Should Watford condemn the Troy Deeney chants that were made last night?

Picture: Holly Cant Picture: Holly Cant

Some Hornets supporters have been in touch with the Watford Observer this morning to complain about chants made by a small minority of fans last night in relation to Troy Deeney.

A section of supporters at the Valley could be heard chanting 'He will stamp on your face, that boy Troy Deeney, he'll stamp on your face' and a similar song which starts with 'He hates the Police'.

Deeney was recently released from prison after serving two-and-a-half months of a ten-month sentence for affray following a fight outside a nightclub, where the striker was filmed punching one student and then kicking him on the ground before punching another.

The Hornets striker apologised to the victim, the club and its supporters and has been superb during his three appearances since his return; helping the club end their five-match winless run with back-to-back victories.

But several supporters have contacted our newspaper this morning to express their disgust at the behaviour of a small minority of fans last night and many believe the club should condemn the chants.

Comments(84)

Hornet Cornet says...
12:12pm Wed 3 Oct 12

No point condemning it as it'll only spur even more 'supporters' to do the same. Let it lie and it'll fade away. I feel some poetic magnificence brewing in the bowels of my literary turbine.

WanderingDynamo says...
12:19pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Maybe Deeney himself can issue a statement via the club condemning the chants?

mooneysmagic says...
12:20pm Wed 3 Oct 12

As long as the chants are not racist there is nothing the club can do. I am sure Deeney is not too bothered about them.

DuffmanWFC says...
12:30pm Wed 3 Oct 12

If it isn't swearing or racial then the club can't do anything! Deeney has nothing else to appologise for!
Just like the days of Marlon King when we used to chant "Marlon Says" ect ect! It'll pass as it always does! Just moaning about it means more will sing it!
Great result last night.... Come on you orns!

Wisey93 says...
12:30pm Wed 3 Oct 12

I do believe the club should issue a statement. Although I agree that the inevitable "don't do it" request will spur more people to do it, I think it will show, even more so, that the club are fully behind his rehabilitation. I'm not foolish enough to believe that chants alone will stall his progress but the first chant mentioned here is rather OTT and doesn't exactly bring a good image to the club.

McHornet says...
12:33pm Wed 3 Oct 12

It's a shame that after such a great win the only two things the WO want to report on are Forestieri - Dive or Slip? and a band of Fans singing ill taste Songs!

Basque in the glory of 2 wins on the trot!

Does anyone know any websites where i can see the goals?

Watfordwes says...
12:34pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Admire his work rate and commitment but do not glorify what he did.

Surely as fans we are better educated than that?

'Hates the police' I can just about accept

But

'Kicks who he wants' is moronic and sick

Deeney or the club should make a statement, but during the Bristol city game it was just the young kids in the back right who will probably like the publicity

Bringe says...
12:41pm Wed 3 Oct 12

mooneysmagic wrote:
As long as the chants are not racist there is nothing the club can do. I am sure Deeney is not too bothered about them.
I think you'll find the club can do plenty including lengthy bans for such antisocial behavior.
Just tone it down, it is not the funny joke some seem to think it is ... just moronic.

DuffmanWFC says...
12:46pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Yeah it may be the little kids who sing this song but if more people got behind the side vocally then they will follow our stance!
I'm 37 and been following this club since I was 6! When I was 18 it was me and my mates singing till we couldn't speak anymore just to get some atmosphere going! Some people joined in but most didn't but instead gave us dirty looks like we shouldn't be singing!!
These kids need leading and we all have a responsibility to improve the atmosphere! Not just 500 people from a home game of over 12,000!!

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...
1:07pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Watfordwes wrote:
Admire his work rate and commitment but do not glorify what he did. Surely as fans we are better educated than that? 'Hates the police' I can just about accept But 'Kicks who he wants' is moronic and sick Deeney or the club should make a statement, but during the Bristol city game it was just the young kids in the back right who will probably like the publicity
I totally agree with the sentiment here. Yep, we should be better than that. It may seem funny to a few lads, but maybe most of them feel a bit uncomfortable singing it?
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However, I remember singing some stupid things when I was younger (completey idiotic when I look back). It was just the pack mentality coming the fore - and yet I am well educated and completely rational (most of the time in any case).
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Hopefully this will pass as others have suggested.

bushey tales says...
1:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12

They're puerile, pathetic, not funny, embarrassing and almost certainly exactly what Deeney doesn't want to hear if he is genuinely attempting to rehabilitate himself.Think about it - it's just not helpful. I felt that last night there were as many people trying to get them to stop singing as there were actually indulging in it. Not big, not clever, not funny and not helpful.

jasonwatford says...
1:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The club can ask of course they can...i see nothing wrong in the he hates the police chant as it is what it is however i was there last night and he will stap on your face is out of order and is only the few idiots that sung it a few times and im sure most only did it as they were standing next to their mates.

bushey tales says...
1:28pm Wed 3 Oct 12

And as for McHornet.......'Basq
ue in the glory of 2 wins on the trot'.......is there something you'd like to tell us about your bedroom habits?

