Audio: Watford boss Gianfranco Zola praises Ian Holloway's tactics after Crystal Palace's second half fightback

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Gianfranco Zola admitted tonight’s 2-2 draw with Crystal Palace felt like a defeat and praised the tactics of opposing manager Ian Holloway.

Watford were impressive in the first half and led 2-0 at the break through goals by Almen Abdi and Nathaniel Chalobah.

But the Hornets struggled to get out of their half for large parts of the second period and were unable to retain possession.

When asked if the result felt like a defeat, Zola replied: “Of course. After the first half, we were not expecting anything like that in the second half.

“I think a lot of it comes from them; they really played well in the second half and caused a lot of problems.

“We probably didn’t have the same freshness in our legs [in the second half] to keep closing them down and push forward. It has been very costly because it ended up with us being outnumbered in midfield and that caused us a lot of problems.

“We didn’t manage to keep the ball as well in the second half and they started to find their rhythm and created problems.”

Zola explained: “We struggled because they changed their system and put three strikers up front. What he did was take a gamble and push their two wide full backs on to our midfield so they ended up with five players against our three midfielders.

“Because we didn’t get the quality balls into the strikers, we ended up being outnumbered in midfield and the two wide players – Daniel Pudil and Marco Cassetti – finished on our defensive line all the time. So we had five defending against three and had five against three in midfield.

“It created a lot of problems for us and we started losing possession - losing ball after ball - and then they got two goals. They were causing more and more problems. That was the reason [we struggled to keep possession]. Also the physical side played a part.

“They were certainly better and more alive in the second half.”

Watford failed to capitalise on their chance to climb into the automatic promotion places tonight – the second time in consecutive weeks.

But Zola reiterated: “There are still 15 games left and I don’t want to be second at this moment; I want to possibly be second at the end of the season.

“So I am not really thinking about the league position. We wanted to win the game but we didn’t manage to do that because they were really good.

“We need to study why that happened and how we can improve because this is going to be tight until the end that is for sure.

“The Championship is good and the teams around us are all really good. That is the only thing I am interested in; I am not thinking about being second right now. I am more focussed on our performances getting better.”

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11:43pm Fri 8 Feb 13

jalvin says...

i'll agree with that.
We should have buried them when we were on top though, instead of showboating. Still we didn't lose to our close rivals and we all would have taken the draw this morning.
Proper gutted though.

and what were those stupid flares all about!?
i'll agree with that. We should have buried them when we were on top though, instead of showboating. Still we didn't lose to our close rivals and we all would have taken the draw this morning. Proper gutted though. and what were those stupid flares all about!? jalvin
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12:04am Sat 9 Feb 13

jimbowfc says...

We waz robbed!

We should have a late penalty, it was a clear handball, how did the the officials miss it?

Apart from that though, we were lucky to hold on for a point in the end.
We waz robbed! We should have a late penalty, it was a clear handball, how did the the officials miss it? Apart from that though, we were lucky to hold on for a point in the end. jimbowfc
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12:31am Sat 9 Feb 13

Hornet sting says...

is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him Hornet sting
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12:50am Sat 9 Feb 13

JohnnyHornet says...

Far too many misplaced passes, over hit passes and there didn't seem to be much desire in the second half, in the end apart from the blatant missed penalty we did well to keep it at 2 - 2, 4 points in a season from any team is a good return
Far too many misplaced passes, over hit passes and there didn't seem to be much desire in the second half, in the end apart from the blatant missed penalty we did well to keep it at 2 - 2, 4 points in a season from any team is a good return JohnnyHornet
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5:38am Sat 9 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

JohnnyHornet wrote:
Far too many misplaced passes, over hit passes and there didn't seem to be much desire in the second half, in the end apart from the blatant missed penalty we did well to keep it at 2 - 2, 4 points in a season from any team is a good return
.....but drawing against the likes of Palace is fine if you're taking your opportunities against lower placed opposition, which we sometimes don't. Sorry, don't mean to sound negative but starting to get more than a little twitchy. COYH's
[quote][p][bold]JohnnyHornet[/bold] wrote: Far too many misplaced passes, over hit passes and there didn't seem to be much desire in the second half, in the end apart from the blatant missed penalty we did well to keep it at 2 - 2, 4 points in a season from any team is a good return[/p][/quote].....but drawing against the likes of Palace is fine if you're taking your opportunities against lower placed opposition, which we sometimes don't. Sorry, don't mean to sound negative but starting to get more than a little twitchy. COYH's SAHornet
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5:48am Sat 9 Feb 13

3Lions4Ever says...

First of all, GZ should play more Football Manager. There's shouts you can do during the game to combat that old "push the full backs up" routine.

Second, if you'd said to me a year ago that today we'd be equal points with 2nd automatic (even having played 2 games more) and one of the deepest squads in the division I'd want to know what you were smokin and where I could get it.

Enjoy a stress-free Saturday everyone and get some Harlequins shopping in. Playoffs are a certainty and automatic is at worst 50/50.

Come on you 'Orns
First of all, GZ should play more Football Manager. There's shouts you can do during the game to combat that old "push the full backs up" routine. Second, if you'd said to me a year ago that today we'd be equal points with 2nd automatic (even having played 2 games more) and one of the deepest squads in the division I'd want to know what you were smokin and where I could get it. Enjoy a stress-free Saturday everyone and get some Harlequins shopping in. Playoffs are a certainty and automatic is at worst 50/50. Come on you 'Orns 3Lions4Ever
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6:51am Sat 9 Feb 13

mattymashup says...

