Loach to join Ipswich for less than £200,000 (From Watford Observer)
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Ipswich Town to sign Watford goalkeeper Scott Loach for less than £200,000
6:59am Thursday 19th July 2012 in Watford FC News
By Frank Smith, Deputy Group Sports Editor
Hornets goalkeeper Scott Loach will complete his transfer to Ipswich Town today in a move which the Watford Observer understands is worth less than £200,000.
Loach completed his medical last night and is set to join the club he supported as a boy, and played for as a youngster.
Like most deals, the transfer fee is likely to be 'undisclosed' but we understand the sum will be less than £200,000.
The 24-year-old joined Watford in 2006 and made 163 appearances for the club.
Watford pulled out of a deal to sign Tom Heaton following the club's takeover and Loach's replacement is expected to be either Carlo Cudicini or Manuel Almunia.
Comments(61)
dal8oy
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7:26am Thu 19 Jul 12
BarryTheHornet wrote:I agree. It is a shame we couldn't sell him a couple of seasons ago while he was in the U21 set up. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
We're all going to say the same thing aren't we?!
£300k - is that all??
However, whilst on paper he may be worth more, the reality is that's probably good business.
He has huge weaknesses as a keeper and, in my view, defenders never had confidence in him.
I wish him well at Ipswich though. Good luck Scott.
WatfordWorld1
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7:45am Thu 19 Jul 12
In line with this, I can't help thinking this is the begining of a long clearout. After watching the players on Tuesday night, I can't see 3/4 of the squad being at vicarage road at the end of the season. Let's hope things do not move too quickly otherwise we will have a brand new team with no tme to gel.
Coney84
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7:53am Thu 19 Jul 12
WatfordWorld1 wrote:I agree. Loach certainly isn't our weakest link. Yes he has had a few dodgey moments but he is only a young keeper. Should have only let him go when we've actually signed a replacement.
How can this be good business sense. 2 seasons ago he was worth £5m and on his way to spurs, now he goes to a team, in competition with us for £300k. I can understand they are giving him the chance he wanted, and he has not had a great couple of years; however people forget that he is just 24, there is at least 10yrs of top flight football left in...that 10yrs of maturity etc. I know we are more financially secure than in recent time however I can help to think this is a poor decision.
In line with this, I can't help thinking this is the begining of a long clearout. After watching the players on Tuesday night, I can't see 3/4 of the squad being at vicarage road at the end of the season. Let's hope things do not move too quickly otherwise we will have a brand new team with no tme to gel.
Bringe
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7:53am Thu 19 Jul 12
jasonwatford
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7:54am Thu 19 Jul 12
BobT44
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8:03am Thu 19 Jul 12
BarryTheHornet wrote:As he is young and could still come good, I would hope that we have secured a decent sell on percentage to compensate for the low fee
We're all going to say the same thing aren't we?!
£300k - is that all??
However, whilst on paper he may be worth more, the reality is that's probably good business.
He has huge weaknesses as a keeper and, in my view, defenders never had confidence in him.
I wish him well at Ipswich though. Good luck Scott.
hornets66
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8:05am Thu 19 Jul 12
Joking apart I think its about right as his value has always been inflated/
lovestospouge
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8:12am Thu 19 Jul 12
90% of transers these days youonly pay 40% up front.
Good luck to Loach, I just dont rate him at this level.
Chris the Vic
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8:12am Thu 19 Jul 12
Forget your gut feels, hunches etc.The facts are simple
Three years ago Scott despite his lack of years was a very good keeper.
Since then he has gone backwards and cost us a lot of points.
The difference between him and Tamas was chalk and cheese and UTD let him go on a free.
As for Scott having ten years at the top, I hope someone teaches him to take command of his penalty area and catch the odd cross, because without those basic skills he will not make it.
What might come back to bite us is if Scott suddenly starts playing well and that may be a reflection of the way he reacts to coaching.
if that happens those who defend Alec on the basis of him as a person and a player may well have to revise their opinion of him as a coach.
Dannyseabs
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9:09am Thu 19 Jul 12
We all need to let GZ put his mark on the team and judge him come 1st September and not now
LesCSP
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9:10am Thu 19 Jul 12
I think most regular supporters would agree on the good points and bad points about his game.
How long can you keep saying potential?
