Watford in contract talks with Deeney and Assombalonga (From Watford Observer)

All sounds good.

what is happening with regard to ;
Pudil , Abdi , Vydra , FF , Ekstrand ?
it is 11th Janauary, we were told all being signed permantley thought would have been done by now considering they have been here all season ,

why no confirmation bid was made for Brady by the club Frank ? every other media outlet confirmed it ,it would be nice for the club to keep its fans informed ?

good news talks with Deeney underway , what about Hall , he is on 1 year deal which expires in summer too ?

bigthunder wrote:
what is happening with regard to ;
Pudil , Abdi , Vydra , FF , Ekstrand ?
it is 11th Janauary, we were told all being signed permantley thought would have been done by now considering they have been here all season ,

why no confirmation bid was made for Brady by the club Frank ? every other media outlet confirmed it ,it would be nice for the club to keep its fans informed ?

good news talks with Deeney underway , what about Hall , he is on 1 year deal which expires in summer too ?

Is 'transfer embargo' still in place until a ruling on 'financial irregularities' at the club is made.?!

It's all still hanging and unresolved ( fine, points deduction?) and may be affecting transfer activity.

As I recall, QPR had to wait until last game of the season in their promotion year before they were told they were not having points deducted for allegedly bending financial rules.. are we now in the same position?

bigthunder wrote:
what is happening with regard to ; Pudil , Abdi , Vydra , FF , Ekstrand ? it is 11th Janauary, we were told all being signed permantley thought would have been done by now considering they have been here all season , why no confirmation bid was made for Brady by the club Frank ? every other media outlet confirmed it ,it would be nice for the club to keep its fans informed ? good news talks with Deeney underway , what about Hall , he is on 1 year deal which expires in summer too ?

I too hoped they'd have signed by now, but I'm also in no doubt that it'll happen before the end of the month. Vydra, Abdi, Ekstrand, Pudil, Fessi, Geijo etc are contracted within the group already (be it for Udinese or Granada) so they're obviously not as pressing as the likes of Deeney and Assombolonga - and if Hall and Almunia aren't also being looked at, I'd be very surprised.

I quite like the Pozzos' line of responding to nothing in the media. I'd rather they got on with actually doing things as opposed to spending their time confirming or denying everything that was reported.

Embargo or not they are all contracted to the Pozzo regime and are all on a season long deal with us, to worry at this moment in time is not really neccessary.
However the signatures of Troy and Britt will be welcome and I can see them both featuring, even in the premiership next season.

Will the 'orns get involved in the current spat between the Salad Brothers and the Bassman???

Apparently the Russo's have "frozen Bassini's assets ..." over alleged debts of £3.5m???

I really don't understand this massive desire to sign the loanees permanently. Under a normal loan, such as Chalobah's, yes, I agree, it would be great to sign him permanently. The others though are owned by Udinese. These players will remain in England if they have the desire to and if the club wants them to, whether they are officially owned by Udinese or Watford.

I really don't understand the benefit of signing them. If they are successful with us, and hopefully help us to promotion they will stay with us, even on another loan next year(s).

If we were to sign them permanently, the Pozzo's would still have control of where these players ultimately played. For example if the Udinese manager wanted Vydra for example, the Pozzos's have the influence to make us sell him to Udinese for peanuts. We wouldn't get the benefit of ownership.

If we were to sell one of these players in the future, I'm sure Udinese would receive the vast majority of the money anyway, as we would owe them millions anyway in signing these players. It is just a paper trial.

If anyone thinks I am critizing the new regime, they could not be further from the truth. This is brilliant for Watford. I think we need to look at the bigger picture and include Udinese (and Granada) in our thoughts. If there is a player owned by the group of clubs he will be deployed to help any of the clubs as the Pozzo's see fit. It doesn't actually matter who actually owns his registration. It is just unnecessary paperwork.

Finally, I apolgise for the ramblings but onwards and upwards we go with the Pozzo's.

