Ten-man Hornets suffer Boro defeat (From Watford Observer)

WOReader wrote:
I paid good money for three tickets today. It was our first match this season and we had seats just in front of this incident which all three of us thought was innocuous. Unfortunately, the referee spoilt our enjoyment of this game.

Referees should be taken to task over incidents like this. They should only be able to issue a red card if there is no doubt that they observed dangerous play. If there is the slightest doubt then the card should be yellow at most.

Perhaps the FA shold refund us the cost of our tickets if the evidence shows that there was no observable dangerous play.

WOReader wrote:
I paid good money for three tickets today. It was our first match this season and we had seats just in front of this incident which all three of us thought was innocuous. Unfortunately, the referee spoilt our enjoyment of this game.

Referees should be taken to task over incidents like this. They should only be able to issue a red card if there is no doubt that they observed dangerous play. If there is the slightest doubt then the card should be yellow at most.

Perhaps the FA shold refund us the cost of our tickets if the evidence shows that there was no observable dangerous play.

jasonwatford wrote:
First off i think we should all email the football league to condem this inept joke of an official...Second great PA at end as ref walked off they played Your an embarrassment by Madness..priceless !!!

jasonwatford wrote:
enquiries@football-l

eague.co.uk
There you go...i have sent email to complaints dept and asked for a reply to my complaint......so cmon get emailing

Chris the Vic wrote:
Marlon got it right. Asley Cole's opinion of the FA should include the majorityof referees...too many of them and their assistants get it wrong, too often and respond with total arrogance

They should be suspended like the players and fined.

As for Zola if Fernando slipped why didn't we appeal and if Vydra did not stamp we must appeal.

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
Agree with most of this. The sending off was one of those bizarre decisions. Changed the game. Ruined the game. But surely we can appeal?

peter10531089 wrote:
We all reacted with bewilderment when the free kick was given to Boro and then with total horror when he produced the red card - the Boro players to their credit looked as bewildered about the decision as the rest of us.

The ref totally ruined what was turning into a very entertaining match with neither side seemingly doing anything to stop the other from attacking, the game in the second half had a very odd atmosphere as a result as Boro used the extra man and Zola seemed impotent to change anything to support the forward.

Personally I was disappointed that after the first 15/20 minutes we were unable to press Boro collectively and let them ease their way back into the game, of course had the early chances been converted this might not have been so annoying but even so, before the sending off Zola had lose the initiative and the central midfield 3 had started to look very ragged.

Nueton continues to frustrate, his poor defending is now coupled with cocking up encouraging looking counterattacks.

Deeney being replaced seemed to baffle everyone near me as he has the strength, ability to hold the ball, win set pieces and score goals but having waited to so long to see Geijo I was hopeful but (and it is unfair to judge on one 45 minute performance playing upfront on his own) he seemed far less well equipped to play this role in the particular game than the player he replaced.

Geijo showed some nice touches, some extremely large shorts(!!!?!) but his movement and determination to get into the box seemed poor but this will improve will improve with fitness, time on the pitch, a strike partner and better fitting shorts (at least I hope it will).

Not the best from the yellows and Zola needs to make better in-game decisions but the man in black ruined the game and I do hope the football league show will show what a prat he was! The decision to show Boro a yellow card for a knee high challenge in the 2nd half really capped a thoroughly incompetent display!

buckler wrote:
Deeney looked fine to me and guarantee he didn't want to come off! It was a bad decision by Zola as was bringing on Yeates! 2 changes made us worse!

tonyevans22 wrote:
Deeney was taken off because he was shattered,he played upfront on his own at Charlton with 10 men and Zola didn't want him doing it again while he is regaining full match fitness,so I can understand why the change was made.I think all that has been said about the ref has been said,so see no point going over old ground.

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:
Sat watching Prize Fighter is probably not the best way to calm down but seeing the 2 good looking girls kissing in the Chineese has helped some what. Anyway back on track!

The 1st 25 minutes was the best i have seen us play for ages. 2 Men on everyball, always an option, different attacking options etc etc! I thought it was one of the best football matches i have ever seen with both teams getting the ball down and playing!

The ref unfortunatly ruined a very promising game for us and i have no doubt that had he stayed on we would of gone on to win. Too often we seem to get landed with a pillock who is either being payed off or reads the papers and forms an opinion before the match. The Forestieri sending off was to much of a coicidence!

Im not sure how the FA and Football League can expect the Respect campaign to work because you have to earn respect and they are nowhere near achieving that! He is not even good enough to ref sunday league and was inconsistant all over the pitch!

I also noticed the Middlebrough player who took a dive and not even a free kick was awarded so do we assume the refs are racist or is that to taboo...

However credit has to go to Nicky Baily and Tony Mowbuery for comeing out and declaring how shocked they were. This will help with the appeal that has now been launched! Credit also has to go to the middlesbrough player who skinned Cassetti and was then tripped in the box, but who stayed on his feet.

I think there was enough on show for us to see that when we have Vydra, Forestieri, Deeney/Geijo and Battocchio as the forward attacking players we will be capable of scoring 2 or 3 a match! On the subject of Geijo, he has not played since May, he has had no pre season and he was thrust into a situation that was always goin to be difficult!

I think there were lots of posatives and bar for there keeper making a wonder save that i still cant work out how he did it, we would of had a draw with 10 men against one of the better teams in the leagues!

To finish I'd like to bring up a sour point in the fact that myself and LD as well as a few other people we speak to all had to give out bollo***ngs to so called Watford fans for getting on players and Zola's back. Its not called for and not needed and next time it wont be just a bollo**ng you get.

And finally i thought Middlesbrough did well to bring that many with them and to them and all Watford fans i hope everyone got home safe and well.

God Bless.

lutondown wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:
Sat watching Prize Fighter is probably not the best way to calm down but seeing the 2 good looking girls kissing in the Chineese has helped some what. Anyway back on track!

The 1st 25 minutes was the best i have seen us play for ages. 2 Men on everyball, always an option, different attacking options etc etc! I thought it was one of the best football matches i have ever seen with both teams getting the ball down and playing!

The ref unfortunatly ruined a very promising game for us and i have no doubt that had he stayed on we would of gone on to win. Too often we seem to get landed with a pillock who is either being payed off or reads the papers and forms an opinion before the match. The Forestieri sending off was to much of a coicidence!

Im not sure how the FA and Football League can expect the Respect campaign to work because you have to earn respect and they are nowhere near achieving that! He is not even good enough to ref sunday league and was inconsistant all over the pitch!

I also noticed the Middlebrough player who took a dive and not even a free kick was awarded so do we assume the refs are racist or is that to taboo...

However credit has to go to Nicky Baily and Tony Mowbuery for comeing out and declaring how shocked they were. This will help with the appeal that has now been launched! Credit also has to go to the middlesbrough player who skinned Cassetti and was then tripped in the box, but who stayed on his feet.

I think there was enough on show for us to see that when we have Vydra, Forestieri, Deeney/Geijo and Battocchio as the forward attacking players we will be capable of scoring 2 or 3 a match! On the subject of Geijo, he has not played since May, he has had no pre season and he was thrust into a situation that was always goin to be difficult!

I think there were lots of posatives and bar for there keeper making a wonder save that i still cant work out how he did it, we would of had a draw with 10 men against one of the better teams in the leagues!

To finish I'd like to bring up a sour point in the fact that myself and LD as well as a few other people we speak to all had to give out bollo***ngs to so called Watford fans for getting on players and Zola's back. Its not called for and not needed and next time it wont be just a bollo**ng you get.

And finally i thought Middlesbrough did well to bring that many with them and to them and all Watford fans i hope everyone got home safe and well.

God Bless.

Chris ask that God pal of yours to sort that useless ref out. Can't remember too much of the bible but I think in the OT he said he was a vengeful God, that's good when it comes to getting revenge on that useless numpty.
LD Chapter 1 verse 1:2 Thy hand will strike down the servant of the the devil and he will come dressed in black, bald as Buck and as pompous as Gary Barlow, as incompetent as Bas and as arrogant as Alan Sugar.
Need a poem from Cornet to lighten the mood!

