Deeney could make Hornets return against Bristol City (From Watford Observer)

akureyri wrote:
What this says about the fitness of the other players, if Troy Deeney is in a position to be in the team at the weekend, after his absence, is worrying.

akureyri wrote:
What this says about the fitness of the other players, if Troy Deeney is in a position to be in the team at the weekend, after his absence, is worrying.

akureyri wrote:
What this says about the fitness of the other players, if Troy Deeney is in a position to be in the team at the weekend, after his absence, is worrying.

Jon_mk wrote:
How Deeney doesn't have a muscle imbalance is beyond me.

DuffmanWFC wrote:
The way we are set up to play means Deeney will fit the team ethic better than big Chris!
He has a much better scoring ratio and should pip big Chris to a slot on the bench as he ain't really doing much is he? He will slot in well with Vydra and Forestieri

AngelHornet wrote:
Apologies! I meant to say, who would be the main striker if Deeney pips Iwelumo to the bench?

endean2 wrote:

akureyri wrote:
What this says about the fitness of the other players, if Troy Deeney is in a position to be in the team at the weekend, after his absence, is worrying.

you took the words r ight out of my mouth.
HOW in heavens name can we have a man 3 months inside be in the correct physical condition to play
............and we have a list of players who have been with for 6\8 weeks who are. still are unable to get on the pitch?
sorry this simply does not make any sort of sense to me.
do we have the right people assesing the condition of this massive influx of players?

SAHornet wrote:
I think that most people already know that Hall is severely injury prone and there are even some that say that he is a serial philanderer. If this continues with him, perhaps the time is coming when we release him from whatever contract he has and find a suitable replacement.

As far as Geijo is concerned, does anyone know if he has a record of proneness to injuries?

SAHornet wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
I think that most people already know that Hall is severely injury prone and there are even some that say that he is a serial philanderer. If this continues with him, perhaps the time is coming when we release him from whatever contract he has and find a suitable replacement.

As far as Geijo is concerned, does anyone know if he has a record of proneness to injuries?

I think that most people already know that Hall is severely injury prone and there are even some that say that he is a serial philanderer. If this continues with him, perhaps the time is coming when we release him from whatever contract he has and find a suitable replacement.

As far as Geijo is concerned, does anyone know if he has a record of proneness to injuries?

Bobbyhowfield wrote:
I understand he's been keeping fit playing 'keepy uppy' with Fred West during time in the pokey !!

Chris the Vic wrote:
It is simply time for the Pozzos and Nani to make a statement. How can Deeney be so fit and so many from Udinese sent to us for a year long loan be so unft. Are they incapable this year of getting their players fit or do they see us as a dumping ground for the injured etc. I like Vydra and Abdi, the signing of Almunia was good, the timing of the sale of Tiny was awful and given Cassetti's age, perhaps Tiny should have been given a two year deal. Putting the Pozzos to one side, this management team to date are very similar to what Sullivan and Gold described when they sai West Ham were a very badly run club. From a WFC perspective we have far less worries now over financial problems nd far greater worries of mismanagement with regard to the team. Hopefully GFZ will pull it around with the remnants of last years team and with Vydra ad Abdi. As for Geijo and Hall will they ever play?

gilesy97 wrote:
Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)

Travelling Hornet wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:
Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)

I think dedication to training is the one thing the new players can learn from our the English ones.
Sometimes in life you need a wake up call to take stock of what you have and might lose. Going to prison was Troy Deeneys. And should be a big lesson to others around him too!
As for Zolas tactical awareness I think he's doing fine, Chelsea would not trust one of their finest young players to his care and techniques if they thought he wasnt coaching the players correctly.
One last thing, I think Marco Cassetti is a superb signing for us, at 36 he provides an old head to marshal the defence, i know at his age he may have lost a bit of pace, but his experience counters this . On Tuesday he was like a beaded Italian assassin , you don't get to play for Italy if you are a poor defender!!!!!!!!
It reminds me when GT signed the leaden footed Pat Rice at RB for his 'old head' back in the 80s.

