Hornets sign seven (From Watford Observer)

Happy days!

Indeed happy days. Just one question - why only one year contracts for Almunia and Hall? Forza Watford!

We're on the march with Zolas Army!

Thrilled to have this sorted! Welcome to the club guys, looking forward to the season ahead!

Great news. On the previous thread someone complained that Almunia and Hall have only signed one year deals. From my perspective this is very sensible business - others have pointed out that both are towards the back end of their careers, so it doesn't make sense giving them long-term deals. Equally, if we make the Prem, then we could realistically look at better options without having to offload players who are on high-ish wages. This strikes me as very shrewd and the opposite of how we have approached such matters in the past (I give you a 4 year contract for Mr Duke Ellington, by way of example). I'm also very happy that the loanees are all on season-long deals, which means we have a settled squad for the season....and finally, very pleased about obtaining a much better new sponsor than the Happy Egg Co, without losing their valued support as a local business. All in all, a pretty encouraging start, as far as I'm concerned....roll on the start of the season!

The Not-so-enlightened one wrote:
Indeed happy days. Just one question - why only one year contracts for Almunia and Hall? Forza Watford!

Because the are just hole fillers ... I guess Pozzo's scouts are already searching for next years solution.

if zola wants to play his 4-5-1, in my mind he needs a proven winger. we only have murray to play that role, with either vydra and beleck to play the lone role. unless we want forsyth and mingoia up top we need more quality in that area.

The Not-so-enlightened one wrote:
Indeed happy days. Just one question - why only one year contracts for Almunia and Hall? Forza Watford!

Always best to sign these older players on short term contracts just in case it doesn't work out. Quite a lot of people think it a mistake to sign Hall, Almunia is no spring chicken, even for a Goalkeeper so I recon 1 year contracts are just about right.

Bringe wrote:

The Not-so-enlightened one wrote:
Indeed happy days. Just one question - why only one year contracts for Almunia and Hall? Forza Watford!

Because the are just hole fillers ... I guess Pozzo's scouts are already searching for next years solution.

Totally agree. They will be looking at the existing youngsters or promising additions from the scouting network. Should circumstances dictate, and one or both proove more than satisfactory, they will be offered a new, longer contract.

There is one obvious weakness---someone up front. I would expect another signing there. I do suspect that we may be susprised to find a suprise or two in the forward department. For instance, I have a feeling that Garner may be a better player than we have previously seen under a Zola type system. We will see---.

Mingoia has had a good pre season. Pushing for a start in a 4 5 1 formation do you think?

Londomallori - agree re Garner - think football will suit him as opposed to Hoofball - no more will this pint size striker be repeatedly asked to out jump 6ft 6 inch defenders! & then be judged upon it!

Any truth in DJ Campbell joining or has he gone elsewhere? Good player for this level

what position will snowhite play?

True watford fan wrote:
if zola wants to play his 4-5-1, in my mind he needs a proven winger. we only have murray to play that role, with either vydra and beleck to play the lone role. unless we want forsyth and mingoia up top we need more quality in that area.

Ikechi Anya is very quick and very tricky ... What means proven? Pozzo's don't do proven when it comes to forwards ... they develop them.

londomollari wrote:
There is one obvious weakness---someone up front. I would expect another signing there. I do suspect that we may be susprised to find a suprise or two in the forward department. For instance, I have a feeling that Garner may be a better player than we have previously seen under a Zola type system. We will see---.

Beleck and Vydra will be lethal ... stop worrying.

anya reminds me of lionel ainsworth...he has speed but no end product. smith would work perfectly in the 4-5-1.

Worriers,.... Come out to playyyyay.

True watford fan wrote:
anya reminds me of lionel ainsworth...he has speed but no end product. smith would work perfectly in the 4-5-1.

how old was the video you watched?
Personally I'll wait till I've seen him play before knocking him.

Expect two more forwards and another Keeper shortly

can't wait for the season to start... its gonna be an exciting!

A 35-year-old keeper, an unpopular journeyman released by QPR notable only for picking a fight with Aidy and now five mercenaries briefly passing through, all of whom sound like anagrams and about whom none of us, whatever we may pretend, know anything........if Dyche had let Mapps go and signed that lot with the proceeds there'd have been an absolute outcry. In fact the classic, 'Reminds me of Lionel Ainsworth' must be one of the least compelling testimonials I've ever read! Seriously, it could be great but might we just contain our excitement for a week or two, until we get some idea if any of them are any good?

Personally I am very happy with how things are starting to line up. It is tough being a Watford fan as so often things seem to always take twice as long for us, but we get there in the end. The original take over took a while and obviously these singings have as well, but slowly and surely it is all coming together. I also think that Garner may well flourish, I remember as a kid how different teachers would be inspiring, giving you a sense of confidence and self belief - I don't think it is that different when a new manager comes along, particularly for young players. These really are exciting times and I also think there could b a suprise forward singing for us, I don't have a clue who that would be, but just get that feeling. I am also glad the club are keeping Happy Egg on board, having local companies is a big plus as far as I am concerned and now the new SEGA deal (a deal this good takes ages!!) is another bonus. The Baz era is in the past and I am sure that in time we will find out all that really went on, but now is the time to start looking forward - we also have what looks like an excellent new playing surface, a qualit kit maker in PUMA and hopefully, above all else the magical optimism that comes this time of year!! Good luck one and all.

People are forgetting that so far we have paid £0 for players, but have £10m worth of talent for at least a year.

What they also forget is that we have our own youngsters developing and maturing every season, now they will also benefit from some top continental coaching. Having seen enough amateur teams in Germany that I reckon could comfortably survive in league 2 here (and higher for the best of them), I've been begging for something like this to happen for years.

