Wilson set to leave Watford (From Watford Observer)

OK someone tell me how this is 'good news!! Watford revolution my ar*e

Calm down ! This is standard procedure for a take over, I honestly have never known such a pessimistic bunch of supporters ..
I will tell u why it is 'good news' we have been struggling to survive for the last 7 years or so and now we have stability, that is quite obviously good news !!! It would be a shame if Ross Wilson left but lets be honest the Pozzos have a good record throughout footballs for player recruitment ....

Frankie Frazer wrote:
Calm down ! This is standard procedure for a take over, I honestly have never known such a pessimistic bunch of supporters .. I will tell u why it is 'good news' we have been struggling to survive for the last 7 years or so and now we have stability, that is quite obviously good news !!! It would be a shame if Ross Wilson left but lets be honest the Pozzos have a good record throughout footballs for player recruitment ....

Perhaps some people are pessimistic because of fairly recent history (ie we have had our fingers burned TWICE in the last 10 years and the club has nearly gone under as a result). Personally, I am cautiously optimistic but I think it's OK to be slightly dubious here. Having said that, Pozzos do have a very good record!! By the way WO, who did Ross Wilson sign for us? What is his track record?

We don't need him anymore, we have a new regime with a WORLD SCOUTING NETWORK ! Like all recruitment guys, his signings were hit and miss, quite a few miss (Iwelumo, Yeates, Garner to name but three). Move on people, those that want to live in the past and frightened of change lack ambition

It's all part of the new broom sweeping clean. The expectation amongst thinking fans is that the new worldwide network of scouts that we are a part of, can only be better that the former Falkirk man's outreach. Simples.

This is the single most disappointing piece of news to come out of the club since the takeover. I am not negative infact i am very positive and fully behind the Pozzos and believe that over time they will be good for us. Presumably this decision has been manufactured by Duxberry or Nani or maybe both but Ross Wilson should have been retained at the club in some capacity at least.

Recruitment wise as the season went on we did have some excellent loan signings with Hogg the best permanents.

Irrespective of the Pozzos scouting network which is very impressive on paper Wilson played a much bigger role in the club on the contracts and administration and academy with Nick Cox and as far as I know was one of the most respected people amongst club staff.

We,as fans have to take a look at ourselves as well sometimes. This guy turned down bigger opportunities to stay with the orns yet we would have been the first to criticise a lack of loyalty for any departing staff. That loyalty should have been returned by WFC.

I for one wish to thank Wilson for the contribution and positivity he has made on my club. I met him twice at functions and he always had time to talk openly with me and others and looked like he was geneueinely progressing the club. I will be asking for answers at the first opportunity as to why he was not retained at the club even in another role.

If I was putting in millions of pounds of funding I am sure as dammit going to take my own people rather than take what "is there".

Sure, there may be some very good staff and Ross Wilson is very well respected- but if my company has worked with selected individuals for years then its normal to take them into the business with you.

stevemag wrote:
If I was putting in millions of pounds of funding I am sure as dammit going to take my own people rather than take what "is there".

Sure, there may be some very good staff and Ross Wilson is very well respected- but if my company has worked with selected individuals for years then its normal to take them into the business with you.

Absolutely I cannot disagree and think the same as you totally. BUT that is what makes the moving out of Wilson particularly disappointing. The Pozzos have no link with the two men that took the opportunity of buying Watford to them remember. Duxberry and Nani have not worked for Udinese or Grenada and have not worked with the Pozzos for years. Had the Pozzos bought us over and brought their own people with them then fair enough I see why that wold be important. But the Pozzos have bought the club after the "project" was taken to them, by Duxberry and Nani.

southernhornet wrote:
This is the single most disappointing piece of news to come out of the club since the takeover. I am not negative infact i am very positive and fully behind the Pozzos and believe that over time they will be good for us. Presumably this decision has been manufactured by Duxberry or Nani or maybe both but Ross Wilson should have been retained at the club in some capacity at least.

Recruitment wise as the season went on we did have some excellent loan signings with Hogg the best permanents.

Irrespective of the Pozzos scouting network which is very impressive on paper Wilson played a much bigger role in the club on the contracts and administration and academy with Nick Cox and as far as I know was one of the most respected people amongst club staff.

We,as fans have to take a look at ourselves as well sometimes. This guy turned down bigger opportunities to stay with the orns yet we would have been the first to criticise a lack of loyalty for any departing staff. That loyalty should have been returned by WFC.

I for one wish to thank Wilson for the contribution and positivity he has made on my club. I met him twice at functions and he always had time to talk openly with me and others and looked like he was geneueinely progressing the club. I will be asking for answers at the first opportunity as to why he was not retained at the club even in another role.