Play-Off Pete says...
1:42pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Sad as it is in this age of "social media" awareness it seems anyone can now say / chant / tweet whatever they want.

Although we and the club can condemn it on several levels, such rationale will be lost on the "We can say what we want!" brigade.

I suppose we could always refuse to shake hands with them ...

mooneysmagic says...
1:51pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Bringe wrote:
mooneysmagic wrote:
As long as the chants are not racist there is nothing the club can do. I am sure Deeney is not too bothered about them.
I think you'll find the club can do plenty including lengthy bans for such antisocial behavior.
Just tone it down, it is not the funny joke some seem to think it is ... just moronic.
Will be very difficult and time consuming in getting the necessary proof to ban the idiots singing these songs. If you do try to take action then the club have got to be consistent and follow up on other equally tasteless chants including those aimed at opposition players.

Huntjb says...
1:55pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The club should certainly try to discourage such inane and offensive chanting. It is also time to clamp down on the puerile Luton abuse which has never gone away - unlike Luton!!!!!!

Hornet1970 says...
1:58pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Just ignore, it'll pass.
WO should support the positive aspects more..

Deeney has been superb and has made a massive difference

Up the hornets

Holly68 says...
2:27pm Wed 3 Oct 12

I was in the upper tier last night, it was sung by a minority group of teenagers during the game and walking back to the station.

These were the same teenagers who also created a great atmosphere (along with others) last night, a truly memorable night.

When I heard "hates the police" I thought a bit childish, when I heard "stamps on your face" I thought risquee and OTT.

These are just young lads who need a little bit of guidance, probably had a couple of shandys before the game and were hyped up by the occassion.

A quite word with them will solve this and it will blow away, probably by older respected fans ....

It was very minor, let's focus on positives

luther67 says...
2:29pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The 'stamp on your face' chant is embarrassing, and doesn't reflect particularly well on the fans, the club or Deeney who, you would imagine, would rather put this sorry episode behind him.

Clamp down on the anti-Luton chants though? Now that would just be silly.

lutondown says...
2:35pm Wed 3 Oct 12

God have people not got better things to do than go running to Mummy Wobby! What can the press do FFS?
I would rather focus on the impact Troy has made on his return, his tireless running and commitment.
That boy Deeney, he's one of us
Our fans were brilliant from start to end, report that instead

ChrisG85 says...
2:59pm Wed 3 Oct 12

People complaining about people complaining....was only a matter of time. Already been mentions of the impact TD has made since his return, positive talk of performances over the last couple of weeks but this and Forestieri's theatrics are still talking points. The people moaning about people moaning are the same people that whined last season when people were looking at positives from games calling them "clappers" It is all a bit petty really. It seems to me that people can't have their own view unless it is remotely close to theirs. It's quite laughable.

On the subject of the chants, yes, the club should say something. They kept TD on the books to assist his rehabilitation. Continued chanting/praising/su
ggestion he'll "stamp on your face" isn't the way forward. Unless of course you're under the impression that it makes you an "'ard man" who likes to spout off on the internet. Keep up the good work guys, those knuckles of yours will stop dragging on the ground soon enough.

a1derek says...
3:09pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bushey tales wrote:
And as for McHornet.......'Basq

ue in the glory of 2 wins on the trot'.......is there something you'd like to tell us about your bedroom habits?
Beat me to it...obviously a Rocky Horror fan!

mark_123 says...
3:09pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Keep the songs going it’s a laugh nothing more! Only chance we have of making an atmosphere! 11-12,000 fans and only 1000 sing if we are lucky.. THAT BOY TROY DEENEY….

HertsPeter says...
3:26pm Wed 3 Oct 12

For crying out loud it's football. Get on with it. As for Deeney himself, should always, always consider himself very lucky to still be employed by WFC, and furthermore I suggest what is being chanted at him is a bit inconsequential compared to what he did to his victim!

mkhornet says...
3:33pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Just tell the children that chant it to behave themselves!

Dunderdale Pinner says...
3:38pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Yes we do need atmosphere, but we do not need truly offensive or racist chanting. I suggest if anything untoward is chanted on Saturday then the stewards or as a last resort the police step in to halt it. There are enough of them standing around.

HertsPeter says...
3:46pm Wed 3 Oct 12

What rubbish! Offensive chanting is part and parcel of football support - I personally don't chant myself but I accept I will not agree with everything that gets shouted out at a game - in common with in a pub, at a shop, at work, on the telly, in the newspaper.... etc....

Only 2 Ross Jenkins says...
3:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12

We should respect the fact that someone had their head kicked in, in a nasty attack which was probably quite a horrible experience for them. We can respect that fact by not chanting about it like it is some great achievement. Common sense surely?

rogeruk says...
3:53pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The club or Troy should say and do nothing. Both he and the club are bigger than some morons that afflict some elements of society in England.

Troy can do his talking on the pitch.

He made a bad mistake which he will regret for all his life, however, everybody should be allowed a second chance. He will be a much better person for it.

In some ways it is a backhanded compliment. It's because Troy and his club did so well these fans can't criticize him for his football, therefore being low IQ idiots they resort to the lowest of base instincts!

