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5:01pm Saturday 11th February 2012
Watford will be the happier of the two sides this evening after they added another point to their tally with a 1-1 draw at Nottingham Forest.
The visitors never really got into their stride in a game low on quality but they secured a point thanks to Troy Deeney’s header in the last minute of the first half after Gareth McCleary had remarkably scored Forest’s first goal at the City Ground in eight matches to put Steve Cotterill’s strugglers ahead.
Although John Eustace hit the crossbar after the break, Forest spurned several decent opportunities to have picked up only their second league win in 12 outings.
Chris Gunter also hit the bar, when he really should have scored, in the second half and fired another clear opening over the top, while Ishmael Miller spurned a great opportunity to double the hosts’ advantage in the first half, only to shoot straight at Scott Loach.
With no fresh injury concern, there was no surprise that Sean Dyche named an unchanged team for the third match running as his side went in search of a third straight win.
By contrast, the Forest line-up showed five changes from their last game at the end of January after last Sunday’s trip to Derby County was postponed – and it was a team that included three debutants in loan signings Scott Wootton, Danny Higginbotham and George Elokobi.
Following a minute’s applause in tribute to Forest owner Nigel Doughty, who died last Saturday at the age of 54, the Hornets started positively, retaining possession well. But it soon began to go downhill for them in the first half.
It was the hosts who had the first sniff of an opening in the fourth minute when, following an inswinging free-kick from the left, Nyron Nosworthy was forced to head behind his own goal and concede a corner. Higginbotham then fired another free-kick into the Hornets’ wall before Deeney had the visitors’ first effort of the game, hitting a shot on the turn wide from the edge of the area.
Lloyd Doyley was rather harshly awarded the game’s first yellow card in the 13th minute for a foul on Chris Gunter on the right edge of the 18-yard box and from Adlene Guedioura’s resultant set piece, Luke Chambers headed down towards goal but his effort lacked power and Loach was able to save.
The hosts continued to apply the pressure, with Marlon Harewood having a shot blocked before the ball cannoned back out to Higginbotham, who fired over the top from around 20 yards out.
But in the 18th minute came a moment the majority inside the City Ground have waited for since November 19 – a goal for their team at home.
There didn’t appear to be any immediate danger when McCleary picked up the ball on the left and cut inside before hitting a right-footed 20-yard effort that deceived Loach and finished up in his bottom left-hand corner, ending Forest’s seven-match goal famine in front of their own fans. However, the fact the Watford keeper dived late suggested the shot took a deflection, although that was not immediately apparent from the side of the pitch.
One almost became two soon after when Gunter was played in on the right side of the area and he lifted the ball wide of the advancing Loach, but the effort was going wide before the Hornets managed to clear their lines.
However, the visitors were clearly rattled and should have been 2-0 down moments later when Miller was put clear on the left side of the area but he fired straight at Loach.
Instead of being in big trouble, Watford very nearly levelled in the 22nd minute when Sean Murray drifted in a free-kick from right of centre and Eustace got in a clear header, only for the sprawling Lee Camp to keep it out.
McCleary was clearly in the mood following his goal and chanced his arm with another right-footed shot from outside the area in the 29th minute. This was again well struck but this time Loach was able to save, albeit at the second attempt.
The Hornets began to enjoy more possession as the first half drew to a close, without threatening too much, although that almost changed in the 41st minute when Murray latched onto the ball on the right and attacked Higginbotham before getting the break of the ball and stabbing a shot wide of the near post.
But three minutes later, Watford were level.
It initially looked like referee Jon Moss might not have done the Hornets any favours when he pulled back play for a foul on Joe Garner as Alex Kacaniklic seemingly looked set to cross from the left. However, Murray took a superbly flighted set piece from close to the left touchline and Deeney got up first with a back header that was out of the reach of Camp to make it 1-1 at the break.
