Watford's winless run continues as Doncaster Rovers make it five wins in six (From Watford Observer)

I hope when you print the forward got goal side of lee hodson for the opener it is not the same lee hodson who should have been replaced after he had his nightmare at Stamford Bridge
obviously Malky has been done on his
blindside also!

I too am calling for the release of MM, maybe he'll be decent in time to come, we do not possess the time to stick it out with him, we are heading one way and incapable of getting any result away from home.
We could have gone down anyway with the 10 point deduction with all debts wiped out instead of hanging it out with him.
We should not let this transfer window go by with MM in charge, it would be simply such a waste!!

MALKY OUT!!!!

1 win in 8, haven't won away since October, 38 goals conceded, a team full of kids and misfits (Graham surely has to drop to the bench) only 6 goals scored in the last month. 2 points out of a possible 15. If that form continues we will be lucky to hit 50 points and we will surely be relegated.

I look at the fixture list and can't really see where the next win is coming from. Mackay is clearly out of his depth, there is no fear factor in the dressing room, he clearly cannot instill belief and i cannot see this team turning this form around as long as he is in charge.

I accept there is another two weeks left of the window, but the need to strengthen the defence is a matter of urgency. The longer he takes, the more points we will continue to lose. We must sign two new defenders and very quickly. We also need a striker with pace and if that means off loading Graham then so be it. Hoskins, moreover, must start in place of Graham next game.

Graham Taylor may drool over a relegation battle being acceptable, but this is a complete cop out and i for one find the comments of the Chairman offensive.

I am also concerned that, should relegation happen, the current management would be allowed to remain in the job.

Watford football club seems to me the only institution in the world where failure is acceptable.

Mackay has to go and go quickly. Anyone cheering his name is doing this club a disservice.

See you were all at the game supporting the team then!

Just looking at the league table. We could be down to 19th in two games time.

Just listened to that prat Neil Price - another blinkered fool who seems to think a relegation battle is acceptable.

Its not rocket science, players who must be taken out of the team by the end of the month:

Doyley, Hodson, Graham.

Has the manager got the guts and ruthlessness to enact these necessary changes? Of course not.

Therefore he must go and go now, along with Dyche.

Agree with Rick. His statistics of recent form are horrendous. The initial optimism re MM has gone. We are in freefall especially away from home. I am very worried now that we might well be relegated.

Hog out

After the QPR game everything looked good, we even moved into a play-off place as we'd played before all the other clubs. OK so we haven't won since then, that's what, 5 weeks ago? The fact that fans are posting that Malky should go and go quickly just shows everything that is wrong about football at the moment. So one month's bad results means you should get a new manager?!!!!!
Malky has the potential to be a great manager and given the time I believe he will become that at Watford. Who do you suggest we get instead? We can't afford anyone anyone else, certainly not anyone any better. We were meant to be favourites for relegation, we're 10 points above the relegation places so let's get behind Malky and the team and stop calling for him to go. It's not going to happen.

I see the club's resident idiots are really out in force this evening!!!!.
VoR wrote-we should not let this transfer window pass with MM in charge.
So we get rid of him and then what? We spend what little money we have left paying him and Sean off instead of bringing in one or two sensibly priced players??
Surely even you VoR and the depressive Rick holden must understand by now that your mate Simpson totally wasted all of our millions.
We will struggle to get people in and yet you two seem to suggest that is so easy.

I see VoR's favourite manager did well today looks like he might be back on the market soon!!!

Utter utter drivel and nonsense, that'sd what this bunch of 'football players' are churning out at the moment.

we've got nothing to scare anyone at all now, all confidence has gone, we're financially knackered and, despite all of this, I'll still support them.

I'm not deluded enough to believe that we won't end up in a relegation fight, because we will. Our players should be competing better and MM and SD need to prove their worth and get them motivated NOW as I really dont fancy going down to League 1.

Calls for MM to leave are premature - stick with MM for this season and maybe next season, then see how he's doing.

HC

It would be good to know why Malky persists with Hodson when he could simply move Doyley to the right and bring in Harley. Also why he persists with Graham, who has lost his confidence, and why he does not give Hoskins a run. The signing of McGinn might be OK but not if he is like Severin!!! Where is the Central Defender we so badly need? (If we signed one, or got one on loan, Mariappa might be moved to right back with Harley at left and Doyley left out all together). What is the point of keeping Sadler? Pay him off! Perhaps pay Severin off too! Where is the striker we also very badly need? Since Malky obviously does not rate Hoskins, get rid of him too and replace him with a striker who Malky will put into the team, and who can score goals. How about Kevin Phillips on loan? He might jump at the chance of playing first team football every week. I am not saying, as others have, that Malky must go but I do worry about his inexperience and inflexibility. Graham Taylor had Bertie Mee. Boothroyd had Burtenshaw. Rodgers had Frank Lampard senior. Malky has Sean Dyche?! Surely he needs someone with experience alongside him.

