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Watford confirm directors agree 'in principle' to sell to Udinese and Granada owners the Pozzo family
7:32pm Monday 18th June 2012 in Watford FC News
By Frank Smith, Deputy Group Sports Editor
Watford have released a statement confirming the club’s board of directors have agreed a deal, “in principle” to sell the Hornets to the Pozzo family.
The family behind the Italian side Udinese and Spanish club Granada have been in advanced negotiations with Watford regarding a possible sale.
And Watford have in the last few minutes released a statement on the pending takeover.
It read: “The board of directors, acting on behalf of Watford Football Club, is pleased to confirm that agreement has been reached in principle for the transfer of ownership to the Pozzo family.
“Representatives from the family have been in discussions with Watford Football Club and both parties have agreed initial terms.”
Click links below for more information on the takeover.
Comments(112)
aussihornet
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7:55pm Mon 18 Jun 12
LB-Goldenboy
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8:01pm Mon 18 Jun 12
lutondown
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8:04pm Mon 18 Jun 12
Reminds me of my misspent youth
Do you think Mario De Down lends an air of Latino sophistication?
QUINNPT
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8:11pm Mon 18 Jun 12
QUINNPT
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8:11pm Mon 18 Jun 12
cliff46
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8:16pm Mon 18 Jun 12
I hope they keep Dyche so that we have some continuety particularly as no one knows our youngsters as well as he does.
buckler
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8:19pm Mon 18 Jun 12
pstannard4
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8:28pm Mon 18 Jun 12
Thanks Baz for starting the process of having a new pitch with a new SW corner and a new Stand).
My biggest worry is Sean Dyche. I do hope they keep him on. Reports in Italy is that they are lining up Chelsea Legend and former West Ham Boss Gianfranco Zola as Watford new Manager
Roll on the next season
lutondown
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8:28pm Mon 18 Jun 12
cliff46 wrote:Sounds nice with zucchini and a Peroni, followed by Neapolitan ice cream
Prawn pasta instead of prawn sarnies, not sure about that?
I hope they keep Dyche so that we have some continuety particularly as no one knows our youngsters as well as he does.
Much better than a stale salt beef sarnie from Mrs Baz's Deli
lutondown
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8:31pm Mon 18 Jun 12
pstannard4 wrote:nope, Dyche will be toast I'm thinking along the lines of Jose!
Looks like it the start of something new (hopefully with money at the club)
Thanks Baz for starting the process of having a new pitch with a new SW corner and a new Stand).
My biggest worry is Sean Dyche. I do hope they keep him on. Reports in Italy is that they are lining up Chelsea Legend and former West Ham Boss Gianfranco Zola as Watford new Manager
Roll on the next season
I'm off for a quick drive around spaghetti jnction
llloydwithathirdl
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8:58pm Mon 18 Jun 12
lutondown
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9:00pm Mon 18 Jun 12
llloydwithathirdl wrote:That's the spirit Lloydinhio De Thirdio!
Forza Hornettio!
watfordal
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9:12pm Mon 18 Jun 12
lutondown
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9:14pm Mon 18 Jun 12
D.unstable
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9:21pm Mon 18 Jun 12
I don't wont to get into the bash Baz camp as love him or loath him he will leave the club in a better position than 18 months ago, with auguably a stronger squad, better league finish, new pitch being laid, pub, pa system etc. I just think he is a bit of a chancer and realised that he had better get out now whilst things are still looking good.
Looks as though the potential new owners have a good track record of running football clubs with Udinese finishing third last sseason only behind Juventus and AC Milan in Serie A, Grenada seem to be on the up since they took them over too. However I do hope that we do not just become a feeder club to the big italian mother ship and that they want our club for the right reasons.
From what I can see both Udinese and Grenada have 4 sided grounds so let's hope they want to continue that trend.
Let's hope this is what we all want and have wished for.
Anybody know if that grass seed has been put down yet, otherwise we wont have a pitch to play on in August!!!
buckler
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9:23pm Mon 18 Jun 12
lutondown wrote:So he says! Who knows what he is! One thing he ain't gonna be is a football club owner anymore! Ciao sbas
Bas was not Italian or in descent, he's actually Jewish
lutondown
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9:26pm Mon 18 Jun 12
buckler wrote:No he was, hs family owned a Deli, what more proof does one need!
lutondown wrote:So he says! Who knows what he is! One thing he ain't gonna be is a football club owner anymore! Ciao sbas
Bas was not Italian or in descent, he's actually Jewish
Mind you I do like Salt beef Sarnies
D.unstable
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9:34pm Mon 18 Jun 12
watfordal
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9:43pm Mon 18 Jun 12
Retlas
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9:47pm Mon 18 Jun 12
lutondown
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9:48pm Mon 18 Jun 12
watfordal wrote:Well he's been called Bazini so who knows his real name?
Never come across anybody called Bassini who didn't have just a hint of Italain in him!
lutondown
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9:49pm Mon 18 Jun 12
Retlas wrote:Can't argue with that, but better chancers with real clout
I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.
D.unstable
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9:58pm Mon 18 Jun 12
Retlas wrote:Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links.
I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.
Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
cliff46
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9:58pm Mon 18 Jun 12
That would be an encouraging start or will we have to have a 17 year old from Grenada?
volvov50
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10:00pm Mon 18 Jun 12
SAHornet
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10:12pm Mon 18 Jun 12
Andrew1963
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10:29pm Mon 18 Jun 12
D.unstable wrote:Your right having a team of home grown players good enough to go to Serie A would be a disaster.Lets hope they stick with the old ways with a team clinging on to Championship status with players like Mayo;Fitzgerald; Hand and Sadler.
Has certainly made fixture realease day even more interesting. I look forward to hearing the intentions of the new owners as and when the deal is complete, let's hope they have greater PR than Bassini has shown and continues to show until the end. I don't wont to get into the bash Baz camp as love him or loath him he will leave the club in a better position than 18 months ago, with auguably a stronger squad, better league finish, new pitch being laid, pub, pa system etc. I just think he is a bit of a chancer and realised that he had better get out now whilst things are still looking good. Looks as though the potential new owners have a good track record of running football clubs with Udinese finishing third last sseason only behind Juventus and AC Milan in Serie A, Grenada seem to be on the up since they took them over too. However I do hope that we do not just become a feeder club to the big italian mother ship and that they want our club for the right reasons. From what I can see both Udinese and Grenada have 4 sided grounds so let's hope they want to continue that trend. Let's hope this is what we all want and have wished for. Anybody know if that grass seed has been put down yet, otherwise we wont have a pitch to play on in August!!!
stewbyhorn
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10:40pm Mon 18 Jun 12
lutondown
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10:42pm Mon 18 Jun 12
SAHornet wrote:What a great game that was Bud
i bugger off to Johannesburg for a few days to watch England rugby and when I come back, low and behold, me beloved Hornets have shrugged off the man with several names and have been acquired by proper footie folk. Schweeeet !