One of my mates is a big Southend fan and he says Britt Assombalonga has had a great impact down there not just with his goals but also with his link up play. Their fans are desperate for him to stay till the end of the season and it would make sense for both clubs because I can't see him getting much of a look in with us.

He would definitely be worth keeping as he has the potential to really develop over the next couple of years. I am pleased to see the club is showing commitment to some of the promising youngsters coming through the ranks. It would be silly to let these guys drift away or be sold off on the cheap.

I still think we need some more cover in the goalkeeping dept. Almunia's not a bad shot stopper but his distribution is bordering on the casual and is an accident waiting to happen.

Re: player signings ... I can understand the thought see "why would we" seeing as they are already part of the wider Pozzo family. But ... maybe there are P&L / tax or other reasons why they would want to move player registrations around from country to country?
Still, nice to see we're still encouraging our own home-grown talent to sign - this sends an excellent message to other promising youngsters in and around the area.

The reason why we'll sign them is because they want Watford to be the main project as we have much more chance of making them more money due to the Premier League and sponsorship in general and us signing these would be showing we mean business and to stop people mentioning the loanees!

WD18Chris wrote:
I really don't understand this massive desire to sign the loanees permanently. Under a normal loan, such as Chalobah's, yes, I agree, it would be great to sign him permanently. The others though are owned by Udinese. These players will remain in England if they have the desire to and if the club wants them to, whether they are officially owned by Udinese or Watford.

I really don't understand the benefit of signing them. If they are successful with us, and hopefully help us to promotion they will stay with us, even on another loan next year(s).

If we were to sign them permanently, the Pozzo's would still have control of where these players ultimately played. For example if the Udinese manager wanted Vydra for example, the Pozzos's have the influence to make us sell him to Udinese for peanuts. We wouldn't get the benefit of ownership.

If we were to sell one of these players in the future, I'm sure Udinese would receive the vast majority of the money anyway, as we would owe them millions anyway in signing these players. It is just a paper trial.

If anyone thinks I am critizing the new regime, they could not be further from the truth. This is brilliant for Watford. I think we need to look at the bigger picture and include Udinese (and Granada) in our thoughts. If there is a player owned by the group of clubs he will be deployed to help any of the clubs as the Pozzo's see fit. It doesn't actually matter who actually owns his registration. It is just unnecessary paperwork.

Finally, I apolgise for the ramblings but onwards and upwards we go with the Pozzo's.

it would be good if they were officially WFC players just to shut up Martin Samuel and his ilk

WD18Chris wrote:
I really don't understand this massive desire to sign the loanees permanently. Under a normal loan, such as Chalobah's, yes, I agree, it would be great to sign him permanently. The others though are owned by Udinese. These players will remain in England if they have the desire to and if the club wants them to, whether they are officially owned by Udinese or Watford.

I really don't understand the benefit of signing them. If they are successful with us, and hopefully help us to promotion they will stay with us, even on another loan next year(s).

If we were to sign them permanently, the Pozzo's would still have control of where these players ultimately played. For example if the Udinese manager wanted Vydra for example, the Pozzos's have the influence to make us sell him to Udinese for peanuts. We wouldn't get the benefit of ownership.

If we were to sell one of these players in the future, I'm sure Udinese would receive the vast majority of the money anyway, as we would owe them millions anyway in signing these players. It is just a paper trial.

If anyone thinks I am critizing the new regime, they could not be further from the truth. This is brilliant for Watford. I think we need to look at the bigger picture and include Udinese (and Granada) in our thoughts. If there is a player owned by the group of clubs he will be deployed to help any of the clubs as the Pozzo's see fit. It doesn't actually matter who actually owns his registration. It is just unnecessary paperwork.

Finally, I apolgise for the ramblings but onwards and upwards we go with the Pozzo's.

Thought provoking.. Have to say i agree.. Why pay out when we don't need to, signing with a transfer fee at the moment is madness.. Also we would take of their wages.. We need to be solvent first and a sustainable business.. Onwards to 15k per home game, and the loanees signing at the end of the season..