Mosmanhornet wrote:
Great news. On the previous thread someone complained that Almunia and Hall have only signed one year deals. From my perspective this is very sensible business - others have pointed out that both are towards the back end of their careers, so it doesn't make sense giving them long-term deals. Equally, if we make the Prem, then we could realistically look at better options without having to offload players who are on high-ish wages. This strikes me as very shrewd and the opposite of how we have approached such matters in the past (I give you a 4 year contract for Mr Duke Ellington, by way of example). I'm also very happy that the loanees are all on season-long deals, which means we have a settled squad for the season....and finally, very pleased about obtaining a much better new sponsor than the Happy Egg Co, without losing their valued support as a local business. All in all, a pretty encouraging start, as far as I'm concerned....roll on the start of the season!

Spot-on, Mosman.

bushey tales wrote:
A 35-year-old keeper, an unpopular journeyman released by QPR notable only for picking a fight with Aidy and now five mercenaries briefly passing through, all of whom sound like anagrams and about whom none of us, whatever we may pretend, know anything........if Dyche had let Mapps go and signed that lot with the proceeds there'd have been an absolute outcry. In fact the classic, 'Reminds me of Lionel Ainsworth' must be one of the least compelling testimonials I've ever read! Seriously, it could be great but might we just contain our excitement for a week or two, until we get some idea if any of them are any good?

Why don't you go and contain your excitement on another site you killjoy.

Can't believe people are actually moaning about 7 (SEVEN) signings. haven't you numptys noticed that we've basically got the same squad as last season but with a shed load more options on top.
Yes we've lost mapps, and old giant head deeney is otherwise engaged for a while, but there's 3 new forwards and "one size" is decent cover for tiny and nos, and when you throw bennet and the other young defenders coming through on the pile that's a pretty decent squad already.
All that's needed, in my opinion, is an experienced championship level striker to help out while the new guys settle, and probably a keeper so our 2 youngsters can go out on loan to get some invaluable experience.
Bet hey what do i know!!!!!

Stop moaning, some of you are unbelievable, the addition of Smith and Frazier Campbell (or similar types) would give us a cup run and potential promotion. Let's get behind the club !!! COYH

Lots of unknown loanees (unknown to us !) it's true, but young players with bags of potential that we could not have recruited without the Pozzos. It's going to be fascinating to see how they perform. 2-3 gems hopefully.

Word from the training ground is that Garner. Yes, Garner is one of the best finishers and strikers of the ball on the training pitch. Maybe, Zola is bringing back the confidence he needs. In training matchs he is scoring the most. FACT!!

dennis the menace wrote:
what position will snowhite play?

So you think we've signed 7 dwarves? Fitz Hall a dwarf? I'm not sure about Snow White but if you could change your user name to Devon White it would remind us all of the good old days. Numpty Dumpty

jalvin wrote:
Can't believe people are actually moaning about 7 (SEVEN) signings. haven't you numptys noticed that we've basically got the same squad as last season but with a shed load more options on top.
Yes we've lost mapps, and old giant head deeney is otherwise engaged for a while, but there's 3 new forwards and "one size" is decent cover for tiny and nos, and when you throw bennet and the other young defenders coming through on the pile that's a pretty decent squad already.
All that's needed, in my opinion, is an experienced championship level striker to help out while the new guys settle, and probably a keeper so our 2 youngsters can go out on loan to get some invaluable experience.
Bet hey what do i know!!!!!

You know much more than the numpty's, that's for sure jalvin.

Where's LD ? I miss him and his strange brand of humour.

SAHornet wrote:
Where's LD ? I miss him and his strange brand of humour.

Probably been kicked off again...wouldn't be the first time ..!!!

Del Piero Mingoia is bound to get a game

Mosmanhornet wrote:
Great news. On the previous thread someone complained that Almunia and Hall have only signed one year deals. From my perspective this is very sensible business - others have pointed out that both are towards the back end of their careers, so it doesn't make sense giving them long-term deals. Equally, if we make the Prem, then we could realistically look at better options without having to offload players who are on high-ish wages. This strikes me as very shrewd and the opposite of how we have approached such matters in the past (I give you a 4 year contract for Mr Duke Ellington, by way of example). I'm also very happy that the loanees are all on season-long deals, which means we have a settled squad for the season....and finally, very pleased about obtaining a much better new sponsor than the Happy Egg Co, without losing their valued support as a local business. All in all, a pretty encouraging start, as far as I'm concerned....roll on the start of the season!

"...On the previous thread someone complained that Almunia and Hall have only signed one year deals......"

Might be referring to me but I was simply surprised that Hall and Almunia would agree to one year deals, both being free agents. Make perfect sense for us to sign them up for only a year.

Glad my concerns were wrong.
COYH

Has anyone else noticed Steve Leo Beleck's picture on wikipedia? Do you not think he looks a bit like Balotelli...?

Hello everyone. To get us off on the right foot my avitar on here is my avitar on twitter, so any problems with what i say please feel free to DM me an discuss it. Lifelong Watford fan and clapping harder than ever! 30-07-12 was the day everyone sat up and took notice of our little club. Buckler and Lutondown are very good friends of mine which i know will alienate me, however they were on the money with bas and they speak there minds regardless of popular opinion like real men. Over the moon that we have football people at the helm with a proven structure and ethos. The futures bright, the futures Yellow. Thanks for reading and God Bless.

Regarding the 7 signings... 1 year contracts for players the wrong side of 30 to me makes good business sense and just goes to show what good business people we now have in charge. Almunia like Tomasz will provide the start of a very good backbone along with Fitz Hall. A good Polish friend of mine who watched Daniel Pudil at Slovan Liberec reckons we have the best player in the league. Abdi at Wealdstone ran the show with Hogg in midfield. Anya i believe has developed into a pacey, tricky winger. Vydra and Beleck will give us the pace and cutting edge up front that we have not seen for years. How anyone cannot be excited or be negative already is beyond me and frankley we do not need your sort.

We are usually the pundits favourites for relegation at this time of the year,somehow I doubt it this time round.

COGGDAVE1 wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
Where's LD ? I miss him and his strange brand of humour.

Probably been kicked off again...wouldn't be the first time ..!!!

LD was grassed up by a 'man' on this site and was put in the WO prison. However the editor realised that LD was provoked and his reaction was actually deserved, he is as we speak collecting his belongings and the limo is waiting outside to bring him back!. I for one will welcome him and his honesty back with open arms.... come to mention it im just off outside to hang the bunting out!