Miller had the first attempt of the second half blocked by Nosworthy in what was a stretched resumption to play that featured a second booking for the visitors after Jonathan Hogg was cautioned for a foul on Gunter.
Harewood dragged a 25-yard attempt from a free-kick wide of Loach’s right-hand post before Nosworthy joined the Hornets’ yellow card contingent for going through the back of Miller.
But the Hornets survived a massive let off in the 58th minute when Steve Cotterill’s side really should have retaken the lead.
Harewood was the creator with a fine cross from the left that picked out Gunter on his own at the far post but the right-sided midfielder, if anything, caught his volley too cleanly and his effort cannoned back off the crossbar.
Gunter had another chance soon after following a cross from McCleary, who, not for the first time in the match, had beaten Lee Hodson for pace, but this time the full-back by trade put his effort too close to Loach.
Kacaniklic, who had struggled to make an impact, made way for Mark Yeates after 62 minutes and the substitute’s first involvement was to strike a corner that Adrian Mariappa flicked goalwards but Camp was able to gather safely.
Gunter became the first Forest player to be booked in the 66th minute after catching Hodson late before Murray made way for Chris Iwelumo, either side of a fourth booking for the visitors, this time after Joe Garner had fouled Gunter.
The Forest man had his latest attempt soon after, heading over a McCleary cross from the left, but then it was Watford’s turn to hit the woodwork.
Deeney did well on the left to get over a low cross and Eustace arrived late on the edge of the six-yard box to connect with a rising left-footed effort that caught the top of Camp’s bar before going over.
Miller’s last meaningful involvement was to get booked for a foul on Doyley before he made way for Robbie Findley. But then Gunter spurned another glorious opportunity, firing badly over from a central position after another good cross from McCleary had found him in space.
Dexter Blackstock came on for Harewood with ten minutes remaining and then Wootton made way for Andy Reid after Deeney had fired a speculative attempt high over the target.
But Forest blew a good chance to win the game in the first minute of injury time when a good pass from Reid released Findley but his touch was heavy and Loach was able to gather safely.
Nottingham Forest: Camp; Wootton (Reid 87), Chambers, Higginbotham, Elokobi; Gunter, Moussi, Guedioura; Harewood (Blackstock 80), Miller (Findley 75). Not used: Smith and Lynch.
Watford: Loach; Hodson, Nosworthy, Mariappa, Doyley; Murray (Iwelumo 69), Eustace, Hogg, Kacaniklic (Yeates 62); Deeney, Garner. Not used: Dickinson, Buaben and Bond.
Bookings: Doyley for a foul on Gunter (13); Hogg for a foul on Gunter (52); Nosworthy for a foul on Miller (56); Gunter for a foul on Hodson (66); Garner for a foul on Gunter (69); Miller for a foul on Doyley (73).
Attendance: 21,712.
Referee: Jon Moss.
Comments(52)
Casterbridge
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5:24pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Hornet23
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5:27pm Sat 11 Feb 12
buckler wrote:Get a life.
Good point but whatever way you look at it Liability Loach let another softie in! Simple shot not dealt with so it should have been 1 nil ! Even Dyche has said it was a mistake! Got to drop this clown and sack the Gk clown coach!
CARDIFFHORN
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5:35pm Sat 11 Feb 12
chrisptrifle
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6:11pm Sat 11 Feb 12
bigthunder
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6:27pm Sat 11 Feb 12
stevemag
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7:07pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Estuary Hornet
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7:09pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Casterbridge
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7:14pm Sat 11 Feb 12
stevemag wrote:And to rest him for Tuesday. Which is why I would have liked to have seen us use all three subs.
More shakey moments from Loach.
Sounded like Murray was outstanding. Can only imagine he was taken off due to fatigue
buckler
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7:29pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Estuary Hornet wrote:What sort of job was that then? An impersonation of a football player?
Good game today either side could have won it. I was sat directly behind the goal and I'm sorry but there's no way Loach could have saved that it moved a mile. I'd take a point but I'm disappointed with Kasanitlic. Great handball banter too. Big Chris did a job today too.