Frankie Frazer
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9:10am Thu 19 Jul 12
IMO if he does get back to his best I just don't get how it has anything to do with Alec? Loach's confidence was shot over the last season and he will now be going to a new team where the majority of supporters will be behind him, if he does well it will be down to those factors rather than Alec not doing his job correctly! A keeper is a different beast to other players and confidence is the key, you cannot train confidence only encourage, if that doesn't happen then no amount of coaching will help!!! Just my opinion tho ..
For me this is the right move for both player and Watford, regardless of the fee being discussed he needs to move on ....
Frank Smith
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9:16am Thu 19 Jul 12
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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9:17am Thu 19 Jul 12
jasonwatford wrote:we will get loose change for those 2 or end up paying off their contracts to get rid.
Yes should have sold to spurs back then..most fans wouls have been happy as we knew he was not worth 2million. 300k is a decent price for a poor player....id let Joe garner and mark yeates go for same price or less.
All of these changes will succeed or fail based on the quality of the replacements. If the Pozzos want to accept what some think is a low price, let them. We are no longer living hand to mouth where the ££ we have available to spend is totally linked to the ££ we receive from sales.
Loach is a subjective call, he may come good, he may not, all our opinions are valid. However if we get in a great keeper in who commands his box and exudes confidence we will all be happy. If we get a keeper who is past it, paid too much and equally worrying at the back, we will all be unhappy.
Lets see what happens.
Watford Willie
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9:20am Thu 19 Jul 12
jasonwatford wrote:I'd give someone a £100k for each to take Yeates and Garner off our hands.
Yes should have sold to spurs back then..most fans wouls have been happy as we knew he was not worth 2million. 300k is a decent price for a poor player....id let Joe garner and mark yeates go for same price or less.
leonhornet
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9:22am Thu 19 Jul 12
mattymashup
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9:34am Thu 19 Jul 12
SAHornet
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9:36am Thu 19 Jul 12
Chamberlain is partly to blame. A good coach can and should inject both confidence and technique. Loach had neither so where was Chamberlain.
TK took his place and look what happened to our results and progress up the league. Our defence become settled and much more able.Sorry, but the stats just don't lie.
I wish Loach well but we just need to stop talk about his potential, his age, his past etc etc and move on to better things now. End of....
Wimbledonhorn
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9:41am Thu 19 Jul 12
southernhornet
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9:51am Thu 19 Jul 12
This will end up costing us money. Whoever we bring in will be number 1, it looks like it will be an old/experienced goalkeeper - so say he gets injured and we are required to get another one in on loan we could have to pay a loan fee or fee abs wages combined above 200K!!!
rousman 2
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10:03am Thu 19 Jul 12
Frank Smith wrote:That is not very good business at all then is it.
Just wanted to draw it to your attention that the article has been edited as I have just been informed the figure is closer to £200,000 rather than £300,000
rousman 2
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10:04am Thu 19 Jul 12
Holly68
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10:10am Thu 19 Jul 12
Dr,Oftaw
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10:20am Thu 19 Jul 12
tommy gunn
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10:25am Thu 19 Jul 12
garston tony
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10:29am Thu 19 Jul 12
Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
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10:29am Thu 19 Jul 12
rousman 2 wrote:Yes we do, possibly 20% my mate is a Lincoln fan and he was doing cartwheels when the loan move with a view to £2 million nearly happened. Under 200k is crazy, totally undervalued but then they gave us too much for good old tamas. Agreed he had to move on, far too error prone but I think we have folded a bit easily on this deal as per usual!
Do we not owe Lincoln money from the deal as well ??
AngelHornet
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11:01am Thu 19 Jul 12
BobT44
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11:04am Thu 19 Jul 12
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Still hope we've got a sell on clause with Loach
Feff
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11:07am Thu 19 Jul 12
akureyri
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11:12am Thu 19 Jul 12
jasonwatford
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11:22am Thu 19 Jul 12
SAHornet
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11:28am Thu 19 Jul 12
Feff wrote:Nonsense post Feff old sport. It was his constant errors and ridiculous tweeting that did for him. He was the architect of his own downfall, I'm afraid. Now ffs, move on, can't we.
It was some of you guys who made Loach lose his confidence, by your constant sniping at him. You don't in a few months go from England prospect to dodgy keeper. £200,000 is a bargain price but, chances are, he didn't want to stay to be abused by you lot. Realistic price? £500,000.