Some people say to respond to an insult is to give the insult credibility. I think they are right, always better to be the bigger man!

bushey tales says...
3:53pm Wed 3 Oct 12

I wonder if mark_123 has ever wondered why 'only 1000 sing if we're lucky' these days? More like 200 at hme games, sadly. Could it be that those who were (and still are) entirely prepared to join in with a rousing chorus of 'Yellow Army' or whatever, will not sing about Deeney stamping on people's faces. Or about Johnny Eustace shagging their wife. Or whatever. The atmosphere in the Rookery got appreciably worse, and the crowd quieter, when the club-endorsed kids took up residence in the corner at the back. Take the lead by all means, but keep it cleanish (L*t*n chants excepted) and the noise level will rise again.

lutondown says...
3:55pm Wed 3 Oct 12

ChrisG85 wrote:
People complaining about people complaining....was only a matter of time. Already been mentions of the impact TD has made since his return, positive talk of performances over the last couple of weeks but this and Forestieri's theatrics are still talking points. The people moaning about people moaning are the same people that whined last season when people were looking at positives from games calling them "clappers" It is all a bit petty really. It seems to me that people can't have their own view unless it is remotely close to theirs. It's quite laughable.

On the subject of the chants, yes, the club should say something. They kept TD on the books to assist his rehabilitation. Continued chanting/praising/su

ggestion he'll "stamp on your face" isn't the way forward. Unless of course you're under the impression that it makes you an "'ard man" who likes to spout off on the internet. Keep up the good work guys, those knuckles of yours will stop dragging on the ground soon enough.
On the Internet? Nope I'm at most games, very ready to talk my opinions man to man. I'll also be at the club forum, I'm not ard to miss.
I see your pointing out the negatives, so I imagine your one of the less than happy campers among us?
Anyway how about complaining about poor refereeing, about how Forresteri has been kicked while on the ground.
And for the guy who suggests we should stop chanting Luton songs, obviously does not get what we are about. Think it's time the real fans reclaimed the Vic from the prawn sarnie brigade with their blankets and flasks.

Holly68 says...
3:56pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Let's move on ...

Bush Hornet says...
3:58pm Wed 3 Oct 12

"Deeney, show us your tits
Deeney Deeney show us your tits"

ChrisG85 says...
4:13pm Wed 3 Oct 12

lutondown wrote:
ChrisG85 wrote: People complaining about people complaining....was only a matter of time. Already been mentions of the impact TD has made since his return, positive talk of performances over the last couple of weeks but this and Forestieri's theatrics are still talking points. The people moaning about people moaning are the same people that whined last season when people were looking at positives from games calling them "clappers" It is all a bit petty really. It seems to me that people can't have their own view unless it is remotely close to theirs. It's quite laughable. On the subject of the chants, yes, the club should say something. They kept TD on the books to assist his rehabilitation. Continued chanting/praising/su ggestion he'll "stamp on your face" isn't the way forward. Unless of course you're under the impression that it makes you an "'ard man" who likes to spout off on the internet. Keep up the good work guys, those knuckles of yours will stop dragging on the ground soon enough.
On the Internet? Nope I'm at most games, very ready to talk my opinions man to man. I'll also be at the club forum, I'm not ard to miss. I see your pointing out the negatives, so I imagine your one of the less than happy campers among us? Anyway how about complaining about poor refereeing, about how Forresteri has been kicked while on the ground. And for the guy who suggests we should stop chanting Luton songs, obviously does not get what we are about. Think it's time the real fans reclaimed the Vic from the prawn sarnie brigade with their blankets and flasks.
I've pointed out negatives that have been reported. I wouldn't say I was "happy" with Watford FC at the moment, there is too much incosistency within the team performances but the passion and heart of these new players is showing and they are starting to do a job. Off the pitch is down to Pozzos/Nani/Duxbury - we don't see that much but with the Pozzos track record I'm extremely confident that the next few seasons are going to be something incredible and we will be moving in the right direction.

Despite this, nothing will take away the feeling of acheivement/relief at the final whistle last night. Referee was poor, but the 2nd half saw a few more decisions go our way which seems to suggest Mr Dean had made a mistake in the sending off - at the time, i thought he had, seeing it again, i'm undecided. This isn't about that though, this was more about glorifying the actions of TD which in my opinion is wrong.Many are saying it was a "few" supporters singing it - it may have started off like that but it soon turned into a few hundred. I think there is a line between "banter" and this, with the TD chants it has been crossed. TD has put in an amazing shift since his return and is well on the way to earning my respect again.

wfcforumsdotcom says...
4:15pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The type of person that feels the need to chant it is not the type of person who is going to take any notice of a request to stop.

Let it die down, which it will eventually. Any publicity is only going to prolong it.

buckler says...
4:17pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Wonder if Chelsea and Man Utd fans go running to local papers over a few young oiks getting carried away! Was something of nothing , wonder if the ref is crying over far more naughty fans singing that he pleasures himself ! Get real is football not Choir Practise!

lutondown says...
4:21pm Wed 3 Oct 12

wfcforumsdotcom wrote:
The type of person that feels the need to chant it is not the type of person who is going to take any notice of a request to stop.

