Beppe Sannino: Watford should have been more angry and compact during 3-0 defeat to Norwich City

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Beppe Sannino believes Watford would not have conceded three goals against Norwich City if they had 11 men on the pitch but says his team should have been more angry and compact during this afternoon’s 3-0 defeat.

Norwich winger Nathan Redmond ended up with a bloody nose after an off-the-ball clash with Joel Ekstrand in the second minute of the match.

The Canaries utilised their extra man well and Bradley Johnson opened the scoring in the 32nd minute. There were two more goals from Lewis Grabban and Alexander Tettey in the second half.

Sannino said: "Norwich are a good team and played well. They deserved to win today. They moved the ball well but I think a game with 11 versus 11 would be a different match. I don’t think we would concede three goals with 11 men on the pitch.”

Sannino claimed Ekstrand’s sending off just two minutes into the contest was controversial considering it was “not a clear situation”.

He had not spoken to Ekstrand or watched the video footage back when he addressed the media after the 3-0 defeat at Carrow Road.

But said: “For me it is a big decision to make in a situation which isn’t clear after just three minutes.

“I didn’t see it [the incident]. Now with serenity I will watch it and speak with Ekstrand. But now the match is finished, I am thinking about the next match.”

Sannino did not blame the defeat solely on the sending off though.

“I believe that even with one man less that you should play with more anger and be more compact. Norwich played a good match but we helped them.”

Watford goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes was chipped for the first two Norwich goals; the second with the help of a deflection.

But the head coach said: “I don’t think that we can absolutely blame Gomes today because we let the opposing players have easy shots on goal.”

He continued: “I think football is one-versus-one and it was too easy for the opponent today to shoot at our goal, not because of Gomes.”

Watford had a good spell after half-time following the introduction of Lloyd Dyer, with Lewis McGugan making way.

“Yes Dyer did well and we stretched Norwich with him and had a couple of chances to equalise early into the second half,” Sannino said.

The other two substitutions saw Matej Vydra and Almen Abdi make way for Fernando Forestieri and Keith Andrews with almost half an hour remaining.

Sannino denied the suggestion he took off Vydra and Abdi with Tuesday’s game against Rotherham in mind, saying: “It was a tactical decision because I wanted to put on players who could stretch the opposition. We wanted more of an attacking threat when we won the ball back.”

Read a report of today's game here.

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6:40pm Sat 16 Aug 14

borohorn says...

"Wanted more of an attacking threat"........ so he takes off abdi for Andrews.....
"Wanted more of an attacking threat"........ so he takes off abdi for Andrews..... borohorn
  • Score: -9

6:47pm Sat 16 Aug 14

weeblehorn says...

Sannino should be more bloody angry with Ekstrand. He cost us the game. We could have been sitting still second in the league and making them all sit up if it was'nt for his stupid challenge.
Sannino should be more bloody angry with Ekstrand. He cost us the game. We could have been sitting still second in the league and making them all sit up if it was'nt for his stupid challenge. weeblehorn
  • Score: 61

7:29pm Sat 16 Aug 14

wide old hornet says...

Long Season.
Need to put this behind them and get 3 points on Tuesday.
Leave it at that.
Come on you horns.
Long Season. Need to put this behind them and get 3 points on Tuesday. Leave it at that. Come on you horns. wide old hornet
  • Score: 22

8:05pm Sat 16 Aug 14

andyandyandy says...

If Ekstrand is guilty of taking Redmond out he needs a fine of two weeks wages.
Poor discipline needs nipping in the bud right now before it costs us.
If Ekstrand is guilty of taking Redmond out he needs a fine of two weeks wages. Poor discipline needs nipping in the bud right now before it costs us. andyandyandy
  • Score: 41

8:35pm Sat 16 Aug 14

green chilli says...

Now if Andrees comes on it should of bin for Tozser he was poor today just shows that Beppe got is favourites we will win notting if thats how hes doing things ant got clue
Now if Andrees comes on it should of bin for Tozser he was poor today just shows that Beppe got is favourites we will win notting if thats how hes doing things ant got clue green chilli
  • Score: -31

9:31pm Sat 16 Aug 14

jasonwatford says...

I have been fully behind the manager but today I did struggle to see what he wanted to do. Gomes was far too off his line all game , Paredes was woeful today and wanted to much time on the ball giving it away far too easily , Toszer was rubbish and don't get me started on PUDIL , He is a waste of space in our team , never gets close to his man , never stops a cross in and his distribution in final third is non exsistant. Redmond made a monkey out of him. McGugan was having a good half with a treat on goal and he came off ??? Why he did not take PUDIL off replace him with TH I do not know. Tamas was at fault for 3rd goal trying to be clever and to round it off we get a free kick in last seconds while toszer lines it up Fernando runs up and smashes it over the bar. Toszer and rest of team look at him in disgust and he walks off the pitch as ref blows up on his own. Bad day
I have been fully behind the manager but today I did struggle to see what he wanted to do. Gomes was far too off his line all game , Paredes was woeful today and wanted to much time on the ball giving it away far too easily , Toszer was rubbish and don't get me started on PUDIL , He is a waste of space in our team , never gets close to his man , never stops a cross in and his distribution in final third is non exsistant. Redmond made a monkey out of him. McGugan was having a good half with a treat on goal and he came off ??? Why he did not take PUDIL off replace him with TH I do not know. Tamas was at fault for 3rd goal trying to be clever and to round it off we get a free kick in last seconds while toszer lines it up Fernando runs up and smashes it over the bar. Toszer and rest of team look at him in disgust and he walks off the pitch as ref blows up on his own. Bad day jasonwatford
  • Score: 6