LOL ... what role ball boy perhaps?

What is it with you SA Hornet that make you think these guys will take a step backwards? Wilson has gone to a lot of time and trouble to earn that DOF role and he'll have little trouble finding another club.

SA you obviously don't have a grip on reality, it's moan, moan, moan every time for every little thing.... Get on board or get lost.

sorry I do mean southern hornet ... I really must wake up

Yeah he will have little trouble finding another club but I would have liked him to remain a hornet for now. Hopefully we will get some info from the club at some point?!!!! And get to hear from him.

Yeah he will have little trouble finding another club but I would have liked him to remain a hornet for now. Hopefully we will get some info from the club at some point?!!!! And get to hear from him.

Mixed feelings. Just wondering who will scout our country for talented youngsters. Can't see Nani doing it!

I'm surprised they didn't want to keep Ross to cover the Uk market, at least short term. The Pozzos worldwide network may be top class but have they unearthed many UK gems recently ?? Maybe GLN already has a better network ? Or maybe we will rely 100% on overseas players and 30+ year old ex prem players ??

They've made a number of big decisions since arriving - there's no reason all fans should feel obliged to agree with all of them or risk being told to "get lost". We're still heading in the right direction.

southernhornet wrote:
Yeah he will have little trouble finding another club but I would have liked him to remain a hornet for now. Hopefully we will get some info from the club at some point?!!!! And get to hear from him.

yes GT may be right but the golden boys will also reach the premiership with or without him

There is now a great Aidy Mapp's article on the official site ! He will have sealed his legacy in the hearts of Watford fans and like DG he has left the club in the right way !!

Frankie Frazer wrote:
There is now a great Aidy Mapp's article on the official site ! He will have sealed his legacy in the hearts of Watford fans and like DG he has left the club in the right way !!

Yeah totally I posted this under another article. What an outstanding piece.

Legend Mariapa.

southernhornet wrote:

Frankie Frazer wrote:
There is now a great Aidy Mapp's article on the official site ! He will have sealed his legacy in the hearts of Watford fans and like DG he has left the club in the right way !!

Yeah totally I posted this under another article. What an outstanding piece.

Legend Mariapa.

pure class.

southernhornet wrote:
Yeah he will have little trouble finding another club but I would have liked him to remain a hornet for now. Hopefully we will get some info from the club at some point?!!!! And get to hear from him.

What 'info' on the departure do you want?
New owners with a worldwide scouting network etc. I don't think we need an inquest into why each member of the old staff have left the club.

Watford fc under GT and EJ became a biggish club in its day , Spent I think 6 seasons in the previous premier league, finished runners up to Liverpool, FA Cup finalists, EUFA cup and smashed teams like Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal for fun.

The Pozzos know this history they also know that in football terms watford is practically a London Club with the underground train to Stanmore and Watford. The Demographics therefore shows great development potential to climb to be a biggish club in the outer reaches of North west London. The potential is enormous it is there for Watford to make it happen.

During the last say 5 to 15 years although Wfc have been in the premier league twice many fans think of Watford in terms of being a small club they are compared to say world class clubs such as Man Utd,Arsenal and Chelsea. But how many Big clubs are there - not many! Then again Watford is equal to all the Blackburns, Boltons, Burnleys and Midllesboroughs etc. Furthermore, watford is a big club compared to the likes of The Orient, Brentford, Barnet and Bournemouth.

Many Fans think small you can see it in many posts they get involved in all the small trivia, they find it hard to think big. They know what they know and don't want change.

I have got news for you people. Things have changed and you had better get used to because whether you like it not there is a serious business plan to make Watford into a recognised premier brand club and possibly European.If you cannot deal with these changes sadly you will have to support Luton or Wycombe or Harrow or some other southern small team.

Fans bemoan the end of the standing areas, fans bemoan the fans of the prawn sandwich brigade, Football has moved on from its British working class roots, lots of lamenting by people, but that's evolution, like the Dinausaurs evolve or die.

Obviously I will have upset some people with this post, however your moaning will not change anything. Nothing stays the same forever!

There is no such thing as a job for life or a career for life, you have to adapt to changing circumstances. If you loose you job as a Painter, Brickie or Baker think about starting up your own business ie; washing cars, windows or growing flowers anything where there is a demand just think outside the box adapt and survive.

I really think its about time we put a stop to all this trivia about Loach and this and that, start thinking about the possibilities let your mind wander, let your dreams expand, dare to dream anything, we can make it happen, join the ride and open your minds you just may enjoy it!

Well said .

