does not mean that I or others should be told to simply go away by my fellow supporters. The demotion of the academy status, I viewed as initially negative but the five year contracts for Murray and Hoban signal that if the young players work hard enough and are good enough they will be invested in I see as really positive - so its not black and white but shades of grey (and of course yellow,red and black). On Tiny - sad to see him go but I can understand all the reasons and whilst he has been a fine servant this probably suits all parties. Asking to leave is code for handing in a transfer request and this often prevents the selling club having to pay certain loyalty bonuses to the player upon departure, this may be the case here. COYH[/p][/quote]Peter, TBH I think you'll find that mostly the people saying "stay away" and "good riddance" are doing so in angry response to postings that say, "this isn't my good old, small Watford any more, so I'm not going to support the club". It's a natural angry response because real supporters wouldn't say that, especially not at a time of genuine change, like now. As for Tiny, well he made the correct decision for himself, as professional do these days. Im sure that, Watford supportsers being what they are, he'll get a warm reception back at The Vic for his services in the past couple of years.[/p][/quote]Real supporters would see the soul has been ripped out for the sake of some second rate Italian club having a chance of getting its hand on some premier league sky money a shop window for its dross.[/p][/quote]REAL supporters would get behind the team no matter what, and make a bit of noise at home games instead of sitting on their hands and moaning at our players! Yes our club is changing dramatically, but so is football as a whole. A club our size just can't compete consistently anymore without foreign investment, and believe me I would rather have a club full of "foreigners" than a club in the conference, because that was where we were heading a few months ago!!! jalvin
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11:01am Sat 1 Sep 12

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

dal8oy wrote:
d.j.smith wrote:
Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going
The EJ/GT era was awesome, no doubting that. HOWEVER that sort of ethos at a club will not get you to the PL anymore. The world of football has changed and if we dont evolve we will be left behind. We simply are not a big enough club to survive in the top 2 leagues long term without changing. Its a brave new world out there and although I would love to hear what GT has to say, its not going to make any difference.
agree 100%
[quote][p][bold]dal8oy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going[/p][/quote]The EJ/GT era was awesome, no doubting that. HOWEVER that sort of ethos at a club will not get you to the PL anymore. The world of football has changed and if we dont evolve we will be left behind. We simply are not a big enough club to survive in the top 2 leagues long term without changing. Its a brave new world out there and although I would love to hear what GT has to say, its not going to make any difference.[/p][/quote]agree 100% Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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11:02am Sat 1 Sep 12

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

elgallego wrote:
I can't believe the whingeing and complaining from these so-called fans. Some time ago our little club under the 'benefactor' Bassini was in danger of going into liquidation because all he wanted was money for himself and not the good of the club. Then they were saying they hoped someone would buy our club. Now that has become a reality and now they complain about the Pozzo family and the way they run the club. What they are trying to do is to get the club to the Premiership. To do that they have to change things - the style of play and the players. They have a proven track record in Udinese and Granada, so stop complaining get behind the owners and the manager and the team. Concerning the number of fans attending matches, if the Watford fans would stop whining and start supporting, then that would encourage others to come, and show the Pozzos that they are appreciated for what they are trying to do. They have brought their money with them and in that sense we have never had it so good since the glory days with Graham Taylor. COYH! Onwards and upwards! Forza la revoluzione!
also agree 100% !!
[quote][p][bold]elgallego[/bold] wrote: I can't believe the whingeing and complaining from these so-called fans. Some time ago our little club under the 'benefactor' Bassini was in danger of going into liquidation because all he wanted was money for himself and not the good of the club. Then they were saying they hoped someone would buy our club. Now that has become a reality and now they complain about the Pozzo family and the way they run the club. What they are trying to do is to get the club to the Premiership. To do that they have to change things - the style of play and the players. They have a proven track record in Udinese and Granada, so stop complaining get behind the owners and the manager and the team. Concerning the number of fans attending matches, if the Watford fans would stop whining and start supporting, then that would encourage others to come, and show the Pozzos that they are appreciated for what they are trying to do. They have brought their money with them and in that sense we have never had it so good since the glory days with Graham Taylor. COYH! Onwards and upwards! Forza la revoluzione![/p][/quote]also agree 100% !! Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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11:42am Sat 1 Sep 12

D.unstable says...

