Watford want Tottenham Hotspur midfielder and England Under-21 international Tom Carroll on loan

Watford Observer: Tom Carroll scored for England Under-21s on Tuesday night. Picture: Action Images Tom Carroll scored for England Under-21s on Tuesday night. Picture: Action Images

The Hornets are trying to sign Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Tom Carroll on loan, the Watford Observer understands.

Carroll grew up in Leavesden, attended Parmiter’s School in Garston and honed his skills playing football at Hill Farm Close park.

We understand Watford have planned to sign a young midfielder from a Premier League club all summer and have decided to target the Spurs youngster.

Carroll has made 21 appearances for Tottenham since his Spurs debut in the Europa League two years ago, 11 of which were from the substitutes bench.

The 21-year-old’s professional debut came on loan at Leyton Orient where he made 14 appearances during the second half of the 2010/11 campaign.

The following season, he made six starts for Spurs in the Europa League and League Cup and had a substitute outing in the FA Cup before he featured 12 times on loan at Derby County.

He spent the whole of last season at White Hart Lane and made 14 appearances in all competitions, although all seven of his Premier League outings were from the bench.

Carroll joined Spurs’ Academy in 2008 and was given his first professional contract two years later.

He captained Parmiter’s football team to district and county titles and he also represented Hertfordshire.

Tottenham describe him as “a player who always looks for possession and rarely gives the ball away”.

Carroll has made two appearances for England Under-21s and scored after coming off the bench in the 6-0 win over Scotland on Tuesday.

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7:35am Fri 16 Aug 13

InterludeWFC says...

He would be a good loan signing for us, but I can't see how he could displace any of our current midfield three, and I'm sure Spurs wouldn't send him out to warm a bench. Perhaps Iriney, at 32 years of age, isn't going to be able to play every game this season, but for now he is playing too well to be dropped. I would, of course, welcome him though - squad-stregnthening is always a good thing.
He would be a good loan signing for us, but I can't see how he could displace any of our current midfield three, and I'm sure Spurs wouldn't send him out to warm a bench. Perhaps Iriney, at 32 years of age, isn't going to be able to play every game this season, but for now he is playing too well to be dropped. I would, of course, welcome him though - squad-stregnthening is always a good thing. InterludeWFC

7:53am Fri 16 Aug 13

Poppet Bear says...

Players need to be rested, particularly in their thirties. We need a strong squad with an injection of youth or a steadying influence, whenever necessary .
Players need to be rested, particularly in their thirties. We need a strong squad with an injection of youth or a steadying influence, whenever necessary . Poppet Bear

7:53am Fri 16 Aug 13

ForzaWatford says...

why? he isnt as good as our current midfielders. have they tried bringing chalobah back? looks as if he isnt going anywhere this window and he needs to be playing.
why? he isnt as good as our current midfielders. have they tried bringing chalobah back? looks as if he isnt going anywhere this window and he needs to be playing. ForzaWatford

8:19am Fri 16 Aug 13

Nick El Greco says...

Very nice Spurs but NO, you still can't have Troy
Very nice Spurs but NO, you still can't have Troy Nick El Greco

8:28am Fri 16 Aug 13

SAHornet says...

ForzaWatford wrote:
why? he isnt as good as our current midfielders. have they tried bringing chalobah back? looks as if he isnt going anywhere this window and he needs to be playing.
Why, because he's a good midfielder and we'll need cover. As far as Nate is concerned, do you think they might have forgotten to ask Chelski if he's available?
[quote][p][bold]ForzaWatford[/bold] wrote: why? he isnt as good as our current midfielders. have they tried bringing chalobah back? looks as if he isnt going anywhere this window and he needs to be playing.[/p][/quote]Why, because he's a good midfielder and we'll need cover. As far as Nate is concerned, do you think they might have forgotten to ask Chelski if he's available? SAHornet

8:34am Fri 16 Aug 13

jasonwatford says...

