UPDATED: Watford striker Deeney out of prison (From Watford Observer)

MJ1 wrote:
So what does it say about Messrs Nani and Duxbury that our skipper and best player Martin Taylor can be deemed to be surplus to requirements and let go for what in football transfer terms is petty cash, whilst a convicted thug that almost killed someone is a valuable asset to be retained? I guess that morals and values are bad for business in the new style Watford FC ownership. I hope they've dropped the stapline, 'Watford - the family club' - oh yes I see they have!

COGGDAVE1 wrote:
He will be out on License on a tag, so served exactly what anyone else would have served.
So his crime is still being paid for, so thats it.
His punishment was to go to prison, was NOT to lose his profession and livelihood.
Welcome back Troy ... Go for it !!!!!

DuffmanWFC wrote:
MJ1 what u on? Pozzo's and co wernt arround when Deeney was convicted for his offence. So what Tiny's gone... Yep he did well but his distribution of the ball was shocking and never looked comfortable with the ball at his feet! Good in the air and got stuck in but real quality centre halfs are good on the ball... The new arrivals will show you this. Also he is at the age where he isn't gonna improve anymore! The way GZ wants this team to play requires confidence on the ball.
And as for saying our club is now ruined as we've taken Deeney back is total rubbish! Everyone is entitled to a second chance u muppet.... Geeze not az if he's Joey Barton! And going onto this family club stuff we as WFC need more support from other areas other than a couple of thousand kids turning up with there un-vocal supporting mums & dads! Our club needs to attract people who want to see success and good football who will sing and bring some atmospher into the ground! Then the kids who go will feel pride in there school playground for being a Watford fan as then it will be quite cool to be a horn instead of being made fun at from a spurs, arsenal, chelsea, man u, liverpool fan!

garston 'orn wrote:

COGGDAVE1 wrote:
He will be out on License on a tag, so served exactly what anyone else would have served.
So his crime is still being paid for, so thats it.
His punishment was to go to prison, was NOT to lose his profession and livelihood.
Welcome back Troy ... Go for it !!!!!

Gonna be lovely to support a player with a tag around there leg, will be interesting to see if he can play tuesday night games. He might break his curfew....

MJ1 wrote:
So what does it say about Messrs Nani and Duxbury that our skipper and best player Martin Taylor can be deemed to be surplus to requirements and let go for what in football transfer terms is petty cash, whilst a convicted thug that almost killed someone is a valuable asset to be retained? I guess that morals and values are bad for business in the new style Watford FC ownership. I hope they've dropped the stapline, 'Watford - the family club' - oh yes I see they have!

DuffmanWFC wrote:
MJ1 what u on? Pozzo's and co wernt arround when Deeney was convicted for his offence. So what Tiny's gone... Yep he did well but his distribution of the ball was shocking and never looked comfortable with the ball at his feet! Good in the air and got stuck in but real quality centre halfs are good on the ball... The new arrivals will show you this. Also he is at the age where he isn't gonna improve anymore! The way GZ wants this team to play requires confidence on the ball.
And as for saying our club is now ruined as we've taken Deeney back is total rubbish! Everyone is entitled to a second chance u muppet.... Geeze not az if he's Joey Barton! And going onto this family club stuff we as WFC need more support from other areas other than a couple of thousand kids turning up with there un-vocal supporting mums & dads! Our club needs to attract people who want to see success and good football who will sing and bring some atmospher into the ground! Then the kids who go will feel pride in there school playground for being a Watford fan as then it will be quite cool to be a horn instead of being made fun at from a spurs, arsenal, chelsea, man u, liverpool fan!

MJ1 wrote:
So what does it say about Messrs Nani and Duxbury that our skipper and best player Martin Taylor can be deemed to be surplus to requirements and let go for what in football transfer terms is petty cash, whilst a convicted thug that almost killed someone is a valuable asset to be retained? I guess that morals and values are bad for business in the new style Watford FC ownership. I hope they've dropped the stapline, 'Watford - the family club' - oh yes I see they have!

