Watford attacker Fernando Forestieri is expected to resume light training tomorrow following his Achilles injury

Fernando Forestieri. Picture: Action Images

Fernando Forestieri. Picture: Action Images

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Fernando Forestieri is expected to resume light training tomorrow following his Achilles injury while Sean Murray should rejoin full training after overcoming an ankle problem.

Forestieri suffered a cut to his Achilles during the 2-2 pre-season friendly against Shrewsbury Town eight days ago.

He was stretchered off during the second half of that game but fears it was a serious injury were quickly eased.

Head of medical Marco Cesarini said after Watford's 5-0 win at St Albans City: “On Monday Forestieri should resume light training sessions. We are happy with the situation and the doctor today (Saturday) removed the stitches on his Achilles.”

Murray’s ankle injury occurred during the Hornets’ friendly against Chemnitzer FC in Austria on Sunday, July 13.

But Cesarini also confirmed the Academy graduate is anticipated to train with the Golden Boys' first-team tomorrow.

One player who remains sidelined however is Craig Cathcart. The centre-back, who joined Watford this summer from Blackpool, picked up a knee problem in the Shrewsbury Town match.

On Saturday, Cesarini said: “Craig Cathcart will still be unavailable for two weeks minimum. We will then assess how he is at that point.”

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8:18am Sun 27 Jul 14

bristol hornet says...

Good news!

But where will Fessi fit in?

Probably on our strong bench which will include Fabbrini, Ranegie and Murray as well as himself!!

What a squad we have now!
Good news! But where will Fessi fit in? Probably on our strong bench which will include Fabbrini, Ranegie and Murray as well as himself!! What a squad we have now! bristol hornet
  • Score: 12

8:39am Sun 27 Jul 14

JohnnyBarnes says...

Very happy it's not too serious... we need him.

If Deeney stays (not a foregone conclusion that he's off, despite what some would have you believe) then we've got a hell of a forward line. Fessi, Deeney and Vydra would surely walk into any other Championship XI and we'll probably end up benching one of them every game.

Can't wait for Saturday.
Very happy it's not too serious... we need him. If Deeney stays (not a foregone conclusion that he's off, despite what some would have you believe) then we've got a hell of a forward line. Fessi, Deeney and Vydra would surely walk into any other Championship XI and we'll probably end up benching one of them every game. Can't wait for Saturday. JohnnyBarnes
  • Score: 17

10:33am Sun 27 Jul 14

Nick El Greco says...

Kechi looked 100% up for it yesterday and Dyer looked sharp. Somebody is going to get completely thrashed by us quite early on methinks
Kechi looked 100% up for it yesterday and Dyer looked sharp. Somebody is going to get completely thrashed by us quite early on methinks Nick El Greco
  • Score: 14

10:33am Sun 27 Jul 14

Nick El Greco says...

Kechi looked 100% up for it yesterday and Dyer looked sharp. Somebody is going to get completely thrashed by us quite early on methinks
Kechi looked 100% up for it yesterday and Dyer looked sharp. Somebody is going to get completely thrashed by us quite early on methinks Nick El Greco
  • Score: 5

10:33am Sun 27 Jul 14

Nick El Greco says...

Kechi looked 100% up for it yesterday and Dyer looked sharp. Somebody is going to get completely thrashed by us quite early on methinks
Kechi looked 100% up for it yesterday and Dyer looked sharp. Somebody is going to get completely thrashed by us quite early on methinks Nick El Greco
  • Score: -10

11:08am Sun 27 Jul 14

Bush Hornet says...

And this guy Ighalo yet to join us. Embarrassment of riches. Hope Beppe can keep everyone happy :-/
And this guy Ighalo yet to join us. Embarrassment of riches. Hope Beppe can keep everyone happy :-/ Bush Hornet
  • Score: 6

11:10am Sun 27 Jul 14

itsafamilyclub!!! says...

As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO itsafamilyclub!!!
  • Score: -4

11:17am Sun 27 Jul 14

Vespa Crabro says...

itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let's do some destroying before we start crowing - remember how we were going to walk the league last season.......
[quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let's do some destroying before we start crowing - remember how we were going to walk the league last season....... Vespa Crabro
  • Score: 34

11:38am Sun 27 Jul 14

SAHornet says...

Vespa Crabro wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let's do some destroying before we start crowing - remember how we were going to walk the league last season.......
Bang-on Vespa. Don't let your expectations get the better of you too early. Just wait and see. My nerves are already starting to build up now.
[quote][p][bold]Vespa Crabro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let's do some destroying before we start crowing - remember how we were going to walk the league last season.......[/p][/quote]Bang-on Vespa. Don't let your expectations get the better of you too early. Just wait and see. My nerves are already starting to build up now. SAHornet
  • Score: 10

12:11pm Sun 27 Jul 14

rayman01 says...

