Watford striker Ogo Obi - a one time target of Liverpool and Arsenal - on trial at Manchester United

Ogo Obi collecting his Golden Boot trophy at last summer's Milk Cup. Picture: Milk Cup.

Ogo Obi collecting his Golden Boot trophy at last summer's Milk Cup. Picture: Milk Cup.

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The Hornets' schoolboy striker Ogo Obi is currently on trial at Premier League side Manchester United, the Watford Observer understands.

Watford have been in talks with the 16-year-old for several months over a scholarship with a one-year professional contract attached but an agreement has yet to be reached.

Obi appears to be looking for other options and is currently training with United after being given permission by his parent club. 

Should he leave the Golden Boys, the Hertfordshire club would be owed compensation due to the player's age.

The Hornets announced the names of their first-year scholars for this season in their Ipswich Town match day programme on April 19 but Obi was not listed.

Watford did confirm at the beginning of May that they were still in talks with him over a scholarship.

Last summer Obi scored ten goals in five games during the Milk Cup Junior Section to win the competition's Golden Boot, which resulted in a couple of national newspapers claiming Arsenal and Liverpool were interested in the then 15-year-old.

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6:15pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Elswickhornet says...

Get Udinese to sign him up and then loan him back in a few years...
Get Udinese to sign him up and then loan him back in a few years... Elswickhornet
  • Score: 37

7:09pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Stewbyhorn1 says...

Just a word of warning Obi, a few years ago a certain Harry Forrester left us the day he was due to sign his contract and went to Aston Villa. Look what happened to him and he was tipped to be the next big thing in English football.
Just a word of warning Obi, a few years ago a certain Harry Forrester left us the day he was due to sign his contract and went to Aston Villa. Look what happened to him and he was tipped to be the next big thing in English football. Stewbyhorn1
  • Score: 72

8:38pm Tue 15 Jul 14

PozzoHornet says...

Darn. Nothing we can do if he wants to leave, I guess. Just got to hope that United reject him.
Darn. Nothing we can do if he wants to leave, I guess. Just got to hope that United reject him. PozzoHornet
  • Score: 1

8:44pm Tue 15 Jul 14

AlanMayeshasscored says...

He will just be one of hundreds of youngsters at united, he will sink like a stone. He would be miles better staying and going out on loan to the likes of Wealdstone, couple of years time he would be in a better position to strike for a place in the squad. Trouble is these youngsters think they are better than they are, all they want is all the trappings of a Premier League player when they are not out of short trousers. Hope he learns a hard lesson.
He will just be one of hundreds of youngsters at united, he will sink like a stone. He would be miles better staying and going out on loan to the likes of Wealdstone, couple of years time he would be in a better position to strike for a place in the squad. Trouble is these youngsters think they are better than they are, all they want is all the trappings of a Premier League player when they are not out of short trousers. Hope he learns a hard lesson. AlanMayeshasscored
  • Score: 21

9:05pm Tue 15 Jul 14

bornyellow says...

he is only on trial stage so lets see what happens.....
he is only on trial stage so lets see what happens..... bornyellow
  • Score: 6

10:02pm Tue 15 Jul 14

matey_from_brighton says...

maybe he can get to play in the B team league against Luton.
maybe he can get to play in the B team league against Luton. matey_from_brighton
  • Score: 3

10:17pm Tue 15 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Merchandise United turn the heads of these young lads and the rules mean they can take our talent in return for sweet fanny adams.

I had hoped their 7th place finish and nothing in the trophy cabinet but a dead fly would make them mortal - but now Addidas are paying them £750m over ten years to merchandise their kit. Vulgar.

They can make what money they like but tapping up the talent we find makes them greedy ar5eholes.
Merchandise United turn the heads of these young lads and the rules mean they can take our talent in return for sweet fanny adams. I had hoped their 7th place finish and nothing in the trophy cabinet but a dead fly would make them mortal - but now Addidas are paying them £750m over ten years to merchandise their kit. Vulgar. They can make what money they like but tapping up the talent we find makes them greedy ar5eholes. gloryhornet4
  • Score: 16

10:55pm Tue 15 Jul 14

Ramageland says...