McHornet wrote:
Tiger Bay, if you think Deeney is bad, i dread to think what your opinion of Garner is...

dal8oy wrote:

MJ1 wrote:
So what does it say about Messrs Nani and Duxbury that our skipper and best player Martin Taylor can be deemed to be surplus to requirements and let go for what in football transfer terms is petty cash, whilst a convicted thug that almost killed someone is a valuable asset to be retained? I guess that morals and values are bad for business in the new style Watford FC ownership. I hope they've dropped the stapline, 'Watford - the family club' - oh yes I see they have!

What a pathetic post. I bet you were there cheering on Marlon King when he was banging the goals............ Yes thought so.

goldanboy wrote:
The thug is out and with 38 other players in the side let's get rid of the 'deadwood' and sell him on to a league one side. And yes I think Marlon King is one of the most exciting players I have ever seen in a Watford top, but I still have the right to dislike the cowardly man he was.

Bush Hornet wrote:
Boo! hiss! Castration!

That's what I think of people who say Tiny Taylor couldn't pass.

As for Deeney, what's done is done. Onwards and upwards. More interested in seeing Geijo play.

garston 'orn wrote:
"he's fat he's round he'll kick you when your dow, Troy Deeney,troy Deeney"

cliff46 wrote:
I dont care if it is Deeney or anyone else there really is something very wrong about a 10 month sentence reducing to this extent.

onlyonerodthomas wrote:
11 weeks for a ten month sentence.the victims must be furious with that.i for one cant see him getting in the team.he is gonna be seriously unfit.

SAHornet wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
MJ1 what u on? Pozzo's and co wernt arround when Deeney was convicted for his offence. So what Tiny's gone... Yep he did well but his distribution of the ball was shocking and never looked comfortable with the ball at his feet! Good in the air and got stuck in but real quality centre halfs are good on the ball... The new arrivals will show you this. Also he is at the age where he isn't gonna improve anymore! The way GZ wants this team to play requires confidence on the ball.
And as for saying our club is now ruined as we've taken Deeney back is total rubbish! Everyone is entitled to a second chance u muppet.... Geeze not az if he's Joey Barton! And going onto this family club stuff we as WFC need more support from other areas other than a couple of thousand kids turning up with there un-vocal supporting mums & dads! Our club needs to attract people who want to see success and good football who will sing and bring some atmospher into the ground! Then the kids who go will feel pride in there school playground for being a Watford fan as then it will be quite cool to be a horn instead of being made fun at from a spurs, arsenal, chelsea, man u, liverpool fan!

Yep, like !

lutondown wrote:

cliff46 wrote:
I dont care if it is Deeney or anyone else there really is something very wrong about a 10 month sentence reducing to this extent.

Seems to be that way when life is Five or so years. Judges praising burgulars 'bravery'. Paedos let loose etc etc
The law is an ****, but let's let this pass, we've all declared where we sit on this, and if he dons a yellow shirt I will support him as I did Coton and King.

cliff46 wrote:
Lutondown
He has done the sentence he was given, so its not his fault that as you say that the law is an *** .
I read the appalling item in the Wobbly news items re the paedo in Watford who committed numerous offences and got only 5 1/2 years.
The world truly has gone mad!

lutondown wrote:

garston 'orn wrote:
"he's fat he's round he'll kick you when your dow, Troy Deeney,troy Deeney"

Yeah ok you've repeated that on several posts, perhaps you'd like to sing that to Troy outside the ground
Thought not

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

cliff46 wrote:
Lutondown
He has done the sentence he was given, so its not his fault that as you say that the law is an *** .
I read the appalling item in the Wobbly news items re the paedo in Watford who committed numerous offences and got only 5 1/2 years.
The world truly has gone mad!

The worst thing the prison system ever did was seperating peadoes from normal prisoners. At least when they mixed and were blinded or had there throats cut you knew they had been dealt with!

