Beppe Sannino has first Watford win as Millwall well beaten

Happy Hornets: Ikechi Anya celebrates his goal. Picture: Action Images

Happy Hornets: Ikechi Anya celebrates his goal. Picture: Action Images

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Watford’s ten-game wait for a win is over and Beppe Sannino has his first victory as head coach after Millwall were impressively beaten 4-0 at Vicarage Road.

It had been more than two months since the Hornets last scored at home but that wait finally ended in the tenth minute when Troy Deeney scored from the penalty spot after being fouled by Dan Shittu, who was sent off as a result.

Fernando Forestieri made it 2-0 before the break when he finished from close range after being set up Ikechi Anya and it was the winger who scored the third within three minutes of the restart with a fine finish from the edge of the penalty area.

Watford were four goals to the good on the hour after a second penalty was converted, this time by Lewis McGugan, following a handball. The margin of the Hornets’ first home victory in six could easily have been even more emphatic as they also had a goal ruled out for offside and hit the woodwork on three other occasions.

Sannino made two changes from the side which drew 1-1 at Ipswich Town last time out for his first home game at the Hornets helm.

Anya replaced Daniel Pudil, who was not in the match-day 18, while Forestieri came in for Diego Fabbrini, who dropped to the bench.

Millwall had a disappointing 2-0 reverse at home to Middlesbrough in their previous outing and boss Steve Lomas made five changes to that starting line-up in a 4-2-3-1 formation.

Alan Dunne, Paul Robinson, Scott McDonald and Scott Malone dropped to the bench while Liam Feeney was left out and their places were taken by Justin Hoyte, Vicarage Road old boy Dan Shittu, Shane Lowry, Guy Moussi and Nadjim Abdou. Another former Watford player, Jack Smith, was among the replacements.

The hosts started positively and looked to be progressive by varying their angles of attack and moving the ball wide. Their first sight of an opening came in the seventh minute when Forestieri released Marco Cassetti on the right, he played a deep cross to the back post where Deeney headed down but Shittu managed to clear the ball as Sean Murray closed in at pace.

But in the tenth minute Watford’s 392-minute wait for a goal finally came to an end after the Lions had been reduced to ten men.

The incident arose after a fine Lewis McGugan through ball put Deeney through on goal and as the striker prepared to pull the trigger, he was clearly tripped from behind by Shittu. Referee Andy D’Urso had no option but to send the Millwall skipper off as it was a clear goal-scoring opportunity and after Shittu had been applauded off the pitch by all sides of Vicarage Road, Deeney confidently stepped up and sent David Forde the wrong way from the penalty spot to celebrate his 150th Hornets appearance with his 11th goal of the season.

Lomas shuffled his troops following the sending off, bringing on Robinson for Moussi, but in the 13th minute the visitors very nearly equalised.

After Manuel Almunia had punched the first corner of the match away and behind, Martyn Woolford swung over the resultant set piece from the right and Steve Morison was able to get in a free header which Anya did well to clear off the line.

But the Hornets should have been awarded a second penalty in the 20th minute and, if it had been given, their opponents would surely have been reduced to nine men.

This time it was Forestieri who was the creator as he slipped Deeney through on goal, the forward again got free only to be clearly held back by Robinson but this time D’Urso decided a foul had not been committed.

However, Watford did double their lead in the 28th minute when a good diagonal ball from Murray picked out the run of Anya on the left and his first-time lay-off across the six-yard box found Forestieri, who took a touch before prodding the ball past Forde.

And 2-0 could have easily become 3-0 inside three minutes when McGugan swung over a free-kick from the right and Cassetti found space at the near post but he couldn’t direct his header beneath the crossbar.

Watford’s next reasonable opening came six minutes before the break when Forestieri laid the ball inside to McGugan, whose strike from around 20 yards was deflected behind off Deeney.

Forestieri was booked in the last minute of normal time at the end of the first half for a foul on Liam Trotter as the Hornets went into the break comfortably in control.

And the home side’s grip on the contest was tightened still further within three minutes of the restart when they scored a superb third.

George Thorne started things off with a fine cross-field ball out to the left where Anya initially shaped to go outside two men before coming back inside and accelerating towards the edge of the area before hitting a great right-footed strike that beat Forde inside his near post.

With their confidence now flowing, the Hornets were a fraction away from scoring at least an equally impressive fourth two minutes later when a fine move ended with Forestieri letting fly right-footed from outside the area and his shot left Forde standing as it crashed back out off his right-hand post.

Millwall thought they had pulled one back in the 53rd minute when Morison headed home after Mark Beevers had headed a free-kick back across goal following a free-kick but it was ruled out for offside.

Lomas made two changes, bringing on Richard Chaplow and Smith for Jermaine Easter and Liam Trotter either side of another terrific strike, this time from McGugan, that also hit the woodwork.

But Watford did net a fourth on the hour mark after being awarded their second penalty of the afternoon.

D’Urso initially turned down the appeals when the Hornets appealed vociferously for handball against Robinson following a Murray cross but the assistant continued to flag and the referee changed his mind. This time McGugan assumed the responsibility from 12 yards and he confidently dispatched the ball into the bottom corner to get on the scoresheet.

After Chaplow had been booked for a foul on Anya, Forde held onto Forestieri’s resultant 25-yard free-kick at the second attempt before a good performance from Thorne came to an end when he was replaced by Iriney.