Actually I blame Maggie Thatcher's government for letting loonies like **** Holden out for Care in the Community.Secure asylums were more efficient---and as for letting him near a computer is downright foolishness!

feff
How can they pay up contracts when they have no money?
I like Hoskins and would like to see him have a few games but three managers have over looked him now so he clearly has issues. I doubt it has anything to do with MM's lack of experience.
Phillips is still useful but is probably on a wage approaching £20k a week so how do we afford even half of that?

Rick Holden
As usual you write mostly rubbish , although I do agree with your description of neil Price!!!

The mismanagement and dereliction of duty is down to Simpson and Ashton and Boothroyd.

What is it you don't understand about the words--WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bring in Tommy Mooney as an assistant. He would lift the club and the dressing room!

I would still love to see Kenny Jacket in the job, with the likes of Gibbs, Luther and Cotton as assistants. It would give the club the lift it really needs.

Jacket has gone on to prove himself to be a good manager and i'm sure we'd push for the play offs under his guidance. Yeah i know what people have said about his first spell in charge, but he had even less to work with than Mackay. He has the experience and i'm sure the backing of the fans.

Who is Mackay? Three years ago he was still a player. And i'm sure that is part of the problem, he doesn't seem to command any fear or respect in the dressing room. He is a soft touch with a charisma by-pass. If his team talks are as dreary as his post match interviews, its no wonder the players are not fired up and performing.

He should have been appointed with an experienced number 2 on a short term contract. I said months ago in a previous incarnation that this was a monumental mistake.

Yes we've played some good football, but it is not winning football and this team doesn't appear to have any guts or character. We all got deluded by some early victories but they seem in very short supply as the season really begins to kick in.

We are faced with a resurgent Sheff Wednesday, Ipswich and possibly Preston.

What we need is a manager who can instill confidence and belief and who isn't afraid to bring some experience into the team.

I don't care what Graham Taylor has said; he is wrong, and very wrong at that. He was out of touch with the modern game in 2001 and is very much more so today.

Let's use the compensation from Rodgers to bring in Jackett and Gibbs and give the fans something genuine to cheer about, rather than some misfit who scored his first goal in ten years.

The hype over Doyleys first goal was a real barometer as to how far this club has sunk. Could you imagine Brian Clough allowing that? Exactly. And it is this lowering of expectations that is allowing the likes of Mackay to take this club into freefall.

Please no abuse, lets have a snesible debate. I respect loyalty, but not blind loyalty. We''re in big trouble, but i really believe we don't have to be.

We sure are having a bad patch at the moment. But, given everything the manager has had to deal with, we are actually in a very safe position, as far as the table goes.
So, with a couple of changes of personel on the pitch (it might be time to give Graham a rest, for example), and a little tweaking here and there, I am sure results will once again pick up.
We are still nearer to the play offs and the big picture is that we would have taken that at the start of the season.
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To all those criticising MM, who the bloody hell do you think you are - what have you ever achieved and what do you know about running a football team at Championship level(or any level for that matter)?
Get your head straight and stop being so fickle. Getting behind the manager right now is 100% more helpful than constantly slagging him off.

cliff46 wrote:
Rick Holden
As usual you write mostly rubbish , although I do agree with your description of neil Price!!!

The mismanagement and dereliction of duty is down to Simpson and Ashton and Boothroyd.

What is it you don't understand about the words--WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We were as knackered financially before, then our 2nd most successful worked the miracle........
Your argument does not stack up.
Also by not getting results and playing utter tosh will not bring the badly needed revenue of the supporters either away from home or back at the Vic, this was a fixture i would have gone to in the past.
We are in desperate trouble.
We are so in need of Joe Royal

I am not on the Malky must go bandwagon but his faith in Master Hodson is bewildering given the performances he is putting in

V.o.R wrote:

cliff46 wrote: Rick Holden As usual you write mostly rubbish , although I do agree with your description of neil Price!!! The mismanagement and dereliction of duty is down to Simpson and Ashton and Boothroyd. What is it you don't understand about the words--WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We were as knackered financially before, then our 2nd most successful worked the miracle........ Your argument does not stack up. Also by not getting results and playing utter tosh will not bring the badly needed revenue of the supporters either away from home or back at the Vic, this was a fixture i would have gone to in the past. We are in desperate trouble. We are so in need of Joe Royal

Wrong!
Boothroyd, (who did work miracles and then threw it all away buy buying some utter garbage and playing one dimensional football), was able to buy Henderson and King.