Thought we were going to be smashed, great recovery by the young Red Roses!i see theyve completely changed the sde for the third test.
Didnt know you spoke Yiddish my bwoy
Thats a nice bit of schmutter you old schmoozer
U horns
goldanboy
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10:48pm Mon 18 Jun 12
This can only be good for the club...unless of course they change our kit to blue and change our emblem to a horse. Hold tight, all aboard for the watford rollercoaster.
mkhornet
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11:28pm Mon 18 Jun 12
ChunkeyMonkey
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11:29pm Mon 18 Jun 12
gazmondo
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11:35pm Mon 18 Jun 12
mkhornet
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11:41pm Mon 18 Jun 12
Vespa Crabro
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12:13am Tue 19 Jun 12
D.unstable wrote:I don't think there is much danger of us becoming a feeder club. We are one good season away from joining the Premier League with it's (non-euro) riches which surpass anything available in Spain or Italy.....Since the PL was formed we have taken part in the 7th and 14th seasons, promotion next season would continue our seven year cycle!
Has certainly made fixture realease day even more interesting. I look forward to hearing the intentions of the new owners as and when the deal is complete, let's hope they have greater PR than Bassini has shown and continues to show until the end. I don't wont to get into the bash Baz camp as love him or loath him he will leave the club in a better position than 18 months ago, with auguably a stronger squad, better league finish, new pitch being laid, pub, pa system etc. I just think he is a bit of a chancer and realised that he had better get out now whilst things are still looking good. Looks as though the potential new owners have a good track record of running football clubs with Udinese finishing third last sseason only behind Juventus and AC Milan in Serie A, Grenada seem to be on the up since they took them over too. However I do hope that we do not just become a feeder club to the big italian mother ship and that they want our club for the right reasons. From what I can see both Udinese and Grenada have 4 sided grounds so let's hope they want to continue that trend. Let's hope this is what we all want and have wished for. Anybody know if that grass seed has been put down yet, otherwise we wont have a pitch to play on in August!!!
Henry VIII
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12:53am Tue 19 Jun 12
Blissett'sRevenge
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3:13am Tue 19 Jun 12
http://swissramble.b
logspot.co.uk/2011/0
5/udinese-selling-th
eir-way-to-top.html?
m=1
The bottom is line is that these guys have figured out how to field a very competitive club while running a sensible financial operation and making money.
My speculation is that these smart guys looked closely at Watford with its top-notch academy, dodgy owner, crummy but improvable stadium, near-London location and strong player base and decided we were an under-valued asset. Like Vespa wrote, the real opportunity for them is not to pillage the Hornets to make Udinese better - they've already got Udinese humming. The smart play here is to implement the Udinese model at Watford, reach the Premiere League and then gleefully suck up the profits of an established top-tier club. That does not mean they will splash a ton of cash for name-players and make a smash-and-grab for the loot. Rather, they will build on what we already have so they can achieve sustainable, profitable success.
Look, this is all still very premature. Past performance is no guarantee of future success, and all that. This could all go horribly pear-shaped in any number of ways that we, as Watford fans, are all too able to imagine. But it is entirely reasonable for us to be very optimistic about these new guys. Basically, if your team isn't going to be owned by some spendthrift billionaire who is going to run the team as an ego-driven toy (still the best model), it is entirely likely that the Pozzo's are the best owners you could ask for. It is a very hopeful time to be a Hornet fan.
COYH.
aussihornet
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3:24am Tue 19 Jun 12
Blissett'sRevenge wrote:Blissett I totally agree with you, think this issue has been overlooked today after all this excitement. True, we must not get too over excited HOWEVER...
I'm all for saying good-bye to Bassini but the real reason to be excited about this is the Pozzo family. This is much more than addition by subtraction. Rather, we have stumbled into a set of owners who are really, really good at running a football team. If you don't pay much attention to Serie A (and who could blame you?), you may not understand how remarkable Udinese is. They are a middling club from the provinces with no real history and a mediocre revenue stream. Despite that, the Pozzo's have taken the club into the Champion's League. I strongly recommend this very long, very knowledgeable post about how they've done it.
http://swissramble.b
logspot.co.uk/2011/0
5/udinese-selling-th
eir-way-to-top.html?
m=1
The bottom is line is that these guys have figured out how to field a very competitive club while running a sensible financial operation and making money.
My speculation is that these smart guys looked closely at Watford with its top-notch academy, dodgy owner, crummy but improvable stadium, near-London location and strong player base and decided we were an under-valued asset. Like Vespa wrote, the real opportunity for them is not to pillage the Hornets to make Udinese better - they've already got Udinese humming. The smart play here is to implement the Udinese model at Watford, reach the Premiere League and then gleefully suck up the profits of an established top-tier club. That does not mean they will splash a ton of cash for name-players and make a smash-and-grab for the loot. Rather, they will build on what we already have so they can achieve sustainable, profitable success.
Look, this is all still very premature. Past performance is no guarantee of future success, and all that. This could all go horribly pear-shaped in any number of ways that we, as Watford fans, are all too able to imagine. But it is entirely reasonable for us to be very optimistic about these new guys. Basically, if your team isn't going to be owned by some spendthrift billionaire who is going to run the team as an ego-driven toy (still the best model), it is entirely likely that the Pozzo's are the best owners you could ask for. It is a very hopeful time to be a Hornet fan.
COYH.
Everything you say above is bang on! If we were to get promoted, the potential returns are staggering on reaching the Premier League! Would have been nice if they found us when Baz too over. We may still have had Graham, Cowie, Sordell & A Taylor. Ahh well...
...AS LONG AS WE TELL THEM WHO H IS & TOMMY SMITH...I will be excited! ... & Di-Natalie ;)
andyhooked
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6:46am Tue 19 Jun 12
corbindallas
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7:12am Tue 19 Jun 12
SMP
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8:04am Tue 19 Jun 12
Henry VIII wrote:I completely echo this opinion .. Dyche had his doubters early on last season but certainly proved his worth with extremely limited resources and squad and we finished in our best position for a number of seasons. To be moved aside .. fingers crossed not .. for another manager, would not put the new owners in the best of light with the majority of true Watford supporters who admire how Dyche performed under difficult circumstances.
While I am all for a sound financial base to help the club move forward, I really do hope that the basic fabric of our club is left in place and that Dyche and his backroom staff are still here come August kick-off. Regime change does not always work and we have a manager in place who knows the club inside and out, is respected by the players and essentially gets what WFC is all about. Everyone was getting excited when Vialli was coming to town and when GT left the first time he was replaced by Dave Basset and all of his backroom boys. A change may well be needed at the top and the financial stability welcomed by the majority, but stability at management level would in my opinion be the best way forward. Dyche proved this past season that he knows how to get the best out of his players and he also showed plenty of tactical awareness, I hope he stays - and I hope he wants to stay more to the point.
a1derek
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8:06am Tue 19 Jun 12
garston 'orn
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8:38am Tue 19 Jun 12
northofwatfordpete
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9:00am Tue 19 Jun 12
Bush Hornet
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9:14am Tue 19 Jun 12
tonupchris
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9:29am Tue 19 Jun 12
The good thing about the Pozzo family is there ability to run football clubs and and to make them in to top level sides. What's happened at Udinese is incredible.