jasonwatford wrote:
calm down !!!! good decent player but not what GZ wants from a centreback..the new brazilan boy will be class....Coach you ask ?? they get a coach to the ground and then back t training ground in lonson colney where they park their cars ... they no longerdrive to vicarage road !! I too didnt like this at first but its how it is going be so get on the bus or do somethig else as simple as that. Many will go next week or i guess they will just cancel contracts
They no longer drive so you can't see the nice cars that some of the new guys have ;0)
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: calm down !!!! good decent player but not what GZ wants from a centreback..the new brazilan boy will be class....Coach you ask ?? they get a coach to the ground and then back t training ground in lonson colney where they park their cars ... they no longerdrive to vicarage road !! I too didnt like this at first but its how it is going be so get on the bus or do somethig else as simple as that. Many will go next week or i guess they will just cancel contracts[/p][/quote]They no longer drive so you can't see the nice cars that some of the new guys have ;0) D.unstable
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11:49am Sat 1 Sep 12

holtonian says...

Nice to see Tiny land a good payday offer he was a good find for us.But thats how it happens in a players work span period.
Many keep harping on about Graham Taylor who will not be forgotten, but we have a real soccer legend now as our manager, world class player and totally respected by all.We are so lucky.
If we did get promoted do you not think that the Pozzo family would be entitled to spend the windfall on whatever club they deemed needed it most. After all we have more or less recieved many players on a freebe at there expense.
My last point is that it has become very clear that football nowadays has changed with clubs having mostly or nearly all foreign players at the highest levels in most countries, so if we want to progress this is clearly the way to go. That simple.
Nice to see Tiny land a good payday offer he was a good find for us.But thats how it happens in a players work span period. Many keep harping on about Graham Taylor who will not be forgotten, but we have a real soccer legend now as our manager, world class player and totally respected by all.We are so lucky. If we did get promoted do you not think that the Pozzo family would be entitled to spend the windfall on whatever club they deemed needed it most. After all we have more or less recieved many players on a freebe at there expense. My last point is that it has become very clear that football nowadays has changed with clubs having mostly or nearly all foreign players at the highest levels in most countries, so if we want to progress this is clearly the way to go. That simple. holtonian
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12:45pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Wimbledonhorn says...

Some fans need to wake up and smell the coffee. Change is good and is our case it is essential. Do we really want to be bumbling along in a cycle where of success is defined by merely surviving in the championship every season where once a player or manager acheives a modicum of success they then leave? Yes change is unsettling and yes the new regime is a gambling with our club but HAS to be better than the last 4/5 years. Nothing ventured nothing gained....
Some fans need to wake up and smell the coffee. Change is good and is our case it is essential. Do we really want to be bumbling along in a cycle where of success is defined by merely surviving in the championship every season where once a player or manager acheives a modicum of success they then leave? Yes change is unsettling and yes the new regime is a gambling with our club but HAS to be better than the last 4/5 years. Nothing ventured nothing gained.... Wimbledonhorn
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12:46pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lockerbiehornet says...

holtonian says...
11:49am Sat 1 Sep 12

Nice to see Tiny land a good payday offer he was a good find for us.But thats how it happens in a players work span period.
Many keep harping on about Graham Taylor who will not be forgotten, but we have a real soccer legend now as our manager, world class player and totally respected by all.We are so lucky.
If we did get promoted do you not think that the Pozzo family would be entitled to spend the windfall on whatever club they deemed needed it most. After all we have more or less recieved many players on a freebe at there expense.
My last point is that it has become very clear that football nowadays has changed with clubs having mostly or nearly all foreign players at the highest levels in most countries, so if we want to progress this is clearly the way to go. That simple.

Agreed, also if we did have unlimited funds, how many of us would pick loads of British players anyway? Ronaldo, Messi etc can only think of 1 maybe 2 Brits I'd have in my team
holtonian says... 11:49am Sat 1 Sep 12 Nice to see Tiny land a good payday offer he was a good find for us.But thats how it happens in a players work span period. Many keep harping on about Graham Taylor who will not be forgotten, but we have a real soccer legend now as our manager, world class player and totally respected by all.We are so lucky. If we did get promoted do you not think that the Pozzo family would be entitled to spend the windfall on whatever club they deemed needed it most. After all we have more or less recieved many players on a freebe at there expense. My last point is that it has become very clear that football nowadays has changed with clubs having mostly or nearly all foreign players at the highest levels in most countries, so if we want to progress this is clearly the way to go. That simple. Agreed, also if we did have unlimited funds, how many of us would pick loads of British players anyway? Ronaldo, Messi etc can only think of 1 maybe 2 Brits I'd have in my team lockerbiehornet
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12:49pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

