Watford striker Troy Deeney returns following his release from prison as QPR win 3-1

Watford Observer: Deeney makes playing return following his release from prison Deeney makes playing return following his release from prison

Troy Deeney played the first match since his release from prison as a Watford XI lost 3-1 to Queens Park Rangers Under-21s this afternoon.

Udinese loanee Steve Leo-Beleck scored for the Hornets as Fitz Hall and Stephen McGinn continued their recovery from injuries.

Deeney impressed during the first half before being substituted and Hall played 55 minutes with McGinn lasting 75.

QPR fielded a strong side, with Samba Diakite, DJ Campbell, Kieron Dyer and Shaun Derry all starting, and Rob Hulse coming on as a substitute.

Rangers took the lead when Campbell scored with the first of his side's two penalties after Michael Doughty was brought down, but the visitors replied before the interval through Beleck.

After the break, QPR took the lead with their second spot kick when Hulse was fouled and youngster Frankie Sutherland sent Jonathan Bond the wrong way.

Moments later Tom Hitchcock head in from close range to secure the victory at QPR's Harlington training ground.

QPR starting XI: Murphy, Sharif, Magri, Brown, Sutherland, Doughty, Dyer, Derry, Andrade, Hitchcock, Campbell.

Watford starting XI: Bond; Hodson, Hall, Hoban, Dickinson; McGinn, Smith, Chalobah; Beleck, Deeney, Forsyth.

Subs: Shnezel, Johnson, O'Nein, Bawling, Dillon, Hope.

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6:29pm Wed 19 Sep 12

dal8oy says...

Derry and and Dyer under 21? more like under 121....
Derry and and Dyer under 21? more like under 121.... dal8oy

6:37pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Hampshire hornet says...

Would have thought Deeney had had enough of playing behind closed doors ...

Guess a few scouts were there to sign up the surplus?

Good to see Chalobah getting more game time
Would have thought Deeney had had enough of playing behind closed doors ... Guess a few scouts were there to sign up the surplus? Good to see Chalobah getting more game time Hampshire hornet

6:44pm Wed 19 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

Wow, that Watford team should have beaten QPR. Hope that Chalobah starts on Sat.
Wow, that Watford team should have beaten QPR. Hope that Chalobah starts on Sat. SAHornet

7:11pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

Good to see some 16 year olds on bench
Good to see some 16 year olds on bench Holly68

7:50pm Wed 19 Sep 12

andyandyandy says...

Wonder if we were having a look at Cambell?
Wonder if we were having a look at Cambell? andyandyandy

7:58pm Wed 19 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed.

Harefield gone!

what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!.
these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes.

the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING!

all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year.

sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :(
just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed. Harefield gone! what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!. these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes. the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING! all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year. sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :( sweetsu

8:01pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Mickey Quinn, not so thin says...

have we really got a sub called "schnezel" ?? fantastic.
have we really got a sub called "schnezel" ?? fantastic. Mickey Quinn, not so thin

8:25pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

sweetsu wrote:
just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed.

Harefield gone!

what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!.
these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes.

the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING!

all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year.

sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :(
bye bye Raj
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed. Harefield gone! what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!. these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes. the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING! all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year. sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :([/p][/quote]bye bye Raj Holly68

8:30pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term Holly68

8:38pm Wed 19 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed.

Harefield gone!

what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!.
these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes.

the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING!

all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year.

sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :(
bye bye Raj
i am not raj you idiot
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed. Harefield gone! what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!. these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes. the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING! all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year. sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :([/p][/quote]bye bye Raj[/p][/quote]i am not raj you idiot sweetsu

8:44pm Wed 19 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray.

its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what.
promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner.
you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots sweetsu

8:52pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray.

its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what.
promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner.
you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co ....

Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL

No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ! Holly68

9:04pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt

Name the Dutch club ?

I have contacts in Dutch FA
Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt Name the Dutch club ? I have contacts in Dutch FA Holly68

9:06pm Wed 19 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

sweetsu wrote:
just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed.