The main reason they expressed an interest in Watford was apparently the academy which is obviously a good thing as they presumably would look to put money in to this which helps safeguard our future.
With regards to Dyche, I also think it would be a shame if he went but as we found out with Mackay and Rodgers they may say they're going to stay and then 5 minutes later they leave. Dyche may not be like that but there is no loyalty in football on either side and from a purely selfish point of view I don't care who is in charge (except Pleat) as long as we're doing well.
Exciting times ahead. Watford currently 66/1 to win the league. Might be worth an each way punt!
garston tony
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9:58am Tue 19 Jun 12
buckler wrote:OMG, a supposed Watford supporter calling for an Ultra mob to be formed at the club. Hows about that going against the clubs whole ethos of the past 30+ years. Should have known this was the kind of 'support' you would want, very in keeping with your posts
Let's hope we can attract some younger supporters and have an Ultra Mob sorted! Bye bye Bas!
garston tony
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9:59am Tue 19 Jun 12
lutondown wrote:You mean like Lord A, wow didn’t he do great things for the club with all his billions.
Retlas wrote: I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.Can't argue with that, but better chancers with real clout
I'm sure the Pozzo's are miles better than him at least having a football pedigree and all
garston tony
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10:00am Tue 19 Jun 12
I doubt if he would be as hands on with WFC, probably have some representative sat on the board reporting back.
Just a thought but hows about Udinese or Grenada for that last remaining friendly game before the season kicks off?
Colin West's mullet
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10:08am Tue 19 Jun 12
And Buckler - you're extremely annoying, but fair play, you were bank on the money.
Goldenboy1960
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10:11am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet
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10:15am Tue 19 Jun 12
Goldenboy1960 wrote:Yes, Vialli was hopeless - but not the reason we nearly went under. That was the disgrace of ITV Digital buying Championship rights for £££Squillions, clubs like Watford spending silly money on wages and then ITVD saying 'actually, we don't have the money.' and going bust.
Be careful what you wish for everyone... I remember the last Italian Manager we had, spent all the money that we had on poor players like Issa and Ramon Vega. We went down hill very quickly with Helguson playing Right Wing back etc and nearly went into Administration. Whatever the cricism for Bassini he has steadied the ship and seen us through a very difficult period. Whilst we need to move forward as a Football Club, we also need to be mindful of the club we are and what has made us successful. We have been punching above our weight for over thirty years when you look at the size of club we are and the attendances we get. I'm not sure a group of people from Italy would understand that. In my opinion this is fraught with danger and we should be careful about throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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10:30am Tue 19 Jun 12
dmuz
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10:36am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet
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10:36am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet
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10:46am Tue 19 Jun 12
dmuz wrote:Issa feigning injury, then falling off the stretcher and actually injuring himself was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in all my WFC -watching years.
Issa was one of the better signings. Blondeau was a disgrace!
StephenKilamanjiro
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10:49am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet
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10:52am Tue 19 Jun 12
StephenKilamanjiro wrote:posts like this are why we need a LIKE button.
Problem with 75% of You fans is that you all want steady...things change, get hold of yourselves. This is a great opportunity for the club to establish itself as a PL going concern. All the doom and gloom mongers talk themselves into this being the end for the club...my advice to you is....have a day off you Toby's. Little Watford from Herts are going places...I can't wait to look at QPR and all their muggy fans and tell them I told you so...everyone should get behind this...it's going to be epic!!! #COYH
Hornet Cornet
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10:58am Tue 19 Jun 12
StephenKilamanjiro
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11:04am Tue 19 Jun 12
Alex Hillcroft
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11:05am Tue 19 Jun 12
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
Alex Hillcroft
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11:07am Tue 19 Jun 12
D.unstable wrote:You'd hoped George Michael or Ginger Spice would have been interested in buying Watford?
Retlas wrote:Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links.
I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.
Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
FFS!!
StephenKilamanjiro
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11:08am Tue 19 Jun 12
tonupchris
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11:14am Tue 19 Jun 12
Hornet Cornet wrote:No much. Pretty standard week really!
the cornet is back, oh yes . have i missed anything?
Colin West's mullet
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11:16am Tue 19 Jun 12
Alex Hillcroft wrote:What's all this panic about WFC becoming a feeder club?
Don't think people need worry too much about Watford becoming a feeder club for Udiense - 99 per cent of the lads that have come through Harefield into our first team wouldn't last five minutes in Serie A.
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
What do you think we've been for the last 20 years?
we've been a feeder club ever since Bassett took us down - you just haven't noticed because we hardly produced any players that other clubs want to feed on - but anyone half decent ends up in the Prem pretty soon after a good year with us.
tonupchris
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11:19am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet wrote:Actually you can polish one. It's on the internet!!
Alex Hillcroft wrote:What's all this panic about WFC becoming a feeder club?
Don't think people need worry too much about Watford becoming a feeder club for Udiense - 99 per cent of the lads that have come through Harefield into our first team wouldn't last five minutes in Serie A.
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
What do you think we've been for the last 20 years?
we've been a feeder club ever since Bassett took us down - you just haven't noticed because we hardly produced any players that other clubs want to feed on - but anyone half decent ends up in the Prem pretty soon after a good year with us.
Alex Hillcroft
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11:24am Tue 19 Jun 12
tonupchris wrote:Really?? Did you google 'turd' and 'polish'?
Colin West's mullet wrote:Actually you can polish one. It's on the internet!!
Alex Hillcroft wrote:What's all this panic about WFC becoming a feeder club?
Don't think people need worry too much about Watford becoming a feeder club for Udiense - 99 per cent of the lads that have come through Harefield into our first team wouldn't last five minutes in Serie A.
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
What do you think we've been for the last 20 years?
we've been a feeder club ever since Bassett took us down - you just haven't noticed because we hardly produced any players that other clubs want to feed on - but anyone half decent ends up in the Prem pretty soon after a good year with us.
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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11:25am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet wrote:As long as we can sell them on when WE are ready to, and receive a proper market rate. Don't want Sean joining Udinese for £250k this summer !! ...or the manager being told to field 5 under 19 Udinese prospects who would not otherwise deserve a place in the team.
Alex Hillcroft wrote:What's all this panic about WFC becoming a feeder club?
Don't think people need worry too much about Watford becoming a feeder club for Udiense - 99 per cent of the lads that have come through Harefield into our first team wouldn't last five minutes in Serie A.
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
What do you think we've been for the last 20 years?
we've been a feeder club ever since Bassett took us down - you just haven't noticed because we hardly produced any players that other clubs want to feed on - but anyone half decent ends up in the Prem pretty soon after a good year with us.