d.j.smith wrote:
Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going
What difference does that make whatever the great man thinks. Try stop looking back and go Forza
[quote][p][bold]d.j.smith[/bold] wrote: Is there any indication of what the great GT thinks of the direction our club is taking? Whatever the future holds nothing will ever change the fact that the Taylor/John era lifted us from a mediocre club with zero aspirations and gave many of us experiences of success we had no right to expect. More than that, it shaped the whole ethos of Watford FC in a way that set an example to the whole country and gave us good reason to feel proud. Graham Taylor loves Watford, was until very recently its chairman, and is a wise and articulate commentator on the game. Has the WO tried to interview him about his take on the post-Baz era? He might not want to comment, but I would love to hear his perspective on where we are going[/p][/quote]What difference does that make whatever the great man thinks. Try stop looking back and go Forza lutondown
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1:39pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Chris the Vic says...

A great loss, a player who made a difference.
Strange to be made captain if he wanted away but maybe he was tapped and it all happened quickly.

Be most interested to hear Tiny's version not sure I will take the word of the club. After all we have signed six players plus since we were told no one more was likely to come!

But as LD say we must look forward...hope he is right
A great loss, a player who made a difference. Strange to be made captain if he wanted away but maybe he was tapped and it all happened quickly. Be most interested to hear Tiny's version not sure I will take the word of the club. After all we have signed six players plus since we were told no one more was likely to come! But as LD say we must look forward...hope he is right Chris the Vic
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1:39pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

Holly68 wrote:
buckler wrote: 3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is?
See you in Frankie and Bennys. What do you look like ?
I'm here in F&B's, just polished off rack of ribs, good suggestion. Sat by window with two boys. Come say hello
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: 3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is?[/p][/quote]See you in Frankie and Bennys. What do you look like ?[/p][/quote]I'm here in F&B's, just polished off rack of ribs, good suggestion. Sat by window with two boys. Come say hello Holly68
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1:42pm Sat 1 Sep 12

bonserout says...

DuffmanWFC wrote:
I can't believe some people are saying there's a split camp coz that's just rubbish! It's not like if they don't play they don't get paid! Also it goes to show the character of a fringe player... If there that unhappy then they will either work harder to get into the team or decide to leave in Jan or go out on loan in a few weeks! If the player is someone who thinks "I don't care coz I'm being paid" then club can release him if they think he is harming the dressing room and get him off the wage bill! And if that was the case would you want that type of player at WFC? Also u can send a loan player back! You don't have to keep him... Andros Townsend anyone? I believe 3/4 loan players will go back in next transfer window as Zola will decide how he sees his ideal 18 then add a few good youth/academy to this! Keep the faith chaps
If you saw the reaction of the whole team at Palace when the winning goal went in you would not think there wa any split in the camp.
[quote][p][bold]DuffmanWFC[/bold] wrote: I can't believe some people are saying there's a split camp coz that's just rubbish! It's not like if they don't play they don't get paid! Also it goes to show the character of a fringe player... If there that unhappy then they will either work harder to get into the team or decide to leave in Jan or go out on loan in a few weeks! If the player is someone who thinks "I don't care coz I'm being paid" then club can release him if they think he is harming the dressing room and get him off the wage bill! And if that was the case would you want that type of player at WFC? Also u can send a loan player back! You don't have to keep him... Andros Townsend anyone? I believe 3/4 loan players will go back in next transfer window as Zola will decide how he sees his ideal 18 then add a few good youth/academy to this! Keep the faith chaps[/p][/quote]If you saw the reaction of the whole team at Palace when the winning goal went in you would not think there wa any split in the camp. bonserout
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2:21pm Sat 1 Sep 12

stevyweavy says...

Personally liked Tiny and he seemed to be adapting well to the new system but have to say over the last few years our back four have had a tendency to let in soft goals no matter what back four we fielded (including Tiny) so maybe a complete overhaul of the back four is what is needed - after all Italian football is all about not letting in goals and scoring on the break. Only time will tell. I go to watch the football; if we have quality attacking football and do well then I for one don't really care who is on the field. If we find good home grown talent they will still get the opportunity to shine (Murray and Hoban on new 5 year contracts) if they are mediocre they will no longer get that opportunity (Massey gone). Should be an interesting season - expect a lot of our players going out on loan come the loan window. We still have to field 6 UK players in the match day squad I think.
Personally liked Tiny and he seemed to be adapting well to the new system but have to say over the last few years our back four have had a tendency to let in soft goals no matter what back four we fielded (including Tiny) so maybe a complete overhaul of the back four is what is needed - after all Italian football is all about not letting in goals and scoring on the break. Only time will tell. I go to watch the football; if we have quality attacking football and do well then I for one don't really care who is on the field. If we find good home grown talent they will still get the opportunity to shine (Murray and Hoban on new 5 year contracts) if they are mediocre they will no longer get that opportunity (Massey gone). Should be an interesting season - expect a lot of our players going out on loan come the loan window. We still have to field 6 UK players in the match day squad I think. stevyweavy
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2:39pm Sat 1 Sep 12

PedroHornet says...

