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10:30am Friday 1st January 2010
Following the dramatic events of Watford Leisure’s annual meeting, the ensuing spectre of administration hanging over the Hornets and Lord Ashcroft’s package to stave off that threat, chief executive Julian Winter explains how a traumatic period in the club’s history unfolded and what the future now holds at Vicarage Road.
Can you explain what happened to the financial position of the club over the past few weeks and where we are now?
Winter: “For me, and all of the board and staff at the club, the past few months have been very difficult. On the one hand we have had a very positive season so far on the field but behind the scenes the club has continued to have the well documented cash flow problems. During 2009 the board, led by chairman Jimmy Russo, needed short term cash injections to stay afloat and ultimately this money came from player trading and loans from Valley Grown Salads (VGS). By December VGS had loaned £4.88m to the club and had securitised their loans against the stadium and made the loan capable of being called in “on demand”.
“As we know the VGS representatives on the board resigned at the start of our annual meeting (AGM) on December 15 and promptly demanded repayment of their loan by 1pm on Thursday, December 17 2009. The company was never going to be in a position to repay the loan in such a short space of time and so we faced the real prospect of administration. Fortunately, Lord Ashcroft intervened, through Fordwat Limited, to pay VGS their loans in full to stop Watford FC being placed into administration and the team being docked ten points.
“Moving forward Fordwat have offered to underwrite a rights issue during the early part of 2010 to raise some £7.5m for the company. It is intended that this will repay Fordwat their loan, provide some working capital for the business and also afford the board the breathing space to continue to implement our long term business plan, ‘The Watford Way’, and progress the sourcing of a longer term investment and/or ownership for the club.”
How close was Watford Leisure from going into administration?
Winter: “To put it bluntly, we were hours away. VGS had filed their notice of intention to appoint an administrator at the High Court late on Thursday, December 17. If the matter had not been settled by 4pm on Monday, December 21 VGS had the power to appoint an administrator.”
What happened in the period between the AGM and the loan being repaid?
Winter: “To start with I think it is right to state that I, along with the rest of the remaining directors, was very surprised by the actions of VGS at the AGM. I have seen a number of interviews subsequently in which Jimmy has given his reasons for resigning. My focus, and its one I know the other directors share, is doing what is right for Watford Football Club. I personally found it difficult to see how resigning in such a dramatic way and the calling in of the loans squares with doing what is best for the club.
“The days which followed the AGM were quite simply the toughest that I have faced at the club. We did not have £4.88m available to repay VGS within their deadline and so we needed to find an appropriate solution and quickly. After the AGM, a proposal from Fordwat Limited to underwrite a rights issue had been presented to the board and the non-executive directors and I agreed that this offered the best solution at the time for both repaying VGS and also injecting the much needed working capital into the business. Following the AGM we asked VGS not to put the company into administration, informed them of Fordwat Limited’s offer to underwrite a rights issue and pointed out that if we were given the time to implement this they would receive their money back upon the completion of the rights issue.
“That evening VGS made a very public rejection of our offer so we had until 4pm on the following Monday to find an appropriate solution and in the end I must thank Lord Ashcroft for saving our club from administration. Administration would have been catastrophic for the team, the staff, our Community Trust, our relationship with the Harefield Academy, our local suppliers and dedicated fans “We made a further proposal to VGS on the Friday afternoon, informing them that Fordwat Limited would repay the loans in full over a two-week timeframe. I was slightly taken back, albeit delighted to see that Jimmy Russo again went public to state he was accepting the offer and that he never wanted to put the club into administration. The reality though was that as we entered the Monday, administration was still a real threat.”
Do you believe the Russos would have put the company into administration?
Winter: “Thankfully, we will never know if VGS actually would have pressed the button. What I will say is that despite all the public announcements stating their desire not to put Watford into administration, that their actions via their lawyer signalled something different.”
For you personally what was that period like?
Winter: “A number of words spring to mind including, anger, frustration, draining but ultimately I found the whole process so unnecessary. Those few days following the AGM were very tough and my responsibility was for the club and the staff who work so hard for Watford FC. Being in the office over those days with the real threat of administration hanging over us was challenging for all.
