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Isaiah Osbourne's injury-time goal secures Blackpool a point after Watford surrender two-goal lead
5:07pm Saturday 24th November 2012 in Watford FC News
By Frank Smith, Deputy Group Sports Editor
Watford’s unbeaten run extends to five matches following today’s 2-2 draw with Blackpool but it felt like a defeat after Isaiah Osbourne denied the visitors victory with an injury-time goal.
The Hornets led 2-0 after just 21 minutes thanks to Ikechi Anya and Troy Deeney’s goals and Gianfranco Zola’s men were comfortable for most of the first half.
However, their inability to maintain possession meant the second period was a difficult one and after Kevin Phillips reduced the deficit shortly after the break, Osbourne scored from 20 yards in injury time to secure Pool a point.
Watford made four changes to their starting XI; Fitz Hall replaced the injured Lloyd Doyley, Cristian Battocchio made his first start due to Jonathan Hogg’s suspension, Anya was in for Marco Cassetti and Fernando Forestieri made way for Matej Vydra.
Both sides had corners early on but it was Watford who started the brighter and took the lead after just four minutes. Manuel Almunia gathered a Pool corner and rolled the ball out to Battocchio. He found Matej Vydra who slipped the ball through to Anya and the winger coolly slotted past Matt Gilks.
It was almost 2-0 moments later as Troy Deeney released Vydra on the right side of the penalty area and his pull back would have left Nathaniel Chalobah with a simple finish had Alex Baptiste not been there to clear.
The advantage was doubled midway through the half when Mark Yeates’ free kick fell to Deeney eight yards from goal and he hit his shot into the roof of the net.
The Hornets were extremely comfortable, particular in the opening half an hour. Elliot Grandin had a shot blocked and there were a couple of crosses sent into the area but the only time Watford’s goal was troubled was when Almunia took too long with a pass back and his clearance went straight to Phillips, who directed his header narrowly wide of the empty goal.
Pool improved as the half came to a close and shortly after the impressive Mark Yeates hit the side netting from 18 yards, Tom Ince forced Almunia to save after a jinking run.
But Watford were good value for their lead and were 2-0 up the break.
The home team started the second half much better than the first and Ince was put through minutes after the restart. His shot was straight at the on-rushing Almunia and was saved. Nathan Delfouneso also had a tame header easily saved.
Blackpool did reduce the deficit though when Watford failed to clear from a corner and a Pool attacker reached the byline and his low cross was turned in from close range by former Hornet Phillips.
Watford’s inability to keep possession did not cause too many problems in the first half but it did in the second. The Hornets were unable to retain the ball and if they were not attacking themselves, then the visitors were inviting pressure.
Delfouneso had a header comfortably saved and Gomes fired yards over the bar from distance but on the whole, Pool were unable to make the most of their possession.
Gomes was proving to be a real threat as the half went on. Within a minute, he forced Almunia to tip over, almost caught out the Watford goalkeeper with the resulting corner and then dragged wide from 18 yards.
Blackpool’s star man for much of this season has been Ince, who was relatively quiet in the opening 70 minutes. However, the England Under-21 international almost equalised when he cut on to his left foot and rattled the crossbar from 18 yards.
Michael Appleton’s men continued to be the side on the ascendancy and had a penalty appeal turned down with 15 minutes remaining when they believed a shot hit the arm of Hall.
One of the few times Watford maintained possession it ended with a decent chance for Zola’s men. After a period of possession, a 40-yard diagonal ball from Murray released Deeney, who cut inside the defender, laid the ball off to Battocchio but his shot was blocked. Chalobah had a shot from distance saved also.
Pool continued to search for their equaliser though and Almunia needed to tip Wes Thomas’ header wide with less than ten minutes remaining.
It looked as though the Hornets would hold on for the five minutes of injury time but when Ince ran across the edge of the area, Osbourne curled a 20-yard shot past Almunia and into the bottom corner.
Ince sliced a long-rabge effort wide but the rest of injury time was largely uneventful and Watford had to settle for a point.
Blackpool: Gilks; Broadfoot, Baptiste, Cathcart, Crainey; Basham, Sylvestre (Osbourne HT); Grandin (Gomes 29), Delfouneso, Ince; K. Phillips (Thomas 68).
Subs: Harris, Angel, Dicko, Halstead.
