Swansea City have not submitted official bid to Watford for Burnley and Norwich City target Troy Deeney

Watford Observer: Higher: Likes of Burnley would have to bid more than the current figures being reported if they want to secure Troy Deeney's services. Picture: Holly Cant Higher: Likes of Burnley would have to bid more than the current figures being reported if they want to secure Troy Deeney's services. Picture: Holly Cant

Swansea City have not made an official bid for Troy Deeney and reports surfacing today relate to an enquiry made several weeks ago, the Watford Observer understands.

Sky Sports News reported this afternoon the Premier League side had made an offer in excess of £5m for Deeney.

However, we understand today's report relates to a previous enquiry made by Swansea which was immediately rebuffed by the Hornets.

Burnley are the only club to make an official offer and we understand that was an initial fee of around £4.5m with additional add-ons.

Swansea and Norwich City are the other two clubs who have expressed an interest in the player and we understand their enquiries related to a higher fee than Burnley's offer.

Under the Pozzos, Watford are no longer in a position where they have to sell players every summer to balance the books unlike under previous regimes.

It is commonly accepted that all players have a price at which they will be sold but the current £5m figures being mention are significantly less than Watford's valuation of Deeney.

The 26-year-old striker was signed by Malky Mackay for Watford in 2010 but struggled to break into the starting line-up during his first season at the club.

He turned his Watford career around under the guidance of current Burnley boss Sean Dyche.

He scored 11 league goals during the 2011/2012 campaign but the following season went on to strike 20 times in the Championship, alongside Matej Vydra, as the Hornets twice missed out on promotion to the Premier League.

The last campaign was Deeney’s most prolific. He netted 25 goals in 48 matches to become the first player since Luther Blissett to score 20 times in all competitions in consecutive seasons.

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5:08pm Wed 9 Jul 14

SimmyB says...

Phew! Its only a matter of time though guys in my opinion
Phew! Its only a matter of time though guys in my opinion SimmyB
  • Score: -6

5:10pm Wed 9 Jul 14

MikeS says...

As long as we get what Troy's worth then I don't think we can argue, he deserves his chance at a crack at the Prem!
As long as we get what Troy's worth then I don't think we can argue, he deserves his chance at a crack at the Prem! MikeS
  • Score: 13

5:11pm Wed 9 Jul 14

MikeS says...

...and going by McCormack's value we should be holding out for the £10m mark, although doubt it'll go that high
...and going by McCormack's value we should be holding out for the £10m mark, although doubt it'll go that high MikeS
  • Score: 6

5:12pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Poppet Bear says...

Surely he wouldn't go to Norwich, would he ?
Surely he wouldn't go to Norwich, would he ? Poppet Bear
  • Score: 6

5:14pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Surbiton says...

Come on Pozzo's show us you are really serious about promotion. £120million is far more than the fee you will get for Deeney Kill off all speculation and interest and say he is not for sale, period!
Come on Pozzo's show us you are really serious about promotion. £120million is far more than the fee you will get for Deeney Kill off all speculation and interest and say he is not for sale, period! Surbiton
  • Score: 33

5:14pm Wed 9 Jul 14

MK Hornet Steve says...

Typical lazy journalism from Sky
Typical lazy journalism from Sky MK Hornet Steve
  • Score: 15

5:19pm Wed 9 Jul 14

tonupchris says...

Don't really see him leaving for another Championship side, neither do I think that any Championship side will be able to match our value. Not sure how much the club think he's worth but McCormack going for £11m will certainly give them an indication of his worth. To be fair over £10m would be very difficult to turn down
Don't really see him leaving for another Championship side, neither do I think that any Championship side will be able to match our value. Not sure how much the club think he's worth but McCormack going for £11m will certainly give them an indication of his worth. To be fair over £10m would be very difficult to turn down tonupchris
  • Score: 15

5:22pm Wed 9 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

Given the valuation of McCormack may be £10m is not unachievable. As the article states we are no longer in a position where we have to sell to make ends meet.