If you are good enough then you will end up playing at the top in the end. Going to a 'big' club at the first opportunity, and long before you are ready, is typical of English kids chasing potential pounds rather than looking at where they are actually better off. Obviously that is a generalisation but since England's 'top' players seem more interested in money and fame than being good footballers, forgive me for being a bit cynical!
If you are good enough then you will end up playing at the top in the end. Going to a 'big' club at the first opportunity, and long before you are ready, is typical of English kids chasing potential pounds rather than looking at where they are actually better off. Obviously that is a generalisation but since England's 'top' players seem more interested in money and fame than being good footballers, forgive me for being a bit cynical! Ramageland
  • Score: 36

12:08am Wed 16 Jul 14

Sydneyhornet says...

What really frustrates me is what are the agents, advisers telling the lad? While it can be seen as a place to head, best facilities, better outcomes, best opportunity. Do they also say, for every Scholes, Becks etc there were 200 other lads that were cast off. I wonder what the trainer to player ratio really is.

Large clubs love you, until they have not use for you.

Its a larger question as well, just look at England.

The icing on the cake is those young English lads that get lost in the systems, this fella should look at Jack Rodwell as an example, first team Everton? Lost at City, Milner to a lesser extent, bench warmer, Young, Bench warmer, Cleverly, needs to leave, the list is endless.

Agents and advisers need to actually give independent advice.

Mine to Ogo - Look objectively, ask what you get, what football experience your going to get, security, access to training equipment - not as if RVP is going to move for you? Whats the rush???
What really frustrates me is what are the agents, advisers telling the lad? While it can be seen as a place to head, best facilities, better outcomes, best opportunity. Do they also say, for every Scholes, Becks etc there were 200 other lads that were cast off. I wonder what the trainer to player ratio really is. Large clubs love you, until they have not use for you. Its a larger question as well, just look at England. The icing on the cake is those young English lads that get lost in the systems, this fella should look at Jack Rodwell as an example, first team Everton? Lost at City, Milner to a lesser extent, bench warmer, Young, Bench warmer, Cleverly, needs to leave, the list is endless. Agents and advisers need to actually give independent advice. Mine to Ogo - Look objectively, ask what you get, what football experience your going to get, security, access to training equipment - not as if RVP is going to move for you? Whats the rush??? Sydneyhornet
  • Score: 12

1:17am Wed 16 Jul 14

londomollari says...

Ogo! If they take you on, you will spend years playing in the youth team and the chances are, if you are of decent Championship standard, you will spend several years playing in the stiffs, then, when you are 20/21, you get loaned out to a lower league side before being released when you are 21 with only a handful of competitive games behind you (Ask Reece Brown!)
If you are only a middling standard Premiership player it will be about the same---you might get a couple of games, and sit on the subs bench---that will be about it. Ask Chris Eagles.
Whilst if you had stayed at Watford, or another Championship club, if you are Championship standard, you would reach 21 with 50 or more games behind you, a good career and good money. Have a word with Hoban, Murray.
Unless you are something really, really special, you will be just a number
Ogo! If they take you on, you will spend years playing in the youth team and the chances are, if you are of decent Championship standard, you will spend several years playing in the stiffs, then, when you are 20/21, you get loaned out to a lower league side before being released when you are 21 with only a handful of competitive games behind you (Ask Reece Brown!) If you are only a middling standard Premiership player it will be about the same---you might get a couple of games, and sit on the subs bench---that will be about it. Ask Chris Eagles. Whilst if you had stayed at Watford, or another Championship club, if you are Championship standard, you would reach 21 with 50 or more games behind you, a good career and good money. Have a word with Hoban, Murray. Unless you are something really, really special, you will be just a number londomollari
  • Score: 21

8:56am Wed 16 Jul 14

Travelling Hornet says...

We can't be sure to know all details of this lads reluctance to sign for us in favour of Man U, but I bet a huge financial inducement for him, his family and more poiniently , his agent is the main factor.
I don't know the lads background and it is shortsighted for his career but how do you turn down a lump of money that could rival a lottery win that would give him financial security .
Of course it shouldn't be allowed to happen and this situation is one of the reasons for the demise of good young home grown talent not fulfilling it's potential .
We can't be sure to know all details of this lads reluctance to sign for us in favour of Man U, but I bet a huge financial inducement for him, his family and more poiniently , his agent is the main factor. I don't know the lads background and it is shortsighted for his career but how do you turn down a lump of money that could rival a lottery win that would give him financial security . Of course it shouldn't be allowed to happen and this situation is one of the reasons for the demise of good young home grown talent not fulfilling it's potential . Travelling Hornet
  • Score: 5