Joel Ekstrand then saw yellow for a foul on Chaplow before Forestieri had a goal ruled out for offside in the 74th minute when he converted a Murray cross from the right.

McGugan made way for Cristian Battocchio in the 77th minute but not before he had almost netted a fifth when he danced around two opponents before hitting a left-footed strike from the left side of the area that cannoned off the bar with Forde beaten again.

Shane Lowry was booked for a foul on Casetti but still Watford pressed with Iriney having a shot blocked before Forestieri curled an effort wide of the near post.

Hector Bellerin replaced Anya with five minutes remaining before Justin Hoyte almost scored an impressive consolation with a dipping strike from 25 yards which Almunia had to tip over. But back came the home side with Forestieri hitting an overhead kick at Forde as the Hornets rounded off Christmas perfectly for their fans.

Watford: Almunia; Doyley, Angella, Ekstrand; Cassetti, Murray, Thorne (Iriney 69), McGugan (Battocchio 77), Anya (Bellerin 85); Forestieri, Deeney. Not used: Bond, Fabbrini, C Smith, Nosworthy.

Millwall: Forde; Hoyte, Shittu, Beevers, Lowry; Moussi (Robinson 13), Abdou; Easter (Chaplow 55), Trotter (J Smith 57), Woolford; Morrison. Not used: Bywater, Dunne, Malone, McDonald.

Bookings: Shittu sent off for denying a clear goal-scoring opportunity (9); Forestieri for a foul on Trotter (45); Chaplow for a foul on Anya (67); Ekstrand for a foul on Chaplow (70); Lowry for a foul on Cassetti (79).

Attendance: 15,471 (963 away).

Referee: Andy D’Urso.

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3:33pm Thu 26 Dec 13

paultheshrink says...

At long long last.
Perhaps losing GFZ is the end of the beginning - not the beginning of the end.
At long long last. Perhaps losing GFZ is the end of the beginning - not the beginning of the end. paultheshrink
  • Score: 7

3:41pm Thu 26 Dec 13

SJM...laugh at luton says...

Great win,very happy with Watford today.

Still can't believe I was reported and warned for talking about my opinion about the f.a...

Why do we have so many politically correct whollys following Watford...
Cheers anyway
Great win,very happy with Watford today. Still can't believe I was reported and warned for talking about my opinion about the f.a... Why do we have so many politically correct whollys following Watford... Cheers anyway SJM...laugh at luton
  • Score: -26

3:46pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Cuetip says...

paultheshrink wrote:
At long long last.
Perhaps losing GFZ is the end of the beginning - not the beginning of the end.
Brill That's what the doctor ordered for long suffering supporters who never lost faith. Team tactics much more positive with more scope up front and not crowding the midfield. everyone knew their job.
[quote][p][bold]paultheshrink[/bold] wrote: At long long last. Perhaps losing GFZ is the end of the beginning - not the beginning of the end.[/p][/quote]Brill That's what the doctor ordered for long suffering supporters who never lost faith. Team tactics much more positive with more scope up front and not crowding the midfield. everyone knew their job. Cuetip
  • Score: 4

3:49pm Thu 26 Dec 13

peter10531089 says...

We looked more balanced than we have all season. Very encouraging and nice to see Deeney handing the 2nd penalty chance to McGugan after he had hit the wood work a number of times. All very encouraging Mr Sannino
We looked more balanced than we have all season. Very encouraging and nice to see Deeney handing the 2nd penalty chance to McGugan after he had hit the wood work a number of times. All very encouraging Mr Sannino peter10531089
  • Score: 7

3:50pm Thu 26 Dec 13

InterludeWFC says...

Everyone involved with the club has received a massive confidence boost today - the players believe in themsleves again, and any fears the fans may have had are proved unfounded. Of course, Millwall played with 10-men for 80 minutes, but it would have been easy for us to hang on at 2-0. Instead, we were rampant in going for a 3rd and 4th, and could have easily won the game by six or seven goals without it flattering us.

We are back!!
Everyone involved with the club has received a massive confidence boost today - the players believe in themsleves again, and any fears the fans may have had are proved unfounded. Of course, Millwall played with 10-men for 80 minutes, but it would have been easy for us to hang on at 2-0. Instead, we were rampant in going for a 3rd and 4th, and could have easily won the game by six or seven goals without it flattering us. We are back!! InterludeWFC
  • Score: 15

4:04pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Poppet Bear says...

Woooow !!! A clean sheet as well !!!
Woooow !!! A clean sheet as well !!! Poppet Bear
  • Score: 5

4:15pm Thu 26 Dec 13

JHEAFFEY says...

Good performance.

Milwall made it easy for us, but we also made it look pretty easy at times to. No real issues at the back and some excellent play going forwards.

Little bit of disagreement between Fernando, Troy and McGugan though which hopefully someone will nip in the but.

Murray overlapping and Casetti on the right were both excellent for me today, and what a nice goal by Anya, that's what happens when he runs at his man.
Good performance. Milwall made it easy for us, but we also made it look pretty easy at times to. No real issues at the back and some excellent play going forwards. Little bit of disagreement between Fernando, Troy and McGugan though which hopefully someone will nip in the but. Murray overlapping and Casetti on the right were both excellent for me today, and what a nice goal by Anya, that's what happens when he runs at his man. JHEAFFEY
  • Score: 3

4:35pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Man from Pinner says...