I wish there was a button where I could like all that Zola had said. He has hit the nail on the head and all the comments from the fans are irrelevant. We drew one game because of a change in tactics, Zola will work out a way to play against that system. People stop going on about vydra, he missed chance after chance, lacked sharpness, looked tired...and was not the player we expect. Unhappy fessi was so awful and we have to sell Hogg in the summer, better players out there!
I wish there was a button where I could like all that Zola had said. He has hit the nail on the head and all the comments from the fans are irrelevant. We drew one game because of a change in tactics, Zola will work out a way to play against that system. People stop going on about vydra, he missed chance after chance, lacked sharpness, looked tired...and was not the player we expect. Unhappy fessi was so awful and we have to sell Hogg in the summer, better players out there! mattymashup
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7:11am Sat 9 Feb 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

Hornet sting wrote:
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet sting[/bold] wrote: is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him[/p][/quote]Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away. The BestTrip2011
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7:14am Sat 9 Feb 13

corbindallas says...

Did I not like that! Thrown away a 2 goal lead, we have no 2nd option and clearly we rely soley on key players to make a difference and when they are not on the ball we look poor. Vydra and Deeney were on different wave lenghts, Vydra looked knackered despite all eforts to rest him after the Turkey match, not sure why Deeney looked so poor but worse still what was FF doing he was running around like a headless chicken and gave away every ball, also have to say Almunia was hot a cold and at one point really wondered if he had placed a bet on Palarse with some of his attempts to save shots being very poor, he could have grabbed that ball leading to their first goal, in fact he put a hand on the ball then let go, what was that all about, not helped by Kevin Phillips taking him out thus impeding him which the ref thought was fair? Zola was spot on about one thing it does feel like a defeat, and fair play to Holloway his team came out to play second half Watford clearly didn't, Gino was watching and clearly by the tv replay shows he was not happy with the sub of Vydra, he has the power to do something about it because we clearly need backup even Chris would have been a better option than FF rather than letting him go.
Did I not like that! Thrown away a 2 goal lead, we have no 2nd option and clearly we rely soley on key players to make a difference and when they are not on the ball we look poor. Vydra and Deeney were on different wave lenghts, Vydra looked knackered despite all eforts to rest him after the Turkey match, not sure why Deeney looked so poor but worse still what was FF doing he was running around like a headless chicken and gave away every ball, also have to say Almunia was hot a cold and at one point really wondered if he had placed a bet on Palarse with some of his attempts to save shots being very poor, he could have grabbed that ball leading to their first goal, in fact he put a hand on the ball then let go, what was that all about, not helped by Kevin Phillips taking him out thus impeding him which the ref thought was fair? Zola was spot on about one thing it does feel like a defeat, and fair play to Holloway his team came out to play second half Watford clearly didn't, Gino was watching and clearly by the tv replay shows he was not happy with the sub of Vydra, he has the power to do something about it because we clearly need backup even Chris would have been a better option than FF rather than letting him go. corbindallas
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7:36am Sat 9 Feb 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

corbindallas wrote:
Did I not like that! Thrown away a 2 goal lead, we have no 2nd option and clearly we rely soley on key players to make a difference and when they are not on the ball we look poor. Vydra and Deeney were on different wave lenghts, Vydra looked knackered despite all eforts to rest him after the Turkey match, not sure why Deeney looked so poor but worse still what was FF doing he was running around like a headless chicken and gave away every ball, also have to say Almunia was hot a cold and at one point really wondered if he had placed a bet on Palarse with some of his attempts to save shots being very poor, he could have grabbed that ball leading to their first goal, in fact he put a hand on the ball then let go, what was that all about, not helped by Kevin Phillips taking him out thus impeding him which the ref thought was fair? Zola was spot on about one thing it does feel like a defeat, and fair play to Holloway his team came out to play second half Watford clearly didn't, Gino was watching and clearly by the tv replay shows he was not happy with the sub of Vydra, he has the power to do something about it because we clearly need backup even Chris would have been a better option than FF rather than letting him go.
Now you're just being silly. Iwelumo...really? I mean..seriously? It's just one game. Vydra was jaded and there was a lot of expectation on him...private jet and all. Holloway got it right, Zola didn't. Hats off to him. We will learn from it and we still got a point and went third!
[quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: Did I not like that! Thrown away a 2 goal lead, we have no 2nd option and clearly we rely soley on key players to make a difference and when they are not on the ball we look poor. Vydra and Deeney were on different wave lenghts, Vydra looked knackered despite all eforts to rest him after the Turkey match, not sure why Deeney looked so poor but worse still what was FF doing he was running around like a headless chicken and gave away every ball, also have to say Almunia was hot a cold and at one point really wondered if he had placed a bet on Palarse with some of his attempts to save shots being very poor, he could have grabbed that ball leading to their first goal, in fact he put a hand on the ball then let go, what was that all about, not helped by Kevin Phillips taking him out thus impeding him which the ref thought was fair? Zola was spot on about one thing it does feel like a defeat, and fair play to Holloway his team came out to play second half Watford clearly didn't, Gino was watching and clearly by the tv replay shows he was not happy with the sub of Vydra, he has the power to do something about it because we clearly need backup even Chris would have been a better option than FF rather than letting him go.[/p][/quote]Now you're just being silly. Iwelumo...really? I mean..seriously? It's just one game. Vydra was jaded and there was a lot of expectation on him...private jet and all. Holloway got it right, Zola didn't. Hats off to him. We will learn from it and we still got a point and went third! The BestTrip2011
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8:12am Sat 9 Feb 13