9:03am Wed 16 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

AlanMayeshasscored wrote:
He will just be one of hundreds of youngsters at united, he will sink like a stone. He would be miles better staying and going out on loan to the likes of Wealdstone, couple of years time he would be in a better position to strike for a place in the squad. Trouble is these youngsters think they are better than they are, all they want is all the trappings of a Premier League player when they are not out of short trousers. Hope he learns a hard lesson.
When you're 16 years old and someone gives you a choice between Manchester United or Wealdstone on loan it could be difficult to see the bigger picture. Expensive cars, flash clothes, photo shoots, girls, nightclubs.....sound
s quite tempting... where's my pen.
[quote][p][bold]AlanMayeshasscored[/bold] wrote: He will just be one of hundreds of youngsters at united, he will sink like a stone. He would be miles better staying and going out on loan to the likes of Wealdstone, couple of years time he would be in a better position to strike for a place in the squad. Trouble is these youngsters think they are better than they are, all they want is all the trappings of a Premier League player when they are not out of short trousers. Hope he learns a hard lesson.[/p][/quote]When you're 16 years old and someone gives you a choice between Manchester United or Wealdstone on loan it could be difficult to see the bigger picture. Expensive cars, flash clothes, photo shoots, girls, nightclubs.....sound s quite tempting... where's my pen. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 4

9:19am Wed 16 Jul 14

HornetJJ says...

Silly move leaving Watford. He has first hand evidence that if you are good enough at Watford you will definitely get a chance in the first team. If he does choose United (if they want him) he will get a couple of rounds per season in the League Cup if he's lucky. Whoever is advising him is doing a terrible job!
Silly move leaving Watford. He has first hand evidence that if you are good enough at Watford you will definitely get a chance in the first team. If he does choose United (if they want him) he will get a couple of rounds per season in the League Cup if he's lucky. Whoever is advising him is doing a terrible job! HornetJJ
  • Score: 4

9:44am Wed 16 Jul 14

gloryhornet4 says...

Ramageland wrote:
If you are good enough then you will end up playing at the top in the end. Going to a 'big' club at the first opportunity, and long before you are ready, is typical of English kids chasing potential pounds rather than looking at where they are actually better off. Obviously that is a generalisation but since England's 'top' players seem more interested in money and fame than being good footballers, forgive me for being a bit cynical!
Spot on.

Salary + image rights + marketing = no time to develop as a person or player and certainly coming up short in World Cups
[quote][p][bold]Ramageland[/bold] wrote: If you are good enough then you will end up playing at the top in the end. Going to a 'big' club at the first opportunity, and long before you are ready, is typical of English kids chasing potential pounds rather than looking at where they are actually better off. Obviously that is a generalisation but since England's 'top' players seem more interested in money and fame than being good footballers, forgive me for being a bit cynical![/p][/quote]Spot on. Salary + image rights + marketing = no time to develop as a person or player and certainly coming up short in World Cups gloryhornet4
  • Score: 8

10:03am Wed 16 Jul 14

corbindallas says...

Seriously people if he thinks it is a better move for him then who are we to say not. At the end of the day my favourite saying comes into play 'common sense is not as common as it used to be' put yourself in his position, he is young and has a big club sniffing around of course he would have his head turned, also we pay £100 a week ManU pay £1000 and with players coming in like 18 years old Nathaniel from Chelsea picking up £30k a week just in salary not including all the other perks of sponsorship etc young players will take that gamble even knowing common sense say they would probably be better of staying put. all I say to him is good luck. Also as a side line question to ask yourselves, if it was Watford taking a youngster from a lower tier club would we think this a good move, possibly 2 years ago it would have been but with the clubs new resources will the new youth get as fairer shot in our team, I doubt it!
Seriously people if he thinks it is a better move for him then who are we to say not. At the end of the day my favourite saying comes into play 'common sense is not as common as it used to be' put yourself in his position, he is young and has a big club sniffing around of course he would have his head turned, also we pay £100 a week ManU pay £1000 and with players coming in like 18 years old Nathaniel from Chelsea picking up £30k a week just in salary not including all the other perks of sponsorship etc young players will take that gamble even knowing common sense say they would probably be better of staying put. all I say to him is good luck. Also as a side line question to ask yourselves, if it was Watford taking a youngster from a lower tier club would we think this a good move, possibly 2 years ago it would have been but with the clubs new resources will the new youth get as fairer shot in our team, I doubt it! corbindallas
  • Score: 6

10:25am Wed 16 Jul 14

Wooter bout that! says...