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
Handy - we were running short of players.

Holly68 wrote:
My observation is to get out after 11 weeks of a 10 month sentence he must've been immaculately well behaved, shown remorse and done positive things, long may this continue.

I hope the club have been paying his wages to the victim, and Troy meets the victim and understands the grief he caused him and the victims family, and in a strange way they can become friends and Troy invites him to a Watford game and uses his experience to convince others this is not the way to behave, and Alcohol is a demon when too much consumed

Then we all learn and move forwards

Andrew1963 wrote:
Taylor was very comfortable playing the ball out of defence, then the midfield would hoof it out (Eustace in particular seemed to like the 'up and under').
Deeney retained (his registration and contract) only because he will be sold in January window. I expect he will take at least 6 weeks to get anywhere near match fitness - Has not played a competitive match for 20 weeks+.
If by November the team is desperate for goals I expect Zola might be joining Troy on the way out.

goldanboy wrote:
The thug is out and with 38 other players in the side let's get rid of the 'deadwood' and sell him on to a league one side. And yes I think Marlon King is one of the most exciting players I have ever seen in a Watford top, but I still have the right to dislike the cowardly man he was.

Henry VIII wrote:
I don't care about the fact this is a Watford FC player, I care more that the justice system reduces the length of the punishment so quickly. Should he get a second chance? Well, I think everyone deserves that but the bigger picture (bigger than our squad) is that the legal system seems to reward good behaviour far too quickly. As for Marlon King, yes I certainly supported him during our promotion year and up until his unfortunate injury, but there is no way that this kind of person should ever be allowed to play the game. Just my opinion, but King is a sicko and I am sure that someday he will bite off more than he can chew. I certainly hope so, he is no sports icon, no longer a legend and the foorball world is better off with scum like that. I hope we let Deeney go, things like this just leave a sour taste, if he goes to another club, keeps straight then best of luck, but it took him a few months to say sorry - for those of you who forgot.

MJ1 wrote:
So what does it say about Messrs Nani and Duxbury that our skipper and best player Martin Taylor can be deemed to be surplus to requirements and let go for what in football transfer terms is petty cash, whilst a convicted thug that almost killed someone is a valuable asset to be retained? I guess that morals and values are bad for business in the new style Watford FC ownership. I hope they've dropped the stapline, 'Watford - the family club' - oh yes I see they have!

buckler wrote:
Big party at Bliss nightclub hopefully to celebrate Troy coming out! Work hard son and starting banging in the goals! Watford 9..

Holly68 wrote:
My observation is to get out after 11 weeks of a 10 month sentence he must've been immaculately well behaved, shown remorse and done positive things, long may this continue.

I hope the club have been paying his wages to the victim, and Troy meets the victim and understands the grief he caused him and the victims family, and in a strange way they can become friends and Troy invites him to a Watford game and uses his experience to convince others this is not the way to behave, and Alcohol is a demon when too much consumed

Then we all learn and move forwards

Harrydownunder wrote:
The justice system fails the country once again. 11 weeks for a ten month sentence is a disgrace!

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Fear Hornet Cornet there are only 2 people who will decide if Deeney has a future at WFC - that's Zola and Deeney himself!
If he shows Zola commitment along with goals/good performance then he will stay! If Deeney doesn't perform then Zola will let him go or loan or sell depending on contractural basis as I'm sure he's broke his terms of his contract and could be released without compensation. Me personally thinks if he can add to our team and plays well then fine he stays!

Chris the Vic wrote:
Not sure about Marlon's history pre Watford. jailed for joy ring. Post watford assaulted a girl and served time..glad he was not with us. Whereas Troy committed his brutal attack whilst with us...a big difference. The point is has he shown contrition or was his apology because he was getting out a week later. Is that showing remorse or being pragmatic.