Troy has 2 years left on his contract, does not have a desire to leave and there are many clubs linked.... Norwich, Burnley, Swansea, Villa, Newcastle mentioned, so could be a bidding war. The law of supply and demand should push up the price.

But may be Gino, Nani etc see Troy as central to our promotion push, if so they do not have to sell if they do not want to.

Personally I would offer him a contract extension and give him the challenge and responsibility of captain, setting him the goal of leading the side to promotion. In the last 2 years or so (since his prison sentence) Troy has risen to just about every challenge, I am sure he would relish that one, becoming a hornet legend in the process.
Given the valuation of McCormack may be £10m is not unachievable. As the article states we are no longer in a position where we have to sell to make ends meet. Troy has 2 years left on his contract, does not have a desire to leave and there are many clubs linked.... Norwich, Burnley, Swansea, Villa, Newcastle mentioned, so could be a bidding war. The law of supply and demand should push up the price. But may be Gino, Nani etc see Troy as central to our promotion push, if so they do not have to sell if they do not want to. Personally I would offer him a contract extension and give him the challenge and responsibility of captain, setting him the goal of leading the side to promotion. In the last 2 years or so (since his prison sentence) Troy has risen to just about every challenge, I am sure he would relish that one, becoming a hornet legend in the process. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 59

5:26pm Wed 9 Jul 14

weeblehorn says...

Surbiton wrote:
Come on Pozzo's show us you are really serious about promotion. £120million is far more than the fee you will get for Deeney Kill off all speculation and interest and say he is not for sale, period!
Totally agree. The Pozzo's want Watford playing in the premier league. Where is the sense in selling a 25 goal a season player who is exactly what any serious championship team needs to gain promotion. IMO selling him is just shooting ourselves in the foot.
[quote][p][bold]Surbiton[/bold] wrote: Come on Pozzo's show us you are really serious about promotion. £120million is far more than the fee you will get for Deeney Kill off all speculation and interest and say he is not for sale, period![/p][/quote]Totally agree. The Pozzo's want Watford playing in the premier league. Where is the sense in selling a 25 goal a season player who is exactly what any serious championship team needs to gain promotion. IMO selling him is just shooting ourselves in the foot. weeblehorn
  • Score: 26

5:36pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Buenos Aires Hornet says...

Luckily back in the darker days around 2010, Elton John played that concert with part of the money raised going towards buying Deeney. This has helped us to be able to be in this situation of gaining millions. The legend of Elton lives on!
Luckily back in the darker days around 2010, Elton John played that concert with part of the money raised going towards buying Deeney. This has helped us to be able to be in this situation of gaining millions. The legend of Elton lives on! Buenos Aires Hornet
  • Score: 71

5:54pm Wed 9 Jul 14

bornyellow says...

One more season...getting promoted is worth much more than the sale of Deeney whether it be 6, 7 or 10 million.....if we dont achieve our aim than we can think about it...deeney to stay....please!
One more season...getting promoted is worth much more than the sale of Deeney whether it be 6, 7 or 10 million.....if we dont achieve our aim than we can think about it...deeney to stay....please! bornyellow
  • Score: 20

5:54pm Wed 9 Jul 14

endean2 says...

Buenos Aires Hornet wrote:
Luckily back in the darker days around 2010, Elton John played that concert with part of the money raised going towards buying Deeney. This has helped us to be able to be in this situation of gaining millions. The legend of Elton lives on!
nice one
[quote][p][bold]Buenos Aires Hornet[/bold] wrote: Luckily back in the darker days around 2010, Elton John played that concert with part of the money raised going towards buying Deeney. This has helped us to be able to be in this situation of gaining millions. The legend of Elton lives on![/p][/quote]nice one endean2
  • Score: 12

6:09pm Wed 9 Jul 14

McClelland the Legend says...