Holly68 wrote:
Chalobah was outstanding again, can't believe he is not 18 until December, there is an option that he may stay until end of season. He is so calm and comfortable on the ball and breezes past people, best player of that age I have seen in a long time.

Almunia was very good today, he is so very vocal, interesting that Loach made a clanger today #kissthebadge

Mingoia scored for Accrington, Garner scored for Carlisle (pigs do fly), Bennett & Jenkins didn't get a game, Wichelow got 15 minutes as sub, Thompson is back at Watford. Dickinson and Hodson looked pretty down today whilst touring the lounges, can't see them getting near the team at the moment.

Sooner unreserved seating comes in the better to create atmosphere in the Rookery

Wonder what the Pozzo's made of it all ? Maybe the Wobby can find out ...

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

Holly68 wrote:
Chalobah was outstanding again, can't believe he is not 18 until December, there is an option that he may stay until end of season. He is so calm and comfortable on the ball and breezes past people, best player of that age I have seen in a long time.

Almunia was very good today, he is so very vocal, interesting that Loach made a clanger today #kissthebadge

Mingoia scored for Accrington, Garner scored for Carlisle (pigs do fly), Bennett & Jenkins didn't get a game, Wichelow got 15 minutes as sub, Thompson is back at Watford. Dickinson and Hodson looked pretty down today whilst touring the lounges, can't see them getting near the team at the moment.

Sooner unreserved seating comes in the better to create atmosphere in the Rookery

Wonder what the Pozzo's made of it all ? Maybe the Wobby can find out ...

I got 5 mins with my mate Gino and he told me that in January he is goin to sent over a bloke my the name of natalie.. never heard of him but Gino seemed to rate him...

Holly68 wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

Holly68 wrote:
Chalobah was outstanding again, can't believe he is not 18 until December, there is an option that he may stay until end of season. He is so calm and comfortable on the ball and breezes past people, best player of that age I have seen in a long time.

Almunia was very good today, he is so very vocal, interesting that Loach made a clanger today #kissthebadge

Mingoia scored for Accrington, Garner scored for Carlisle (pigs do fly), Bennett & Jenkins didn't get a game, Wichelow got 15 minutes as sub, Thompson is back at Watford. Dickinson and Hodson looked pretty down today whilst touring the lounges, can't see them getting near the team at the moment.

Sooner unreserved seating comes in the better to create atmosphere in the Rookery

Wonder what the Pozzo's made of it all ? Maybe the Wobby can find out ...

I got 5 mins with my mate Gino and he told me that in January he is goin to sent over a bloke my the name of natalie.. never heard of him but Gino seemed to rate him...

Natalie the tea lady

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

lutondown wrote:

tonyevans22 wrote:
Deeney was taken off because he was shattered,he played upfront on his own at Charlton with 10 men and Zola didn't want him doing it again while he is regaining full match fitness,so I can understand why the change was made.I think all that has been said about the ref has been said,so see no point going over old ground.

No it hasn't all been said, everything about the konb that can't be said on here is the great unsaid.
10 red cards out of 12 for this jerk, that can't be right, can it?

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

Holly68 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

There are several rumours flying around at the moment, I guess the Fans Forum or if the Wobby can get an interview with Duxbury can clear them up.

I am sitting on fence as far as Duxbury goes at the moment as always two sides to every story ....

Rumours so far :

40% increase in season tickets next year (inc Corporate areas)

Richard Line (Liason officer) is Duxbury brother in law

The Catering was outsourced to Lindley without a competitive tender process

Our Coach company has been switched to a company that Duxbury wife involved in

The are more rumours, but to be fair to Scott there may be no truth in any of them, in order for the rumours to stop and before they gain momentum hopefully he will respond to the Wobby or at the forum.

We are going through change which I am all for, it's all about balancing old and new

D.unstable wrote:
Still too pi**ed off to comment, feeling totally cheated by that ref. they should have to come out and explain their decisions afterwards, instead of just sneaking away, leaving us robbed of 3 points that can make a big difference come May.

I see the Pozzo's sitting behind me along with Vinnie Jones.

kingofpop wrote:
Hows the mining industry these days?? or for that matter any kind of manufactoring going? You know why Maggie shut the mines? Because the north are incappable and can get better products abroad...cheaper aswell.

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Well said chrisbottom some people are absolutely diluded! Where's my free ticket for 31 years support?
These so called legends lived the life I would love to have: playing football for a living, adored by thousands, paid well, free drinks etc etc!
They have to accept that they were players from a past that will never be anymore! Times have moved on!

Holly68 wrote:

D.unstable wrote:
Still too pi**ed off to comment, feeling totally cheated by that ref. they should have to come out and explain their decisions afterwards, instead of just sneaking away, leaving us robbed of 3 points that can make a big difference come May.

I see the Pozzo's sitting behind me along with Vinnie Jones.

We're you in lounge ?

As well as Pozzo's, Vinny, Pleat, Burkinshaw, Bassett, Wise, Gilligan, Udinese board, Terry, Kamara, L Taylor, Luther, Bolton ....

It was one ticket per ex player (normally two) and the player in person has to sign for them, rather than someone else collect them all

DuffmanWFC wrote:
D.unstable you should of asked Vinnie if he could go on the pitch and squeeze the refs nuts till they burst!
Only then would justice of been served for that stupid sending off!

There was only one Scully wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

All you negative numties are gettin right on my tits and rather boring. Im sure a lot of you clowns only come on here to rile most of us up. You cannot live in the past. No business lives in the past and football is a business otherwise you end up like luton. Yes its sad that some of the older players didnt get in for free, but if they love the club surly they can stretch to £25 to help their beloved club.

Out of interest, which bit of the clubs history is being destoryed???

If over priced food is the biggest drama we have to face under the new owners im opening my arms wider to accept them.

What went before was a lot of dodgy owners who were out for them selves. Players been sold on the cheap. Rubbish football. Mid table if we were lucky but more likely a relegation battle. And all that if we didnt go bust. Now if the new owners and Duxebury wanna get rid of that image, my arms are gettin wider and wider in welcoming them!

The acadamy is the most pointless subject in the world. Murray and Hoban are the only 1st teamers from the acaday with Bond and Smith featuring on the bench.

The acadamy to be a grade 1 status costs £2.3 million. You have to offer a minimum of 20 contracts per year to acadamy graduates. we havent offered that many since its opened! Then you have the weekly cost of those contracts. You have to have coaches for every 8 players not the 12 it is now so again more moeny on wages. You also have to have an indoor all weather pitch which we dont have so would have to build.

Take all that into account and you at 5 or 6 million pound extra a year. Now where do you surpose we get that money from because the acadamy is not producing the players to re coup that...

If you dont like the fact that the club has stable owners who know how to run a club, who have a legend in charge playing a passing attacking game. Giving us the chance to watch some of the best players we will see at the Vic, then there are 91 other clubs for you to go and watch!!!!!!!!!

The new owners and bored have given us 3 matches before christmas where kids get in for the price of a mars bar and an open training session in which kids can take part with the 1st team!! Players are also in the shop and in the town signing autographs! What more can they do to make this club more accessible to the local kids and the local area??

How would you do it differentlly????

A 24 carat plonker! Its fans like you that do not see the mist in the early morning.
I have quoted fact and what have you come up with, blinkered, emotional and nonsensical red top sensationalism.
Your totalitarian outlook is wonderful but reality and what is happening now does not tell the true story of our club so far.
No real direction, no heart, no identity and lets be honest a team of players that did not cut the grade at our feeder club!
You remind me of everything that is wrong with our club and football in general.
Politicians can fool those that do not know politics but football fans are not fools.

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

Holly68 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

There are several rumours flying around at the moment, I guess the Fans Forum or if the Wobby can get an interview with Duxbury can clear them up.

I am sitting on fence as far as Duxbury goes at the moment as always two sides to every story ....