Lloydinio
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11:33am Thu 19 Jul 12
!!! he is worth over £1 million at least
Dunderdale Pinner
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11:38am Thu 19 Jul 12
tommy gunn
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12:00pm Thu 19 Jul 12
bushey tales
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12:01pm Thu 19 Jul 12
lutondown
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12:06pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Feff, If you believe what you've written, you obviously never went to Chelski when he leaked some very soft goals, that's when Rednapp stopped pursuing him, being present at the game. He can make stunning saves, but that's no good when you cant do the basics well. On top of that he always tweeted the blame elsewhere.
I wish him well but I don't think he'll come back and haunt us, anyway we'll be prem soon.
West Country Hornet
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12:06pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Chris the Vic wrote:Sad though it is I have to agree. Scott's faults were plain to see and so you have to ask the question what was Alec coaching him? Has to take command of his penalty area, communication etc.
It is very good business. Forget your gut feels, hunches etc.The facts are simple Three years ago Scott despite his lack of years was a very good keeper. Since then he has gone backwards and cost us a lot of points. The difference between him and Tamas was chalk and cheese and UTD let him go on a free. As for Scott having ten years at the top, I hope someone teaches him to take command of his penalty area and catch the odd cross, because without those basic skills he will not make it. What might come back to bite us is if Scott suddenly starts playing well and that may be a reflection of the way he reacts to coaching. if that happens those who defend Alec on the basis of him as a person and a player may well have to revise their opinion of him as a coach.
We wish him well but as Duxbury has said 'Watford's ambitions have changed overnight' and that means moving some players on. It's the modern way.
As for the replacements mentioned. Cudiccini over Almunia but both just rumours - should have signed the lad from Cardiff.
lutondown
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12:06pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Feff, If you believe what you've written, you obviously never went to Chelski when he leaked some very soft goals, that's when Rednapp stopped pursuing him, being present at the game. He can make stunning saves, but that's no good when you cant do the basics well. On top of that he always tweeted the blame elsewhere.
I wish him well but I don't think he'll come back and haunt us, anyway we'll be prem soon.
Hornet Cornet
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12:10pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Grigg
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12:17pm Thu 19 Jul 12
bushey tales
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12:41pm Thu 19 Jul 12
'I was behind the Watford goal at the last home game against Middlesborough when Loach made three outstanding saves which kept us in that game. One of these was magnificent and I would judge it as good a save as I have seen for a very long time. We went on to win that game and Scott's contribution made me feel that he would be far better away from Watford where, without the bile of so-called fans whose hostility to him meant he could never recover his confidence, he could yet go on to become the great keeper that so many knowledgeable people believed he could be. Ipswich could just that kind of place and I wish him well; we may yet come to regret the way we abused this young man.'
With that endorsement it's no wonder their fans are excited about signing him!
AMP4WFC
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12:43pm Thu 19 Jul 12
I can see a potentiel PL team comming this season.....
Harrydownunder
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12:45pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Watford robbed again.
McHornet
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12:45pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Contradictory i know...
Andrew1963
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1:15pm Thu 19 Jul 12
jasonwatford
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1:58pm Thu 19 Jul 12
lutondown
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2:02pm Thu 19 Jul 12
bushey tales wrote:The same post he put on a thread on the WO
OK, so which rascal put this on the Ipswich fans site.......
'I was behind the Watford goal at the last home game against Middlesborough when Loach made three outstanding saves which kept us in that game. One of these was magnificent and I would judge it as good a save as I have seen for a very long time. We went on to win that game and Scott's contribution made me feel that he would be far better away from Watford where, without the bile of so-called fans whose hostility to him meant he could never recover his confidence, he could yet go on to become the great keeper that so many knowledgeable people believed he could be. Ipswich could just that kind of place and I wish him well; we may yet come to regret the way we abused this young man.'
With that endorsement it's no wonder their fans are excited about signing him!
Think his name is Pappa Loach
lutondown
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2:06pm Thu 19 Jul 12
McHornet wrote:That's a real cutting edge analysis Mac the knife! Take it your not known for sticking your neck out?
My opinion of Loach is simple, we could have worse, but we could have better...
Contradictory i know...
Eastsussexhornet
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2:36pm Thu 19 Jul 12
BarryTheHornet wrote:I wasn't going to say that!
We're all going to say the same thing aren't we?!
£300k - is that all??
However, whilst on paper he may be worth more, the reality is that's probably good business.
He has huge weaknesses as a keeper and, in my view, defenders never had confidence in him.