Watford: Almunia; Ekstrand, Hall, Hoban; Anya (Cassetti 60), Yeates (Murray 75), Battocchio, Chalobah, Pudil; Deeney, Vydra (Forestieri 82).
Subs: Bond, Thompson, Smith, Geijo.
Referee: Kevin Wright.
Attendance: 13,076.
Comments(50)
AngelHornet
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5:26pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Didn't attend, but by all accounts we didn't keep posession very well and Blackpool deserved the draw.
Good experience for Battochio and yet another game under his belt for Chalobah. Hopefully Abdi will be back soon as well as Hogg after his suspension.
We have plenty of depth to our squad, which will definitely benefit us in the New Year and we are in a good position to push towards the play-offs
WJames
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5:29pm Sat 24 Nov 12
mattymashup
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5:30pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WatfordTalk
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5:31pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WJames wrote:If a draw away at Blackpool, missing our best player is a 'pathetic result', then you have extremely high standards.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
weeblehorn
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5:33pm Sat 24 Nov 12
aussihornet
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5:34pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Listening to it on radio, it was depressing, not one shot I think. Not sure if just sitting back on a lead or what!?
Blackburn, Cardiff, Ipswich, Blackpool, could be more. How many lost points down to door late defending. Defence has been immense, but it's truly a letdown these last min goals.
Hopefully Abdi back, as midfield three at end, were 17,18,19 years old. Needed that calmness on the ball.
Hopefully Hogg/abdi/both back for Tues.
Would have taken point before, however feels like a loss, oh well, undefeated Nov so far!
aussihornet
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5:37pm Sat 24 Nov 12
lutondown
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5:37pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WJames wrote:Question was you actually there?
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
We were very good most of first half, they dominated second. We are 11 th and two places off play off places. We badly missed Abdi and we need a captain to galvanise but a point at Blackpool is a good point.
Fair play to fellow Horns who actually attended and supported to the end.
A fair result
CARDIFFHORN
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5:41pm Sat 24 Nov 12
lutondown
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5:44pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Eastsussexhornet
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5:46pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WatfordTalk wrote:Agreed. The first post was supposed to be provocative and it worked. Wonder how long he's supported them, a couple of years? We have though conceded a lot of last minute goals but it is nearly always the sign of a lack of professionalism or an ever changing "not quite gelled" team and we've suffered from both in the past, at the moment emerging from the latter. Counter to that, an incredibly high percentage of goals are scored in the last 10 mins and we sometimes forget the times it has happened positively for us, like at Crystal Palace for instance. Yes, a shame but I would have taken a draw before it started. Pathetic? Of course it wasn't.
WJames wrote:If a draw away at Blackpool, missing our best player is a 'pathetic result', then you have extremely high standards.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
grahamwfc
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5:53pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Eastsussexhornet wrote:w clearly stands for W***ker
WatfordTalk wrote:Agreed. The first post was supposed to be provocative and it worked. Wonder how long he's supported them, a couple of years? We have though conceded a lot of last minute goals but it is nearly always the sign of a lack of professionalism or an ever changing "not quite gelled" team and we've suffered from both in the past, at the moment emerging from the latter. Counter to that, an incredibly high percentage of goals are scored in the last 10 mins and we sometimes forget the times it has happened positively for us, like at Crystal Palace for instance. Yes, a shame but I would have taken a draw before it started. Pathetic? Of course it wasn't.
WJames wrote:If a draw away at Blackpool, missing our best player is a 'pathetic result', then you have extremely high standards.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
allgood
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5:53pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Eastsussexhornet
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5:57pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Eastsussexhornet
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5:58pm Sat 24 Nov 12
grahamwfc wrote:After quickly checking whether there was a "w" in eastsussexhornet, yes may me, but as I say, just trying to be provocative I think. By 5.50 next Sat, we'll be in the play-offs. There you are, now I am being provocative....”
Eastsussexhornet wrote:w clearly stands for W***ker
WatfordTalk wrote:Agreed. The first post was supposed to be provocative and it worked. Wonder how long he's supported them, a couple of years? We have though conceded a lot of last minute goals but it is nearly always the sign of a lack of professionalism or an ever changing "not quite gelled" team and we've suffered from both in the past, at the moment emerging from the latter. Counter to that, an incredibly high percentage of goals are scored in the last 10 mins and we sometimes forget the times it has happened positively for us, like at Crystal Palace for instance. Yes, a shame but I would have taken a draw before it started. Pathetic? Of course it wasn't.