Chelsea will not loan him to a championship club , they want him to play in a top league so if no one comes in for him here he will go abroad so we can forget about him. Don't know a lot about TC but as long as the loan doesn't mean he has to play as I see our midfield 3 as excellent and we still have Battochhio to fit it too...as well as Murray.
Chelsea will not loan him to a championship club , they want him to play in a top league so if no one comes in for him here he will go abroad so we can forget about him. Don't know a lot about TC but as long as the loan doesn't mean he has to play as I see our midfield 3 as excellent and we still have Battochhio to fit it too...as well as Murray. jasonwatford

8:50am Fri 16 Aug 13

petsoundsnick says...

Forget about Chalobah. Just reading his twitter comments shows he is not coming back to Watford. He'll either end up at a lower end Prem club (dare I say it Palace) or go abroad. He will not play in the Championship this year. If he did, he would be with us again already. Lets face it, both Chalobah and Vydra are too good for the Championship so why would they drop down again?

Carroll is a good player. Adds yet another midfielder to our 6 - Abdi, McGugen, Batto, Iriney, Smith and Murray, meaning we would have 7 for 3 spots. As such, expect either Smith or Murray to go out on load. More likely Murray id say.
Forget about Chalobah. Just reading his twitter comments shows he is not coming back to Watford. He'll either end up at a lower end Prem club (dare I say it Palace) or go abroad. He will not play in the Championship this year. If he did, he would be with us again already. Lets face it, both Chalobah and Vydra are too good for the Championship so why would they drop down again? Carroll is a good player. Adds yet another midfielder to our 6 - Abdi, McGugen, Batto, Iriney, Smith and Murray, meaning we would have 7 for 3 spots. As such, expect either Smith or Murray to go out on load. More likely Murray id say. petsoundsnick

9:06am Fri 16 Aug 13

Chris the Vic says...

Whilst I agree with you petsoundnick that Chalobah is too good for the championship, like Cleverly was, I suspect Vydra may well finish up warming the bench at WBA as he is good but not consistently good and needs to play as a regular in a team to hone those skills. Playing for Zola this season would have made a lot of sense...but then he and his agent may well be found to be short of that commodity
Whilst I agree with you petsoundnick that Chalobah is too good for the championship, like Cleverly was, I suspect Vydra may well finish up warming the bench at WBA as he is good but not consistently good and needs to play as a regular in a team to hone those skills. Playing for Zola this season would have made a lot of sense...but then he and his agent may well be found to be short of that commodity Chris the Vic

9:06am Fri 16 Aug 13

AngelHornet says...

Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily. AngelHornet

9:08am Fri 16 Aug 13

SuperHorn says...

SAHornet wrote:
ForzaWatford wrote:
why? he isnt as good as our current midfielders. have they tried bringing chalobah back? looks as if he isnt going anywhere this window and he needs to be playing.
Why, because he's a good midfielder and we'll need cover. As far as Nate is concerned, do you think they might have forgotten to ask Chelski if he's available?
Spurs won't loan him out to be cover though. They want to loan him out for first team football and I think the only player he could replace is Mcgugan although I doubt it. he's not a defensive midfielder is he?
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ForzaWatford[/bold] wrote: why? he isnt as good as our current midfielders. have they tried bringing chalobah back? looks as if he isnt going anywhere this window and he needs to be playing.[/p][/quote]Why, because he's a good midfielder and we'll need cover. As far as Nate is concerned, do you think they might have forgotten to ask Chelski if he's available?[/p][/quote]Spurs won't loan him out to be cover though. They want to loan him out for first team football and I think the only player he could replace is Mcgugan although I doubt it. he's not a defensive midfielder is he? SuperHorn

9:13am Fri 16 Aug 13

WessexLad says...

AngelHornet wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
"What kind of message does it send to them?"

That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.
[quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.[/p][/quote]"What kind of message does it send to them?" That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern. WessexLad

9:26am Fri 16 Aug 13

AngelHornet says...

WessexLad wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
"What kind of message does it send to them?"

That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.
But he is no better than what we have
[quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.[/p][/quote]"What kind of message does it send to them?" That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have AngelHornet

9:45am Fri 16 Aug 13

StewartScullion says...