9:43pm Sat 16 Aug 14

The Skeptical Optimist says...

andyandyandy wrote:
If Ekstrand is guilty of taking Redmond out he needs a fine of two weeks wages.
Poor discipline needs nipping in the bud right now before it costs us.
But if the players think they'll get severely punished just for getting a card, then they might be less willing to take a risk making a last stitch tackle.

I haven't seen the Ekstrand foul so I don't know if it was completely unwarranted and unacceptable or not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea for there to be a precedent for severe financial punishment for getting red cards... Isn't the knowledge that he completely let the team down today enough?
[quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: If Ekstrand is guilty of taking Redmond out he needs a fine of two weeks wages. Poor discipline needs nipping in the bud right now before it costs us.[/p][/quote]But if the players think they'll get severely punished just for getting a card, then they might be less willing to take a risk making a last stitch tackle. I haven't seen the Ekstrand foul so I don't know if it was completely unwarranted and unacceptable or not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea for there to be a precedent for severe financial punishment for getting red cards... Isn't the knowledge that he completely let the team down today enough? The Skeptical Optimist
  • Score: 2

9:45pm Sat 16 Aug 14

EltonForever says...

We are not that good that we will beat teams with only ten men.

Early sendings off and concession of late goals cost us dearly last season.

Lack of discipline should be met with additional sanctions from the Club.

An early wake up call for the team and a reality check for WFC supporters.
We are not that good that we will beat teams with only ten men. Early sendings off and concession of late goals cost us dearly last season. Lack of discipline should be met with additional sanctions from the Club. An early wake up call for the team and a reality check for WFC supporters. EltonForever
  • Score: 15

10:57pm Sat 16 Aug 14

endean2 says...

who was the T*** that said we would coast this season with 100 points
plus, not with a performance like that.
Agree with the comments regards our Swede! SHIP OUT NOW.

3 points at Rotheram for us?
who was the T*** that said we would coast this season with 100 points plus, not with a performance like that. Agree with the comments regards our Swede! SHIP OUT NOW. 3 points at Rotheram for us? endean2
  • Score: -5

11:00pm Sat 16 Aug 14

lutondown says...

As an attendee
He took off mcgugan who was having a good game
Left pudil on...poor
Didn't bring on Hoban
Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor.
Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly.
He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame.
Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing
Clueless IMO
As for Ekstrand he's a liability
This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge
As an attendee He took off mcgugan who was having a good game Left pudil on...poor Didn't bring on Hoban Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor. Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly. He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame. Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing Clueless IMO As for Ekstrand he's a liability This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge lutondown
  • Score: 23

11:26pm Sat 16 Aug 14

Victory Yellow says...

Its not the 3-0 defeat that bothers me, although its hard to take considering there is family rivalry at stake, its Deeney. He will probably be sold now, they will be thinking 9.5 Million we make the most money and there is no cert we are going up. We need 7-9 points from the next three games to stand any chance of keeping him if its not too late already. I expect Leicester to be making a bid on Monday.
Its not the 3-0 defeat that bothers me, although its hard to take considering there is family rivalry at stake, its Deeney. He will probably be sold now, they will be thinking 9.5 Million we make the most money and there is no cert we are going up. We need 7-9 points from the next three games to stand any chance of keeping him if its not too late already. I expect Leicester to be making a bid on Monday. Victory Yellow
  • Score: -26

11:46pm Sat 16 Aug 14

The BestTrip2011 says...

lutondown wrote:
As an attendee
He took off mcgugan who was having a good game
Left pudil on...poor
Didn't bring on Hoban
Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor.
Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly.
He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame.
Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing
Clueless IMO
As for Ekstrand he's a liability
This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge
Hmm, you've called it pretty much right there.
Surely Hoban should be starting? He's hardly put a foot wrong in every game he's played whereas Ekstrand was persistently dismal last season.
This is a strong squad, but whether Sannino can get them to play consistently as a team remains to be seen. He makes the oddest of changes and, in my opinion, players don't seem to understand them either. Incidentally, anyone know how his English lessons are progressing?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: As an attendee He took off mcgugan who was having a good game Left pudil on...poor Didn't bring on Hoban Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor. Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly. He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame. Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing Clueless IMO As for Ekstrand he's a liability This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge[/p][/quote]Hmm, you've called it pretty much right there. Surely Hoban should be starting? He's hardly put a foot wrong in every game he's played whereas Ekstrand was persistently dismal last season. This is a strong squad, but whether Sannino can get them to play consistently as a team remains to be seen. He makes the oddest of changes and, in my opinion, players don't seem to understand them either. Incidentally, anyone know how his English lessons are progressing? The BestTrip2011
  • Score: 11

12:09am Sun 17 Aug 14

errollg says...