I do not anything about the 5 loanees. All i would say is as a season ticket holder who had my first season ticket when Mike Keen was manager (about £12 for a junior i think) no one who joins the club will dislodge from my list of favourite players my first team of Rankin, Garner, Downes and Mercer - But after the last 5 seasons what a joy this pre-season to know we are financially secure; unlikely to be relegated, stand a good chance of finishing in the top 10; will develop our academy players to fit into a style of play that is worth turning up and watching. Plus the prospect is we have the chance of becoming an established top 25 club, with a stadium, crowd and players to think that Premiership football is a realistic prospect for more than the odd goalden patch one seasson flash in the pan. I am now certain if this change of ownership had not occurred we would be heading down the path of Portsmouth and Rangers.

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

COGGDAVE1 wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
Where's LD ? I miss him and his strange brand of humour.

Probably been kicked off again...wouldn't be the first time ..!!!

LD was grassed up by a 'man' on this site and was put in the WO prison. However the editor realised that LD was provoked and his reaction was actually deserved, he is as we speak collecting his belongings and the limo is waiting outside to bring him back!. I for one will welcome him and his honesty back with open arms.... come to mention it im just off outside to hang the bunting out!

Yay, long live LD....The King lives...Yay !

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

COGGDAVE1 wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
Where's LD ? I miss him and his strange brand of humour.

Probably been kicked off again...wouldn't be the first time ..!!!

LD was grassed up by a 'man' on this site and was put in the WO prison. However the editor realised that LD was provoked and his reaction was actually deserved, he is as we speak collecting his belongings and the limo is waiting outside to bring him back!. I for one will welcome him and his honesty back with open arms.... come to mention it im just off outside to hang the bunting out!

Chris - You mean the top secret "LutonDown embargo" has been lifted ? Down to an admin error by the previous regime ?

Grear stuff, Hall and Almunia are obvious stop gaps who might get another year or two if they do well this season and yes the others are transient but as another poster said £10mill+ of talent for free (or will WFC pay a fee as seems quite common these days?) isnt to be sniffed at!

If you look back over previous seasons we've always benefited from loan players and struggled when some have gone back to parent clubs so these five can hopefully make the difference between mid table and play offs maybe even higher. Yes i'm getting carried away

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

COGGDAVE1 wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
Where's LD ? I miss him and his strange brand of humour.

Probably been kicked off again...wouldn't be the first time ..!!!

LD was grassed up by a 'man' on this site and was put in the WO prison. However the editor realised that LD was provoked and his reaction was actually deserved, he is as we speak collecting his belongings and the limo is waiting outside to bring him back!. I for one will welcome him and his honesty back with open arms.... come to mention it im just off outside to hang the bunting out!

To the famous tune.........Are you LUTONDOWN in disguise....areyoulu
tondownindisguise?

Anyway. Have Watford's odds changed at all in the last few days?

COYH!!!

G_Whiz wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

COGGDAVE1 wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
Where's LD ? I miss him and his strange brand of humour.

Probably been kicked off again...wouldn't be the first time ..!!!

LD was grassed up by a 'man' on this site and was put in the WO prison. However the editor realised that LD was provoked and his reaction was actually deserved, he is as we speak collecting his belongings and the limo is waiting outside to bring him back!. I for one will welcome him and his honesty back with open arms.... come to mention it im just off outside to hang the bunting out!

To the famous tune.........Are you LUTONDOWN in disguise....areyoulu

tondownindisguise?

Anyway. Have Watford's odds changed at all in the last few days?

COYH!!!

No bud im not although he is a very good friend. we are now down to 10/1 to be promoted.

I'm so excited!!!, I feel like the Pointer Sisters (all 3 of them).

You know what, there are some very two faced and easily pleased people on this comments board, the club deliberately withhold information about the transfer embargo, then claim it was something to do with a small admin error and it seems that is all just ok. If it was Bassini he would be blasted to smithereens, the new club admin have deliberately yes that's right deliberately lied to us!!!! The official club statement from Duxbury said everything is sorted with the FL registration when clearly it WAS NOT, this is a blatant lie, then when asked direct by the WO and others they refuse to comment, WHY! What are they hiding, if it was a admin error so be it but to lie and state it was all sorted when it was not is not a great transparent start, in fact it is worse than a no show imo, and now they cleared the matter and announce the signings the simples think nothing more of it. Why am I so angry about this, no not because of Bassini supporting as some like to jump to as defence of their shortcomings, it has nothing to do with him he's GONE, FINISHED, it is because we the fans have been deliberately lied to, it is because Zola wanted to sign Carlo Cudicini instead of Almunia but couldn't make a bid for him because of the embargo which means we now have second choice in Zola's opinion (although admittedly better than what we had), I doubt CC will come now as Almunia wont want to sit on the bench to be understudy to CC and Zola had to get him or miss out on possibly both, also other free agents were looked at instead of signings thus the FH situation. Also who else have we lost whilst this was addressed, there where others which I will not go into detail but clearly we would have moved forward better without this apparent very secretive small admin error (there's more to this than we are being told)!! I also pick up the excuse on delay of signings in the said official statement about due diligence to take stock of the players on trail etc, so that's why we signed all of them and rejected none did Zola really have any other choice given the time taken to sort this out! Call me a septic if you like but I want what's best and clearly if we are accepting and as forgiving as some clearly seem to be about being lied to and a feeder for developing players then your in the right place, for me it's unacceptable and needs to be sorted for us to move forward and hopefully the Pozzo's can address the shortfalls clearly being shown already by our new CEO who seems to have not learn't from his West Ham day's on how to address the fans and his staff with the truth and FACTS!!!!

Corbindallas ...

Thanks for the comedy post of the decade, you really have just made my day xD

Bringe wrote:
Corbindallas ...

