Zola's 'disbelief and bewilderment' at Vydra's sending off (From Watford Observer)

Considering that we played with 10 men for past 2 games our players must take much credit.We hung on at the Valley and very nearly bagged a point with Borough. It does seem a huge coincidence that sending offs were of identical times. We all understand how difficult it is to officiate any game but with decisions that we have seen it is bound to cause problems to say the least. In the past referees often became "homers" with particular big clubs often getting every pretentious decisions in there favour.
I see penalties given for ball to hand so often now then the next week its ok for ball to hit hand. Lets have one rule for a penalty. Then we have the offside rule what a farce that has become.
Our club is up and running at long last, Gianfranco has put us back on the map.

When Watford appoint new managers do the people from the club never say to the prospective employee that the FA will send the worst possible referee? And if he is not available the one who does arrive will be under instruction to stop Watford winning in the subtlest way possible, unless very obviously Watford are the better of the teams or the opposition make a complete disaster of their game.

It was approaching half time and having not witnessed anything remotely resembling a dive the ref was in a panic over his 1st half red bet.

But seriously I think this was just his 2nd Championship match and hopefully it will be his last because he has a long history of ruining good games with poor decisions.

The ball-to-hand example you cite, holtonian, merely exemplifies the difficulty that referees have. Sometimes it will be accidental. However, if it hits your outstretched arm facing a cross or in the wall, then a penalty is correct, even if there is minimal control.

The referee can only give what he thinks he saw; referees are human; sometimes he will get it wrong.

Mr Rushton, though, is a serial offender. He should be demoted until he has a much better feel for what constitutes a sending off offence.

The sad thing is that, even if we win the appeal, the result will stand.

It looked to me that the speed and ease with which mr Ruston reached a for a red card suggested he was looking for opportunities to be centre of attention and I was surprised that he didn't take the opportunity to level up the game when McEachren went in knee high - but as the guy next to said "should have gone to specsavers!"

That decision is up there with the 'ghost goal'.
Absurd decision and I hope Mr. Rushton gets sacked (I was going to say demoted to non-league matches but then I thought that would be a little harsh on them).

See that according to Sky Sports News that the red card is to be challenged by Watford. We should have been well up before the sending off but that idiot ref changed everything. Still bemsed why Troy was taken off to be replaced by someone who is either not match fit or just a lazy prima donna - that pathetic back heel when we were in a good position!!! Shame about the international break but we do need to do Posh and get wining at home and just not looking good

Casterbridge wrote:
The ball-to-hand example you cite, holtonian, merely exemplifies the difficulty that referees have. Sometimes it will be accidental. However, if it hits your outstretched arm facing a cross or in the wall, then a penalty is correct, even if there is minimal control.

The referee can only give what he thinks he saw; referees are human; sometimes he will get it wrong.

Mr Rushton, though, is a serial offender. He should be demoted until he has a much better feel for what constitutes a sending off offence.

The sad thing is that, even if we win the appeal, the result will stand.

My point is that a rule has to be the same for all and not vary from referee to referee. How can it be deemed unintentional in one game and a penalty given for an identical offence in another game. That is rubbish surely.

have to agree, unless Deeney was injured he showed more energy than his replacement. mind you i would have brought on Murray instead of Yeates - but what do i know. Overall i thought that we looked better, and the back three looked better.

andyhooked - sigh...........

Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

andyhooked wrote:
Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

He's sighing at you due to your comments about a guy who has never played in England before, played half an hour up front by himself oh and he hasn't played football in a few months. So yeah, I'd say he wasn't match fit. Were you one of the morons getting on his back yesterday? Some of our fans are absolutely brainless, its quite unbelievable.

ok this chap seriously needs to be checked out by the ruling bodies, you can look up his past form for the last six seasons if you put steve rushton and soccerbase in the search engine. has booked nine players in one game, and regularly does 5, 6 ,7 8 no problem. He has booked in 6 seasons which span a total to date of 113 games, 344 yellows, and dished out 25 reds. He has sent players off wrongly before for alleged stamping and with this history its no surprise he ruined yesterdays game and will continue to do so , oh by the way, his father was a refferee too.!!