Our discipline was worst in the division last season. We need to clamp down on it strongly or else it will cost us both in games where we lose players and in resulting suspensions. This could be the difference between going up or not. Managers impose discipline by their standards and personality. Over to you Beppe, sort it out please!
Our discipline was worst in the division last season. We need to clamp down on it strongly or else it will cost us both in games where we lose players and in resulting suspensions. This could be the difference between going up or not. Managers impose discipline by their standards and personality. Over to you Beppe, sort it out please! errollg
  • Score: 16

6:23am Sun 17 Aug 14

VOReason says...

I didn't go yesterday, but feel we have too many in our squad that are a law unto themselves!

I loved cas but he certainly was last year and ekstrand is the same!

You have 90 minutes to smash Redmond fairly in a 50/50 or if you are not good enough and really feel the need then last 2, minutes not the first.

As for fessi, and again I love him. If he has run up and smashed a free kick against team orders then he should be given a fine too! Against Stevenage we had no free kick takers in the pitch yet he did not go near one!

It's ill discipline and it will get us no where!
I didn't go yesterday, but feel we have too many in our squad that are a law unto themselves! I loved cas but he certainly was last year and ekstrand is the same! You have 90 minutes to smash Redmond fairly in a 50/50 or if you are not good enough and really feel the need then last 2, minutes not the first. As for fessi, and again I love him. If he has run up and smashed a free kick against team orders then he should be given a fine too! Against Stevenage we had no free kick takers in the pitch yet he did not go near one! It's ill discipline and it will get us no where! VOReason
  • Score: 8

6:59am Sun 17 Aug 14

mellow yellow says...

What the hell has happened to JE? In his first season he was great, he signs permanently and last season he was a liability. Late, reckless, and consistently out of position. If he is guilty of another bout of stupidity, he needs to be taken to one side and warned heavily. And dropped for TH, without question. I feel sorry for the fans that were there... A Norwich mate texted me after the game. The message simple: it was pretty even, up to the second minute.

As for Deeney, anyone out there who thinks this means he will be transferred because of this result is as guilty of knee jerking as the guy who reckoned we would get 100 points. A bit more rational thought and less black and white thinking might not go amiss.

How many teams have a 100 percent record at the moment? And we've only had two games FFS.
What the hell has happened to JE? In his first season he was great, he signs permanently and last season he was a liability. Late, reckless, and consistently out of position. If he is guilty of another bout of stupidity, he needs to be taken to one side and warned heavily. And dropped for TH, without question. I feel sorry for the fans that were there... A Norwich mate texted me after the game. The message simple: it was pretty even, up to the second minute. As for Deeney, anyone out there who thinks this means he will be transferred because of this result is as guilty of knee jerking as the guy who reckoned we would get 100 points. A bit more rational thought and less black and white thinking might not go amiss. How many teams have a 100 percent record at the moment? And we've only had two games FFS. mellow yellow
  • Score: 24

7:09am Sun 17 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game. lutondown
  • Score: 21

7:18am Sun 17 Aug 14

exeterhornet says...

Didn't go today so can only go by highlights and comments on here and other forums. Doesn't seem too clever and the petulance among the players seems to still exist. Discipline, consistency and a maximum of 5 or 6 losses over a season are generally pre requisites for auto promotion. Not doing well on any count at the moment but willing to put this one down as a reality check, but you have issues to address Beppe. The one thing that really concerns me is our away record. These things tend to produce 'psychological' problems if they drag on and so Rotherham has become even more important in this regard. Like this board, the team tends to reach extremes, good and positive one week and poor/miserable the next.
Roll on Tuesday, always promised to take the Mrs to New York
Didn't go today so can only go by highlights and comments on here and other forums. Doesn't seem too clever and the petulance among the players seems to still exist. Discipline, consistency and a maximum of 5 or 6 losses over a season are generally pre requisites for auto promotion. Not doing well on any count at the moment but willing to put this one down as a reality check, but you have issues to address Beppe. The one thing that really concerns me is our away record. These things tend to produce 'psychological' problems if they drag on and so Rotherham has become even more important in this regard. Like this board, the team tends to reach extremes, good and positive one week and poor/miserable the next. Roll on Tuesday, always promised to take the Mrs to New York exeterhornet
  • Score: 4

7:43am Sun 17 Aug 14

mellow yellow says...

lutondown wrote:
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
Zola back, with Eustace as number two, plus this squad, LD, and I reckon that would have been job done.
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.[/p][/quote]Zola back, with Eustace as number two, plus this squad, LD, and I reckon that would have been job done. mellow yellow
  • Score: 7

8:01am Sun 17 Aug 14

buckler says...