Lets sack MM bring in someone else and then when they hit a bad run of form (as all teams do) sack him and bring in someone else.
Drivel.
What makes you muppets think we should be challenging for the playoffs when we have no money and had to ship out 13 players since the end of last season?
The team is very young and they have lost confidence. We need 1 or 2 lucky results and it can all turn round again and we need to ENCOURAGE our young players rather than get on their backs and destroy what little confidence they have left.
We don't have any money, fact.
We have to rely on our youngsters, fact.
We need to support the team through good and bad times.
That's what real supporters do, it's easy to spot who on these forums are real supporters and who aren't.
To the likes of Rick Holden, clear off and support a plastic team like Chelski or Mancini City.

I cannot believe the idiot, so called, supporters that are calling for MM to go. Have they not watched 'their' team play this season? Are they completely deluded? Instead of backing the team they are the first one's to call for the managers head. MM needs to be given the opportunity to mould the team and get them winning. At the start of the season the team was geared up for a relegation scrap, with the lack of finances and players sold a detrimental factor in the planning for the season; yet everyone expected this, so why the change of tune now? What has happened is that the team over achieved and once again, after a few bad results the fickle amongst the 'fan' group are calling for the manager to go. For F%^& sake grow up....The future of the club is in the young players that MM is bringing through and to the fickle out there; just do not bother watching the team....simple as

VoR - who is Joe Royal? Is he a member of the Royal family. Or do you mean Joe Royle? Also, why not be honest and admit that your hero, Aidy Boothroyd, cost us millions in bad transfers. Second best? To whom? Mr. Lee, who left such an impression that I can't remember his first name. VoR, I am being honest in admitting I have forgotten someone's first name. Why can't you be honest about Boothroyd's folly spending? Also on another point altogether, our strength under Graham Taylor came from our wingers, Barnes and Callaghan. Do we have any wingers on our books today? The last good one we had was Ashley Young and that was some time ago now. Helguson and Graham (yes, Graham) need the ball to be centred to them. Instead we rely on the short passing of Cleverley and Lansbury. It's not the same for a striker unless you are Didier Drogba or Wayne Rooney, and that, unfortunately, neither Helguson nor the unfortunate Graham are.

Its back to the future time, remember the early 90s? no chairman (well we did but he was a tight so and so) no talent, rookie managers,left backs giveing us heart attacks (keith dublin) thats us again now, so where back 20 odd years!
Has the club learnt despite two promos to the greedy land? err no?
So it looks like another five or so years of tredding water with no aim,unless by a lucky fluke aka boothy style. Change the team malky thats all i say for gods sake!

OK, the recent run of results has not been good but we are playing with a mainly inexperienced youth team, and have no money to bring in any decent players. Given what MM has inherited firstly you have to compliment him for taking the job in the first place (knowing there were no funds available and players needing to be sold), and you have to agree that the league position we are in right now is better than anyone would have predicted at the start of the season. Pre-season I thought that being outside the relegation zone at Christmas would be a good position to be in and we have exceeded that easily. The league is so close that a couple of wins could move us back into the play-off positions, and there are a lot of worse teams than us in the league so I would say that relegation is a long way off, and to be talking about relegation is a bit premature. Support the team and believe or sod off and support someone else!

Well said Feff and only 2 Ross's. vOr, the vulgar old racist, is a figure of ridicule. When under pressure, stick together and back the manager and the boys. I suspect we are already missing Jim and Vince, don't you think vOr? GT is someone we all respect, but it seems to me the 3 largest shareholders in our club are simply not interested.

Clutching at straws there bile.....#
Although the Lord is by no means the answer to our woes, he saved us from administration and is actively seeking investment,, 2 things that the R'soles cannot claim fame for.
The Old silver Fox single handedly saved us and proceeded to give us premiership football.
It all went wrong without G.S & A.B a match made in heaven, which should have been given more time, the same time you're asking of MM!

I unlike some on here tonight have been to doncaster today. I have to say that the team were second best in all areas of the field. How we can carry on with the current defensive line up and expect to stay up beggars belief. OK we have no money but why engage another midfielder when we only have one centre back and play two full backs who are out of their depth. It seams to me our ambition is to get relegated cut the wage bill some more and stew in div 1 for a couple of years. Todays performance was not good enough for this division and we would stuggle in div 1 playing like we did today.

Not the result i was hopeing for.But still doncaster have an immaculate home record, only lost the one game this season.Watford won't be the last team to lose there this season that's for sure.I can see them beating many championship side's at the keepmoat stadium. that said i do think MM should try change the team around cause there is not alot happening. Would like to see some width about us,since jobi and smudger left,were lacking a wide man to take on opposition player's. someone like bryan or young should be given the opportunity. in defence maybe the likes of dale bennet,up front marvin sordell. GT would have played these kid's by now.Not that im saying i think MM is a bad manager, because i don't. i just think he should rotate the squad a little,find out who's hot,and who is not.