corbindallas says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
corbindallas wrote:
Did I not like that! Thrown away a 2 goal lead, we have no 2nd option and clearly we rely soley on key players to make a difference and when they are not on the ball we look poor. Vydra and Deeney were on different wave lenghts, Vydra looked knackered despite all eforts to rest him after the Turkey match, not sure why Deeney looked so poor but worse still what was FF doing he was running around like a headless chicken and gave away every ball, also have to say Almunia was hot a cold and at one point really wondered if he had placed a bet on Palarse with some of his attempts to save shots being very poor, he could have grabbed that ball leading to their first goal, in fact he put a hand on the ball then let go, what was that all about, not helped by Kevin Phillips taking him out thus impeding him which the ref thought was fair? Zola was spot on about one thing it does feel like a defeat, and fair play to Holloway his team came out to play second half Watford clearly didn't, Gino was watching and clearly by the tv replay shows he was not happy with the sub of Vydra, he has the power to do something about it because we clearly need backup even Chris would have been a better option than FF rather than letting him go.
Now you're just being silly. Iwelumo...really? I mean..seriously? It's just one game. Vydra was jaded and there was a lot of expectation on him...private jet and all. Holloway got it right, Zola didn't. Hats off to him. We will learn from it and we still got a point and went third!
No really I am being serious, loofing balls forward to their defence to return back is not football it is asking for trouble, having a big target man on the pitch like Chris would have given their defence something to worry about but no we had little FF on instead and they clearly played through him without a care! I agree it's not the end but it is worrying we don't seem to have any back up plan in the system for holding a game, even though clearly the gaffer has identified the problem he has no players to address the issue at least with Big Chris on the pitch it gives us a option that we used well last season and the start of this season, especially holding onto a lead!!
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: Did I not like that! Thrown away a 2 goal lead, we have no 2nd option and clearly we rely soley on key players to make a difference and when they are not on the ball we look poor. Vydra and Deeney were on different wave lenghts, Vydra looked knackered despite all eforts to rest him after the Turkey match, not sure why Deeney looked so poor but worse still what was FF doing he was running around like a headless chicken and gave away every ball, also have to say Almunia was hot a cold and at one point really wondered if he had placed a bet on Palarse with some of his attempts to save shots being very poor, he could have grabbed that ball leading to their first goal, in fact he put a hand on the ball then let go, what was that all about, not helped by Kevin Phillips taking him out thus impeding him which the ref thought was fair? Zola was spot on about one thing it does feel like a defeat, and fair play to Holloway his team came out to play second half Watford clearly didn't, Gino was watching and clearly by the tv replay shows he was not happy with the sub of Vydra, he has the power to do something about it because we clearly need backup even Chris would have been a better option than FF rather than letting him go.[/p][/quote]Now you're just being silly. Iwelumo...really? I mean..seriously? It's just one game. Vydra was jaded and there was a lot of expectation on him...private jet and all. Holloway got it right, Zola didn't. Hats off to him. We will learn from it and we still got a point and went third![/p][/quote]No really I am being serious, loofing balls forward to their defence to return back is not football it is asking for trouble, having a big target man on the pitch like Chris would have given their defence something to worry about but no we had little FF on instead and they clearly played through him without a care! I agree it's not the end but it is worrying we don't seem to have any back up plan in the system for holding a game, even though clearly the gaffer has identified the problem he has no players to address the issue at least with Big Chris on the pitch it gives us a option that we used well last season and the start of this season, especially holding onto a lead!! corbindallas
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8:22am Sat 9 Feb 13

Stoney77 says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Hornet sting wrote:
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.
And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out .
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet sting[/bold] wrote: is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him[/p][/quote]Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.[/p][/quote]And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out . Stoney77
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8:36am Sat 9 Feb 13

SAHornet says...

Stoney77 wrote:
The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Hornet sting wrote:
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.
And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out .
Agree and disagree....yes, we need much more of a vocal presence at home. Yes, Vydra wasn't strong last night but FF was woeful from the moment he entered the fray. Yes, best football ever seen for first 30 minutes but then, no, totally abject after that and that 2nd half, I could barely believe it was the same team in yellow. Palace had the belief last night and we allowed them right back in the game. We took a point but just as important is, did GZ learn anything about how to deal with dogged opposition that come back at us when we are a couple of goals up????
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet sting[/bold] wrote: is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him[/p][/quote]Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.[/p][/quote]And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out .[/p][/quote]Agree and disagree....yes, we need much more of a vocal presence at home. Yes, Vydra wasn't strong last night but FF was woeful from the moment he entered the fray. Yes, best football ever seen for first 30 minutes but then, no, totally abject after that and that 2nd half, I could barely believe it was the same team in yellow. Palace had the belief last night and we allowed them right back in the game. We took a point but just as important is, did GZ learn anything about how to deal with dogged opposition that come back at us when we are a couple of goals up???? SAHornet
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8:49am Sat 9 Feb 13

Stoney77 says...