Not sure how or why a 6' 4' goalkeeper is doing getting lobbed all game- liability ! Surely the hospital porter can see the problem..
Not sure how or why a 6' 4' goalkeeper is doing getting lobbed all game- liability ! Surely the hospital porter can see the problem.. buckler
  • Score: 14

9:04am Sun 17 Aug 14

Shoooooot says...

I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track.
I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track. Shoooooot
  • Score: 24

10:00am Sun 17 Aug 14

corbindallas says...

lutondown wrote:
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
We were that yesterday but always are better away than home on the singing front, Nice pitch and 4 sided stadium was full but no video screen and a constat smell of Delias pies! Spot on re Beppe, really getting frustrated with his subs in both CF games now clearly lost in dealing with the red card, also had a urge to throw my bottle of Oasis at the lino d i ck in front of us (he didn't turn round once) but the barstweards took the cap off me on entry. Not sure what to make of yesterdays show one thing clear if we play like that again we will be lucky to get 50 points, at least with Ekstrands match bans we can see someone else come in a hopefully cement a place in front of him, Hoban anyone?
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.[/p][/quote]We were that yesterday but always are better away than home on the singing front, Nice pitch and 4 sided stadium was full but no video screen and a constat smell of Delias pies! Spot on re Beppe, really getting frustrated with his subs in both CF games now clearly lost in dealing with the red card, also had a urge to throw my bottle of Oasis at the lino d i ck in front of us (he didn't turn round once) but the barstweards took the cap off me on entry. Not sure what to make of yesterdays show one thing clear if we play like that again we will be lucky to get 50 points, at least with Ekstrands match bans we can see someone else come in a hopefully cement a place in front of him, Hoban anyone? corbindallas
  • Score: 6

10:07am Sun 17 Aug 14

corbindallas says...

Shoooooot wrote:
I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track.
No one saw the incident, even the lino saw the aftermath and made 2 and 2 to then go ape with his flag, the height difference between Ekstrand and Redmond means he probably put his arm out to stop him running past and Redmond ran straight into it, was it a red, I doubt it not 2 minutes in and off the ball but then the ref and lino on our side were on a different game plan, just don't get why we always have the majority crap decisions by match officials, from ghost goals onward we alwasy get harsh treatment, can't even blame our kit colour as we were in the zebra strip yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]Shoooooot[/bold] wrote: I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track.[/p][/quote]No one saw the incident, even the lino saw the aftermath and made 2 and 2 to then go ape with his flag, the height difference between Ekstrand and Redmond means he probably put his arm out to stop him running past and Redmond ran straight into it, was it a red, I doubt it not 2 minutes in and off the ball but then the ref and lino on our side were on a different game plan, just don't get why we always have the majority crap decisions by match officials, from ghost goals onward we alwasy get harsh treatment, can't even blame our kit colour as we were in the zebra strip yesterday. corbindallas
  • Score: 7

10:14am Sun 17 Aug 14

allgood says...

Ekstrand is a liability. He gives away too many stupid free kicks in dangerous positions and now caps it by costing us the game in the 2nd minute. I hope whoever comes in for him at Rotherham makes the place their own.
Ekstrand is a liability. He gives away too many stupid free kicks in dangerous positions and now caps it by costing us the game in the 2nd minute. I hope whoever comes in for him at Rotherham makes the place their own. allgood
  • Score: 7

12:24pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Denzil D says...

corbindallas wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
We were that yesterday but always are better away than home on the singing front, Nice pitch and 4 sided stadium was full but no video screen and a constat smell of Delias pies! Spot on re Beppe, really getting frustrated with his subs in both CF games now clearly lost in dealing with the red card, also had a urge to throw my bottle of Oasis at the lino d i ck in front of us (he didn't turn round once) but the barstweards took the cap off me on entry. Not sure what to make of yesterdays show one thing clear if we play like that again we will be lucky to get 50 points, at least with Ekstrands match bans we can see someone else come in a hopefully cement a place in front of him, Hoban anyone?
Tommie's definitely the man. Something good could come from yesterday if JE's red leads Beppe to our best back 3.