As long as this doesn't happen I agree it sounds great news. We can debate long and hard what would have happened in the future under Bas but the truth is we will never know. The Pozzos are the lower risk option and at least have £££s (or rather €€€€s).
luther blissett
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11:31am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet wrote:Bang on the money for just repeating what Affleck was saying on Twitter?
my one concern is that I'm gonna have to switch my italian alliegance from Lecce (for their WFC-esque shirts) to Udinese...other than that, bring it on! And Buckler - you're extremely annoying, but fair play, you were bank on the money.
Colin West's mullet
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11:33am Tue 19 Jun 12
luther blissett wrote:if you say so.
Colin West's mullet wrote:Bang on the money for just repeating what Affleck was saying on Twitter?
my one concern is that I'm gonna have to switch my italian alliegance from Lecce (for their WFC-esque shirts) to Udinese...other than that, bring it on! And Buckler - you're extremely annoying, but fair play, you were bank on the money.
if you'd be so kind as to post everything he tweets straight onto here - then I'll never make such an embarrassing mistake again.
Colin West's mullet
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11:40am Tue 19 Jun 12
http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
11095/7825339/?
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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11:52am Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet wrote:well if not i expect Bas will initiate litigation immediately. If he doesn't, it must be a done deal.
well, that pretty much confirms Zola then...
http://www1.skysport
s.com/football/news/
11095/7825339/?
No Wheels
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12:03pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet
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12:29pm Tue 19 Jun 12
No Wheels wrote:that an Elton lyric?
you can't polish a tu rd, but you can roll it in glitter
tonupchris
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12:42pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Alex Hillcroft wrote:A work colleague uses the same phrase so googled it a while back. You can indeed polish a turd nut you can't train pork!!!
tonupchris wrote:Really?? Did you google 'turd' and 'polish'?
Colin West's mullet wrote:Actually you can polish one. It's on the internet!!
Alex Hillcroft wrote:What's all this panic about WFC becoming a feeder club?
Don't think people need worry too much about Watford becoming a feeder club for Udiense - 99 per cent of the lads that have come through Harefield into our first team wouldn't last five minutes in Serie A.
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
What do you think we've been for the last 20 years?
we've been a feeder club ever since Bassett took us down - you just haven't noticed because we hardly produced any players that other clubs want to feed on - but anyone half decent ends up in the Prem pretty soon after a good year with us.
StephenKilamanjiro
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12:59pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:Mickey, inter-company transactions, although not illegal, are highly scrutinised if deemed to be suspicious. There is no way a company can transfer an asset without full value being paid. Also, transactions of this type have to be at arms reach. However, there are a lot of players in Italy who are co-owned. That could make it interesting... ;)
Colin West's mullet wrote:As long as we can sell them on when WE are ready to, and receive a proper market rate. Don't want Sean joining Udinese for £250k this summer !! ...or the manager being told to field 5 under 19 Udinese prospects who would not otherwise deserve a place in the team.
Alex Hillcroft wrote:What's all this panic about WFC becoming a feeder club?
Don't think people need worry too much about Watford becoming a feeder club for Udiense - 99 per cent of the lads that have come through Harefield into our first team wouldn't last five minutes in Serie A.
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
What do you think we've been for the last 20 years?
we've been a feeder club ever since Bassett took us down - you just haven't noticed because we hardly produced any players that other clubs want to feed on - but anyone half decent ends up in the Prem pretty soon after a good year with us.
As long as this doesn't happen I agree it sounds great news. We can debate long and hard what would have happened in the future under Bas but the truth is we will never know. The Pozzos are the lower risk option and at least have £££s (or rather €€€€s).
Kingswoodhornet
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1:11pm Tue 19 Jun 12
tonupchris wrote:Yes I can confirm the glitter rolling/turd theory, as one of my work mates uses the same quote. I can also confirm that you can't make ice cream out of dog sh1t......but you can make a pretty moody chocolate milk shake.......after you!
Alex Hillcroft wrote:A work colleague uses the same phrase so googled it a while back. You can indeed polish a turd nut you can't train pork!!!
tonupchris wrote:Really?? Did you google 'turd' and 'polish'?
Colin West's mullet wrote:Actually you can polish one. It's on the internet!!
Alex Hillcroft wrote:What's all this panic about WFC becoming a feeder club?
Don't think people need worry too much about Watford becoming a feeder club for Udiense - 99 per cent of the lads that have come through Harefield into our first team wouldn't last five minutes in Serie A.
To all those saying the only thing Baz got wrong during his tenure was his PR, remember - you can't polish a tu rd
What do you think we've been for the last 20 years?
we've been a feeder club ever since Bassett took us down - you just haven't noticed because we hardly produced any players that other clubs want to feed on - but anyone half decent ends up in the Prem pretty soon after a good year with us.
D.unstable
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1:21pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Alex Hillcroft wrote:Are you for real, ever heard of irony!!!
D.unstable wrote:You'd hoped George Michael or Ginger Spice would have been interested in buying Watford? FFS!!Retlas wrote: I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links. Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
garston tony
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2:04pm Tue 19 Jun 12
How do you value a football player anyway? They are ultimately worth what one club is willing to pay and the other sell at and we've seen clubs being sold for more AND less than might have been thought over the years.
I'm coming round to thinking that the new owners will have WFC's best interests at heart and will want the club to be successful, not just a club where they can loan out players. If nothing else just think of the riches of the Prem should they support the club in gaining promotion and maintaining their place there.
I would like the club to remain at heart British with a core of British, home grown players and I think that is possible to do even with maybe 4 or 5 loaned players AND for it to keep its community ethos.
lutondown
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2:40pm Tue 19 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:Tony you are boring
Udinese co own 11 players, arent there rules making this difficult in this country however?
How do you value a football player anyway? They are ultimately worth what one club is willing to pay and the other sell at and we've seen clubs being sold for more AND less than might have been thought over the years.
I'm coming round to thinking that the new owners will have WFC's best interests at heart and will want the club to be successful, not just a club where they can loan out players. If nothing else just think of the riches of the Prem should they support the club in gaining promotion and maintaining their place there.
I would like the club to remain at heart British with a core of British, home grown players and I think that is possible to do even with maybe 4 or 5 loaned players AND for it to keep its community ethos.
Sorry Bas wasn't what you had him cracked up to be, and an apology for being so wrong would show you do possess a little humility, but like most bleeding heart Liberals you are so damned perfect, I can see you coercing you Mrs into a nice blue rinse .
Now why don't you pop along to Vicar Perfects fr a nice cucumber Sarnie, romancing about Jim Bonser while I'll smack the peronis suck on a spaghetti Bolognese and embrace the future.
By the way tool. Ashcroft become the majority shareholder the season Boofers messed up taking us back to the Prem. It was an ill informed business decision that involved buying cheap shares and selling when they went higher. He never professed to like football. There's a difference here fool.