Harefield gone!

what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!.
these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes.

the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING!

all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year.

sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :(
Grow up and move on sweaty sue
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed. Harefield gone! what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!. these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes. the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING! all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year. sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :([/p][/quote]Grow up and move on sweaty sue SAHornet

9:19pm Wed 19 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

Holly68 wrote:
Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt

Name the Dutch club ?

I have contacts in Dutch FA
i have never worked at the club. just upset that the club i support has completely changed and no one cares.
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt Name the Dutch club ? I have contacts in Dutch FA[/p][/quote]i have never worked at the club. just upset that the club i support has completely changed and no one cares. sweetsu

9:20pm Wed 19 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray.

its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what.
promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner.
you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co ....

Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL

No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it. sweetsu

9:32pm Wed 19 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

Holly68 wrote:
Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt

Name the Dutch club ?

I have contacts in Dutch FA
de graafschap

look it up. it failed
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt Name the Dutch club ? I have contacts in Dutch FA[/p][/quote]de graafschap look it up. it failed sweetsu

10:17pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Andrew1963 says...

If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz!
If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz! Andrew1963

10:22pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Andrew1963 says...

Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term
I can see the redevelopment as a likely event. The ground will be worth more as housing, and with the club relocatted within the Health Campus on the old power sation site or further 'afield'.
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]I can see the redevelopment as a likely event. The ground will be worth more as housing, and with the club relocatted within the Health Campus on the old power sation site or further 'afield'. Andrew1963

10:37pm Wed 19 Sep 12

D.unstable says...

sweetsu wrote:
just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed.

Harefield gone!

what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!.
these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes.

the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING!

all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year.

sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :(
you numpty, go away

Nothing more to add to your attention seeking post.
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: just heard from a very reliable source that last week gianluca nanni phoned Cardiff and offered them all of the scholars and young pros in our academy :( a truly sad day, not sure i want to watch my team anymore. the academy is now going to be closed. Harefield gone! what next for us. in 2 and half months we lost our respectible football director. gone ! then our corporate director, gone! then manager and all the coaches.gone! our catering staff. gone! Marketing manager.gone!. these are all the people that made our club a family club. bet no one is worried about the children on a match day without leigh brooks. no face painters,no marching bands, no good causes. the heart and soul of our family club has been ripped out all in the name of results on the pitch and the premier league.rubbish i say . we are sacrificing jobs and the spirit of our club and the results are not even there. what hapens when the results don't come. what is left then. NOTHING! all the happy clappers should look at the bigger picture. no one is interested in us anymore. its about money and the premier league. I bet all the prices go up dramtically next year. sorry about the rant but i feel so so sad :([/p][/quote]you numpty, go away Nothing more to add to your attention seeking post. D.unstable

10:39pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Andrew1963 says...

By the way i see Taylors arrival at Sheffield Wednesday has not resulted in an improvement in their defence!
By the way i see Taylors arrival at Sheffield Wednesday has not resulted in an improvement in their defence! Andrew1963

10:48pm Wed 19 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

Andrew1963 wrote:
If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz!
De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.?

y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening.

it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig.

if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me.

you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.
[quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz![/p][/quote]De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee. sweetsu

11:03pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Hampshire hornet says...

sweetsu wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote:
If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz!
De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.?

y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening.

it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig.

if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me.

you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.
I can smell something.. For sure... It certainly isn't coffee....
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz![/p][/quote]De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]I can smell something.. For sure... It certainly isn't coffee.... Hampshire hornet

11:03pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Essex Hornet says...