“I must pay tribute to all the staff for the professional way in which they conducted themselves, not only in the last few weeks but throughout what has been an incredibly hard year. I would like to thank all the staff and my fellow board members, including our interim chairman Graham Taylor, for their dedication to Watford Football Club. I would also like to thank our manager Malky Mackay for the way in which he handled the situation in the glare of a huge amount of media attention along with his staff and players who have never waivered from the task on the field.
“I would also like to mention the steadfast support of our professional advisors; Guy Thomas of our solicitors SA Law LLP, Paul McGoohan of Square1 Consulting and Rory Murphy of Strand Hanson. Finally, I would also like to praise Barclays for their ongoing support during this challenging time.”
Prior to the AGM, the company’s cash flow problems were well known. What was being done to find a solution to these and what will happen now?
Winter: “I think it is important to inform all of the club’s supporters of what was happening behind the scenes in the run up to the AGM. Most of 2009 has been spent cleaning up issues of the past, but despite significant progress, we were always going to need help from the shareholders to help bridge the inherited gap in the club’s funding. In fact the £8.5m requirement stated in January only shifted to £6.5m in September 2009 based on the removal of the capital project in the South West corner and an over achievement trading on players in the summer window. The inherited position has always been clearly stated.
“More recently the board, which was chaired by Jimmy Russo, had tasked the independent directors to consider two proposals. As I outlined earlier, one was put forward by Fordwat, proposing a rights issue. This followed an offer for the club’s assets from VGS. The independent directors believe that the Fordwat proposal offers the best way forward for the company, its shareholders and the football club.
“VGS rejected the Fordwat proposal to inject the working capital via a combination of a rights issue and loan conversion with an independent board to take the club forward and subsequently resigned at the AGM and called in their loan.
“Following the events of the past two weeks, Fordwat have now in effect taken over the VGS loan. They have also indicated their ongoing support, which allows us to carry on operating in the short term until the completion of the rights issue. A fully underwritten rights issue allows us to move forward with some certainty for the remainder of the season.
“We now have a roadmap in place that seeks to leave the club virtually debt free come the end of the season. Many other clubs in both the Championship and Premier League would wish to be in that position.”
Will the club be raising money from player trading?
Winter: “Firstly it is important to note that we are due to receive further monies from previous sales this January which will help our short term financial position. Our transfer policy is based on making Watford competitive within the Championship, the events of the past few weeks have not changed this. Moving into this window, we will treat any offer that may arrive for a player on its merits. The level of working capital we have to raise is not great, so we do not feel any pressure to sell. If we do, it will be because we have received an appropriate offer for a player and our manager is content to let them leave, just as we have in the last two windows of last January and the summer.”
What of Fordwat’s long term position? Will they continue to fund the company moving forward?
Winter: “Lord Ashcroft has made it quite clear that while he will assist us now in getting through this tough period, as indeed he has done twice in the past, he does not see himself as the long term solution for the club. Moving into 2010, Fordwat wish to see a strong and independent board running the company. They are not seeking a place on the board, nor will Graham Simpson. The remaining directors, Graham Taylor, David Fransen, Stuart Timperley and myself, are not shareholders in the company and with their independence will continue to do what we feel is right for Watford – not for ourselves.
“Fordwat, it has to be said, have always been consistent in its approach to Watford FC. It has been supportive in the past and has now once again supported the club because we have prepared a sensible business plan to take the club forward and now, further to the AGM have an independent board to implement that plan.
“We will continue to implement ‘The Watford Way’ business plan that was drawn up at the start of 2009, while we will continue to seek new external investment for the club.
“The board will be meeting in early January to agree the on-going rules and responsibilities and to commence the further delivery of the business plan.”
Finally, what is your message to the Watford fans as we start a new year?
Winter: “I would like to offer my thanks to all our supporters who come week in, week out to support the club. 2009 has been a tough year in so many ways but our support has been with us, through the ups and the downs. Rest assured that the board, with people such as Graham Taylor on side, will only do what we believe is right for Watford Football Club.