Rumours so far :

40% increase in season tickets next year (inc Corporate areas)

Richard Line (Liason officer) is Duxbury brother in law

The Catering was outsourced to Lindley without a competitive tender process

Our Coach company has been switched to a company that Duxbury wife involved in

The are more rumours, but to be fair to Scott there may be no truth in any of them, in order for the rumours to stop and before they gain momentum hopefully he will respond to the Wobby or at the forum.

We are going through change which I am all for, it's all about balancing old and new

I do not see any truth in the roumer abot a 40% season ticket increase as no club is that stupid or naive to think fans will A - accept it and B - pay it.

Regards giving bussiness to his mrs and mates, that is no different to what i or anyone else would do in that position.

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

All you negative numties are gettin right on my tits and rather boring. Im sure a lot of you clowns only come on here to rile most of us up. You cannot live in the past. No business lives in the past and football is a business otherwise you end up like luton. Yes its sad that some of the older players didnt get in for free, but if they love the club surly they can stretch to £25 to help their beloved club.

Out of interest, which bit of the clubs history is being destoryed???

If over priced food is the biggest drama we have to face under the new owners im opening my arms wider to accept them.

What went before was a lot of dodgy owners who were out for them selves. Players been sold on the cheap. Rubbish football. Mid table if we were lucky but more likely a relegation battle. And all that if we didnt go bust. Now if the new owners and Duxebury wanna get rid of that image, my arms are gettin wider and wider in welcoming them!

The acadamy is the most pointless subject in the world. Murray and Hoban are the only 1st teamers from the acaday with Bond and Smith featuring on the bench.

The acadamy to be a grade 1 status costs £2.3 million. You have to offer a minimum of 20 contracts per year to acadamy graduates. we havent offered that many since its opened! Then you have the weekly cost of those contracts. You have to have coaches for every 8 players not the 12 it is now so again more moeny on wages. You also have to have an indoor all weather pitch which we dont have so would have to build.

Take all that into account and you at 5 or 6 million pound extra a year. Now where do you surpose we get that money from because the acadamy is not producing the players to re coup that...

If you dont like the fact that the club has stable owners who know how to run a club, who have a legend in charge playing a passing attacking game. Giving us the chance to watch some of the best players we will see at the Vic, then there are 91 other clubs for you to go and watch!!!!!!!!!

The new owners and bored have given us 3 matches before christmas where kids get in for the price of a mars bar and an open training session in which kids can take part with the 1st team!! Players are also in the shop and in the town signing autographs! What more can they do to make this club more accessible to the local kids and the local area??

How would you do it differentlly????

A 24 carat plonker! Its fans like you that do not see the mist in the early morning.
I have quoted fact and what have you come up with, blinkered, emotional and nonsensical red top sensationalism.
Your totalitarian outlook is wonderful but reality and what is happening now does not tell the true story of our club so far.
No real direction, no heart, no identity and lets be honest a team of players that did not cut the grade at our feeder club!
You remind me of everything that is wrong with our club and football in general.
Politicians can fool those that do not know politics but football fans are not fools.

If im a 24 carrot plonker then that makes you a 42 carrot plonker! You have not qouted any facts. You have whined on about how we are not stuck in the past.

You have not answered my question in what you would do different.

You have not answered my question in terms of which bits of our history is been destroyed. So answer these with some facts please.

I see the mist in the early morning as i go for a jog at 5 am before boxing traing.

You remind me of what is wrong with our club in the fact you would rather watch crap football, been played by average joes resulting in a struggle for places in the league while we worry about our bank balance and have our best players pinched for peanuts. How can any real fan want this for thier club??!! Answer that one while your at it!

You have qouted no facts as the facts you claim you have qouted, you have not clarifyed or answered my response.

The direction which you claim does not exist, does. It is that we are owned by football people who are intrested in getting us good young players in who help the club be competative and eventually challenge for promotion.

And no heart???? That really does prove that you either do not go or you go with your eyes shut? Did you got to Palace? Did you go to Hudderfield? Did you go to Charlton? I did. And what i saw was a group of players with absolute heart and passion that did not ever give up and challenged for every single thing resulting in great performances and points.

By saying you qoute facts yet you have qouted none and you have not answered my questions and by saying the club has no heart, you have proved you are nothing. Not worth my time or anyone elses.

Your not woth me getting worked up over as i have met your sort before and quite frankly i dont rate it.

Come if you want and moan but you will be drowned out and if you dont come you wont be missed.

Oh and by the way everything in this post and my previous one is fact and i can back up every single point i made and make.

D.unstable wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

All you negative numties are gettin right on my tits and rather boring. Im sure a lot of you clowns only come on here to rile most of us up. You cannot live in the past. No business lives in the past and football is a business otherwise you end up like luton. Yes its sad that some of the older players didnt get in for free, but if they love the club surly they can stretch to £25 to help their beloved club.

Out of interest, which bit of the clubs history is being destoryed???

If over priced food is the biggest drama we have to face under the new owners im opening my arms wider to accept them.

What went before was a lot of dodgy owners who were out for them selves. Players been sold on the cheap. Rubbish football. Mid table if we were lucky but more likely a relegation battle. And all that if we didnt go bust. Now if the new owners and Duxebury wanna get rid of that image, my arms are gettin wider and wider in welcoming them!

The acadamy is the most pointless subject in the world. Murray and Hoban are the only 1st teamers from the acaday with Bond and Smith featuring on the bench.

The acadamy to be a grade 1 status costs £2.3 million. You have to offer a minimum of 20 contracts per year to acadamy graduates. we havent offered that many since its opened! Then you have the weekly cost of those contracts. You have to have coaches for every 8 players not the 12 it is now so again more moeny on wages. You also have to have an indoor all weather pitch which we dont have so would have to build.

Take all that into account and you at 5 or 6 million pound extra a year. Now where do you surpose we get that money from because the acadamy is not producing the players to re coup that...

If you dont like the fact that the club has stable owners who know how to run a club, who have a legend in charge playing a passing attacking game. Giving us the chance to watch some of the best players we will see at the Vic, then there are 91 other clubs for you to go and watch!!!!!!!!!

The new owners and bored have given us 3 matches before christmas where kids get in for the price of a mars bar and an open training session in which kids can take part with the 1st team!! Players are also in the shop and in the town signing autographs! What more can they do to make this club more accessible to the local kids and the local area??

How would you do it differentlly????

A 24 carat plonker! Its fans like you that do not see the mist in the early morning.
I have quoted fact and what have you come up with, blinkered, emotional and nonsensical red top sensationalism.
Your totalitarian outlook is wonderful but reality and what is happening now does not tell the true story of our club so far.
No real direction, no heart, no identity and lets be honest a team of players that did not cut the grade at our feeder club!
You remind me of everything that is wrong with our club and football in general.
Politicians can fool those that do not know politics but football fans are not fools.

If im a 24 carrot plonker then that makes you a 42 carrot plonker! You have not qouted any facts. You have whined on about how we are not stuck in the past.

You have not answered my question in what you would do different.

You have not answered my question in terms of which bits of our history is been destroyed. So answer these with some facts please.

I see the mist in the early morning as i go for a jog at 5 am before boxing traing.

You remind me of what is wrong with our club in the fact you would rather watch crap football, been played by average joes resulting in a struggle for places in the league while we worry about our bank balance and have our best players pinched for peanuts. How can any real fan want this for thier club??!! Answer that one while your at it!

You have qouted no facts as the facts you claim you have qouted, you have not clarifyed or answered my response.

The direction which you claim does not exist, does. It is that we are owned by football people who are intrested in getting us good young players in who help the club be competative and eventually challenge for promotion.

And no heart???? That really does prove that you either do not go or you go with your eyes shut? Did you got to Palace? Did you go to Hudderfield? Did you go to Charlton? I did. And what i saw was a group of players with absolute heart and passion that did not ever give up and challenged for every single thing resulting in great performances and points.

By saying you qoute facts yet you have qouted none and you have not answered my questions and by saying the club has no heart, you have proved you are nothing. Not worth my time or anyone elses.

Your not woth me getting worked up over as i have met your sort before and quite frankly i dont rate it.

Come if you want and moan but you will be drowned out and if you dont come you wont be missed.