Great performance today. Team kept their shape throughout. Never seen McGugan work that hard; looked a real good player. Particularly pleasing to see the likes of Murray and Doyley play so well.
Looking forward to Sunday.
Great performance today. Team kept their shape throughout. Never seen McGugan work that hard; looked a real good player. Particularly pleasing to see the likes of Murray and Doyley play so well. Looking forward to Sunday. Man from Pinner
  • Score: 6

4:54pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -76

5:03pm Thu 26 Dec 13

BlakeyJ says...

Very impressed! Even against 10 men, every set piece had 11 men behind the ball. Beppe has put some rigid defensive rules in place which has given structure and discipline. Thorne was excellent, always an option if mcgoo or Murray couldn't find the killer ball. Anya and the beard were also very good, only pressing forward when the moment was right and didn't leave us exposed.
Guess he will start to work on set pieces, Anya's clearance in first half and there disallowed goal shows we still allow a lot of space/free headers... But he's been there a week!
Loving life at the moment! 4-0 could have been 7!
Ole

COYH
Very impressed! Even against 10 men, every set piece had 11 men behind the ball. Beppe has put some rigid defensive rules in place which has given structure and discipline. Thorne was excellent, always an option if mcgoo or Murray couldn't find the killer ball. Anya and the beard were also very good, only pressing forward when the moment was right and didn't leave us exposed. Guess he will start to work on set pieces, Anya's clearance in first half and there disallowed goal shows we still allow a lot of space/free headers... But he's been there a week! Loving life at the moment! 4-0 could have been 7! Ole COYH BlakeyJ
  • Score: 3

5:09pm Thu 26 Dec 13

neil-bs says...

SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
Great win,very happy with Watford today.

Still can't believe I was reported and warned for talking about my opinion about the f.a...

Why do we have so many politically correct whollys following Watford...
Cheers anyway
I think the problem with Watford fans is we don't have enough. Sometimes I think you are an unbelievable shower not like the 60s and 70s. Merry Christmas.
[quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: Great win,very happy with Watford today. Still can't believe I was reported and warned for talking about my opinion about the f.a... Why do we have so many politically correct whollys following Watford... Cheers anyway[/p][/quote]I think the problem with Watford fans is we don't have enough. Sometimes I think you are an unbelievable shower not like the 60s and 70s. Merry Christmas. neil-bs
  • Score: -34

5:09pm Thu 26 Dec 13

onion8837 says...

You could tell from the warm up that things had changed - much more attention to the defence. Worked harder without the ball than at any time previously this season - made a huge amount of difference
You could tell from the warm up that things had changed - much more attention to the defence. Worked harder without the ball than at any time previously this season - made a huge amount of difference onion8837
  • Score: 6

5:10pm Thu 26 Dec 13

neil-bs says...

InterludeWFC wrote:
Everyone involved with the club has received a massive confidence boost today - the players believe in themsleves again, and any fears the fans may have had are proved unfounded. Of course, Millwall played with 10-men for 80 minutes, but it would have been easy for us to hang on at 2-0. Instead, we were rampant in going for a 3rd and 4th, and could have easily won the game by six or seven goals without it flattering us.

We are back!!
Look, we need to wait a bit but a super result but don't get too worked up. COYH.
[quote][p][bold]InterludeWFC[/bold] wrote: Everyone involved with the club has received a massive confidence boost today - the players believe in themsleves again, and any fears the fans may have had are proved unfounded. Of course, Millwall played with 10-men for 80 minutes, but it would have been easy for us to hang on at 2-0. Instead, we were rampant in going for a 3rd and 4th, and could have easily won the game by six or seven goals without it flattering us. We are back!![/p][/quote]Look, we need to wait a bit but a super result but don't get too worked up. COYH. neil-bs
  • Score: -12

5:12pm Thu 26 Dec 13

neil-bs says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
Me too!
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]Me too! neil-bs
  • Score: -60

5:19pm Thu 26 Dec 13

stevyweavy says...

Wow what a difference. Was I dreaming but did we have a defence and did all the team plays as one unit? Having two players on the posts at corners saved one goal already with Anya's clearance. Thorne looked better as was not isolated as did Deeney. Everybody had a good game but the real test comes with QPR. Really excellent performance from players and coaching staff - and this is before the Manager can speak English - who knows what we can achieve once all the players can understand him!! COYH!!!!
Wow what a difference. Was I dreaming but did we have a defence and did all the team plays as one unit? Having two players on the posts at corners saved one goal already with Anya's clearance. Thorne looked better as was not isolated as did Deeney. Everybody had a good game but the real test comes with QPR. Really excellent performance from players and coaching staff - and this is before the Manager can speak English - who knows what we can achieve once all the players can understand him!! COYH!!!! stevyweavy
  • Score: 9

5:22pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Daybah says...

SJM...laugh at luton wrote:
Great win,very happy with Watford today.

Still can't believe I was reported and warned for talking about my opinion about the f.a...

Why do we have so many politically correct whollys following Watford...
Cheers anyway
If you don't understand why you were reported, then to use your own eloquent words, you must be a hit of a ''***t''.
[quote][p][bold]SJM...laugh at luton[/bold] wrote: Great win,very happy with Watford today. Still can't believe I was reported and warned for talking about my opinion about the f.a... Why do we have so many politically correct whollys following Watford... Cheers anyway[/p][/quote]If you don't understand why you were reported, then to use your own eloquent words, you must be a hit of a ''***t''. Daybah
  • Score: -9

5:31pm Thu 26 Dec 13

gloryhornet4 says...