V.o.R wrote:
Clutching at straws there bile.....# Although the Lord is by no means the answer to our woes, he saved us from administration and is actively seeking investment,, 2 things that the R'soles cannot claim fame for. The Old silver Fox single handedly saved us and proceeded to give us premiership football. It all went wrong without G.S & A.B a match made in heaven, which should have been given more time, the same time you're asking of MM!

The things GS and AB got up to certainly have no place in heaven vOr, let alone being created there.
I hear AB loved marketing. Am I right or am I right.

Rick what do you mean 'He even said McGinn is one for the future', hes is u iditot!!! Hes 21 and got great potential, therefore, a great prospect for the future!!! Jesus ur so clueless its just unreal!!!

Billie wrote:

V.o.R wrote: Clutching at straws there bile.....# Although the Lord is by no means the answer to our woes, he saved us from administration and is actively seeking investment,, 2 things that the R'soles cannot claim fame for. The Old silver Fox single handedly saved us and proceeded to give us premiership football. It all went wrong without G.S & A.B a match made in heaven, which should have been given more time, the same time you're asking of MM!

The things GS and AB got up to certainly have no place in heaven vOr, let alone being created there. I hear AB loved marketing. Am I right or am I right.

loved marketing - subtle Billie very subtle NOT

password blue-movie sorry move!

Rick Holden Forever wrote:
Bring in Tommy Mooney as an assistant. He would lift the club and the dressing room!

I would still love to see Kenny Jacket in the job, with the likes of Gibbs, Luther and Cotton as assistants. It would give the club the lift it really needs.

Jacket has gone on to prove himself to be a good manager and i'm sure we'd push for the play offs under his guidance. Yeah i know what people have said about his first spell in charge, but he had even less to work with than Mackay. He has the experience and i'm sure the backing of the fans.

Who is Mackay? Three years ago he was still a player. And i'm sure that is part of the problem, he doesn't seem to command any fear or respect in the dressing room. He is a soft touch with a charisma by-pass. If his team talks are as dreary as his post match interviews, its no wonder the players are not fired up and performing.

He should have been appointed with an experienced number 2 on a short term contract. I said months ago in a previous incarnation that this was a monumental mistake.

Yes we've played some good football, but it is not winning football and this team doesn't appear to have any guts or character. We all got deluded by some early victories but they seem in very short supply as the season really begins to kick in.

We are faced with a resurgent Sheff Wednesday, Ipswich and possibly Preston.

What we need is a manager who can instill confidence and belief and who isn't afraid to bring some experience into the team.

I don't care what Graham Taylor has said; he is wrong, and very wrong at that. He was out of touch with the modern game in 2001 and is very much more so today.

Let's use the compensation from Rodgers to bring in Jackett and Gibbs and give the fans something genuine to cheer about, rather than some misfit who scored his first goal in ten years.

The hype over Doyleys first goal was a real barometer as to how far this club has sunk. Could you imagine Brian Clough allowing that? Exactly. And it is this lowering of expectations that is allowing the likes of Mackay to take this club into freefall.

Please no abuse, lets have a snesible debate. I respect loyalty, but not blind loyalty. We''re in big trouble, but i really believe we don't have to be.

What on earth are people talking about? Sack Mackay! What an absolutely pathetic response to our current situation. We are in a slump, but a few weeks ago we were playing attractive football and were flirting with the playoffs. He has brought in some talented footballers and has worked well in difficult circumstances.
Those calling for a change in manager typify what is wrong with football today.
Rick Holden - you are a joke. Bring in Tommy Mooney, Kenny Jacket, Nigel Gibbs!!! You are living in the past. It didn't work out for Jacket last time did it? In fact during his reign I remember fans fighting amongst themselves in the Vic Road end...

I agree we need defenders not midfielders but calling for Mackays head is disgusting. I am confident he will be a successful manager and half a season is no time at all. We are comfortable in mid-table, and are closer to the play-off spots than the bottom four.

Mackay and Dyche must halt the slide - and they will, but calling for them to be sacked is pathetic.

The Rover wrote:
OK, the recent run of results has not been good but we are playing with a mainly inexperienced youth team, and have no money to bring in any decent players. Given what MM has inherited firstly you have to compliment him for taking the job in the first place (knowing there were no funds available and players needing to be sold), and you have to agree that the league position we are in right now is better than anyone would have predicted at the start of the season. Pre-season I thought that being outside the relegation zone at Christmas would be a good position to be in and we have exceeded that easily. The league is so close that a couple of wins could move us back into the play-off positions, and there are a lot of worse teams than us in the league so I would say that relegation is a long way off, and to be talking about relegation is a bit premature. Support the team and believe or sod off and support someone else!

