Five loanees to miss Huddersfield trip (From Watford Observer)

The fitness of these guys particularly Geijo is a joke. A jailbird like Deeney is fit after 11 weeks in the slammer.

I agreed with everything in the Martin Samuel article. Weaving in 16 loan players is impossible especially for an average manager like Zola. These Udinese journeyman are not prepared to die for the yellow even if they were fit which they are not.

I would much rather have had last years team which finished 11th with 64 points and have Dyche back at the helm.

Hog out

hogweed - what is the point of that post - we are where we are - Yes the fitness levels of the newbies is poor but we have about a 1000 to chose from. It can't be helping that we can't bed in the same players into a tight group - but neither Dyche / 64 points or anything else about last year is ever coming back - time to stop grieving!

In Geijo's case - we are his last chance - out of contract in the summer and at 30 not financially secure for life with 2 or maybe 3 years at the top left - i would have thought that he has more to be motivated about than most

Geijo - Cardiff were looking at him and decided to leave well alone when they realised his time out through Injury

hogweed wrote:
The fitness of these guys particularly Geijo is a joke. A jailbird like Deeney is fit after 11 weeks in the slammer.

I agreed with everything in the Martin Samuel article. Weaving in 16 loan players is impossible especially for an average manager like Zola. These Udinese journeyman are not prepared to die for the yellow even if they were fit which they are not.

I would much rather have had last years team which finished 11th with 64 points and have Dyche back at the helm.

Hog out

If you have seen the passion of the new players when we have scored then you should not doubt them; they've been celebrating more than the previous team. Secondly, Dyche was always going to have to sell Taylor and Maps and there was no way we could have replaced them under the Pozzo's, that's even if we still had a club. I would much rather finish second in the Premiership but we can't keep looking into the past. Also Dyche's best players who are still at the club (Hogg, Deeney and Eustace) haven't featured for various reasons so with our current injury predicament it is lucky we have lots of loanees. If you feel you do not love the club anymore you should not come; we will miss you because there are not many Watford fans left. But if that's what you decide, you are about to miss the most tense and exciting period of our history for better or for worse. Forza Watford and up the 'orns!

Our side will be better come the next few weeks and other then one poor performance we have compeated well.
Players like Vydra, Pudil, Abdi are quality and I'm sure Neuton, Cassetti, Ekstrand and co will prove there worth!
Geijo has a point to prove and when fit will feature and score loads! There is still nearly 40 league games left so I'm not at all worried!
This point last year Reading were in the same position and look what happened!
With the return of Deeney who also has a point to prove whilst trying to redeem himself things look good!

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
Geijo - Cardiff were looking at him and decided to leave well alone when they realised his time out through Injury

No you are mistaken, they only buy players once they've played for us first!

Have to say tho that the fitness levels and injury proneness of our now not so new arrivals is slightly beginning to concern and perplex me. Really wish that GZ could say summat to to reassure concerned fans on this vexing subject. Surely he must be very surprised too?

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
Geijo - Cardiff were looking at him and decided to leave well alone when they realised his time out through Injury

LMFAO The ex-Watford Cardiff contingent still posting on our website !

Cardiff look at Geijo LOL

Tommy Smith lives in Berko right near McPie and signs, do does other ex-Watford players, and Bellamy.

So much for Cardiff's European scouting network LOL

How many rumours can ex members of staff start this week ???????

Roll on next year, bring out your dead !!!

When you have a skeleton squad, you throw players in when they are not 100% as they have no choice.

When you have lots of players, you can be over-cautious

In this league it's all about HOW YOU FINISH !

hogweed wrote:
The fitness of these guys particularly Geijo is a joke. A jailbird like Deeney is fit after 11 weeks in the slammer.

I agreed with everything in the Martin Samuel article. Weaving in 16 loan players is impossible especially for an average manager like Zola. These Udinese journeyman are not prepared to die for the yellow even if they were fit which they are not.

I would much rather have had last years team which finished 11th with 64 points and have Dyche back at the helm.

Hog out

God how many players I've seen die for the hornets! What a dippy comment.
I assume that you want ultra loyalty from players, you'll be present Saturday at Huddersfield? No thought not, fair weather fan with a half formed brain..Hog out? Yes please...cold would be nice

Holly68 wrote:
When you have a skeleton squad, you throw players in when they are not 100% as they have no choice.

When you have lots of players, you can be over-cautious

In this league it's all about HOW YOU FINISH !