The fans who were knocking Geijo are just short minded idiots! I've seen far worse in a Watford shirt then him!
Personally I don't blame Zola for bringing Geijo on for Deeney... We were looking at changing it and maybe there was going to be a suprise element that may of happened, just sadly it never did!
Geijo needed to get on the pitch and it was tough on him due to the position we were in!
I suppose these moaners were the same ones that said Deeney should be sacked!....Just look at them now cheering him on! Jokers the lot of them

andyhooked wrote:
Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

Because comments about Geijo are beyond belief. This guy is mustard and should of come on when we were cruising for a win as an intro taking into account his first English game after a long lay off through injury.
And I think Jason was sighing at your post rather than ask that you should sigh

Geijo scored 24 goals for Granda last year is not match fit but is no mug either. Agree with all LD says.

lutondown wrote:

andyhooked wrote:
Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

Because comments about Geijo are beyond belief. This guy is mustard and should of come on when we were cruising for a win as an intro taking into account his first English game after a long lay off through injury.
And I think Jason was sighing at your post rather than ask that you should sigh

Believe me, those that think Vydra is good will be kissing the ground that Geijo walks by the end of this season. Very difficult circumstances for the lad yesterday to come on and make an impact, however quote me on this that he is where most of our goals will come from this season.

Sorry those that would rather be back in the dark days of watching Nathan Ellington imitate a professional footballer.

D.unstable wrote:

lutondown wrote:

andyhooked wrote:
Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

Because comments about Geijo are beyond belief. This guy is mustard and should of come on when we were cruising for a win as an intro taking into account his first English game after a long lay off through injury.
And I think Jason was sighing at your post rather than ask that you should sigh

Believe me, those that think Vydra is good will be kissing the ground that Geijo walks by the end of this season. Very difficult circumstances for the lad yesterday to come on and make an impact, however quote me on this that he is where most of our goals will come from this season.

Sorry those that would rather be back in the dark days of watching Nathan Ellington imitate a professional footballer.

Your so right me Old Dusty!
But wasn't that first twenty five minutes something else? It gets better... Vydra, Forestteri, Deeney, Geijo, Murray up front, goals everywhere
I look forward to the gloat when we start smashing teams

Ruston has now issued 8 Red cards this season alone.

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lutondown wrote:

D.unstable wrote:

lutondown wrote:

andyhooked wrote:
Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

Because comments about Geijo are beyond belief. This guy is mustard and should of come on when we were cruising for a win as an intro taking into account his first English game after a long lay off through injury.
And I think Jason was sighing at your post rather than ask that you should sigh

Believe me, those that think Vydra is good will be kissing the ground that Geijo walks by the end of this season. Very difficult circumstances for the lad yesterday to come on and make an impact, however quote me on this that he is where most of our goals will come from this season.

Sorry those that would rather be back in the dark days of watching Nathan Ellington imitate a professional footballer.

Your so right me Old Dusty!
But wasn't that first twenty five minutes something else? It gets better... Vydra, Forestteri, Deeney, Geijo, Murray up front, goals everywhere
I look forward to the gloat when we start smashing teams

Funny me old scummer down, that's the first time I have been called that for years.

Indeed we were something else that first 20, but Middlesbrough are no mugs in this division and were always going to have a bit of a go as they did up until a decision that has totally changed the outcome of the game. I have no doubt that we would have gone on and scored 1, 2, or even 3 more second half.

Don't forget we are still only 10 games in to a totally new way of playing and despite a few of the results I am lovin it.

We will continue to get stronger and it won't be long before we are tanking teams week in week out. These refs can only hold us back for so long.

I am as bemused as I was at yesterday's referee decision at the doughnuts who come on here still questioning if we are in a better position now than under Bankrupt Baz, I really don't know what to say anymore other than they must be on a total wind up.

D.unstable wrote:

lutondown wrote:

andyhooked wrote:
Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

Because comments about Geijo are beyond belief. This guy is mustard and should of come on when we were cruising for a win as an intro taking into account his first English game after a long lay off through injury.
And I think Jason was sighing at your post rather than ask that you should sigh

Believe me, those that think Vydra is good will be kissing the ground that Geijo walks by the end of this season. Very difficult circumstances for the lad yesterday to come on and make an impact, however quote me on this that he is where most of our goals will come from this season.

Sorry those that would rather be back in the dark days of watching Nathan Ellington imitate a professional footballer.

Geijo got mullered by a foul that was borderline Red, no wonder after 4 months put he didn't fancy a 50/50

The referee and his team are idiots.I have nothing more to say.