“So please continue to get behind Malky, his staff and the team and I look forward to seeing all our fans at Stamford Bridge on Sunday and welcoming as many people back to Vicarage Road as possible in 2010.
“It was great to see a sold out Vicarage Road on Boxing Day versus Nottingham Forest and also fantastic to see such a large travelling support at Peterborough United and then Bristol City. The team have responded wonderfully throughout a challenging period and I hope to see them progress further with the support of the board, staff and fans really getting behind them.
“Watford FC has so many good things going for it – a unique Academy in partnership with Harefield School, an award winning Community Trust established against the club’s long term legacy as a real family and community club, an association with a world class entertainer in Elton John who is prepared to support the club to raise funds for players, a clear forward business strategy and the possibility of being a debt free football club that will be well governed to deliver a financially stable, viable and vibrant football club going forward.
“On behalf of the board and staff – we look forward to the challenge.”
ghosthorn, Rickmansworth says...
11:19am Fri 1 Jan 10
Derek Payne, says...
12:25pm Fri 1 Jan 10
rookerynook, Meppershall says...
12:36pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Billie, Kings Langley says...
1:41pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Holly68, Bushey says...
1:48pm Fri 1 Jan 10
smeg, Hemel says...
2:22pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Billie wrote:Wake up. How would they know they were to be voted off? The only people who claim this are the Russos who are now proven to be untrustworthy publicity seekers. Seems to me the resignation was planned all along since they re-jigged the loans allowing them to demand instant payment.
So Mr Winter, were you or were you not party to a plot to vote J & V off the Board at the AGM? If so you are being something of a snake I think. Let us remember you are/were a mate of Ashton.
herts hornet, watford says...
4:13pm Fri 1 Jan 10
smeg wrote:oh dear smeg .please do not be so naive !! and for the record those loans that were "re jigged " as you say are exactly the same as the Fordwat loans now in place !!! WAKE UP YOURSELF ,if you beleive in winter you beleive in Ashton in my opinion ,remember who appointed him ,remember how on Ashton leaving winter said "MARK ASHTON would always be welcome at vicarage road ",so you share those sentiments do you
Billie wrote: So Mr Winter, were you or were you not party to a plot to vote J & V off the Board at the AGM? If so you are being something of a snake I think. Let us remember you are/were a mate of Ashton.Wake up. How would they know they were to be voted off? The only people who claim this are the Russos who are now proven to be untrustworthy publicity seekers. Seems to me the resignation was planned all along since they re-jigged the loans allowing them to demand instant payment.
smeg, Hemel says...
4:56pm Fri 1 Jan 10
WFC4ever, Watford says...
5:05pm Fri 1 Jan 10
herts hornet wrote:He was probably just putting a public face on..
smeg wrote:oh dear smeg .please do not be so naive !! and for the record those loans that were "re jigged " as you say are exactly the same as the Fordwat loans now in place !!! WAKE UP YOURSELF ,if you beleive in winter you beleive in Ashton in my opinion ,remember who appointed him ,remember how on Ashton leaving winter said "MARK ASHTON would always be welcome at vicarage road ",so you share those sentiments do youBillie wrote: So Mr Winter, were you or were you not party to a plot to vote J & V off the Board at the AGM? If so you are being something of a snake I think. Let us remember you are/were a mate of Ashton.Wake up. How would they know they were to be voted off? The only people who claim this are the Russos who are now proven to be untrustworthy publicity seekers. Seems to me the resignation was planned all along since they re-jigged the loans allowing them to demand instant payment.
Billie, Kings Langley says...
6:45pm Fri 1 Jan 10
smeg wrote:That is why they (GS and Ashcroft) went for the share block vote and not show of hands. It was a poorly kept secret smeg and not everyone involved felt it appropriate for the brothers to go into the AGM and be ambushed. There are still decent people around.
Billie wrote: So Mr Winter, were you or were you not party to a plot to vote J & V off the Board at the AGM? If so you are being something of a snake I think. Let us remember you are/were a mate of Ashton.Wake up. How would they know they were to be voted off? The only people who claim this are the Russos who are now proven to be untrustworthy publicity seekers. Seems to me the resignation was planned all along since they re-jigged the loans allowing them to demand instant payment.
smeg, Hemel says...