With 10 men you've got to work 10% harder than the oppo but if anything they put in 10% more than us. On the other hand would it of made sense to flog ourselves on a probable lost cause with another game tuesday?... even this early, Rotherham now appears a massive test of our credentials for this season. They will be aggressive and high-tempo and we simply can't roll over like yesterday. Also if that happens we risk Deeney concluding we're not up for a promo push and putting in a transfer request.
Dyer should start at the NY in place of Pudil who offers little going forward and is not as good a defender as Doyley. I'd consider Andrews for McGugan to stiffen up the mid and allow Dyer and Paredes more licence to get forward.
[quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.[/p][/quote]We were that yesterday but always are better away than home on the singing front, Nice pitch and 4 sided stadium was full but no video screen and a constat smell of Delias pies! Spot on re Beppe, really getting frustrated with his subs in both CF games now clearly lost in dealing with the red card, also had a urge to throw my bottle of Oasis at the lino d i ck in front of us (he didn't turn round once) but the barstweards took the cap off me on entry. Not sure what to make of yesterdays show one thing clear if we play like that again we will be lucky to get 50 points, at least with Ekstrands match bans we can see someone else come in a hopefully cement a place in front of him, Hoban anyone?[/p][/quote]Tommie's definitely the man. Something good could come from yesterday if JE's red leads Beppe to our best back 3. With 10 men you've got to work 10% harder than the oppo but if anything they put in 10% more than us. On the other hand would it of made sense to flog ourselves on a probable lost cause with another game tuesday?... even this early, Rotherham now appears a massive test of our credentials for this season. They will be aggressive and high-tempo and we simply can't roll over like yesterday. Also if that happens we risk Deeney concluding we're not up for a promo push and putting in a transfer request. Dyer should start at the NY in place of Pudil who offers little going forward and is not as good a defender as Doyley. I'd consider Andrews for McGugan to stiffen up the mid and allow Dyer and Paredes more licence to get forward. Denzil D
  • Score: 6

12:33pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Terry Dactile says...

Shoooooot wrote:
I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track.
Unfortunately the TV pictures prove you wrong on the linesman. He flagged quickly and yes it was a definite red card. I have super yellow tinted glasses, but even they can't work on that one!!!
[quote][p][bold]Shoooooot[/bold] wrote: I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the TV pictures prove you wrong on the linesman. He flagged quickly and yes it was a definite red card. I have super yellow tinted glasses, but even they can't work on that one!!! Terry Dactile
  • Score: -1

12:51pm Sun 17 Aug 14

green chilli says...

Stiffen up mid like he did sat Andrews for toszer he was poor y should he start long balls that all he can do only got one foot
Stiffen up mid like he did sat Andrews for toszer he was poor y should he start long balls that all he can do only got one foot green chilli
  • Score: -5

1:08pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Watford82 says...

Terry Dactile wrote:
Shoooooot wrote:
I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track.
Unfortunately the TV pictures prove you wrong on the linesman. He flagged quickly and yes it was a definite red card. I have super yellow tinted glasses, but even they can't work on that one!!!
I am not sure the TV pictures showed anything other than a long distance shot of the two running together. I was there but as were most was watching Norwich attack down their right and not at the run by Redmond in the middle. Big big call at that stage of the game. Added to which, the referee did not book anyone else despite raised hands to the head by their players as they competed with Deeney for high ball.

And those complaining at Toszer could not have been there! No one played well but aside from Ekstrand, Tamas was poor and gave them the ball for the third goal, and Paredes in contrast to last week was very poor defending and bar a couple of runs was wasteful in possession.
[quote][p][bold]Terry Dactile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoooooot[/bold] wrote: I was at the match. I didn't see the incident but what struck me was the time between it & when the linesman put his flag up. Must have been 15secs which suggests he didn't see it & only responded to Norwich fans baying. In which case was sufficient doubt to not make a game changing decision. Match was ruined from that moment on - very frustrating. Can't make any judgement about the players or performance after that - Norwich were in the prem after all last season. Need evidence from next few weeks to really assess this teams prospects & I think we will be back on track.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the TV pictures prove you wrong on the linesman. He flagged quickly and yes it was a definite red card. I have super yellow tinted glasses, but even they can't work on that one!!![/p][/quote]I am not sure the TV pictures showed anything other than a long distance shot of the two running together. I was there but as were most was watching Norwich attack down their right and not at the run by Redmond in the middle. Big big call at that stage of the game. Added to which, the referee did not book anyone else despite raised hands to the head by their players as they competed with Deeney for high ball. And those complaining at Toszer could not have been there! No one played well but aside from Ekstrand, Tamas was poor and gave them the ball for the third goal, and Paredes in contrast to last week was very poor defending and bar a couple of runs was wasteful in possession. Watford82
  • Score: 1

1:41pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Rosty'srocket says...

Again not there yesterday as away, but from comments chat received seems we blew it for lack of Determination ( not anger Beppe!!) as well as the silly sending off. It looks harmless on the FLshow but not enough time spent on it. Like others I cannot see why Tommie is not on there but perhaps we need to know more of his physical abilities since the op. I was impressed by JL last year at all i thought he would improve on from the previous year but seems not but we will see. We will need some guile and staying power against Rotherham. A bit more inventiveness at free kicks needed rather than curling it for the top corner every time too. Early doors yet though.
Again not there yesterday as away, but from comments chat received seems we blew it for lack of Determination ( not anger Beppe!!) as well as the silly sending off. It looks harmless on the FLshow but not enough time spent on it. Like others I cannot see why Tommie is not on there but perhaps we need to know more of his physical abilities since the op. I was impressed by JL last year at all i thought he would improve on from the previous year but seems not but we will see. We will need some guile and staying power against Rotherham. A bit more inventiveness at free kicks needed rather than curling it for the top corner every time too. Early doors yet though. Rosty'srocket
  • Score: 1

1:45pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Rosty'srocket says...