HC

peter10531089 wrote:
It looked to me that the speed and ease with which mr Ruston reached a for a red card suggested he was looking for opportunities to be centre of attention and I was surprised that he didn't take the opportunity to level up the game when McEachren went in knee high - but as the guy next to said "should have gone to specsavers!"

i hear the referee is after the spotlight and in next Pizza Hut advert on TV (no that's not a joke)

When we win the Play Off Final in May at Wembley we can look back at Rushton and LAUGH OUR F HEADS OFF

andyhooked wrote:
See that according to Sky Sports News that the red card is to be challenged by Watford. We should have been well up before the sending off but that idiot ref changed everything. Still bemsed why Troy was taken off to be replaced by someone who is either not match fit or just a lazy prima donna - that pathetic back heel when we were in a good position!!! Shame about the international break but we do need to do Posh and get wining at home and just not looking good

give the guy a chance, yes he was off the pace ,first game in five months etc,what we needed and still need is a poacher someone to put away those self same chances you said we should be "well up" before the sending off!
he is that poacher,keeping my fingers crossed he stays injury free,he will make the difference.
sounds like you are about twelve years old with no knowledge of football!!!!

Sorry D.Unstable, can't agree with you.

Vydra is a completely different player to Geijo based on yesterday's performance. I know his fitness is still well off it, but i can't see him doing the leg work or showing half as much passion as Matej which is the real differentiation.

As you've so keenly pointed out, no real opinion of Geijo can be formed until he's fully fit - so how can you say he'll do this or that when you don't even know how he'll take to Championship football ... Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Players who come to Watford with a reputation never do well, and the expectation you are placing on his shoulders when he still isn't match fit and most likely isn't in touch with Zola's style is in my opinion, overwhelming. I personally think Vydra will be our stand out player this season, not to say Geijo won't have an impact but simply put - It's all come too late for him this year.

As for Boro, thought they played the ball well in the final third and the move before their goal was where the game span. Chalobah was terrific but wasn't convinced with Pudil (jury's still out on him for me, think the French LB deserves his chance so long he isn't carrying an injury) even though he occupied the midfield he seemed to ignore any defensive responsibility which was disappointing. First time i've seen us with 3 at the back and we looked solid, would preferred to have kept 11 on the field and seen how we fared over the 90 minutes but what you gonna do.

Don't know what made him show that red but that's all heresay, the FA need to sort it out if they are to retain any sort of respect. Completely ruined the game - you could tell it lingered about the place right up to the final whistle and ultimately cost us an easy 3 points and all the grief of appealing to the people who won't even do anything to punish Mr. Rushden! The whole system is flawed, and will one day be it's own undoing.

"You don't know what your doing" put it far too nicely ...

jbWatford wrote:
Sorry D.Unstable, can't agree with you.

Vydra is a completely different player to Geijo based on yesterday's performance. I know his fitness is still well off it, but i can't see him doing the leg work or showing half as much passion as Matej which is the real differentiation.

As you've so keenly pointed out, no real opinion of Geijo can be formed until he's fully fit - so how can you say he'll do this or that when you don't even know how he'll take to Championship football ... Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Players who come to Watford with a reputation never do well, and the expectation you are placing on his shoulders when he still isn't match fit and most likely isn't in touch with Zola's style is in my opinion, overwhelming. I personally think Vydra will be our stand out player this season, not to say Geijo won't have an impact but simply put - It's all come too late for him this year.

As for Boro, thought they played the ball well in the final third and the move before their goal was where the game span. Chalobah was terrific but wasn't convinced with Pudil (jury's still out on him for me, think the French LB deserves his chance so long he isn't carrying an injury) even though he occupied the midfield he seemed to ignore any defensive responsibility which was disappointing. First time i've seen us with 3 at the back and we looked solid, would preferred to have kept 11 on the field and seen how we fared over the 90 minutes but what you gonna do.

Don't know what made him show that red but that's all heresay, the FA need to sort it out if they are to retain any sort of respect. Completely ruined the game - you could tell it lingered about the place right up to the final whistle and ultimately cost us an easy 3 points and all the grief of appealing to the people who won't even do anything to punish Mr. Rushden! The whole system is flawed, and will one day be it's own undoing.

"You don't know what your doing" put it far too nicely ...

Jesus never known a player to be damned so quickly. Not in touch with Zolas style? Watch Grenada and Udi.myes he will be. Not in time for this season? 30 plus games left? He will be.
What a strange post, get some sleep sonny.

jbWatford wrote:
Sorry D.Unstable, can't agree with you.

Vydra is a completely different player to Geijo based on yesterday's performance. I know his fitness is still well off it, but i can't see him doing the leg work or showing half as much passion as Matej which is the real differentiation.

