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One goal enough for Watford to edge out Charlton Athletic


Watford signed off their pre-season campaign with a hard-fought 1-0 victory over Charlton Athletic at Vicarage Road this afternoon.

An early goal from Danny Graham, with his fourth of the summer making him the top scorer of the warm-up matches, was to prove enough as the Hornets encouragingly completed back-to-back wins with successive clean sheets.

However, of potentially greater concern is the fact that the League One Addicks had the majority of the possession and created most of the chances in a game lacking many genuine clear-cut opportunities.

Malky Mackay made two changes from the side that beat Stevenage 2-0 on Tuesday night. Martin Taylor missed out with a minor knock, so Tom Aldred joined Adrian Mariappa at the heart of the defence, while the fit-again Will Buckley replaced Piero Mingoia on the left flank.

The Hornets started brightly and had a chance after a minute when Graham picked out Don Cowie at the far post, he headed back across goal, but no team-mate was up in support.

It didn’t take the visitors too long to create their first opportunity either, with Akpo Sodje laying the ball back to Alan McCormack, but his shot was blocked.

The game then went through a quiet spell until the eighth minute when the Hornets took the lead. Stephen McGinn continued his encouraging pre-season form with a shot that was blocked, Marvin Sordell’s follow-up was parried by keeper Rob Elliot, but all this did was present Graham with the simplest of finishes for his fourth goal of the summer.

The visitors tried to respond instantly, with Sodje dragging a shot across the target and wide before Scott Loach had to push behind Kyel Reid’s angled effort from the left side of the area.

The Addicks continued to have the better of things, with Therry Racon hitting a 25-yard effort over, but in the 23rd minute it took a good block by Christian Dailly to prevent Sordell potentially troubling Elliot after Graham and Buckley had combined to good effect down the left.

Charlton weren’t too far away from equaliser in the 29th minute when Racon hit a left-footed free-kick from 30 yards that sent Loach scrambling across as it went wide of his right-hand post, although he had it covered.

Scott Wagstaff then headed a Reid cross over, but the right midfielder went closer with a shot seven minutes before the interval with a left-footed effort that forced Loach to parry.

The traffic continued towards the Hornets’ goal as the interval approached, with former Hornets loanee Johnnie Jackson striking a left-footed free-kick from 20 yards narrowly over.

Watford had an opportunity to relieve some of the pressure two minutes before the break when they were awarded a free-kick in a central position around 30 yards out and Don Cowie rolled the ball to Sordell on the edge of the box, but he sliced his effort high and wide.

Another chance came and went soon after when John Eustace rolled a pass down the left side of the Charlton defence and Sordell got behind Gary Doherty, but the young striker was unable to pick out Graham in the middle from what was an admittedly awkward crossing situation.

That was to be Doherty’s last real involvement, as he was replaced by Miguel Llera at the start of the second period.

Charlton had the first meaningful attempt of the second half when a sweeping Chris Solly ball picked out McCormack in space on the left of the Hornets area, but he was unable to generate enough pace on his header to test Loach.

New signing Pawel Abbott replaced Jose Semedo after 54 minutes, as the visitors switched from a 4-5-1 formation to a 4-4-2, and then Mackay made his first change, with Eddie Oshodi coming on for Aldred after a solid enough display.

More changes from the visitors followed, but there was little happening of note on the pitch, except for a blocked Sordell shot, until the 66th minute when Loach made a fine save at the foot of his near post to keep out Racon’s strike.

That was the cue for Charlton to have another decent spell and three minutes later they missed a fine chance to equalise when substitute Yado Mambo flicked a free header wide from an Abbott corner.

Piero Mingoia replaced Sordell with 15 minutes remaining, with Buckley moving up front to partner Graham, but it was the visitors who were still having the better of the attacking play, with another replacement, Jonathan Fortune, firing straight at Loach.

However, Racon did his best to almost gift Watford a second with 12 minutes remaining with a sloppy pass in field which Graham quickly latched on to, but Elliot narrowed the angle and managed to block his angled shot.

But Watford were fortunate to escape in the 81st minute when Reid wriggled free near the goalline and sent in a cross, which Loach bizarrely decided to leave alone and then had to watch as the ball drifted dangerously across his six-yard box.

The visitors continued to push in the closing stages and they almost levelled in the last minute of normal time when Lloyd Doyley had to make a brave block following a scramble.