Stoney77
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8:23pm Sat 11 Feb 12
psycho1
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8:24pm Sat 11 Feb 12
rousman 2
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8:39pm Sat 11 Feb 12
psycho1 wrote:I agree mate I was right behind the shot & the ball did move, not the howler people are saying it was. What was the ruck about amongst some Watford fans ?? never seen that at a game before.
Buckler- I've one of Scotts harshest critics over the past couple of seasons but being directly in line with the shot- Scott had it covered but the ball ( bit like a world cup one) swerved at the last minute giving hm no chance. I had a better view than Dyche! Did well to get a draw - At least Atwell only made a big mistake not a catalogue of astounding decisions- every watford foul = yellow card , two out of three Forest fouls-give free kick to Forest????. Only book Forest players as an absolute last resort. All in all the players didn't play as well as of late but a decent result all the same.
Hornet Cornet
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8:43pm Sat 11 Feb 12
buckler
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8:59pm Sat 11 Feb 12
rousman 2 wrote:The ruck was about some mugs sticking up for Loach I think! You must remember not aloud to say what you think at Watford matches!
psycho1 wrote:I agree mate I was right behind the shot & the ball did move, not the howler people are saying it was. What was the ruck about amongst some Watford fans ?? never seen that at a game before.
Buckler- I've one of Scotts harshest critics over the past couple of seasons but being directly in line with the shot- Scott had it covered but the ball ( bit like a world cup one) swerved at the last minute giving hm no chance. I had a better view than Dyche! Did well to get a draw - At least Atwell only made a big mistake not a catalogue of astounding decisions- every watford foul = yellow card , two out of three Forest fouls-give free kick to Forest????. Only book Forest players as an absolute last resort. All in all the players didn't play as well as of late but a decent result all the same.
psycho1
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9:17pm Sat 11 Feb 12
lutondown
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9:27pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Hornet Cornet wrote:Too much sun sonny get back indoors and put a hat on!
Must admit that, for once, I didn't Blame Loach for the goal. Bet you never thought you'd hear me say that eh.
radlettman
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9:28pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Hornet Cornet
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9:31pm Sat 11 Feb 12
lutondown wrote:Sack Loach, it's all his fault ha ha.
Hornet Cornet wrote:Too much sun sonny get back indoors and put a hat on!
Must admit that, for once, I didn't Blame Loach for the goal. Bet you never thought you'd hear me say that eh.
Next you'll be saying Bas is good!
Lol
Get brain freeze like the rest of us HC
Feff
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9:43pm Sat 11 Feb 12
buckler
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9:47pm Sat 11 Feb 12
psycho1 wrote:Oh Is that right, I will take that onboard!
Mug- you are one Buckler! Criticising a player when he's made a mistake is one thing and can be justified- to criticise when no mistake has been made weakens your argument and make you (stangely) look rather foolish!!!
johnnyc72
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10:18pm Sat 11 Feb 12
buckler
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10:30pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Feff wrote:How do you know where I was Fluff? Have you ever heard of an I phone you don't have to be sat at a desk with a computer these days clapper! Why people are making excuses for yet more poor goalkeeping is beyond me!
Buckler is the first to comment here. He wasn't at the match but blamed Loach for Forest's goal. Biased or just plain stupid?
Vet_kills_puppy
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10:44pm Sat 11 Feb 12
Bush Hornet
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11:00pm Sat 11 Feb 12
buckler wrote:Bucket. I was starting to think you might be ok. Sadly you've made a prize idiot of yourself today.
Feff wrote:How do you know where I was Fluff? Have you ever heard of an I phone you don't have to be sat at a desk with a computer these days clapper! Why people are making excuses for yet more poor goalkeeping is beyond me!