SAHornet wrote:
Stoney77 wrote:
The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Hornet sting wrote:
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.
And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out .
Agree and disagree....yes, we need much more of a vocal presence at home. Yes, Vydra wasn't strong last night but FF was woeful from the moment he entered the fray. Yes, best football ever seen for first 30 minutes but then, no, totally abject after that and that 2nd half, I could barely believe it was the same team in yellow. Palace had the belief last night and we allowed them right back in the game. We took a point but just as important is, did GZ learn anything about how to deal with dogged opposition that come back at us when we are a couple of goals up????
Agree FF was woeful. We all know he is better than that. Although To be fair he created a goal that was disallowed for dubious decision. I am sure GFZ has learnt from last night but thus dorsnt mean we will never surrender a lead again. that scoreline happens all of the time. Furthermore I'm sure he learns every game. He, and The team, are not the finished article and are still a work in progress. A young team, getting better and better. I, for one, am just going to enjoy the ride and enjoy the football and revel in the fact we are at the top of the league instead if the bottom and not worried about financial stability.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet sting[/bold] wrote: is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him[/p][/quote]Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.[/p][/quote]And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out .[/p][/quote]Agree and disagree....yes, we need much more of a vocal presence at home. Yes, Vydra wasn't strong last night but FF was woeful from the moment he entered the fray. Yes, best football ever seen for first 30 minutes but then, no, totally abject after that and that 2nd half, I could barely believe it was the same team in yellow. Palace had the belief last night and we allowed them right back in the game. We took a point but just as important is, did GZ learn anything about how to deal with dogged opposition that come back at us when we are a couple of goals up????[/p][/quote]Agree FF was woeful. We all know he is better than that. Although To be fair he created a goal that was disallowed for dubious decision. I am sure GFZ has learnt from last night but thus dorsnt mean we will never surrender a lead again. that scoreline happens all of the time. Furthermore I'm sure he learns every game. He, and The team, are not the finished article and are still a work in progress. A young team, getting better and better. I, for one, am just going to enjoy the ride and enjoy the football and revel in the fact we are at the top of the league instead if the bottom and not worried about financial stability. Stoney77
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8:50am Sat 9 Feb 13

jalvin says...

Stoney77 wrote:
The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Hornet sting wrote:
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.
And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out .
Spot on stoney, there's not one genuine watford fan out there that truly believed we had a chance of promotion before this season started. Now people are demanding it, it's crazy how short peoples memories are. Remember how delighted we all were with 11th bleeding place last year!
Personally i'd rather go up via the playoffs anyway, much more fun, But realistically even if we lost in the playoffs that would still be a massive achievement considering the huge changes at the club.

I was there last night, you can't blame hogg as he broke up loads of their moves, yeah some of his passes were a bit flakey, but then so were cassettis. and vydra was clearly shattered, if anything he should have gone off earlier, FF tried to make an impact but palarse had already gained the momentum.
We didn't lose to one of our closest rivals, so that's a good result in the end.


Still proper miffed though...
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet sting[/bold] wrote: is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him[/p][/quote]Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.[/p][/quote]And here we have the reason why our fans are quiet. You don't like the chant...????Sweet Jesus, would you prefer a few hymns, or a bit of poetry?. Just sing it, whatever it is. Also, to those people wondering why GFZ took Vydra off, were you at the game? He just was not on song, and looked shattered. Over-playing causes injuries. If he had stayed on and got injured or if he had stayed on and missed another couple of chances and then we had gone on to lose, the same people questioning Zola for taking him off last night would have been lambasting him for leaving him on when he was clearly tired and heavy legged and better off subbed. Fickle fans. Do my head in. We are 3rd in the league! why are people taking our success for granted, this is not a one year plan! Enjoy the good football. THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE EVER SEEN, THE BEST TEAM WE HAVE SEEN and chill out .[/p][/quote]Spot on stoney, there's not one genuine watford fan out there that truly believed we had a chance of promotion before this season started. Now people are demanding it, it's crazy how short peoples memories are. Remember how delighted we all were with 11th bleeding place last year! Personally i'd rather go up via the playoffs anyway, much more fun, But realistically even if we lost in the playoffs that would still be a massive achievement considering the huge changes at the club. I was there last night, you can't blame hogg as he broke up loads of their moves, yeah some of his passes were a bit flakey, but then so were cassettis. and vydra was clearly shattered, if anything he should have gone off earlier, FF tried to make an impact but palarse had already gained the momentum. We didn't lose to one of our closest rivals, so that's a good result in the end. Still proper miffed though... jalvin
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8:57am Sat 9 Feb 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

When you support a team you are happy with a win however unfair it is, of course. But a draw was fair all the same and I was praying for the final whistle. I wouldn't have taken Vydra off because, despite his so called tiredness, he looked like the only chance we had of scoring in the second half.