Got to be worth more than the 11 Million for McCormack. If Troy wants to go, and the money is right, then so be it!
Got to be worth more than the 11 Million for McCormack. If Troy wants to go, and the money is right, then so be it! McClelland the Legend
  • Score: 4

6:50pm Wed 9 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Burnley offered £4.5 million?? Derisory at best, however MaCormack's fee is an initial £7 million with adds-on so the £11 million reported is a bit misleading. I'm not sure anyone in the C'ship or P'ship will bid what The Pozzos think he's worth, especially taking into consideration the overall MaCormack deal, him going to Fulham for such a big fee must put us in a good position whether we sell or not
Burnley offered £4.5 million?? Derisory at best, however MaCormack's fee is an initial £7 million with adds-on so the £11 million reported is a bit misleading. I'm not sure anyone in the C'ship or P'ship will bid what The Pozzos think he's worth, especially taking into consideration the overall MaCormack deal, him going to Fulham for such a big fee must put us in a good position whether we sell or not lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 4

6:52pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Drewoneone says...

If Troy goes to any of the clubs mentioned (maybe not Newcastle) then he is taking as big a risk as staying at Watford. All the others are relegation candidates who would almost certainly write a relegation clause into his contract, so possibly he might get one season on big wages. Norwich are by no means certs for promotion either (Sky Bet offering 3/1).

Staying at Watford would mean he is a nailed on certainty to start every game, would probably be made captain and possibly get an enhanced contract offer. He is already settled with the Hornets and is a fans favourite, as well as knowing the majority of the squad.

If we do achieve promotion can you imagine the investment the Pozzos would then put into the Club? They have achieved that with Udinese and Granada and ensured they are going to stay in the top tier (bit close for Granada last season admittedly!). The rewards in the PL are far greater than in Serie A and La Liga so I wouldn't be surprised if Watford became the prime club in the Pozzo empire. Troy would have a solid future at a club going places.

Getting promotion next season is still a massive ask, but Troy needs to weigh this all up.

I am, of course, hugely biased and want Troy to stay, so some of the above may be slightly skewed towards him making the decision I would like!

If he goes then I still trust the Pozzos to come up with an excellent solution
If Troy goes to any of the clubs mentioned (maybe not Newcastle) then he is taking as big a risk as staying at Watford. All the others are relegation candidates who would almost certainly write a relegation clause into his contract, so possibly he might get one season on big wages. Norwich are by no means certs for promotion either (Sky Bet offering 3/1). Staying at Watford would mean he is a nailed on certainty to start every game, would probably be made captain and possibly get an enhanced contract offer. He is already settled with the Hornets and is a fans favourite, as well as knowing the majority of the squad. If we do achieve promotion can you imagine the investment the Pozzos would then put into the Club? They have achieved that with Udinese and Granada and ensured they are going to stay in the top tier (bit close for Granada last season admittedly!). The rewards in the PL are far greater than in Serie A and La Liga so I wouldn't be surprised if Watford became the prime club in the Pozzo empire. Troy would have a solid future at a club going places. Getting promotion next season is still a massive ask, but Troy needs to weigh this all up. I am, of course, hugely biased and want Troy to stay, so some of the above may be slightly skewed towards him making the decision I would like! If he goes then I still trust the Pozzos to come up with an excellent solution Drewoneone
  • Score: 27

8:14pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Victory Yellow says...

Anyone form the club reading this will know how much we want to keep Deeney. If we are to get promoted and the money avaliable for getting promoted, its a non starter 7Mill now or 120 on promotion. If we sell we need a new striker who can score goals and hit the ground running. Danny Graham is not going to get 25 goals. Deeney has a good partnership with Vydra already and is the life and soul of the dressing room. We must keep him now if at Christmas its not going well sell him we will still get 6-7Mil, but I think if we keep him we are set for automatic promotion this year. Vydra alone although a class act may not be enough. Sell Deeney and i fear we will rue the day come May!
Anyone form the club reading this will know how much we want to keep Deeney. If we are to get promoted and the money avaliable for getting promoted, its a non starter 7Mill now or 120 on promotion. If we sell we need a new striker who can score goals and hit the ground running. Danny Graham is not going to get 25 goals. Deeney has a good partnership with Vydra already and is the life and soul of the dressing room. We must keep him now if at Christmas its not going well sell him we will still get 6-7Mil, but I think if we keep him we are set for automatic promotion this year. Vydra alone although a class act may not be enough. Sell Deeney and i fear we will rue the day come May! Victory Yellow
  • Score: 7