At last a game where we attacked rather than spend the entire game trying to find space with pretty football.

Nice to be able to bring on 3 subs to rest 3 players that had good games, and look at the squad rather than subs to try to get back on terms.

Poor Danny the curse of former players returning to Vic Rd and getting sent off continues.
At last a game where we attacked rather than spend the entire game trying to find space with pretty football. Nice to be able to bring on 3 subs to rest 3 players that had good games, and look at the squad rather than subs to try to get back on terms. Poor Danny the curse of former players returning to Vic Rd and getting sent off continues. gloryhornet4
  • Score: -12

5:51pm Thu 26 Dec 13

The BestTrip2011 says...

A good win and the team looked much more confident than it has in the last few weeks, however lets not get carried away by beating a very poor team with 10 men who are on a downward slide.
Sunday will be a different proposition altogether.
If we can take at least a point of Rangers and win at Yeovil that would be an excellent start to Beppe's reign.
A good win and the team looked much more confident than it has in the last few weeks, however lets not get carried away by beating a very poor team with 10 men who are on a downward slide. Sunday will be a different proposition altogether. If we can take at least a point of Rangers and win at Yeovil that would be an excellent start to Beppe's reign. The BestTrip2011
  • Score: 4

5:57pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Eastsussexhornet says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
Quite right, so you should.
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]Quite right, so you should. Eastsussexhornet
  • Score: -51

6:24pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
Quite right, so you should.
We are winners in an ocean of plop
[quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]Quite right, so you should.[/p][/quote]We are winners in an ocean of plop Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -44

6:25pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Bobbyhowfield says...

We are now second top scorers in the division ,
One dodgy penalty conceded in 2 games, if we can keep the goals against down top six is still possible.
We are now second top scorers in the division , One dodgy penalty conceded in 2 games, if we can keep the goals against down top six is still possible. Bobbyhowfield
  • Score: 5

7:16pm Thu 26 Dec 13

rogeruk says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
Well done HC, do you see what small minded individuals we have on this site, even knowing the truth they cannot admit it! In contant self-denial?
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]Well done HC, do you see what small minded individuals we have on this site, even knowing the truth they cannot admit it! In contant self-denial? rogeruk
  • Score: -55

8:11pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Hornet Cornet says...

rogeruk wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
Well done HC, do you see what small minded individuals we have on this site, even knowing the truth they cannot admit it! In contant self-denial?
It's a tough world we live in. We make our decisions based on fact, not emotion.

HC
[quote][p][bold]rogeruk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]Well done HC, do you see what small minded individuals we have on this site, even knowing the truth they cannot admit it! In contant self-denial?[/p][/quote]It's a tough world we live in. We make our decisions based on fact, not emotion. HC Hornet Cornet
  • Score: -35

8:27pm Thu 26 Dec 13

coldplay says...

An encouraging performance and a well deserved win. I was so impressed with the pre match warm up sessions and with the way the coaches went about their business...lots of encouragement and there seemed a great spirit amongst the group. The work with the defensive unit gave an indication of the focus being directed towards becoming more solid at the back and keeping clean sheets.
During the game we looked better defensively, the back three were excellent as a unit and Cassetti and Anya put in the hard yards with great tracking back.
Everyone played their part in an excellent team performance and it was great to see the confidence returning right through the team. Special mention for George Thorne's outstanding performance in midfield with great break up play and an excellent array of passing. In addition his strong leadership and ability to organise are qualities so impressive from one so young and inexperienced. Cassetti also caught the eye in a strong team performance playing in an interesting wide right position that provides defensive stability, particularly when we face counter attacks.
Important to manage expectations...it was only Millwall with ten men, the tempo of play was slow at times, but that will always be the case when you are coming off the back of a bad run and you need to rebuild confidence, and we were susceptible to the odd cross...but you can only beat what's in front of you and we did that with a bit of style. Seems to me that the new regime is bringing a few smiles back to The Vic, both on and off the pitch.
Not wishing to condone rule breaking, but the pitch invasion by one of the coaches to celebrate Anya's goal, says something about what's going on behind the scenes.
An encouraging performance and a well deserved win. I was so impressed with the pre match warm up sessions and with the way the coaches went about their business...lots of encouragement and there seemed a great spirit amongst the group. The work with the defensive unit gave an indication of the focus being directed towards becoming more solid at the back and keeping clean sheets. During the game we looked better defensively, the back three were excellent as a unit and Cassetti and Anya put in the hard yards with great tracking back. Everyone played their part in an excellent team performance and it was great to see the confidence returning right through the team. Special mention for George Thorne's outstanding performance in midfield with great break up play and an excellent array of passing. In addition his strong leadership and ability to organise are qualities so impressive from one so young and inexperienced. Cassetti also caught the eye in a strong team performance playing in an interesting wide right position that provides defensive stability, particularly when we face counter attacks. Important to manage expectations...it was only Millwall with ten men, the tempo of play was slow at times, but that will always be the case when you are coming off the back of a bad run and you need to rebuild confidence, and we were susceptible to the odd cross...but you can only beat what's in front of you and we did that with a bit of style. Seems to me that the new regime is bringing a few smiles back to The Vic, both on and off the pitch. Not wishing to condone rule breaking, but the pitch invasion by one of the coaches to celebrate Anya's goal, says something about what's going on behind the scenes. coldplay
  • Score: 39

8:34pm Thu 26 Dec 13

rickmansworth_robert says...