We would still be criticised by individuals like M Samuel for having too many foreign players or some other total nonsense.

We don't need to care what tw*ts like him think of our club and the Pozzo's don't need to sign these players to send out a signal.

The only signal we need is our continued climb up the table.

Really expect Deeney to sign after the loyalty the club has shown him.

I thought it was bad enough with Samuels, but listening to the Sky football panel last Saturday pontificating about us without a clue about what is going at the Vic was just as annoying.

I thought it was bad enough with Samuels, but listening to the Sky football panel last Saturday pontificating about us without a clue about what is going at the Vic was just as annoying.

I thought it was bad enough with Samuels, but listening to the Sky football panel last Saturday pontificating about us without a clue about what is going at the Vic was just as annoying.

I thought it was bad enough with Samuels, but listening to the Sky football panel last Saturday pontificating about us without a clue about what is going at the Vic was just as annoying.

Assombalonga has signed a new deal

AngelHornet wrote:
Assombalonga has signed a new deal

Great news

bigthunder wrote:
what is happening with regard to ;
Pudil , Abdi , Vydra , FF , Ekstrand ?
it is 11th Janauary, we were told all being signed permantley thought would have been done by now considering they have been here all season ,

why no confirmation bid was made for Brady by the club Frank ? every other media outlet confirmed it ,it would be nice for the club to keep its fans informed ?

good news talks with Deeney underway , what about Hall , he is on 1 year deal which expires in summer too ?

Just in defence of Frank, he's probably not allowed to speculate. We all have r and Rs to follow in our line of work.
Anyway id rather wait to hear fact, there's a big enough rumour mill as it is.
Having said that I will speculate. They have signed, and it will become affirmed when all other negotiations with current players are complete.

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote:
Grapefruit.

Nuts
There I bit! Gian

I wasn't either a great fan of Deeney or one of those that wanted to get rid of him after his eventful summer but I hope he takes account of the support the club gave him during these negotiations.

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
I wasn't either a great fan of Deeney or one of those that wanted to get rid of him after his eventful summer but I hope he takes account of the support the club gave him during these negotiations.

It'll all come down to the money, sadly that's how the world is

Ignorance of the Watford rise to prominence continues all over.
The curb crawler Pleat was on TalkSport yesterday pontificating with Keys and Gray about every club in the Championship. When it came to the Horns all he could muster was "its a bit of a strange one whats going on at Watford !! " lets move on and talk about other teams whos players I have heard of before "
Great insightful stuff from the former scummer and his two sexist dinosaur chums.

KeithMercer wrote:
Ignorance of the Watford rise to prominence continues all over.
The curb crawler Pleat was on TalkSport yesterday pontificating with Keys and Gray about every club in the Championship. When it came to the Horns all he could muster was "its a bit of a strange one whats going on at Watford !! " lets move on and talk about other teams whos players I have heard of before "
Great insightful stuff from the former scummer and his two sexist dinosaur chums.

I wonder how many other clubs have their young British homegrown talent as many long term contracts over the last three months. I bet we top the lot

KeithMercer wrote:
Ignorance of the Watford rise to prominence continues all over.
The curb crawler Pleat was on TalkSport yesterday pontificating with Keys and Gray about every club in the Championship. When it came to the Horns all he could muster was "its a bit of a strange one whats going on at Watford !! " lets move on and talk about other teams whos players I have heard of before "
Great insightful stuff from the former scummer and his two sexist dinosaur chums.

Bring back Porky Parry, these two really do take themselves seriously. As for Pleat! I hope he's got his hormones under control. Horrid men, the lot

lutondown wrote:

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: Grapefruit.

Nuts There I bit! Gian

HA ha ha, I was so tempted, happy someone beat me to it!

Boosey wrote:

lutondown wrote:

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: Grapefruit.

Nuts There I bit! Gian

HA ha ha, I was so tempted, happy someone beat me to it!