As you've so keenly pointed out, no real opinion of Geijo can be formed until he's fully fit - so how can you say he'll do this or that when you don't even know how he'll take to Championship football ... Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Players who come to Watford with a reputation never do well, and the expectation you are placing on his shoulders when he still isn't match fit and most likely isn't in touch with Zola's style is in my opinion, overwhelming. I personally think Vydra will be our stand out player this season, not to say Geijo won't have an impact but simply put - It's all come too late for him this year.

As for Boro, thought they played the ball well in the final third and the move before their goal was where the game span. Chalobah was terrific but wasn't convinced with Pudil (jury's still out on him for me, think the French LB deserves his chance so long he isn't carrying an injury) even though he occupied the midfield he seemed to ignore any defensive responsibility which was disappointing. First time i've seen us with 3 at the back and we looked solid, would preferred to have kept 11 on the field and seen how we fared over the 90 minutes but what you gonna do.

Don't know what made him show that red but that's all heresay, the FA need to sort it out if they are to retain any sort of respect. Completely ruined the game - you could tell it lingered about the place right up to the final whistle and ultimately cost us an easy 3 points and all the grief of appealing to the people who won't even do anything to punish Mr. Rushden! The whole system is flawed, and will one day be it's own undoing.

"You don't know what your doing" put it far too nicely ...

Pleased you have a differing opinion to me or else wouldn't this be a boring forum. However not sure I have indicated that they are similar players and not sure where the hypocritical bit has come from.

Haven't got time to reply in greater detail but I am right so please remember your post and come back on once you realise to apologise.

Thank you

Bringe you have a sense of humour.

I am sure your comments were made based on fact. BUT

we are talking of an organisation that put Rob Styles at the top of the pile and when he refd he was star of the show and particularly useless.

Then their was Kevin Friend who ruined our play off chances and was rewarded by a Premiership ranking.

The same organisation a few years ago that appointed a ref from West Yorkshire to look after our game against Leeds at Elland Road. He finished sending off two of our players. Ashley and Ben, how Marlon survived we will never know.

And the organisation that appointed Attwell as a league ref and kept fast tracking him to the top until Fergie and Co went ballistic.

When it comes to refs expect nothing but idiocy and occasionally you may be pleasantly surprised (not too often!!).

They will more often than not receive 100% backing and all clubs, not just WFC will suffer

The red card was a joke. I must have watched it about 15-20 times to see what was wrong. Whilst there is contact, it is minimal and unavoidable. Vydra was jumping out of the way of Bailey's tackle and whilst jumping over him came down on him whilst in his stride. Nothing malicious. I thought Bailey was going to be going off as it looked like he had already started to walk. Was a joke.

As for Geijo, good to see him get game time, wrong game to get it in. Against Charlton we stuck with what we had and it worked well and was working against Boro, right down to the Abdi freekick in a similar position. Deeney should have stayed on slightly longer, unless he felt a tweak but coming off he didn't look best pleased. If he felt fine but was tiring i'd have risked him playing on further as he has a full 2 weeks to recover with the international break.

I have been a regular at the Vic since 1949 and said to Mrs Les as we walked away from the ground on Saturday "If anything will drive me away from football it wont be people like Bas and Ashton but the standard of refereeing we now get".

You would think with all the talk about match fixing in the past they would have a very close look at Rushton and any betting on first half red cards. I wonder what the odds were on a second red in back to back games within a minute or two of each other.

If they want to fast track new referee's why not use ex-player's who at least know the game I mean player's from league 2 etc who would have never been high earners. Referee's like Rushton & Atwell have never played the game at any level & always seem to see things at the Vic that nobody else in the ground does.

As the great GT used to say Referee's know the rules, but they don't know the game! Surely the lack of reaction from any of the players should have told Rushton to stop and think before he reached for his pocket.

My father was an ex=player and referree and taught me the laws of the game. In my view, and I had a good one, the player supposedly trodden on, got up, did not go screaming to the ref the Boro players did not make a great fuss. All that should have said something to the ref. He had however wrongly made a snap decision. Form my position I thought it should have been a free kick to WFC. On Geijo he came on with great expectations from some supporters but there is not much he could do alone. Maybe Deeney would have given more chase but that is the managers decision and I will live with it. So far I cannot criticize him too much.