Nick El Greco wrote:
Very nice Spurs but NO, you still can't have Troy
Spurs have signed players like Troy before and
They never work in their system eg Zamora and the guy
From Sunderland who they sold to Villa.
West Ham bought Carroll and that leaves Fulham
Out of the list
Carroll looks a good prospect.It's going to be
A tough season we need strength
In depth.This is our championship to win and
Reading,QPR and Wigan to lose.One of them
Possibly to partner us on automatic place
[quote][p][bold]Nick El Greco[/bold] wrote: Very nice Spurs but NO, you still can't have Troy[/p][/quote]Spurs have signed players like Troy before and They never work in their system eg Zamora and the guy From Sunderland who they sold to Villa. West Ham bought Carroll and that leaves Fulham Out of the list Carroll looks a good prospect.It's going to be A tough season we need strength In depth.This is our championship to win and Reading,QPR and Wigan to lose.One of them Possibly to partner us on automatic place StewartScullion

10:00am Fri 16 Aug 13

neilhorn says...

AngelHornet wrote:
WessexLad wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
"What kind of message does it send to them?"

That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.
But he is no better than what we have
a couple of years ago clubs like spurs would loan us players on the proviso that they would play, but they can't dictate to us now. We have full internationals in the first team, good hard pro's with talent, so Spurs can't tell us what to do anymore, Zola picks our side not Villa Boas. Carroll is british and you need 6 Brits in the matchday squad, ther are 46 games and there's every chance that might be a struggle for us sometimes with injuries/suspensions
. Sure at the moment everyone is fit and it doesn't seem like we need him, but what if come Feb we have 5 midfielders out?
[quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.[/p][/quote]"What kind of message does it send to them?" That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have[/p][/quote]a couple of years ago clubs like spurs would loan us players on the proviso that they would play, but they can't dictate to us now. We have full internationals in the first team, good hard pro's with talent, so Spurs can't tell us what to do anymore, Zola picks our side not Villa Boas. Carroll is british and you need 6 Brits in the matchday squad, ther are 46 games and there's every chance that might be a struggle for us sometimes with injuries/suspensions . Sure at the moment everyone is fit and it doesn't seem like we need him, but what if come Feb we have 5 midfielders out? neilhorn

10:03am Fri 16 Aug 13

petsoundsnick says...

AngelHornet wrote:
WessexLad wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
"What kind of message does it send to them?"

That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.
But he is no better than what we have
But he is no better than what we have


Forgive me but I think the scouts that are experts in this field and all the people who work at WFC are probably the people to decide whether Carroll is better than what we have. Not what football manager tells you or the odd snippet from TV. How many people would've said exactly the same thing when Chalobah joined last year...

From what I have seen of Carroll he looks a very decent player that would fit our mould of play. The same can be applied to Smith and Murray so we'll see who is the best when it comes to the crunch. The noise from Murray has been positive this year - think he realises he needs to up his game otherwise he could end up like Ross Jenkins.
[quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.[/p][/quote]"What kind of message does it send to them?" That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have Forgive me but I think the scouts that are experts in this field and all the people who work at WFC are probably the people to decide whether Carroll is better than what we have. Not what football manager tells you or the odd snippet from TV. How many people would've said exactly the same thing when Chalobah joined last year... From what I have seen of Carroll he looks a very decent player that would fit our mould of play. The same can be applied to Smith and Murray so we'll see who is the best when it comes to the crunch. The noise from Murray has been positive this year - think he realises he needs to up his game otherwise he could end up like Ross Jenkins. petsoundsnick

10:07am Fri 16 Aug 13

AngelHornet says...

neilhorn wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
WessexLad wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
"What kind of message does it send to them?"