Well said Rover, it's good to see there are some people on here talking sense.

All things considered, how anyone can be calling for Malky to go is frankly, ridiculous and devoid of any sense.

One of the disappointing sides of supporting WFC is the (thankfully minority) negative, whinging boo-boys who jump on their soap boxes and start spouting their unique blend of poisonous and negative bile the minute things start to get tough and the team aren't delivering....the same so-called supporters who, no doubt boo their own players. The same t*%ers who probably assume the names of V.o.R and Rick Holden and the Orks who agree with them, on this site.

Even the most unintelligent of fans should see that, given our dire financial predicament, Malky Mackay is doing a great job. A lot of people, including these negative tw*ts predicted a relegation battle this season. Thanks to Malky and the amazing use of the very limited resources at his disposal we are not and nor shall we be fighting off relegation this season. A first time manager who is showing that he has a bright future ahead of him. Anyone who wants him to go now is losing the plot and needs to get a grip.

So to all you pathetic whinging morons, 'shut up or go and support another club'!!!.

Bless.

MM is doing wonders with kids and no money.

If you want a club who changes manager at a whim go to qpr

Come on Malky !

God dopey VOR and RICK must have been really upset not to have been first out of the blocks tonight after a defeat.

We are not having the greatest run - all new managers make mistakes at times.

Talking about managers, that kretin Mr Hoofroyd, yes the one who bought Nathan Ellington and put 36 year old Matt Jackson on £10,000 per week for 2 years - well he would you believe actually took on a 34 year old "wannabe" for a trial at Colchester. Good ridance if you ask me.

Here is the article


http://www.guardian.
co.uk/football/2010/
jan/05/colchester-fo
otball-trial

Is that Dot or Nick Cotton?

So we sack Mackay and then bring in Mooney or Gibbs?

Sorry but what experience of this level as managers could they bring and well I am sure Malky isn't a soft touch.

Naturally Jackett is going to walk away from Millwall and we can afford their compensation claims too...?

However its true we need some more experience and fresh faces.

Having to pay off a sacked manager and bring in a new one is hardly going to help that cause though...

Very disappointing run but TBH only the deluded should've expected us to be anything but potential relegation candidates.

I'm interested in Rick's view that "watford football club are the Watford football club seems to me the only institution in the world where failure is acceptable"

Sure we could be hear all week debating other compaines/people who are well rewarded for failing far more than the club have done this season!

As I said sure most realistic fans expected very little but a bottom half/relegation battle type season but naturally if some what to be more hopeful/have raised expectations then fair enough....

I'm backing Malky all the way AND the players. We can only row with the oars we have.

So they are going through a slump...GOOD-it's all part of a learning curve that will see them in good stead when other teams around us begin their inevitable downturns.

BTW I hate seeing my team booed by the backstabbers at the Vic.
It's disgusting, cowardly and does nothing for morale.

Except your own distorted version.

I see Rick and VOR are keeping up there record for most consecutive posts droning on about incorrect drivel. Were in a bad run of form, that does no mean we need to sack Malky, were 14th!!! Donny have won 6 of there last 8 and before today had won previous 3 at home without conceding!!! People who call for Malky out are a disgrace and how Rick can say anyone who calls for Malky to stay in should be ashamed of themselves makes me feel sick. Just **** off, everyone on this forum disagrees with everything you say and despises you!!! Even someone as clueless as you can SURELY see that!!!

grahamwfc wrote:

Billie wrote:

V.o.R wrote: Clutching at straws there bile.....# Although the Lord is by no means the answer to our woes, he saved us from administration and is actively seeking investment,, 2 things that the R'soles cannot claim fame for. The Old silver Fox single handedly saved us and proceeded to give us premiership football. It all went wrong without G.S & A.B a match made in heaven, which should have been given more time, the same time you're asking of MM!

The things GS and AB got up to certainly have no place in heaven vOr, let alone being created there. I hear AB loved marketing. Am I right or am I right.

loved marketing - subtle Billie very subtle NOT password blue-movie sorry move!

You have a penetrating mind Graham

V.o.R wrote:
Clutching at straws there bile.....# Although the Lord is by no means the answer to our woes, he saved us from administration and is actively seeking investment,, 2 things that the R'soles cannot claim fame for. The Old silver Fox single handedly saved us and proceeded to give us premiership football. It all went wrong without G.S & A.B a match made in heaven, which should have been given more time, the same time you're asking of MM!

Retard
Hooffroyd is doing well ?
Ave It!