WJames wrote:If a draw away at Blackpool, missing our best player is a 'pathetic result', then you have extremely high standards.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
Holly68
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6:00pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Get a grip people, so we've conceded a few late goals, isn't that when your at your most tired ? We've also scored a few late ones !
If it had been 2-2 and we'd started 2 down, we'd all be raving at a comeback.
A DRAW yes a DRAW and the negative undertones simmer again !
Couldn't be there today, but going Tuesday, which will be another tough game despite their form, we only need to be Top 10 end Jan, Top 6 end Feb and we are on track.
lutondown
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6:02pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Holly68 wrote:Well said Lola!
Reminder : Chalobah 17, Murray 18, Hoban 18, Battochio 19, Vydra 20
Get a grip people, so we've conceded a few late goals, isn't that when your at your most tired ? We've also scored a few late ones !
If it had been 2-2 and we'd started 2 down, we'd all be raving at a comeback.
A DRAW yes a DRAW and the negative undertones simmer again !
Couldn't be there today, but going Tuesday, which will be another tough game despite their form, we only need to be Top 10 end Jan, Top 6 end Feb and we are on track.
WessexLad
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6:05pm Sat 24 Nov 12
The midfield needed more presence in the second half. Battocchio started well but seemed to fade; maybe he should have been replaced instead of Yeats.
Could it be that we aren't making the most logical subs through the need to give everyone in an overlarge squad some game time?
micksolly
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6:15pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Harrydownunder
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6:17pm Sat 24 Nov 12
lutondown
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6:18pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WessexLad wrote:No that want the issue. You could not have picked out any from ten who played well second half.
All credit to the Horns who made the trip; they came over loud and clear on 3CR.
The midfield needed more presence in the second half. Battocchio started well but seemed to fade; maybe he should have been replaced instead of Yeats.
Could it be that we aren't making the most logical subs through the need to give everyone in an overlarge squad some game time?
Yeates started very well then the I am Maradonna delusion be set him. I think it was more down to how well Blackpool played and sometimes that happens.
Chabolah was strangely off the boil.
Tell you what I think was missing..Abdi.
Looking forward to more of the negative nellys appearing now there's something to moan about ( a disastrous draw away to Blackpool)!
lutondown
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6:20pm Sat 24 Nov 12
aussihornet wrote:Btw Hogg was awful against Wolves.
I agree. We're doing ok with decent results recently, but oh dear, how it feels like a loss.
Listening to it on radio, it was depressing, not one shot I think. Not sure if just sitting back on a lead or what!?
Blackburn, Cardiff, Ipswich, Blackpool, could be more. How many lost points down to door late defending. Defence has been immense, but it's truly a letdown these last min goals.
Hopefully Abdi back, as midfield three at end, were 17,18,19 years old. Needed that calmness on the ball.
Hopefully Hogg/abdi/both back for Tues.
Would have taken point before, however feels like a loss, oh well, undefeated Nov so far!
How fickle we are, but yes bring back Abdi and let Battachio and Murray have a run?
Bringe
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6:25pm Sat 24 Nov 12
On another note, I wish Malky would hurry up with his annual collapse before a gap opens up.
francowatford
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6:39pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Terry Dactile
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7:13pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WJames wrote:What a plonk*r! We are so ahead of schedule at the moment it is amazing. A draw at Blackpool is an excellent result and with Yeates being the experience in midfield and the being subbed for another 18 year old (3 in midfield), it was hardly surprising they equalised. It was always on the cards with so many midfield injuries and Hogg suspended.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
lutondown
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7:20pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Terry Dactile wrote:Exactly, and to pick out Battachio is mad. He played a brilliant ball for our first goal. I don't want to pick any one out but to be honest Chabolah was poor, but then as I said before we were up against a very fired up Blackpool team in second half.
WJames wrote:What a plonk*r! We are so ahead of schedule at the moment it is amazing. A draw at Blackpool is an excellent result and with Yeates being the experience in midfield and the being subbed for another 18 year old (3 in midfield), it was hardly surprising they equalised. It was always on the cards with so many midfield injuries and Hogg suspended.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
They did do us Midfield, but we were missing our best player today, Abdi.