Thanks for the comedy post of the decade, you really have just made my day xD

Ah outing one of the simples! FACTS hurt hey!

corbindallas wrote:
You know what, there are some very two faced and easily pleased people on this comments board, the club deliberately withhold information about the transfer embargo, then claim it was something to do with a small admin error and it seems that is all just ok. If it was Bassini he would be blasted to smithereens, the new club admin have deliberately yes that's right deliberately lied to us!!!! The official club statement from Duxbury said everything is sorted with the FL registration when clearly it WAS NOT, this is a blatant lie, then when asked direct by the WO and others they refuse to comment, WHY! What are they hiding, if it was a admin error so be it but to lie and state it was all sorted when it was not is not a great transparent start, in fact it is worse than a no show imo, and now they cleared the matter and announce the signings the simples think nothing more of it. Why am I so angry about this, no not because of Bassini supporting as some like to jump to as defence of their shortcomings, it has nothing to do with him he's GONE, FINISHED, it is because we the fans have been deliberately lied to, it is because Zola wanted to sign Carlo Cudicini instead of Almunia but couldn't make a bid for him because of the embargo which means we now have second choice in Zola's opinion (although admittedly better than what we had), I doubt CC will come now as Almunia wont want to sit on the bench to be understudy to CC and Zola had to get him or miss out on possibly both, also other free agents were looked at instead of signings thus the FH situation. Also who else have we lost whilst this was addressed, there where others which I will not go into detail but clearly we would have moved forward better without this apparent very secretive small admin error (there's more to this than we are being told)!! I also pick up the excuse on delay of signings in the said official statement about due diligence to take stock of the players on trail etc, so that's why we signed all of them and rejected none did Zola really have any other choice given the time taken to sort this out! Call me a septic if you like but I want what's best and clearly if we are accepting and as forgiving as some clearly seem to be about being lied to and a feeder for developing players then your in the right place, for me it's unacceptable and needs to be sorted for us to move forward and hopefully the Pozzo's can address the shortfalls clearly being shown already by our new CEO who seems to have not learn't from his West Ham day's on how to address the fans and his staff with the truth and FACTS!!!!

Do you know for a fact that Zola wanted CC ahead of Almunia or have you been reading too many rumour web sites?

As with any business why would you want to advertise any negativity in particular during the honeymoon period, and let's face it any problem would have been left by the previous owners reign.

They have an awful lot to get through in a very short space of time in order to get our club in a better position than it has been for many years to challenge once again. Do not lose sight of the FACT that we could have bvery easily been in Portsmouth's shoes right now if it was not for this buy out.

I would suggest that you stop **** about the fact that you were not consulted throughout and be a little grateful that the club we love is in the position it is in right now.

You just can't please some people!!!

corbindallas is mental.

Hi, I am a minibus driver who works for Broadmoor Hospital. I'm looing for a guy called Corbindallas - he's escaped again and I've come to bring him back.

D.unstable wrote:

corbindallas wrote: You know what, there are some very two faced and easily pleased people on this comments board, the club deliberately withhold information about the transfer embargo, then claim it was something to do with a small admin error and it seems that is all just ok. If it was Bassini he would be blasted to smithereens, the new club admin have deliberately yes that's right deliberately lied to us!!!! The official club statement from Duxbury said everything is sorted with the FL registration when clearly it WAS NOT, this is a blatant lie, then when asked direct by the WO and others they refuse to comment, WHY! What are they hiding, if it was a admin error so be it but to lie and state it was all sorted when it was not is not a great transparent start, in fact it is worse than a no show imo, and now they cleared the matter and announce the signings the simples think nothing more of it. Why am I so angry about this, no not because of Bassini supporting as some like to jump to as defence of their shortcomings, it has nothing to do with him he's GONE, FINISHED, it is because we the fans have been deliberately lied to, it is because Zola wanted to sign Carlo Cudicini instead of Almunia but couldn't make a bid for him because of the embargo which means we now have second choice in Zola's opinion (although admittedly better than what we had), I doubt CC will come now as Almunia wont want to sit on the bench to be understudy to CC and Zola had to get him or miss out on possibly both, also other free agents were looked at instead of signings thus the FH situation. Also who else have we lost whilst this was addressed, there where others which I will not go into detail but clearly we would have moved forward better without this apparent very secretive small admin error (there's more to this than we are being told)!! I also pick up the excuse on delay of signings in the said official statement about due diligence to take stock of the players on trail etc, so that's why we signed all of them and rejected none did Zola really have any other choice given the time taken to sort this out! Call me a septic if you like but I want what's best and clearly if we are accepting and as forgiving as some clearly seem to be about being lied to and a feeder for developing players then your in the right place, for me it's unacceptable and needs to be sorted for us to move forward and hopefully the Pozzo's can address the shortfalls clearly being shown already by our new CEO who seems to have not learn't from his West Ham day's on how to address the fans and his staff with the truth and FACTS!!!!

Do you know for a fact that Zola wanted CC ahead of Almunia or have you been reading too many rumour web sites? As with any business why would you want to advertise any negativity in particular during the honeymoon period, and let's face it any problem would have been left by the previous owners reign. They have an awful lot to get through in a very short space of time in order to get our club in a better position than it has been for many years to challenge once again. Do not lose sight of the FACT that we could have bvery easily been in Portsmouth's shoes right now if it was not for this buy out. I would suggest that you stop **** about the fact that you were not consulted throughout and be a little grateful that the club we love is in the position it is in right now. You just can't please some people!!!

I would just like to apologise to all that in the heat of the moment I responded to this original post.

The red mist obvioulsy came down and I did not realise that it was clearly the ramblings of a mad person and should have been ignored at all costs.

To Corbindallas,

If you are referencing the film 'The Fifth Element' with your posting name I think you should know you're spelling it incorrectly. Bruce Willis' character is named Korben Dallas. I didn't think you'd want to make yourself look anymore foolish than you already have is all.