Oh and by the way everything in this post and my previous one is fact and i can back up every single point i made and make.

Agree 100% Chris, I admire your calmness in responding to such a yawn post, either get on the bus or jog on sculls. Any so called fan who is referring to us as a feeder club are either on a wind up or just not worth conversing with.

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

D.unstable wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

All you negative numties are gettin right on my tits and rather boring. Im sure a lot of you clowns only come on here to rile most of us up. You cannot live in the past. No business lives in the past and football is a business otherwise you end up like luton. Yes its sad that some of the older players didnt get in for free, but if they love the club surly they can stretch to £25 to help their beloved club.

Out of interest, which bit of the clubs history is being destoryed???

If over priced food is the biggest drama we have to face under the new owners im opening my arms wider to accept them.

What went before was a lot of dodgy owners who were out for them selves. Players been sold on the cheap. Rubbish football. Mid table if we were lucky but more likely a relegation battle. And all that if we didnt go bust. Now if the new owners and Duxebury wanna get rid of that image, my arms are gettin wider and wider in welcoming them!

The acadamy is the most pointless subject in the world. Murray and Hoban are the only 1st teamers from the acaday with Bond and Smith featuring on the bench.

The acadamy to be a grade 1 status costs £2.3 million. You have to offer a minimum of 20 contracts per year to acadamy graduates. we havent offered that many since its opened! Then you have the weekly cost of those contracts. You have to have coaches for every 8 players not the 12 it is now so again more moeny on wages. You also have to have an indoor all weather pitch which we dont have so would have to build.

Take all that into account and you at 5 or 6 million pound extra a year. Now where do you surpose we get that money from because the acadamy is not producing the players to re coup that...

If you dont like the fact that the club has stable owners who know how to run a club, who have a legend in charge playing a passing attacking game. Giving us the chance to watch some of the best players we will see at the Vic, then there are 91 other clubs for you to go and watch!!!!!!!!!

The new owners and bored have given us 3 matches before christmas where kids get in for the price of a mars bar and an open training session in which kids can take part with the 1st team!! Players are also in the shop and in the town signing autographs! What more can they do to make this club more accessible to the local kids and the local area??

How would you do it differentlly????

A 24 carat plonker! Its fans like you that do not see the mist in the early morning.
I have quoted fact and what have you come up with, blinkered, emotional and nonsensical red top sensationalism.
Your totalitarian outlook is wonderful but reality and what is happening now does not tell the true story of our club so far.
No real direction, no heart, no identity and lets be honest a team of players that did not cut the grade at our feeder club!
You remind me of everything that is wrong with our club and football in general.
Politicians can fool those that do not know politics but football fans are not fools.

If im a 24 carrot plonker then that makes you a 42 carrot plonker! You have not qouted any facts. You have whined on about how we are not stuck in the past.

You have not answered my question in what you would do different.

You have not answered my question in terms of which bits of our history is been destroyed. So answer these with some facts please.

I see the mist in the early morning as i go for a jog at 5 am before boxing traing.

You remind me of what is wrong with our club in the fact you would rather watch crap football, been played by average joes resulting in a struggle for places in the league while we worry about our bank balance and have our best players pinched for peanuts. How can any real fan want this for thier club??!! Answer that one while your at it!

You have qouted no facts as the facts you claim you have qouted, you have not clarifyed or answered my response.

The direction which you claim does not exist, does. It is that we are owned by football people who are intrested in getting us good young players in who help the club be competative and eventually challenge for promotion.

And no heart???? That really does prove that you either do not go or you go with your eyes shut? Did you got to Palace? Did you go to Hudderfield? Did you go to Charlton? I did. And what i saw was a group of players with absolute heart and passion that did not ever give up and challenged for every single thing resulting in great performances and points.

By saying you qoute facts yet you have qouted none and you have not answered my questions and by saying the club has no heart, you have proved you are nothing. Not worth my time or anyone elses.

Your not woth me getting worked up over as i have met your sort before and quite frankly i dont rate it.

Come if you want and moan but you will be drowned out and if you dont come you wont be missed.

Oh and by the way everything in this post and my previous one is fact and i can back up every single point i made and make.

Agree 100% Chris, I admire your calmness in responding to such a yawn post, either get on the bus or jog on sculls. Any so called fan who is referring to us as a feeder club are either on a wind up or just not worth conversing with.

Bud i take steroids and im missing half a lung to pneumonia and adreanal glands and panceas to tuma's.

Im far from calm. Lol.

Thats why i go jogging in the mist and to boxing to keep fit!

I reply to people like this in the manner that i have becuase im an articulate and passionate man.

If he cantt aanswer my questions dont ever talk to me again lol. He says he qoutes facts about our history been destroyed yet when i ask him to clarify he ignores it...

Me and Luton Down spent the whole game arguin with idiots moanin about zola an the team but when we wanted to get serious they didnt wanna know.

I have no problem having a reasoned debate with anyone on here, by email, on the phone or meeting up. But when he psots nonses and claims facts when he hasnt produced any and then puts me down as a carrot claiming i havent qouted fact, i struggle to let it go as i have qouted facts i can back up!

Thank you for your support by the way and may God bless you!

Holly68 wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

D.unstable wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

There was only one Scully wrote:
As an aside from all the unbelievable decisions an inept ref gave today, our legends players led by Neil Price were only given 1 ticket as a complimentary for today's game. Why, you may ask when we have a few attending? It seems our new Chairman does not support our history in fact Mr Duxbury is doing his up most to totally destroy all the history and what went before. Now, before the silly posts on here comment negatively and support what they dont know, just take a look at his egotistical destruction of our club so far. Downgrading of academy, his unapproachable, new over priced catering and.... failure to recognise our history! Now, Bas may have taken us to bankruptcy but it could of happened even before he arrived on the scene, remember!!
The heart and soul of our club is being destroyed by someone who should of never been allowed to be given control.
The future is not bright for WFC with this man at the helm!

All you negative numties are gettin right on my tits and rather boring. Im sure a lot of you clowns only come on here to rile most of us up. You cannot live in the past. No business lives in the past and football is a business otherwise you end up like luton. Yes its sad that some of the older players didnt get in for free, but if they love the club surly they can stretch to £25 to help their beloved club.

Out of interest, which bit of the clubs history is being destoryed???

If over priced food is the biggest drama we have to face under the new owners im opening my arms wider to accept them.

What went before was a lot of dodgy owners who were out for them selves. Players been sold on the cheap. Rubbish football. Mid table if we were lucky but more likely a relegation battle. And all that if we didnt go bust. Now if the new owners and Duxebury wanna get rid of that image, my arms are gettin wider and wider in welcoming them!

The acadamy is the most pointless subject in the world. Murray and Hoban are the only 1st teamers from the acaday with Bond and Smith featuring on the bench.

The acadamy to be a grade 1 status costs £2.3 million. You have to offer a minimum of 20 contracts per year to acadamy graduates. we havent offered that many since its opened! Then you have the weekly cost of those contracts. You have to have coaches for every 8 players not the 12 it is now so again more moeny on wages. You also have to have an indoor all weather pitch which we dont have so would have to build.

Take all that into account and you at 5 or 6 million pound extra a year. Now where do you surpose we get that money from because the acadamy is not producing the players to re coup that...

If you dont like the fact that the club has stable owners who know how to run a club, who have a legend in charge playing a passing attacking game. Giving us the chance to watch some of the best players we will see at the Vic, then there are 91 other clubs for you to go and watch!!!!!!!!!

The new owners and bored have given us 3 matches before christmas where kids get in for the price of a mars bar and an open training session in which kids can take part with the 1st team!! Players are also in the shop and in the town signing autographs! What more can they do to make this club more accessible to the local kids and the local area??

How would you do it differentlly????

A 24 carat plonker! Its fans like you that do not see the mist in the early morning.
I have quoted fact and what have you come up with, blinkered, emotional and nonsensical red top sensationalism.
Your totalitarian outlook is wonderful but reality and what is happening now does not tell the true story of our club so far.
No real direction, no heart, no identity and lets be honest a team of players that did not cut the grade at our feeder club!
You remind me of everything that is wrong with our club and football in general.
Politicians can fool those that do not know politics but football fans are not fools.