Well done Paul Lambert a proper Manager!

ceebee580 wrote:
I unlike some on here tonight have been to doncaster today. I have to say that the team were second best in all areas of the field. How we can carry on with the current defensive line up and expect to stay up beggars belief. OK we have no money but why engage another midfielder when we only have one centre back and play two full backs who are out of their depth. It seams to me our ambition is to get relegated cut the wage bill some more and stew in div 1 for a couple of years. Todays performance was not good enough for this division and we would stuggle in div 1 playing like we did today.

Well clearly we don't WANT to go down but if we have to cut the wage bill and other costs just to ensure the club can carry on in whatever league then so be it.

Better to have a club to support than none at all (I'd like to think that was the view of most WFC fans anyway..)

As somebody says the trouble is we STILL have players with little future at this club on big wages and even those in the side who do a decent job like Eustace and DeMerit earn a fair wack (not their fault..we'd all take whatever was offered by a certain group of people!)

Ofcourse we can say drop Hodson/Doyley but who else is there apart from bringing in yet more loan signings which is fine for a short term measure but long term?

The important thing is the recent run doesn't knock the confidence of our OWN young players in the future.

Unfortunate Malky with limited experience himself has had to work in a situation where even some very experienced managers wouldn't find it hard unless they loved a challage like Mr Warnock at Palace.

Anyway nice to hear from somebody who went to the game.

Seems only Loach turned up.

We all love Helguson but when he plays does the team try to use the old long ball style too much?

What we really need is a bit of pace up front,some experience to boost the midfield/defence.

No point in sacking anyone if a new guy cannot improve the squad anyway.

Who were the guys dressed as hornets doing the congar at the end, very funny ?

MALKY OUT NOW!!!!!!!

Grinns wrote:
MALKY OUT NOW!!!!!!!

Moron.

Same old imbeciles posting the same old rubbish.If you no likey then sod off somewhere else,all this Malky out stuff is just risible.A bit like p.Ricks call for Mooney to come in when he's complaining about lack of experience in the management team,you really coudn't make it up.

I bet most of you were pleased to see we lost so you could post all your negativity on here. I was dissapointed to see we had lost as I support Watford FC. - You should try it!

Rick Holden Forever wrote:
1 win in 8, haven't won away since October, 38 goals conceded, a team full of kids and misfits (Graham surely has to drop to the bench) only 6 goals scored in the last month. 2 points out of a possible 15. If that form continues we will be lucky to hit 50 points and we will surely be relegated. I look at the fixture list and can't really see where the next win is coming from. Mackay is clearly out of his depth, there is no fear factor in the dressing room, he clearly cannot instill belief and i cannot see this team turning this form around as long as he is in charge. I accept there is another two weeks left of the window, but the need to strengthen the defence is a matter of urgency. The longer he takes, the more points we will continue to lose. We must sign two new defenders and very quickly. We also need a striker with pace and if that means off loading Graham then so be it. Hoskins, moreover, must start in place of Graham next game. Graham Taylor may drool over a relegation battle being acceptable, but this is a complete cop out and i for one find the comments of the Chairman offensive. I am also concerned that, should relegation happen, the current management would be allowed to remain in the job. Watford football club seems to me the only institution in the world where failure is acceptable. Mackay has to go and go quickly. Anyone cheering his name is doing this club a disservice.

It's sad to read such utter nonsense.For what it's worth these are my comments.We keep drivelling on that we have no money but most teams in our division are skint.We keep saying that we have a young team yet our best players are teenagers,albeit loan signings.Would we have criticized MM if by a miracle he had signed Cleverly as our player? Jobi was almost hounded out of Watford,yet did you see him against Liverpool?What is he worth now(what a shrewd signing by BR)How many of you were yelling that MM should have got the job ahead of BR and yet are now saying he is too inexperienced! As for saying that before the season started we were relegation candidates,how did we know then who we would sign on loan? I agree about Mooney but as a 10 minute substitute player(maybe being helped from his wheelchair) but not as a manager.I have long said that our "owners" have an hidden agenda regarding the developement of the Vic but not as a football club,rather as a retail park.So for the next 5 years enjoy going to Vicarage Road,I'm afraid its days are numbered.In the meantime we will not be relegated and will see exciting games this season by the Golden Boys.

am afraid we are going to get relegated on current form. if you can't see that bomber then you're a bumbum.

hc

I can see a split here...most accepted we lacked funds meaning our season would be a fight to stay up but then are a minoirty like Rick who feel despite the off field issues we should still expect some sort of play-off push?

Has anyone actually thought it would better to spend what money we have on players to improve the squad which needs to happen rather than sack Malky (and others) meaning pay-offs having to be paid?

A manager in a job is not going to come in cheap (compensation)..and I highly doubt we'll see a rush for applications from those out of a job (because they'd failed elsewhere)

Like Bomber suggests the doubt of relegation could be the least of our worries over the next few years..