It would be good for football generally as well as WFC in particular if Deeney stays. Too many in EPL like Ol' Arry flashing the cash. It's not our fault that Fulham paid silly money for McCormack or Ulloa fee to Brighton. Either confident we will do well this year. Luv the Horns!
It would be good for football generally as well as WFC in particular if Deeney stays. Too many in EPL like Ol' Arry flashing the cash. It's not our fault that Fulham paid silly money for McCormack or Ulloa fee to Brighton. Either confident we will do well this year. Luv the Horns! rayman01
  • Score: 8

12:11pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Poppet Bear says...

Let's hope Bepe can mould them into a team and not just individuals.
Let's hope Bepe can mould them into a team and not just individuals. Poppet Bear
  • Score: 15

12:59pm Sun 27 Jul 14

lockerbiehornet says...

Vespa Crabro wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let's do some destroying before we start crowing - remember how we were going to walk the league last season.......
Not forgetting Dyer and Anya, as some have said already it's almost an embarrassment of riches!
[quote][p][bold]Vespa Crabro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let's do some destroying before we start crowing - remember how we were going to walk the league last season.......[/p][/quote]Not forgetting Dyer and Anya, as some have said already it's almost an embarrassment of riches! lockerbiehornet
  • Score: 3

4:13pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Stoney77 says...

itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager?
Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper.
But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!).
Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat.
There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv.
Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.?
For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday!
Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13?
I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns.
We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure!
I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season.
For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference.

I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch.
So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous!
[quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager? Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper. But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!). Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat. There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv. Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.? For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday! Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13? I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns. We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure! I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season. For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference. I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch. So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous! Stoney77
  • Score: 35

4:56pm Sun 27 Jul 14

VOReason says...

Stoney77 wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager?
Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper.
But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!).
Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat.
There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv.
Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.?
For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday!
Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13?
I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns.
We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure!
I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season.
For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference.

I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch.
So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous!
Could you expand on that a little?
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager? Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper. But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!). Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat. There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv. Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.? For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday! Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13? I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns. We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure! I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season. For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference. I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch. So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous![/p][/quote]Could you expand on that a little? VOReason
  • Score: 13

4:56pm Sun 27 Jul 14

VOReason says...

Stoney77 wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager?
Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper.
But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!).
Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat.
There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv.
Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.?
For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday!
Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13?
I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns.
We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure!
I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season.
For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference.

I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch.
So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous!
Could you expand on that a little?
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager? Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper. But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!). Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat. There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv. Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.? For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday! Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13? I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns. We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure! I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season. For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference. I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch. So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous![/p][/quote]Could you expand on that a little? VOReason
  • Score: -1

5:12pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Bush Hornet says...

Good essay from Stony. If Abdi is as good as he was in 2012/13 then we are in for a good season. Without getting carried away I think anything less than promotion will be seen as a failure by fans and club alike. That's just the way it is. We've set our stall out and if Beppe doesn't produce he'll be gone I guess.
Good essay from Stony. If Abdi is as good as he was in 2012/13 then we are in for a good season. Without getting carried away I think anything less than promotion will be seen as a failure by fans and club alike. That's just the way it is. We've set our stall out and if Beppe doesn't produce he'll be gone I guess. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 7

5:16pm Sun 27 Jul 14

itsafamilyclub!!! says...

Stoney77 wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager?
Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper.
But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!).
Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat.
There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv.
Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.?
For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday!
Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13?
I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns.
We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure!
I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season.
For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference.

I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch.
So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous!
The combination of that and my Sunday lunch made me nod off for a while..
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager? Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper. But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!). Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat. There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv. Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.? For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday! Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13? I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns. We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure! I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season. For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference. I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch. So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous![/p][/quote]The combination of that and my Sunday lunch made me nod off for a while.. itsafamilyclub!!!
  • Score: -15

5:19pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Stoney77 says...

itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
Stoney77 wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager?
Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper.
But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!).
Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat.
There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv.
Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.?
For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday!
Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13?
I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns.
We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure!
I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season.
For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference.

I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch.
So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous!
The combination of that and my Sunday lunch made me nod off for a while..
If you didn't stay up until the early hours playing football manager you wouldn't need an afternoon nap.
[quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager? Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper. But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!). Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat. There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv. Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.? For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday! Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13? I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns. We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure! I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season. For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference. I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch. So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous![/p][/quote]The combination of that and my Sunday lunch made me nod off for a while..[/p][/quote]If you didn't stay up until the early hours playing football manager you wouldn't need an afternoon nap. Stoney77
  • Score: 7

6:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

SAHornet says...