8:38pm Wed 9 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Poppet Bear wrote:
Surely he wouldn't go to Norwich, would he ?
I think all TD wants to do is sit back and if the club accept an offer that it is from a club in the midlands. Swansea & Norwich means relocating so non starters.
[quote][p][bold]Poppet Bear[/bold] wrote: Surely he wouldn't go to Norwich, would he ?[/p][/quote]I think all TD wants to do is sit back and if the club accept an offer that it is from a club in the midlands. Swansea & Norwich means relocating so non starters. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 3

8:48pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Nick El Greco says...

He is only just 26 so this is not his one big chance at the Premiership. If he has a 3rd year of 20+ AND we get promoted, he will undoubtedly attract the attention of better clubs and will attract higher bids and the offer of much better wages if we are unwilling to pay him enough

He's not even in his prime yet and i will be surprised if we sell before he's reached his maximum value
He is only just 26 so this is not his one big chance at the Premiership. If he has a 3rd year of 20+ AND we get promoted, he will undoubtedly attract the attention of better clubs and will attract higher bids and the offer of much better wages if we are unwilling to pay him enough He's not even in his prime yet and i will be surprised if we sell before he's reached his maximum value Nick El Greco
  • Score: 5

9:19pm Wed 9 Jul 14

EltonForever says...

endean2 wrote:
Buenos Aires Hornet wrote:
Luckily back in the darker days around 2010, Elton John played that concert with part of the money raised going towards buying Deeney. This has helped us to be able to be in this situation of gaining millions. The legend of Elton lives on!
nice one
Thanks very much, endean 2.

Obviously I agree with you!!
[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buenos Aires Hornet[/bold] wrote: Luckily back in the darker days around 2010, Elton John played that concert with part of the money raised going towards buying Deeney. This has helped us to be able to be in this situation of gaining millions. The legend of Elton lives on![/p][/quote]nice one[/p][/quote]Thanks very much, endean 2. Obviously I agree with you!! EltonForever
  • Score: 2

11:57pm Wed 9 Jul 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

This is when the Pozzos call Deeney into their office, offers him a 3 year deal with doubled wages and a captaincy. Just the loss of Deeney makes our squad look so much more vulnerable.
This is when the Pozzos call Deeney into their office, offers him a 3 year deal with doubled wages and a captaincy. Just the loss of Deeney makes our squad look so much more vulnerable. The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 5

1:15am Thu 10 Jul 14

bushey tales says...

All this talk about how 'Deeney must stay' is very touching but we must get real and start to appreciate the Pozzo model. Buy cheap, develop and sell high. It's what they do. So far it's pretty much all been one-way. They've delivered a better class of player, built the stand we've craved for years and re-based the club after the calamitous Stanmore Chancer. But these people are not mindless benefactors, they're serious players with an established business template. We weren't bought by some latter-day Elton, prepared to invest without any real return, but by hard-nosed Italian businessmen who know what they're doing. If they get what they judge a realistic offer for Deeney then he'll go - and quite right too.
All this talk about how 'Deeney must stay' is very touching but we must get real and start to appreciate the Pozzo model. Buy cheap, develop and sell high. It's what they do. So far it's pretty much all been one-way. They've delivered a better class of player, built the stand we've craved for years and re-based the club after the calamitous Stanmore Chancer. But these people are not mindless benefactors, they're serious players with an established business template. We weren't bought by some latter-day Elton, prepared to invest without any real return, but by hard-nosed Italian businessmen who know what they're doing. If they get what they judge a realistic offer for Deeney then he'll go - and quite right too. bushey tales
  • Score: 14

5:42am Thu 10 Jul 14

Tonytheaceman says...