That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.
But he is no better than what we have
a couple of years ago clubs like spurs would loan us players on the proviso that they would play, but they can't dictate to us now. We have full internationals in the first team, good hard pro's with talent, so Spurs can't tell us what to do anymore, Zola picks our side not Villa Boas. Carroll is british and you need 6 Brits in the matchday squad, ther are 46 games and there's every chance that might be a struggle for us sometimes with injuries/suspensions

. Sure at the moment everyone is fit and it doesn't seem like we need him, but what if come Feb we have 5 midfielders out?
What does that have to do with whether he is better than what we have?
[quote][p][bold]neilhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.[/p][/quote]"What kind of message does it send to them?" That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have[/p][/quote]a couple of years ago clubs like spurs would loan us players on the proviso that they would play, but they can't dictate to us now. We have full internationals in the first team, good hard pro's with talent, so Spurs can't tell us what to do anymore, Zola picks our side not Villa Boas. Carroll is british and you need 6 Brits in the matchday squad, ther are 46 games and there's every chance that might be a struggle for us sometimes with injuries/suspensions . Sure at the moment everyone is fit and it doesn't seem like we need him, but what if come Feb we have 5 midfielders out?[/p][/quote]What does that have to do with whether he is better than what we have? AngelHornet

10:12am Fri 16 Aug 13

AngelHornet says...

petsoundsnick wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
WessexLad wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
"What kind of message does it send to them?"

That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.
But he is no better than what we have
But he is no better than what we have


Forgive me but I think the scouts that are experts in this field and all the people who work at WFC are probably the people to decide whether Carroll is better than what we have. Not what football manager tells you or the odd snippet from TV. How many people would've said exactly the same thing when Chalobah joined last year...

From what I have seen of Carroll he looks a very decent player that would fit our mould of play. The same can be applied to Smith and Murray so we'll see who is the best when it comes to the crunch. The noise from Murray has been positive this year - think he realises he needs to up his game otherwise he could end up like Ross Jenkins.
I hope you are right and perhaps I am being a little negative.
We haven't even signed him...yet, but that is only my opinion, so we'll see!
[quote][p][bold]petsoundsnick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.[/p][/quote]"What kind of message does it send to them?" That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have Forgive me but I think the scouts that are experts in this field and all the people who work at WFC are probably the people to decide whether Carroll is better than what we have. Not what football manager tells you or the odd snippet from TV. How many people would've said exactly the same thing when Chalobah joined last year... From what I have seen of Carroll he looks a very decent player that would fit our mould of play. The same can be applied to Smith and Murray so we'll see who is the best when it comes to the crunch. The noise from Murray has been positive this year - think he realises he needs to up his game otherwise he could end up like Ross Jenkins.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right and perhaps I am being a little negative. We haven't even signed him...yet, but that is only my opinion, so we'll see! AngelHornet

10:24am Fri 16 Aug 13

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

"Carroll, who the f*** is Carroll" as the song goes
"Carroll, who the f*** is Carroll" as the song goes Mickey Quinn, not so thin

10:33am Fri 16 Aug 13

neilhorn says...

AngelHornet wrote:
neilhorn wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
WessexLad wrote:
AngelHornet wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them?
I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.
"What kind of message does it send to them?"

That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.
But he is no better than what we have
a couple of years ago clubs like spurs would loan us players on the proviso that they would play, but they can't dictate to us now. We have full internationals in the first team, good hard pro's with talent, so Spurs can't tell us what to do anymore, Zola picks our side not Villa Boas. Carroll is british and you need 6 Brits in the matchday squad, ther are 46 games and there's every chance that might be a struggle for us sometimes with injuries/suspensions