Buckler is the first to comment here. He wasn't at the match but blamed Loach for Forest's goal. Biased or just plain stupid?
jimbuctu
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12:21am Sun 12 Feb 12
buckler wrote:Buckler you're a complete idiot.
Feff wrote:How do you know where I was Fluff? Have you ever heard of an I phone you don't have to be sat at a desk with a computer these days clapper! Why people are making excuses for yet more poor goalkeeping is beyond me!
Buckler is the first to comment here. He wasn't at the match but blamed Loach for Forest's goal. Biased or just plain stupid?
DAVE THE HORNET
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1:01am Sun 12 Feb 12
corbindallas
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7:49am Sun 12 Feb 12
buckler
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10:10am Sun 12 Feb 12
corbindallas wrote:I'm now hanging out with Goerge and Bungle and Going Underground! I can't take the bullying I receive on here anymore?
Buckler Buckler Buckler! You really need to learn to zip it sometimes, your opinion is wrong (again), yet you still go on about it even when people who were actually at the game tell you it was not Loachy's fault, do you not bother to read other peoples comments apart from your own and your support act chums? What is your problem exactly perhaps we can try and help you cause clearly you need some help. I have yet to meet a goal keeper that does not let goals in that is the game of football, but credit where credit is due Loach had a good game as Forest had a number of oppotunities to win the game and thanks to Loach they did not, try supporting him sometimes, that's why we are called supporters duh! Good to also hear Chris justified his shift yesterday but we really need to dip in the loan market for a more able striker to finish of games.
lovestospouge
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10:27am Sun 12 Feb 12
lutondown
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10:28am Sun 12 Feb 12
buckler wrote:Jamman you're made of sterner stuff
corbindallas wrote:I'm now hanging out with Goerge and Bungle and Going Underground! I can't take the bullying I receive on here anymore?
Buckler Buckler Buckler! You really need to learn to zip it sometimes, your opinion is wrong (again), yet you still go on about it even when people who were actually at the game tell you it was not Loachy's fault, do you not bother to read other peoples comments apart from your own and your support act chums? What is your problem exactly perhaps we can try and help you cause clearly you need some help. I have yet to meet a goal keeper that does not let goals in that is the game of football, but credit where credit is due Loach had a good game as Forest had a number of oppotunities to win the game and thanks to Loach they did not, try supporting him sometimes, that's why we are called supporters duh! Good to also hear Chris justified his shift yesterday but we really need to dip in the loan market for a more able striker to finish of games.
FelixTheHorn
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11:00am Sun 12 Feb 12
corbindallas wrote:Corb, he's a Mangalore. Or something along those lines.
Buckler Buckler Buckler! You really need to learn to zip it sometimes, your opinion is wrong (again), yet you still go on about it even when people who were actually at the game tell you it was not Loachy's fault, do you not bother to read other peoples comments apart from your own and your support act chums? What is your problem exactly perhaps we can try and help you cause clearly you need some help. I have yet to meet a goal keeper that does not let goals in that is the game of football, but credit where credit is due Loach had a good game as Forest had a number of oppotunities to win the game and thanks to Loach they did not, try supporting him sometimes, that's why we are called supporters duh! Good to also hear Chris justified his shift yesterday but we really need to dip in the loan market for a more able striker to finish of games.
KeithMercer
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11:07am Sun 12 Feb 12
endean1
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11:37am Sun 12 Feb 12
Chris the Vic
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11:41am Sun 12 Feb 12
jasonwatford
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12:11pm Sun 12 Feb 12
Stoney77
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12:31pm Sun 12 Feb 12
jasonwatford wrote:here here, I don't want to sound like I lack ambition but I'm happy with "The Watford Way" and proud of our club's league position despite a tough decade where many other clubs of our size and faltered, failed and financially defaulted. The idea of wholesale changes, and "strangers" running the club, team and backroooms worries me. I think SD has done a sterling job and we have a habit of recruiting/developin
hearing news.....dont sound good to me...if take over happens they want Zola to take charge..and basically change all backroom staff......uneasy with such changes.