Watford: Loach; Hodson, Mariappa, Aldred (Oshodi 56), Doyley; Cowie, Eustace, McGinn, Buckley; Sordell (Mingoia 75), Graham. Substitutes: Gilmartin, Jenkins, Bryan, Whichelow and Henderson.

Charlton Athletic: Elliot, Solly (Mambo 63), Doherty (Llera 46), Dailly, Jackson; Wagstaff (Fortune 71), Semedo (Abbott 54), McCormack, Racon, Reid; Sodje (Bauza 63). Substitutes: Stavrinou and Marshall.

Attendance: 2,097 (Charlton contingent: 293).

Referee: Danny McDermid.

Comments(58)

Rick Almighty says...
5:15pm Sat 31 Jul 10

This games proves what i have been saying all along - that this team is, in effect, a league 1 side.

The three players who kept us in the division last season are gone. It is clear that unless similar additions are made in key areas then we will be comprehensively relegated.

I have absolutely no faith in the managerial skills of Mackay or that of his number 2. It will be a long hard season, and it will start under the worst possible circumstances with a crushing defeat to newly promoted Norwich next Friday.

As i predicted last week, we will finish September rooted firmly within the bottom 3. In fact, i can see us going down in a similar manner to Peterborough unless experienced additions are brought in and fast.

I know this will **** people off, but i wish the board had dispensed with Mackay after the Palace game. I truly believe that if the last two games of last season had not been played against teams with nothing left to compete for then we would have bee relegated. Those last two results simply served to paper over some very large cracks.

Continuity is all well and good - but not when its underachievement you are continuing.

smalon says...
5:19pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Rick Almighty wrote:
This games proves what i have been saying all along - that this team is, in effect, a league 1 side. The three players who kept us in the division last season are gone. It is clear that unless similar additions are made in key areas then we will be comprehensively relegated. I have absolutely no faith in the managerial skills of Mackay or that of his number 2. It will be a long hard season, and it will start under the worst possible circumstances with a crushing defeat to newly promoted Norwich next Friday. As i predicted last week, we will finish September rooted firmly within the bottom 3. In fact, i can see us going down in a similar manner to Peterborough unless experienced additions are brought in and fast. I know this will **** people off, but i wish the board had dispensed with Mackay after the Palace game. I truly believe that if the last two games of last season had not been played against teams with nothing left to compete for then we would have bee relegated. Those last two results simply served to paper over some very large cracks. Continuity is all well and good - but not when its underachievement you are continuing.
You made it back to L*ton pretty **** quick from the game!

Derek Payne says...
5:28pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Rick Almighty wrote:
This games proves what i have been saying all along - that this team is, in effect, a league 1 side.

The three players who kept us in the division last season are gone. It is clear that unless similar additions are made in key areas then we will be comprehensively relegated.

I have absolutely no faith in the managerial skills of Mackay or that of his number 2. It will be a long hard season, and it will start under the worst possible circumstances with a crushing defeat to newly promoted Norwich next Friday.

As i predicted last week, we will finish September rooted firmly within the bottom 3. In fact, i can see us going down in a similar manner to Peterborough unless experienced additions are brought in and fast.

I know this will **** people off, but i wish the board had dispensed with Mackay after the Palace game. I truly believe that if the last two games of last season had not been played against teams with nothing left to compete for then we would have bee relegated. Those last two results simply served to paper over some very large cracks.

Continuity is all well and good - but not when its underachievement you are continuing.
How does us beating probably the best league one side, prove we're a league one side. You really are a first class idiot.

Rick Almighty says...
5:28pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Oh grow up you prat. This Luton thing is tiresome. And for your information i didn't go today - and i'm glad i didn't!

Rustythesnowman says...
5:28pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Poor game but a win and keeping the fitness up , Don Cowie looked very much off the point and charlton fielding all but 1 of there subs we used 2 i do hope we can get these 4 or 5 signings before friday if not we will get battered by norwich

Elton Bog says...
5:39pm Sat 31 Jul 10

So Rick - you didn't go but you can draw enough info to decide we're League one at best. Knob-end. And as for 'we would have been relegated if the last 2 games weren't against nothing to play for teams' - have a look at the table, take 6 points from Watford's total and have another look. You utter, utter knob-end.

grahamwfc says...
5:45pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Rick Almighty wrote:
Oh grow up you prat. This Luton thing is tiresome. And for your information i didn't go today - and i'm glad i didn't!
SAYS IT ALL PRATT!
Password "with-mine" or in your case P-rick NOT!
cruel back under your stone

Rick Almighty says...
5:52pm Sat 31 Jul 10

grahamwfc wrote:
Rick Almighty wrote:
Oh grow up you prat. This Luton thing is tiresome. And for your information i didn't go today - and i'm glad i didn't!
SAYS IT ALL PRATT!
Password "with-mine" or in your case P-rick NOT!
cruel back under your stone
Learn to spell mate...and yes i realise i was wrong about the points total, however, if he had lost those two games it would have put an entirely different complexion on last season.