Great to see we are back to winning ways. I predicted we would run away with it before the game and was subsequently proved correct in my hypothesis. 6th position is definitely reachable!

QPR lost today so they will be under immense pressure to come to the vic and nick a result. Hopefully Beppe will release a press statement playing mind games with Harry Redknapp and the QPR players in order to unsettle them. For example he could say to the press that he is going to play defensive and settle for the draw. With the QPR players expecting a defensive Watford, if we were to then actually play an offensive team we could really take them by surprise.

Saw Chalobah was on the bench today, big shame. He is only on loan till January, might be worth a loan bid.

RR
Great to see we are back to winning ways. I predicted we would run away with it before the game and was subsequently proved correct in my hypothesis. 6th position is definitely reachable! QPR lost today so they will be under immense pressure to come to the vic and nick a result. Hopefully Beppe will release a press statement playing mind games with Harry Redknapp and the QPR players in order to unsettle them. For example he could say to the press that he is going to play defensive and settle for the draw. With the QPR players expecting a defensive Watford, if we were to then actually play an offensive team we could really take them by surprise. Saw Chalobah was on the bench today, big shame. He is only on loan till January, might be worth a loan bid. RR rickmansworth_robert
  • Score: -8

8:37pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Barry Scott says...

Spot on Coldplay. I agree with you comments that we look more solid as a unit at the back. I thought we looked to get the ball wide quickly. With the players we have, we will always be good going forward, we just need to build on a solid foundation at the back.
Spot on Coldplay. I agree with you comments that we look more solid as a unit at the back. I thought we looked to get the ball wide quickly. With the players we have, we will always be good going forward, we just need to build on a solid foundation at the back. Barry Scott
  • Score: 9

9:09pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Maclanx says...

Relieved to see the team playing for each other again and having more than one person in the box for a cross!

Thorne had a good game and the game changed slightly in Millwall's favour when he went off - but does any else think he is lacking in confidence? He was sitting so far back he was next to GA and JE in defence when we had the ball in attack. Looking forward to seeing him develop before he leaves.
Relieved to see the team playing for each other again and having more than one person in the box for a cross! Thorne had a good game and the game changed slightly in Millwall's favour when he went off - but does any else think he is lacking in confidence? He was sitting so far back he was next to GA and JE in defence when we had the ball in attack. Looking forward to seeing him develop before he leaves. Maclanx
  • Score: -8

9:32pm Thu 26 Dec 13

ralear49 says...

It's a funny old game. Sorting through the comments of those lucky enough to be at the game, they are more about the attitude and effort of the players than any major tactical shift. And I can't buy that a different warm up routine would influence anything once the whistle blows. So, why couldn't they do it for GZ who many professed to love? On one game's evidence, tha change was indeed necessary, if only to rebuild motivation and confidence. I hope GZ lands a great gig and that WFC move on up the table and reward the loyal punters.
It's a funny old game. Sorting through the comments of those lucky enough to be at the game, they are more about the attitude and effort of the players than any major tactical shift. And I can't buy that a different warm up routine would influence anything once the whistle blows. So, why couldn't they do it for GZ who many professed to love? On one game's evidence, tha change was indeed necessary, if only to rebuild motivation and confidence. I hope GZ lands a great gig and that WFC move on up the table and reward the loyal punters. ralear49
  • Score: 4

10:03pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

ralear49 wrote:
It's a funny old game. Sorting through the comments of those lucky enough to be at the game, they are more about the attitude and effort of the players than any major tactical shift. And I can't buy that a different warm up routine would influence anything once the whistle blows. So, why couldn't they do it for GZ who many professed to love? On one game's evidence, tha change was indeed necessary, if only to rebuild motivation and confidence. I hope GZ lands a great gig and that WFC move on up the table and reward the loyal punters.
A decent point you make: The formation was the same as GZ's; The personnel much the same as Zola's first XI; we still played out from the back and played nice football; and at times in the first half we looked a bit laboured and a bit slow. But why was the result the polar opposite to the last few home results under Zola?!
I guess the changes were all very subtle. Fessi played a lot higher up the pitch and linked up well, we looked organised at the back, we had a man on the back post for corners (which saved a goal).
I think the biggest thing which helped massively was that we scored early and they were down to 10 men - under Zola we often started well but couldn't convert the chances we created and then we let in sloppy goal, heads dropped and we couldn't break down the opposition who stuck 11 men behind the bal. So it's difficult to tell how good our performance was today, but it was very pleasing result esp. considering we haven't seen a home goal since late October! We ripped them apart in the 2nd half and we certainly had our shooting boots on but Milwall were BAD!! The main difference today was that every player put in a good shift for 90 mins (players having to prove themselves to a new manager certainly increases motivation), we played with confidence and the players played with a smile on their face. Fessi was magnificent.
Early signs from Sannino are good.... Big test coming up against QPR.
COYH
[quote][p][bold]ralear49[/bold] wrote: It's a funny old game. Sorting through the comments of those lucky enough to be at the game, they are more about the attitude and effort of the players than any major tactical shift. And I can't buy that a different warm up routine would influence anything once the whistle blows. So, why couldn't they do it for GZ who many professed to love? On one game's evidence, tha change was indeed necessary, if only to rebuild motivation and confidence. I hope GZ lands a great gig and that WFC move on up the table and reward the loyal punters.[/p][/quote]A decent point you make: The formation was the same as GZ's; The personnel much the same as Zola's first XI; we still played out from the back and played nice football; and at times in the first half we looked a bit laboured and a bit slow. But why was the result the polar opposite to the last few home results under Zola?! I guess the changes were all very subtle. Fessi played a lot higher up the pitch and linked up well, we looked organised at the back, we had a man on the back post for corners (which saved a goal). I think the biggest thing which helped massively was that we scored early and they were down to 10 men - under Zola we often started well but couldn't convert the chances we created and then we let in sloppy goal, heads dropped and we couldn't break down the opposition who stuck 11 men behind the bal. So it's difficult to tell how good our performance was today, but it was very pleasing result esp. considering we haven't seen a home goal since late October! We ripped them apart in the 2nd half and we certainly had our shooting boots on but Milwall were BAD!! The main difference today was that every player put in a good shift for 90 mins (players having to prove themselves to a new manager certainly increases motivation), we played with confidence and the players played with a smile on their face. Fessi was magnificent. Early signs from Sannino are good.... Big test coming up against QPR. COYH Stoney77
  • Score: 16