If im a 24 carrot plonker then that makes you a 42 carrot plonker! You have not qouted any facts. You have whined on about how we are not stuck in the past.

You have not answered my question in what you would do different.

You have not answered my question in terms of which bits of our history is been destroyed. So answer these with some facts please.

I see the mist in the early morning as i go for a jog at 5 am before boxing traing.

You remind me of what is wrong with our club in the fact you would rather watch crap football, been played by average joes resulting in a struggle for places in the league while we worry about our bank balance and have our best players pinched for peanuts. How can any real fan want this for thier club??!! Answer that one while your at it!

You have qouted no facts as the facts you claim you have qouted, you have not clarifyed or answered my response.

The direction which you claim does not exist, does. It is that we are owned by football people who are intrested in getting us good young players in who help the club be competative and eventually challenge for promotion.

And no heart???? That really does prove that you either do not go or you go with your eyes shut? Did you got to Palace? Did you go to Hudderfield? Did you go to Charlton? I did. And what i saw was a group of players with absolute heart and passion that did not ever give up and challenged for every single thing resulting in great performances and points.

By saying you qoute facts yet you have qouted none and you have not answered my questions and by saying the club has no heart, you have proved you are nothing. Not worth my time or anyone elses.

Your not woth me getting worked up over as i have met your sort before and quite frankly i dont rate it.

Come if you want and moan but you will be drowned out and if you dont come you wont be missed.

Oh and by the way everything in this post and my previous one is fact and i can back up every single point i made and make.

Agree 100% Chris, I admire your calmness in responding to such a yawn post, either get on the bus or jog on sculls. Any so called fan who is referring to us as a feeder club are either on a wind up or just not worth conversing with.

Bud i take steroids and im missing half a lung to pneumonia and adreanal glands and panceas to tuma's.

Im far from calm. Lol.

Thats why i go jogging in the mist and to boxing to keep fit!

I reply to people like this in the manner that i have becuase im an articulate and passionate man.

If he cantt aanswer my questions dont ever talk to me again lol. He says he qoutes facts about our history been destroyed yet when i ask him to clarify he ignores it...

Me and Luton Down spent the whole game arguin with idiots moanin about zola an the team but when we wanted to get serious they didnt wanna know.

I have no problem having a reasoned debate with anyone on here, by email, on the phone or meeting up. But when he psots nonses and claims facts when he hasnt produced any and then puts me down as a carrot claiming i havent qouted fact, i struggle to let it go as i have qouted facts i can back up!

Thank you for your support by the way and may God bless you!

It's amazing that Baz stripped us bare and the team were average, yet some moan more now when we clearly have better players, more points than this time last season. Don't they understand that this is the start of the journey and yes we got alot of new players, but we won't get 16 new ones every year, the sifting process is now well underway ..... Do people want quality and long ball and hope ????? Baffling

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:
The BBC are a disgrace!

DuffmanWFC wrote:
Well said chrisbottom some people are absolutely diluded! Where's my free ticket for 31 years support?
These so called legends lived the life I would love to have: playing football for a living, adored by thousands, paid well, free drinks etc etc!
They have to accept that they were players from a past that will never be anymore! Times have moved on!

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

Hampshire hornet wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
enquiries@football-l


eague.co.uk
There you go...i have sent email to complaints dept and asked for a reply to my complaint......so cmon get emailing

done....


I wish to complain about a referee by the name of Steve Rushton who was in charge of the Watford v Middlesboro game today, his inept laughable decision to send off the Watford player Vydra, not only cost Watford valuable points, but also ruined the game as a spectacle.

I have not seen one referee so far this season in charge of the Watford home games who could bring any confidence to a fan or even encourage anyone to become a qualified referee, these people are ruining the game.

I trust Watford will appeal the decision, however what are the chances of a team having a player sent off at almost identical times in the first half of consecutive matches! Bet there would be great odds of that happening?

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

lutondown wrote:
Just one thing to add, I hope the folk who called in to complain about the Deeney chant do so with and about racist idiocies aimed at our foreign legion. Oh I guess we're witnessing double standards as no one has.

peter10531089 wrote:

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

lutondown and Chris B - love the fact that you support the club with a passion that you do but could you please quit with the lectures to other people who's views may not mirror your own completely and suggestions that people are cowards if they don't want to back up their opinions with their fists. There are many balanced views put on here which balance positive and negative comments and this is the way supporters articulate on the terraces or in the stands.

For my part I love the football that Zola wants to play and the style of football we play when in possession, but yesterday In the first half we failed to press the ball (ie the opposition player with the ball) either individually or collectively well enough and this allowed Boro to come back into the game.

Zola's in game decisions in terms of formation and moving Chalobah into a back 3 against Bristol City were (in my opinion) poor and resulted in a less effective performance.

I have sympathy for Geijo and and the supporter who said he would rather see Iwelumo. When selecting the who sits on the bench a manager typically thinks through each member of the starting eleven, the potential scenarios that might occur and select accordingly to give himself the best options of changing the game in whichever tactical direction that he needs to.

In Geijo's case Zola will have seen what type of player he was on videos of Granada and his (admittedly limited) performances in training. what became quickly apparent was that in his current condition Geijo can not lead the line either physically or tactically (ie with clever movement - his movement was very linear) and he seemed rather one paced. Iwelumo for all his faults holds the ball and allows the midfield to join in the attack, something which we didn't do very well yesterday and were unable to do in the second half because the ball was unable to be retained long enough and the ref had reduced us to the 10 men. Personally I was surprised Iwelumo was not on the bench during the warm up simply because Geijo could not replace Deeney like for like.

In some ways it was a shame that Boro didn't Go ahead earlier and give Zola more time to change the hold and contain mentality of the game in the second half. I felt that we could still pull a result out of the game and it was only Steeles boot that stopped us getting what would have been a fabulous point.

The players that we now have in the squad have both better technique and more importantly better decision making than we have seen previously (Chalobah especially) and it is a joy to watch especially compared to the style of football that Dyche was playing at this stage of last season but I feel the team will (hopefully) improve in terms of when we don't have the ball and that Zola's "in game" decisions improve. when they do we will really have a side on our hands.

Finally the loanees are working for cause as much as any or many of the journeymen English/British players that we have watched in the last two decades and whilst they do that they will have my support and appreciation.

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

buckler wrote:
Sorry but some of the essay's on here just drag on to long! Reading ChrisBottoms rants takes more than the length of a game!

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

buckler wrote:
Sorry but some of the essay's on here just drag on to long! Reading ChrisBottoms rants takes more than the length of a game!

Its my new business! An option to a sleeping tablet! Gonna make me rich!

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

peter10531089 wrote:

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

lutondown and Chris B - love the fact that you support the club with a passion that you do but could you please quit with the lectures to other people who's views may not mirror your own completely and suggestions that people are cowards if they don't want to back up their opinions with their fists. There are many balanced views put on here which balance positive and negative comments and this is the way supporters articulate on the terraces or in the stands.

For my part I love the football that Zola wants to play and the style of football we play when in possession, but yesterday In the first half we failed to press the ball (ie the opposition player with the ball) either individually or collectively well enough and this allowed Boro to come back into the game.

Zola's in game decisions in terms of formation and moving Chalobah into a back 3 against Bristol City were (in my opinion) poor and resulted in a less effective performance.

I have sympathy for Geijo and and the supporter who said he would rather see Iwelumo. When selecting the who sits on the bench a manager typically thinks through each member of the starting eleven, the potential scenarios that might occur and select accordingly to give himself the best options of changing the game in whichever tactical direction that he needs to.

In Geijo's case Zola will have seen what type of player he was on videos of Granada and his (admittedly limited) performances in training. what became quickly apparent was that in his current condition Geijo can not lead the line either physically or tactically (ie with clever movement - his movement was very linear) and he seemed rather one paced. Iwelumo for all his faults holds the ball and allows the midfield to join in the attack, something which we didn't do very well yesterday and were unable to do in the second half because the ball was unable to be retained long enough and the ref had reduced us to the 10 men. Personally I was surprised Iwelumo was not on the bench during the warm up simply because Geijo could not replace Deeney like for like.