Now if you don't mind I'm off polishing my DMs in readiness to join Bucklers Ultras
Now I hear Chorleywood Toffs FC are looking for nice civilised rent a fan like you
T o o l
StephenKilamanjiro
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2:44pm Tue 19 Jun 12
lutondown wrote:LIKE
garston tony wrote:Tony you are boring
Udinese co own 11 players, arent there rules making this difficult in this country however?
How do you value a football player anyway? They are ultimately worth what one club is willing to pay and the other sell at and we've seen clubs being sold for more AND less than might have been thought over the years.
I'm coming round to thinking that the new owners will have WFC's best interests at heart and will want the club to be successful, not just a club where they can loan out players. If nothing else just think of the riches of the Prem should they support the club in gaining promotion and maintaining their place there.
I would like the club to remain at heart British with a core of British, home grown players and I think that is possible to do even with maybe 4 or 5 loaned players AND for it to keep its community ethos.
Sorry Bas wasn't what you had him cracked up to be, and an apology for being so wrong would show you do possess a little humility, but like most bleeding heart Liberals you are so damned perfect, I can see you coercing you Mrs into a nice blue rinse .
Now why don't you pop along to Vicar Perfects fr a nice cucumber Sarnie, romancing about Jim Bonser while I'll smack the peronis suck on a spaghetti Bolognese and embrace the future.
By the way tool. Ashcroft become the majority shareholder the season Boofers messed up taking us back to the Prem. It was an ill informed business decision that involved buying cheap shares and selling when they went higher. He never professed to like football. There's a difference here fool.
Now if you don't mind I'm off polishing my DMs in readiness to join Bucklers Ultras
Now I hear Chorleywood Toffs FC are looking for nice civilised rent a fan like you
T o o l
rousman 2
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2:58pm Tue 19 Jun 12
northofwatfordpete wrote:yes
Did Graham Taylor know ?
garston tony
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3:18pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Well Lutondown, and Buckler et al, Pozzo has on at least two occassions been implicated in football related financial/betting scandals. Three if you include the still developing scandal that is currently rocking Italian football (corruption is so ingrained in Italian football by all accounts that they are seriously considering suspensing all professional football for three years as the only means of getting the game clean there). One of the scandals led to Udinese having points deducted and getting relegated and the other led to him resigning his position as chairman (possibly being made to resign).
In reality the worst that can be levelled at LB and his 15 months of ownership is that he has been naïve. Some would say that being naïve is far better than being corrupt.
As to LB not being what he was cracked up to be, let me see…. put money into the club to cover shortfall between income and expenditure. Check. New pitch. Check. Re open Red Lion. Check. Work about to commence on ground. Check. Invested in team. Check. Invested more than expected in team. Check. Hmm, LB appears to have indeed been all that he said he would be so why the need to apologise for him exactly?
Stop being delluded, now UNLIKE SOME I'm open minded and will judge Pozzo on what he does at and for WFC but Lutondown and co stop being childish and throwing insults at people who have a differing opion to yours.
Alex Hillcroft
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3:25pm Tue 19 Jun 12
D.unstable wrote:Oh, I see - irony. Too clever for me, I'm afraid. I read your post re George and Ginger and jumped to the conclusion that you are a twa t. How silly of me.
Alex Hillcroft wrote:Are you for real, ever heard of irony!!!
D.unstable wrote:You'd hoped George Michael or Ginger Spice would have been interested in buying Watford? FFS!!Retlas wrote: I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links. Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
lutondown
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4:05pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Alex Hillcroft wrote:That's the biggest backtrack ever Dunceunstable
D.unstable wrote:Oh, I see - irony. Too clever for me, I'm afraid. I read your post re George and Ginger and jumped to the conclusion that you are a twa t. How silly of me.
Alex Hillcroft wrote:Are you for real, ever heard of irony!!!
D.unstable wrote:You'd hoped George Michael or Ginger Spice would have been interested in buying Watford? FFS!!Retlas wrote: I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links. Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
You meant it, Georgie in his black leather and lovely private life along with an annoying Ginge, yeah right. No irony in your post just sadness. Bless
lutondown
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4:05pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Alex Hillcroft wrote:That's the biggest backtrack ever Dunceunstable
D.unstable wrote:Oh, I see - irony. Too clever for me, I'm afraid. I read your post re George and Ginger and jumped to the conclusion that you are a twa t. How silly of me.
Alex Hillcroft wrote:Are you for real, ever heard of irony!!!
D.unstable wrote:You'd hoped George Michael or Ginger Spice would have been interested in buying Watford? FFS!!Retlas wrote: I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links. Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
You meant it, Georgie in his black leather and lovely private life along with an annoying Ginge, yeah right. No irony in your post just sadness. Bless
Goldenboy1960
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4:22pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet wrote:ITV Digital was part of the reason. Fact is that GT left £6M in the Bank when he departed in May 2001. By Sept 2001 the £6m had disappeared with Vialli. The wages spent on Vega etc were ridiculous for a club of our size. That was the start of the issues at the club which further led to EJ's concert, the Russo Bros joining and the selling of the ground. Not suggesting it will happen with these guys, we don't know. All our clubs are being sold to foreign investors and that worries me. I don't think they care about communities and how they impact them. See Venkys.... There is no doubt the game is changing fast now. But not always for the better. Clubs are chasing Rainbows they will never get to and then the pack of cards fall. I know a lot of you would except the changes at Cardiff if it were Watford, but watch for the likes of Thaksin Shinawatra, Carson Yeung etc. We have not got the Infrastructure to challenge the top 10 clubs in the PL now. Those days have gone. The PR on our Academy has been brilliant, but perhaps it's not as good as the PR is saying. But my concern is for the long term welfare of our Football club and the understanding of what it is that makes the club special to all of us on here. I suspect GT knew this was coming and I don't blame him for getting out now. He has changed the history of our football club over the last 30 years and we need to build on what he has put in place. Only time will tell of course but please don't get on the bandwagon that lots of money will bring everything we wish for....there will always be a seedy side that goes with the money.
Goldenboy1960 wrote: Be careful what you wish for everyone... I remember the last Italian Manager we had, spent all the money that we had on poor players like Issa and Ramon Vega. We went down hill very quickly with Helguson playing Right Wing back etc and nearly went into Administration. Whatever the cricism for Bassini he has steadied the ship and seen us through a very difficult period. Whilst we need to move forward as a Football Club, we also need to be mindful of the club we are and what has made us successful. We have been punching above our weight for over thirty years when you look at the size of club we are and the attendances we get. I'm not sure a group of people from Italy would understand that. In my opinion this is fraught with danger and we should be careful about throwing the baby out with the bath water.Yes, Vialli was hopeless - but not the reason we nearly went under. That was the disgrace of ITV Digital buying Championship rights for £££Squillions, clubs like Watford spending silly money on wages and then ITVD saying 'actually, we don't have the money.' and going bust.
corbindallas
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4:22pm Tue 19 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:I don't think you will ever get any sense from them, not once have I had a proper answer to their anti Bassini stance because as we know there is no reason to their debate. The asking for a apology because they were right about Bassini will only be given once they can prove Bassini actually has done something wrong to Watford Football club, yet again he has not apart from not turning up to a open forum and even then he was ill so don't see what else he could have done.As for selling the club even then if it is in the best interest for Watford and he makes money ot of it so what, Watford FC is a business always will be, that is not a reason to be anti Bas as whilst owner he has invested in players, staff, equipment and the ground that is all any fan can ask a owner to do and he has done it.