10:25pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Stoney77 says...

Maclanx wrote:
Relieved to see the team playing for each other again and having more than one person in the box for a cross!

Thorne had a good game and the game changed slightly in Millwall's favour when he went off - but does any else think he is lacking in confidence? He was sitting so far back he was next to GA and JE in defence when we had the ball in attack. Looking forward to seeing him develop before he leaves.
Judging by the multiple raking cross field balls Thorne made today I would say his confidence is just fine. Re positioning, I would imagine Sannino instructed him to remain deep to help us defend any counter attacks. He had a good game though and hope we can keep him here for the season
[quote][p][bold]Maclanx[/bold] wrote: Relieved to see the team playing for each other again and having more than one person in the box for a cross! Thorne had a good game and the game changed slightly in Millwall's favour when he went off - but does any else think he is lacking in confidence? He was sitting so far back he was next to GA and JE in defence when we had the ball in attack. Looking forward to seeing him develop before he leaves.[/p][/quote]Judging by the multiple raking cross field balls Thorne made today I would say his confidence is just fine. Re positioning, I would imagine Sannino instructed him to remain deep to help us defend any counter attacks. He had a good game though and hope we can keep him here for the season Stoney77
  • Score: 8

10:34pm Thu 26 Dec 13

corbindallas says...

I guess time will tell with the tactical changes being made even subtle ones at that, like todays game, the big question is why we played like a unit today compared to the last dozen games under GFZ where we did not look like a joint team, I do believe we have too many midfield players and also we need to address back to front and wait to see what January brings for us to move further forward. Re the QPR game why would a point be satisfactory I want all 3 points and b l o o d y hope the players on the pitch for us do also!
I guess time will tell with the tactical changes being made even subtle ones at that, like todays game, the big question is why we played like a unit today compared to the last dozen games under GFZ where we did not look like a joint team, I do believe we have too many midfield players and also we need to address back to front and wait to see what January brings for us to move further forward. Re the QPR game why would a point be satisfactory I want all 3 points and b l o o d y hope the players on the pitch for us do also! corbindallas
  • Score: 9

10:35pm Thu 26 Dec 13

jasonwatford says...

We are now seeing a different side to this Watford team , We have always had the individuals just not the team. Change was needed and the result of it is shown on the pitch. Professional players need to treat the job in a professional way and that was not happening before......when your winning I guess you can say it's ok but when your not getting results you need to put the hours in and get the job done. We do look more solid in defence and fall to a flat back 4 when a team attack us plus when we attack we have players making runs. One thing does show is that they all know what they are meant to be doing and who they are marking rather than a load of headless chickens. I think we will hold out own against QPR and draw 0-0 which would be good at present.
We are now seeing a different side to this Watford team , We have always had the individuals just not the team. Change was needed and the result of it is shown on the pitch. Professional players need to treat the job in a professional way and that was not happening before......when your winning I guess you can say it's ok but when your not getting results you need to put the hours in and get the job done. We do look more solid in defence and fall to a flat back 4 when a team attack us plus when we attack we have players making runs. One thing does show is that they all know what they are meant to be doing and who they are marking rather than a load of headless chickens. I think we will hold out own against QPR and draw 0-0 which would be good at present. jasonwatford
  • Score: -1

10:51pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Henry VIII says...

Very early days and while we shouldn't get carried away, how good it is that we have a team playing again, for each other, chasing, harrying, forcing the opponents (albeit Millwall on a poor run), you cannot choose your opponent, just deal with what you can deal with. The new man Sannino seems very likeable, again early days. If we lose at QPR we should not be too quick to judge, the new set up is learning day by day but clearly something has already changed and positive thoughts are clearly infectious. Well done lads, a perfect Boxing Day gift. I cannot quite put my finger on it, but things already feel quite a bit better at The Vic!
Very early days and while we shouldn't get carried away, how good it is that we have a team playing again, for each other, chasing, harrying, forcing the opponents (albeit Millwall on a poor run), you cannot choose your opponent, just deal with what you can deal with. The new man Sannino seems very likeable, again early days. If we lose at QPR we should not be too quick to judge, the new set up is learning day by day but clearly something has already changed and positive thoughts are clearly infectious. Well done lads, a perfect Boxing Day gift. I cannot quite put my finger on it, but things already feel quite a bit better at The Vic! Henry VIII
  • Score: 5