6:56pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Wags it all about?, watford says...
8:52pm Fri 1 Jan 10
smeg, Hemel says...
9:09pm Fri 1 Jan 10
Wags it all about? wrote:Of all you 'Russo can do no wrong' brigade, only Billie has put an argument up instead of just saying "we can't trust them", "old regime" yada yada yada. Give me a reason to trust the Russos and not just "they lent us money" with nothing to loose and everything to gain. And what exactly has Winter got to gain from any of this, apart from keeping his job?
Smeg and others that clearly can't see further than the end of their nose. What a crock of sh** Winter. You are someone NOT to be trusted, and you are in great company with Simpson, Ashcroft and his representatives. You went to great (and tedious) lengths to try and convince us that the Russo's were the 'bad guys' and the right thing for WFC was to back the one true solution to the club's ills - Ashcroft. This is laughable and kids only plonkers like Smeg and other clappers happy to digest the trollop dished up by the former (now same) regime SIMPSON/ASHCROFT (via Andy Wilson Strand representative), AND we now have the Mark Ashton appointed Winter CEO. Get ready for more 'rosey in the garden' claptrap'. Good deal for us O'Toole going to colchester and Hoofroyd was it Julian? One day all this will come out, hope you and your chronies know a good hiding place...
WFC4ever, Watford says...
9:30pm Fri 1 Jan 10
smeg, Hemel says...
10:25pm Fri 1 Jan 10
WFC4ever wrote:Dead right mate. But at the risk of sounding about 12... you started it! ;-)
It there any point to reading certain stories because all certain people is abuse each other without accepting that some might not agree with another ciew point? At least on match day reports and stories about the groundsman passing away you get good comments/debate but when it comes to the boardroom issues well its a waste of time... I wonder if the Russos will be in the Watford end or Chelsea's on Sunday!?
WFC4ever, Watford says...
11:05pm Fri 1 Jan 10
smeg wrote:I didn't mean to be rude but its little wonder the shareholders couldn't agree when our own fans cannot on the matter of ownership issues.
WFC4ever wrote: It there any point to reading certain stories because all certain people is abuse each other without accepting that some might not agree with another ciew point? At least on match day reports and stories about the groundsman passing away you get good comments/debate but when it comes to the boardroom issues well its a waste of time... I wonder if the Russos will be in the Watford end or Chelsea's on Sunday!?Dead right mate. But at the risk of sounding about 12... you started it! ;-)
Billie, Kings Langley says...
11:05pm Fri 1 Jan 10
smeg wrote:Thanks smeg for a constuctive dialogue. I have no doubt the Russo's are very tough business people...you don't deal with supermarket buyers if you are not...and I have no doubt they would have driven a similarly tough deal in taking over the club. Sorry to be mysterious, and I suspect I will get a load of abuse for this, but I have always found them truthful, and I am afraid we can all see the old regime, now the new rigime, quite simply has not. We have been told lies, and the 'shock' at the R's resignation is another lie, but never by Jim and Vince.
Wags it all about? wrote: Smeg and others that clearly can't see further than the end of their nose. What a crock of sh** Winter. You are someone NOT to be trusted, and you are in great company with Simpson, Ashcroft and his representatives. You went to great (and tedious) lengths to try and convince us that the Russo's were the 'bad guys' and the right thing for WFC was to back the one true solution to the club's ills - Ashcroft. This is laughable and kids only plonkers like Smeg and other clappers happy to digest the trollop dished up by the former (now same) regime SIMPSON/ASHCROFT (via Andy Wilson Strand representative), AND we now have the Mark Ashton appointed Winter CEO. Get ready for more 'rosey in the garden' claptrap'. Good deal for us O'Toole going to colchester and Hoofroyd was it Julian? One day all this will come out, hope you and your chronies know a good hiding place...Of all you 'Russo can do no wrong' brigade, only Billie has put an argument up instead of just saying "we can't trust them", "old regime" yada yada yada. Give me a reason to trust the Russos and not just "they lent us money" with nothing to loose and everything to gain. And what exactly has Winter got to gain from any of this, apart from keeping his job?