Lets just hope we have a home and team to support no matter in what league for years to come!

It seems only yesterday that we were drooling over what is essentially the same team, and saying that Watford were playing the best football we'd seen in years. Even in the barren spell, we came within a referee's whistle of beating Nottingham Forest, one of the form teams in the division. I would like to see more crosses delivered more quickly onto HH's head, with midfielders following up to pick up the scraps. So let's get behind the team: the more support they get, the sooner breaks will start to go their way.

Billie wrote:

grahamwfc wrote:

Billie wrote:

V.o.R wrote: Clutching at straws there bile.....# Although the Lord is by no means the answer to our woes, he saved us from administration and is actively seeking investment,, 2 things that the R'soles cannot claim fame for. The Old silver Fox single handedly saved us and proceeded to give us premiership football. It all went wrong without G.S & A.B a match made in heaven, which should have been given more time, the same time you're asking of MM!

The things GS and AB got up to certainly have no place in heaven vOr, let alone being created there. I hear AB loved marketing. Am I right or am I right.

loved marketing - subtle Billie very subtle NOT password blue-movie sorry move!

You have a penetrating mind Graham

Stop it!

Oxhey Village Hornet wrote:
I bet most of you were pleased to see we lost so you could post all your negativity on here. I was dissapointed to see we had lost as I support Watford FC. - You should try it!

Yeah, well I'm critising the performance and I witnessed it.
As I did against Chelsea. I expected us to be raring to go after that performance.
I like Malky, good honest guy, but he's the boss. We are all seeing the same thing Hodson out of his depth. Sadler sitting twiddling his thumbs. Harley always out of favour. Hoskins overlooked ('cept 2nd half yesterday). Being the boss means it's really down to you to change thins when they aren't working.
Also is the return of Demerrit coinciding with our poor form? Marrimuppet and he do not communicate well and as captain he would do well to stop looking at his feet and think about the ball he's about to kick.
Aint booing yet but feeling pretty despondant

Was there a full moon last night?

lutondown wrote:

Oxhey Village Hornet wrote: I bet most of you were pleased to see we lost so you could post all your negativity on here. I was dissapointed to see we had lost as I support Watford FC. - You should try it!

Yeah, well I'm critising the performance and I witnessed it. As I did against Chelsea. I expected us to be raring to go after that performance. I like Malky, good honest guy, but he's the boss. We are all seeing the same thing Hodson out of his depth. Sadler sitting twiddling his thumbs. Harley always out of favour. Hoskins overlooked ('cept 2nd half yesterday). Being the boss means it's really down to you to change thins when they aren't working. Also is the return of Demerrit coinciding with our poor form? Marrimuppet and he do not communicate well and as captain he would do well to stop looking at his feet and think about the ball he's about to kick. Aint booing yet but feeling pretty despondant

Don't think we're too keen to play Sadler for money reasons but then that begs the question..why have him on the bench or not give the Travner guy a go?

As always, a defeat brings an onslaught of ill-considered and reactionary abuse towards the team, the manager and anyone else connected with the club; most of whom are working hard to pull things around.

Perhaps the nonsense orchestrated by the Russo's Bros in December, that took us to the brink of Administration, has had more of an impact than we realised and has adversely affected our performances on the pitch.

We are certainly playing poorly, without much confidence at the moment, although as one of the more sensible posters has already pointed out; this is virtually the same team that destroyed QPR & Sheff Wed with such style not so long ago ; they haven't become bad players or manager overnight.

Malky is a young manager but has had a strong footballing education and knows this division inside out. He also has good contacts and is well respected by his fellow professionals within the game if not all the posters on this site.

Our squad includes some very promising youngsters and a few experienced Pros; we cannot expect table-topping performances week in week out. So let's show some common-sense, a little patience and be realistic with our expectations at the current time.

Let's just support Malky and his team 100% through this difficult patch, rather than this constant carping and criticising. That's what "supporters" are supposed to do isn't it?

No I'm not just a happy clappper and do think we need a couple of additions or changes to freshen / strengthen the side, but I'm sure Malky can see this for himself.

So why not give them a chance to turn this bad run around? You might be pleasantly surprised.

Oh yes, I notice the "weakened" Chelsea side played rather well against Sunderland this week. I realise we froze and played very poorly that day, but maybe the opposition was quite good and it wasn't all down to us? Just a thought.....