In some ways it was a shame that Boro didn't Go ahead earlier and give Zola more time to change the hold and contain mentality of the game in the second half. I felt that we could still pull a result out of the game and it was only Steeles boot that stopped us getting what would have been a fabulous point.

The players that we now have in the squad have both better technique and more importantly better decision making than we have seen previously (Chalobah especially) and it is a joy to watch especially compared to the style of football that Dyche was playing at this stage of last season but I feel the team will (hopefully) improve in terms of when we don't have the ball and that Zola's "in game" decisions improve. when they do we will really have a side on our hands.

Finally the loanees are working for cause as much as any or many of the journeymen English/British players that we have watched in the last two decades and whilst they do that they will have my support and appreciation.

I don't give lectures im not paid enough! On any of my posts i qoute facts that i can back up and and prove!

I am open minded to different peoples opinions as that is what makes our game great!

I think with Geijo he didnt take into account that if someone got sent off it would affect him. I think the plan would of been to take Deeney off after 60 mins and play Geijo and Vydra. Geijo showed some nice touches and had Vydra been there a few more of them could of come off..

I think a better option would of been Beleck rather than Iwelumu. Beleck is off similar build to Deeney but alot more mobile than Big Chris.

My argument with Scully which i presume is the 'lecture' i gave, He claimed he was qoutin facts which he didnt make one and i cannot abide someone making ludicrous claims about the new owners and then insulting me. Like i say i love people having different opinions to me and will debate them peacefully as i have just done regarding Beleck and Big Chris.

However i cannot abide people insulting me from behind a computer. Im easy to find and use my real name on here as i do on Twitter so theres no excuse for it.

Regarding Chalobah i think he is imense! I told LD yesterday at the game that he reminds me of Patrick Viera in his stature and movement! He is light years ahead of anyone else his age in this country and i would rate him better than Lansbury when he was here! As i said in my earlier post i spent a lot of time traveling to and from the game with some Chelsea fans who were excited to hear my opinion of him!

Regarding the Loanees. I agree fully on what you say and i have said it from day dot. They work harder and show more passion than many of the layers i have seen!

buckler wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

buckler wrote:
Sorry but some of the essay's on here just drag on to long! Reading ChrisBottoms rants takes more than the length of a game!

Its my new business! An option to a sleeping tablet! Gonna make me rich!

Must say its good stuff, still in bed now and after a little read fell back asleep again! See you for late night Fix.. Zz

peter10531089 wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

peter10531089 wrote:

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

lutondown and Chris B - love the fact that you support the club with a passion that you do but could you please quit with the lectures to other people who's views may not mirror your own completely and suggestions that people are cowards if they don't want to back up their opinions with their fists. There are many balanced views put on here which balance positive and negative comments and this is the way supporters articulate on the terraces or in the stands.

For my part I love the football that Zola wants to play and the style of football we play when in possession, but yesterday In the first half we failed to press the ball (ie the opposition player with the ball) either individually or collectively well enough and this allowed Boro to come back into the game.

Zola's in game decisions in terms of formation and moving Chalobah into a back 3 against Bristol City were (in my opinion) poor and resulted in a less effective performance.

I have sympathy for Geijo and and the supporter who said he would rather see Iwelumo. When selecting the who sits on the bench a manager typically thinks through each member of the starting eleven, the potential scenarios that might occur and select accordingly to give himself the best options of changing the game in whichever tactical direction that he needs to.

In Geijo's case Zola will have seen what type of player he was on videos of Granada and his (admittedly limited) performances in training. what became quickly apparent was that in his current condition Geijo can not lead the line either physically or tactically (ie with clever movement - his movement was very linear) and he seemed rather one paced. Iwelumo for all his faults holds the ball and allows the midfield to join in the attack, something which we didn't do very well yesterday and were unable to do in the second half because the ball was unable to be retained long enough and the ref had reduced us to the 10 men. Personally I was surprised Iwelumo was not on the bench during the warm up simply because Geijo could not replace Deeney like for like.

In some ways it was a shame that Boro didn't Go ahead earlier and give Zola more time to change the hold and contain mentality of the game in the second half. I felt that we could still pull a result out of the game and it was only Steeles boot that stopped us getting what would have been a fabulous point.

The players that we now have in the squad have both better technique and more importantly better decision making than we have seen previously (Chalobah especially) and it is a joy to watch especially compared to the style of football that Dyche was playing at this stage of last season but I feel the team will (hopefully) improve in terms of when we don't have the ball and that Zola's "in game" decisions improve. when they do we will really have a side on our hands.

Finally the loanees are working for cause as much as any or many of the journeymen English/British players that we have watched in the last two decades and whilst they do that they will have my support and appreciation.

I don't give lectures im not paid enough! On any of my posts i qoute facts that i can back up and and prove!

I am open minded to different peoples opinions as that is what makes our game great!

I think with Geijo he didnt take into account that if someone got sent off it would affect him. I think the plan would of been to take Deeney off after 60 mins and play Geijo and Vydra. Geijo showed some nice touches and had Vydra been there a few more of them could of come off..

I think a better option would of been Beleck rather than Iwelumu. Beleck is off similar build to Deeney but alot more mobile than Big Chris.

My argument with Scully which i presume is the 'lecture' i gave, He claimed he was qoutin facts which he didnt make one and i cannot abide someone making ludicrous claims about the new owners and then insulting me. Like i say i love people having different opinions to me and will debate them peacefully as i have just done regarding Beleck and Big Chris.

However i cannot abide people insulting me from behind a computer. Im easy to find and use my real name on here as i do on Twitter so theres no excuse for it.

Regarding Chalobah i think he is imense! I told LD yesterday at the game that he reminds me of Patrick Viera in his stature and movement! He is light years ahead of anyone else his age in this country and i would rate him better than Lansbury when he was here! As i said in my earlier post i spent a lot of time traveling to and from the game with some Chelsea fans who were excited to hear my opinion of him!

Regarding the Loanees. I agree fully on what you say and i have said it from day dot. They work harder and show more passion than many of the layers i have seen!

What I referred to was your statement that you and LD spent most of the game dishing out b0//0c£1n95 to people who moaned at the players.

Agreed Chalobah is the best all round player to don the yellow shirt since Cleverley - another loan.

Not convinced on Beleck yet personally - was he on the bench? I agree that Zola didn't think about being down to ten men but you have to. I worked at a non league club who won an fa trophy game and afterwards the coach was carpeted by the chairman for failing to include a sub keeper on the bench because he (the manager) was there to cover such possibilities as the keeper being sent off. the keeper was sent off, we won 4-1 but from then on that eventuality was planned for, the same thing should have planned for (in my opinion).

As for Geijo - Spanish strikers, similar to Italian strikers tend to rely on good sharp movement and quick changes of pace so we should hope that Geijo sharpens up and then we can judge him. la liga b tends to be far weaker than the championship but even so his return for granadas season is encouraging.

Finally and tactically I think yesterday after the first 15/20 minutes that Cassetti and Pudil played to deep and we were closer to a 5-3-2 than a 3-5-2 and therefore surrendered the midfield superiority in the first half allowing Boro back into the game. This would have been something that had we had 11 man on the field at half time that Zola would/should have corrected at halftime but with the sending off being so close to half time meant it was very hard to organise for.

COYH

peter10531089 wrote:

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

lutondown and Chris B - love the fact that you support the club with a passion that you do but could you please quit with the lectures to other people who's views may not mirror your own completely and suggestions that people are cowards if they don't want to back up their opinions with their fists. There are many balanced views put on here which balance positive and negative comments and this is the way supporters articulate on the terraces or in the stands.

For my part I love the football that Zola wants to play and the style of football we play when in possession, but yesterday In the first half we failed to press the ball (ie the opposition player with the ball) either individually or collectively well enough and this allowed Boro to come back into the game.