10:53pm Thu 26 Dec 13

onion8837 says...

ralear49 wrote:
It's a funny old game. Sorting through the comments of those lucky enough to be at the game, they are more about the attitude and effort of the players than any major tactical shift. And I can't buy that a different warm up routine would influence anything once the whistle blows. So, why couldn't they do it for GZ who many professed to love? On one game's evidence, tha change was indeed necessary, if only to rebuild motivation and confidence. I hope GZ lands a great gig and that WFC move on up the table and reward the loyal punters.
not the warm-up routine per se, but that must reflect the training in the week prior to the game... Much more about the defence working together as a unit rather then everyone having a lovely one touch passing game in a small marked out area
[quote][p][bold]ralear49[/bold] wrote: It's a funny old game. Sorting through the comments of those lucky enough to be at the game, they are more about the attitude and effort of the players than any major tactical shift. And I can't buy that a different warm up routine would influence anything once the whistle blows. So, why couldn't they do it for GZ who many professed to love? On one game's evidence, tha change was indeed necessary, if only to rebuild motivation and confidence. I hope GZ lands a great gig and that WFC move on up the table and reward the loyal punters.[/p][/quote]not the warm-up routine per se, but that must reflect the training in the week prior to the game... Much more about the defence working together as a unit rather then everyone having a lovely one touch passing game in a small marked out area onion8837
  • Score: 5

10:57pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Andrew1963 says...

Good win, against a very poor side. still work to do on defending dead balls. The manager is more energetic than Harry the Hornet, a cross between Len Goodman and Paulo Di Canio. He is no taller than Zola, so he also makes the return of the 5' 3" chant a distinct possibility.
Good win, against a very poor side. still work to do on defending dead balls. The manager is more energetic than Harry the Hornet, a cross between Len Goodman and Paulo Di Canio. He is no taller than Zola, so he also makes the return of the 5' 3" chant a distinct possibility. Andrew1963
  • Score: 1

1:26am Fri 27 Dec 13

PozzoHornet says...

Having seen some of the comments on this page I must say I'm disappointed by how quick people are to praise us. While there were elements which were worthy of praise (Cassetti was generally impressing; Murray made some nice tackles; Thorne's distribution looks to be improving; Deeney's movement and general on pitch attitude was better; men on posts) some of the old problems remain. Ekstrand's first touch was consistently poor and personally, I think he is having a bit of a confidence crisis. Once more, we looked vulnerable from set pieces, with one cleared off the line and another ruled out for offside. Although we scored 4, 2 of them were pens, and many chances went begging, our profligacy from last season showing through again. And to those declaring we are back and that our we were solid in defense, please keep in mind we were playing against 10 men for 80 mins. They brought off a midfielder and brought on a defender to replace Shittu, hence our seemingly miraculous ability to dominate possession. Not only that, but our defense had barely anything to do. Of course, I'm happy with the result, but lets not get carried away. We were lucky that Shittu got himself sent off today, and, yes, we took advantage of that luck, but we still have a long way to go. COYH
Having seen some of the comments on this page I must say I'm disappointed by how quick people are to praise us. While there were elements which were worthy of praise (Cassetti was generally impressing; Murray made some nice tackles; Thorne's distribution looks to be improving; Deeney's movement and general on pitch attitude was better; men on posts) some of the old problems remain. Ekstrand's first touch was consistently poor and personally, I think he is having a bit of a confidence crisis. Once more, we looked vulnerable from set pieces, with one cleared off the line and another ruled out for offside. Although we scored 4, 2 of them were pens, and many chances went begging, our profligacy from last season showing through again. And to those declaring we are back and that our we were solid in defense, please keep in mind we were playing against 10 men for 80 mins. They brought off a midfielder and brought on a defender to replace Shittu, hence our seemingly miraculous ability to dominate possession. Not only that, but our defense had barely anything to do. Of course, I'm happy with the result, but lets not get carried away. We were lucky that Shittu got himself sent off today, and, yes, we took advantage of that luck, but we still have a long way to go. COYH PozzoHornet
  • Score: -1

9:03am Fri 27 Dec 13

Abbots hornet says...

Great game at last some goals to enjoy could easily have been more.Deeney and Fessi were closer together as a strike pair Cassetti was great as well I like the passion this guy has and have my fingers crossed! Thought everyone was focussed.Millwall were terrible but We have changed our tactics and had Anya on the post to clear off the line otherwise they would have equalised Well done Sannino big test on way!
Great game at last some goals to enjoy could easily have been more.Deeney and Fessi were closer together as a strike pair Cassetti was great as well I like the passion this guy has and have my fingers crossed! Thought everyone was focussed.Millwall were terrible but We have changed our tactics and had Anya on the post to clear off the line otherwise they would have equalised Well done Sannino big test on way! Abbots hornet
  • Score: 0

9:54am Fri 27 Dec 13

corbindallas says...