Oops - should have read not impressed by JL last year. And Paredes needs some defensive coaching big time - either that or play him in a different slot.
Oops - should have read not impressed by JL last year. And Paredes needs some defensive coaching big time - either that or play him in a different slot. Rosty'srocket
  • Score: 0

2:07pm Sun 17 Aug 14

SAHornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
100% agree with this mate.
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.[/p][/quote]100% agree with this mate. SAHornet
  • Score: 4

2:11pm Sun 17 Aug 14

SAHornet says...

corbindallas wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
We were that yesterday but always are better away than home on the singing front, Nice pitch and 4 sided stadium was full but no video screen and a constat smell of Delias pies! Spot on re Beppe, really getting frustrated with his subs in both CF games now clearly lost in dealing with the red card, also had a urge to throw my bottle of Oasis at the lino d i ck in front of us (he didn't turn round once) but the barstweards took the cap off me on entry. Not sure what to make of yesterdays show one thing clear if we play like that again we will be lucky to get 50 points, at least with Ekstrands match bans we can see someone else come in a hopefully cement a place in front of him, Hoban anyone?
Hoban everyone by the sounds of it !
[quote][p][bold]corbindallas[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.[/p][/quote]We were that yesterday but always are better away than home on the singing front, Nice pitch and 4 sided stadium was full but no video screen and a constat smell of Delias pies! Spot on re Beppe, really getting frustrated with his subs in both CF games now clearly lost in dealing with the red card, also had a urge to throw my bottle of Oasis at the lino d i ck in front of us (he didn't turn round once) but the barstweards took the cap off me on entry. Not sure what to make of yesterdays show one thing clear if we play like that again we will be lucky to get 50 points, at least with Ekstrands match bans we can see someone else come in a hopefully cement a place in front of him, Hoban anyone?[/p][/quote]Hoban everyone by the sounds of it ! SAHornet
  • Score: 2

3:14pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Bush Hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
As an attendee
He took off mcgugan who was having a good game
Left pudil on...poor
Didn't bring on Hoban
Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor.
Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly.
He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame.
Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing
Clueless IMO
As for Ekstrand he's a liability
This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge
Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: As an attendee He took off mcgugan who was having a good game Left pudil on...poor Didn't bring on Hoban Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor. Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly. He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame. Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing Clueless IMO As for Ekstrand he's a liability This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge[/p][/quote]Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out Bush Hornet
  • Score: 4

3:17pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Bush Hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
Never wanted Zola to leave. Agree he'd do wonders with this squad and the right assistant.
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.[/p][/quote]Never wanted Zola to leave. Agree he'd do wonders with this squad and the right assistant. Bush Hornet
  • Score: 1

5:19pm Sun 17 Aug 14

PMJ1966 says...

Was at the game and also watched replays of the "incident" and still not convinced it was an incident that warranted a red card and a bit dissapointed so many have condemned JE. Without doubt the ref was a "homer" and convinced he didn't see the incident and nor did the Assistant by the time it took to raise his flag. We were always unlikely to get anything from him but slating JE is not the way ahead and deserves the benefit IMO
Was at the game and also watched replays of the "incident" and still not convinced it was an incident that warranted a red card and a bit dissapointed so many have condemned JE. Without doubt the ref was a "homer" and convinced he didn't see the incident and nor did the Assistant by the time it took to raise his flag. We were always unlikely to get anything from him but slating JE is not the way ahead and deserves the benefit IMO PMJ1966
  • Score: 1

5:30pm Sun 17 Aug 14

tommy gunn says...

The Skeptical Optimist wrote:
andyandyandy wrote:
If Ekstrand is guilty of taking Redmond out he needs a fine of two weeks wages.
Poor discipline needs nipping in the bud right now before it costs us.
But if the players think they'll get severely punished just for getting a card, then they might be less willing to take a risk making a last stitch tackle.

I haven't seen the Ekstrand foul so I don't know if it was completely unwarranted and unacceptable or not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea for there to be a precedent for severe financial punishment for getting red cards... Isn't the knowledge that he completely let the team down today enough?
In some situations in a match there can be some justification for taking a card for the benefit of the team . In this particular instance it was completely unnecessary, there was no danger at all. Ekstrand is now out for 3 games and may have lost his place in the team for a good while if Hoban performs . Sitting on the bench for a good period may remind him of his stupid action at Carrow Road rather than any monetary fine.
[quote][p][bold]The Skeptical Optimist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andyandyandy[/bold] wrote: If Ekstrand is guilty of taking Redmond out he needs a fine of two weeks wages. Poor discipline needs nipping in the bud right now before it costs us.[/p][/quote]But if the players think they'll get severely punished just for getting a card, then they might be less willing to take a risk making a last stitch tackle. I haven't seen the Ekstrand foul so I don't know if it was completely unwarranted and unacceptable or not, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea for there to be a precedent for severe financial punishment for getting red cards... Isn't the knowledge that he completely let the team down today enough?[/p][/quote]In some situations in a match there can be some justification for taking a card for the benefit of the team . In this particular instance it was completely unnecessary, there was no danger at all. Ekstrand is now out for 3 games and may have lost his place in the team for a good while if Hoban performs . Sitting on the bench for a good period may remind him of his stupid action at Carrow Road rather than any monetary fine. tommy gunn
  • Score: -2