Deeney back playing again has to be a honus after suffering 75 minutes of Iwelumo huffing and puffing across the pitch and going nowhere last night. I thought we played some great football but the the peneration in the final third was dire. We all know big Chris is well past the sell by date and at best is an impact sub. As for Vydra he showed some great touches but can't do it all on his own . What was the point of bringing Beleck on with 12 minutes to go when we're 1-0 down? He should have been on at half time. If Zola can find a half decent striker amongst the squad of 42 we could be dangerous and soon marching up the league. On the positive side Forestieri looks a great find and showed some passion and desire that hasn't been seen since the days of Mooney.
Deeney back playing again has to be a honus after suffering 75 minutes of Iwelumo huffing and puffing across the pitch and going nowhere last night. I thought we played some great football but the the peneration in the final third was dire. We all know big Chris is well past the sell by date and at best is an impact sub. As for Vydra he showed some great touches but can't do it all on his own . What was the point of bringing Beleck on with 12 minutes to go when we're 1-0 down? He should have been on at half time. If Zola can find a half decent striker amongst the squad of 42 we could be dangerous and soon marching up the league. On the positive side Forestieri looks a great find and showed some passion and desire that hasn't been seen since the days of Mooney. Essex Hornet

11:48pm Wed 19 Sep 12

Dr,Oftaw says...

sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray.

its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what.
promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner.
you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co ....

Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL

No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.[/p][/quote]Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu Dr,Oftaw

11:59pm Wed 19 Sep 12

gilesy97 says...

Dr,Oftaw wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray.

its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what.
promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner.
you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co ....

Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL

No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu
So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly.
Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.
[quote][p][bold]Dr,Oftaw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.[/p][/quote]Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu[/p][/quote]So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap. gilesy97

5:50am Thu 20 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Andrew1963 wrote:
By the way i see Taylors arrival at Sheffield Wednesday has not resulted in an improvement in their defence!
SWFC fans are absolutely slating Taylor! Just saying :-)
[quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: By the way i see Taylors arrival at Sheffield Wednesday has not resulted in an improvement in their defence![/p][/quote]SWFC fans are absolutely slating Taylor! Just saying :-) lutondown

5:52am Thu 20 Sep 12

lutondown says...

gilesy97 wrote:
Dr,Oftaw wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray.

its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what.
promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner.
you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co ....

Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL

No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu
So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly.
Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.
How would you know? Being the Luton fan you are.
Go now and take your black cloud with you
[quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr,Oftaw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.[/p][/quote]Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu[/p][/quote]So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.[/p][/quote]How would you know? Being the Luton fan you are. Go now and take your black cloud with you lutondown

7:40am Thu 20 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

gilesy97 wrote:
Dr,Oftaw wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu
So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.
Mark, your so miserable - cheer up :-)
[quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr,Oftaw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.[/p][/quote]Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu[/p][/quote]So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.[/p][/quote]Mark, your so miserable - cheer up :-) Holly68

8:49am Thu 20 Sep 12

JohnnyHornet says...

Hampshire hornet wrote:
Would have thought Deeney had had enough of playing behind closed doors ...

Guess a few scouts were there to sign up the surplus?

Good to see Chalobah getting more game time
You wait until it rains, and some bu66er throws in some soap, watch him move then.
[quote][p][bold]Hampshire hornet[/bold] wrote: Would have thought Deeney had had enough of playing behind closed doors ... Guess a few scouts were there to sign up the surplus? Good to see Chalobah getting more game time[/p][/quote]You wait until it rains, and some bu66er throws in some soap, watch him move then. JohnnyHornet

8:54am Thu 20 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

gilesy97 wrote:
Dr,Oftaw wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad.

I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend

Pozzo looking into this

They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray.

its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what.
promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner.
you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co ....

Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL

No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu
So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly.
Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.
Sweaty sue and Mr. Sweaty Sue
[quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr,Oftaw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.[/p][/quote]Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu[/p][/quote]So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.[/p][/quote]Sweaty sue and Mr. Sweaty Sue SAHornet

8:57am Thu 20 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

I never heard of any of our 6 subs and The WO doesn't even state who replaced Deeney, Hall & McGinn
I never heard of any of our 6 subs and The WO doesn't even state who replaced Deeney, Hall & McGinn SAHornet

8:58am Thu 20 Sep 12

SAHornet says...