Hugs and kisses

Semtex

D.unstable wrote:

corbindallas wrote:
You know what, there are some very two faced and easily pleased people on this comments board, the club deliberately withhold information about the transfer embargo, then claim it was something to do with a small admin error and it seems that is all just ok. If it was Bassini he would be blasted to smithereens, the new club admin have deliberately yes that's right deliberately lied to us!!!! The official club statement from Duxbury said everything is sorted with the FL registration when clearly it WAS NOT, this is a blatant lie, then when asked direct by the WO and others they refuse to comment, WHY! What are they hiding, if it was a admin error so be it but to lie and state it was all sorted when it was not is not a great transparent start, in fact it is worse than a no show imo, and now they cleared the matter and announce the signings the simples think nothing more of it. Why am I so angry about this, no not because of Bassini supporting as some like to jump to as defence of their shortcomings, it has nothing to do with him he's GONE, FINISHED, it is because we the fans have been deliberately lied to, it is because Zola wanted to sign Carlo Cudicini instead of Almunia but couldn't make a bid for him because of the embargo which means we now have second choice in Zola's opinion (although admittedly better than what we had), I doubt CC will come now as Almunia wont want to sit on the bench to be understudy to CC and Zola had to get him or miss out on possibly both, also other free agents were looked at instead of signings thus the FH situation. Also who else have we lost whilst this was addressed, there where others which I will not go into detail but clearly we would have moved forward better without this apparent very secretive small admin error (there's more to this than we are being told)!! I also pick up the excuse on delay of signings in the said official statement about due diligence to take stock of the players on trail etc, so that's why we signed all of them and rejected none did Zola really have any other choice given the time taken to sort this out! Call me a septic if you like but I want what's best and clearly if we are accepting and as forgiving as some clearly seem to be about being lied to and a feeder for developing players then your in the right place, for me it's unacceptable and needs to be sorted for us to move forward and hopefully the Pozzo's can address the shortfalls clearly being shown already by our new CEO who seems to have not learn't from his West Ham day's on how to address the fans and his staff with the truth and FACTS!!!!

Do you know for a fact that Zola wanted CC ahead of Almunia or have you been reading too many rumour web sites?

As with any business why would you want to advertise any negativity in particular during the honeymoon period, and let's face it any problem would have been left by the previous owners reign.

They have an awful lot to get through in a very short space of time in order to get our club in a better position than it has been for many years to challenge once again. Do not lose sight of the FACT that we could have bvery easily been in Portsmouth's shoes right now if it was not for this buy out.

I would suggest that you stop **** about the fact that you were not consulted throughout and be a little grateful that the club we love is in the position it is in right now.

You just can't please some people!!!

Totally agree. The embargo was due to an "administrative error" in the previous regime which I read as financial failings. Why would you want to advertise this fact and put off players coming to the club - in all liklihood they were advised to say nothing until it was sorted out. If the issue was very recent then their due dilligence may not have picked it up. They have sorted it we have the players and in the fullness of time once all remaining issues with the reign of Baz have been sorted out we will most likely find out how close we were to going back into administration if these liars hadn't come in with their money, their players, their long term ambition to firmly plant little old Watford in the Premiership - shame on them.

Some people just do not know when to look a gift horse in the mouth! It is alright to have a glass half full mentality from time to time.

Corbindallas - 'call me a septic if you like'

Comedy genius!

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Happy days!

I am hearing that Granada fans are not happy that Anya has left them? Apparently, he was one of their top players last season. promising for us!

I hear Granada fans are not happy that Anya has left them? Apparently, he was one of their best players last season. Promising for us!

Somebody above asked whether the odds had changed after yesterday's announcements. We're still 8/1 against being promoted but now 5/1 to be relegated. And by the way.....Almen Abdi = Bed Animal.

per sky, mirfin is having a medical at scunthorpe. excellent news.

Lutondown will shoot you down.....be careful what you wish for......

Said we want Lutondown , we want Lutondown!

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
per sky, mirfin is having a medical at scunthorpe. excellent news.

Now I know the real reason the Pozzo's bought the club .... they just wanted to cash in on our star players ....
.... Mirfin will be smuggled to Udinese via Scunny - just watch!

Bringe wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:
per sky, mirfin is having a medical at scunthorpe. excellent news.

Now I know the real reason the Pozzo's bought the club .... they just wanted to cash in on our star players ....
.... Mirfin will be smuggled to Udinese via Scunny - just watch!

don't be surprised to see Big Chris leading the line at Grenada next season either !

Big Chris could lead the sales team at Granada Rentals.......

jasonwatford wrote:
Big Chris could lead the sales team at Granada Rentals.......

or the production team at Grenada TV ?

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

jasonwatford wrote: Big Chris could lead the sales team at Granada Rentals.......

or the production team at Grenada TV ?

Or be the driving force in his 1977 Ford Granada

Kenthorn wrote:
I hear Granada fans are not happy that Anya has left them? Apparently, he was one of their best players last season. Promising for us!

Err, He was on a season long loan at Cadiz?

Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.; And, of course, there is full reason for optimism. All sources seem to indicate that the loan players signed will all improve the squad, and will grace this league. Financial security. And, finally, news that makeweight Mirfin may be going.
And I have a day off work.

We don’t know there was an embargo, we only have the WO's say so, and if there was we know even less about the reason why it was there. All there is a theories which once again people are taking as fact.

Corbin you're right in the sense that if this had been LB there would have been the most almighty abuse towards him, a number of things have happened at the club since the Pozzo's took over which would have cause riots in the anti LB camp but the same camp wants to crush down anyone that mentions the 'issues' under the new ownership. But on your other points, unless you have insider knowledge its just your own theory, you're entitled to it but its not proven fact at all.

Seeing as Granage only just missed relegation last season if Anya was one of the better players for them then they are quite right to be worried. But again what players have they brought in this season. I'll suggest again that the WO should run articles on our sister clubs, as well as being interesting in its own right it would be a great indication on what may happen at WFC in the future and how the Pozzo's do things. Some fan interviews would be great, maybe the coaches too?

But I am depressed that I can't think of any Big Chris/Grenada jokes

Bringe wrote:

Kenthorn wrote: I hear Granada fans are not happy that Anya has left them? Apparently, he was one of their best players last season. Promising for us!