Zola's in game decisions in terms of formation and moving Chalobah into a back 3 against Bristol City were (in my opinion) poor and resulted in a less effective performance.

I have sympathy for Geijo and and the supporter who said he would rather see Iwelumo. When selecting the who sits on the bench a manager typically thinks through each member of the starting eleven, the potential scenarios that might occur and select accordingly to give himself the best options of changing the game in whichever tactical direction that he needs to.

In Geijo's case Zola will have seen what type of player he was on videos of Granada and his (admittedly limited) performances in training. what became quickly apparent was that in his current condition Geijo can not lead the line either physically or tactically (ie with clever movement - his movement was very linear) and he seemed rather one paced. Iwelumo for all his faults holds the ball and allows the midfield to join in the attack, something which we didn't do very well yesterday and were unable to do in the second half because the ball was unable to be retained long enough and the ref had reduced us to the 10 men. Personally I was surprised Iwelumo was not on the bench during the warm up simply because Geijo could not replace Deeney like for like.

In some ways it was a shame that Boro didn't Go ahead earlier and give Zola more time to change the hold and contain mentality of the game in the second half. I felt that we could still pull a result out of the game and it was only Steeles boot that stopped us getting what would have been a fabulous point.

The players that we now have in the squad have both better technique and more importantly better decision making than we have seen previously (Chalobah especially) and it is a joy to watch especially compared to the style of football that Dyche was playing at this stage of last season but I feel the team will (hopefully) improve in terms of when we don't have the ball and that Zola's "in game" decisions improve. when they do we will really have a side on our hands.

Finally the loanees are working for cause as much as any or many of the journeymen English/British players that we have watched in the last two decades and whilst they do that they will have my support and appreciation.

peter10531089 wrote:

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

lutondown and Chris B - love the fact that you support the club with a passion that you do but could you please quit with the lectures to other people who's views may not mirror your own completely and suggestions that people are cowards if they don't want to back up their opinions with their fists. There are many balanced views put on here which balance positive and negative comments and this is the way supporters articulate on the terraces or in the stands.

For my part I love the football that Zola wants to play and the style of football we play when in possession, but yesterday In the first half we failed to press the ball (ie the opposition player with the ball) either individually or collectively well enough and this allowed Boro to come back into the game.

Zola's in game decisions in terms of formation and moving Chalobah into a back 3 against Bristol City were (in my opinion) poor and resulted in a less effective performance.

I have sympathy for Geijo and and the supporter who said he would rather see Iwelumo. When selecting the who sits on the bench a manager typically thinks through each member of the starting eleven, the potential scenarios that might occur and select accordingly to give himself the best options of changing the game in whichever tactical direction that he needs to.

In Geijo's case Zola will have seen what type of player he was on videos of Granada and his (admittedly limited) performances in training. what became quickly apparent was that in his current condition Geijo can not lead the line either physically or tactically (ie with clever movement - his movement was very linear) and he seemed rather one paced. Iwelumo for all his faults holds the ball and allows the midfield to join in the attack, something which we didn't do very well yesterday and were unable to do in the second half because the ball was unable to be retained long enough and the ref had reduced us to the 10 men. Personally I was surprised Iwelumo was not on the bench during the warm up simply because Geijo could not replace Deeney like for like.

In some ways it was a shame that Boro didn't Go ahead earlier and give Zola more time to change the hold and contain mentality of the game in the second half. I felt that we could still pull a result out of the game and it was only Steeles boot that stopped us getting what would have been a fabulous point.

The players that we now have in the squad have both better technique and more importantly better decision making than we have seen previously (Chalobah especially) and it is a joy to watch especially compared to the style of football that Dyche was playing at this stage of last season but I feel the team will (hopefully) improve in terms of when we don't have the ball and that Zola's "in game" decisions improve. when they do we will really have a side on our hands.

Finally the loanees are working for cause as much as any or many of the journeymen English/British players that we have watched in the last two decades and whilst they do that they will have my support and appreciation.

peter10531089 wrote:
Fair play on lecture - post was long but I was trying to offer a balanced perspective and I would rather do that fully than in an incomplete manner. If as you said the person was saying that about zola then fair play to you.

Hampshire hornet wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
enquiries@football-l


eague.co.uk
There you go...i have sent email to complaints dept and asked for a reply to my complaint......so cmon get emailing

done....


I wish to complain about a referee by the name of Steve Rushton who was in charge of the Watford v Middlesboro game today, his inept laughable decision to send off the Watford player Vydra, not only cost Watford valuable points, but also ruined the game as a spectacle.

I have not seen one referee so far this season in charge of the Watford home games who could bring any confidence to a fan or even encourage anyone to become a qualified referee, these people are ruining the game.

I trust Watford will appeal the decision, however what are the chances of a team having a player sent off at almost identical times in the first half of consecutive matches! Bet there would be great odds of that happening?

bushey tales wrote:
To be slightly more serious, after ten games I think it's reasonable to start making a few tentative assessments. Forestieri is clearly very gifted, Vydra seems honest and decent, while Chalobah looks to me like potentially the best player we've had at the club for some years - certainly the most impressive young loanee since Cleverley. The jury's out on most of the others although to me Cassetti both looks and sounds like a pudding past its sell-by date, while Neuton could charitably be described as accident-prone. The quality of the opening 20 minutes yesterday was outstanding but Boro were already right back in the game before the ludicrous red card. Early days but 13 from 10 indicates another mid-table season which, if it continues along these lines, will once again end around the 60-point mark.

bushey tales wrote:
If you're going to complain to the FL about yesterday's referee, could I suggest that you don't mention that you didn't actually attend the game?

jasonwatford wrote:
Just watching goals on sunday and they never showed or discussed the watford gme n championship round up ? just like bbc showed a silly penalty award instead of showing the Vydra sending off.......is the media so against us as well ?? I read all posts on here and for those that know me i have some knowledge of football.....i can't believe i read geijo is useless and neuton is rubbish....i tell you what cassetti gives you he can pass and cross a ball beter than doyley could ever dream of doing. Cassetti is not playing left back just to let you know !!! Zola needs to sit down with head referee and get this sorted now. We will ge better an better and we are only in October......some of th loans i guess will go back or away in January.

jasonwatford wrote:
Just watching goals on sunday and they never showed or discussed the watford gme n championship round up ? just like bbc showed a silly penalty award instead of showing the Vydra sending off.......is the media so against us as well ?? I read all posts on here and for those that know me i have some knowledge of football.....i can't believe i read geijo is useless and neuton is rubbish....i tell you what cassetti gives you he can pass and cross a ball beter than doyley could ever dream of doing. Cassetti is not playing left back just to let you know !!! Zola needs to sit down with head referee and get this sorted now. We will ge better an better and we are only in October......some of th loans i guess will go back or away in January.

Bringe wrote:
How the hell can anyone be knocking Giejo on what he had to come into yesterday? Goalkeepers aside and despite what Chris tells us, Zola cannot fill the bench for every scenario and Zola certainly couldn't forecast the imbecilic decision to send off Vydra and the extra load it would place on Troy causing him to tire. Or rather Zola could envisage that but just as one of many other possibilities - he is not God or at least not yet!
It wasn't an injury where you can simply go like for like with other players rehearsed in the role, Giejo won't have been expected to play in a one man attack and anyway he was very unfortunate not to score as Steele made an impossible save with his legs.

francowatford wrote:
Geijo is quality, he banged 4 goals against Barcelona reserves two years ago and has had problems with enjury. This boy floats around the box with quality movement. He can smash the goals in with both feet, has a strong header and plays players in!! Yesterday was unfortunate that he had to lead the line by himself, with 11 on the pitchwe are going to be awesome. I was sceptical about the foreign players but the way they are adapeting to the spirit of the championship and the dissapointment you can see on their faces when we loose shows we have players that are here to prove a point. I think for once in a very long time watford fans are very very lucy. I have permenant goose bumps with the prospect of what we can acheive. I LOVE YOU WFC!!

jasonwatford wrote:
What did they say on goals on sunday then rousman ?