Dr,Oftaw wrote:

Chris the Vic wrote:
It is simply time for the Pozzos and Nani to make a statement. How can Deeney be so fit and so many from Udinese sent to us for a year long loan be so unft. Are they incapable this year of getting their players fit or do they see us as a dumping ground for the injured etc. I like Vydra and Abdi, the signing of Almunia was good, the timing of the sale of Tiny was awful and given Cassetti's age, perhaps Tiny should have been given a two year deal. Putting the Pozzos to one side, this management team to date are very similar to what Sullivan and Gold described when they sai West Ham were a very badly run club. From a WFC perspective we have far less worries now over financial problems nd far greater worries of mismanagement with regard to the team. Hopefully GFZ will pull it around with the remnants of last years team and with Vydra ad Abdi. As for Geijo and Hall will they ever play?

mr rhyming slang you really are one.stop spouting drivel, baz is gone dyche is gone last years dross football is gone, get over it, do try to be more POZZOtive.some players are unfit, so what they cost us nothing and we have a big squad that is fit.take a look at man u`s squad do their fans keep banging on about their unfit players? no.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Travelling Hornet wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:
Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)

I think dedication to training is the one thing the new players can learn from our the English ones.
Sometimes in life you need a wake up call to take stock of what you have and might lose. Going to prison was Troy Deeneys. And should be a big lesson to others around him too!
As for Zolas tactical awareness I think he's doing fine, Chelsea would not trust one of their finest young players to his care and techniques if they thought he wasnt coaching the players correctly.
One last thing, I think Marco Cassetti is a superb signing for us, at 36 he provides an old head to marshal the defence, i know at his age he may have lost a bit of pace, but his experience counters this . On Tuesday he was like a beaded Italian assassin , you don't get to play for Italy if you are a poor defender!!!!!!!!
It reminds me when GT signed the leaden footed Pat Rice at RB for his 'old head' back in the 80s.

...but he was run raged and hauled off at halftime for some spurious injury to prevent further embarrassment. 36 is fine for a central player but not someone to mark a wideman.

Travelling Hornet wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Travelling Hornet wrote:

gilesy97 wrote: Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)

I think dedication to training is the one thing the new players can learn from our the English ones. Sometimes in life you need a wake up call to take stock of what you have and might lose. Going to prison was Troy Deeneys. And should be a big lesson to others around him too! As for Zolas tactical awareness I think he's doing fine, Chelsea would not trust one of their finest young players to his care and techniques if they thought he wasnt coaching the players correctly. One last thing, I think Marco Cassetti is a superb signing for us, at 36 he provides an old head to marshal the defence, i know at his age he may have lost a bit of pace, but his experience counters this . On Tuesday he was like a beaded Italian assassin , you don't get to play for Italy if you are a poor defender!!!!!!!! It reminds me when GT signed the leaden footed Pat Rice at RB for his 'old head' back in the 80s.

...but he was run raged and hauled off at halftime for some spurious injury to prevent further embarrassment. 36 is fine for a central player but not someone to mark a wideman.

What was the score at HT ?

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Travelling Hornet wrote:

gilesy97 wrote: Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)

I think dedication to training is the one thing the new players can learn from our the English ones. Sometimes in life you need a wake up call to take stock of what you have and might lose. Going to prison was Troy Deeneys. And should be a big lesson to others around him too! As for Zolas tactical awareness I think he's doing fine, Chelsea would not trust one of their finest young players to his care and techniques if they thought he wasnt coaching the players correctly. One last thing, I think Marco Cassetti is a superb signing for us, at 36 he provides an old head to marshal the defence, i know at his age he may have lost a bit of pace, but his experience counters this . On Tuesday he was like a beaded Italian assassin , you don't get to play for Italy if you are a poor defender!!!!!!!! It reminds me when GT signed the leaden footed Pat Rice at RB for his 'old head' back in the 80s.