Let it die down, which it will eventually. Any publicity is only going to prolong it.
TBH why isn't the WO taking a more positive stance on what's happening? I for one would rather home in on the way we have won two hard away games, on how fantastic our away support has been ( I think the majority have been behind Troy so suspect the ban the Troy brigade are the fair weather types).
Inconsistent? A new team and all the giblets and we're 11th in a difficult league. Why will we be like when we really gel?
We lose Forresteri Saturday and in comes Vydra. Gents the glass is half full.
Talk about one foot in the grave

lutondown says...
4:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12

buckler wrote:
Wonder if Chelsea and Man Utd fans go running to local papers over a few young oiks getting carried away! Was something of nothing , wonder if the ref is crying over far more naughty fans singing that he pleasures himself ! Get real is football not Choir Practise!
Yes mate that reference to the Refs DIY was the most appropriate chant of the night, and from what I saw chanted by all ( except one guy in a blazer, and a badge saying I'm a tool on a committee).
I'm sure Troy wouldn't want to hear that chant.. But wasn't that boy Deeney great again? All of those who said he was useless....!

bushey tales says...
4:26pm Wed 3 Oct 12

I still want to hear more about McHornet slipping into his bedroom basque (12:33) to celebrate the win. He put the Horn in Hornet!

Bush Hornet says...
4:27pm Wed 3 Oct 12

lutondown wrote:
wfcforumsdotcom wrote:
The type of person that feels the need to chant it is not the type of person who is going to take any notice of a request to stop.

Let it die down, which it will eventually. Any publicity is only going to prolong it.
TBH why isn't the WO taking a more positive stance on what's happening? I for one would rather home in on the way we have won two hard away games, on how fantastic our away support has been ( I think the majority have been behind Troy so suspect the ban the Troy brigade are the fair weather types).
Inconsistent? A new team and all the giblets and we're 11th in a difficult league. Why will we be like when we really gel?
We lose Forresteri Saturday and in comes Vydra. Gents the glass is half full.
Talk about one foot in the grave
Spot on except that technically our glass is just a little more than half full, based on league position alone

ChrisG85 says...
4:29pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Lutondown, I can see where you are coming from, away support has been fantastic and 6 points from 2 away games in a week is more than any supporter could ask for (especially if you are a Peterborough fan) but my point on being inconsistent relates to starting off well and finishing poorly or the other way round. Defensively - we need work and I know you guys all love Neuton but he is a liability and has proven that in a few games. Eg. Following the ball rather than his player, outmuscled on many occassions & short passes but, he looks like a very decent footballer and with more games comes experience. When we do gel we're going to become a team to reckon with week in, week out.

lutondown says...
4:30pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bushey tales wrote:
I still want to hear more about McHornet slipping into his bedroom basque (12:33) to celebrate the win. He put the Horn in Hornet!
He could also be a basque separatist?
Lol

lutondown says...
4:33pm Wed 3 Oct 12

ChrisG85 wrote:
Lutondown, I can see where you are coming from, away support has been fantastic and 6 points from 2 away games in a week is more than any supporter could ask for (especially if you are a Peterborough fan) but my point on being inconsistent relates to starting off well and finishing poorly or the other way round. Defensively - we need work and I know you guys all love Neuton but he is a liability and has proven that in a few games. Eg. Following the ball rather than his player, outmuscled on many occassions & short passes but, he looks like a very decent footballer and with more games comes experience. When we do gel we're going to become a team to reckon with week in, week out.
No I beg to differ on Neuton. I thought he is getting better by the game, and to have a central defender that can play football is a rarity in these parts. I by nature am not the most patient man in the world, but knew this would take time to come together, I think it's way ahead of schedule.
I can feel the passion returning to my club, and it's been missing for a long time.
You Horns

Colin West's mullet says...
4:43pm Wed 3 Oct 12

yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.

alwaysahorn says...
4:45pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Some people always have to moan about something . . Get over yourself re the Deeney chants . . . Suprised nobody has complained about the 'He's only 5 foot 3,he comes from Italy' Zola chant being offensive to small people . . Great that the fans sang all the way home on the trains too !!!

lutondown says...
4:46pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Colin West's mullet wrote:
yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.
Yes it keeps the upper rous awake on match days. It's not on, their fortnightly snooze and foray away from the Cassiobury Estate disturbed by those council house type louts.