Exactly

SAHornet wrote:
Have to say tho that the fitness levels and injury proneness of our now not so new arrivals is slightly beginning to concern and perplex me. Really wish that GZ could say summat to to reassure concerned fans on this vexing subject. Surely he must be very surprised too?

Fear not dear Bokke
Holly has answered this above. Zola is being cautious because he has a squad to do so.
If you could see the style he's imposing you'd be reassured.
I think you may find Zola talks through the official site and not the WO. Could be a strained relationship?
Tell you what Vydra runs for 90 minutes and has as much passion I've seen anyone in a yellow shirt, ever.

Travelling Hornet wrote:

Goldenboy1960 wrote:
Geijo - Cardiff were looking at him and decided to leave well alone when they realised his time out through Injury

No you are mistaken, they only buy players once they've played for us first!

funny, well done.

shame they didn't poach the Duke.

smeg wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

miked2006 wrote:

hogweed wrote:
The fitness of these guys particularly Geijo is a joke. A jailbird like Deeney is fit after 11 weeks in the slammer.

I agreed with everything in the Martin Samuel article. Weaving in 16 loan players is impossible especially for an average manager like Zola. These Udinese journeyman are not prepared to die for the yellow even if they were fit which they are not.

I would much rather have had last years team which finished 11th with 64 points and have Dyche back at the helm.

Hog out

If you have seen the passion of the new players when we have scored then you should not doubt them; they've been celebrating more than the previous team. Secondly, Dyche was always going to have to sell Taylor and Maps and there was no way we could have replaced them under the Pozzo's, that's even if we still had a club. I would much rather finish second in the Premiership but we can't keep looking into the past. Also Dyche's best players who are still at the club (Hogg, Deeney and Eustace) haven't featured for various reasons so with our current injury predicament it is lucky we have lots of loanees. If you feel you do not love the club anymore you should not come; we will miss you because there are not many Watford fans left. But if that's what you decide, you are about to miss the most tense and exciting period of our history for better or for worse. Forza Watford and up the 'orns!

Hogprick heres a question for you to answer... which you cant as it appers you dont go to games... How many of last years players got there kids at the end of a match and brought them onto the pitch infront of the Rookery and introduced them to the fans like Daniel Pudil and Matej Vydra did after Bristol City?? Long after the remainder of last years squad had jacked and gone down the tunul... Vydra and Pudil are more than passionate about our fine club.

Oh well, if they brought their children on to the pitch we have nothing to worry about.

I rarely agree with Hog, but it amuses me nobody seems to be able to counter what he says without getting abusive. Sign of a weak argument me thinks.

I answered his points and I was not at all aggressive. In fact, I said we would miss his or anyone else who didn't want to support us any more. Probably the least hostile response possible. The points he makes are valid, but pessimistic. Firstly the players we have are passionate and have significant quality. Secondly we need patience. I hate to even talk about Judas Rodgers, but look at where Liverpool are in the league. They have decent quality players but the implementation of a new playing style is going to take time. But when it comes together after the New Year we will beat most teams in our division.

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Hogweed what planet are u on?

So u rather not have the additions ay? This means we would have a weaker squad... Basically an injured player is worse then no player? No don't think so!

The Udinese players aren't commited? Well the players you moan about each week aren't these players! Fact

You rather have Dyce and no Pozzo investment? Well bring back Bassini and bankruptcy!

Martin Samuel!!! What the fcuk does he know about our club? Nothing!

You really are a plonker!

Somewhere down the line the Pozzos will put the salary bill in WFC's books, and paying players in sick bay is not good budgeting.

No free lunch.

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Our side will be better come the next few weeks and other then one poor performance we have compeated well.
Players like Vydra, Pudil, Abdi are quality and I'm sure Neuton, Cassetti, Ekstrand and co will prove there worth!
Geijo has a point to prove and when fit will feature and score loads! There is still nearly 40 league games left so I'm not at all worried!
This point last year Reading were in the same position and look what happened!
With the return of Deeney who also has a point to prove whilst trying to redeem himself things look good!

With Reading the money man came in January. Our "money man" has so far reversed the miracle - turned wine in to water.