In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team?
In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team? PedroHornet
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2:50pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lockerbiehornet says...

PedroHornet wrote:
In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team?
Pointless post
[quote][p][bold]PedroHornet[/bold] wrote: In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team?[/p][/quote]Pointless post lockerbiehornet
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5:04pm Sat 1 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

lockerbiehornet wrote:
PedroHornet wrote:
In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team?
Pointless post
Absolutely !
[quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PedroHornet[/bold] wrote: In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team?[/p][/quote]Pointless post[/p][/quote]Absolutely ! SAHornet
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5:06pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

SAHornet wrote:
lockerbiehornet wrote:
PedroHornet wrote:
In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team?
Pointless post
Absolutely !
They'll all be out ( the told you so brigade) rejoicing in our blip!
Hope more English players leave such as Dickinson and Yeates to name two
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lockerbiehornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PedroHornet[/bold] wrote: In 24hours, five more players from Italy in and another English player out. Why not rename Watford as "Udinese B" team?[/p][/quote]Pointless post[/p][/quote]Absolutely ![/p][/quote]They'll all be out ( the told you so brigade) rejoicing in our blip! Hope more English players leave such as Dickinson and Yeates to name two lutondown
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5:07pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Gloryhornets57 says...

Gutted about Tiny going. Top player.
Gutted about Tiny going. Top player. Gloryhornets57
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6:48pm Sat 1 Sep 12

buckler says...

Holly68 wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
buckler wrote: 3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is?
See you in Frankie and Bennys. What do you look like ?
I'm here in F&B's, just polished off rack of ribs, good suggestion. Sat by window with two boys. Come say hello
Gutted didn't realise till after the game you were in there? Do you go on twitter?
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]buckler[/bold] wrote: 3 lovely points at Derby today will shut the doom mungers up and by the way I'm shortly setting off to derby! How many on here even know where an away ground is?[/p][/quote]See you in Frankie and Bennys. What do you look like ?[/p][/quote]I'm here in F&B's, just polished off rack of ribs, good suggestion. Sat by window with two boys. Come say hello[/p][/quote]Gutted didn't realise till after the game you were in there? Do you go on twitter? buckler
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7:36pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park
Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park Holly68
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7:54pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Holly68 wrote:
Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park
tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond.
Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter.
By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already!
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park[/p][/quote]tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond. Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter. By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already! lutondown
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8:41pm Sat 1 Sep 12

buckler says...

Holly68 wrote:
Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park
Join twitter loads of us on there and you can chat properly .
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park[/p][/quote]Join twitter loads of us on there and you can chat properly . buckler
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8:47pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

lutondown wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park
tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond.
Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter.
By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already!
Agreed. I know all the Watford fans by face (not name) that were in Frankie and Bennys, so just need to clarify what he looks like
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park[/p][/quote]tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond. Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter. By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already![/p][/quote]Agreed. I know all the Watford fans by face (not name) that were in Frankie and Bennys, so just need to clarify what he looks like Holly68
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8:55pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Holly68 wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park
tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond.
Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter.
By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already!
Agreed. I know all the Watford fans by face (not name) that were in Frankie and Bennys, so just need to clarify what he looks like
Get on twitter Holly, we are all there! He's under mc_chap I'm under Lutondown. Proper discussions without the numptys
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park[/p][/quote]tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond. Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter. By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already![/p][/quote]Agreed. I know all the Watford fans by face (not name) that were in Frankie and Bennys, so just need to clarify what he looks like[/p][/quote]Get on twitter Holly, we are all there! He's under mc_chap I'm under Lutondown. Proper discussions without the numptys lutondown
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8:58pm Sat 1 Sep 12

buckshornet says...