I never heard of any of our 6 subs and The WO doesn't even state who replaced Deeney, Hall & McGinn
I never heard of any of our 6 subs and The WO doesn't even state who replaced Deeney, Hall & McGinn SAHornet

9:12am Thu 20 Sep 12

gilesy97 says...

Holly68 wrote:
gilesy97 wrote:
Dr,Oftaw wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu
So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.
Mark, your so miserable - cheer up :-)
Paul , the great thing about this "debate" is that if people have an opinion that doesn't seem to fit in with others , they are slagged off or sarcastically put down..
Paul , you talk about "sources" and seem to have them "All over the World" , but they are obviously different people to the ones I speak to.
Paul , I know you use the hospitality etc , but it is a concern when we ..the normal fan....have to dish out money ( expensive money) to watch a game and that the catering prices going up , makes a difference. It may not make a difference to a bloke who 's got plenty of money ,like you , but to familys and young kids it does. OK. A couple of weeks ago you moaned about the fact it cost £170 to get you and two kids to Derby etc.
I'm not jumping over hoops just because " the Pozzo's saved the club". ..the club wouldn't have gone under totally ......but like any other takeover , new ownership etc..esp from a different culture there will be changes. That doesn't mean they will be all good. That doesn't mean the two running this club now are good for Watford. There are a lot of people unhappy , including supporters and THEY are entitled to an opinion .Not to be sarcastically put down or abused. Remember there are good people at Watford and they are at meeting trying to steer the new people into doing things the riht way for Watford. I suggest you come to a few more away games ( as you said you're a true supporter and support the tougher games ( ie Bolton away ) instead of swanning off to QPR v Chelsea. At least then you can judge whats happening to the team without resulting in hearsay of"sources". Just remember Mr.Holden , that people know people in the game , including me , and many thngs ( no doubt good and bad) are going on ..but one or two things are happening quietly , which have puzzled people from other clubs and are concerned. The debate on this club shouldn't be either one of total excitement , or of total gloom ,just somewhere in between and see where it goes. Its like school playtime on this page . BTW..childish remarks about certain ex players / managers/ the present so called " inferior" present players is just that childish. The fact is over the last few years EVEYONE has helped to keep this club in the championship ..despite having NO money , no resource..they've worked hard .Without them , we would have gone down and this little POZZO dream team would not have happened. History is important at any club and they are part of it. So respect where it's due. I'm sure as you have an important position at your company , you wouldn't start name slagging childishly at everyone that held your position previously. Anyway , . I expect to see you at Huddersfield perhaps.....or are the Fulham , Arsenal games that day more important. COYH. Good win on Saturday , and at least the on field issues will look better.
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr,Oftaw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.[/p][/quote]Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu[/p][/quote]So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.[/p][/quote]Mark, your so miserable - cheer up :-)[/p][/quote]Paul , the great thing about this "debate" is that if people have an opinion that doesn't seem to fit in with others , they are slagged off or sarcastically put down.. Paul , you talk about "sources" and seem to have them "All over the World" , but they are obviously different people to the ones I speak to. Paul , I know you use the hospitality etc , but it is a concern when we ..the normal fan....have to dish out money ( expensive money) to watch a game and that the catering prices going up , makes a difference. It may not make a difference to a bloke who 's got plenty of money ,like you , but to familys and young kids it does. OK. A couple of weeks ago you moaned about the fact it cost £170 to get you and two kids to Derby etc. I'm not jumping over hoops just because " the Pozzo's saved the club". ..the club wouldn't have gone under totally ......but like any other takeover , new ownership etc..esp from a different culture there will be changes. That doesn't mean they will be all good. That doesn't mean the two running this club now are good for Watford. There are a lot of people unhappy , including supporters and THEY are entitled to an opinion .Not to be sarcastically put down or abused. Remember there are good people at Watford and they are at meeting trying to steer the new people into doing things the riht way for Watford. I suggest you come to a few more away games ( as you said you're a true supporter and support the tougher games ( ie Bolton away ) instead of swanning off to QPR v Chelsea. At least then you can judge whats happening to the team without resulting in hearsay of"sources". Just remember Mr.Holden , that people know people in the game , including me , and many thngs ( no doubt good and bad) are going on ..but one or two things are happening quietly , which have puzzled people from other clubs and are concerned. The debate on this club shouldn't be either one of total excitement , or of total gloom ,just somewhere in between and see where it goes. Its like school playtime on this page . BTW..childish remarks about certain ex players / managers/ the present so called " inferior" present players is just that childish. The fact is over the last few years EVEYONE has helped to keep this club in the championship ..despite having NO money , no resource..they've worked hard .Without them , we would have gone down and this little POZZO dream team would not have happened. History is important at any club and they are part of it. So respect where it's due. I'm sure as you have an important position at your company , you wouldn't start name slagging childishly at everyone that held your position previously. Anyway , . I expect to see you at Huddersfield perhaps.....or are the Fulham , Arsenal games that day more important. COYH. Good win on Saturday , and at least the on field issues will look better. gilesy97