Hampshire hornet says...
5:23pm Wed 3 Oct 12

bushey tales wrote:
I wonder if mark_123 has ever wondered why 'only 1000 sing if we're lucky' these days? More like 200 at hme games, sadly. Could it be that those who were (and still are) entirely prepared to join in with a rousing chorus of 'Yellow Army' or whatever, will not sing about Deeney stamping on people's faces. Or about Johnny Eustace shagging their wife. Or whatever. The atmosphere in the Rookery got appreciably worse, and the crowd quieter, when the club-endorsed kids took up residence in the corner at the back. Take the lead by all means, but keep it cleanish (L*t*n chants excepted) and the noise level will rise again.
He has included the away supporters in his total

lutondown says...
5:30pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Hampshire hornet wrote:
bushey tales wrote:
I wonder if mark_123 has ever wondered why 'only 1000 sing if we're lucky' these days? More like 200 at hme games, sadly. Could it be that those who were (and still are) entirely prepared to join in with a rousing chorus of 'Yellow Army' or whatever, will not sing about Deeney stamping on people's faces. Or about Johnny Eustace shagging their wife. Or whatever. The atmosphere in the Rookery got appreciably worse, and the crowd quieter, when the club-endorsed kids took up residence in the corner at the back. Take the lead by all means, but keep it cleanish (L*t*n chants excepted) and the noise level will rise again.
He has included the away supporters in his total
No it won't until they give un allocated seating to the Rookery Enders and the more sensitive type go to the more genteel parts of the ground.
Rousing Yellow Army! Mmmmm

Bush Hornet says...
5:37pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The WobWeb loves a Deeney thread

AndyHandShandy says...
6:45pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The club and Deeney should leave this alone. If the people chanting the "he'll stampon your face" dittyt thinks it helps create an atmosphere then they are slightly misguided. Yes sing,make some noise,create an atmosphere, but maybe they could try coming up with some better chants/songs. It s a bit predictable and has been for a long time.We'veonly got about 4 generic songs. Now, on to l*t*ndowns point about unallocated seating. Remember when the vic end was built. I usedto wait toget in from about 1 pm to sit up the back and atmosphere built from thetime the gates opened. I used tosing all the way through the games,every player had a song (there was fewer than we have now). Those days are long gone and the only way i can see a decent atmosphere returning to the vic is a change of seating to un allocated or do as some clubs (man city are one i believe) and have a singing section.

Holly68 says...
7:17pm Wed 3 Oct 12

This is all ridiculous. It was a group of 16 year olds, they were trying to out do each other by thinking up songs which they thought were funny, but obviously misguided. I doubt we will hear them again, let's move on .... It's now getting coverage nationally and on radio, next there will calls to hang these young lads. All it needs is a quiet "that's not appropriate" and that would be the end of it. Let's not let this go any further. The Charlton fans were singing very offensive chants about a certain south London team and their family members all inter breeding, has anyone mentioned that ? No ? The mentality of Watford needs to change as a whole, we ain't little ol Watford from the suburbs anymore .... FORZA WATFORD

buckler says...
7:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Bring back national Service for this kind of thuggery ! Lock em up no place for having a crack at football!

D.unstable says...
7:46pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Not sure what the problem is really, after all it is a fact that he stamped on somebody's face rightly or wrongly. Surely if anybody has issue it should be with Troy for his actions not at a few enjoying a bit of a sing song.

It is not as if they were singing about something that we do not know to be factual.

D.unstable says...
8:06pm Wed 3 Oct 12

lutondown wrote:
Colin West's mullet wrote:
yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.
Yes it keeps the upper rous awake on match days. It's not on, their fortnightly snooze and foray away from the Cassiobury Estate disturbed by those council house type louts.
Nothing wrong with us upper Rous types, I keep those around me awake and educate their young and old alike with my regular foul and abusive outbursts usually directed at the opposition or officials.

I think most around me now accept it and think I suffer from teretts.

Holly68 says...
8:07pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The Dortmund fans are all jumping up and down at once behind the goal, is that not a breach of ground regulations, where's the phone !?

D.unstable says...
8:13pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Holly68 wrote:
The Dortmund fans are all jumping up and down at once behind the goal, is that not a breach of ground regulations, where's the phone !?
Instead of singing they are miming what Troy Deeney done.

lutondown says...
8:40pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Holly68 wrote:
This is all ridiculous. It was a group of 16 year olds, they were trying to out do each other by thinking up songs which they thought were funny, but obviously misguided. I doubt we will hear them again, let's move on .... It's now getting coverage nationally and on radio, next there will calls to hang these young lads. All it needs is a quiet "that's not appropriate" and that would be the end of it. Let's not let this go any further. The Charlton fans were singing very offensive chants about a certain south London team and their family members all inter breeding, has anyone mentioned that ? No ? The mentality of Watford needs to change as a whole, we ain't little ol Watford from the suburbs anymore .... FORZA WATFORD
That's it I'm polishing my DMs, rolling up my White Baggys, getting the braces out and shaving my hair ( forgot, ain't got none) and getting out the old hymn book
Hymn one..there's a crack up in the ceiling.
Hymn two...hit him on the head with a baseball bat
Hymn three..floating at the bottom of division three
And when all else fails ...your gonna get your f'ing head kicked in!
Believe me, it's fairly tame these days!
And yes Holly, I think our great support at the last two games away from the numptys showed the passion is returning. You Horns

lutondown says...
8:44pm Wed 3 Oct 12

D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Colin West's mullet wrote:
yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.
Yes it keeps the upper rous awake on match days. It's not on, their fortnightly snooze and foray away from the Cassiobury Estate disturbed by those council house type louts.
Nothing wrong with us upper Rous types, I keep those around me awake and educate their young and old alike with my regular foul and abusive outbursts usually directed at the opposition or officials.