Lutondown I find your and many of your fellow anti LB brigades posts these last two days hilarious. Many of you are jumping up and down with joy at LB selling up yet your main complaint about him (that wasn’t totally made up that is) was that he was an ex bankrupt.
Well Lutondown, and Buckler et al, Pozzo has on at least two occassions been implicated in football related financial/betting scandals. Three if you include the still developing scandal that is currently rocking Italian football (corruption is so ingrained in Italian football by all accounts that they are seriously considering suspensing all professional football for three years as the only means of getting the game clean there). One of the scandals led to Udinese having points deducted and getting relegated and the other led to him resigning his position as chairman (possibly being made to resign).
In reality the worst that can be levelled at LB and his 15 months of ownership is that he has been naïve. Some would say that being naïve is far better than being corrupt.
As to LB not being what he was cracked up to be, let me see…. put money into the club to cover shortfall between income and expenditure. Check. New pitch. Check. Re open Red Lion. Check. Work about to commence on ground. Check. Invested in team. Check. Invested more than expected in team. Check. Hmm, LB appears to have indeed been all that he said he would be so why the need to apologise for him exactly?
Stop being delluded, now UNLIKE SOME I'm open minded and will judge Pozzo on what he does at and for WFC but Lutondown and co stop being childish and throwing insults at people who have a differing opion to yours.
lutondown
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4:29pm Tue 19 Jun 12
corbindallas wrote:Things will materialise soon enough.
garston tony wrote:I don't think you will ever get any sense from them, not once have I had a proper answer to their anti Bassini stance because as we know there is no reason to their debate. The asking for a apology because they were right about Bassini will only be given once they can prove Bassini actually has done something wrong to Watford Football club, yet again he has not apart from not turning up to a open forum and even then he was ill so don't see what else he could have done.As for selling the club even then if it is in the best interest for Watford and he makes money ot of it so what, Watford FC is a business always will be, that is not a reason to be anti Bas as whilst owner he has invested in players, staff, equipment and the ground that is all any fan can ask a owner to do and he has done it.
Lutondown I find your and many of your fellow anti LB brigades posts these last two days hilarious. Many of you are jumping up and down with joy at LB selling up yet your main complaint about him (that wasn’t totally made up that is) was that he was an ex bankrupt.
Well Lutondown, and Buckler et al, Pozzo has on at least two occassions been implicated in football related financial/betting scandals. Three if you include the still developing scandal that is currently rocking Italian football (corruption is so ingrained in Italian football by all accounts that they are seriously considering suspensing all professional football for three years as the only means of getting the game clean there). One of the scandals led to Udinese having points deducted and getting relegated and the other led to him resigning his position as chairman (possibly being made to resign).
In reality the worst that can be levelled at LB and his 15 months of ownership is that he has been naïve. Some would say that being naïve is far better than being corrupt.
As to LB not being what he was cracked up to be, let me see…. put money into the club to cover shortfall between income and expenditure. Check. New pitch. Check. Re open Red Lion. Check. Work about to commence on ground. Check. Invested in team. Check. Invested more than expected in team. Check. Hmm, LB appears to have indeed been all that he said he would be so why the need to apologise for him exactly?
Stop being delluded, now UNLIKE SOME I'm open minded and will judge Pozzo on what he does at and for WFC but Lutondown and co stop being childish and throwing insults at people who have a differing opion to yours.
Bas may not be the golden boy you think he is
Now run along Tony, tht cucumber sandwich waits you.
Corby, for a cop your pretty dumb
Alex Hillcroft
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4:46pm Tue 19 Jun 12
corbindallas wrote:Wake up wooden top!
garston tony wrote:I don't think you will ever get any sense from them, not once have I had a proper answer to their anti Bassini stance because as we know there is no reason to their debate. The asking for a apology because they were right about Bassini will only be given once they can prove Bassini actually has done something wrong to Watford Football club, yet again he has not apart from not turning up to a open forum and even then he was ill so don't see what else he could have done.As for selling the club even then if it is in the best interest for Watford and he makes money ot of it so what, Watford FC is a business always will be, that is not a reason to be anti Bas as whilst owner he has invested in players, staff, equipment and the ground that is all any fan can ask a owner to do and he has done it.
Lutondown I find your and many of your fellow anti LB brigades posts these last two days hilarious. Many of you are jumping up and down with joy at LB selling up yet your main complaint about him (that wasn’t totally made up that is) was that he was an ex bankrupt.
Well Lutondown, and Buckler et al, Pozzo has on at least two occassions been implicated in football related financial/betting scandals. Three if you include the still developing scandal that is currently rocking Italian football (corruption is so ingrained in Italian football by all accounts that they are seriously considering suspensing all professional football for three years as the only means of getting the game clean there). One of the scandals led to Udinese having points deducted and getting relegated and the other led to him resigning his position as chairman (possibly being made to resign).
In reality the worst that can be levelled at LB and his 15 months of ownership is that he has been naïve. Some would say that being naïve is far better than being corrupt.
As to LB not being what he was cracked up to be, let me see…. put money into the club to cover shortfall between income and expenditure. Check. New pitch. Check. Re open Red Lion. Check. Work about to commence on ground. Check. Invested in team. Check. Invested more than expected in team. Check. Hmm, LB appears to have indeed been all that he said he would be so why the need to apologise for him exactly?
Stop being delluded, now UNLIKE SOME I'm open minded and will judge Pozzo on what he does at and for WFC but Lutondown and co stop being childish and throwing insults at people who have a differing opion to yours.
buckler
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4:51pm Tue 19 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:Hate the friendly image we have had and would love that kind of support as only a whimp like you would call it! Intimidating horrible ground to visit is exactly what I'm after! Let's have it Ultras.
buckler wrote:OMG, a supposed Watford supporter calling for an Ultra mob to be formed at the club. Hows about that going against the clubs whole ethos of the past 30+ years. Should have known this was the kind of 'support' you would want, very in keeping with your posts
Let's hope we can attract some younger supporters and have an Ultra Mob sorted! Bye bye Bas!
buckler
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4:55pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Colin West's mullet wrote:Bang on the money, that's right BUCKLER always first with the news, cheers Westy ! Keep talking like that and there's a chance of you joining our Ultras!
my one concern is that I'm gonna have to switch my italian alliegance from Lecce (for their WFC-esque shirts) to Udinese...other than that, bring it on!