When WFC were first tagged a family club we go back to the Div 3 year with GT when we had crowds of 28k against the likes of Hull and Shrewsbury and the ground rocked. We beat Nottingam F 4.1 when they were current European Champions , smashed Southampton 7.1 and the ground was never quiet. Being a family club did not turn us into a library it is the current supporters who have achieved that. We could take thousands to Wimbledon, Bourne,mouth, Southport, a special train to Halifax and when we visited West Ham, Man U in cup games we were their in masses. The chant of 'There is only one Luther Blissett' bouncing all round Old Trafford was the opposite to a library but the players and manager were part of our community. Ian B and Sam E drinking in the supporters club that was the closeness. Now we get excited by Massey walking up Vicarage Road. How times have changed and how people on hear try and distort fact. The Family club tag was there when we finished with 90 clubs below us, played in Europe etc so never ever blame the tag...try the fans who never turn up. A full house and the good times might be just around the corner.

Singhorn72 wrote:
First things first, we need to check and see if his muscles are balanced.

wheelsonfire wrote:
Sadly the difference between Marlon King and Tony Coton and Deeney is that they had some talent. In fact more than some. Deeney is the worst striker we have had since Jamie Moralee and was only purchased by Malky because he thought we would be relegated the next season. If Marlon Sordell had stayed he probably would not have scored at all.

Hornet Cornet wrote:

Harrydownunder wrote:
The justice system fails the country once again. 11 weeks for a ten month sentence is a disgrace!

couldn't agree more. we should do the right thing and kick him out of our club. he has hardly been punished.

qetu1358 wrote:
The man should be sacked and never wear a Watford shirt again.

Some of us care about standards and principles.

Too many posters on here care nothing about what Watford did and should stand for.

Bush Hornet wrote:

Hornet Cornet wrote:

Harrydownunder wrote: The justice system fails the country once again. 11 weeks for a ten month sentence is a disgrace!

couldn't agree more. we should do the right thing and kick him out of our club. he has hardly been punished.

The muse has left the cornet. I'll step in if I may: Deeney Deeney Deeney He's a real meany Much worse than Barry Sheeney But he's got no motorbike

Hornet Cornet wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:

Hornet Cornet wrote:

Harrydownunder wrote: The justice system fails the country once again. 11 weeks for a ten month sentence is a disgrace!

couldn't agree more. we should do the right thing and kick him out of our club. he has hardly been punished.

The muse has left the cornet. I'll step in if I may: Deeney Deeney Deeney He's a real meany Much worse than Barry Sheeney But he's got no motorbike

That Bush Hornet, is a majestic work of art. Outstanding.

My new piece is a controversial one and is provisionally titled 'Deeney is a tw4t'.

qetu1358 wrote:
Well here is one example:-

Marlon King sacked by Wigan Athletic after being jailed for assault on woman

http://www.guardian.

co.uk/football/2009/

oct/29/marlon-king-c

onvicted-of-assault

Do you want more?

Hornet Cornet wrote:
londomollari, I had to put the '4' into tw4t so that i doesn't cause offence to our younger viewers. I'd be amazed if Deeney is reading this anyway, there are some words he wont comprehend in the messages, such as decency and integrity. He's tw4t.

londomollari wrote:

Hornet Cornet wrote: londomollari, I had to put the '4' into tw4t so that i doesn't cause offence to our younger viewers. I'd be amazed if Deeney is reading this anyway, there are some words he wont comprehend in the messages, such as decency and integrity. He's tw4t.

I did realise what the '4' was for---! I'm not Troy Deeney, after all.

Colin West's mullet wrote:

MJ1 wrote:
So what does it say about Messrs Nani and Duxbury that our skipper and best player Martin Taylor can be deemed to be surplus to requirements and let go for what in football transfer terms is petty cash, whilst a convicted thug that almost killed someone is a valuable asset to be retained? I guess that morals and values are bad for business in the new style Watford FC ownership. I hope they've dropped the stapline, 'Watford - the family club' - oh yes I see they have!