9:34pm Sun 17 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
As an attendee
He took off mcgugan who was having a good game
Left pudil on...poor
Didn't bring on Hoban
Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor.
Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly.
He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame.
Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing
Clueless IMO
As for Ekstrand he's a liability
This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge
Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out
Having been one I'm not knowing the role just don't want one coaching us.
Noble? Ha
honest? Nah, we ate all the best food,
humble? I didn't meet that one...
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: As an attendee He took off mcgugan who was having a good game Left pudil on...poor Didn't bring on Hoban Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor. Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly. He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame. Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing Clueless IMO As for Ekstrand he's a liability This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge[/p][/quote]Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out[/p][/quote]Having been one I'm not knowing the role just don't want one coaching us. Noble? Ha honest? Nah, we ate all the best food, humble? I didn't meet that one... lutondown
  • Score: 2

9:35pm Sun 17 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Knocking not knowing
Typo
Knocking not knowing Typo lutondown
  • Score: -1

11:40pm Sun 17 Aug 14

Bush Hornet says...

lutondown wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
As an attendee
He took off mcgugan who was having a good game
Left pudil on...poor
Didn't bring on Hoban
Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor.
Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly.
He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame.
Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing
Clueless IMO
As for Ekstrand he's a liability
This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge
Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out
Having been one I'm not knowing the role just don't want one coaching us.
Noble? Ha
honest? Nah, we ate all the best food,
humble? I didn't meet that one...
I'm sure you were a sweet and tender porter even if you did take the drugs. Anyway I like the fact he was a hospital porter and I'm glad he wasn't a banker. But he's yet to convince me as a Watford manager
[quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: As an attendee He took off mcgugan who was having a good game Left pudil on...poor Didn't bring on Hoban Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor. Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly. He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame. Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing Clueless IMO As for Ekstrand he's a liability This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge[/p][/quote]Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out[/p][/quote]Having been one I'm not knowing the role just don't want one coaching us. Noble? Ha honest? Nah, we ate all the best food, humble? I didn't meet that one...[/p][/quote]I'm sure you were a sweet and tender porter even if you did take the drugs. Anyway I like the fact he was a hospital porter and I'm glad he wasn't a banker. But he's yet to convince me as a Watford manager Bush Hornet
  • Score: 5

8:51am Mon 18 Aug 14

Harry's Bar says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us.
I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match.
He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing.
Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.
Never wanted Zola to leave. Agree he'd do wonders with this squad and the right assistant.
Never look back.
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: Anyway, despite all that I will be going to Rotherham in the hope we put it behind us. I can't help thinking that GFZ, a strong number two ( British) and this squad would be a good match. He must look at the Sannino has been given compared to his lot last season and be silently cussing. Btw our fans were brilliant and noisier than Norwich all the game.[/p][/quote]Never wanted Zola to leave. Agree he'd do wonders with this squad and the right assistant.[/p][/quote]Never look back. Harry's Bar
  • Score: 0

10:17am Mon 18 Aug 14

Wimbledonhorn says...

If we are struggling after 10 games the Pozzos won't mess around, they will instigate a managerial change. The rejection of a 3rd bid from Leicester for deeney is testament to the fact that the Pozzos are deadly serious about promotion this season.

Unfortunately for Beppe there seems to be a pattern emerging. We are excellent at home but can't buy 3 points away from home. That pattern was firmly established at the end of last season i.e a season of mid table mediocricy beckons.
If we are struggling after 10 games the Pozzos won't mess around, they will instigate a managerial change. The rejection of a 3rd bid from Leicester for deeney is testament to the fact that the Pozzos are deadly serious about promotion this season. Unfortunately for Beppe there seems to be a pattern emerging. We are excellent at home but can't buy 3 points away from home. That pattern was firmly established at the end of last season i.e a season of mid table mediocricy beckons. Wimbledonhorn
  • Score: 1