Also I personally do not doubt Zola. He finished mid-table with West Ham and only suffered when the Icelandic owner went bankcrupt and started to sell the players he was building the team around. Despite the obvious gulf in quality, he is still trying to change the squad slowly and is bringing them together by giving them a deadline to speak English so cliques do not form. The football has been getting better and better and the defending will improve once we actually get a consistant match fit back four. Plus you're forgetting Chalaboah will win us matches on his own if he stays in the holding role and improves his fitness. Then we have our clinical striker who is being slowly nursed back to health. Up the orns.

lutondown wrote:

gloryhornet4 wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Hogweed what planet are u on?

So u rather not have the additions ay? This means we would have a weaker squad... Basically an injured player is worse then no player? No don't think so!

The Udinese players aren't commited? Well the players you moan about each week aren't these players! Fact

You rather have Dyce and no Pozzo investment? Well bring back Bassini and bankruptcy!

Martin Samuel!!! What the fcuk does he know about our club? Nothing!

You really are a plonker!

Somewhere down the line the Pozzos will put the salary bill in WFC's books, and paying players in sick bay is not good budgeting.

No free lunch.

Ah gorywasp, I think the Pozzos will take out when there model is up and running. We are in the prem, making money, playing football and not a hybrid called rugball.
You, by then will hopefully be fifteen miles due north and changed your name to pooryhatter

Expensive Rugball too with NellytheEllington up front!

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
Have to say tho that the fitness levels and injury proneness of our now not so new arrivals is slightly beginning to concern and perplex me. Really wish that GZ could say summat to to reassure concerned fans on this vexing subject. Surely he must be very surprised too?

Fear not dear Bokke
Holly has answered this above. Zola is being cautious because he has a squad to do so.
If you could see the style he's imposing you'd be reassured.
I think you may find Zola talks through the official site and not the WO. Could be a strained relationship?
Tell you what Vydra runs for 90 minutes and has as much passion I've seen anyone in a yellow shirt, ever.

When I run in my yellow shirt, my tits wobble, May have one (or two) too many Castles tonight. Who's hogweed? Don't like him much !

By the way, who's this Lol? I've seen many references to him in peeps posts by I've never seen him actually post.

Hogg is entitled to his opinion, i will ignore some of his comments like wise with the Ignorant Journalist who wrote in the Daily Mail and who has done little research only what he has seen from the outside. Why doesn't he get an exclusive for the Mail with an interview with the Pozzo's?....I doubt it.
Watford do not deserve to be at the top of the league no matter what system, what players they have, who is bank rolling them.We have to earn to be at the top by winning matches this will take time.
It will take about 13 games before we can get an idea of how we are going to perform this season. Then I will hold back any judgement till then. However, we will have to mix up the style in this league otherwise we will see more 5-1 defeats.
There is always one club that is in the bottom half that gets into the play-offs.
Udinese have a very large squad and it is not any wonder that they are not fit if half of them have not been playing in the Italian team. At lease seeing them now will give Zola which ones he wishes to keep or send back either in Jan or at the end of the season.
In the past we have been so use to the Accademy players being used, but were not up to scratch and performing consistently. Remember league rules state 10 of the 18 match day squad have to be from the British League system, hence we will always need Accademy players and players from other UK clubs
So those doubters keep the faith, i rather have 10,000 committed hard core fans than say another 5,000 fans of moaners or windbags. If you don't like what you see b*gger off to L*ton.
Anyway here is to hoping for three points on Saturday.
COYHSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Just took the dogs for their last walk and fell over thrice. They thought it was funny. Just thought you'd be interested. Gonna wake up tomoz with a moerse headache.

lutondown wrote:

smeg wrote:

lutondown wrote:

smeg wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

smeg wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

miked2006 wrote:

hogweed wrote:
The fitness of these guys particularly Geijo is a joke. A jailbird like Deeney is fit after 11 weeks in the slammer.

I agreed with everything in the Martin Samuel article. Weaving in 16 loan players is impossible especially for an average manager like Zola. These Udinese journeyman are not prepared to die for the yellow even if they were fit which they are not.

I would much rather have had last years team which finished 11th with 64 points and have Dyche back at the helm.

Hog out

If you have seen the passion of the new players when we have scored then you should not doubt them; they've been celebrating more than the previous team. Secondly, Dyche was always going to have to sell Taylor and Maps and there was no way we could have replaced them under the Pozzo's, that's even if we still had a club. I would much rather finish second in the Premiership but we can't keep looking into the past. Also Dyche's best players who are still at the club (Hogg, Deeney and Eustace) haven't featured for various reasons so with our current injury predicament it is lucky we have lots of loanees. If you feel you do not love the club anymore you should not come; we will miss you because there are not many Watford fans left. But if that's what you decide, you are about to miss the most tense and exciting period of our history for better or for worse. Forza Watford and up the 'orns!