MikeS wrote:
As long as we get what Troy's worth then I don't think we can argue, he deserves his chance at a crack at the Prem!
Be patient Troy - you will play in the prem with the "orns
[quote][p][bold]MikeS[/bold] wrote: As long as we get what Troy's worth then I don't think we can argue, he deserves his chance at a crack at the Prem![/p][/quote]Be patient Troy - you will play in the prem with the "orns Tonytheaceman
  • Score: 2

8:58am Thu 10 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

bushey tales wrote:
All this talk about how 'Deeney must stay' is very touching but we must get real and start to appreciate the Pozzo model. Buy cheap, develop and sell high. It's what they do. So far it's pretty much all been one-way. They've delivered a better class of player, built the stand we've craved for years and re-based the club after the calamitous Stanmore Chancer. But these people are not mindless benefactors, they're serious players with an established business template. We weren't bought by some latter-day Elton, prepared to invest without any real return, but by hard-nosed Italian businessmen who know what they're doing. If they get what they judge a realistic offer for Deeney then he'll go - and quite right too.
I agree with that, right up to the very last bit. As others have said, with £120m at stake why not forego the £7m and go for the big prize. I know that's a gamble but businessmen take risks too.
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: All this talk about how 'Deeney must stay' is very touching but we must get real and start to appreciate the Pozzo model. Buy cheap, develop and sell high. It's what they do. So far it's pretty much all been one-way. They've delivered a better class of player, built the stand we've craved for years and re-based the club after the calamitous Stanmore Chancer. But these people are not mindless benefactors, they're serious players with an established business template. We weren't bought by some latter-day Elton, prepared to invest without any real return, but by hard-nosed Italian businessmen who know what they're doing. If they get what they judge a realistic offer for Deeney then he'll go - and quite right too.[/p][/quote]I agree with that, right up to the very last bit. As others have said, with £120m at stake why not forego the £7m and go for the big prize. I know that's a gamble but businessmen take risks too. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 6

9:31am Thu 10 Jul 14

Denzil D says...

bushey tales wrote:
All this talk about how 'Deeney must stay' is very touching but we must get real and start to appreciate the Pozzo model. Buy cheap, develop and sell high. It's what they do. So far it's pretty much all been one-way. They've delivered a better class of player, built the stand we've craved for years and re-based the club after the calamitous Stanmore Chancer. But these people are not mindless benefactors, they're serious players with an established business template. We weren't bought by some latter-day Elton, prepared to invest without any real return, but by hard-nosed Italian businessmen who know what they're doing. If they get what they judge a realistic offer for Deeney then he'll go - and quite right too.
Yes, the Pozzo model is motivated by profit, but in the long run. The big return comes from getting us in the PL and as soon as possible.
Assuming Deeney doesn't 'demand' a move this summer, maximising his transfer value is only a part of the equation. Say you estimate we have a 25% chance of promotion with DT but only a 15% chance without him, he has a 'value' to us of about £10m over the coming season.
Plus, if we do go up, Troy's transfer price will be much more as a Prem player.
So, as his value to us is more than anyone else will likely pay for him right now, and he seems to be happy to stay, i don't think he'll be sold.

...cue next Wobby article: "Deeney signs 4-year deal with Toon"!!
[quote][p][bold]bushey tales[/bold] wrote: All this talk about how 'Deeney must stay' is very touching but we must get real and start to appreciate the Pozzo model. Buy cheap, develop and sell high. It's what they do. So far it's pretty much all been one-way. They've delivered a better class of player, built the stand we've craved for years and re-based the club after the calamitous Stanmore Chancer. But these people are not mindless benefactors, they're serious players with an established business template. We weren't bought by some latter-day Elton, prepared to invest without any real return, but by hard-nosed Italian businessmen who know what they're doing. If they get what they judge a realistic offer for Deeney then he'll go - and quite right too.[/p][/quote]Yes, the Pozzo model is motivated by profit, but in the long run. The big return comes from getting us in the PL and as soon as possible. Assuming Deeney doesn't 'demand' a move this summer, maximising his transfer value is only a part of the equation. Say you estimate we have a 25% chance of promotion with DT but only a 15% chance without him, he has a 'value' to us of about £10m over the coming season. Plus, if we do go up, Troy's transfer price will be much more as a Prem player. So, as his value to us is more than anyone else will likely pay for him right now, and he seems to be happy to stay, i don't think he'll be sold. ...cue next Wobby article: "Deeney signs 4-year deal with Toon"!! Denzil D
  • Score: 5