I love the way some of the keyboard warriors on here get so agitated when someone dares to say something against the grain.

There is always another way of looking at things - morons!

Johnny Ryden says...
6:11pm Sat 31 Jul 10

smalon wrote:
Rick Almighty wrote: This games proves what i have been saying all along - that this team is, in effect, a league 1 side. The three players who kept us in the division last season are gone. It is clear that unless similar additions are made in key areas then we will be comprehensively relegated. I have absolutely no faith in the managerial skills of Mackay or that of his number 2. It will be a long hard season, and it will start under the worst possible circumstances with a crushing defeat to newly promoted Norwich next Friday. As i predicted last week, we will finish September rooted firmly within the bottom 3. In fact, i can see us going down in a similar manner to Peterborough unless experienced additions are brought in and fast. I know this will **** people off, but i wish the board had dispensed with Mackay after the Palace game. I truly believe that if the last two games of last season had not been played against teams with nothing left to compete for then we would have bee relegated. Those last two results simply served to paper over some very large cracks. Continuity is all well and good - but not when its underachievement you are continuing.
You made it back to L*ton pretty **** quick from the game!
Methinks you doth protest too much Rick; hit a nerve have we? Occasional constructive critiscm is fine; not continued berating of everything anybody at the club is trying to do; you're not a true supporter of this club; you are a L*ton fan!

Michel Ngonge was Brilliant says...
6:32pm Sat 31 Jul 10

How did Aldred look?

Johnny Ryden says...
6:39pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Michel Ngonge was Brilliant wrote:
How did Aldred look?
Played well; good tackles; solid defensively; needs confidence to play the ball out of defence but this will come with more games.

Michel Ngonge was Brilliant says...
6:47pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Johnny Ryden wrote:
Michel Ngonge was Brilliant wrote:
How did Aldred look?
Played well; good tackles; solid defensively; needs confidence to play the ball out of defence but this will come with more games.
Thank you for the info. Good to know that he has potential!

Graham*Da*Best says...
7:08pm Sat 31 Jul 10

HA rick hates life !Why dont u go and watch ur non league losers every week ha.u cant even add up a couple of numbers!!

Itsacockup says...
7:27pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Like every other Watford player today - mediocre

Having seen all the friendlies bar the one at St Albans - Its not Division 1 I am worried about its Div 2 here we come and we we struggled against Barnet Northampton and Stevenage with results in the last 2 games flattering us.

It's not going to be an easy ride - and Mackay and Dyche genuinely seem out of their depth with the guys we have available at the moment and there is also a lot of finger waving by the players. And I was there today !

fairwater says...
7:49pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Itsacockup wrote:
Like every other Watford player today - mediocre Having seen all the friendlies bar the one at St Albans - Its not Division 1 I am worried about its Div 2 here we come and we we struggled against Barnet Northampton and Stevenage with results in the last 2 games flattering us. It's not going to be an easy ride - and Mackay and Dyche genuinely seem out of their depth with the guys we have available at the moment and there is also a lot of finger waving by the players. And I was there today !
We all know it is not going to be an easy ride, but we only lost one pre-season friendly for goodness sake, and that was by a single goal!
This sort of form will steer us clear of relegation, and with the promised arrival of 4 or 5 new players, perhaps even a mid-table finish?
BTW, why does everyone who posts something critical of this forum always become labelled a L*t*n fan?
I made one such posting a couple of weeks ago and was immediately labelled as L*t*n scum!!
It beggars belief, and is the ultimate insult to us true WFC fans.
Password: Leave Rick Alone