Hogprick heres a question for you to answer... which you cant as it appers you dont go to games... How many of last years players got there kids at the end of a match and brought them onto the pitch infront of the Rookery and introduced them to the fans like Daniel Pudil and Matej Vydra did after Bristol City?? Long after the remainder of last years squad had jacked and gone down the tunul... Vydra and Pudil are more than passionate about our fine club.

Oh well, if they brought their children on to the pitch we have nothing to worry about.

I rarely agree with Hog, but it amuses me nobody seems to be able to counter what he says without getting abusive. Sign of a weak argument me thinks.

? its a sign that they want to be here and want to be part of us!! and no one is anserin his points because they are divvy coments!

When you say no one, you mean you. Please don't presume to know what everybody else wants. And on the contrary, many people are answering him which is probably what he wants. If it bothers you ignore it, or if you have the wit to argue with him like a grown up, give that a go.

Ah Smeg, that fine make of fridge, frozen into our glorious past of high kicking, sore necks and hoofball.
This is going to work, we are financially secure, we have a future, you on the other hand like all old appliances have had your day..I've pulled the plug in you

Wit instead of abuse, you're growing on me sunshine. But you still are jumping to the wrong conclusions. I don't hark back to long ball, I'm just concerned that relegation is at the moment not beyond the realms of possibility. If Neuton learns how to defend/remembers he is allowed to jump or is replaced I'm sure we will be fine. And who knows, maybe a promotion push next season. Not convinced Zola it cut out for management though. We'll all find out sooner or later.

No I quite enjoy our exchanges and understand that the same time and patience extended to Dyche and Bas is not being afforded to our new owners and coach.
Did you only see Neuton miss a jump? I assume you also saw his defence splitting pass?
I think this team needs time, and when it comes together it will be good.
BTW do you come in Red?

No problem with defence splitting passes, but he is primarily a defender and as yet, not a very good one in this league. Come in red? Do you mean shirt at games? No, I rarely wear colours, that's a young man's game.

I've been away to watch a film and now I can't be @rsed to read and reply to all the comments. Skim reading though, it seems the fella I was talking to called me an idiot! Guess I won that one then.

And for the record, no I didn't see much wit, not much punctuation either. While this is not an English test, if you are going write a huge rant, at least make it easy to read. Some decent points and some not so much.

Respect to everyone who can keep civil, even if some do put words in my mouth and read between lines.

He's at it again.
http://thegamesgonec
razy.blogspot.co.uk/
2012/09/zolas-watfor
d-sinking-fast.html

How will you Zola lovers feel when we lose at Huddersfield on Saturday.They are bang on form after their staggering 3-1 win at Blackpool and are exactly what is needed in the championship - organised,solid defensively and 100% committed a bit like us last season under Dyche.Unfortunately,
Zola does not know his a*se from his elbow when it comes to the championship and defending.Sorry.

I think it will take time for the whole squad to be fit and available for selection. The new guys are all so much better than what we have at the moment.
Remember not so long ago seeing deeney play right wing as we had no cover?

Fortunately those dark days are behind us. When you drive a car fast you don't look at the road ahead, you look at the road on the horizon.

That's what we need to do, not look at the present, but look to the end of the season, we got a long way to go and things will get better...patience people

smeg wrote:

lutondown wrote:

smeg wrote:

lutondown wrote:

smeg wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

smeg wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

miked2006 wrote:

hogweed wrote:
The fitness of these guys particularly Geijo is a joke. A jailbird like Deeney is fit after 11 weeks in the slammer.

I agreed with everything in the Martin Samuel article. Weaving in 16 loan players is impossible especially for an average manager like Zola. These Udinese journeyman are not prepared to die for the yellow even if they were fit which they are not.

I would much rather have had last years team which finished 11th with 64 points and have Dyche back at the helm.