Garston Tony, Garston says...
9:21am Sat 2 Jan 10
yellowredblack, London says...
12:02pm Sat 2 Jan 10
Wags it all about?, watford says...
1:02pm Sat 2 Jan 10
Watford Boy, Watford says...
5:37pm Sat 2 Jan 10
WFC4ever, Watford says...
7:42pm Sat 2 Jan 10
Wags it all about? wrote:So you'd rather we had gone administration and all that goes with it?
yellowredblalck spot on. And for those mugs that are happy to believe the cods wallop emanating from ther club. Winter makes my stomach turn, he cites value he places on his staff but forgets to tell us he was Mark Ashton's hatchet man during the dark days, happily arranging gagging orders and removing any of the non nodding dog brigade. What will it take for some of you to realise that Ashcroft is NOT good news for our club. He was forced to come to the table in injury time and has offered a cheap temporary solution only.
yellowredblack, London says...
7:58pm Sat 2 Jan 10
Wags it all about?, watford says...
8:39pm Sat 2 Jan 10
WFC4ever, Watford says...
8:50pm Sat 2 Jan 10
yellowredblack wrote:That is fair enough...we need to know more about the future with regard to long term planing?
WFC4ever, obvious observation to your comment is of course not. My particular post was speculating beyond what has already happened. We are owned by someone who is not interested in the main business of the company, only what its property assets are and their potential. We have been saved but what is our future? Away from Vicarage Road? There is no stated intention to improve the football side of the business and the only plan admitted to is for the football side to survive within its own means. There is more to come whether the regeneration happens or whether it doesn't.
derry pigweed, northampton says...
9:52pm Sat 2 Jan 10
mclenaghan, London says...
8:58am Sun 3 Jan 10
john the greek, says...
9:30am Sun 3 Jan 10
Billie, Kings Langley says...
10:41am Sun 3 Jan 10
john the greek wrote:Good post john. The only problem is that Kevin Affleck sought to do the job you wish for on behalf of the WO and received derision from many fans, bullying from the (current) regime, and insults from the Supporters Trust, the latter being the most ludicrous of all.
We would be better off with the Russos than what we are going to get. I think they did all they could for the club and by their actions have forced other non contributing shareholders to get involved. Leaving the freehold of the ground in the hands of Lord Ashcroft is not a position most premiership and championship clubs would like to be in!! So it seems for the time being we are back in the hands of the real baddies. Love to be proven wrong if someone knows more. How about the WO does some investigative journalism!!
Billie, Kings Langley says...
11:12am Sun 3 Jan 10
Elton Bog, Pinner says...
7:11pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Billie, Kings Langley says...
7:20pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Elton Bog wrote:No Elt I do not believe it...not for one minute. I also did not believe Wilson when he claimed at an AGM that GS and Ashton had not sought share options. A former Director stated at that AGM he had evidence that they had. I have seen that evidence, which is just one small part of the reason why I question the rubbish that we are subjected to. The only serious tangible asset we have is the ground, hence loans being secured against it. The only attempt to take it away from the club has not come from the Russos. Watch this space when the money runs out again.
You don't believe it, Billie? A statement by the CEO of a publicly quoted company? I'm sure the Russos will refute this immediately if it's not true and the AIM might want a word too. Wouldn't hold my breath though........
Wags it all about?, watford says...
7:39pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Elton Bog, Pinner says...
8:39pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Wags it all about?, watford says...
9:58pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Elton Bog, Pinner says...
10:27pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Billie, Kings Langley says...
10:46pm Sun 3 Jan 10
Elton Bog wrote:As it happens Elt, I was born in Pinner. I am with Wags on this one, who, if my reckoning is correct, is in a position to know. A man of principle.
Wags, lets agree to disagree then. Time will tell.
Wags it all about?, watford says...
11:48am Mon 4 Jan 10
Chris the Vic, The Vic says...
4:29pm Mon 4 Jan 10
Wags it all about?, watford says...
7:37pm Mon 4 Jan 10
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WFC4ever, Watford says...
10:45am Fri 1 Jan 10