smalon says...
8:08pm Sat 31 Jul 10

fairwater wrote:
Itsacockup wrote: Like every other Watford player today - mediocre Having seen all the friendlies bar the one at St Albans - Its not Division 1 I am worried about its Div 2 here we come and we we struggled against Barnet Northampton and Stevenage with results in the last 2 games flattering us. It's not going to be an easy ride - and Mackay and Dyche genuinely seem out of their depth with the guys we have available at the moment and there is also a lot of finger waving by the players. And I was there today !
We all know it is not going to be an easy ride, but we only lost one pre-season friendly for goodness sake, and that was by a single goal! This sort of form will steer us clear of relegation, and with the promised arrival of 4 or 5 new players, perhaps even a mid-table finish? BTW, why does everyone who posts something critical of this forum always become labelled a L*t*n fan? I made one such posting a couple of weeks ago and was immediately labelled as L*t*n scum!! It beggars belief, and is the ultimate insult to us true WFC fans. Password: Leave Rick Alone
It's not that he criticises Watford it's that he churns out the same drivel over and over again.
You will notice that he never posts after a Watford win or whenever there is any good news about Watford.
How can you write off a team before the season has even started?
Hell, he was slagging us off even before we kicked a ball pre-season.
Don't forget the season Hoofers took us up we were relegation favourites then as well.

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...
8:10pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Why should we leave Rick alone? He is wrong most of the time.

WFC4ever says...
8:22pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Pretty poor performance really attack wise.

Good for Graham to score but we seemed pretty limited.

Loach spent most of the time thumping long balls down the middle which wasn't very effective despite the best efforts of Sordell and Graham etc.

Defence wasn't so bad...thought Eddie O looked better than the new guy when he came on.

Charlton had so much more pace and ball than us though and but for Loach could have won.

I was there BTW..;)

Also expected a tough season even before the Pre-season started and nothing has changed my mind.

Maybe if the manager returning on 14th August hadn't wasted so much dosh we'd be looking at a much brighter future but for now most would settle for just staying up.

scottwfc says...
8:32pm Sat 31 Jul 10

So can I summarise the views of the majority of the so-called fans on this thread.

Watford played a game of football today against one of the favourites for promotion from league 1. Watford WON this game against Charlton. Watford also kept a clean sheet this afternoon.

All of this, according to the wise sages who have posted so far means Watford will be relegated this season.

I guess all of the doom mongers have analysed our performances properly, and compared them to the results and performances of all the other teams in the Division to come to this conclusion?

After all I'm sure you are all aware that the mighty Norwich failed to beat Stevenage a few days before we beat them.

If not I guess its time to go and sit in a darkened room for a bit, till your sense or perspective returns and you remember to support your team for a change.

hornet in the toon says...
8:38pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Seems that it will be a tough season but I do not think we will go down. Neither do I think we'll be heading up! Mid table. Fair and square.

I agree that posting negative remarks on here instantaneously leads to you being branded a Fan of the Scum. But i think that that's too generous a label for Rick Aldickless. I don't think he knows much about anything, especially football. The glass is isn't even half-empty, it hasn't been filled.

bomber18 says...
8:52pm Sat 31 Jul 10

I don't believe some of the rubbish I read on this site.It;s all very well being a "true" supporter,well I can be said to be as such.After watching what can only be described as a dire game,I think we are in trouble.MM says he wants to sign 3 or 4 players.I would suggest 7 or 8 if we want to go onto better things.It's no good fans being content with mediocrity and being blind to the real;ity.Spend some money to get in some talent.Wasn't that Elton's concert supposed to do?

WFC4ever says...
9:02pm Sat 31 Jul 10

hornet in the toon wrote:
Seems that it will be a tough season but I do not think we will go down. Neither do I think we'll be heading up! Mid table. Fair and square. I agree that posting negative remarks on here instantaneously leads to you being branded a Fan of the Scum. But i think that that's too generous a label for Rick Aldickless. I don't think he knows much about anything, especially football. The glass is isn't even half-empty, it hasn't been filled.
Well I do agree it is wrong for people to comment about a game they never actually saw but Rick had made some decent points in the past when not going so mad.

However I don't agree about sacking Mackay now or that GT is to blame for the current problems at the club.

That lies with Simpson/Ashton and TBH I cannot think we'd get anyone much better experience wise than Mackay.

WFC4L says...
9:34pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Whilst I do not think that by any means we are safe to avoid relegation, yet again, P Rick has posted some abbbbbbbsolute dross. 1) The last game we had nothing to play for aswell
2) Just because Reading had nothign to play for does not mean they did not try
3) We drew to West Brom with their goal coming in the 97th minute
Regarding the result, Charlton are easily good enough for the Champ, so it does not prove anything, also, we won!? If you look at some of the other results, Oldham 3-0Bolton Preston 3-0Blackburn, does this mean that they are League 1 sides? Didn't thing so you deluded negative clueless ****. It's PRE SEASON, 2 seasons ago Tottenham won every pre season game, including a 5-1 win against Roma, they went on to be bottom of the league a while into the season. So **** you you clueless idiotic wayne-ker.