PozzoHornet wrote:
Having seen some of the comments on this page I must say I'm disappointed by how quick people are to praise us. While there were elements which were worthy of praise (Cassetti was generally impressing; Murray made some nice tackles; Thorne's distribution looks to be improving; Deeney's movement and general on pitch attitude was better; men on posts) some of the old problems remain. Ekstrand's first touch was consistently poor and personally, I think he is having a bit of a confidence crisis. Once more, we looked vulnerable from set pieces, with one cleared off the line and another ruled out for offside. Although we scored 4, 2 of them were pens, and many chances went begging, our profligacy from last season showing through again. And to those declaring we are back and that our we were solid in defense, please keep in mind we were playing against 10 men for 80 mins. They brought off a midfielder and brought on a defender to replace Shittu, hence our seemingly miraculous ability to dominate possession. Not only that, but our defense had barely anything to do. Of course, I'm happy with the result, but lets not get carried away. We were lucky that Shittu got himself sent off today, and, yes, we took advantage of that luck, but we still have a long way to go. COYH
I don't think anyone is getting carried away, it is just like the players gaining confidence with results and there is nothing wrong with being positive for the future especially with the New Year on our doorstep! Yes it is early doors but as you highlight there are players gaining the much needed confidence needed to start producing the football we know they are capable of.
[quote][p][bold]PozzoHornet[/bold] wrote: Having seen some of the comments on this page I must say I'm disappointed by how quick people are to praise us. While there were elements which were worthy of praise (Cassetti was generally impressing; Murray made some nice tackles; Thorne's distribution looks to be improving; Deeney's movement and general on pitch attitude was better; men on posts) some of the old problems remain. Ekstrand's first touch was consistently poor and personally, I think he is having a bit of a confidence crisis. Once more, we looked vulnerable from set pieces, with one cleared off the line and another ruled out for offside. Although we scored 4, 2 of them were pens, and many chances went begging, our profligacy from last season showing through again. And to those declaring we are back and that our we were solid in defense, please keep in mind we were playing against 10 men for 80 mins. They brought off a midfielder and brought on a defender to replace Shittu, hence our seemingly miraculous ability to dominate possession. Not only that, but our defense had barely anything to do. Of course, I'm happy with the result, but lets not get carried away. We were lucky that Shittu got himself sent off today, and, yes, we took advantage of that luck, but we still have a long way to go. COYH[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone is getting carried away, it is just like the players gaining confidence with results and there is nothing wrong with being positive for the future especially with the New Year on our doorstep! Yes it is early doors but as you highlight there are players gaining the much needed confidence needed to start producing the football we know they are capable of. corbindallas
  • Score: 4

9:55am Fri 27 Dec 13

Bush Hornet says...

rogeruk wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
Well done HC, do you see what small minded individuals we have on this site, even knowing the truth they cannot admit it! In contant self-denial?
Quite. What sheeple we are Rodge! (monstroustit)
[quote][p][bold]rogeruk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]Well done HC, do you see what small minded individuals we have on this site, even knowing the truth they cannot admit it! In contant self-denial?[/p][/quote]Quite. What sheeple we are Rodge! (monstroustit) Bush Hornet
  • Score: 0

10:11am Fri 27 Dec 13

bristol hornet says...

QPR looked quite average, and very beatable as Forest proved last nite!

No reason why we cannot do the same on Sunday, after our confidence boosting win against the 'Wall.
QPR looked quite average, and very beatable as Forest proved last nite! No reason why we cannot do the same on Sunday, after our confidence boosting win against the 'Wall. bristol hornet
  • Score: 6

1:15pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Boosey says...

bristol hornet wrote:
QPR looked quite average, and very beatable as Forest proved last nite! No reason why we cannot do the same on Sunday, after our confidence boosting win against the 'Wall.
Against the Mill, there was no wall.
Nothing to fear against QPR!
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote: QPR looked quite average, and very beatable as Forest proved last nite! No reason why we cannot do the same on Sunday, after our confidence boosting win against the 'Wall.[/p][/quote]Against the Mill, there was no wall. Nothing to fear against QPR! Boosey
  • Score: 0

4:27pm Fri 27 Dec 13

BryantheOrn says...

Whats all this on here about a point will do against Qtr Pound of Rubbish. We want 3 points, 1-0 will be fine, 8-0 and I'm in Heaven. Rangers are our main rivals with L+t+n mugs off the Planet in Skrill amateur whatever league. Hope the players are aware of local rivalry and we're all up for it! Stuff 'em!!
Whats all this on here about a point will do against Qtr Pound of Rubbish. We want 3 points, 1-0 will be fine, 8-0 and I'm in Heaven. Rangers are our main rivals with L+t+n mugs off the Planet in Skrill amateur whatever league. Hope the players are aware of local rivalry and we're all up for it! Stuff 'em!! BryantheOrn
  • Score: -2

10:26am Sat 28 Dec 13

demerit says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
HC, I don't agree with everything you say, even when you're being serious, but a 75pt minus vote is really telling. It basically means that there are at least 75 absolute numpties out there who are so dim that they can't see through what is one of your more obvious wind-ups!
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]HC, I don't agree with everything you say, even when you're being serious, but a 75pt minus vote is really telling. It basically means that there are at least 75 absolute numpties out there who are so dim that they can't see through what is one of your more obvious wind-ups! demerit
  • Score: 0

5:54pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Harry's Bar says...

Hornet Cornet wrote:
Eastsussexhornet wrote:
Hornet Cornet wrote:
I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory
Quite right, so you should.
We are winners in an ocean of plop
Is it possible that with all your humour and sarcasm you could possibly miss it yourself?
[quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Eastsussexhornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hornet Cornet[/bold] wrote: I will take the credit for forcing the change that led to this victory[/p][/quote]Quite right, so you should.[/p][/quote]We are winners in an ocean of plop[/p][/quote]Is it possible that with all your humour and sarcasm you could possibly miss it yourself? Harry's Bar
  • Score: 1

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