I think most around me now accept it and think I suffer from teretts.
I exclude you buddy, I know you were a council house lout, you lived next to my lout Grandad
Damned Scum, those urban rats!
Good to see you last night!

D.unstable says...
8:50pm Wed 3 Oct 12

lutondown wrote:
D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Colin West's mullet wrote:
yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.
Yes it keeps the upper rous awake on match days. It's not on, their fortnightly snooze and foray away from the Cassiobury Estate disturbed by those council house type louts.
Nothing wrong with us upper Rous types, I keep those around me awake and educate their young and old alike with my regular foul and abusive outbursts usually directed at the opposition or officials.

I think most around me now accept it and think I suffer from teretts.
I exclude you buddy, I know you were a council house lout, you lived next to my lout Grandad
Damned Scum, those urban rats!
Good to see you last night!
Lol, you too, that's twice now in 25 years. Best away game for years.

Any stay away supporters who just read these pages, get along to the Vic on Saturday, your club needs you, we'll fight them on the beaches...

lutondown says...
8:58pm Wed 3 Oct 12

D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Colin West's mullet wrote:
yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.
Yes it keeps the upper rous awake on match days. It's not on, their fortnightly snooze and foray away from the Cassiobury Estate disturbed by those council house type louts.
Nothing wrong with us upper Rous types, I keep those around me awake and educate their young and old alike with my regular foul and abusive outbursts usually directed at the opposition or officials.

I think most around me now accept it and think I suffer from teretts.
I exclude you buddy, I know you were a council house lout, you lived next to my lout Grandad
Damned Scum, those urban rats!
Good to see you last night!
Lol, you too, that's twice now in 25 years. Best away game for years.

Any stay away supporters who just read these pages, get along to the Vic on Saturday, your club needs you, we'll fight them on the beaches...
Terrets? Is that a foul mouthed pole cat? That's Leggatts School anti education for you!

kingofpop says...
9:05pm Wed 3 Oct 12

unreserved seating in the rookery would help, dare i say it take out a few hundred seats out centre at the back and create standing room for 300 or so...that might just get it going. was'nt at the game last night but our away support is usually very good anyway. youngsters will be youngsters, tasteless yes but any worse than the songs suggesting hitting looscum fans with a brick? football has changed massively in the last 20 years and not for the better in many ways

wheelsonfire says...
9:05pm Wed 3 Oct 12

There have always been pretty unpleasant fans evan at a great club like Watford.
Nothing you can do about it. I'd be more happy if they would get back to singing about the morons up the road.
Amazed at how some people thought donkey deeney was good last night.
Admittedly he tries hard but so does my nan!
Hope we get some of our proper strikers back soon!

Holly68 says...
9:07pm Wed 3 Oct 12

lutondown wrote:
Holly68 wrote: This is all ridiculous. It was a group of 16 year olds, they were trying to out do each other by thinking up songs which they thought were funny, but obviously misguided. I doubt we will hear them again, let's move on .... It's now getting coverage nationally and on radio, next there will calls to hang these young lads. All it needs is a quiet "that's not appropriate" and that would be the end of it. Let's not let this go any further. The Charlton fans were singing very offensive chants about a certain south London team and their family members all inter breeding, has anyone mentioned that ? No ? The mentality of Watford needs to change as a whole, we ain't little ol Watford from the suburbs anymore .... FORZA WATFORD
That's it I'm polishing my DMs, rolling up my White Baggys, getting the braces out and shaving my hair ( forgot, ain't got none) and getting out the old hymn book Hymn one..there's a crack up in the ceiling. Hymn two...hit him on the head with a baseball bat Hymn three..floating at the bottom of division three And when all else fails ...your gonna get your f'ing head kicked in! Believe me, it's fairly tame these days! And yes Holly, I think our great support at the last two games away from the numptys showed the passion is returning. You Horns
what was great about last night was the sense of expectation in the pub before the game, the queuing by away end, the sight of mostly boys/men in the away end, that we had an expected edge, that we weren't clap your hands stamp your feet, we were Watford, we'd come to Win and have Fun, we have the makings of a great footballing side, to watch players that will no doubt go on to better things (hopefully with us), to actually feel like a proper football team with proper football fans, passionate fans, we won, deserved to win, fans were great (bar 2 silly songs), the team were together, the fans were together, something we should all be proud of..... That's exactly what attracts people home and away, I want that again, that's what will increase attendances, great football, great support, togetherness !!! FORZA WATFORD ....

