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Edwards Griffiths disappointed with Saracens' attendances at Watford


Edward Griffiths says the inability to raise attendances at Vicarage Road is Saracens' biggest disappointment this season.

The chief executive has boosted the profile of the club by taking them to Wembley, where they will play for the third time this weekend against Worcester Warriors, but their matches in Watford have fallen well below their target of an average of 15,000.

Speaking at a fans' forum on Wednesday night, Griffiths said: "The single greatest disappointment this season is our inability to increase crowds at Vicarage Road. I don't want to make excuses but there are a couple of factors involved. We've had some really miserable nights in terms of temperature and weather which I think has affected the crowds to some degree.

"But there are issues at Vicarage Road which we all know about which is largely one of access and secondly of comfort within the stadium.

"Our position is we have a contract with Watford and we want to work with them to improve the facility and make that work better.

"Wembley has given us an opportunity to take the club to a place where I don't think any of us would have believed possible a year ago.

"If I'd sat here a year ago and said we'd play Northampton in front of 45,000 then play against South Africa on a Tuesday night and get nearly 48,000 and then play Worcester, during the Six Nations, and get over 40,000, I just don't think anyone would believe it.

"So Wembley has opened a new world for the club and that will be reflected in the kind of sponsorships and deals we've managed to conclude for next season.

"We have shown we're a club with ambition and this year more than 200,000 people will watch Saracens. I talked about an average crowd of 15,000 and if you take the Wembley games we won't be far off.

"However, that would be hiding the real issue which is our home matches and that is a major issue. It's something we have to work on and look at all the options.

"We're always looking at all the options but at the moment we're contractually committed to Vicarage Road and we're working with them. We have a good relationship with them and want to try and get the East Stand off the map and get a better East Stand, get the South-West corner kitted out and get the stadium up to what you'd want a top class entertainment venue to be like."

Saracens are aiming to attract 65,000 supporters to their fourth match at Wembley this season when they play Harlequins in April. The Guinness Premiership side have planned for four games at the stadium next season including a Heineken Cup game and a Boxing Day clash.

Griffiths also reiterated his disappointment at the booing from supporters towards the end of Sunday's defeat to Newport Gwent Dragons. Some of the crowd expressed their frustration after Derick Hougaard failed to find the target late on with several long-range drop goals and penalties.

But Griffiths said: "I think it's definitely disappointing because in any club with a winning culture that's just not what you'd hear. Some times people don't appreciate what's required to win in a sense.

"I made my views clear in September when it happened after the Gloucester game.

"We want to build a winning club and a winning club is through the directors, the staff, the coaches, players and the supporters. Winning clubs don't boo their own teams.

"We want to win, we make absolutely no apology for that at all. We don't want a three-year plan. We want to win the Premiership this year and we think we know how to but the booing doesn't help.

"We don't want to become a team that finds it easier to play away from home. I know it's only a small fraction but unfortunately the vocal minority sometimes get heard.

"We would like people increasingly to say 'what are you doing here? Why are you booing?’ People sitting next to these people to turn around and question them and say it's not helping.

"I can't sit here and say it's anything but negative and we're just trying to take all negativity out of the club in whatever form. It just doesn't work."

Comments(7)

garston edl says...
12:35pm Fri 12 Feb 10

I'm not a big rugby fan, certainly at club level so im really not bothered how Sararcens are doing. In fact i would like them to play all their games at Wembley and leave our pitch alone. Watford is a football town!!

worthing_hornet says...
12:40pm Fri 12 Feb 10

They want to improve the stadium? Have a chat with their mate Lord A (whose more of a rugby fan anyway?) and get him to pay for the east stand redevelopment

Prof Plum says...
1:31pm Fri 12 Feb 10

A trip to Vicarage Road is a low grade experience whatever shaped ball game you go there to watch. No doubt the football crowds would be higher too if the facilities on offer weren't so dismal.
What a crime it would be if the town lost the chance to host first class rugby, thanks to the incompetence of those responsible for running the football club who have allowed the stadium fall into such a shocking state of disrepair. Could there be a case for the council to take over ownership and management of Vicarage Road?

enlightened one says...
1:35pm Fri 12 Feb 10

Prof Plum wrote:
A trip to Vicarage Road is a low grade experience whatever shaped ball game you go there to watch. No doubt the football crowds would be higher too if the facilities on offer weren't so dismal. What a crime it would be if the town lost the chance to host first class rugby, thanks to the incompetence of those responsible for running the football club who have allowed the stadium fall into such a shocking state of disrepair. Could there be a case for the council to take over ownership and management of Vicarage Road?
Er no.

Victor Value says...
2:39pm Fri 12 Feb 10

It's quite simple Edward, if the product is any good, people will pay for it, if not they won't. Sarries business plan sought to use the Wembley games as a "loss-leader" to get people to the Vic. It seems though that folk go to Wembley to see the stadium and the pop groups rather than watch the dull grapple fest that egg-chasing is.

WFC4ever says...
2:43pm Fri 12 Feb 10

garston edl wrote:
I'm not a big rugby fan, certainly at club level so im really not bothered how Sararcens are doing. In fact i would like them to play all their games at Wembley and leave our pitch alone. Watford is a football town!!
I suspect that is what Mr Simpson and Ashton felt too..

;)

Trouble is we also could do with the 500k or so Sarries give us a year although maybe its time we shouldn't rely on them.

I know most of their fans feel the Vic is not a good place for them to be playing.

As PP suggests..if only certain people had kept the promise of a new stand/facilities rather than spending millions on overpaid/priced flops.

The training ground is better!

Shame actually because the Rookery is fairly decent now.

garston edl says...
3:54pm Fri 12 Feb 10

Yeh the Rookery isn't too bad now. Off the subject slightly but i do wish they'd something with the RedLion so that a few hundred fans could meet there pre-match for a beer and a sing song, get a bit of atmosphere going amongst the fans, which would hopefully carry over into the ground.The atmosphere in the ground has been cak this year, especially considering we've won alot of games at home.


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