When are the FA going to arrive in the 21 century? Technology must take over and numb sculls like Rushton and his mates will not make obvious mistakes that always seem to cost watford crucial points.
Despite the setback it appears from DU that we now have a good squad of class players that will challenge for the title in the latter part of the season.
Cannot wait to give a Ferguson a good spanking next week!!
I noticed that Mr Loach threw a couple to Mallky at Portman Rd, somethings never change!
COYHS

The red card was probably the single worst decision I have seen for that colour card ever - and I've seen a few over the years. I also didn't like the the fact that he tried to laugh his way through the game, trying to be all matey with the players and also having a good chuckle when the crowd were incensed at his decisions. I'm all for respecting the officials but not for someone like that. As for Geijo, 30 minutes up front on his own with little or no support (after an injury lay off) is no time to be making any assessment of his worth. Based on the last 3 games, I'd say this team (and the manager) is just starting to get it together now....let's have another look in a few weeks time. U ORNS!

on a different subject, I see that Tiny is now relegated to the bench at Sheff wed !!

D.unstable wrote:

lutondown wrote:

D.unstable wrote:

lutondown wrote:

andyhooked wrote:
Jason why should I sigh? A reasonable comment by me I thought but perhaps you have greater insight than I have.

Because comments about Geijo are beyond belief. This guy is mustard and should of come on when we were cruising for a win as an intro taking into account his first English game after a long lay off through injury.
And I think Jason was sighing at your post rather than ask that you should sigh

Believe me, those that think Vydra is good will be kissing the ground that Geijo walks by the end of this season. Very difficult circumstances for the lad yesterday to come on and make an impact, however quote me on this that he is where most of our goals will come from this season.

Sorry those that would rather be back in the dark days of watching Nathan Ellington imitate a professional footballer.

Your so right me Old Dusty!
But wasn't that first twenty five minutes something else? It gets better... Vydra, Forestteri, Deeney, Geijo, Murray up front, goals everywhere
I look forward to the gloat when we start smashing teams

Funny me old scummer down, that's the first time I have been called that for years.

Indeed we were something else that first 20, but Middlesbrough are no mugs in this division and were always going to have a bit of a go as they did up until a decision that has totally changed the outcome of the game. I have no doubt that we would have gone on and scored 1, 2, or even 3 more second half.

Don't forget we are still only 10 games in to a totally new way of playing and despite a few of the results I am lovin it.

We will continue to get stronger and it won't be long before we are tanking teams week in week out. These refs can only hold us back for so long.

I am as bemused as I was at yesterday's referee decision at the doughnuts who come on here still questioning if we are in a better position now than under Bankrupt Baz, I really don't know what to say anymore other than they must be on a total wind up.

Ah the sensible corner! Can i join please!

The respect campaign was floored from day dot! I like many of you will have beeen brought up learning that you have to earn respect!!! Respect CANNOT just be given. The refs should be earnin the respect as they work their way up the leagues and by getting the experience that comes with it!

If you give a ref respect from the day he starts then you are saying to him, its ok to make f**k ups as if anyone moans you have the power to get rid of them!

The respect campaign is in tatters and needs to be got rid of! Refs need a good hard lookin at!

They also need to come out straight after every match and explain them selves as any of us would if we made a massie mistake in our jobs!

We shoulld also be allowed to know what exit they are leavin the ground from and at what time...

....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

I'd also like to know why after 3 days Steve Rushton has not come out and appologised!! Sureley the bloke has some bottle left and feels it right to come out and say sorry??

Its an idea that will never ever work but if a ref makes a howler like we had saturday or with the ghost goal, they should have to refund every ticket that was sold! I garantee it would only ever happen once and it would cure the rash, hasty cards!

Like i say it will never hapen but there needs to be apunishment that would make them all take their time and think a bit more!

A Referee apologising whatever next. I don't think Mr Attwell actually ever apologised.

I cannot recall a foul or even a clumsy tackle before the sending off it just ruined an entertaining game.

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

LesCSP wrote:
A Referee apologising whatever next. I don't think Mr Attwell actually ever apologised.

I cannot recall a foul or even a clumsy tackle before the sending off it just ruined an entertaining game.

You're right two good teams, it would have been a very good contest.
That Ref......grrrrr

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

Then mate you posted it on the wrong thread! Emotions are f'ing raw. We beg to differ on Forresteri, but a player and fans cheated on the scale we were does not compare. There is no ambiguity over the scale of this refs error, he was 110% wrong.
Referees are paid to officiate what's in front of them, not what might have happened last week. If, they start acting in the insidious way that you suggest, we may as well give up.