9:17am Thu 20 Sep 12

tonupchris says...

sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt

Name the Dutch club ?

I have contacts in Dutch FA
de graafschap

look it up. it failed
Can you provide a link to this then? No mention in Wiki, no mention in the clubs history, no mention in the history of The Pozzo Family. Incidentally 10 years ago coincided with the most successful period in the clubs history! Show me some proof.
Ps. If you believe that Cardiff story you'll believe anything. The one thing this lot definitely won't do is give away things for nothing.
If you don't like what's going on go elsewhere
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: Sweetsu = another ex member of staff with a chip on their shoulder NO Doubt Name the Dutch club ? I have contacts in Dutch FA[/p][/quote]de graafschap look it up. it failed[/p][/quote]Can you provide a link to this then? No mention in Wiki, no mention in the clubs history, no mention in the history of The Pozzo Family. Incidentally 10 years ago coincided with the most successful period in the clubs history! Show me some proof. Ps. If you believe that Cardiff story you'll believe anything. The one thing this lot definitely won't do is give away things for nothing. If you don't like what's going on go elsewhere tonupchris

9:27am Thu 20 Sep 12

aefevans says...

sweetsu wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz!
De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.
You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing.
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz![/p][/quote]De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing. aefevans

5:39pm Thu 20 Sep 12

sweetsu says...

aefevans wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz!
De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.
You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing.
i was told from a very good dutch friend who lnow lives here
[quote][p][bold]aefevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz![/p][/quote]De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing.[/p][/quote]i was told from a very good dutch friend who lnow lives here sweetsu

6:17pm Thu 20 Sep 12

a1derek says...

Oh well, at least we have a decent pint of lager at long last even if it is more expensive. Didn't try the food so can't comment.
Oh well, at least we have a decent pint of lager at long last even if it is more expensive. Didn't try the food so can't comment. a1derek

10:35pm Thu 20 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

sweetsu wrote:
aefevans wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz!
De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.
You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing.
i was told from a very good dutch friend who lnow lives here
van de ****
[quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aefevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz![/p][/quote]De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing.[/p][/quote]i was told from a very good dutch friend who lnow lives here[/p][/quote]van de **** Holly68

10:42pm Thu 20 Sep 12

lutondown says...

Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
aefevans wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Andrew1963 wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz!
De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.
You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing.
i was told from a very good dutch friend who lnow lives here
van de ****
obviously speaks double Dutch, that Pozzo takeover never happened, it's not anywhere. What a weak attempt to discredit those who saved our club from administration.
Syrupy su tells whoppers too!
[quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aefevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew1963[/bold] wrote: If De Graafschap is failure goodness knows what SweetSu would describe Watford in Administration under Baz![/p][/quote]De Graafschap "project" failed because pozzo's brought in loads of italian players who did not fit into the dutch system. it caused arguments between the players. sounds familiar.? y would we have been in admin under baz, granted he was shocking at times, where is the proof other than posts on this site. i haven't seen a shred of factual evidence anywhere. surely timperley and co would have said something. actually their silence is deafening. it was the russo's and the other billionnaire idiots who nearly put the club in admin. they all had loads of money but didn't want to spend it on us. they did nothing to the stadium , neglected it for years, spent shed loads on vialli and co, bought a crap pub and mismanaged everythig. if it wasn't for julian winter there would not be a club. Baz stopped the club from going into admin when no one wanted it and sold it for a profit. sounds like good business to me. you lot should wake up and smell the coffee.[/p][/quote]You're going to have to tell us where you found this as I just Googled "de graafschap"and "Pozzo" in the same search and the only page where the two were linked was on this page. Even Google's picked up on your whingeing.[/p][/quote]i was told from a very good dutch friend who lnow lives here[/p][/quote]van de ****[/p][/quote]obviously speaks double Dutch, that Pozzo takeover never happened, it's not anywhere. What a weak attempt to discredit those who saved our club from administration. Syrupy su tells whoppers too! lutondown

10:51pm Thu 20 Sep 12

Holly68 says...

gilesy97 wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
gilesy97 wrote:
Dr,Oftaw wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote:
sweetsu wrote:
Holly68 wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term
did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots
Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon !
do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.
Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu
So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.
Mark, your so miserable - cheer up :-)
Paul , the great thing about this "debate" is that if people have an opinion that doesn't seem to fit in with others , they are slagged off or sarcastically put down..
Paul , you talk about "sources" and seem to have them "All over the World" , but they are obviously different people to the ones I speak to.
Paul , I know you use the hospitality etc , but it is a concern when we ..the normal fan....have to dish out money ( expensive money) to watch a game and that the catering prices going up , makes a difference. It may not make a difference to a bloke who 's got plenty of money ,like you , but to familys and young kids it does. OK. A couple of weeks ago you moaned about the fact it cost £170 to get you and two kids to Derby etc.
I'm not jumping over hoops just because " the Pozzo's saved the club". ..the club wouldn't have gone under totally ......but like any other takeover , new ownership etc..esp from a different culture there will be changes. That doesn't mean they will be all good. That doesn't mean the two running this club now are good for Watford. There are a lot of people unhappy , including supporters and THEY are entitled to an opinion .Not to be sarcastically put down or abused. Remember there are good people at Watford and they are at meeting trying to steer the new people into doing things the riht way for Watford. I suggest you come to a few more away games ( as you said you're a true supporter and support the tougher games ( ie Bolton away ) instead of swanning off to QPR v Chelsea. At least then you can judge whats happening to the team without resulting in hearsay of"sources". Just remember Mr.Holden , that people know people in the game , including me , and many thngs ( no doubt good and bad) are going on ..but one or two things are happening quietly , which have puzzled people from other clubs and are concerned. The debate on this club shouldn't be either one of total excitement , or of total gloom ,just somewhere in between and see where it goes. Its like school playtime on this page . BTW..childish remarks about certain ex players / managers/ the present so called " inferior" present players is just that childish. The fact is over the last few years EVEYONE has helped to keep this club in the championship ..despite having NO money , no resource..they've worked hard .Without them , we would have gone down and this little POZZO dream team would not have happened. History is important at any club and they are part of it. So respect where it's due. I'm sure as you have an important position at your company , you wouldn't start name slagging childishly at everyone that held your position previously. Anyway , . I expect to see you at Huddersfield perhaps.....or are the Fulham , Arsenal games that day more important. COYH. Good win on Saturday , and at least the on field issues will look better.
BlImey, that's a long post, must've hit a nerve LOL

every post lately from you Mr Giles has negative undertones

It seems you don't like change :-)

I admire you for travelling to all the away games, it becomes a religion, it is an expensive day out, and time consuming.

I love football, I love Watford (40 years), Wealdstone (on and off 35 years), England (40 years), then quality football of any kind.