Err, He was on a season long loan at Cadiz?

Says alot for the rest of their players then.

Holly68 wrote:
Expect two more forwards and another Keeper shortly

Any names in the frame?

i hear garston tony is in a lot of bother !!

Peter Shilton on a short-term contract. Plus Xavier Gravelaine and Nordin Wooter up front? Am I right?

iv been placing bets at every chance i get on watford getting promoted this season at 10/1. put on 100 over the year (hoping the odds stay the same) then watford could go up and i can collect a grand. would be an amazing last day! lol

Here's Danny!
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for the not so kind words
I'm under the Doc for my tourettes, being prescribed anger management sessions with Dr Oftaw!
And got to say breaking rocks in Luton is not nice and infringed my human rights, so thanks to the Bertie smalls who lurks among us!
Oh and by the way we were right!LOL
Good to have you Chris! See someone thought you were my alter ego! He's got more hair than me

londomollari wrote:
Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.; And, of course, there is full reason for optimism. All sources seem to indicate that the loan players signed will all improve the squad, and will grace this league. Financial security. And, finally, news that makeweight Mirfin may be going.
And I have a day off work.

londomollari says...
1:31pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.

Don't forget one of the biggest pessimists on here....Bushey A*se

lutondown wrote:
Here's Danny! Thanks for the kind words and thanks for the not so kind words I'm under the Doc for my tourettes, being prescribed anger management sessions with Dr Oftaw! And got to say breaking rocks in Luton is not nice and infringed my human rights, so thanks to the Bertie smalls who lurks among us! Oh and by the way we were right!LOL Good to have you Chris! See someone thought you were my alter ego! He's got more hair than me

the bitterist pill will soon have you shining again

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

lutondown wrote:
Here's Danny! Thanks for the kind words and thanks for the not so kind words I'm under the Doc for my tourettes, being prescribed anger management sessions with Dr Oftaw! And got to say breaking rocks in Luton is not nice and infringed my human rights, so thanks to the Bertie smalls who lurks among us! Oh and by the way we were right!LOL Good to have you Chris! See someone thought you were my alter ego! He's got more hair than me

the bitterist pill will soon have you shining again

Thanks Doc

D.unstable wrote:

Bringe wrote:

Kenthorn wrote: I hear Granada fans are not happy that Anya has left them? Apparently, he was one of their best players last season. Promising for us!

Err, He was on a season long loan at Cadiz?

Says alot for the rest of their players then.

Mind you they did pi.. I mean walk their league.

I think this will be a trend with developing players. Yes we do send out our youngsters on loan but Pozzo clubs appear to send theirs to places where they'll get the best experience for their talents rather than just experience. I can certainly see some of our youngsters going out to the spanish and italian lower leagues for an all together different experience...
... I just hope they're good at languages :)

I can certainly see one or two of our most promising players finding themselves at Udinese. Permanently. Not complaining, really. Just a fact of life---at the end of the day the loans and financial security will have a comeback.

Should have added "There's no such thing as a free lunch". But what we have at Wtaford now should be worth the occasional sacrifice---I hope. But please don't whinge when it happens.

londomollari wrote:
Should have added "There's no such thing as a free lunch". But what we have at Wtaford now should be worth the occasional sacrifice---I hope. But please don't whinge when it happens.

Can you imagine if we let someone like Sean Murray go for peanuts to Udinese?

People will forget all the stability the Pozzo's will give us over the years and scream that we have been robbed.

Like you say, the odd sacrifice for long term stability is worth it.

SAHornet wrote:

londomollari wrote:
Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.; And, of course, there is full reason for optimism. All sources seem to indicate that the loan players signed will all improve the squad, and will grace this league. Financial security. And, finally, news that makeweight Mirfin may be going.
And I have a day off work.

londomollari says...
1:31pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.

Don't forget one of the biggest pessimists on here....Bushey A*se

SAH just spent a hard day breaking rocks with ilovbas, sad to say he( or she, couldn't tell) is still wearing them same dirty old pantyhose.
It (easier description) is still quoting verse from the old testament but replaces all the biblical folk with his hero, so it's now Adam and Bas, Bas and his ark, the book of revelations ( safe combinations are hidden in code in that one) The book of Bas etc etc.
I took pity and done the decent thing.
What was that about my strange sense of humour..?
Lol

luther blissett wrote:

londomollari wrote:
Should have added "There's no such thing as a free lunch". But what we have at Wtaford now should be worth the occasional sacrifice---I hope. But please don't whinge when it happens.

Can you imagine if we let someone like Sean Murray go for peanuts to Udinese?

People will forget all the stability the Pozzo's will give us over the years and scream that we have been robbed.

Like you say, the odd sacrifice for long term stability is worth it.

Well I can't see it being this season but yeah, if we go up then the worlds his oyster. One thing we will have to get used to is the disengagement of finances for transfers. In reality when Udinese sell a player for £35m it benefits us too and vice versa, I think we can assume things will now be done in such a way to divert funds and players where most needed. The garden is rosey now but it won't always be and to a degree it's just something we'll have to accept. One thing's for sure ... it won't ever get boring.

Bringe wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

londomollari wrote:
Should have added "There's no such thing as a free lunch". But what we have at Wtaford now should be worth the occasional sacrifice---I hope. But please don't whinge when it happens.

Can you imagine if we let someone like Sean Murray go for peanuts to Udinese?

People will forget all the stability the Pozzo's will give us over the years and scream that we have been robbed.

Like you say, the odd sacrifice for long term stability is worth it.

Well I can't see it being this season but yeah, if we go up then the worlds his oyster. One thing we will have to get used to is the disengagement of finances for transfers. In reality when Udinese sell a player for £35m it benefits us too and vice versa, I think we can assume things will now be done in such a way to divert funds and players where most needed. The garden is rosey now but it won't always be and to a degree it's just something we'll have to accept. One thing's for sure ... it won't ever get boring.

Brian, one thing for sure it's a lot rosier than it ever was under the last regime!
It's meant to be exciting, and boy am I excited!
No apologies to the miseries for my exuberance

Cheers dan although I'm still adamant the last regime was just a puppet show.