I think you'll find those are universla football business principles - we are not breaking the mold by having him back and it's a weak, cheap & lazy pot-shot to suggest this is somehow symptomatic of the new regime.

None of us wanted to see Tiny go, however he wanted a longer contract than the new (and correct) club policy allows.

We WILL benefit from the Pozzos 'buy young, develop, sell on' policy, and remember that Taylor asked for the move once he was aware that SW would offe rhim a better contract (that he knows may well be his last) - it's not as if we threw him out the door.

Colin West's mullet wrote:

Holly68 wrote:
My observation is to get out after 11 weeks of a 10 month sentence he must've been immaculately well behaved, shown remorse and done positive things, long may this continue.

I hope the club have been paying his wages to the victim, and Troy meets the victim and understands the grief he caused him and the victims family, and in a strange way they can become friends and Troy invites him to a Watford game and uses his experience to convince others this is not the way to behave, and Alcohol is a demon when too much consumed

Then we all learn and move forwards

good grief - has someone hacked your account?

"My observation is to get out after 11 weeks of a 10 month sentence he must've been immaculately well behaved, shown remorse and done positive things"

yes, because early release is so rare, isn't it? And remorse - well of course he issued a full and unconditional apology as soon as he was convicted, rather than via sky Sports as soon as his asgent found out he was coming out soon. Positive things - I have no doubt he led an adult literacy course and was in chapel every morning.

"I hope the club have been paying his wages to the victim"

??the club didn't kick the guy's head in. I assume the club has not been paying TD while he's in prison (as he's not available for work). The club bears no repsonsibility for what happened, and your suggestion is on the wrong side of the nutty line.

and in a strange way they can become friends "

words fail me.
"

wheelsonfire wrote:
Sadly the difference between Marlon King and Tony Coton and Deeney is that they had some talent. In fact more than some. Deeney is the worst striker we have had since Jamie Moralee and was only purchased by Malky because he thought we would be relegated the next season.
If Marlon Sordell had stayed he probably would not have scored at all.

SAHornet wrote:

wheelsonfire wrote:
Sadly the difference between Marlon King and Tony Coton and Deeney is that they had some talent. In fact more than some. Deeney is the worst striker we have had since Jamie Moralee and was only purchased by Malky because he thought we would be relegated the next season.
If Marlon Sordell had stayed he probably would not have scored at all.

Marlon Sordell (said in a contemptuous voice)

Colin West's mullet wrote:

buckler wrote:
Big party at Bliss nightclub hopefully to celebrate Troy coming out! Work hard son and starting banging in the goals! Watford 9..

the Watford strikers classic night out

9pm expensive champagne all round
10.30 sexually assualt a young woman
11.45 kick a student half-to-death outside
12.15 kebab, home to wife & family

qetu1358 wrote:
londomollari

That's a very cynical view, which I do however accept is partly true.

But it does not follow that all football clubs should be the same.

If I did 1/2 of what Deeney did, I would be sacked from my job as would most people.

I do accept if anyone wonders that he can be reemployed by another club if they so wish and I don't think that any criminal conviction should result in the sack - just when people go to prison.

DAVE THE HORNET wrote:
buckler says...
6:27pm Mon 10 Sep 12

Big party at Bliss nightclub hopefully to celebrate Troy coming out! Work hard son and starting banging in the goals! Watford 9..”


So, Troy is the first gay footballer in the Championship, outstanding! Or have I missed something?

wheelsonfire wrote:
Not quite what I meant Lutondown although see what you mean.
Morally I don't think we should have him back but the argument that he could do a good job for us I think is also wrong. Although he was top scorer last season he was no Danny Graham and it was a very poor team who played some of the worst football i've seen at the Vic in 40 odd years. On parr with the hoofball days of Mr Boothroyd and maybe with even less class.

lutondown wrote:

wheelsonfire wrote:
Not quite what I meant Lutondown although see what you mean.
Morally I don't think we should have him back but the argument that he could do a good job for us I think is also wrong. Although he was top scorer last season he was no Danny Graham and it was a very poor team who played some of the worst football i've seen at the Vic in 40 odd years. On parr with the hoofball days of Mr Boothroyd and maybe with even less class.