At the end of the day, we drew against another team in the play off positions. We're still there ourselves - in fact THIRD - and we will still be third tonight if Brighton beat Hull. Think back to November! 15 games to go as well.
When you support a team you are happy with a win however unfair it is, of course. But a draw was fair all the same and I was praying for the final whistle. I wouldn't have taken Vydra off because, despite his so called tiredness, he looked like the only chance we had of scoring in the second half. At the end of the day, we drew against another team in the play off positions. We're still there ourselves - in fact THIRD - and we will still be third tonight if Brighton beat Hull. Think back to November! 15 games to go as well. Eastsussexhornet
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9:32am Sat 9 Feb 13

endean2 says...

sorry, but what the hell did you expect
in the second half then?

there is a large amount of naivety in that comment that realy concerns me.

Kings to Paupers in ten minutes.
oh well onwards and hopefully upwards.
sorry, but what the hell did you expect in the second half then? there is a large amount of naivety in that comment that realy concerns me. Kings to Paupers in ten minutes. oh well onwards and hopefully upwards. endean2
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9:42am Sat 9 Feb 13

AngelHornet says...

The main point now is how we bounce back and how Zola finds tactics and the right playersbination to combat teams that pressure us, and close us down.
The main point now is how we bounce back and how Zola finds tactics and the right playersbination to combat teams that pressure us, and close us down. AngelHornet
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9:51am Sat 9 Feb 13

Big Cliff was King says...

Everybody stop moaning !
It was a point gained against a good team and it helps to consolidate our position in the the top 6. We would not want to go up by automatic promotion anyway. It's not the Watford way. Remember that we are the masters of the playoffs !
And the Rookery did make a good noise last night, it was just that the tv microphones were at the ar*e end.
Everybody stop moaning ! It was a point gained against a good team and it helps to consolidate our position in the the top 6. We would not want to go up by automatic promotion anyway. It's not the Watford way. Remember that we are the masters of the playoffs ! And the Rookery did make a good noise last night, it was just that the tv microphones were at the ar*e end. Big Cliff was King
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9:56am Sat 9 Feb 13

Travelling Hornet says...

Watford fans have always been the same a d always will be in as much we need the team to play well and score before we start to make some noise, I thought the first half we had a lot of singing and made some noise , but alas seco d half the team and hence the fans were overshadowed completely .
As for the team I couldn't believe Battocchio was dropped in favour of Hogg , yes he did win some balls In tackles but only after he lost possession . Don't know how Chalobah was MoM , thought he showed his immaturity in second half ( perhaps was carrying an injury) we really needed an expierenced ball playing midfielder to help Abdi( who was outnumbered). Oh for a Gattutso !
The third goal as always when 2up is the most important !
That's football , but what a great season .
Oh thought it bad that we did t have the right to reply to that little c@nt Holloway on TV .
Who felt like punching their TV?
Watford fans have always been the same a d always will be in as much we need the team to play well and score before we start to make some noise, I thought the first half we had a lot of singing and made some noise , but alas seco d half the team and hence the fans were overshadowed completely . As for the team I couldn't believe Battocchio was dropped in favour of Hogg , yes he did win some balls In tackles but only after he lost possession . Don't know how Chalobah was MoM , thought he showed his immaturity in second half ( perhaps was carrying an injury) we really needed an expierenced ball playing midfielder to help Abdi( who was outnumbered). Oh for a Gattutso ! The third goal as always when 2up is the most important ! That's football , but what a great season . Oh thought it bad that we did t have the right to reply to that little c@nt Holloway on TV . Who felt like punching their TV? Travelling Hornet
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9:59am Sat 9 Feb 13

rogeruk says...

What is going on here? Why the criticism? Zola has done a magnificent job without resorting to the bitterness shown by Holloway who has resorted to the ‘green eyed monster’ on top of that Zola has the class to compliment him. Additionally it appears we have got fantastic owners to boot!

First 20 minutes Watford were class, had Vydra put the header in it would have been all over, Palace would not have come back, Palace players were all over the place . Had our players not been away travelling all over the world then last night would have been three points in the bag.

Zola would have good reason to gripe about playing stupid friendly internationals in the middle of winter and during a tough season, Fergie hates it and it's easy to see why.

Holloway said Saha played his best game all season, second half he changed his tactics used three strikers and Palace players raised their game similar to a cup tie situation against a better team. Oldham against Liverpool comes to mind.

In the second half our players were knackered they were sapped of energy, having played Bolton Saturday, foreign travel with games on Tuesdays and Wednesday plus an important game on Friday, you don’t need a physics degree to work that one out. Neither had the team trained together I believe this affected Deeny’s partnership with Vydra. Not dissimilar to the Bristol loss maybe even worse.

FF and Geijo are not getting game time and it shows, whereas Deeny and Vydra are playing every game obviously their physical and mental state is more highly tuned than the other two. It’s a problem but Zola is trying to address it.

Zola’s way is producing eye watering football with the addition of pace, in those games when it comes together other teams can’t live with us. Zola knows this and is trying to work out a famous Plan ‘B’ taking into account his players' tiredness and squad rotation. This is why Zola is the Head Coach, the WFC footballing brain and we are fans with our opinions.