Great post Rogeruk - Finally somebody with a sensible post has arrived on the scene

Sky Sports understands Watford have agreed deals to sign Manuel Almunia and Fitz Hall.

Goalkeeper Almunia and central defender Hall will arrive at Vicarage Road on free transfers after leaving Arsenal and Queens Park Rangers, respectively, this summer.

Almunia was released by the Gunners after finding himself well down the pecking order at Emirates Stadium, while Hall was allowed to leave Loftus Road after seeing out his contract.

A number of other clubs were thought to be chasing the free agents, but Watford have won the race for their signatures.

Almunia will help fill the void left by Scott Loach's departure to Ipswich, while Hall will provide cover in defence following Adrian Mariappa's move to Reading

Who cares about Wilson not me, I care about Watford doing well and being safe! New start out with whoever!

buckler wrote:
Who cares about Wilson not me, I care about Watford doing well and being safe! New start out with whoever!

Absolutely! People asking for comments on why he departed etc....who seriously cares. He was with us for about 12 months or so and would have moved on at some point so why not now! Couldn't care less. We now have proper owners, with proper money and a proper scouting network envied by some of the biggest clubs in Europe. They can put Ronald McDonald in charge of recruitment for all I care. They will make us successful

rogeruk wrote:
Watford fc under GT and EJ became a biggish club in its day , Spent I think 6 seasons in the previous premier league, finished runners up to Liverpool, FA Cup finalists, EUFA cup and smashed teams like Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal for fun.

The Pozzos know this history they also know that in football terms watford is practically a London Club with the underground train to Stanmore and Watford. The Demographics therefore shows great development potential to climb to be a biggish club in the outer reaches of North west London. The potential is enormous it is there for Watford to make it happen.

During the last say 5 to 15 years although Wfc have been in the premier league twice many fans think of Watford in terms of being a small club they are compared to say world class clubs such as Man Utd,Arsenal and Chelsea. But how many Big clubs are there - not many! Then again Watford is equal to all the Blackburns, Boltons, Burnleys and Midllesboroughs etc. Furthermore, watford is a big club compared to the likes of The Orient, Brentford, Barnet and Bournemouth.

Many Fans think small you can see it in many posts they get involved in all the small trivia, they find it hard to think big. They know what they know and don't want change.

I have got news for you people. Things have changed and you had better get used to because whether you like it not there is a serious business plan to make Watford into a recognised premier brand club and possibly European.If you cannot deal with these changes sadly you will have to support Luton or Wycombe or Harrow or some other southern small team.

Fans bemoan the end of the standing areas, fans bemoan the fans of the prawn sandwich brigade, Football has moved on from its British working class roots, lots of lamenting by people, but that's evolution, like the Dinausaurs evolve or die.

Obviously I will have upset some people with this post, however your moaning will not change anything. Nothing stays the same forever!

There is no such thing as a job for life or a career for life, you have to adapt to changing circumstances. If you loose you job as a Painter, Brickie or Baker think about starting up your own business ie; washing cars, windows or growing flowers anything where there is a demand just think outside the box adapt and survive.

I really think its about time we put a stop to all this trivia about Loach and this and that, start thinking about the possibilities let your mind wander, let your dreams expand, dare to dream anything, we can make it happen, join the ride and open your minds you just may enjoy it!

Great post Roger....almost as emphatic as "we will fight them on the beaches"

buckler wrote:
Who cares about Wilson not me, I care about Watford doing well and being safe! New start out with whoever!

But who will find us the next Mirfin or Garner?

rogeruk wrote:
Watford fc under GT and EJ became a biggish club in its day , Spent I think 6 seasons in the previous premier league, finished runners up to Liverpool, FA Cup finalists, EUFA cup and smashed teams like Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal for fun. The Pozzos know this history they also know that in football terms watford is practically a London Club with the underground train to Stanmore and Watford. The Demographics therefore shows great development potential to climb to be a biggish club in the outer reaches of North west London. The potential is enormous it is there for Watford to make it happen. During the last say 5 to 15 years although Wfc have been in the premier league twice many fans think of Watford in terms of being a small club they are compared to say world class clubs such as Man Utd,Arsenal and Chelsea. But how many Big clubs are there - not many! Then again Watford is equal to all the Blackburns, Boltons, Burnleys and Midllesboroughs etc. Furthermore, watford is a big club compared to the likes of The Orient, Brentford, Barnet and Bournemouth. Many Fans think small you can see it in many posts they get involved in all the small trivia, they find it hard to think big. They know what they know and don't want change. I have got news for you people. Things have changed and you had better get used to because whether you like it not there is a serious business plan to make Watford into a recognised premier brand club and possibly European.If you cannot deal with these changes sadly you will have to support Luton or Wycombe or Harrow or some other southern small team. Fans bemoan the end of the standing areas, fans bemoan the fans of the prawn sandwich brigade, Football has moved on from its British working class roots, lots of lamenting by people, but that's evolution, like the Dinausaurs evolve or die. Obviously I will have upset some people with this post, however your moaning will not change anything. Nothing stays the same forever! There is no such thing as a job for life or a career for life, you have to adapt to changing circumstances. If you loose you job as a Painter, Brickie or Baker think about starting up your own business ie; washing cars, windows or growing flowers anything where there is a demand just think outside the box adapt and survive. I really think its about time we put a stop to all this trivia about Loach and this and that, start thinking about the possibilities let your mind wander, let your dreams expand, dare to dream anything, we can make it happen, join the ride and open your minds you just may enjoy it!