Excited! we should be because once again we have stolen a march on the big money splashers. Despite what the bookies say we are putting something together that should see us right up there. Forget Forest, forget Leeds etc buying 2nd choice players that they can only hope will slot together, we have a host of players that play the same football under the same coaches day in day out.... That's a 20 point march on the others I reckon.

U 'Orns!!!!

A word to the Wiki wise ...

I keep noticing the odd poster referring to less than brilliant stats and only played for such and such etc. but you conveniently forget they have all been scouted and bought at low cost by a Champions league club with a view to develop them into valuable players, something they have done time and time again to make them one of very few profitable Serie A clubs.
I'm sure not all of their bargains work out but I'm also sure that the ones that did had no better stats than the five we have brought in recently.

Leave Wiki for the unknowing and trust in Pozzo's scouts and coaches ... it's a system that works.

Bringe wrote:
Cheers dan although I'm still adamant the last regime was just a puppet show.

Excited! we should be because once again we have stolen a march on the big money splashers. Despite what the bookies say we are putting something together that should see us right up there. Forget Forest, forget Leeds etc buying 2nd choice players that they can only hope will slot together, we have a host of players that play the same football under the same coaches day in day out.... That's a 20 point march on the others I reckon.

U 'Orns!!!!

That's it, I'm starting smoking, I need something to quell the tingling!
God I hope that sounds annoying to some!

Bringe wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

londomollari wrote:
Should have added "There's no such thing as a free lunch". But what we have at Wtaford now should be worth the occasional sacrifice---I hope. But please don't whinge when it happens.

Can you imagine if we let someone like Sean Murray go for peanuts to Udinese?

People will forget all the stability the Pozzo's will give us over the years and scream that we have been robbed.

Like you say, the odd sacrifice for long term stability is worth it.

Well I can't see it being this season but yeah, if we go up then the worlds his oyster. One thing we will have to get used to is the disengagement of finances for transfers. In reality when Udinese sell a player for £35m it benefits us too and vice versa, I think we can assume things will now be done in such a way to divert funds and players where most needed. The garden is rosey now but it won't always be and to a degree it's just something we'll have to accept. One thing's for sure ... it won't ever get boring.

Doesn't this loaning also help us with the financial fair play thingy coming in soon, if we don't have to buy players but loan them from Udinese Or Granada, our relatively small income streams can just be used for our staffs wages as the loanee's will be kept on the other clubs books.

JohnnyHornet wrote:

Bringe wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

londomollari wrote: Should have added "There's no such thing as a free lunch". But what we have at Wtaford now should be worth the occasional sacrifice---I hope. But please don't whinge when it happens.

Can you imagine if we let someone like Sean Murray go for peanuts to Udinese? People will forget all the stability the Pozzo's will give us over the years and scream that we have been robbed. Like you say, the odd sacrifice for long term stability is worth it.

Well I can't see it being this season but yeah, if we go up then the worlds his oyster. One thing we will have to get used to is the disengagement of finances for transfers. In reality when Udinese sell a player for £35m it benefits us too and vice versa, I think we can assume things will now be done in such a way to divert funds and players where most needed. The garden is rosey now but it won't always be and to a degree it's just something we'll have to accept. One thing's for sure ... it won't ever get boring.

Doesn't this loaning also help us with the financial fair play thingy coming in soon, if we don't have to buy players but loan them from Udinese Or Granada, our relatively small income streams can just be used for our staffs wages as the loanee's will be kept on the other clubs books.

the financial fair play is already running and is a farce and cannot be enforced so nothings changed.platini is another fool.

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

londomollari wrote:
Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.; And, of course, there is full reason for optimism. All sources seem to indicate that the loan players signed will all improve the squad, and will grace this league. Financial security. And, finally, news that makeweight Mirfin may be going.
And I have a day off work.

londomollari says...
1:31pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.

Don't forget one of the biggest pessimists on here....Bushey A*se

SAH just spent a hard day breaking rocks with ilovbas, sad to say he( or she, couldn't tell) is still wearing them same dirty old pantyhose.
It (easier description) is still quoting verse from the old testament but replaces all the biblical folk with his hero, so it's now Adam and Bas, Bas and his ark, the book of revelations ( safe combinations are hidden in code in that one) The book of Bas etc etc.
I took pity and done the decent thing.
What was that about my strange sense of humour..?
Lol

Welcome back sport. Your semi-nutty post above just goes to vindicate my "strange sense of humour" post. You'd think she would have changed her knick- knicks by now, eh? All thinking, positive posters missed you.....now behave, can't you!? Course you can't.

SAHornet wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

londomollari wrote:
Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.; And, of course, there is full reason for optimism. All sources seem to indicate that the loan players signed will all improve the squad, and will grace this league. Financial security. And, finally, news that makeweight Mirfin may be going.
And I have a day off work.

londomollari says...
1:31pm Tue 31 Jul 12

Isn't it great to view a watford site and, for the first time in years, find (almost) solid optimism. Apart from Corbin, of course---but well worth a chuckle.

Don't forget one of the biggest pessimists on here....Bushey A*se

SAH just spent a hard day breaking rocks with ilovbas, sad to say he( or she, couldn't tell) is still wearing them same dirty old pantyhose.
It (easier description) is still quoting verse from the old testament but replaces all the biblical folk with his hero, so it's now Adam and Bas, Bas and his ark, the book of revelations ( safe combinations are hidden in code in that one) The book of Bas etc etc.
I took pity and done the decent thing.
What was that about my strange sense of humour..?
Lol

Welcome back sport. Your semi-nutty post above just goes to vindicate my "strange sense of humour" post. You'd think she would have changed her knick- knicks by now, eh? All thinking, positive posters missed you.....now behave, can't you!? Course you can't.