I know! I think it's a pointless debate Tbh, as the type of player Zola requires did not play for us last year. Murray, Hogg excepted. But Troy has a market value and we should exploit that, after all we are a business not a giveaway charity.
As for your view on last seasons football, could not agree more

D.unstable wrote:

lutondown wrote:

wheelsonfire wrote:
Not quite what I meant Lutondown although see what you mean.
Morally I don't think we should have him back but the argument that he could do a good job for us I think is also wrong. Although he was top scorer last season he was no Danny Graham and it was a very poor team who played some of the worst football i've seen at the Vic in 40 odd years. On parr with the hoofball days of Mr Boothroyd and maybe with even less class.

I know! I think it's a pointless debate Tbh, as the type of player Zola requires did not play for us last year. Murray, Hogg excepted. But Troy has a market value and we should exploit that, after all we are a business not a giveaway charity.
As for your view on last seasons football, could not agree more

Absolutely agree LD, sell him like a whore!!! I do not care for Deeney, just my club and if we can benefit in any way by selling him to recoup some or all of our investment then great.

We rip up his contract and some other club with no morals will pick him up on a free and probably give him a nice signing on fee to add insult to the injury that he caused.

Singhorn72 wrote:
First things first, we need to check and see if his muscles are balanced.

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:
I don't care about the fact this is a Watford FC player, I care more that the justice system reduces the length of the punishment so quickly. Should he get a second chance? Well, I think everyone deserves that but the bigger picture (bigger than our squad) is that the legal system seems to reward good behaviour far too quickly. As for Marlon King, yes I certainly supported him during our promotion year and up until his unfortunate injury, but there is no way that this kind of person should ever be allowed to play the game. Just my opinion, but King is a sicko and I am sure that someday he will bite off more than he can chew. I certainly hope so, he is no sports icon, no longer a legend and the foorball world is better off with scum like that. I hope we let Deeney go, things like this just leave a sour taste, if he goes to another club, keeps straight then best of luck, but it took him a few months to say sorry - for those of you who forgot.

So good King H, you've cast your opinion on King and Deeney, what's your position on Coton? Just to remind you GT saved him from a stone wall jail sentence in the eighties.
I think all this debate is proof on how Watfords supporter base has moved to the sanctimonious lot they are now.
But that's just my opinion!

Henry VIII wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:
I don't care about the fact this is a Watford FC player, I care more that the justice system reduces the length of the punishment so quickly. Should he get a second chance? Well, I think everyone deserves that but the bigger picture (bigger than our squad) is that the legal system seems to reward good behaviour far too quickly. As for Marlon King, yes I certainly supported him during our promotion year and up until his unfortunate injury, but there is no way that this kind of person should ever be allowed to play the game. Just my opinion, but King is a sicko and I am sure that someday he will bite off more than he can chew. I certainly hope so, he is no sports icon, no longer a legend and the foorball world is better off with scum like that. I hope we let Deeney go, things like this just leave a sour taste, if he goes to another club, keeps straight then best of luck, but it took him a few months to say sorry - for those of you who forgot.

So good King H, you've cast your opinion on King and Deeney, what's your position on Coton? Just to remind you GT saved him from a stone wall jail sentence in the eighties.
I think all this debate is proof on how Watfords supporter base has moved to the sanctimonious lot they are now.
But that's just my opinion!

I remember Coton as a brilliant keeper and a hard man, he used to hang around with Mick Harford of Luton not the most pleasant of double acts to come across in a dark alley! I just feel that the law is an ****, a sentence should be a sentence. A crime is a crime and the majority of people know right from wrong, and the legal system really should get its head out of its ar$e. Bring back hanging, Spangles, Vision On and the Magic Roundabout....plus It's a Knockout with Stuart Hall and Eddie Wearing. Good times!