Derek Payne says...
9:56pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Everyone seems to overlooking the fact that we won today.

Derek Payne says...
9:56pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that we won today.

Derek Payne says...
9:57pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Derek Payne wrote:
Everyone seems to overlooking the fact that we won today.
forgot the be the first time

foreverorns says...
10:28pm Sat 31 Jul 10

where has jenkins gone? he was a fine player for us last 2 seasons , is he injured

Itsacockup says...
11:24pm Sat 31 Jul 10

Jenkins was there albeit on the bench.
There is something not quite ticking over in the dressing room - anyone that was at Northampton or today can tell. Jenkins didn't get a game at Stevenage but played well at Wealdstone ( and I was there . HAS MM LOST THE DRESSINGROOM - he's surrouned by academy boys so maybe not yet. But Eustace seemed to be losing his rag agaian today.

Itsacockup says...
11:38pm Sat 31 Jul 10

I have Just read MM on the WFC website. Just wonder if I was watching the same match today as Messrs Mckay and Dyche were!? This is desperate... and a few non blinkered or prejudiced people on here today realise that! However glad to see at one point the back four were all academy products. CYH

Itsacockup says...
11:38pm Sat 31 Jul 10

I have Just read MM on the WFC website. Just wonder if I was watching the same match today as Messrs Mckay and Dyche were!? This is desperate... and a few non blinkered or prejudiced people on here today realise that! However glad to see at one point the back four were all academy products. CYH

derry pigweed says...
11:43pm Sat 31 Jul 10

The lowest attendance for a home friendly for many years proves that the current board eg twits like julian winter who backed ashton and homer will continue to let our club down...!
Winter coudn't organise a party in Lapland!

WFCBigStu says...
12:15am Sun 1 Aug 10

Guys and Girls.......carm down......it's only a...... friendly. Everyone is entitled to an opinion so let's see how Friday pans out then let's judge. Just read on Walsall Vital, they reckon Deeney is defo on his way to Watford and they quoted MM.

WFCBigStu says...
12:17am Sun 1 Aug 10

Whoops.....my spelling..I mean Calm down.

bishopofwatford says...
8:27am Sun 1 Aug 10

well well well

i for one am optomistic about the coming season...we have some almost seasoned ,well experienced young players - loach ,marriappa etc and some exiting attacking prospects ...so come flock lets not contemplate our navels

there is one area of slight concern namely the striking / goal scoring dept ..i fear we are just not capable of putting teams under pressure and finishing them off if graham is not on target...i think we need and experienced player up along dg....where is heidar has he actually featured in any qpr games yet ??

as for marlon king well if we go for him then u can forget about this club being a family club ...that criminal shouls NEVER wear a watford shirt again...i for one will stop attending if he rejoins

anyway i must away the pews need polishing and our charchwarden mr dithers was so upset with the poor attendance at yesturdays afternioon service that hes taken himself of to a carboot sale in despair ...oohh dear

keep the faith

security words mass-yeah thats what we need vocal support at the game and constructive support thru these and other forums

Richard - Come On You Golden Boys! says...
8:29am Sun 1 Aug 10

It's time the moronic moaners on this site realised where we are at right now and just accepted the situation, rather than continue to post rubbish about how bad the board and management team are (which they are not).

From my perspective both are doing their utmost, in order to keep the club afloat and remain competitive on the field under very severe financial constraints which exist at the moment (not of their own making).

Talk of Malky losing the dressing room is simply ridiculous and criticism of Taylor is a disgrace.

Board & Manager are trying to add some more quality and depth to the squad, but with our limited resources please don't expect miracles overnight.

We are in for a difficult season and unless something unforeseen happens that dramatically changes our budget, a mid-table finish would be a good achievement.

So let's be a little more realistic but also positive, get behind the team and encourage them as best we can.

Constructive comments and different viewpoints are what makes this site interesting, but the constant abuse about everything and everybody from certain quarters is just tedious and suggests they are not really supporters of our club.

Btw re Jenkins, I thought he had a great first season (08/09) but don't think he's been the same player since returning from that back injury last year.

WFC4ever says...
9:47am Sun 1 Aug 10

Jenkins is more of a defensive central midfield player so its unfair to put the lad out wide because liek Cowie has han't got the pace to go past players.

Does have some good touches which maybe people don't spot.