Richard - Come On You Golden Boys! wrote:
As always, a defeat brings an onslaught of ill-considered and reactionary abuse towards the team, the manager and anyone else connected with the club; most of whom are working hard to pull things around. Perhaps the nonsense orchestrated by the Russo's Bros in December, that took us to the brink of Administration, has had more of an impact than we realised and has adversely affected our performances on the pitch. We are certainly playing poorly, without much confidence at the moment, although as one of the more sensible posters has already pointed out; this is virtually the same team that destroyed QPR & Sheff Wed with such style not so long ago ; they haven't become bad players or manager overnight. Malky is a young manager but has had a strong footballing education and knows this division inside out. He also has good contacts and is well respected by his fellow professionals within the game if not all the posters on this site. Our squad includes some very promising youngsters and a few experienced Pros; we cannot expect table-topping performances week in week out. So let's show some common-sense, a little patience and be realistic with our expectations at the current time. Let's just support Malky and his team 100% through this difficult patch, rather than this constant carping and criticising. That's what "supporters" are supposed to do isn't it? No I'm not just a happy clappper and do think we need a couple of additions or changes to freshen / strengthen the side, but I'm sure Malky can see this for himself. So why not give them a chance to turn this bad run around? You might be pleasantly surprised. Oh yes, I notice the "weakened" Chelsea side played rather well against Sunderland this week. I realise we froze and played very poorly that day, but maybe the opposition was quite good and it wasn't all down to us? Just a thought.....

Absolutely spot on, especially the points regarding Mackay's attributes.

Well said richard,

I think VOR and Rick, The same person we know. justl ook for reaction and some pople give them it but i think the value of the forum on here is sliding rapidly to pointless. I am glad the W.O actually removed most of ricks posts on the last topic in a attempt to keep this forum going but i think as much fun as VOAT is having he wont have a forum to post here for long

wake up, we have a young team and new-to-the-game manager, they will be inconsistent, that's just where we are... MM out? anyone calling for that or booing the team (FFS) are morons who have got sand for brains, it's all run out their ears.... yes the defence is not stuffed with top class pro's and yes, they need more organisation and communication on the field, particularly AM & JD, Malky must see this, he's no fool, but he can only work with what he's got - bet Steve Bruce would be welcomed at WFC yet look at what Chelksi did to Sunderland on Saturday... we have to smell the coffee guys, there are many poorer teams in this league than us and we will stay up... COYHs

btw, you want a comparison, try looking at current state of play at Derby, Reading or Ipswich first....

First away game for me this season and probably the last. Is this the sort of performance away from home? Thank god for loaky otherwise it would have been a slating

I've seen most games this season and apart from Sheff Wed game i don't think Lansbury has contributed anything.

Hahahaha god Iveko Kit im gonna start making stupid posts for MM out if thats the reaction Hilarious.

By the way you can get plenty of buy one get two free at certain supermarkets so to be honest if you didnt get 30 quids worth then yes you deserve to be kicked out!

MM In! Man in supermaket out!

ab11uk wrote:
Hahahaha god Iveko Kit im gonna start making stupid posts for MM out if thats the reaction Hilarious.

By the way you can get plenty of buy one get two free at certain supermarkets so to be honest if you didnt get 30 quids worth then yes you deserve to be kicked out!

MM In! Man in supermaket out!

yeah, fair do's.....

funny how our dip in form has been since the Russo's left. Coincidence?

Richard - Come On You Golden Boys! wrote:
As always, a defeat brings an onslaught of ill-considered and reactionary abuse towards the team, the manager and anyone else connected with the club; most of whom are working hard to pull things around. Perhaps the nonsense orchestrated by the Russo's Bros in December, that took us to the brink of Administration, has had more of an impact than we realised and has adversely affected our performances on the pitch. We are certainly playing poorly, without much confidence at the moment, although as one of the more sensible posters has already pointed out; this is virtually the same team that destroyed QPR & Sheff Wed with such style not so long ago ; they haven't become bad players or manager overnight. Malky is a young manager but has had a strong footballing education and knows this division inside out. He also has good contacts and is well respected by his fellow professionals within the game if not all the posters on this site. Our squad includes some very promising youngsters and a few experienced Pros; we cannot expect table-topping performances week in week out. So let's show some common-sense, a little patience and be realistic with our expectations at the current time. Let's just support Malky and his team 100% through this difficult patch, rather than this constant carping and criticising. That's what "supporters" are supposed to do isn't it? No I'm not just a happy clappper and do think we need a couple of additions or changes to freshen / strengthen the side, but I'm sure Malky can see this for himself. So why not give them a chance to turn this bad run around? You might be pleasantly surprised. Oh yes, I notice the "weakened" Chelsea side played rather well against Sunderland this week. I realise we froze and played very poorly that day, but maybe the opposition was quite good and it wasn't all down to us? Just a thought.....

Richard...Well said young man!

There really are some complete idiots on this site...MM out....Do these people really understand football......NO they don't.

MM will stay....we will finish mid table ish! And then on to next season.....You Orns!!