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

Then mate you posted it on the wrong thread! Emotions are f'ing raw. We beg to differ on Forresteri, but a player and fans cheated on the scale we were does not compare. There is no ambiguity over the scale of this refs error, he was 110% wrong.
Referees are paid to officiate what's in front of them, not what might have happened last week. If, they start acting in the insidious way that you suggest, we may as well give up.

The thing with Forstieri is he is 5ft6 and the fastest most skillfull player i have ever seen live. At Huddersfield which me and LD went, to he caused the defenders and midfielders so many problems with impossible turns that they resorted to kicking lumps out of him.

When someone goes down that often people assume he goes down easily. Truth was though that a 5ft6 8 stone kid been kicked by a 6ft1 13 stone northner is always gonna be put on the floor!

The penalty was a stone wall penalty and if Fitz Hall made that challenge on one of their players in the box they would of said it wasnt a dive!

I wasnt at Charlton but i spoke to LD who told me they had a lot of rain and then watered the pitch on top so its not imposible that he slipped.

And its very peculiar that a ref read in the paper 2 days before the game that he waas a diver and then sent him off for it.

Lutondown you have your first friend after all those years of trying.....well done !!!!!

jasonwatford wrote:
Lutondown you have your first friend after all those years of trying.....well done !!!!!

Lol! You saying we're not mates boo hoo!
Anyway Dan H is my mate since he ditched you after realising your knowledge of football is very poor.

that old saying....you can choose your friends not your family !!!!

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

Then mate you posted it on the wrong thread! Emotions are f'ing raw. We beg to differ on Forresteri, but a player and fans cheated on the scale we were does not compare. There is no ambiguity over the scale of this refs error, he was 110% wrong.
Referees are paid to officiate what's in front of them, not what might have happened last week. If, they start acting in the insidious way that you suggest, we may as well give up.

Agree with all you say, including the bit about the dead fred. Wadja reckon about P'bro. They're on a bit of a roll right now but I reckon it's 3-0 GB's

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

Then mate you posted it on the wrong thread! Emotions are f'ing raw. We beg to differ on Forresteri, but a player and fans cheated on the scale we were does not compare. There is no ambiguity over the scale of this refs error, he was 110% wrong.
Referees are paid to officiate what's in front of them, not what might have happened last week. If, they start acting in the insidious way that you suggest, we may as well give up.

The thing with Forstieri is he is 5ft6 and the fastest most skillfull player i have ever seen live. At Huddersfield which me and LD went, to he caused the defenders and midfielders so many problems with impossible turns that they resorted to kicking lumps out of him.

When someone goes down that often people assume he goes down easily. Truth was though that a 5ft6 8 stone kid been kicked by a 6ft1 13 stone northner is always gonna be put on the floor!

The penalty was a stone wall penalty and if Fitz Hall made that challenge on one of their players in the box they would of said it wasnt a dive!

I wasnt at Charlton but i spoke to LD who told me they had a lot of rain and then watered the pitch on top so its not imposible that he slipped.

And its very peculiar that a ref read in the paper 2 days before the game that he waas a diver and then sent him off for it.

Take on board all you say, Chris. Respect your views mate.

jasonwatford wrote:
that old saying....you can choose your friends not your family !!!!

That's so true, that's why you've been expelled by the elder (that's me)!
So it's now Nobby no mates and no Family (that's you!)
Now get back round to Goodwood park for any other damned good spanking!
Lol
BTW you got Blackers sorted yet?

SAHornet wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

Then mate you posted it on the wrong thread! Emotions are f'ing raw. We beg to differ on Forresteri, but a player and fans cheated on the scale we were does not compare. There is no ambiguity over the scale of this refs error, he was 110% wrong.
Referees are paid to officiate what's in front of them, not what might have happened last week. If, they start acting in the insidious way that you suggest, we may as well give up.

Agree with all you say, including the bit about the dead fred. Wadja reckon about P'bro. They're on a bit of a roll right now but I reckon it's 3-0 GB's

Well agree some more on Tweeter! Your seat has been kept warm buddy

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

Then mate you posted it on the wrong thread! Emotions are f'ing raw. We beg to differ on Forresteri, but a player and fans cheated on the scale we were does not compare. There is no ambiguity over the scale of this refs error, he was 110% wrong.
Referees are paid to officiate what's in front of them, not what might have happened last week. If, they start acting in the insidious way that you suggest, we may as well give up.

The thing with Forstieri is he is 5ft6 and the fastest most skillfull player i have ever seen live. At Huddersfield which me and LD went, to he caused the defenders and midfielders so many problems with impossible turns that they resorted to kicking lumps out of him.