Got to behave, just hope it's noted some of the provication that I do not call in, I've also been called a few names too. I've also had my real name posted on here which is sort of against the spirit of things, do I complain? Course not, I'm out there on twitter for all to see so I do actually back myself.
Anyway, I'm going to keep away from certain posters, which I was doing, but a couple in particular are pretty good at drawing me in. Silly me!
Anyway Bud things really looking good down at the Vic and it's certainly going to be a ride. Got my ticket for Sunday where hopefully we get to see the proto type of our new team and style.
If ever you want match updates join twitter, there's a community on there that tweets news of game to those who can't attend. I'm on as Dan Down / Luton Down
Be lucky

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

JohnnyHornet wrote:

Bringe wrote:

luther blissett wrote:

londomollari wrote: Should have added "There's no such thing as a free lunch". But what we have at Wtaford now should be worth the occasional sacrifice---I hope. But please don't whinge when it happens.

Can you imagine if we let someone like Sean Murray go for peanuts to Udinese? People will forget all the stability the Pozzo's will give us over the years and scream that we have been robbed. Like you say, the odd sacrifice for long term stability is worth it.

Well I can't see it being this season but yeah, if we go up then the worlds his oyster. One thing we will have to get used to is the disengagement of finances for transfers. In reality when Udinese sell a player for £35m it benefits us too and vice versa, I think we can assume things will now be done in such a way to divert funds and players where most needed. The garden is rosey now but it won't always be and to a degree it's just something we'll have to accept. One thing's for sure ... it won't ever get boring.

Doesn't this loaning also help us with the financial fair play thingy coming in soon, if we don't have to buy players but loan them from Udinese Or Granada, our relatively small income streams can just be used for our staffs wages as the loanee's will be kept on the other clubs books.

the financial fair play is already running and is a farce and cannot be enforced so nothings changed.platini is another fool.

Spot on Doc, taking sugar with my medicine it certainly does help with the bitterest pill!

too many doubts exist over this supposed embargo for my liking.

In reality my best guess is there was no embargo and the club are now owned by people who make announcements when they feel like it and remain unmoved about speculation from the fans.

It may be a sign of their approach to giving the club much needed stability. I wonder if fans forums will be a thing of the past?

D.unstable wrote:

D.unstable wrote:

corbindallas wrote: You know what, there are some very two faced and easily pleased people on this comments board, the club deliberately withhold information about the transfer embargo, then claim it was something to do with a small admin error and it seems that is all just ok. If it was Bassini he would be blasted to smithereens, the new club admin have deliberately yes that's right deliberately lied to us!!!! The official club statement from Duxbury said everything is sorted with the FL registration when clearly it WAS NOT, this is a blatant lie, then when asked direct by the WO and others they refuse to comment, WHY! What are they hiding, if it was a admin error so be it but to lie and state it was all sorted when it was not is not a great transparent start, in fact it is worse than a no show imo, and now they cleared the matter and announce the signings the simples think nothing more of it. Why am I so angry about this, no not because of Bassini supporting as some like to jump to as defence of their shortcomings, it has nothing to do with him he's GONE, FINISHED, it is because we the fans have been deliberately lied to, it is because Zola wanted to sign Carlo Cudicini instead of Almunia but couldn't make a bid for him because of the embargo which means we now have second choice in Zola's opinion (although admittedly better than what we had), I doubt CC will come now as Almunia wont want to sit on the bench to be understudy to CC and Zola had to get him or miss out on possibly both, also other free agents were looked at instead of signings thus the FH situation. Also who else have we lost whilst this was addressed, there where others which I will not go into detail but clearly we would have moved forward better without this apparent very secretive small admin error (there's more to this than we are being told)!! I also pick up the excuse on delay of signings in the said official statement about due diligence to take stock of the players on trail etc, so that's why we signed all of them and rejected none did Zola really have any other choice given the time taken to sort this out! Call me a septic if you like but I want what's best and clearly if we are accepting and as forgiving as some clearly seem to be about being lied to and a feeder for developing players then your in the right place, for me it's unacceptable and needs to be sorted for us to move forward and hopefully the Pozzo's can address the shortfalls clearly being shown already by our new CEO who seems to have not learn't from his West Ham day's on how to address the fans and his staff with the truth and FACTS!!!!

Do you know for a fact that Zola wanted CC ahead of Almunia or have you been reading too many rumour web sites? As with any business why would you want to advertise any negativity in particular during the honeymoon period, and let's face it any problem would have been left by the previous owners reign. They have an awful lot to get through in a very short space of time in order to get our club in a better position than it has been for many years to challenge once again. Do not lose sight of the FACT that we could have bvery easily been in Portsmouth's shoes right now if it was not for this buy out. I would suggest that you stop **** about the fact that you were not consulted throughout and be a little grateful that the club we love is in the position it is in right now. You just can't please some people!!!

I would just like to apologise to all that in the heat of the moment I responded to this original post.

The red mist obvioulsy came down and I did not realise that it was clearly the ramblings of a mad person and should have been ignored at all costs.

Do you remember the Cresta bear? The one who says its frothy man? That's poor Corby, he's a little frothy around the mouth
Bless

Chris the Vic wrote:
too many doubts exist over this supposed embargo for my liking.

In reality my best guess is there was no embargo and the club are now owned by people who make announcements when they feel like it and remain unmoved about speculation from the fans.

It may be a sign of their approach to giving the club much needed stability. I wonder if fans forums will be a thing of the past?

Too much guessing going on for my liking
I can only see good stuff happening.

Agreed LD too much guessing and far too malicious.

Thank goodness we will have football to talk about in less than three weeks ignoring the Wycombe game.

Chris the Vic wrote:
Agreed LD too much guessing and far too malicious.

Thank goodness we will have football to talk about in less than three weeks ignoring the Wycombe game.

Three weeks?mine starts Sunday mate!
COYH Nearly peeing my pants
(see Ed I'm a good boy now!)

WFCBigStu wrote:
Word from the training ground is that Garner. Yes, Garner is one of the best finishers and strikers of the ball on the training pitch. Maybe, Zola is bringing back the confidence he needs. In training matchs he is scoring the most. FACT!!

By all reports I think he's worth a tenner for league top scorer ...

100/1 at the moment