Hog out

If you have seen the passion of the new players when we have scored then you should not doubt them; they've been celebrating more than the previous team. Secondly, Dyche was always going to have to sell Taylor and Maps and there was no way we could have replaced them under the Pozzo's, that's even if we still had a club. I would much rather finish second in the Premiership but we can't keep looking into the past. Also Dyche's best players who are still at the club (Hogg, Deeney and Eustace) haven't featured for various reasons so with our current injury predicament it is lucky we have lots of loanees. If you feel you do not love the club anymore you should not come; we will miss you because there are not many Watford fans left. But if that's what you decide, you are about to miss the most tense and exciting period of our history for better or for worse. Forza Watford and up the 'orns!

Hogprick heres a question for you to answer... which you cant as it appers you dont go to games... How many of last years players got there kids at the end of a match and brought them onto the pitch infront of the Rookery and introduced them to the fans like Daniel Pudil and Matej Vydra did after Bristol City?? Long after the remainder of last years squad had jacked and gone down the tunul... Vydra and Pudil are more than passionate about our fine club.

Oh well, if they brought their children on to the pitch we have nothing to worry about.

I rarely agree with Hog, but it amuses me nobody seems to be able to counter what he says without getting abusive. Sign of a weak argument me thinks.

? its a sign that they want to be here and want to be part of us!! and no one is anserin his points because they are divvy coments!

When you say no one, you mean you. Please don't presume to know what everybody else wants. And on the contrary, many people are answering him which is probably what he wants. If it bothers you ignore it, or if you have the wit to argue with him like a grown up, give that a go.

Ah Smeg, that fine make of fridge, frozen into our glorious past of high kicking, sore necks and hoofball.
This is going to work, we are financially secure, we have a future, you on the other hand like all old appliances have had your day..I've pulled the plug in you

Wit instead of abuse, you're growing on me sunshine. But you still are jumping to the wrong conclusions. I don't hark back to long ball, I'm just concerned that relegation is at the moment not beyond the realms of possibility. If Neuton learns how to defend/remembers he is allowed to jump or is replaced I'm sure we will be fine. And who knows, maybe a promotion push next season. Not convinced Zola it cut out for management though. We'll all find out sooner or later.

No I quite enjoy our exchanges and understand that the same time and patience extended to Dyche and Bas is not being afforded to our new owners and coach.
Did you only see Neuton miss a jump? I assume you also saw his defence splitting pass?
I think this team needs time, and when it comes together it will be good.
BTW do you come in Red?

No problem with defence splitting passes, but he is primarily a defender and as yet, not a very good one in this league. Come in red? Do you mean shirt at games? No, I rarely wear colours, that's a young man's game.

Ah Smeg the fridge! No I meant do you come in other colours other than white..get it?

smarkymark wrote:
How will you Zola lovers feel when we lose at Huddersfield on Saturday.They are bang on form after their staggering 3-1 win at Blackpool and are exactly what is needed in the championship - organised,solid defensively and 100% committed a bit like us last season under Dyche.Unfortunately,

Zola does not know his a*se from his elbow when it comes to the championship and defending.Sorry.

Well whatever the score some of us will be there supporting, not like some fair weathers on here.

SAHornet wrote:
By the way, who's this Lol? I've seen many references to him in peeps posts by I've never seen him actually post.

If your serious, and as you've been in the dense African forest for a while,suspect you could be! Lol is an acronym or Abbreviation for laughing out loud.
An aberration of our language I know, but time moves on buddy.
Hope your hangovers not too bad!

Personally, I think Martin Samuel's account in the Daily Mail is well written and demonstrates a good knowledge.

If you haven't read it then here's a link:

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/article
-2208564/Watford-sna
pshot-thats-wrong-mo
dern-football-Martin
-Samuel.html

GloryHornet you are just a muppet! WFC is a club that's going to ruin because it pays its players whilst there injured?.... What planet you on?... Every club pays there contracted players whilst there injured!
I assume you are moaning about the injured loan players? Yes LOAN

GloryHornet you are just a muppet! WFC is a club that's going to ruin because it pays its players whilst there injured?.... What planet you on?... Every club pays there contracted players whilst there injured!
I assume you are moaning about the injured loan players? Yes LOAN players!... Players who can be sent back!... Players who we only contribute a small percentage of there wage!
Tell you what Mr GloryHorn just get your satchel and go to school!
You clearly have no u understanding of anything and need to learn more!

There are so many negative idiots on this site! Mostly not genuine Watford supporters, how can such idiots have such stupid thoughts when we are only 8/9 games into a 50 odd game season!