Badly advised/ignorant...
Badly advised/ignorant... Wooter bout that!
  • Score: -1

10:36am Wed 16 Jul 14

jasonwatford says...

I doubt he will get on at United , He is a lazy player however one of those strikers who is in right place at right time. He does have an agent whose demands for a young player are ridicules and then would make all the other scholars demand better deals etc. Kids do get told the pitfalls of going to big clubs however they are promised the earth by these big clubs and told they are the best. My advice would be stay at little Watford make 50 games and score 30 goals and the we will happily sell you to Man U for £10 million.
I doubt he will get on at United , He is a lazy player however one of those strikers who is in right place at right time. He does have an agent whose demands for a young player are ridicules and then would make all the other scholars demand better deals etc. Kids do get told the pitfalls of going to big clubs however they are promised the earth by these big clubs and told they are the best. My advice would be stay at little Watford make 50 games and score 30 goals and the we will happily sell you to Man U for £10 million. jasonwatford
  • Score: 2

11:05am Wed 16 Jul 14

jalvin says...

Deeney went on trial in Birmingham a little while back and it's worked out ok for him...
Deeney went on trial in Birmingham a little while back and it's worked out ok for him... jalvin
  • Score: 2

11:08am Wed 16 Jul 14

Buenos Aires Hornet says...

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  • Score: -1

11:42am Wed 16 Jul 14

Chris the Vic says...

At the end of the day he has indicated he wants glamour.

I am struggling to think of any young british players who have made it through the United ranks or many for that matter through to any of the top teams and played on a regular basis

Yet it is possible if your career is planned and CARED about.

Ashley Young would be one at Villa and maybe the outstanding club are the saints. Walcott, Oxlade C, Bale. Llallana and maybe Luke Shaw.

Not sure United for a young man offer half the chances the Udinese set up would but Agents and money talk, then when they get the money the desire diminishes and so does their carrer.
At the end of the day he has indicated he wants glamour. I am struggling to think of any young british players who have made it through the United ranks or many for that matter through to any of the top teams and played on a regular basis Yet it is possible if your career is planned and CARED about. Ashley Young would be one at Villa and maybe the outstanding club are the saints. Walcott, Oxlade C, Bale. Llallana and maybe Luke Shaw. Not sure United for a young man offer half the chances the Udinese set up would but Agents and money talk, then when they get the money the desire diminishes and so does their carrer. Chris the Vic
  • Score: 3

1:26pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Poppet Bear says...

AlanMayeshasscored wrote:
He will just be one of hundreds of youngsters at united, he will sink like a stone. He would be miles better staying and going out on loan to the likes of Wealdstone, couple of years time he would be in a better position to strike for a place in the squad. Trouble is these youngsters think they are better than they are, all they want is all the trappings of a Premier League player when they are not out of short trousers. Hope he learns a hard lesson.
Absolutely , he'd be far better off with a team like Watford , at United he'll get swallowed up and spat out. Let's hope he stays with us.
[quote][p][bold]AlanMayeshasscored[/bold] wrote: He will just be one of hundreds of youngsters at united, he will sink like a stone. He would be miles better staying and going out on loan to the likes of Wealdstone, couple of years time he would be in a better position to strike for a place in the squad. Trouble is these youngsters think they are better than they are, all they want is all the trappings of a Premier League player when they are not out of short trousers. Hope he learns a hard lesson.[/p][/quote]Absolutely , he'd be far better off with a team like Watford , at United he'll get swallowed up and spat out. Let's hope he stays with us. Poppet Bear
  • Score: 0

1:27pm Wed 16 Jul 14

soulfulhornet says...

Sadly this proves the point I was making on the thread that followed Frank's piece on the Pozzos. The Elite Performance Plan endorses the accumulation of the best/ better talent from the UK by the bigger clubs. That will now leave the crumbs for clubs like ours, Middlesborough, Crewe, Ipswich, Palace etc that have had a history and culture of youth development.

As I said in the other thread are we to rely primarily on those players we can get that are possibly Championship level at best but more probably League 1 and below ? It makes the Pozzo approach even more sensible.