Now, later this week you'll hear the news of one or two further members of staff have been made redundant, and no doubt the doom mongers will be back out in force saying "heart being ripped out if club". I say two sides to every story, if your seen as valuable and pulling in same direction, I say you stay employed, any different any new regime will get the brush out. There is internal politics going on at the club, casualties will happen. So be prepared, two sides to every story, don't let this distract the fact we have debts secured, great players, great fans and we are on the up. FORZA WATFORD

D.unstable says...
9:07pm Wed 3 Oct 12

lutondown wrote:
D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Colin West's mullet wrote:
yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.
Yes it keeps the upper rous awake on match days. It's not on, their fortnightly snooze and foray away from the Cassiobury Estate disturbed by those council house type louts.
Nothing wrong with us upper Rous types, I keep those around me awake and educate their young and old alike with my regular foul and abusive outbursts usually directed at the opposition or officials.

I think most around me now accept it and think I suffer from teretts.
I exclude you buddy, I know you were a council house lout, you lived next to my lout Grandad
Damned Scum, those urban rats!
Good to see you last night!
Lol, you too, that's twice now in 25 years. Best away game for years.

Any stay away supporters who just read these pages, get along to the Vic on Saturday, your club needs you, we'll fight them on the beaches...
Terrets? Is that a foul mouthed pole cat? That's Leggatts School anti education for you!
Tourette I do believe.

Holly68 says...
9:20pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Gotta say Dortmund (Yellow and Black) looking awesome, and their Fans amazing to a person. That could be us within 5 years !!!! (Dream but who knows)

lutondown says...
9:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12

wheelsonfire wrote:
There have always been pretty unpleasant fans evan at a great club like Watford.
Nothing you can do about it. I'd be more happy if they would get back to singing about the morons up the road.
Amazed at how some people thought donkey deeney was good last night.
Admittedly he tries hard but so does my nan!
Hope we get some of our proper strikers back soon!
Yeah your one of those unpleasant and unwanted fans. Hope we get some of our proper fans back soon.
Donkey Deeney? Neigh

wheelsonfire says...
9:45pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Yeah proper fans like you Luton? And how long have you been a proper fan?
I was there last night and the amount of Watford fans there was poor. 20 odd years ago we would have filled the ground!

goldenboy1993 says...
9:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12

The atmos was great at the game, that should be it, I have had enough of people moaning about anything Deeney related, the way watford fans are at some games I dont think the club is in any position to tell the fans not to chant

Harrydownunder says...
9:52pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Whatever happened to the saying "sticks and stones may break my bones"? We are all too sensitive these days. Ridiculous story and ridiculous complaints to the WO. Haven't these do gooders got anything better to do?
Surely their energy would be put to better use by supporting the team instead of complaining about those that do!!!

lutondown says...
9:59pm Wed 3 Oct 12

wheelsonfire wrote:
Yeah proper fans like you Luton? And how long have you been a proper fan?
I was there last night and the amount of Watford fans there was poor. 20 odd years ago we would have filled the ground!
Only 40 years, the support was poor? You sure you was there? You there at Huddersfield, was that poor too!?
1300 for a night game on a wet and windy night.
The majority shouting for Deeney as were the 700 or so who trekked north Saturday.
Thing is matey, I'm not faceless, I'd say half a dozen know me on this forum,and yes I'm a proper fan.
20 years ago we'd of filled the ground?
Now that is funny sonny!

D.unstable says...
10:04pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Holly68 wrote:
Gotta say Dortmund (Yellow and Black) looking awesome, and their Fans amazing to a person. That could be us within 5 years !!!! (Dream but who knows)
I know you don't mean what the are wearing but regardless I wouldn't mind us having a yellow and black striped kit, with just a tinge of red, puma too.

D.unstable says...
10:10pm Wed 3 Oct 12

lutondown wrote:
wheelsonfire wrote:
Yeah proper fans like you Luton? And how long have you been a proper fan?
I was there last night and the amount of Watford fans there was poor. 20 odd years ago we would have filled the ground!
Only 40 years, the support was poor? You sure you was there? You there at Huddersfield, was that poor too!?
1300 for a night game on a wet and windy night.
The majority shouting for Deeney as were the 700 or so who trekked north Saturday.
Thing is matey, I'm not faceless, I'd say half a dozen know me on this forum,and yes I'm a proper fan.
20 years ago we'd of filled the ground?
Now that is funny sonny!
Indeed my old LD, a true golden boy...I have now missed 2 home games in 34 years and you are making me feel like a youngster you old git

watfordway says...
10:38pm Wed 3 Oct 12

I personally thought the chanting about Deeney was funny, nothing more. I also believe it was a bit harsh that Deeney got sent sent down for affray. When I got done for affray I only got an £80 fine. Up the Orns.

Frankie Frazer says...
7:26am Thu 4 Oct 12

I thought the support on Tuesday in general was fantastic, however the Deeney chants are disgusting and anyone who thinks it's ok is completely deluded! I had a friend who had his head stamped on who nearly died and to say singing songs about it is funny or his sentence is harsh just shows how simple some people can be !!!
Don't get me wrong I love the Luton songs and the swearing doesn't bother me in the slightest (it's part and parcel of football) and can be very funny! but stopping chants about stamping on someone's head is not going to take anything way from the atmosphere is it?
I have 2 lads under the age of 10 and I don't want to have to explain why some people think its ok to stamp on someone, for the record I will eventually be more than happy to explain to them why we need to sh*t on fans from Bedfordshire from up in the sky! I can happily explain this is just a bit of banter, not so easy when it is a true life experience tho is it !!!

srfc says...
8:08am Thu 4 Oct 12

Please remind me this is a game of football and not library time!!?? It wasn't racist, it wasn't homophobic it wasn't cheering about a family membr, DEAL WITH IT. Surely the club should of expected it no matter how muh they thought football might have changed. come on, rightly or wrongly the club has openly backed a player who has to wear a f***ing curfew tag while he plays, it was alays gonna come with the territory.....althou
gh it doesn't make it right and i agree the club making noise about it is just going to fuel oppostion fans.