Forza Watford
What is going on here? Why the criticism? Zola has done a magnificent job without resorting to the bitterness shown by Holloway who has resorted to the ‘green eyed monster’ on top of that Zola has the class to compliment him. Additionally it appears we have got fantastic owners to boot! First 20 minutes Watford were class, had Vydra put the header in it would have been all over, Palace would not have come back, Palace players were all over the place . Had our players not been away travelling all over the world then last night would have been three points in the bag. Zola would have good reason to gripe about playing stupid friendly internationals in the middle of winter and during a tough season, Fergie hates it and it's easy to see why. Holloway said Saha played his best game all season, second half he changed his tactics used three strikers and Palace players raised their game similar to a cup tie situation against a better team. Oldham against Liverpool comes to mind. In the second half our players were knackered they were sapped of energy, having played Bolton Saturday, foreign travel with games on Tuesdays and Wednesday plus an important game on Friday, you don’t need a physics degree to work that one out. Neither had the team trained together I believe this affected Deeny’s partnership with Vydra. Not dissimilar to the Bristol loss maybe even worse. FF and Geijo are not getting game time and it shows, whereas Deeny and Vydra are playing every game obviously their physical and mental state is more highly tuned than the other two. It’s a problem but Zola is trying to address it. Zola’s way is producing eye watering football with the addition of pace, in those games when it comes together other teams can’t live with us. Zola knows this and is trying to work out a famous Plan ‘B’ taking into account his players' tiredness and squad rotation. This is why Zola is the Head Coach, the WFC footballing brain and we are fans with our opinions. Forza Watford rogeruk
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10:01am Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
When you support a team you are happy with a win however unfair it is, of course. But a draw was fair all the same and I was praying for the final whistle. I wouldn't have taken Vydra off because, despite his so called tiredness, he looked like the only chance we had of scoring in the second half.

At the end of the day, we drew against another team in the play off positions. We're still there ourselves - in fact THIRD - and we will still be third tonight if Brighton beat Hull. Think back to November! 15 games to go as well.
I agree...funny that!
[quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: When you support a team you are happy with a win however unfair it is, of course. But a draw was fair all the same and I was praying for the final whistle. I wouldn't have taken Vydra off because, despite his so called tiredness, he looked like the only chance we had of scoring in the second half. At the end of the day, we drew against another team in the play off positions. We're still there ourselves - in fact THIRD - and we will still be third tonight if Brighton beat Hull. Think back to November! 15 games to go as well.[/p][/quote]I agree...funny that! lutondown
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10:06am Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Hornet sting wrote:
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.
Yep, how great that must be to be reminded that your vertically challenged! And yes our home support is pants.
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet sting[/bold] wrote: is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him[/p][/quote]Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.[/p][/quote]Yep, how great that must be to be reminded that your vertically challenged! And yes our home support is pants. lutondown
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10:18am Sat 9 Feb 13

llloydwithathirdl says...

Thought we were excellent first half, Palace were superb second. Vydra looked pooped, Holloway is a muppet.
Thought we were excellent first half, Palace were superb second. Vydra looked pooped, Holloway is a muppet. llloydwithathirdl
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10:20am Sat 9 Feb 13

buckshornet says...

yes it's disappointing but before the game everyone would have taken a draw.i thought hoban was superb and cannot understand whyeustace wasn't brought on early 2nd half to stem the palace attacks.
yes it's disappointing but before the game everyone would have taken a draw.i thought hoban was superb and cannot understand whyeustace wasn't brought on early 2nd half to stem the palace attacks. buckshornet
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10:38am Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

llloydwithathirdl wrote:
Thought we were excellent first half, Palace were superb second. Vydra looked pooped, Holloway is a muppet.
Nicely Nutshelled
[quote][p][bold]llloydwithathirdl[/bold] wrote: Thought we were excellent first half, Palace were superb second. Vydra looked pooped, Holloway is a muppet.[/p][/quote]Nicely Nutshelled lutondown
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10:48am Sat 9 Feb 13

tommy gunn says...

If, as the manager suggests that, Cassetti and Pudil were drawn into more defensive positions they didn't do a very good job did they.For the second goal to allow Phillips to run 20 yards without being picked up was criminal,too much ball watching.Apart from the first 30 minutes we were poor.I wonder what John Eustace was thinking sitting on the bench not used when a bit of steel was badly needed.The naivety was worrying.Palace are a good side and if we meet in the play offs it will be difficult, if this game is anything to go by.Next time we will be prepared.
If, as the manager suggests that, Cassetti and Pudil were drawn into more defensive positions they didn't do a very good job did they.For the second goal to allow Phillips to run 20 yards without being picked up was criminal,too much ball watching.Apart from the first 30 minutes we were poor.I wonder what John Eustace was thinking sitting on the bench not used when a bit of steel was badly needed.The naivety was worrying.Palace are a good side and if we meet in the play offs it will be difficult, if this game is anything to go by.Next time we will be prepared. tommy gunn
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11:48am Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

tommy gunn wrote:
If, as the manager suggests that, Cassetti and Pudil were drawn into more defensive positions they didn't do a very good job did they.For the second goal to allow Phillips to run 20 yards without being picked up was criminal,too much ball watching.Apart from the first 30 minutes we were poor.I wonder what John Eustace was thinking sitting on the bench not used when a bit of steel was badly needed.The naivety was worrying.Palace are a good side and if we meet in the play offs it will be difficult, if this game is anything to go by.Next time we will be prepared.
Think when we met them in last play offs they had beaten us quite easily in league games, so last night counts for nothing. We are better than that second half performance
[quote][p][bold]tommy gunn[/bold] wrote: If, as the manager suggests that, Cassetti and Pudil were drawn into more defensive positions they didn't do a very good job did they.For the second goal to allow Phillips to run 20 yards without being picked up was criminal,too much ball watching.Apart from the first 30 minutes we were poor.I wonder what John Eustace was thinking sitting on the bench not used when a bit of steel was badly needed.The naivety was worrying.Palace are a good side and if we meet in the play offs it will be difficult, if this game is anything to go by.Next time we will be prepared.[/p][/quote]Think when we met them in last play offs they had beaten us quite easily in league games, so last night counts for nothing. We are better than that second half performance lutondown
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11:56am Sat 9 Feb 13

Oracledave says...