When someone goes down that often people assume he goes down easily. Truth was though that a 5ft6 8 stone kid been kicked by a 6ft1 13 stone northner is always gonna be put on the floor!

The penalty was a stone wall penalty and if Fitz Hall made that challenge on one of their players in the box they would of said it wasnt a dive!

I wasnt at Charlton but i spoke to LD who told me they had a lot of rain and then watered the pitch on top so its not imposible that he slipped.

And its very peculiar that a ref read in the paper 2 days before the game that he waas a diver and then sent him off for it.

Take on board all you say, Chris. Respect your views mate.

Cheer's Buddy!

jbWatford wrote:
Sorry D.Unstable, can't agree with you.

Vydra is a completely different player to Geijo based on yesterday's performance. I know his fitness is still well off it, but i can't see him doing the leg work or showing half as much passion as Matej which is the real differentiation.

As you've so keenly pointed out, no real opinion of Geijo can be formed until he's fully fit - so how can you say he'll do this or that when you don't even know how he'll take to Championship football ... Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Players who come to Watford with a reputation never do well, and the expectation you are placing on his shoulders when he still isn't match fit and most likely isn't in touch with Zola's style is in my opinion, overwhelming. I personally think Vydra will be our stand out player this season, not to say Geijo won't have an impact but simply put - It's all come too late for him this year.

As for Boro, thought they played the ball well in the final third and the move before their goal was where the game span. Chalobah was terrific but wasn't convinced with Pudil (jury's still out on him for me, think the French LB deserves his chance so long he isn't carrying an injury) even though he occupied the midfield he seemed to ignore any defensive responsibility which was disappointing. First time i've seen us with 3 at the back and we looked solid, would preferred to have kept 11 on the field and seen how we fared over the 90 minutes but what you gonna do.

Don't know what made him show that red but that's all heresay, the FA need to sort it out if they are to retain any sort of respect. Completely ruined the game - you could tell it lingered about the place right up to the final whistle and ultimately cost us an easy 3 points and all the grief of appealing to the people who won't even do anything to punish Mr. Rushden! The whole system is flawed, and will one day be it's own undoing.

"You don't know what your doing" put it far too nicely ...

The jury's out on Pudil???? This must be a one man jury because he is a great player who's work rate and distribution are first class. I won't get involved in the other comments you have made as others have covered it!

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:

@ChrisBottom16 wrote:

lutondown wrote:

SAHornet wrote:
....and on yet another fred, I see that Mr. Suarez has been taking lessons from Sr, Foresteiri

SAH normally agree with you buddy. But 12000 of us feel completely robbed, not of only our money but our time and faith in the system. I've never felt so deflated over a game that we started in a way I cannot remember emulating.
You cannot compare Foressteri with Suarez, to do so you would need to watch our man for ninety minutes. He is too fast for most defenders and rides more tackles than he goes over on, and believe you me, there are lots of slow legs wrapping them selves around our elusive Argie.
We get a possibly brilliant player and we the fans are looking high and low for negatives.
Sorry for the somber tone, but buddy we just been royally cheated far worse than offence we've ever committed.

I must say i have only know LD for 3 months and only had the pleasure of watching 4 games with him but i have never seen him so low either watchin or talking about a agme!

And he is right to! We spend £50 odd quid a game to be cheated and we get no appology and no explination!

Saturdays match was played by 2 good passing teams looking to play a proper football match in the spirit it should be played!

Middlesbrough's man was a credit as he was landed on, got up and made no fuss, he also protested the sending off on Matej's behalf as did Mowbury!

We were thoroughly let down twice in 4 days by 2 refs. Suarez dived yesterday blatenttly and was stamped on blatently in the same match and no bookings were given yet our players were booked and sent off respectivly!

Talk about double standards!

Chris & LD, I don't want you to confuse my comment with what happened on Saturday - two completely different situations. I have watched FF replay & MV replay over and over and over again. One was a cheat (possibly and hopefully a one-off cheat) and the other was a total travesty which all WFC fans have a right to be despondent over. I don't want refs to feel cheated enough to be looking for pay-back. You guys pay your money on a grand scale week in and week out and ultimately, it's you that gets cheated when a player dives.

Then mate you posted it on the wrong thread! Emotions are f'ing raw. We beg to differ on Forresteri, but a player and fans cheated on the scale we were does not compare. There is no ambiguity over the scale of this refs error, he was 110% wrong.
Referees are paid to officiate what's in front of them, not what might have happened last week. If, they start acting in the insidious way that you suggest, we may as well give up.