I wish him well at Ipswich though. Good luck Scott.
McHornet
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2:57pm Thu 19 Jul 12
lutondown wrote:I like it up here on the fence...
McHornet wrote:That's a real cutting edge analysis Mac the knife! Take it your not known for sticking your neck out?
My opinion of Loach is simple, we could have worse, but we could have better...
Contradictory i know...
No, what i meant to say, and failed... is that while we couldn't afford a better keeper, Loach was good enough! Now we can afford better, lets get better!
SAHornet
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3:31pm Thu 19 Jul 12
lutondown wrote:Ha ha ha same old cutting wit, LD. Keep it going ,son
bushey tales wrote:The same post he put on a thread on the WO
OK, so which rascal put this on the Ipswich fans site.......
'I was behind the Watford goal at the last home game against Middlesborough when Loach made three outstanding saves which kept us in that game. One of these was magnificent and I would judge it as good a save as I have seen for a very long time. We went on to win that game and Scott's contribution made me feel that he would be far better away from Watford where, without the bile of so-called fans whose hostility to him meant he could never recover his confidence, he could yet go on to become the great keeper that so many knowledgeable people believed he could be. Ipswich could just that kind of place and I wish him well; we may yet come to regret the way we abused this young man.'
With that endorsement it's no wonder their fans are excited about signing him!
Think his name is Pappa Loach
lutondown
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3:43pm Thu 19 Jul 12
McHornet wrote:See, I knew if I coaxed it out of you it would come! Now after me
lutondown wrote:I like it up here on the fence...
McHornet wrote:That's a real cutting edge analysis Mac the knife! Take it your not known for sticking your neck out?
My opinion of Loach is simple, we could have worse, but we could have better...
Contradictory i know...
No, what i meant to say, and failed... is that while we couldn't afford a better keeper, Loach was good enough! Now we can afford better, lets get better!
Loach is pants...
He'd lose his lunch,
So he's off to Suffolk
To Carrot crunch
He'll let em in
By a cricket score
That's why dear mac
He ain't here no more
lutondown
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3:45pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Harrydownunder wrote:Sale of the season for Watford
Bargain of the season for Ipswich.
Watford robbed again.
Ipswich have been robbed
Been a poor time for the farmers too, poor simple country bumpkins. Bless
bonserout
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5:27pm Thu 19 Jul 12
I think he has the pottential to regain his form but on this seasons performance I don't think Ipswich have that much of a bargain.
lutondown
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5:54pm Thu 19 Jul 12
bonserout wrote:Bonserout. Keenout! God do i remember the night that we got relegated to Div 4 and that chant reverberating Around the Vic.
Before anyone criticises Zola etc for accepting such a low figure ask yourself would you have been happy to pay £200,000 for him !!!
I think he has the pottential to regain his form but on this seasons performance I don't think Ipswich have that much of a bargain.
losing to Walsall 3-2 and Scullys last game for us. Remember all the Rookery invading the pitch and the loo roll I smuggled in got Bonser bang on the nut as he left the directors box.
Thing is, what was the thing with chucking loo rolls about? Always the soft ones too.....
lutondown
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5:54pm Thu 19 Jul 12
bonserout wrote:Bonserout. Keenout! God do i remember the night that we got relegated to Div 4 and that chant reverberating Around the Vic.
Before anyone criticises Zola etc for accepting such a low figure ask yourself would you have been happy to pay £200,000 for him !!!
I think he has the pottential to regain his form but on this seasons performance I don't think Ipswich have that much of a bargain.
losing to Walsall 3-2 and Scullys last game for us. Remember all the Rookery invading the pitch and the loo roll I smuggled in got Bonser bang on the nut as he left the directors box.
Thing is, what was the thing with chucking loo rolls about? Always the soft ones too.....
radlettman
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10:29pm Thu 19 Jul 12
Off somewhere else now ... haven't we been here before...?
And looking at our so called WFC professional footballers on Tuesday at Borehamwood ... they already look demoralised and couldn't string two good passes together.
Its going to be a long old season...
Andrew1963
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10:49pm Thu 19 Jul 12
BarryTheHornet says...
7:23am Thu 19 Jul 12
£300k - is that all??
However, whilst on paper he may be worth more, the reality is that's probably good business.
He has huge weaknesses as a keeper and, in my view, defenders never had confidence in him.
I wish him well at Ipswich though. Good luck Scott.