A couple of thoughts.

Pudil picked up his ninth booking. One more (inevitable) will see a two match ban. the need for left sided alternatives is critical (recognised as recorded by the two bids in the transfer window). Also better to have a more offensively minded player available (seems that Anya and Bia are not considered good enough). Any loans available Gino ?

Also a concern about aerial vulnerability. Yes Phillips cleverly blocked Almunia for the first goal but the whole incident came about from an unchallenged header from a corner.
More work required on the training ground I think !
A couple of thoughts. Pudil picked up his ninth booking. One more (inevitable) will see a two match ban. the need for left sided alternatives is critical (recognised as recorded by the two bids in the transfer window). Also better to have a more offensively minded player available (seems that Anya and Bia are not considered good enough). Any loans available Gino ? Also a concern about aerial vulnerability. Yes Phillips cleverly blocked Almunia for the first goal but the whole incident came about from an unchallenged header from a corner. More work required on the training ground I think ! Oracledave
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1:20pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Dr Johnny Fever says...

Go on shoot me down. yes, I know we are 3rd, doing better than last year etc, etc. But if Vydra gets injured who have we got to get the goals to keep us in the play off spot? TD, I guess will get the odd one or two, FF, don't think so on last nights showing, when Vydra came off last night we may as well have taken TD off and put two full backs on. Did we have a shot at goal second half, how many times did we get out of our half, second half, really poor last night, lucky to get a point and it looked like Palace were the home team the way they played. just really really p*ssed about last night, like everyone else, I guess.
Go on shoot me down. yes, I know we are 3rd, doing better than last year etc, etc. But if Vydra gets injured who have we got to get the goals to keep us in the play off spot? TD, I guess will get the odd one or two, FF, don't think so on last nights showing, when Vydra came off last night we may as well have taken TD off and put two full backs on. Did we have a shot at goal second half, how many times did we get out of our half, second half, really poor last night, lucky to get a point and it looked like Palace were the home team the way they played. just really really p*ssed about last night, like everyone else, I guess. Dr Johnny Fever
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1:26pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

Dr Johnny Fever wrote:
Go on shoot me down. yes, I know we are 3rd, doing better than last year etc, etc. But if Vydra gets injured who have we got to get the goals to keep us in the play off spot? TD, I guess will get the odd one or two, FF, don't think so on last nights showing, when Vydra came off last night we may as well have taken TD off and put two full backs on. Did we have a shot at goal second half, how many times did we get out of our half, second half, really poor last night, lucky to get a point and it looked like Palace were the home team the way they played. just really really p*ssed about last night, like everyone else, I guess.
Geijo! Would have brought him on last night, possibly for Troy. Fessi, Vydra and Geijo Wd have fizzed it up. IMO
[quote][p][bold]Dr Johnny Fever[/bold] wrote: Go on shoot me down. yes, I know we are 3rd, doing better than last year etc, etc. But if Vydra gets injured who have we got to get the goals to keep us in the play off spot? TD, I guess will get the odd one or two, FF, don't think so on last nights showing, when Vydra came off last night we may as well have taken TD off and put two full backs on. Did we have a shot at goal second half, how many times did we get out of our half, second half, really poor last night, lucky to get a point and it looked like Palace were the home team the way they played. just really really p*ssed about last night, like everyone else, I guess.[/p][/quote]Geijo! Would have brought him on last night, possibly for Troy. Fessi, Vydra and Geijo Wd have fizzed it up. IMO lutondown
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4:32pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Gazzathehorn says...

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Hornet sting wrote:
is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off.
Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him.
Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them.
I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him
Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.
Can we not do something with 'WFC' in place of the 5' 3" ?
I'll leave that one out there for the poets amongst us to produce a master-piece. Answers on a post card to the usual address please....
[quote][p][bold]The BestTrip2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet sting[/bold] wrote: is Zola really only 5ft 3 im sure hes taller i reckon he gets annoyed at this chant so does things to get back at us like Charlton and Bristol City. The man is a legend and im sure he will become so at watford .... but why take vydra off ?? Because hes tired ? I bet if you asked him he wouldnt have come off. Maybe a sensible decision because hes not fireing on all cylinders but physiologically worse decision ever.Palace immediately boosted ....our players immediately deflated and fans being fans immediately silent and omg hes taken vydra off we've had it now then as the first palace goal goes in saying told u so ....There fans livend up so did there players our players and fans did the opposite....we were a little worried then off comes vydra our hero. Why ? coz hes tired bless him. Theres more to a game of football than just tactics. bristol City must have been rareing to go because of the disrespect shown to them ...lets play our reserves against them. I like Zola but he has a very worrying side to him[/p][/quote]Different websites have him at different heights: either 5'4 or 5'6. The chant irritates me too, however at least it's one that the majority of our fans will sing! Our support is so embarrassing at home - so much better away.[/p][/quote]Can we not do something with 'WFC' in place of the 5' 3" ? I'll leave that one out there for the poets amongst us to produce a master-piece. Answers on a post card to the usual address please.... Gazzathehorn
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5:12pm Sat 9 Feb 13

paultheshrink says...