...but he was run raged and hauled off at halftime for some spurious injury to prevent further embarrassment. 36 is fine for a central player but not someone to mark a wideman.

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Travelling Hornet wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:
Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)

I think dedication to training is the one thing the new players can learn from our the English ones.
Sometimes in life you need a wake up call to take stock of what you have and might lose. Going to prison was Troy Deeneys. And should be a big lesson to others around him too!
As for Zolas tactical awareness I think he's doing fine, Chelsea would not trust one of their finest young players to his care and techniques if they thought he wasnt coaching the players correctly.
One last thing, I think Marco Cassetti is a superb signing for us, at 36 he provides an old head to marshal the defence, i know at his age he may have lost a bit of pace, but his experience counters this . On Tuesday he was like a beaded Italian assassin , you don't get to play for Italy if you are a poor defender!!!!!!!!
It reminds me when GT signed the leaden footed Pat Rice at RB for his 'old head' back in the 80s.

...but he was run raged and hauled off at halftime for some spurious injury to prevent further embarrassment. 36 is fine for a central player but not someone to mark a wideman.

stevyweavy wrote:

Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:

Travelling Hornet wrote:

gilesy97 wrote:
Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)

I think dedication to training is the one thing the new players can learn from our the English ones.
Sometimes in life you need a wake up call to take stock of what you have and might lose. Going to prison was Troy Deeneys. And should be a big lesson to others around him too!
As for Zolas tactical awareness I think he's doing fine, Chelsea would not trust one of their finest young players to his care and techniques if they thought he wasnt coaching the players correctly.
One last thing, I think Marco Cassetti is a superb signing for us, at 36 he provides an old head to marshal the defence, i know at his age he may have lost a bit of pace, but his experience counters this . On Tuesday he was like a beaded Italian assassin , you don't get to play for Italy if you are a poor defender!!!!!!!!
It reminds me when GT signed the leaden footed Pat Rice at RB for his 'old head' back in the 80s.

...but he was run raged and hauled off at halftime for some spurious injury to prevent further embarrassment. 36 is fine for a central player but not someone to mark a wideman.

You must have been watching some other game to me as Cassetti was not run ragged. Buckley beat him for raw pace once (and Buckley can beat most people for raw pace of any age between 18 upwards) but as soon Cassetti saw that he adapted his style to counter Buckleys pace and just put his body in between Buckley and the ball each time which stopped Buckley's runs. He also put in two world quality crosses from the right (wasted with Iwelumu as the target man) which we then lacked in the second half. He clearly did get injured and would be interested to see a replay of what exactly happened. He may have been knackered by half time and due to come off but he was certainly one of our best players in the first half.

Holly68 wrote:
Give Geijo a break ! I spoke to him Tuesday night, he was fit to play last Saturday then pulled his groin in training end of last week, he is very frustrated and desperate to play. He should be fit for home game in two weeks time I can tell you his attitude is first class and he is targeting 20 goals this season. He is not a physical beat em up heskey beast, he is quick, skilful, both footed and good in the air I think he gonna be very good

gilesy97 wrote:
Interesting that Deeney might feature , considering the "thoroughness" the present medical staff have with minor injuries/ fitness etc. But it shows the positve attitude of Deeney , and I'm sure he'll give 100% as always. He's not as skillfull as most , but will give his all. For me let Deeney partner Iwellumo as last year whilst the other forwards get over their fitness problems ,especially as Vydra seemed to spend a lot of time uneccessarily playing too deep ( managers orders I suspect), and on Tuesday , having to help out the "old boy" Cassetti whilst he got the run around from Buckley. Iwelumo needs someone along side him to flick the ball onto ...it worked second half v Bolton when Vydra had no option but to push up. If we start the games playing football positively ( as we do when we are behind especially ) we will hammer some sides. I'd like to see a settled team for a few games and not this "pre season" nonsense we're getting at the moment. I'm sure then , we'd click much faster . I'm not sure that Zola is tactically up to speed as yet ...but I supose that would be seen by some as a negative comment :)