good luck martin taylor top bloke when i've spoke to him.very solid player very much missed by me and thousands of others i'm sure.soon have a team of players none of us can pronounce! how embarrassing
good luck martin taylor top bloke when i've spoke to him.very solid player very much missed by me and thousands of others i'm sure.soon have a team of players none of us can pronounce! how embarrassing buckshornet
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9:02pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

buckshornet wrote:
good luck martin taylor top bloke when i've spoke to him.very solid player very much missed by me and thousands of others i'm sure.soon have a team of players none of us can pronounce! how embarrassing
Well we can't understand what carrot crunching nuts from Bucks are on about? Something about crop circles?
How embarrassing
[quote][p][bold]buckshornet[/bold] wrote: good luck martin taylor top bloke when i've spoke to him.very solid player very much missed by me and thousands of others i'm sure.soon have a team of players none of us can pronounce! how embarrassing[/p][/quote]Well we can't understand what carrot crunching nuts from Bucks are on about? Something about crop circles? How embarrassing lutondown
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10:01pm Sat 1 Sep 12

buckler says...

Holly68 wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park
tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond.
Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter.
By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already!
Agreed. I know all the Watford fans by face (not name) that were in Frankie and Bennys, so just need to clarify what he looks like
Sorted!
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Did you leave early at 0-5 ? Think we may have spoken walking back to car park[/p][/quote]tried to tell Buck u were looking out for him by tweeting him, but he picked up too late, but he did respond. Despite all his nemesis's negative comments towards him, I can vouch he's a top guy and a proper home and away supporter. By the way, today was a blip, we are still going them places, and If u look at the championship it's acting true to form, with everyone having bad days already![/p][/quote]Agreed. I know all the Watford fans by face (not name) that were in Frankie and Bennys, so just need to clarify what he looks like[/p][/quote]Sorted! buckler
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10:10pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Hatfieldhorn says...

Good Luck Martin , true Watford player and no more crossing your fingers a mate unlike us Watford fans .
Yes like every one else I,m patheticaly greatful the Pozzos took over but remember one day , yes one day they will be gone , yes Zola won,t be here for ever and yet it will be all of us still supporting the club
Good Luck Martin , true Watford player and no more crossing your fingers a mate unlike us Watford fans . Yes like every one else I,m patheticaly greatful the Pozzos took over but remember one day , yes one day they will be gone , yes Zola won,t be here for ever and yet it will be all of us still supporting the club Hatfieldhorn
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10:18pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Hatfieldhorn wrote:
Good Luck Martin , true Watford player and no more crossing your fingers a mate unlike us Watford fans .
Yes like every one else I,m patheticaly greatful the Pozzos took over but remember one day , yes one day they will be gone , yes Zola won,t be here for ever and yet it will be all of us still supporting the club
Oh get real, he left for money, he got a longer contract. He kissed the badge and crossed the bridge.
That's modern football, and if I remember it's how it's always been.
And jeez, you'd be better off not punctuating at all.
[quote][p][bold]Hatfieldhorn[/bold] wrote: Good Luck Martin , true Watford player and no more crossing your fingers a mate unlike us Watford fans . Yes like every one else I,m patheticaly greatful the Pozzos took over but remember one day , yes one day they will be gone , yes Zola won,t be here for ever and yet it will be all of us still supporting the club[/p][/quote]Oh get real, he left for money, he got a longer contract. He kissed the badge and crossed the bridge. That's modern football, and if I remember it's how it's always been. And jeez, you'd be better off not punctuating at all. lutondown
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11:14pm Sat 1 Sep 12

Hatfieldhorn says...

Yes but why did he want to go ?
Yes but why did he want to go ? Hatfieldhorn
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11:25pm Sat 1 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Hatfieldhorn wrote:
Yes but why did he want to go ?
Can you answer me why John Barnes left for Liverpool? Not GT? No, course not, better contract
[quote][p][bold]Hatfieldhorn[/bold] wrote: Yes but why did he want to go ?[/p][/quote]Can you answer me why John Barnes left for Liverpool? Not GT? No, course not, better contract lutondown
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7:01pm Sun 2 Sep 12

dolly33 says...

watfordguymatt wrote:
Upset that this is the casualty of all the loan signings, was hoping to get rid of some of the deadwood like Forsyth, Jenkins and perhaps Dickinson. But I understand SW offered him a longer contract so I guess it offers him more security. Good Luck to him, I think he may miss out on something special here.
understand his wages are being
doubled, good luck to martin
[quote][p][bold]watfordguymatt[/bold] wrote: Upset that this is the casualty of all the loan signings, was hoping to get rid of some of the deadwood like Forsyth, Jenkins and perhaps Dickinson. But I understand SW offered him a longer contract so I guess it offers him more security. Good Luck to him, I think he may miss out on something special here.[/p][/quote]understand his wages are being doubled, good luck to martin dolly33
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