I do feel we'd get more out of Buckley's potential if we did get the ball down and tried to pass although I accept its not easy on our own pitch!

Also Sordell has been much better with ball to feet than in the air.

tonupchris says...
10:28am Sun 1 Aug 10

I've never commented on this site before but have been reading other peoples comments for a while now and am staggered by the negativity. I'm sure some of the comments are just wind people up but some are so detremental to what the club is trying to do it beggars belief. We have no money. That is not Malkys fault and he is desperately trying to do what he can inside the financial parameters. I don't remember Lewington getting this amount of stick. I do agree that Dyche is probably not ideal as his job seems to be to berate the officials. We have some very promising young players coming through thanks to the academy and we may have to put with a couple of years of struggling against relegation but bearing in mind some of the best coaches in Europe rate this academy as one of the best says to me that some better times are not far away. With regards to pre season there is never any point in reading to much in to these as they are friendlies and nobody ever gives 100% in these. For those that can remember season 87/88 Dave Bassett came in and signed Trevoe Senior and we went through pre season beating everybody and scoring a hatful of goals and I think Senior got 5 in one game. The season started and we barely won a game all year and are top scorer in the league was Blisset with 4!
In summary get behind the team and the manager and remeber Blackpool were favourites to go down last season and when Boothroyd comes back in a couple of weeks give the guy a standing ovation as he is one of only two men to take this club to the top division which I still rate as a fantastic achievement.
Sorry for the long post but all this has been brewing for a while!

rookery boy says...
11:36am Sun 1 Aug 10

We won against quite a good side, but I cant help thinking that in some of our previous friendlies,we would have been better off playing better opposition,thus exposing our weaknesses!!
That way we would have possibly strengthened our squad by now,and hit the ground running!!
I question our obligation to play all local sides all the time....it has become very predictable,and teaches MM noyhing about his team!!

rousman 2 says...
11:54am Sun 1 Aug 10

bishopofwatford wrote:
well well well i for one am optomistic about the coming season...we have some almost seasoned ,well experienced young players - loach ,marriappa etc and some exiting attacking prospects ...so come flock lets not contemplate our navels there is one area of slight concern namely the striking / goal scoring dept ..i fear we are just not capable of putting teams under pressure and finishing them off if graham is not on target...i think we need and experienced player up along dg....where is heidar has he actually featured in any qpr games yet ?? as for marlon king well if we go for him then u can forget about this club being a family club ...that criminal shouls NEVER wear a watford shirt again...i for one will stop attending if he rejoins anyway i must away the pews need polishing and our charchwarden mr dithers was so upset with the poor attendance at yesturdays afternioon service that hes taken himself of to a carboot sale in despair ...oohh dear keep the faith security words mass-yeah thats what we need vocal support at the game and constructive support thru these and other forums
he has been given the number 9 shirt & has played in all the games so far, Rowan Vine has just had his contract paid up, so is a free agent but was a Scummer could we over look that as you say an area that needs looking at.

rousman 2 says...
12:05pm Sun 1 Aug 10

tonupchris wrote:
I've never commented on this site before but have been reading other peoples comments for a while now and am staggered by the negativity. I'm sure some of the comments are just wind people up but some are so detremental to what the club is trying to do it beggars belief. We have no money. That is not Malkys fault and he is desperately trying to do what he can inside the financial parameters. I don't remember Lewington getting this amount of stick. I do agree that Dyche is probably not ideal as his job seems to be to berate the officials. We have some very promising young players coming through thanks to the academy and we may have to put with a couple of years of struggling against relegation but bearing in mind some of the best coaches in Europe rate this academy as one of the best says to me that some better times are not far away. With regards to pre season there is never any point in reading to much in to these as they are friendlies and nobody ever gives 100% in these. For those that can remember season 87/88 Dave Bassett came in and signed Trevoe Senior and we went through pre season beating everybody and scoring a hatful of goals and I think Senior got 5 in one game. The season started and we barely won a game all year and are top scorer in the league was Blisset with 4! In summary get behind the team and the manager and remeber Blackpool were favourites to go down last season and when Boothroyd comes back in a couple of weeks give the guy a standing ovation as he is one of only two men to take this club to the top division which I still rate as a fantastic achievement. Sorry for the long post but all this has been brewing for a while!
good post well worth the wait. come on we all have our views on the game but lets be constructive. as we know there are certain people who can not wait for the Norwich game but for all the wrong reasons, I will be at the game on friday in the hope we get a good result, will you ?