If Ogo decides to go United (if offered a contract), I wish him all the best. There is no way we can compete with United - in terms of money, glamour etc, only that he is likely to get more opportunity with us, but that probably won't be enough.
Sadly this proves the point I was making on the thread that followed Frank's piece on the Pozzos. The Elite Performance Plan endorses the accumulation of the best/ better talent from the UK by the bigger clubs. That will now leave the crumbs for clubs like ours, Middlesborough, Crewe, Ipswich, Palace etc that have had a history and culture of youth development. As I said in the other thread are we to rely primarily on those players we can get that are possibly Championship level at best but more probably League 1 and below ? It makes the Pozzo approach even more sensible. If Ogo decides to go United (if offered a contract), I wish him all the best. There is no way we can compete with United - in terms of money, glamour etc, only that he is likely to get more opportunity with us, but that probably won't be enough. soulfulhornet
  • Score: 1

9:25pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Watford1960 says...

Before commenting on this story, please just stop and consider that this is about a 16 year old boy with lots of promise who is getting what may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. This may be the pinnacle of his career and especially if it is, who can blame him for seeking the opportunity of coming under the wing of one of the biggest clubs in the world? Over the years, We have enjoyed the benefits of borrowing some of these aspiring stars, like Tom Cleverley and Danny Webber (and in Craig Cathcart, we have just re-signed another whose initial promise and hopes did not materialise in early adulthood). It does us not credit and the boys no benefit to demonise them for following a dream - and they are not to blame for the system which determines how much compensation we get for discovering them (and using our size and influence to prise them away from the amateur clubs they may previously have played for).
Before commenting on this story, please just stop and consider that this is about a 16 year old boy with lots of promise who is getting what may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. This may be the pinnacle of his career and especially if it is, who can blame him for seeking the opportunity of coming under the wing of one of the biggest clubs in the world? Over the years, We have enjoyed the benefits of borrowing some of these aspiring stars, like Tom Cleverley and Danny Webber (and in Craig Cathcart, we have just re-signed another whose initial promise and hopes did not materialise in early adulthood). It does us not credit and the boys no benefit to demonise them for following a dream - and they are not to blame for the system which determines how much compensation we get for discovering them (and using our size and influence to prise them away from the amateur clubs they may previously have played for). Watford1960
  • Score: 0

9:01am Thu 17 Jul 14

londomollari says...

Watford1960 wrote:
Before commenting on this story, please just stop and consider that this is about a 16 year old boy with lots of promise who is getting what may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. This may be the pinnacle of his career and especially if it is, who can blame him for seeking the opportunity of coming under the wing of one of the biggest clubs in the world? Over the years, We have enjoyed the benefits of borrowing some of these aspiring stars, like Tom Cleverley and Danny Webber (and in Craig Cathcart, we have just re-signed another whose initial promise and hopes did not materialise in early adulthood). It does us not credit and the boys no benefit to demonise them for following a dream - and they are not to blame for the system which determines how much compensation we get for discovering them (and using our size and influence to prise them away from the amateur clubs they may previously have played for).
I don't think an of us are demonising the lad at all. None of us, I'm sure, can blame the lad for having money and the promise of fame and a glittering career waved before his eyes.
It's like having a daughter going out with the good looking lad with the flash car. You know he's going to spit her out and leave her heartbroken.
We know that, unless he is something special, he will float around until he is twenty, getting one or two games and a loan, then get kicked out to start his REAL career about two years later than he would with a lower league club.
[quote][p][bold]Watford1960[/bold] wrote: Before commenting on this story, please just stop and consider that this is about a 16 year old boy with lots of promise who is getting what may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. This may be the pinnacle of his career and especially if it is, who can blame him for seeking the opportunity of coming under the wing of one of the biggest clubs in the world? Over the years, We have enjoyed the benefits of borrowing some of these aspiring stars, like Tom Cleverley and Danny Webber (and in Craig Cathcart, we have just re-signed another whose initial promise and hopes did not materialise in early adulthood). It does us not credit and the boys no benefit to demonise them for following a dream - and they are not to blame for the system which determines how much compensation we get for discovering them (and using our size and influence to prise them away from the amateur clubs they may previously have played for).[/p][/quote]I don't think an of us are demonising the lad at all. None of us, I'm sure, can blame the lad for having money and the promise of fame and a glittering career waved before his eyes. It's like having a daughter going out with the good looking lad with the flash car. You know he's going to spit her out and leave her heartbroken. We know that, unless he is something special, he will float around until he is twenty, getting one or two games and a loan, then get kicked out to start his REAL career about two years later than he would with a lower league club. londomollari
  • Score: 1

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