Yes, the fitness problem with so many players is a worry but let's not panic. Remember after 15 games last season we'd only got 11 points, we've currently got 7 points from 7 games so let's see where we are after 15 games and re-evaluate things then. There's still lots of time to turn it around. However this sort of thing has never been tried in this country before so the Jury is still out so it could all turn out brilliantly, be a complete disaster or more likely end up somewhere between the two!!

Regarding Huddersfield: all three of their goals at Blackpool looked like the Watford of old; two set pieces and one long hoof - all of which were badly defended by a Blackpool side committed to on the ground football. This is worrying for Saturday given our recent defending, but I would still rather be patient and go the Blackpool/Zola route toward decent, quality football than revert to hoofball.

Well buddy you haven't read it properly have you? It's fraught with mistakes the main one being Young came through The academy, he never did. He also decried the loanees foreign nationalities, Chabolah being one, who despite his non Anglo Saxon name is English and represents England.
Also conspicuous by its absence is no mention of his fellow frat man Bas, a big omission from our recent history.
Samuel, is a self appointed jerk who lives Man City and all their foreign players, but clearly thinks little Watford should stay in their lower league box where we belong.
What more could you expect from a bitter Iron?
So matey, in a nutshell the report was sensationalist, and factually incorrect as well as being a tinge xenophobic.

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
By the way, who's this Lol? I've seen many references to him in peeps posts by I've never seen him actually post.

If your serious, and as you've been in the dense African forest for a while,suspect you could be! Lol is an acronym or Abbreviation for laughing out loud.
An aberration of our language I know, but time moves on buddy.
Hope your hangovers not too bad!

LD, really ! I was a bit the worse for Castle, it's true but certainly gotcha a good-un there. Of course everyone knows it's abbr. for "love our LD"

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

gloryhornet4 wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Hogweed what planet are u on?

So u rather not have the additions ay? This means we would have a weaker squad... Basically an injured player is worse then no player? No don't think so!

The Udinese players aren't commited? Well the players you moan about each week aren't these players! Fact

You rather have Dyce and no Pozzo investment? Well bring back Bassini and bankruptcy!

Martin Samuel!!! What the fcuk does he know about our club? Nothing!

You really are a plonker!

Somewhere down the line the Pozzos will put the salary bill in WFC's books, and paying players in sick bay is not good budgeting.

No free lunch.

Ah gorywasp, I think the Pozzos will take out when there model is up and running. We are in the prem, making money, playing football and not a hybrid called rugball.
You, by then will hopefully be fifteen miles due north and changed your name to pooryhatter

Expensive Rugball too with NellytheEllington up front!

L/down - In the time I have been reading your comments that only you think are witty I have been living in Malta and Southampton.

I can't stand L*t*n as they have no respect for other teams or their supporters- so please try some other wind up - but an intelligent one please.

Isee my essay was removed...

Ah i also see im not banned.. Someone on here is a grass... yuk. i dont know why my essay was removed as every single point in it was well constructed and factually correct.

I read the Samuels article and my initial thought was that he knew very little about WFC and where we were heading under the previous ownership. So thanks to the Pozzos' we are now a club not threatened with administration and the penalties financial or demotion or points deduction that go with it. On the other hand I do think the loan system does need to be looked at again. Yes it is the same for all clubs to take advantage of or not as they see fit, but maybe it is too open ended. Another rule that I consider could be looked at is making substitutions from the bench with a few minutes to go, or even in injury time, so as to waste time. Maybe no subs after 75 minutes. At least that would give the oncoming player some playing time. An exception could be made if a player is seriously injured and carried off on a stretcher never to return. Just a thought.

I want to see Chris Bottom's essay

Each player has a registration that is unique to him. When a transfer is made the registration has to be re-registered to the new club. Very similar to a V5 car log book.

If the Pozzo's have been smart they will have put all the shares of the 3 clubs into one company ie. Pozzo Limited. If they have done this there is no distinction between the 3 clubs ownership as they are all owned by the one company.

If this is the case then when a player moves he does not need to be re-registered as the is simply movijng from one branch of the company to another and no registration has traded hands. By doing it this way you can have as many players moving between the 3 branches as the player registration is always maintained within the same company.

Therefore you can have as many players as you want. There cannot be a change in the rules to prevent this happening as a football club is a business just like say Tesco.

It is no diferent than working for Tesco in Watford High Street and then been moved to work in Tesco Reading. Tesco maintain your employment but move you in house. This is no different to any other business in the world.