I attend at least 4 matches minim a week in person from youth matches to international, plus at least 4 a week on TV ....

So I am a true football fan !

My beloved club was being run into the ground by clown Baz, luckily not now

So do I care if 20p been added to a cup of tea in order that we have players of quality to watch, you don't have to buy it !

Let's embrace change and smile smile smile
[quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gilesy97[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr,Oftaw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sweetsu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holly68[/bold] wrote: My sources tell me Zola is at Harefield tomorrow Meeting not just the scholars but the post 16 development squad. I also hear that we might get a new ground within 5 years, 25000 purpose built with ability to extend Pozzo looking into this They thinking long term[/p][/quote]did a little digging, the pozzo's took over a club in holland 10 years ago. The Project cos thats what we are, failed and they left the club in disarray. its hard to go back if it fails. if we dont get in the premier league i suspect they will leave. then what. promises and words mean nothing. i have not seen any movement in the south west corner. you are all blind to whats going on. its all cheap PR and you are all lapping it up like idiots[/p][/quote]Buggar off to Cardiff with your mates Mcpie and Mcstow and Mcspringham and Mckerslake and co .... Nano ringing up Cardiff and offering all our scholars LOL LOL LOL No doubt Cardiff's wonderful new global scouting network (holidays for the Mcscouts) will expand outside of Berkhamstead and West London sooooooon ![/p][/quote]do you not care that the boys who have been dreaming of playing for us will have thei dreams shattered. i don't get it.[/p][/quote]Sounds like one of the rejects bitter mum's to me, go cry somewhere else bittersu[/p][/quote]So , Premiership in 3 years , new ground within 5 years ..anything else..Champions league winners or maybe even the World Club Championship in 6 years. Christ just saw a pig fly. Still , in the real world I notice all the catering prices have gone up .....and reports are the food is crap.[/p][/quote]Mark, your so miserable - cheer up :-)[/p][/quote]Paul , the great thing about this "debate" is that if people have an opinion that doesn't seem to fit in with others , they are slagged off or sarcastically put down.. Paul , you talk about "sources" and seem to have them "All over the World" , but they are obviously different people to the ones I speak to. Paul , I know you use the hospitality etc , but it is a concern when we ..the normal fan....have to dish out money ( expensive money) to watch a game and that the catering prices going up , makes a difference. It may not make a difference to a bloke who 's got plenty of money ,like you , but to familys and young kids it does. OK. A couple of weeks ago you moaned about the fact it cost £170 to get you and two kids to Derby etc. I'm not jumping over hoops just because " the Pozzo's saved the club". ..the club wouldn't have gone under totally ......but like any other takeover , new ownership etc..esp from a different culture there will be changes. That doesn't mean they will be all good. That doesn't mean the two running this club now are good for Watford. There are a lot of people unhappy , including supporters and THEY are entitled to an opinion .Not to be sarcastically put down or abused. Remember there are good people at Watford and they are at meeting trying to steer the new people into doing things the riht way for Watford. I suggest you come to a few more away games ( as you said you're a true supporter and support the tougher games ( ie Bolton away ) instead of swanning off to QPR v Chelsea. At least then you can judge whats happening to the team without resulting in hearsay of"sources". Just remember Mr.Holden , that people know people in the game , including me , and many thngs ( no doubt good and bad) are going on ..but one or two things are happening quietly , which have puzzled people from other clubs and are concerned. The debate on this club shouldn't be either one of total excitement , or of total gloom ,just somewhere in between and see where it goes. Its like school playtime on this page . BTW..childish remarks about certain ex players / managers/ the present so called " inferior" present players is just that childish. The fact is over the last few years EVEYONE has helped to keep this club in the championship ..despite having NO money , no resource..they've worked hard .Without them , we would have gone down and this little POZZO dream team would not have happened. History is important at any club and they are part of it. So respect where it's due. I'm sure as you have an important position at your company , you wouldn't start name slagging childishly at everyone that held your position previously. Anyway , . I expect to see you at Huddersfield perhaps.....or are the Fulham , Arsenal games that day more important. COYH. Good win on Saturday , and at least the on field issues will look better.[/p][/quote]BlImey, that's a long post, must've hit a nerve LOL every post lately from you Mr Giles has negative undertones It seems you don't like change :-) I admire you for travelling to all the away games, it becomes a religion, it is an expensive day out, and time consuming. I love football, I love Watford (40 years), Wealdstone (on and off 35 years), England (40 years), then quality football of any kind. I attend at least 4 matches minim a week in person from youth matches to international, plus at least 4 a week on TV .... So I am a true football fan ! My beloved club was being run into the ground by clown Baz, luckily not now So do I care if 20p been added to a cup of tea in order that we have players of quality to watch, you don't have to buy it ! Let's embrace change and smile smile smile Holly68