Paul_Caruso says...
12:23pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Richard Brodie, 34 goals last season, Conference Player of the Year, 23 years old, must be worth a punt for under £350,000. Brodie 34 Conference goals, Deeney 14 League One goals, you say potato, I say patoto! Be careful what you wish for, happy with fourth bottom finish and a season nurturing the young 'uns for the future.

GrahamTaylor says...
1:26pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Some of the comments on here just are not constructive. How can you possibly offer constructive criticism if you couldn't be bothered to go? Get off MM's back too. Personally I didn't agree with his appointment however, in hindsight, we did not have any other options at the time. how many experienced mangers do you know who would accept the board selling every player you have and give you no money for replacements? Fact is before we replace the manager, if this is to be the case, fist we need to sort out the ownership of the club.

Back to the game, it was poor and yes I am worried however I expect / Hope 3 or 4 players to join on loan before the close of the window and that hopefully will add some quality to the side with many of those that started yesterday just providing some depth. We lacked a leader at the back Taylor I assume is injured? We still need a left back this will allow Doyley to move to right back and Hodson able to take a break and continue his development. We need a Lansbury type midfielder allowing McGinn to move to the wing or provide cover from the bench and a forward to Help Graham, Sordell is not ready whether he ever will or not is a different question. Budget permitting we could also do with a Cathcart type player on loan providing competition at the back From what I saw Aldred is a long way from the first team.

This seems a lot but if I am not mistaken MM has already said he wants 3 or 4 players so he is not stupid get behind him and the team we are going to need it this year! Sacking him is not the answer we are 2 or 3 seasons away from being able to challenge again in this league survival is a must. Fact is you have never been able to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear..

WMH says...
1:51pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Rick Almighty wrote:
Oh grow up you prat. This Luton thing is tiresome. And for your information i didn't go today - and i'm glad i didn't!
Yes it must be tiresome for you Colin but remember anybody who has popped into this cesspit of negativity and Luton trolls website over the years knows you for exactly what you are..............a fan of a failing conference side who blew their lines again last season and who's only pleasure is trying to wind up his bigger and better neighbours.

Word of advice though Colin; for your trolling to work it has to be somewhat less than universally and laughably negative on all occasions to fool anyone with a quarter of a brain.

Still Marlon is out now; let us know when you are next stalking him in Tescos ;)

fairwater says...
5:07pm Sun 1 Aug 10

WMH wrote:
Rick Almighty wrote: Oh grow up you prat. This Luton thing is tiresome. And for your information i didn't go today - and i'm glad i didn't!
Yes it must be tiresome for you Colin but remember anybody who has popped into this cesspit of negativity and Luton trolls website over the years knows you for exactly what you are..............a fan of a failing conference side who blew their lines again last season and who's only pleasure is trying to wind up his bigger and better neighbours. Word of advice though Colin; for your trolling to work it has to be somewhat less than universally and laughably negative on all occasions to fool anyone with a quarter of a brain. Still Marlon is out now; let us know when you are next stalking him in Tescos ;)
What a tiresome post by you as well WMH.
Password: Get A Life.

stevyweavy says...
6:49pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Rick Almighty wrote:
Oh grow up you prat. This Luton thing is tiresome. And for your information i didn't go today - and i'm glad i didn't!
Typical - The biggest mouth with the biggest anti comments and you didn't go. Please give it a rest and leave it to the true supporters to make informed comments who did go and watch the match. I went and yes it was a rubbish match but we did win with what will not be our final starting eleven. We will not stay up if that is the benchmark for the season but I like most of the other true supporters believe that what we saw was not the finished article and in all liklihood will end up somewhere mid table come the end of the season and yes we may flirt with relegation but that is the nature of the beast.

stevyweavy says...
6:53pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Michel Ngonge was Brilliant wrote:
How did Aldred look?
One for the future - showed promise but definitely not in the Williamson instant starter quality standard. Would definitely play Bennett ahead of him at present but that is not being negative against Aldred - he is just not ready yet but would expect him to come into contention second half of season.

stevyweavy says...
7:01pm Sun 1 Aug 10

Derek Payne wrote:
Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that we won today.
I think you will find if you read certain posts that we actually lost, have been relegated and are now in League 1. So you need to get your facts right lol

Robhornet says...
9:26pm Sun 1 Aug 10

I dont' expect any signings this week and think it maybe the 2nd half of August before the necessary reinforcements arrive.

I cant help feeling the success or otherwise of this club or in the next 3 to 5 years will be determined by how good the young lads coming out of the much talked about academy really are...