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:
I don't care about the fact this is a Watford FC player, I care more that the justice system reduces the length of the punishment so quickly. Should he get a second chance? Well, I think everyone deserves that but the bigger picture (bigger than our squad) is that the legal system seems to reward good behaviour far too quickly. As for Marlon King, yes I certainly supported him during our promotion year and up until his unfortunate injury, but there is no way that this kind of person should ever be allowed to play the game. Just my opinion, but King is a sicko and I am sure that someday he will bite off more than he can chew. I certainly hope so, he is no sports icon, no longer a legend and the foorball world is better off with scum like that. I hope we let Deeney go, things like this just leave a sour taste, if he goes to another club, keeps straight then best of luck, but it took him a few months to say sorry - for those of you who forgot.

So good King H, you've cast your opinion on King and Deeney, what's your position on Coton? Just to remind you GT saved him from a stone wall jail sentence in the eighties.
I think all this debate is proof on how Watfords supporter base has moved to the sanctimonious lot they are now.
But that's just my opinion!

I remember Coton as a brilliant keeper and a hard man, he used to hang around with Mick Harford of Luton not the most pleasant of double acts to come across in a dark alley! I just feel that the law is an ****, a sentence should be a sentence. A crime is a crime and the majority of people know right from wrong, and the legal system really should get its head out of its ar$e. Bring back hanging, Spangles, Vision On and the Magic Roundabout....plus It's a Knockout with Stuart Hall and Eddie Wearing. Good times!

Ok you liked the fact that Coton was a hard man, but that does not answer the fact he was saved a prison sentence for affray.
I never heard one question about WFC or GTs morals when we bought him.
I was a massive T C fan but you can't pick and choose when it comes to setting moral standards, can you?
I take it when you talk of Coton it does not leave a sour taste in your mouth?
But on the hanging, the law is an
as s and spangles I agree.
The magic roundabout, vision on,absolute pants and you can't have its a knock out because Waring is dead. But if you was to resurrect Superstars I'd be with you.
Anyway off with your head, see how you like it!

Bush Hornet wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:
I don't care about the fact this is a Watford FC player, I care more that the justice system reduces the length of the punishment so quickly. Should he get a second chance? Well, I think everyone deserves that but the bigger picture (bigger than our squad) is that the legal system seems to reward good behaviour far too quickly. As for Marlon King, yes I certainly supported him during our promotion year and up until his unfortunate injury, but there is no way that this kind of person should ever be allowed to play the game. Just my opinion, but King is a sicko and I am sure that someday he will bite off more than he can chew. I certainly hope so, he is no sports icon, no longer a legend and the foorball world is better off with scum like that. I hope we let Deeney go, things like this just leave a sour taste, if he goes to another club, keeps straight then best of luck, but it took him a few months to say sorry - for those of you who forgot.

So good King H, you've cast your opinion on King and Deeney, what's your position on Coton? Just to remind you GT saved him from a stone wall jail sentence in the eighties.
I think all this debate is proof on how Watfords supporter base has moved to the sanctimonious lot they are now.
But that's just my opinion!

I remember Coton as a brilliant keeper and a hard man, he used to hang around with Mick Harford of Luton not the most pleasant of double acts to come across in a dark alley! I just feel that the law is an ****, a sentence should be a sentence. A crime is a crime and the majority of people know right from wrong, and the legal system really should get its head out of its ar$e. Bring back hanging, Spangles, Vision On and the Magic Roundabout....plus It's a Knockout with Stuart Hall and Eddie Wearing. Good times!