11:39pm Thu 20 Sep 12

gilesy97 says...

Well Mr Holden , I do embrace change , but not all change is necessarily good or without problems. I 'm happy that the club appears to have no money worries now. I like some of the football that is being played ( although at this stage it's not winning matches).There are things I've disagreed with so far , too many loans, Zola's tactics , catering going up ,quality / fitness of players , Taylor's departure and a few other things...and I have reservations on the future, and there's no crime in any of that . So yes I am also informed ,as they say , and have my "sources" as you would say . So whilst you embrace unreservedly as though you've won the lottery ,and are "gushing " with the attitude that everything is fantastic I will follow at a slower pace like quite a lot of other fans are. I too have seen , and played , and refereed , and got to know a lot of football people over the years ( and I'm older than you ) so don't take the p*ss out of someone else's opinions...whether that be me or someone else on the subject of Watford FC.Everybody wants the same thing , a winning team , decent football , and a good affordable experience on a Saturday PM. I'm pleased that you have got the time and money to watch 4 games a week plus another 4 on TV. Your job obviously gives you that luxury, with your position at the top of your company. But football is about opinions and whilst I don't make sarcastic comments and try to belittle what you think , I trust you will stop doing that to me and others that take the time to write how they feel too. I'm pleased that you watched Watford and England when you were 4 years old ..unfortunately , I didn't get to start until a bit later as I struggled to stand on the terracing at that age :) There's nothing wrong with healthy discussion , but your attitude is of "I'm right , you shouldn't have an opinion cos I have sources". Now lets stop this and get on with supporting THE CLUB in a balanced way.Thank you kind sir !!! :-)
Well Mr Holden , I do embrace change , but not all change is necessarily good or without problems. I 'm happy that the club appears to have no money worries now. I like some of the football that is being played ( although at this stage it's not winning matches).There are things I've disagreed with so far , too many loans, Zola's tactics , catering going up ,quality / fitness of players , Taylor's departure and a few other things...and I have reservations on the future, and there's no crime in any of that . So yes I am also informed ,as they say , and have my "sources" as you would say . So whilst you embrace unreservedly as though you've won the lottery ,and are "gushing " with the attitude that everything is fantastic I will follow at a slower pace like quite a lot of other fans are. I too have seen , and played , and refereed , and got to know a lot of football people over the years ( and I'm older than you ) so don't take the p*ss out of someone else's opinions...whether that be me or someone else on the subject of Watford FC.Everybody wants the same thing , a winning team , decent football , and a good affordable experience on a Saturday PM. I'm pleased that you have got the time and money to watch 4 games a week plus another 4 on TV. Your job obviously gives you that luxury, with your position at the top of your company. But football is about opinions and whilst I don't make sarcastic comments and try to belittle what you think , I trust you will stop doing that to me and others that take the time to write how they feel too. I'm pleased that you watched Watford and England when you were 4 years old ..unfortunately , I didn't get to start until a bit later as I struggled to stand on the terracing at that age :) There's nothing wrong with healthy discussion , but your attitude is of "I'm right , you shouldn't have an opinion cos I have sources". Now lets stop this and get on with supporting THE CLUB in a balanced way.Thank you kind sir !!! :-) gilesy97

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