Berkshire Hornet says...
8:15am Thu 4 Oct 12

Surely there is more in life to worry about than a few young and naive kids singing a song about a football player. I agree its not a song that i would join in and sing along too but If you've complained about it then you need to get a life.

endean2 says...
9:32am Thu 4 Oct 12

right who is going to cordinate the fans to
act like the Borussia ones? that was seriously impressive to see.

my vote goes to Gareth Malone (of the Choir fame) he could whip us into shape
in no time.

Dr,Oftaw says...
10:09am Thu 4 Oct 12

who remembers abusing david batty at the vic,chanting
batty is a banker batty is a banker followed by banker banker give us a wave to which he stood in front of the rookery with a big grin and waved, we all laughed cheered and applauded then left him alone for the rest of the match.

akureyri says...
11:35am Thu 4 Oct 12

McHornet wrote:
It's a shame that after such a great win the only two things the WO want to report on are Forestieri - Dive or Slip? and a band of Fans singing ill taste Songs! Basque in the glory of 2 wins on the trot! Does anyone know any websites where i can see the goals?
McHornet - Basque in the glory

I did not know Manuel Almunia was a Basque, you have a very clever literrary joke there!

Holly68 says...
11:49am Thu 4 Oct 12

Akureyri, do you have Magnus email address ?

akureyri says...
12:10pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Holly68 wrote:
Akureyri, do you have Magnus email address ?
I do not, he should not be difficult to find as there are only 320,000 and not many Magnús ;)

Try facebook we are all there somewhere

Chris the Vic says...
12:50pm Thu 4 Oct 12

It is difficult for both the player and the club.

I am sure Troy having apologised wants to move on and as a club the same can be said.

The stupidity of the chant is well recognised and cannot be condoned, but those doing it should recognise they are both an embarassment to the club and the player and if that is what they wish to achieve, they cannot claim to support the team.

Colin West's mullet says...
12:51pm Thu 4 Oct 12

D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
D.unstable wrote:
lutondown wrote:
Colin West's mullet wrote:
yes, stamp it out. We all agree there's far too much singing by our fans. We must stop this cancer now or where will it end? Singing at home games? This madness must stop.
Yes it keeps the upper rous awake on match days. It's not on, their fortnightly snooze and foray away from the Cassiobury Estate disturbed by those council house type louts.
Nothing wrong with us upper Rous types, I keep those around me awake and educate their young and old alike with my regular foul and abusive outbursts usually directed at the opposition or officials.

I think most around me now accept it and think I suffer from teretts.
I exclude you buddy, I know you were a council house lout, you lived next to my lout Grandad
Damned Scum, those urban rats!
Good to see you last night!
Lol, you too, that's twice now in 25 years. Best away game for years.

Any stay away supporters who just read these pages, get along to the Vic on Saturday, your club needs you, we'll fight them on the beaches...
...and bite them on the features.

hemel_hornet says...
2:29pm Fri 5 Oct 12

Yes the chant was ott and i personally didnt join in with it or the one about the police...but ffs this is football!

It seems that some people are only happy if they have got something to moan about. I dont get to that many games nowadays due to work and family commitments. Nowadays the match day atmosphere at the vic is so insipid and sterile that it puts me off (and i suspect many others) from going anymore. Tuesday night was the most fun ive had at the football for a long, long time. I did not stop singing (apart from those songs) from start to finish and have still got a a croaky voice.

The pc brigade are getting their knickers in a bit of twist about it...and yes it was ott, but then most football songs dont tend to tick all the pc boxes. At the end of the day if enough people dont like the chant it will die out.

Tuesday night reminded me of back in the day during the 90's when the vic road end used to rock. Back in those days we really were the 12th man roaring the boys on and spurred on by the likes of Ramage and Mooney. Who can forget that Tranmere game back in 99 when a poor referee decision sparked the crowd off and how the players bounced off of it to go and win that game and subsequently 10 out of the last 11 to get us into the playoffs.
All the banter with the old git steward (neeeeeeeehhhhhh!) and wolf man was brilliant. Rightly or wrongly the perception of the group of lads leading the singing is of a bunch of chavs with a poor drum beat....please lets have come on you orns at corners rather than that crap slow drum roll!

When the vic road end was unreserved seating all the lads young and old could congregate together and bounce off of each other. It was often the older lads starting off the singing which made for a much better variety of songs than the boring ones now.

Lets just focus on what a good performance it was from the boys and what a great almosphere!!!

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