Stoney77 wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager?
Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper.
But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!).
Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat.
There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv.
Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.?
For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday!
Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13?
I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns.
We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure!
I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season.
For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference.

I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch.
So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous!
Nicely written there Stoney. Agree 100% with everything you say.
[quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager? Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper. But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!). Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat. There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv. Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.? For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday! Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13? I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns. We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure! I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season. For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference. I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch. So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous![/p][/quote]Nicely written there Stoney. Agree 100% with everything you say. SAHornet
  • Score: 7

9:41am Mon 28 Jul 14

Harry's Bar says...

SAHornet wrote:
Stoney77 wrote:
itsafamilyclub!!! wrote:
As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front.

Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle.

Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back..

Gomes in goal.


That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO
Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager?
Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper.
But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!).
Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat.
There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv.
Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.?
For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday!
Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13?
I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns.
We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure!
I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season.
For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference.

I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch.
So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous!
Nicely written there Stoney. Agree 100% with everything you say.
Yes, good piece. Some may have found it a little like reading an "A" level essay but it was a good "A" level essay.
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stoney77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsafamilyclub!!![/bold] wrote: As we are playing three up front in these friendlies id have Deeney, Vydra and Fessi up front. Toszer in the holding role with Abdi and one of Murray or Mcboo in the middle. Angella and Tamas in the CB positions with Paredes right back and Pudil left back.. Gomes in goal. That team would destroy the Championship and finish mid table in the Prem IMHO[/p][/quote]Let me guess, you like to play Football Manager? Sorry, I don't mean to insult at all, and yes that is one hell of a team.... ......on paper. But as last season taught us, a team of very skilful players does not guarantee success. There is a lot of talk on here and other forums of a successful season again and it's not sitting particularly comfortably with me. Last year our expectations caused huge frustration amongst our supporters (including myself) so this year I am really trying to keep expectations in check. (A Very difficult thing to do!). Did anyone look at Leicester's team last summer and say 'that team would destroy the championship?' or take a look at Burnleys team and pronounce that 'this team is guaranteed promotion?'. No, they didn't and so just because we have an abundance of skilful players means diddly squat. There are still a lot of question marks over our team. In my opinion, it's not the players you have at this level, it's the ability to get the best out of them and it's the manager and his tactics that gets a team promoted. So, First up, the biggest question for me is whether Sannino is the man to get the best out of our 'embarrassment of riches' - which, by the way, is a term that I actually agree with, but only with respect to our club. Never before have we had a team with the flair of FF and Fabrrini, the speed and clinical finishing of Vydra; the vision, calmness on the ball and pure footballing skill of Abdi.... I could go on for a long time and have not even mentioned awesome players like Anya, Toszer, Angella, Deeney, Battochio, McGugan, Murray - who are among the best players I have seen in recent years at the Viv. Sannino is, by and large, an unknown quantity, despite him being here for over half a season. Turning our home form around last season whilst not speaking the language is quite an impressive feat; so now that he can speak the lingo, perhaps he will really manage to get the best out of the players consistently.? For me, the other most important thing is fitness. Perhaps this is the reason for so many late goals last year and I hope Sannino has got them working their absolute T-TS off in pre-season. Under Zola the players pre season your seemed abut like a holiday! Furthermore, people are waxing lyrical about Paredes but he could well be another Faraoni, Neuton, Acuna or Fabrrini, and just not suited to the championship. Will Tamas be the leader that we need, will Vydra find the form that he had with us in 12/13? I'm not intending to be negative but I just don't agree with people who say that our team can destroy a league when there are still many unknowns. We've still got a lot of new faces, and the team is getting to know each other. Do we know our best formation and will Sannino ever know it? Or Will Sannino turn into a tactical genius and have the players be able to switch seamlessly between formations and tactics during a game to counter the opposition as necessary? Who knows?! None of us that's for sure! I also know that You can't underestimate the power of a settled squad that know each other's game, and that you need your big players to perform consistently throughout the season. For me them, if I had to pick out just one thing that could be the difference between success and mediocrity/failure this season, it would be the fitness and form of Almen Abdi. For me he is the difference. I can't wait for the season to start. I do agree that our squad (with or without Deeney) is unbelievable on paper and ridiculously exciting but if my expectations are too high then I may not enjoy the season like last year and let's be honest - things at our club have never looked so promising in the last 25 years - both on and off the pitch. So Sit back, relax and marvel at the players we have. We have no god given right to promotion, we have no god given right to the Pozzos but we have a financially stable club and very exciting footballers. That should be enough for us to enjoy the season ahead. Promotion is not the be all and end all..........but it would be bloody marvellous![/p][/quote]Nicely written there Stoney. Agree 100% with everything you say.[/p][/quote]Yes, good piece. Some may have found it a little like reading an "A" level essay but it was a good "A" level essay. Harry's Bar
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