Doesn't feel so much like a defeat following Leicesters' defeat at Peterborough.
Doesn't feel so much like a defeat following Leicesters' defeat at Peterborough. paultheshrink
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5:33pm Sat 9 Feb 13

jasonwatford says...

He manages Watford FC
He comes from Italy
Gianfanco.........oo
ooo Gianfranco....
He manages Watford FC He comes from Italy Gianfanco.........oo ooo Gianfranco.... jasonwatford
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5:37pm Sat 9 Feb 13

lutondown says...

jasonwatford wrote:
He manages Watford FC
He comes from Italy
Gianfanco.........oo

ooo Gianfranco....
Poor poetry as well as being a tight wad...;-)
[quote][p][bold]jasonwatford[/bold] wrote: He manages Watford FC He comes from Italy Gianfanco.........oo ooo Gianfranco....[/p][/quote]Poor poetry as well as being a tight wad...;-) lutondown
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9:08pm Sat 9 Feb 13

WJames says...

Big shame we didn't win last night but it's great to look at the league and see we are the top scorers. Bar the obvious frustration at letting it slip against Palace, the main thing that annoyed me was the total lack of support for the team when it got tense. At 2-0 up the crowd went completely silent which was pathetic. We had threatened to have a really good atmosphere at the Vic for the first time in a long time but once again, the place falls silent. Palace fans singing all match, Watford support terrible again. 2 guys close to me in the Upper Rous were asked to keep it down by two other supporters and then a steward (they weren't swearing or being aggressive) which summed up why the majority of my friends from other clubs don't consider our fans to be worth their salt or passionate about their team. Too many non-supporter families there nowadays. Poor.
Big shame we didn't win last night but it's great to look at the league and see we are the top scorers. Bar the obvious frustration at letting it slip against Palace, the main thing that annoyed me was the total lack of support for the team when it got tense. At 2-0 up the crowd went completely silent which was pathetic. We had threatened to have a really good atmosphere at the Vic for the first time in a long time but once again, the place falls silent. Palace fans singing all match, Watford support terrible again. 2 guys close to me in the Upper Rous were asked to keep it down by two other supporters and then a steward (they weren't swearing or being aggressive) which summed up why the majority of my friends from other clubs don't consider our fans to be worth their salt or passionate about their team. Too many non-supporter families there nowadays. Poor. WJames
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2:17am Sun 10 Feb 13

watford9140 says...

I thought we were guna win 5-6 nil in the first 25 mins. But second half, gave the ball away too much. knew the 2 goals were coming. As soon as Kevin Phillips came on it's was always going to be him that scored one. It's the law that people score against their old clubs. Thought abdi was quality thou. And chalobahs leg looked like it almost snapped with that challenge!
I thought we were guna win 5-6 nil in the first 25 mins. But second half, gave the ball away too much. knew the 2 goals were coming. As soon as Kevin Phillips came on it's was always going to be him that scored one. It's the law that people score against their old clubs. Thought abdi was quality thou. And chalobahs leg looked like it almost snapped with that challenge! watford9140
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7:36am Sun 10 Feb 13

lutondown says...

WJames wrote:
Big shame we didn't win last night but it's great to look at the league and see we are the top scorers. Bar the obvious frustration at letting it slip against Palace, the main thing that annoyed me was the total lack of support for the team when it got tense. At 2-0 up the crowd went completely silent which was pathetic. We had threatened to have a really good atmosphere at the Vic for the first time in a long time but once again, the place falls silent. Palace fans singing all match, Watford support terrible again. 2 guys close to me in the Upper Rous were asked to keep it down by two other supporters and then a steward (they weren't swearing or being aggressive) which summed up why the majority of my friends from other clubs don't consider our fans to be worth their salt or passionate about their team. Too many non-supporter families there nowadays. Poor.
So correct and it's time those of us who like to get behind our team reclaim the ground. Don't let the librarians hush you
[quote][p][bold]WJames[/bold] wrote: Big shame we didn't win last night but it's great to look at the league and see we are the top scorers. Bar the obvious frustration at letting it slip against Palace, the main thing that annoyed me was the total lack of support for the team when it got tense. At 2-0 up the crowd went completely silent which was pathetic. We had threatened to have a really good atmosphere at the Vic for the first time in a long time but once again, the place falls silent. Palace fans singing all match, Watford support terrible again. 2 guys close to me in the Upper Rous were asked to keep it down by two other supporters and then a steward (they weren't swearing or being aggressive) which summed up why the majority of my friends from other clubs don't consider our fans to be worth their salt or passionate about their team. Too many non-supporter families there nowadays. Poor.[/p][/quote]So correct and it's time those of us who like to get behind our team reclaim the ground. Don't let the librarians hush you lutondown
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