. Sure at the moment everyone is fit and it doesn't seem like we need him, but what if come Feb we have 5 midfielders out?
What does that have to do with whether he is better than what we have?
i didnt say he was better than what we have. But if you expect our best players to play 46 games without missing one, you're mistaken. I'm saying he's an adequate replacement if/when necessary who has some high level first team experience already, so will be useful when we need him. He's not going to be ousting Abdi or anything
[quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neilhorn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WessexLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngelHornet[/bold] wrote: Not sure what to make of this. We have Murray and Smith who both have talent are are only on the fringe of the team. What kind of message does it send to them? I hope Carroll has strengthened up a bit if he does join, as by reading reports from Derby fans he was a bit lightweight and got pushed off the ball easily.[/p][/quote]"What kind of message does it send to them?" That the bar has been set that little bit higher - and raising the bar should be Zola's only concern.[/p][/quote]But he is no better than what we have[/p][/quote]a couple of years ago clubs like spurs would loan us players on the proviso that they would play, but they can't dictate to us now. We have full internationals in the first team, good hard pro's with talent, so Spurs can't tell us what to do anymore, Zola picks our side not Villa Boas. Carroll is british and you need 6 Brits in the matchday squad, ther are 46 games and there's every chance that might be a struggle for us sometimes with injuries/suspensions . Sure at the moment everyone is fit and it doesn't seem like we need him, but what if come Feb we have 5 midfielders out?[/p][/quote]What does that have to do with whether he is better than what we have?[/p][/quote]i didnt say he was better than what we have. But if you expect our best players to play 46 games without missing one, you're mistaken. I'm saying he's an adequate replacement if/when necessary who has some high level first team experience already, so will be useful when we need him. He's not going to be ousting Abdi or anything neilhorn

10:33am Fri 16 Aug 13

goldanboy says...

We could take him and then loan Jenkins to Palace. Seriously, do we need another midfielder? Really big squads sometimes fuel discontentment. We'd have some good players not getting on the bench. And please, let's not go down the rotation road again...
We could take him and then loan Jenkins to Palace. Seriously, do we need another midfielder? Really big squads sometimes fuel discontentment. We'd have some good players not getting on the bench. And please, let's not go down the rotation road again... goldanboy

10:40am Fri 16 Aug 13

neilhorn says...

goldanboy wrote:
We could take him and then loan Jenkins to Palace. Seriously, do we need another midfielder? Really big squads sometimes fuel discontentment. We'd have some good players not getting on the bench. And please, let's not go down the rotation road again...
Discontent only occurs if players are left out and the team is losing. Murray staked a reasonable claim for a place on Saturday with his performance at Bristol, but he can hardly go banging on Zola's door asking why he was left out when the team has just won 6-1 to go top of the league. So the message is ' we are serious about getting automatic promotion, and if that means you aren't picked, tough, go to Barnsley you'll get a game there, but we are the big boys now'
[quote][p][bold]goldanboy[/bold] wrote: We could take him and then loan Jenkins to Palace. Seriously, do we need another midfielder? Really big squads sometimes fuel discontentment. We'd have some good players not getting on the bench. And please, let's not go down the rotation road again...[/p][/quote]Discontent only occurs if players are left out and the team is losing. Murray staked a reasonable claim for a place on Saturday with his performance at Bristol, but he can hardly go banging on Zola's door asking why he was left out when the team has just won 6-1 to go top of the league. So the message is ' we are serious about getting automatic promotion, and if that means you aren't picked, tough, go to Barnsley you'll get a game there, but we are the big boys now' neilhorn

10:55am Fri 16 Aug 13

67horn says...

Watched him single-handedly rip chelsea u21 apart a week or so ago (inc ake challobah and others) For spurs u21 - someone said they were special - and they were! I thought they had yellow shirts on for a while!!! Always wants the ball, clinical passing. Involved in all 4 technically brilliant watford-esque goals. Probably sign and be a total disaster now.....
Watched him single-handedly rip chelsea u21 apart a week or so ago (inc ake challobah and others) For spurs u21 - someone said they were special - and they were! I thought they had yellow shirts on for a while!!! Always wants the ball, clinical passing. Involved in all 4 technically brilliant watford-esque goals. Probably sign and be a total disaster now..... 67horn

11:17am Fri 16 Aug 13

londomollari says...