Are you related to any of the member of the chamber orchestra on the Titanic?????? Blind faith is great and that is what you have. Grenada survived by their skin of the teeth in a league that has a far wider gulf in class than the Prem. The jury is out and nothing that has happened yet has really got me excited, good players leaving, good members of staff leaving and being linked with loads of geriatric has beens out for a free lunch. Sorry this at the moment strikes of deja vu to the Vialli era. That doesn't mean I won't give it all a chance, I will and hope like last season my worries are dissipated. As for us who don't have blind, we are probably true supporters, questioning everything, because we love our club and want to make sure whoever is in charge does their best for it. If thats in the prem or BSQ Prem. Because I would still be there. If you just want blind faith and glory maybe you should move to Kent and start supporting a Manchester club!!!

Terry Dactile wrote:

rogeruk wrote:
Watford fc under GT and EJ became a biggish club in its day , Spent I think 6 seasons in the previous premier league, finished runners up to Liverpool, FA Cup finalists, EUFA cup and smashed teams like Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal for fun. The Pozzos know this history they also know that in football terms watford is practically a London Club with the underground train to Stanmore and Watford. The Demographics therefore shows great development potential to climb to be a biggish club in the outer reaches of North west London. The potential is enormous it is there for Watford to make it happen. During the last say 5 to 15 years although Wfc have been in the premier league twice many fans think of Watford in terms of being a small club they are compared to say world class clubs such as Man Utd,Arsenal and Chelsea. But how many Big clubs are there - not many! Then again Watford is equal to all the Blackburns, Boltons, Burnleys and Midllesboroughs etc. Furthermore, watford is a big club compared to the likes of The Orient, Brentford, Barnet and Bournemouth. Many Fans think small you can see it in many posts they get involved in all the small trivia, they find it hard to think big. They know what they know and don't want change. I have got news for you people. Things have changed and you had better get used to because whether you like it not there is a serious business plan to make Watford into a recognised premier brand club and possibly European.If you cannot deal with these changes sadly you will have to support Luton or Wycombe or Harrow or some other southern small team. Fans bemoan the end of the standing areas, fans bemoan the fans of the prawn sandwich brigade, Football has moved on from its British working class roots, lots of lamenting by people, but that's evolution, like the Dinausaurs evolve or die. Obviously I will have upset some people with this post, however your moaning will not change anything. Nothing stays the same forever! There is no such thing as a job for life or a career for life, you have to adapt to changing circumstances. If you loose you job as a Painter, Brickie or Baker think about starting up your own business ie; washing cars, windows or growing flowers anything where there is a demand just think outside the box adapt and survive. I really think its about time we put a stop to all this trivia about Loach and this and that, start thinking about the possibilities let your mind wander, let your dreams expand, dare to dream anything, we can make it happen, join the ride and open your minds you just may enjoy it!

Are you related to any of the member of the chamber orchestra on the Titanic?????? Blind faith is great and that is what you have. Grenada survived by their skin of the teeth in a league that has a far wider gulf in class than the Prem. The jury is out and nothing that has happened yet has really got me excited, good players leaving, good members of staff leaving and being linked with loads of geriatric has beens out for a free lunch. Sorry this at the moment strikes of deja vu to the Vialli era. That doesn't mean I won't give it all a chance, I will and hope like last season my worries are dissipated. As for us who don't have blind, we are probably true supporters, questioning everything, because we love our club and want to make sure whoever is in charge does their best for it. If thats in the prem or BSQ Prem. Because I would still be there. If you just want blind faith and glory maybe you should move to Kent and start supporting a Manchester club!!!

Kent is far too close to Manchester to be a real united fan, I would propose Cornwall.