7:00am Tue 19 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Bush Hornet wrote:
lutondown wrote:
As an attendee
He took off mcgugan who was having a good game
Left pudil on...poor
Didn't bring on Hoban
Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor.
Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly.
He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame.
Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing
Clueless IMO
As for Ekstrand he's a liability
This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge
Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out
Having been one I'm not knowing the role just don't want one coaching us.
Noble? Ha
honest? Nah, we ate all the best food,
humble? I didn't meet that one...
I'm sure you were a sweet and tender porter even if you did take the drugs. Anyway I like the fact he was a hospital porter and I'm glad he wasn't a banker. But he's yet to convince me as a Watford manager
When you say banker, are you referring to just the fat cats or those or work in branches as well? Because they are also bankers, and on ordinary salaries. And to think that every hospital porter, cleaner or cook is a saint is laughable.
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lutondown[/bold] wrote: As an attendee He took off mcgugan who was having a good game Left pudil on...poor Didn't bring on Hoban Took off Abdi for Andrew... Now no set piece threat as Toszer was piddle poor. Took off Vydra, replaced with fessi...when we are winning three nil yes, not when losing and losing badly. He's an autocratic coach so he's to blame. Btw Fabrinni has played really well preseason and midweek...his reward? Nothing Clueless IMO As for Ekstrand he's a liability This isn't knee jerk, we have a fine pool of players with a hospital porter in charge[/p][/quote]Hospital porter. A noble, humble and honest job and I would generally take my hat off to anyone who has worked amongst the sick and dying. Question is, can he manage well in this country and this league? Jury's out[/p][/quote]Having been one I'm not knowing the role just don't want one coaching us. Noble? Ha honest? Nah, we ate all the best food, humble? I didn't meet that one...[/p][/quote]I'm sure you were a sweet and tender porter even if you did take the drugs. Anyway I like the fact he was a hospital porter and I'm glad he wasn't a banker. But he's yet to convince me as a Watford manager[/p][/quote]When you say banker, are you referring to just the fat cats or those or work in branches as well? Because they are also bankers, and on ordinary salaries. And to think that every hospital porter, cleaner or cook is a saint is laughable. lutondown
  • Score: 0

2:51pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Bush Hornet says...

I've met one or two bankers who are ok. But I'll admit that I'm preferential towards people who work in hospitals. Maybe I'm just naive or hopelessly romantic. We've all had our personal experiences that make us form opinions. Most of the bankers I've met, for example, are money driven, lacking compassion and a bit dull. Not all though.

We're all free to have opinions about Sannino too. My main concern was that you were using the term 'hospital porter' as an insult; implying that anyone who does that job is too stupid to manage a squad as talented as this. As far as I'm concerned if he's had some life experience outside football that is a good thing. But just being a hospital porter doesn't transform someone from a crook to a saint, obviously. If you're still upset then feel free to shove me into the urinal next time I see you in the rookery toilets ;)
I've met one or two bankers who are ok. But I'll admit that I'm preferential towards people who work in hospitals. Maybe I'm just naive or hopelessly romantic. We've all had our personal experiences that make us form opinions. Most of the bankers I've met, for example, are money driven, lacking compassion and a bit dull. Not all though. We're all free to have opinions about Sannino too. My main concern was that you were using the term 'hospital porter' as an insult; implying that anyone who does that job is too stupid to manage a squad as talented as this. As far as I'm concerned if he's had some life experience outside football that is a good thing. But just being a hospital porter doesn't transform someone from a crook to a saint, obviously. If you're still upset then feel free to shove me into the urinal next time I see you in the rookery toilets ;) Bush Hornet
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Wed 20 Aug 14

lutondown says...

Bush Hornet wrote:
I've met one or two bankers who are ok. But I'll admit that I'm preferential towards people who work in hospitals. Maybe I'm just naive or hopelessly romantic. We've all had our personal experiences that make us form opinions. Most of the bankers I've met, for example, are money driven, lacking compassion and a bit dull. Not all though.

We're all free to have opinions about Sannino too. My main concern was that you were using the term 'hospital porter' as an insult; implying that anyone who does that job is too stupid to manage a squad as talented as this. As far as I'm concerned if he's had some life experience outside football that is a good thing. But just being a hospital porter doesn't transform someone from a crook to a saint, obviously. If you're still upset then feel free to shove me into the urinal next time I see you in the rookery toilets ;)
I'd only ever shake your hands mate, but only after you washed them, being in a toilet and all! And anyway, Simon my point is he was probably a very good porter but I think he's a pants coach, my opinion of course.
[quote][p][bold]Bush Hornet[/bold] wrote: I've met one or two bankers who are ok. But I'll admit that I'm preferential towards people who work in hospitals. Maybe I'm just naive or hopelessly romantic. We've all had our personal experiences that make us form opinions. Most of the bankers I've met, for example, are money driven, lacking compassion and a bit dull. Not all though. We're all free to have opinions about Sannino too. My main concern was that you were using the term 'hospital porter' as an insult; implying that anyone who does that job is too stupid to manage a squad as talented as this. As far as I'm concerned if he's had some life experience outside football that is a good thing. But just being a hospital porter doesn't transform someone from a crook to a saint, obviously. If you're still upset then feel free to shove me into the urinal next time I see you in the rookery toilets ;)[/p][/quote]I'd only ever shake your hands mate, but only after you washed them, being in a toilet and all! And anyway, Simon my point is he was probably a very good porter but I think he's a pants coach, my opinion of course. lutondown
  • Score: 0

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