Therefore if you stop Us, Udinese and Granada doing it, you have to apply this same rule to every company in the world. I.e making you sign a new contract with Tesco every time you moved branch. This is simply not do-able.

If the club shares arnt like this, surly this is the way to go.. I think im right with what im saying but asi havent owned a business for the last 3 years rules may have changed allthough i dont see why we cant do this.

LD look iv learnt paragrapghs lol! Had to look it up on wikipedia though so i might have got it wrong.. Dont forget to call me if you want breakfast before usloyal fans head up north tomo!

Bush Hornet wrote:
I want to see Chris Bottom's essay

It was good! Rambling but good!

gloryhornet4 wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

gloryhornet4 wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Hogweed what planet are u on?

So u rather not have the additions ay? This means we would have a weaker squad... Basically an injured player is worse then no player? No don't think so!

The Udinese players aren't commited? Well the players you moan about each week aren't these players! Fact

You rather have Dyce and no Pozzo investment? Well bring back Bassini and bankruptcy!

Martin Samuel!!! What the fcuk does he know about our club? Nothing!

You really are a plonker!

Somewhere down the line the Pozzos will put the salary bill in WFC's books, and paying players in sick bay is not good budgeting.

No free lunch.

Ah gorywasp, I think the Pozzos will take out when there model is up and running. We are in the prem, making money, playing football and not a hybrid called rugball.
You, by then will hopefully be fifteen miles due north and changed your name to pooryhatter

Expensive Rugball too with NellytheEllington up front!

L/down - In the time I have been reading your comments that only you think are witty I have been living in Malta and Southampton.

I can't stand L*t*n as they have no respect for other teams or their supporters- so please try some other wind up - but an intelligent one please.

Well the last person I'd try and attempt to humour is you, and your whereabouts has no bearing on anything.
So as per usual your comments are pointless and you can't reason with a scummer lover can you?

gloryhornet4 wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

gloryhornet4 wrote:

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Hogweed what planet are u on?

So u rather not have the additions ay? This means we would have a weaker squad... Basically an injured player is worse then no player? No don't think so!

The Udinese players aren't commited? Well the players you moan about each week aren't these players! Fact

You rather have Dyce and no Pozzo investment? Well bring back Bassini and bankruptcy!

Martin Samuel!!! What the fcuk does he know about our club? Nothing!

You really are a plonker!

Somewhere down the line the Pozzos will put the salary bill in WFC's books, and paying players in sick bay is not good budgeting.

No free lunch.

Ah gorywasp, I think the Pozzos will take out when there model is up and running. We are in the prem, making money, playing football and not a hybrid called rugball.
You, by then will hopefully be fifteen miles due north and changed your name to pooryhatter

Expensive Rugball too with NellytheEllington up front!

L/down - In the time I have been reading your comments that only you think are witty I have been living in Malta and Southampton.

I can't stand L*t*n as they have no respect for other teams or their supporters- so please try some other wind up - but an intelligent one please.

Well the last person I'd try and attempt to humour is you, and your whereabouts has no bearing on anything.
So as per usual your comments are pointless and you can't reason with a scummer lover can you?

Bush Hornet wrote:
I want to see Chris Bottom's essay

Its been deleted into cyber space because someone on here is a grass lol

lutondown wrote:

Bush Hornet wrote:
I want to see Chris Bottom's essay

It was good! Rambling but good!

Iv learnt paragraphs for my new essay lol

The BestTrip2011 wrote:
Personally, I think Martin Samuel's account in the Daily Mail is well written and demonstrates a good knowledge.

If you haven't read it then here's a link:

http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/article

-2208564/Watford-sna

pshot-thats-wrong-mo

dern-football-Martin

-Samuel.html

I think it demonstrates a poor understanding of the position we were in. To take such an aggressive view the success or failure of the pozzo regime based on 7 games is frankly shallow.

He should turn his sights on a premier league which is hopelessly unbalanced and devoid of home grown talent.

We are where we are...I hope that the loanees
make a bigger impact than at present, I hope that Zola and Nani try to improve the team and that we at least survive in this decision.
Currently we have been extremely disappointing and most changes have not improved us however now we need to get behind the team, and trust in Zola.
Whether Sean and Tiny should have gone, whether the Udinese set up is far less professional than we were told, it is all academic.
The one thing I won't forgive is if the team does not try and at the moment I believe they are doing their best and as such deserve our backing.