Stoney77
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12:56pm Sun 12 Feb 12
KeithMercer wrote:I'm sorry Keith Mercer, but after that rather patronising comment I cannot have any respect for much that you post. Claiming that you (and your anti-clapping friends) are more passionate or better supporters than other fellow fans?! unbelieveable behaviour..... how old are you?.... are you 12, or maybe younger? For your sake I do hope so because then that sort of comment is forgiveable, but for any one older that sort of comment is laughable. I dont give a &%£$ if you sing louder than me, or if you go to every away game in every season (if you do, then well done to you and respect for that) but that makes you no bigger or better supporter than anyone else who has WFC in their heart.
jimbuctu, corbindallas etc,
could you be any more contrite if you tried !! in one sentence its your not a supporter if you criticize the likes of loach. And then in the next sentence its lets get another keeper at the end of the season and hei is not good enough anymore !! but its our fault because we dare to have an opinion thats different to yours and are not prepared to tolerate "dross".
How many times do I have to keep telling you ? that I ,uncle Buck, Lutondown etc support "The Hornets" more vehemently and more vocally than you can ever dream of.But we will also ask the questions that need to be asked ! and we do not resort to cheap insults and disrespect like a lot of your comrades do.
jimbuctu
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12:58pm Sun 12 Feb 12
KeithMercer wrote:On the contrary KeithMercer I fully respect all the opinions on here and enjoy reading them. I've made my point to Buckler a few times about his anger towards anyone who has a different opinion to him - ie calling people clappers for being positive. I wouldn't deny Loach has had a bad season and I wouldn't be against signing a good experienced loan keeper to give him a few months out of the limelight. If we don't though, it won't help to constantly have a dig at Loach.
jimbuctu, corbindallas etc,
could you be any more contrite if you tried !! in one sentence its your not a supporter if you criticize the likes of loach. And then in the next sentence its lets get another keeper at the end of the season and hei is not good enough anymore !! but its our fault because we dare to have an opinion thats different to yours and are not prepared to tolerate "dross".
How many times do I have to keep telling you ? that I ,uncle Buck, Lutondown etc support "The Hornets" more vehemently and more vocally than you can ever dream of.But we will also ask the questions that need to be asked ! and we do not resort to cheap insults and disrespect like a lot of your comrades do.
KeithMercer
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1:08pm Sun 12 Feb 12
gilesy97
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1:50pm Sun 12 Feb 12
gilesy97
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2:19pm Sun 12 Feb 12
buckler
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5:36pm Sun 12 Feb 12
CLHornet
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8:50am Mon 13 Feb 12
Alex Hillcroft
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10:25am Mon 13 Feb 12
luther blissett
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10:28am Mon 13 Feb 12
lutondown
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1:42pm Mon 13 Feb 12
luther blissett wrote:loofer old buddy
Mr Down, is being a keyboard bully worse than wanting to meet up to 'iron out' your differences?
corbindallas
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2:37pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Alex Hillcroft wrote:Is it any wonder when people like you make statements that are trash to try and garner credibility, but in reality make you look even more pathetic, as are the majority of your posts!
Is it any wonder that the middle classes have lost all respect for the Police service when a semi-literate dullard like Corbyn can rise to the rank of Inspector
Dr,Oftaw
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2:39pm Mon 13 Feb 12
CLHornet wrote:good observations, we are back to square one with our left/right backs, hodson for me is still poor he cannot stop a cross from being delivered, i don`t care about him going forward his main job is to defend and his marking and closing down is not good enough.doyley at left back?, sorry, over qualified, two left feet!