Btw we did not lose.
SAHornet
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7:46pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WJames wrote:Ludicrous comment. Not worthy. I wasn't there but listened all afternoon on H Player. Yes we let slip a 2 goal advantage but we're still getting our sh*t together and were without 2 influencial game players in Abdi & Eustace. Reckon it might be you that needs to grow a pair fella. A point at Bloomfield Rd isn't so bad.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
Bush Hornet
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7:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12
lutondown wrote:Yes I'm sure Batch just needs game time. Anyway GZ admits it'd be easier to keep the ball with Abs on the pitch. We'll be awesome in latter part of season if these young guns get consistent. Sounds like our defence did well in the onslaught except no one got to grips with Gomes
Terry Dactile wrote:Exactly, and to pick out Battachio is mad. He played a brilliant ball for our first goal. I don't want to pick any one out but to be honest Chabolah was poor, but then as I said before we were up against a very fired up Blackpool team in second half.
WJames wrote:What a plonk*r! We are so ahead of schedule at the moment it is amazing. A draw at Blackpool is an excellent result and with Yeates being the experience in midfield and the being subbed for another 18 year old (3 in midfield), it was hardly surprising they equalised. It was always on the cards with so many midfield injuries and Hogg suspended.
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
They did do us Midfield, but we were missing our best player today, Abdi.
Btw we did not lose.
DuffmanWFC
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8:57pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Yeah it's pants letting a goal in so late in the game but when you think about it properly at the end of the day we still have a good unbeaten run going and we are just a few points from play-offs and still got the likes of Abdi, Hogg, Eustace, Mungi Bai and Bauben to come back into the squad! Not all bad you know!
Travelling Hornet
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9:03pm Sat 24 Nov 12
WJames wrote:No, you're patetic
Not good enough. I couldn't care less if we are doing well at the moment, you should never go 2-0 up and draw against another Championship side. Where is Watford's backbone? For as long as I've supported them we have always conceded last minute goals, more than any other club. The team and manager need to grow a pair and stop acting like scared little boys when it comes to the final minute at 'intimidating' places like Blackpool. Pathetic result and so, so, so predictable.
Stoney77
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9:19pm Sat 24 Nov 12
1) We have won more points in the last minutes of games than we have lost: (Palace, Huddersfield and Peterborough for; Blackpool, Blackburn and Ipswich against) - discounting Cardiff as we did not throw it away, we simply couldn't hold on with a 2 man deficit.
2) We are unbeaten in Nov, having played 5 very tough fixtures
3) 2-0 up is always a dangerous scoreline. It's a game of two halves.
4) our aim this year is to finish above 11th
5) We are still jelling as a team and finding our feet.
6) we were missing key players today
Basically you win some, you lose some. Judging by the stats we were **** lucky to get a point anyway!
I said to myself before the game today that if we won today I would start dreaming of automatic promotion. I guess the performance showed we've still lots to learn and lots of room for improvement, so I've crashed back down to earth after flying high at 3.21pm this afternoon!
We have to remember at the beginning of this season most of us dared not dream of going up this season and it's easy to get lost in the excitement and become impatient so fingers crossed we can push. However, who knows it might actually be better in the long term for us to miss out on promotion this year and keep on building a massively solid team next year, rip the division apart next season, giving young players like Hoban, Murray, Vydra, Forestieri, Battochio etc more experience and time to get even better and maybe we will stand a better chance in the prem the year after (if we make it up of course!!).
Bush Hornet
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9:47pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Stoney77 wrote:well said stoney
Seen loads of negative comments on twitter and facebook about how 'we always throw it way'. These pillocks do my head in. Yes it is always gutting to lose points in the last few minutes but they need to consider the following:
1) We have won more points in the last minutes of games than we have lost: (Palace, Huddersfield and Peterborough for; Blackpool, Blackburn and Ipswich against) - discounting Cardiff as we did not throw it away, we simply couldn't hold on with a 2 man deficit.
2) We are unbeaten in Nov, having played 5 very tough fixtures
3) 2-0 up is always a dangerous scoreline. It's a game of two halves.
4) our aim this year is to finish above 11th
5) We are still jelling as a team and finding our feet.
6) we were missing key players today
Basically you win some, you lose some. Judging by the stats we were **** lucky to get a point anyway!