Chalobah was a regular last season,. and looked good. But it was in a squad where midfield options were (comparatively) limited. However, the midfield that started against Bournmouth most Championship teams would die for. In fact, after subs, the midfield that Watford finished with most Champ. teams would die for! Spurs would expect this guy to be a regular, first choice, not a standby for injuries. So he would have to be better than what we already have. The only way to keep the existing players happy would be rotation, plus one or two (Murray, Smith) out on loan. Carroll, being British, would help cover the match day requirenments.
Is Carroll better than the midfielders that played against Bournmouth?
Chalobah was a regular last season,. and looked good. But it was in a squad where midfield options were (comparatively) limited. However, the midfield that started against Bournmouth most Championship teams would die for. In fact, after subs, the midfield that Watford finished with most Champ. teams would die for! Spurs would expect this guy to be a regular, first choice, not a standby for injuries. So he would have to be better than what we already have. The only way to keep the existing players happy would be rotation, plus one or two (Murray, Smith) out on loan. Carroll, being British, would help cover the match day requirenments. Is Carroll better than the midfielders that played against Bournmouth? londomollari

2:49pm Fri 16 Aug 13

aussihornet says...

Need someone to battle for LWB role. Just like previous loan players fulham's alexander kacaniklic or Adam Johnson. Someone with flair, something lacking at LWB. Yes we can put anya across at times, to cover daniel, but need extra body there, no central midfield.

Good squad regardless ;-)
Need someone to battle for LWB role. Just like previous loan players fulham's alexander kacaniklic or Adam Johnson. Someone with flair, something lacking at LWB. Yes we can put anya across at times, to cover daniel, but need extra body there, no central midfield. Good squad regardless ;-) aussihornet

10:33pm Fri 16 Aug 13

Man from Pinner says...

I assume he would count as one of the six " home grown" players that now have to be included in the match day squad of 18. Perhaps this has influenced the decision?
Can't imagine Spurs will be pleased if he does not get much game time!
I assume he would count as one of the six " home grown" players that now have to be included in the match day squad of 18. Perhaps this has influenced the decision? Can't imagine Spurs will be pleased if he does not get much game time! Man from Pinner

10:33pm Fri 16 Aug 13

Man from Pinner says...

I assume he would count as one of the six " home grown" players that now have to be included in the match day squad of 18. Perhaps this has influenced the decision?
Can't imagine Spurs will be pleased if he does not get much game time!
I assume he would count as one of the six " home grown" players that now have to be included in the match day squad of 18. Perhaps this has influenced the decision? Can't imagine Spurs will be pleased if he does not get much game time! Man from Pinner

9:31am Sat 17 Aug 13

corbindallas says...

Do we need this loan? I would even question the need to bring Nathaniel back at the moment, we don't need to bring a loan in to improve them for someone elses club when we have a pool of players already for that position, if the player is better then I understand but clearly the court is out on him being a better player. We have home grown players to make the quota and if needs be I am sure we can re look at it in January. This is one point I find a bit disjointed as Nani deals with this side of things and hopefully Zola has a big say but reading the Deeney transfer speculation I am not so sure he does? If we brought a loan in I would say they must be a imrovment to the club squad and also be flexi so as not needing to play them because that is part of the deal, even Nathaniel had periods last year where I would have dropped him a few games but we didn't have that luxury with choice..
Do we need this loan? I would even question the need to bring Nathaniel back at the moment, we don't need to bring a loan in to improve them for someone elses club when we have a pool of players already for that position, if the player is better then I understand but clearly the court is out on him being a better player. We have home grown players to make the quota and if needs be I am sure we can re look at it in January. This is one point I find a bit disjointed as Nani deals with this side of things and hopefully Zola has a big say but reading the Deeney transfer speculation I am not so sure he does? If we brought a loan in I would say they must be a imrovment to the club squad and also be flexi so as not needing to play them because that is part of the deal, even Nathaniel had periods last year where I would have dropped him a few games but we didn't have that luxury with choice.. corbindallas

1:05pm Sat 17 Aug 13

factfinding says...

he wouldn't get a game. We had enough players last season who never played.
he wouldn't get a game. We had enough players last season who never played. factfinding

11:51pm Sun 18 Aug 13

Cuetip says...

Still it would be nice to have a local lad.
Still it would be nice to have a local lad. Cuetip

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