We must try and be positive before the season starts thou

WMH says...
7:47am Mon 2 Aug 10

fairwater wrote:
WMH wrote:
Rick Almighty wrote: Oh grow up you prat. This Luton thing is tiresome. And for your information i didn't go today - and i'm glad i didn't!
Yes it must be tiresome for you Colin but remember anybody who has popped into this cesspit of negativity and Luton trolls website over the years knows you for exactly what you are..............a fan of a failing conference side who blew their lines again last season and who's only pleasure is trying to wind up his bigger and better neighbours. Word of advice though Colin; for your trolling to work it has to be somewhat less than universally and laughably negative on all occasions to fool anyone with a quarter of a brain. Still Marlon is out now; let us know when you are next stalking him in Tescos ;)
What a tiresome post by you as well WMH. Password: Get A Life.
Well that put me straight. Got to learn to be kinder to Luton fans, even thinly disguised ones like yourself ;)

Password: 'Out' Scummers

goatswilly says...
8:22am Mon 2 Aug 10

Slightly off topic here but has anyone noticed the similarity between Marlon King and the nutjob Lucas from Eastenders.
Similar traits as well!!

fairwater says...
10:53am Mon 2 Aug 10

goatswilly wrote:
Slightly off topic here but has anyone noticed the similarity between Marlon King and the nutjob Lucas from Eastenders. Similar traits as well!!
Include WMH of London too!
What a weird bloke!
He knows so much about the scummers, he obviously is one!
Password: Stay In London.

Richard Johnson's Right Foot says...
12:30pm Mon 2 Aug 10

I've been observing this list for a while and am always interested in the debate, so thought it was time to chuck my thoughts in.

I attended the game on Saturday. While there were plus points, I thought we were a bit predictable and I agree with the comments on here saying we need some reinforcements. But then MM has said the same thing, so I'm unsure why anyone is having a go at him. He has signed some players with good potential, and if he was as clueless a manager as you are making out, why would the likes of Man U and Arsenal allow their youngsters to come here? Considering the players we had to let go last year, I think the football last season (with a few exceptions) was generally pretty good, and let's not forget, we avoided relegation which was probably the aim at the beginning of the season.

One thing that also should be remembered is that young players tend to be inconsistent, so Watford will suffer for this, and need the support from the sidelines more than ever.

To those who are criticising the management (ie MM and the board), can I ask them what they would do in the same situation? Which players would they bring in, and perhaps more importantly, how would they pay the wages without putting the club out of business?

COYH!

WMH says...
12:52pm Mon 2 Aug 10

fairwater wrote:
goatswilly wrote: Slightly off topic here but has anyone noticed the similarity between Marlon King and the nutjob Lucas from Eastenders. Similar traits as well!!
Include WMH of London too! What a weird bloke! He knows so much about the scummers, he obviously is one! Password: Stay In London.
Well you'd certainly know more about Marlon having stalked him around Tesco wouldn't you, you naughty little Luton multi-troller. You know Colin/ Colin Zip/Rick/ Fairwater you really need to give this up ;


Password; more like pass water

watfordal says...
1:04pm Mon 2 Aug 10

Happy New Season! This year will be even tougher than last year. I hope we survive, but I doubt it. The whingeing after WINNING a pre-season friendly is absurd. I shall always be a Watford fan regardless. I dread to think what the half wits will say on here if we lose on friday evening, which we probably will. Heading up the A11 on Friday full of hope nonetheless. Graham and Sorvell are our only real hopes. Defence is still poor.

stagg1 says...
3:32pm Tue 3 Aug 10

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sue47cooper says...
11:44am Thu 5 Aug 10

Seems to me that there is too much sniping at each other. I am a lifelong Watford supporter, I can no longer go to matches as I live in Spain, but I keep in touch through Watford World and Watford Observer. Lets have constructive critisism, and positive obsevations. I do wonder if some of you are truly Watford supporters.

mal will says...
11:27pm Thu 5 Aug 10

please can u all get behind the team and stop slagging everyone off.we could all be surprised and finish in the top half.com on u golden boys
sec-word think possitive

bomber18 says...
12:41pm Fri 6 Aug 10

mal will wrote:
please can u all get behind the team and stop slagging everyone off.we could all be surprised and finish in the top half.com on u golden boys sec-word think possitive
I will be amazed after watching us against Charlton but live in hope But to be realistic 18th position at the end of the season will do me.Might even invade the pitch in my wheelchair!!


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