I said to myself before the game today that if we won today I would start dreaming of automatic promotion. I guess the performance showed we've still lots to learn and lots of room for improvement, so I've crashed back down to earth after flying high at 3.21pm this afternoon!
We have to remember at the beginning of this season most of us dared not dream of going up this season and it's easy to get lost in the excitement and become impatient so fingers crossed we can push. However, who knows it might actually be better in the long term for us to miss out on promotion this year and keep on building a massively solid team next year, rip the division apart next season, giving young players like Hoban, Murray, Vydra, Forestieri, Battochio etc more experience and time to get even better and maybe we will stand a better chance in the prem the year after (if we make it up of course!!).
mkgoldenboys
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10:06pm Sat 24 Nov 12
KeithMercer
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10:23pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Stoney77 wrote:Great Post Stoney !!
Seen loads of negative comments on twitter and facebook about how 'we always throw it way'. These pillocks do my head in. Yes it is always gutting to lose points in the last few minutes but they need to consider the following:
1) We have won more points in the last minutes of games than we have lost: (Palace, Huddersfield and Peterborough for; Blackpool, Blackburn and Ipswich against) - discounting Cardiff as we did not throw it away, we simply couldn't hold on with a 2 man deficit.
2) We are unbeaten in Nov, having played 5 very tough fixtures
3) 2-0 up is always a dangerous scoreline. It's a game of two halves.
4) our aim this year is to finish above 11th
5) We are still jelling as a team and finding our feet.
6) we were missing key players today
Basically you win some, you lose some. Judging by the stats we were **** lucky to get a point anyway!
I said to myself before the game today that if we won today I would start dreaming of automatic promotion. I guess the performance showed we've still lots to learn and lots of room for improvement, so I've crashed back down to earth after flying high at 3.21pm this afternoon!
We have to remember at the beginning of this season most of us dared not dream of going up this season and it's easy to get lost in the excitement and become impatient so fingers crossed we can push. However, who knows it might actually be better in the long term for us to miss out on promotion this year and keep on building a massively solid team next year, rip the division apart next season, giving young players like Hoban, Murray, Vydra, Forestieri, Battochio etc more experience and time to get even better and maybe we will stand a better chance in the prem the year after (if we make it up of course!!).
still feeling gutted though !
lutondown
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10:31pm Sat 24 Nov 12
KeithMercer wrote:Just in. Still slightly sick, but it was a fair result
Stoney77 wrote:Great Post Stoney !!
Seen loads of negative comments on twitter and facebook about how 'we always throw it way'. These pillocks do my head in. Yes it is always gutting to lose points in the last few minutes but they need to consider the following:
1) We have won more points in the last minutes of games than we have lost: (Palace, Huddersfield and Peterborough for; Blackpool, Blackburn and Ipswich against) - discounting Cardiff as we did not throw it away, we simply couldn't hold on with a 2 man deficit.
2) We are unbeaten in Nov, having played 5 very tough fixtures
3) 2-0 up is always a dangerous scoreline. It's a game of two halves.
4) our aim this year is to finish above 11th
5) We are still jelling as a team and finding our feet.
6) we were missing key players today
Basically you win some, you lose some. Judging by the stats we were **** lucky to get a point anyway!
I said to myself before the game today that if we won today I would start dreaming of automatic promotion. I guess the performance showed we've still lots to learn and lots of room for improvement, so I've crashed back down to earth after flying high at 3.21pm this afternoon!
We have to remember at the beginning of this season most of us dared not dream of going up this season and it's easy to get lost in the excitement and become impatient so fingers crossed we can push. However, who knows it might actually be better in the long term for us to miss out on promotion this year and keep on building a massively solid team next year, rip the division apart next season, giving young players like Hoban, Murray, Vydra, Forestieri, Battochio etc more experience and time to get even better and maybe we will stand a better chance in the prem the year after (if we make it up of course!!).
still feeling gutted though !
Cream crackered
Summer breeze
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11:02pm Sat 24 Nov 12
jasonwatford
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11:19pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Poppet Bear
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12:04am Sun 25 Nov 12
Hampshire hornet
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12:05am Sun 25 Nov 12
Best get another one ready for Tuesday...
stevyweavy
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12:14am Sun 25 Nov 12
WJames
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1:50am Sun 25 Nov 12
We’re a great club, we need to remember that. Zola’s doing a good job and the best of luck to him. However, we have a mentality that taking anything from a match is a ‘good result’. Being 2-0 up, coming under pressure and then drawing isn’t a good result. Accept it. Good teams know how to handle situations like this; even when they concede one they either play the game out or hang on. We don’t. I wasn’t there yesterday, glad not to have been, 2-1 after 50 minutes was an obvious bottle job by the team.