Btw mate Elton speaks to Zola every week! I think you asked the question?

You have more will power than me!

lutondown wrote:

Boosey wrote:

lutondown wrote:

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: Grapefruit.

Nuts There I bit! Gian

HA ha ha, I was so tempted, happy someone beat me to it!

Btw mate Elton speaks to Zola every week! I think you asked the question?

You have more will power than me!

rinaldi, now there's a mystery, the one time I saw him play, I thought wow. Then Boofers never let him see day light again. Obviously didn't hoof it long enough!

lutondown wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Boosey wrote:

lutondown wrote:

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: Grapefruit.

Nuts There I bit! Gian

HA ha ha, I was so tempted, happy someone beat me to it!

Btw mate Elton speaks to Zola every week! I think you asked the question?

You have more will power than me!

rinaldi, now there's a mystery, the one time I saw him play, I thought wow. Then Boofers never let him see day light again. Obviously didn't hoof it long enough!

I think Rinaldi was made to look poor in training by Demba Ba!

Mangoputney wrote:

lutondown wrote:

lutondown wrote:

Boosey wrote:

lutondown wrote:

DouglasRinaldi the better Brazilian wrote: Grapefruit.

Nuts There I bit! Gian

HA ha ha, I was so tempted, happy someone beat me to it!

Btw mate Elton speaks to Zola every week! I think you asked the question?

You have more will power than me!

rinaldi, now there's a mystery, the one time I saw him play, I thought wow. Then Boofers never let him see day light again. Obviously didn't hoof it long enough!

I think Rinaldi was made to look poor in training by Demba Ba!

Ha ha! Spot on. He did pass up a few..Rinaldi, Ba, Pudil etc he did try signing Johnny Wilkinson, not realising football is played with a round ball

lutondown wrote:

KeithMercer wrote:
Ignorance of the Watford rise to prominence continues all over.
The curb crawler Pleat was on TalkSport yesterday pontificating with Keys and Gray about every club in the Championship. When it came to the Horns all he could muster was "its a bit of a strange one whats going on at Watford !! " lets move on and talk about other teams whos players I have heard of before "
Great insightful stuff from the former scummer and his two sexist dinosaur chums.

Bring back Porky Parry, these two really do take themselves seriously. As for Pleat! I hope he's got his hormones under control. Horrid men, the lot

Your Right LD used to love Porky Parry !
especially with Andy Townsend and they didnt have to just talk about Football the exact same stories that Brazil and Irani had been going on about for the past 4 hours and probably Durham the day before !
Oh well I suppose I do have a choice !
Anyone going up to Boro tomorrow have a good one and safe journey !!

KeithMercer wrote:

lutondown wrote:

KeithMercer wrote:
Ignorance of the Watford rise to prominence continues all over.
The curb crawler Pleat was on TalkSport yesterday pontificating with Keys and Gray about every club in the Championship. When it came to the Horns all he could muster was "its a bit of a strange one whats going on at Watford !! " lets move on and talk about other teams whos players I have heard of before "
Great insightful stuff from the former scummer and his two sexist dinosaur chums.

Bring back Porky Parry, these two really do take themselves seriously. As for Pleat! I hope he's got his hormones under control. Horrid men, the lot

Your Right LD used to love Porky Parry !
especially with Andy Townsend and they didnt have to just talk about Football the exact same stories that Brazil and Irani had been going on about for the past 4 hours and probably Durham the day before !
Oh well I suppose I do have a choice !
Anyone going up to Boro tomorrow have a good one and safe journey !!

Talking of ex-scummers.Paul Walsh is actually a big fan now and has tipped us for playoffs! I read that he admitted being naive about the players at the start but after seeing us play several times he soon realised that these foreign boys who he had never even heard of could actually play a bit. Fair play. But you are right about street - sorry pleat!

Wimbledonhorn wrote:
Really expect Deeney to sign after the loyalty the club has shown him.

You don't know the half of it!