And Buckler - you're extremely annoying, but fair play, you were bank on the money.
buckler
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5:00pm Tue 19 Jun 12
luther blissett wrote:Oh dear little Luther that jealousy of yours is rearing its ugly head yet again! I know you snoop on me on twitter so why not come and break the ice? Affleck did and look what I've done for him! Come on son, do it!
Colin West's mullet wrote:Bang on the money for just repeating what Affleck was saying on Twitter?
my one concern is that I'm gonna have to switch my italian alliegance from Lecce (for their WFC-esque shirts) to Udinese...other than that, bring it on! And Buckler - you're extremely annoying, but fair play, you were bank on the money.
mrbankrupt
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5:00pm Tue 19 Jun 12
buckler wrote:dont't bother with him Bucks.The jerk and his i love bas pals are an embarrassment to this club.
garston tony wrote:Hate the friendly image we have had and would love that kind of support as only a whimp like you would call it! Intimidating horrible ground to visit is exactly what I'm after! Let's have it Ultras.
buckler wrote:OMG, a supposed Watford supporter calling for an Ultra mob to be formed at the club. Hows about that going against the clubs whole ethos of the past 30+ years. Should have known this was the kind of 'support' you would want, very in keeping with your posts
Let's hope we can attract some younger supporters and have an Ultra Mob sorted! Bye bye Bas!
I can't believe they have the front still to be on here.
garston tony
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6:48pm Tue 19 Jun 12
mrbankrupt wrote:Like i said, the fact you want ultras says so much about you. thugs who dont intimidate but fight opposition supporters whilst extorting money from the club and those associated with it in return for not doing them over and demanding a say in how the place is run. How enlighted, just what football needs.
buckler wrote:dont't bother with him Bucks.The jerk and his i love bas pals are an embarrassment to this club.
garston tony wrote:Hate the friendly image we have had and would love that kind of support as only a whimp like you would call it! Intimidating horrible ground to visit is exactly what I'm after! Let's have it Ultras.
buckler wrote:OMG, a supposed Watford supporter calling for an Ultra mob to be formed at the club. Hows about that going against the clubs whole ethos of the past 30+ years. Should have known this was the kind of 'support' you would want, very in keeping with your posts
Let's hope we can attract some younger supporters and have an Ultra Mob sorted! Bye bye Bas!
I can't believe they have the front still to be on here.
And Mrbankrupt, i'm a jerk for being open minded and not hating someone based on no actual facts. Hmm, thats not the definition most people would give of that word. But then the anti LB lot dont seem to have a grasp on reality.
Just because LB is selling does not make anything claims you made against him correct either by the way.
Childish behaviour as i've said before with childish reasoning to boot from the anti LB brigade.
Oh and buckler I see Pozzo is distancing himself from the deal, seems your prancing with joy was somewhat premature
garston tony
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6:58pm Tue 19 Jun 12
lutondown wrote:If 'things' materialise then fair enough, but until then i'll keep my open mind and not take the word of people who have not had any proof to back up any of their claims so far and who resort to name calling, threats of violence and other childish behaviour towards people who have a differing opinion to them and dont made decisions based on flights of fancy.
corbindallas wrote:Things will materialise soon enough.
garston tony wrote:I don't think you will ever get any sense from them, not once have I had a proper answer to their anti Bassini stance because as we know there is no reason to their debate. The asking for a apology because they were right about Bassini will only be given once they can prove Bassini actually has done something wrong to Watford Football club, yet again he has not apart from not turning up to a open forum and even then he was ill so don't see what else he could have done.As for selling the club even then if it is in the best interest for Watford and he makes money ot of it so what, Watford FC is a business always will be, that is not a reason to be anti Bas as whilst owner he has invested in players, staff, equipment and the ground that is all any fan can ask a owner to do and he has done it.
Lutondown I find your and many of your fellow anti LB brigades posts these last two days hilarious. Many of you are jumping up and down with joy at LB selling up yet your main complaint about him (that wasn’t totally made up that is) was that he was an ex bankrupt.
Well Lutondown, and Buckler et al, Pozzo has on at least two occassions been implicated in football related financial/betting scandals. Three if you include the still developing scandal that is currently rocking Italian football (corruption is so ingrained in Italian football by all accounts that they are seriously considering suspensing all professional football for three years as the only means of getting the game clean there). One of the scandals led to Udinese having points deducted and getting relegated and the other led to him resigning his position as chairman (possibly being made to resign).
In reality the worst that can be levelled at LB and his 15 months of ownership is that he has been naïve. Some would say that being naïve is far better than being corrupt.
As to LB not being what he was cracked up to be, let me see…. put money into the club to cover shortfall between income and expenditure. Check. New pitch. Check. Re open Red Lion. Check. Work about to commence on ground. Check. Invested in team. Check. Invested more than expected in team. Check. Hmm, LB appears to have indeed been all that he said he would be so why the need to apologise for him exactly?
Stop being delluded, now UNLIKE SOME I'm open minded and will judge Pozzo on what he does at and for WFC but Lutondown and co stop being childish and throwing insults at people who have a differing opion to yours.
Bas may not be the golden boy you think he is
Now run along Tony, tht cucumber sandwich waits you.
Corby, for a cop your pretty dumb
As i've said before, just because LB may be selling doesnt mean any of your claims against him are proven.
By the way, if 'things' do materialise I will admit to being wrong about him BASED ON FACTS but the anti LB brigade will still have acted in an incredibly pathetic manner.
garston tony
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7:06pm Tue 19 Jun 12
Oh the double standards
lutondown
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7:35pm Tue 19 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:The key word is implicated, Bas was a bankrupt, no doubt. Don Pozzo has been proven to be....? Nothing other than a very rich and successful businessman. Look you have a blue square mentality and hate progress , and us Ultras are going to run you out of town backed up by the Mafioso.
And I assume that the fact you havent responded to the fact that Pozzo has been involved in football related dodgy dealings means that you're okay with that. Isnt that double standards? Rant and rave against LB because he was a former bankrupt but happily welcome someone heavily implicated in match fixing etc.
Oh the double standards
buckler
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7:36pm Tue 19 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:You are everything that's wrong with our club, in fact rephrase that , I meant our country! Forza Watford Ultras.
And I assume that the fact you havent responded to the fact that Pozzo has been involved in football related dodgy dealings means that you're okay with that. Isnt that double standards? Rant and rave against LB because he was a former bankrupt but happily welcome someone heavily implicated in match fixing etc.
Oh the double standards
D.unstable
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12:27am Wed 20 Jun 12
lutondown wrote:Yeah right my little scummer down, Georgie Peorgie told me he met you once in the lavs at the Town Hall underpass, do you not remember? As for Hillsoft twa t, who are you, nobber!!!