Roger thanks for the lecture I had no idea of Watfords history or geographical placement, along with the huge number of fans about to start following Watford who clearly need such help could you provide me with direction to the Vicarage Street stadium?

La liga ...far wider gulf in class?

Only because Real and Barca are so good, Wigan wouldn't earn a point in that league.

Bringe wrote:
La liga ...far wider gulf in class?

Only because Real and Barca are so good, Wigan wouldn't earn a point in that league.

too many dinasaurs on this site
! Harping on about poor Loach , poor Wilson, poor Sean then trying to find fault with the Pozzos where there is only success
Wish they'd go north with that teeny team up the motorway

Bringe wrote:
La liga ...far wider gulf in class?

Only because Real and Barca are so good, Wigan wouldn't earn a point in that league.

What a load of rubbish. Barca, Real, Valencia maybe athletico and Betis are bigger than most Prem teams. Most the rest are probably no better than a lot o championship teams. Wigan wouldnt have a relagation battle.

Terry Dactile wrote:

Bringe wrote:
La liga ...far wider gulf in class?

Only because Real and Barca are so good, Wigan wouldn't earn a point in that league.

What a load of rubbish. Barca, Real, Valencia maybe athletico and Betis are bigger than most Prem teams. Most the rest are probably no better than a lot o championship teams. Wigan wouldnt have a relagation battle.

Yea Rubbish it is, Wigan would not be in la liga. Missing that small club mentality already?

rogeruk wrote:
Watford fc under GT and EJ became a biggish club in its day , Spent I think 6 seasons in the previous premier league, finished runners up to Liverpool, FA Cup finalists, EUFA cup and smashed teams like Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal for fun.

The Pozzos know this history they also know that in football terms watford is practically a London Club with the underground train to Stanmore and Watford. The Demographics therefore shows great development potential to climb to be a biggish club in the outer reaches of North west London. The potential is enormous it is there for Watford to make it happen.

During the last say 5 to 15 years although Wfc have been in the premier league twice many fans think of Watford in terms of being a small club they are compared to say world class clubs such as Man Utd,Arsenal and Chelsea. But how many Big clubs are there - not many! Then again Watford is equal to all the Blackburns, Boltons, Burnleys and Midllesboroughs etc. Furthermore, watford is a big club compared to the likes of The Orient, Brentford, Barnet and Bournemouth.

Many Fans think small you can see it in many posts they get involved in all the small trivia, they find it hard to think big. They know what they know and don't want change.

I have got news for you people. Things have changed and you had better get used to because whether you like it not there is a serious business plan to make Watford into a recognised premier brand club and possibly European.If you cannot deal with these changes sadly you will have to support Luton or Wycombe or Harrow or some other southern small team.

Fans bemoan the end of the standing areas, fans bemoan the fans of the prawn sandwich brigade, Football has moved on from its British working class roots, lots of lamenting by people, but that's evolution, like the Dinausaurs evolve or die.

Obviously I will have upset some people with this post, however your moaning will not change anything. Nothing stays the same forever!

There is no such thing as a job for life or a career for life, you have to adapt to changing circumstances. If you loose you job as a Painter, Brickie or Baker think about starting up your own business ie; washing cars, windows or growing flowers anything where there is a demand just think outside the box adapt and survive.

I really think its about time we put a stop to all this trivia about Loach and this and that, start thinking about the possibilities let your mind wander, let your dreams expand, dare to dream anything, we can make it happen, join the ride and open your minds you just may enjoy it!

Roger. That was a long'un. Like it though.

Was Wilson involved in the Cowie fiasco?

Regardless, Hogg and Nosworthy aside, do not think we have recruited anybody to shout about recently.

Have faith Watford are back!!!

D.unstable wrote:
Was Wilson involved in the Cowie fiasco?

Regardless, Hogg and Nosworthy aside, do not think we have recruited anybody to shout about recently.

Have faith Watford are back!!!

Eggsactly
Last one
Promise!

D.unstable wrote:
Was Wilson involved in the Cowie fiasco?

Regardless, Hogg and Nosworthy aside, do not think we have recruited anybody to shout about recently.

Have faith Watford are back!!!

No Wilson had to come in and immediately deal with the Cowie problem which he had inherited from the guys before him. He outlined that situation openly to all of us fans before at one of the questions and answers nights.

I too think the Pozzos will be good for us and do not want to be negative towards this, I am not negative towards Pozzo but I am really concerned about Duxberry and Nani and would be worried that they will rip the heart out of the club and rip the good people out of the club quickly.

Good luck Ross - always impressed by you at the forums

Good luck Aidy Mapp - as others have said before PURE CLASS, your boots will be tough to fill.