Ok you liked the fact that Coton was a hard man, but that does not answer the fact he was saved a prison sentence for affray.
I never heard one question about WFC or GTs morals when we bought him.
I was a massive T C fan but you can't pick and choose when it comes to setting moral standards, can you?
I take it when you talk of Coton it does not leave a sour taste in your mouth?
But on the hanging, the law is an
as s and spangles I agree.
The magic roundabout, vision on,absolute pants and you can't have its a knock out because Waring is dead. But if you was to resurrect Superstars I'd be with you.
Anyway off with your head, see how you like it!

What was Coton's crime? I just vaguely remember his bad boy reputation.

lutondown wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Henry VIII wrote:
I don't care about the fact this is a Watford FC player, I care more that the justice system reduces the length of the punishment so quickly. Should he get a second chance? Well, I think everyone deserves that but the bigger picture (bigger than our squad) is that the legal system seems to reward good behaviour far too quickly. As for Marlon King, yes I certainly supported him during our promotion year and up until his unfortunate injury, but there is no way that this kind of person should ever be allowed to play the game. Just my opinion, but King is a sicko and I am sure that someday he will bite off more than he can chew. I certainly hope so, he is no sports icon, no longer a legend and the foorball world is better off with scum like that. I hope we let Deeney go, things like this just leave a sour taste, if he goes to another club, keeps straight then best of luck, but it took him a few months to say sorry - for those of you who forgot.

So good King H, you've cast your opinion on King and Deeney, what's your position on Coton? Just to remind you GT saved him from a stone wall jail sentence in the eighties.
I think all this debate is proof on how Watfords supporter base has moved to the sanctimonious lot they are now.
But that's just my opinion!

I remember Coton as a brilliant keeper and a hard man, he used to hang around with Mick Harford of Luton not the most pleasant of double acts to come across in a dark alley! I just feel that the law is an ****, a sentence should be a sentence. A crime is a crime and the majority of people know right from wrong, and the legal system really should get its head out of its ar$e. Bring back hanging, Spangles, Vision On and the Magic Roundabout....plus It's a Knockout with Stuart Hall and Eddie Wearing. Good times!

Ok you liked the fact that Coton was a hard man, but that does not answer the fact he was saved a prison sentence for affray.
I never heard one question about WFC or GTs morals when we bought him.
I was a massive T C fan but you can't pick and choose when it comes to setting moral standards, can you?
I take it when you talk of Coton it does not leave a sour taste in your mouth?
But on the hanging, the law is an
as s and spangles I agree.
The magic roundabout, vision on,absolute pants and you can't have its a knock out because Waring is dead. But if you was to resurrect Superstars I'd be with you.
Anyway off with your head, see how you like it!

What was Coton's crime? I just vaguely remember his bad boy reputation.

Affray, same as Deeney!

Chris the Vic wrote:
Not sure about Marlon's history pre Watford. jailed for joy ring. Post watford assaulted a girl and served time..glad he was not with us. Whereas Troy committed his brutal attack whilst with us...a big difference. The point is has he shown contrition or was his apology because he was getting out a week later. Is that showing remorse or being pragmatic.

When WFC were first tagged a family club we go back to the Div 3 year with GT when we had crowds of 28k against the likes of Hull and Shrewsbury and the ground rocked. We beat Nottingam F 4.1 when they were current European Champions , smashed Southampton 7.1 and the ground was never quiet. Being a family club did not turn us into a library it is the current supporters who have achieved that. We could take thousands to Wimbledon, Bourne,mouth, Southport, a special train to Halifax and when we visited West Ham, Man U in cup games we were their in masses. The chant of 'There is only one Luther Blissett' bouncing all round Old Trafford was the opposite to a library but the players and manager were part of our community. Ian B and Sam E drinking in the supporters club that was the closeness. Now we get excited by Massey walking up Vicarage Road. How times have changed and how people on hear try and distort fact. The Family club tag was there when we finished with 90 clubs below us, played in Europe etc so never ever blame the tag...try the fans who never turn up. A full house and the good times might be just around the corner.

garston 'orn wrote:
What president does this set for the other players! Next we will be signing Ched Evens and paying his wages hiles he's in jail