Alex Hillcroft wrote:That's the biggest backtrack ever Dunceunstable You meant it, Georgie in his black leather and lovely private life along with an annoying Ginge, yeah right. No irony in your post just sadness. BlessD.unstable wrote:Oh, I see - irony. Too clever for me, I'm afraid. I read your post re George and Ginger and jumped to the conclusion that you are a twa t. How silly of me.Alex Hillcroft wrote:Are you for real, ever heard of irony!!!D.unstable wrote:You'd hoped George Michael or Ginger Spice would have been interested in buying Watford? FFS!!Retlas wrote: I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links. Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
Nothing wrong with a bit of Ginge though. Not having that.
lutondown
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5:37am Wed 20 Jun 12
D.unstable wrote:Yeah your right I did meet poor Georgie, I tried to straighten him out, sadly never worked. Even worse than his nasty habits is he does not like football.
lutondown wrote:Yeah right my little scummer down, Georgie Peorgie told me he met you once in the lavs at the Town Hall underpass, do you not remember? As for Hillsoft twa t, who are you, nobber!!!
Alex Hillcroft wrote:That's the biggest backtrack ever Dunceunstable You meant it, Georgie in his black leather and lovely private life along with an annoying Ginge, yeah right. No irony in your post just sadness. BlessD.unstable wrote:Oh, I see - irony. Too clever for me, I'm afraid. I read your post re George and Ginger and jumped to the conclusion that you are a twa t. How silly of me.Alex Hillcroft wrote:Are you for real, ever heard of irony!!!D.unstable wrote:You'd hoped George Michael or Ginger Spice would have been interested in buying Watford? FFS!!Retlas wrote: I have not posted here before and would just like to say that in all my time in watching Watford, since the early 60's and Jim Bonser, the only person that cared two figs about the club was Elton. Careful what you wish for, they're all chancers.Indeed although unfortunately he is now pre-occupied with his baby and thousands of pounds of flowers every week. I had hoped that either George Michael or Ginger Spice had been interested in taking up the challenge with their local links. Aparently the Pozzo's are worth Billions, but not sure iif they will want to put much in until we hear from them.
Nothing wrong with a bit of Ginge though. Not having that.
As for Heinz Spice, like said she's a stinker.
garston tony
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10:13am Wed 20 Jun 12
lutondown wrote:Well Lutondown his actions led to Udinese being deducted points and relegated as a consequence, plus there is a telephone call recorded between him and another chairman that suggested quite strongly that they were up to no good. Whilst he defended that quite strongly, getting away with it but not the other chairman by all accounts, he still had to step down as chairman of Udinese and I understand he is not allowed back.
garston tony wrote: And I assume that the fact you havent responded to the fact that Pozzo has been involved in football related dodgy dealings means that you're okay with that. Isnt that double standards? Rant and rave against LB because he was a former bankrupt but happily welcome someone heavily implicated in match fixing etc. Oh the double standardsThe key word is implicated, Bas was a bankrupt, no doubt. Don Pozzo has been proven to be....? Nothing other than a very rich and successful businessman. Look you have a blue square mentality and hate progress , and us Ultras are going to run you out of town backed up by the Mafioso.
Quite strong implications I would say. Now despite this im still keeping an open mind about him, its just a shame that you're so immature you cant deal with the fact that people have a different opinion from you and your 'ultra' mates on LB.
As to 'us ultras' a group of children putting their ties around their forehead acting tough is laughable and your threats show that its people like you who need to be dis associated from not just WFC but football altogether. Truly pathetic
garston tony
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10:16am Wed 20 Jun 12
buckler wrote:Buckler, WFC is a family club and has been for many decades since the original days of Elton and GT. I'm not against progress or success but that family and community ethos is precisely what is RIGHT about the club.
garston tony wrote: And I assume that the fact you havent responded to the fact that Pozzo has been involved in football related dodgy dealings means that you're okay with that. Isnt that double standards? Rant and rave against LB because he was a former bankrupt but happily welcome someone heavily implicated in match fixing etc. Oh the double standardsYou are everything that's wrong with our club, in fact rephrase that , I meant our country! Forza Watford Ultras.
As I said to Lutondown, people like you have no place not just at WFC but in football at all. Youre a sad immature individual who I take is also greatly unhappy about our current owner being a former bankrupt but more than happy to welcome with open arms someone who has had dodgy dealings directly linked to football. The reasoning of children is so interesting at times
WFC4ever
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12:12pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Most fans go to watch their team win and if we carry on letting players go we'll never improve.
lutondown
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3:51pm Wed 20 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:You come say that to my face sonny
lutondown wrote:Well Lutondown his actions led to Udinese being deducted points and relegated as a consequence, plus there is a telephone call recorded between him and another chairman that suggested quite strongly that they were up to no good. Whilst he defended that quite strongly, getting away with it but not the other chairman by all accounts, he still had to step down as chairman of Udinese and I understand he is not allowed back.
garston tony wrote: And I assume that the fact you havent responded to the fact that Pozzo has been involved in football related dodgy dealings means that you're okay with that. Isnt that double standards? Rant and rave against LB because he was a former bankrupt but happily welcome someone heavily implicated in match fixing etc. Oh the double standardsThe key word is implicated, Bas was a bankrupt, no doubt. Don Pozzo has been proven to be....? Nothing other than a very rich and successful businessman. Look you have a blue square mentality and hate progress , and us Ultras are going to run you out of town backed up by the Mafioso.
Quite strong implications I would say. Now despite this im still keeping an open mind about him, its just a shame that you're so immature you cant deal with the fact that people have a different opinion from you and your 'ultra' mates on LB.
As to 'us ultras' a group of children putting their ties around their forehead acting tough is laughable and your threats show that its people like you who need to be dis associated from not just WFC but football altogether. Truly pathetic
You'll be consigned o watching Cassiobury rangers with the other nonentities
You really are a spineless jerk
garston tony
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10:09am Thu 21 Jun 12
Do form your little 'ultra' group, I doubt you'll have that many interested and it'll just make it easier to ban the trouble makers from games
lutondown
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12:51pm Thu 21 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:Tell you something Tony, ive never belonged to a gang nor ever will, irony gees right over your sanctimonious head.
Oh please, do grow up lutondown.
Do form your little 'ultra' group, I doubt you'll have that many interested and it'll just make it easier to ban the trouble makers from games
I'm big and ugly enough to stand on my own two feet. However when you in your keyboard bravery use such words as pathetic and so on, you invite scorn.
Now get along to your lib dem pink dalliance day, cucumber award you
garston tony
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2:12pm Thu 21 Jun 12
lutondown
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3:16pm Thu 21 Jun 12
garston tony wrote:Well come on and do so
Lutondown, i'd hapily call you pathetic to your face dont you worry about that. The problem is a mature person wouldnt respond by making threats direct or veiled of violence.
Margate Horn
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8:28pm Thu 21 Jun 12
garston tony
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lutondown says...
7:43pm Mon 18 Jun 12
The Fat Prophets are on a roll!