Chris the Vic wrote:
Marlon got it right. Asley Cole's opinion of the FA should include the majorityof referees...too many of them and their assistants get it wrong, too often and respond with total arrogance

They should be suspended like the players and fined.

As for Zola if Fernando slipped why didn't we appeal and if Vydra did not stamp we must appeal.

lutondown wrote:

Eastsussexhornet wrote:
Agree with most of this. The sending off was one of those bizarre decisions. Changed the game. Ruined the game. But surely we can appeal?

We can on Vydra, and it should get overturned. But you cannot appeal a double yellow like our much loved Argies!
What the appeal can't do is get us points back.
I feel completely cheated

lutondown wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:
Sat watching Prize Fighter is probably not the best way to calm down but seeing the 2 good looking girls kissing in the Chineese has helped some what. Anyway back on track!

The 1st 25 minutes was the best i have seen us play for ages. 2 Men on everyball, always an option, different attacking options etc etc! I thought it was one of the best football matches i have ever seen with both teams getting the ball down and playing!

The ref unfortunatly ruined a very promising game for us and i have no doubt that had he stayed on we would of gone on to win. Too often we seem to get landed with a pillock who is either being payed off or reads the papers and forms an opinion before the match. The Forestieri sending off was to much of a coicidence!

Im not sure how the FA and Football League can expect the Respect campaign to work because you have to earn respect and they are nowhere near achieving that! He is not even good enough to ref sunday league and was inconsistant all over the pitch!

I also noticed the Middlebrough player who took a dive and not even a free kick was awarded so do we assume the refs are racist or is that to taboo...

However credit has to go to Nicky Baily and Tony Mowbuery for comeing out and declaring how shocked they were. This will help with the appeal that has now been launched! Credit also has to go to the middlesbrough player who skinned Cassetti and was then tripped in the box, but who stayed on his feet.

I think there was enough on show for us to see that when we have Vydra, Forestieri, Deeney/Geijo and Battocchio as the forward attacking players we will be capable of scoring 2 or 3 a match! On the subject of Geijo, he has not played since May, he has had no pre season and he was thrust into a situation that was always goin to be difficult!

I think there were lots of posatives and bar for there keeper making a wonder save that i still cant work out how he did it, we would of had a draw with 10 men against one of the better teams in the leagues!

To finish I'd like to bring up a sour point in the fact that myself and LD as well as a few other people we speak to all had to give out bollo***ngs to so called Watford fans for getting on players and Zola's back. Its not called for and not needed and next time it wont be just a bollo**ng you get.

And finally i thought Middlesbrough did well to bring that many with them and to them and all Watford fans i hope everyone got home safe and well.

God Bless.

Chris ask that God pal of yours to sort that useless ref out. Can't remember too much of the bible but I think in the OT he said he was a vengeful God, that's good when it comes to getting revenge on that useless numpty.
LD Chapter 1 verse 1:2 Thy hand will strike down the servant of the the devil and he will come dressed in black, bald as Buck and as pompous as Gary Barlow, as incompetent as Bas and as arrogant as Alan Sugar.
Need a poem from Cornet to lighten the mood!

lutondown wrote:
You know judging by the amount of positive supporters here who post weekly on most events, Chris B. D unstable, Holly 68, Bush, Bringe, Buckler, Cornet ( fruitcake with a flake)
Duffster,Keith Mercer etc etc are mostly in agreement on how we are witnessing fantastic, passing football week in. This has been achieved in what 10 games?
Yesterday was ruined as a spectacle by a poor referee with a poor record, we never got to see Geijo introduced in ideal situation alongside a fellow striker, that I suspect would have been Vydra as poor Deeney was out after his epic reintroduction.
But it's good to see the serial whiners creep out every time we lose, yes you Scotty Dog Scully. You and your ilk are an embarrassment to this club, and are what kills the atmosphere at the Vic.
Yes Geijo is off the boil,4 months off, pretty normal wouldn't you agree, but he can score from anywhere, and he will. Yet some of the comments aimed at him after ten minutes were blood boiling for real fans.
I think Zola would have been better served bringing on Murray rather than Yeates, and maybe leaving Troy on or another ten. But this is all hindsight stuff and for the fans who called him a useless Italian **** are deluded ( and cowards, as not willing to back up there insults) they were not saying this after our last two inspirational wins. Probably not there for two of them eh?
I look forward to the forum and hope that the Club gets to see the majority are supportive of what the new board and management, and some of the best football most of us have had the honour to have witnessed.
You Horns

jasonwatford wrote:
What did they say on goals on sunday then rousman ?

lutondown wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
What did they say on goals on sunday then rousman ?

Yeah rous man speak up

rousman 2 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

jasonwatford wrote:
What did they say on goals on sunday then rousman ?

Yeah rous man speak up

Sorry LD i have been out all afternoon Vinnie & Kamara both agreed joke sending off. By the way some good post's by yourself. 9/10

buckler wrote:
Sshh seems Big Bottom has calmed down and is writing a book rather than clogging this thread up! Oops have I wronged him?

Bush Hornet wrote:
*Zenophobic= xenophobic. My error

lutondown wrote:

buckler wrote:
Sshh seems Big Bottom has calmed down and is writing a book rather than clogging this thread up! Oops have I wronged him?

Yep he's stopped bouncing about!

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

buckler wrote:
Sshh seems Big Bottom has calmed down and is writing a book rather than clogging this thread up! Oops have I wronged him?

Yep he's stopped bouncing about!

Haha been in the boxin gym at my mates all afternoon! Much more fun lol

goldenboy1993 wrote:
Frustrating that the football league show analysed the red card of Zigic (which could have gone either way) but didnt even mention the red card at watford. If this had happened to United could you imagine the fuss there would have been, but it ok because any s**t can happen to watford and nobody does anything

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

buckler wrote:
Sshh seems Big Bottom has calmed down and is writing a book rather than clogging this thread up! Oops have I wronged him?

Yep he's stopped bouncing about!

Haha been in the boxin gym at my mates all afternoon! Much more fun lol

An not wronged me no as its ment in a fun jokey way way but what that ref did deserves all the bad luck i can pray for!

Hampshire hornet wrote:
No response / acknowledgement from the FA ref my email.... Anyone else had any joy?

I guess you can say with confidence that they do sweet FA

lutondown wrote:

Hampshire hornet wrote:
No response / acknowledgement from the FA ref my email.... Anyone else had any joy?

I guess you can say with confidence that they do sweet FA

No, but if none of us do not get one we should start a nationwide campaign, petition to make referees answerable to their mistakes.
Gross incompetence usually means dismissal in the real world why any different in their closed shop?
They really do act above the pale, arrogant ****'s and major egos.
This one is going to get a bit of getting over

lutondown wrote:

goldenboy1993 wrote:
Frustrating that the football league show analysed the red card of Zigic (which could have gone either way) but didnt even mention the red card at watford. If this had happened to United could you imagine the fuss there would have been, but it ok because any s**t can happen to watford and nobody does anything

Well with that tool Claridge on, little surprise eh!

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

peter10531089 wrote:
Fair play on lecture - post was long but I was trying to offer a balanced perspective and I would rather do that fully than in an incomplete manner. If as you said the person was saying that about zola then fair play to you.

Peter i was sat in Row W seat 82 and Luton Down was seat 83 in the Rookery. We heard coment calling Zola a little Italian c*nt. We heard Geijo been told to go back to Spain and Italy. We heard Pudil been baracked for not tracking back after being fouled by their box and having nothing given. We heard idiots sayin Geijo wasnt upto it after 5 minutes. We heard people bemoaning a lack of passion and team play. I even heard one bloke say 'play it long'.

This is why i lost my temper and started to challenge them of which none would back their mouths up!

lutondown wrote:

Hampshire hornet wrote:
No response / acknowledgement from the FA ref my email.... Anyone else had any joy?

I guess you can say with confidence that they do sweet FA

No, but if none of us do not get one we should start a nationwide campaign, petition to make referees answerable to their mistakes.
Gross incompetence usually means dismissal in the real world why any different in their closed shop?
They really do act above the pale, arrogant ****'s and major egos.
This one is going to get a bit of getting over