Given our record for throwing good results away, can any of you really say you were surprised by the equaliser? Genuinely?
As for the ‘good result’ comments – I’d be devastated to see you on my team; you’re the antonym (opposite..) of ‘ambition’ and ‘own a pair’.
SAHornet
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7:19am Sun 25 Nov 12
WJames wrote:Equally rubbishy post as your first one, pal (pick the bad grammer out of that). Shows that you're not prepared to conceed that we're still a team in the making. Yes, we give up leads and sometimes, seemingly too easily but there again, we also fight when we're down and sometimes, especially under GZ, break through to win matches from behind. Are we a "good team" yet? Probably not in the full and consistent sense of the word but we're getting there and that's what counts over the full length of the season which, unless you haven't noticed, is only 18 games in. If you don't think that a draw is a pretty good result up there at Bloomfield Rd then you levels of expectation are far too fickle.
Passion-fuelled post but 100% correct. I unfortunately got accustomed to last minute equalisers and losing goals back when Steve Butler, Perry Digweed, Keith Dublin, etc were playing...were you there old/new boy (poor and obvious ‘argument’ by the way)? Equally, we’ll discount “Was you there?” as an intellectual argument on grammatical grounds.
We’re a great club, we need to remember that. Zola’s doing a good job and the best of luck to him. However, we have a mentality that taking anything from a match is a ‘good result’. Being 2-0 up, coming under pressure and then drawing isn’t a good result. Accept it. Good teams know how to handle situations like this; even when they concede one they either play the game out or hang on. We don’t. I wasn’t there yesterday, glad not to have been, 2-1 after 50 minutes was an obvious bottle job by the team.
Given our record for throwing good results away, can any of you really say you were surprised by the equaliser? Genuinely?
As for the ‘good result’ comments – I’d be devastated to see you on my team; you’re the antonym (opposite..) of ‘ambition’ and ‘own a pair’.
lutondown
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7:41am Sun 25 Nov 12
WJames wrote:So I'll cede grammatical superiority to you, but then it's easy to be a wordsmith from the comfort of your armchair.
Passion-fuelled post but 100% correct. I unfortunately got accustomed to last minute equalisers and losing goals back when Steve Butler, Perry Digweed, Keith Dublin, etc were playing...were you there old/new boy (poor and obvious ‘argument’ by the way)? Equally, we’ll discount “Was you there?” as an intellectual argument on grammatical grounds.
We’re a great club, we need to remember that. Zola’s doing a good job and the best of luck to him. However, we have a mentality that taking anything from a match is a ‘good result’. Being 2-0 up, coming under pressure and then drawing isn’t a good result. Accept it. Good teams know how to handle situations like this; even when they concede one they either play the game out or hang on. We don’t. I wasn’t there yesterday, glad not to have been, 2-1 after 50 minutes was an obvious bottle job by the team.
Given our record for throwing good results away, can any of you really say you were surprised by the equaliser? Genuinely?
As for the ‘good result’ comments – I’d be devastated to see you on my team; you’re the antonym (opposite..) of ‘ambition’ and ‘own a pair’.
This is a very young team, and no one likes winning more than me, but I'm prepared to fore sake my natural impatience as this potentially brilliant team develops.
Bottled it? No they never, overrun perhaps, but a good Blackpool team had a massive say in that.
Now I'm off to buy a copy of English Grammar for dummies, so I can put the question to you correctly..we're you there?
By the way I wasn't berating you for not being so, but sometimes you don't see the full picture from a few paper reports.
lutondown
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7:42am Sun 25 Nov 12
lutondown wrote:Thank you auto correct! For a third time... Were you there!
WJames wrote:So I'll cede grammatical superiority to you, but then it's easy to be a wordsmith from the comfort of your armchair.
Passion-fuelled post but 100% correct. I unfortunately got accustomed to last minute equalisers and losing goals back when Steve Butler, Perry Digweed, Keith Dublin, etc were playing...were you there old/new boy (poor and obvious ‘argument’ by the way)? Equally, we’ll discount “Was you there?” as an intellectual argument on grammatical grounds.