11:07am Thu 10 Jul 14

corey_wfc says...

Am I the only one who is quietly confident of keeping hold of Troy?
He won't go to another Championship club (especially not Leeds, are their fans having a laugh? Or do they genuinly think they have a hope in hell of signing Deeney?).
Burnley seem to be way shy of the clubs valuation, Swansea haven't submitted a formal bid and enquired weeks ago...if they haven't bid weeks after enquiring, I'm inclined to think that they believe he is overpriced (he's not...) & Newcastle have been extremely quiet if they are indeed interested in him.
Whatever happens we will be fine. We'll either have a fantastic striker, or a massive cash injection.
We've already signed a 20 goal striker in the form of Matej Vydra and I reckon this will be the year we see exactly what Messi... I mean, Foristeri can do.
I'm not worried at all...
Am I the only one who is quietly confident of keeping hold of Troy? He won't go to another Championship club (especially not Leeds, are their fans having a laugh? Or do they genuinly think they have a hope in hell of signing Deeney?). Burnley seem to be way shy of the clubs valuation, Swansea haven't submitted a formal bid and enquired weeks ago...if they haven't bid weeks after enquiring, I'm inclined to think that they believe he is overpriced (he's not...) & Newcastle have been extremely quiet if they are indeed interested in him. Whatever happens we will be fine. We'll either have a fantastic striker, or a massive cash injection. We've already signed a 20 goal striker in the form of Matej Vydra and I reckon this will be the year we see exactly what Messi... I mean, Foristeri can do. I'm not worried at all... corey_wfc
  • Score: 6

11:15am Thu 10 Jul 14

Bush Hornet says...

I'm impressed with Deeney's ability to keep his mouth shut over the whole thing, apart from saying he likes Watford and he'll only go if the market makes it happen. And I'm glad he doesn't seem to have a bellend of an agent. Perhaps Deeney's agent, whoever he is, could take a new client in Matej Vydra.
I'm impressed with Deeney's ability to keep his mouth shut over the whole thing, apart from saying he likes Watford and he'll only go if the market makes it happen. And I'm glad he doesn't seem to have a bellend of an agent. Perhaps Deeney's agent, whoever he is, could take a new client in Matej Vydra. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 13

6:20pm Thu 10 Jul 14

MainStandShambles says...

IF Deeney should leave (and it is a big IF) i wonder how Vydra would fair alongside Ranegie in the good old big man/little man scenario.

I noticed that Vydra went off at h/t in the last match while Renegie came on at h/t. I hope Sannino gives it a try sometime during pre-season.
IF Deeney should leave (and it is a big IF) i wonder how Vydra would fair alongside Ranegie in the good old big man/little man scenario. I noticed that Vydra went off at h/t in the last match while Renegie came on at h/t. I hope Sannino gives it a try sometime during pre-season. MainStandShambles
  • Score: 1

8:13pm Thu 10 Jul 14

ORBY says...

I see the Mail is still saying Swansea have made a £5m bid for Deeney. Why should we sell at a cheap price only for Swansea to sell him on later for much more-as they did with Danny Graham. Keep him and make sure we make the PL on our own devices. Rock On!
I see the Mail is still saying Swansea have made a £5m bid for Deeney. Why should we sell at a cheap price only for Swansea to sell him on later for much more-as they did with Danny Graham. Keep him and make sure we make the PL on our own devices. Rock On! ORBY
  • Score: 0
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