My two pennies worth. I was right behind the shot and Loach had no chance with it. The goal aside I thought he had a good game. Hodson and Doyley were atrocious yesterday, the Forest wingers could seemingly put the ball into our area at will. That will always cause us a problem especially playing against two big forwards. Murray and Kacanlikic will have better games, neither of them really got into it which meant the Forest fullbacks could get forward too often. Iwelumo looked good when he came on and gave us some much needed stature up front. Yeates looks like he's in a sulk because he's been dropped. Looking at his body language yesterday really hacked me off.
corbindallas
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2:42pm Mon 13 Feb 12
lutondown wrote:Sorry old boy not me, I was in the Met and didn't cover any Watford games unfortunaltey, Arsenal, QPR, Brentford, Spurs & Wembley were my stomping grounds. I bet you had red braces to go with them DM shoes!
luther blissett wrote:loofer old buddy
Mr Down, is being a keyboard bully worse than wanting to meet up to 'iron out' your differences?
First of all please call me Luton, no need to go all formal on me!
I think there are a lot of sanctimonious fools on this site that think we have all to agree. I'd be the first to admit if I was wrong and would agree that Dyche has done well with his resources but still dislike the style.
I don't know about Bas as I still see nothing tangible as to what's happening, and I would bet my bottom dollar if here was a bid for the club he'd take it ( why wouldn't he as he's a self proclaimed businessman first and foremost)
I would Imagine that if the noise of the wise monkeys on this site was transferred in to the stadium we would be a vociferous bunch. There is a lot of ganging up on here, and I for one resent and would react to anyone insulting me on here or to my face.
Banter is fine, crossing the line isn't.
One thing to add to all old timers Corbysweenyplod is really PC48 and he still hasn't returned the laces to my DMs
He took off before a game in1975 ( bully or what!)
lutondown
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2:59pm Mon 13 Feb 12
corbindallas wrote:Knew it was you!
lutondown wrote:Sorry old boy not me, I was in the Met and didn't cover any Watford games unfortunaltey, Arsenal, QPR, Brentford, Spurs & Wembley were my stomping grounds. I bet you had red braces to go with them DM shoes!
luther blissett wrote:loofer old buddy
Mr Down, is being a keyboard bully worse than wanting to meet up to 'iron out' your differences?
First of all please call me Luton, no need to go all formal on me!
I think there are a lot of sanctimonious fools on this site that think we have all to agree. I'd be the first to admit if I was wrong and would agree that Dyche has done well with his resources but still dislike the style.
I don't know about Bas as I still see nothing tangible as to what's happening, and I would bet my bottom dollar if here was a bid for the club he'd take it ( why wouldn't he as he's a self proclaimed businessman first and foremost)
I would Imagine that if the noise of the wise monkeys on this site was transferred in to the stadium we would be a vociferous bunch. There is a lot of ganging up on here, and I for one resent and would react to anyone insulting me on here or to my face.
Banter is fine, crossing the line isn't.
One thing to add to all old timers Corbysweenyplod is really PC48 and he still hasn't returned the laces to my DMs
He took off before a game in1975 ( bully or what!)
CLHornet
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6:57pm Mon 13 Feb 12
Dr,Oftaw wrote:I think/hope this is a one off. Hodson has been one of our better players this season. He really looks to have shaken off the issues he had last year but he's only a youngster so will be prone to games like yesterday.
CLHornet wrote:good observations, we are back to square one with our left/right backs, hodson for me is still poor he cannot stop a cross from being delivered, i don`t care about him going forward his main job is to defend and his marking and closing down is not good enough.doyley at left back?, sorry, over qualified, two left feet!
My two pennies worth. I was right behind the shot and Loach had no chance with it. The goal aside I thought he had a good game. Hodson and Doyley were atrocious yesterday, the Forest wingers could seemingly put the ball into our area at will. That will always cause us a problem especially playing against two big forwards. Murray and Kacanlikic will have better games, neither of them really got into it which meant the Forest fullbacks could get forward too often. Iwelumo looked good when he came on and gave us some much needed stature up front. Yeates looks like he's in a sulk because he's been dropped. Looking at his body language yesterday really hacked me off.
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buckler says...
5:22pm Sat 11 Feb 12