We’re a great club, we need to remember that. Zola’s doing a good job and the best of luck to him. However, we have a mentality that taking anything from a match is a ‘good result’. Being 2-0 up, coming under pressure and then drawing isn’t a good result. Accept it. Good teams know how to handle situations like this; even when they concede one they either play the game out or hang on. We don’t. I wasn’t there yesterday, glad not to have been, 2-1 after 50 minutes was an obvious bottle job by the team.
Given our record for throwing good results away, can any of you really say you were surprised by the equaliser? Genuinely?
As for the ‘good result’ comments – I’d be devastated to see you on my team; you’re the antonym (opposite..) of ‘ambition’ and ‘own a pair’.
This is a very young team, and no one likes winning more than me, but I'm prepared to fore sake my natural impatience as this potentially brilliant team develops.
Bottled it? No they never, overrun perhaps, but a good Blackpool team had a massive say in that.
Now I'm off to buy a copy of English Grammar for dummies, so I can put the question to you correctly..we're you there?
By the way I wasn't berating you for not being so, but sometimes you don't see the full picture from a few paper reports.
jasonwatford
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9:56am Sun 25 Nov 12
Eastsussexhornet
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10:51am Sun 25 Nov 12
CARDIFFHORN wrote:And, from what I hear, it didn't feel like a loss for the Watford fans who went there as the 2nd goal was always on it's way. Much like the feeling I had at Cardiff, which presumably you went to also.
Although disappointing after being 2up its still a point at a tough venue. How did Anya and Battochio play? Oh we'll KJ can take manager of the month and we will push into the play offs over Christmas/ new year.
Eastsussexhornet
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10:55am Sun 25 Nov 12
WJames wrote:I'd just retreat from this if I was you. I think there's some show jumping on later....
Passion-fuelled post but 100% correct. I unfortunately got accustomed to last minute equalisers and losing goals back when Steve Butler, Perry Digweed, Keith Dublin, etc were playing...were you there old/new boy (poor and obvious ‘argument’ by the way)? Equally, we’ll discount “Was you there?” as an intellectual argument on grammatical grounds.
We’re a great club, we need to remember that. Zola’s doing a good job and the best of luck to him. However, we have a mentality that taking anything from a match is a ‘good result’. Being 2-0 up, coming under pressure and then drawing isn’t a good result. Accept it. Good teams know how to handle situations like this; even when they concede one they either play the game out or hang on. We don’t. I wasn’t there yesterday, glad not to have been, 2-1 after 50 minutes was an obvious bottle job by the team.
Given our record for throwing good results away, can any of you really say you were surprised by the equaliser? Genuinely?
As for the ‘good result’ comments – I’d be devastated to see you on my team; you’re the antonym (opposite..) of ‘ambition’ and ‘own a pair’.
Endean was our King
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1:00pm Sun 25 Nov 12
So, to the morning after and my thought provoking comments on our display.
As mentioned on a few post's, we started brightly first half lots of possession and good movement for the first goal. Troy took the second well and was a constant thorn up front.
I was looking forward to seeing young Battachio and he did not disappoint but needs game time to adapt to the Championship, he has a good touch though. I felt that Chalobah was not really up for a battle and was caught in possession to often.
In all the games I have seen this
season I have been surprised at the way Yeats has adapted, not blessed with pace but does put in some good balls with a good right peg.
At the back I once again think that Pudil gets into good positions but has a tendency to waste the final ball and if he only had a right foot! Fitz Hall commanding but faded later in the game when we were bombarded!
I like the look of Ekstrand and Young TH looks a good prospect, comfortable in possession.
My only real criticism is for Alumunia, he does a lot of shouting but takes his eye off the ball to much for my liking and nearly got caught out again with a cross or shot from Ince.
All in all the future looks promising.
Now off for a stroll down the Windy/wet Golden Mile and a few beers.
Keep the faith and up the orn's!
GianlucaVialli the better italian
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10:30pm Sun 25 Nov 12
WatfordTalk says...
5:24pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Decent point away against a good side on the rise. Sounds like we were very poor second half so draw is probably fair. Can't see anything other than a Watford win on Tuesday. Cemented in the play-off by Christmas.
COYH