Agree with all you say, including the bit about the dead fred. Wadja reckon about P'bro. They're on a bit of a roll right now but I reckon it's 3-0 GB's

Well agree some more on Tweeter! Your seat has been kept warm buddy

Twatter is the devil's koran. Even Eamonn Holmes doesn't like it and that's good enough for me, at all, at all, at all.

Response from the FL
Thank you for your email, your comments have been noted and forwarded through to the referees department. We often receive numerous queries and complaints regarding individual referee's decisions and their overall performances. Although we are usually unable to respond on each individual incident, we can advise that the performances of all officials are constantly monitored by way of club and assessor reports, the match video or DVD and, at some grounds, the Prozone statistics. The match is also analysed by the Referees' Manager, a referees' coach and the referee and, despite the perception of some, match officials are most accountable for their performance. Referees will review match decisions with the support of their coaches. It is worth stating that referees will make errors of judgement in a match in the same way that players do. They make their decision based on years of training and experience and what they see at that moment in time, from a position different from anyone else in the ground - he can only act on what he sees, assisted by the other match officials and not everyone will agree with the decisions he takes. Contrary to expectations, the Referees' Manager will not attempt to support a referee out of sheer loyalty. It is his responsibility through Professional Game Match Officials to identify training needs of not only individual referees but also of all National Group officials. The Manager also works with his group in a bid to constantly improve standards in a game which has become faster and more frenetic over recent years. Every match is recorded and referees are under closer scrutiny than ever before. Should any club wish to appeal a decision made to send a player from the field of play they can do so and it would be at The FA's discretion whether to uphold a decision or overturn it. We trust that some of this reply at least highlights to you the procedures in place designed to improve performances and we thank you for contacting us with your comments. Regards, Andrew PomfretCustomer Services OfficerThe Football League LimitedEmail - enquiries@football-l
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News on twitter that watford a appeal over red card to Vydra upheld!!!

Travelling Hornet wrote:
News on twitter that watford a appeal over red card to Vydra upheld!!!

Good news but....we still lose the points and that jerk will still go on to ruin other games. Gross incompetence coupled with extreme vanity and not understanding the game is about the football not his overstated self worth.
Twot

My reply too
Jason,



Thank you for your email, your comments have been noted and forwarded through to the referees department.



We often receive numerous queries and complaints regarding individual referee's decisions and their overall performances. Although we are usually unable to respond on each individual incident, we can advise that the performances of all officials are constantly monitored by way of club and assessor reports, the match video or DVD and, at some grounds, the Prozone statistics. The match is also analysed by the Referees' Manager, a referees’ coach and the referee and, despite the perception of some, match officials are most accountable for their performance. Referees will review match decisions with the support of their coaches.



It is worth stating that referees will make errors of judgement in a match in the same way that players do. They make their decision based on years of training and experience and what they see at that moment in time, from a position different from anyone else in the ground - he can only act on what he sees, assisted by the other match officials and not everyone will agree with the decisions he takes.



Contrary to expectations, the Referees' Manager will not attempt to support a referee out of sheer loyalty. It is his responsibility through Professional Game Match Officials to identify training needs of not only individual referees but also of all National Group officials. The Manager also works with his group in a bid to constantly improve standards in a game which has become faster and more frenetic over recent years. Every match is recorded and referees are under closer scrutiny than ever before.



Should any club wish to appeal a decision made to send a player from the field of play they can do so and it would be at The FA’s discretion whether to uphold a decision or overturn it.



We trust that some of this reply at least highlights to you the procedures in place designed to improve performances and we thank you for contacting us with your comments.



Regards,



Andrew Pomfret

He steamed in there to issue that red card. It wasnt a malacious game up to that point, where was his attempt to liase with the linesman, who had a perfectly clear view of the incident. It changed the game, 11 men going into the 2nd half...I dont feel we would of ended up losing the game. He's back for Peterborough, aswell as Forrestieri! I've got a real good feeling about Battocchio & Bia, lets hope there fit after the international break! #foreverkeepingthefa
ith

Good news indeed, with appeals you never know what will happen, could end up with a longer ban.

Glad the panel made an honest decision.

In these blatant cases the 'ref' should get some sort of punishment , but I suppose it will be an arm around the shoulder with the words " never mind old boy you can get all decision right"

Anyway, all guns blazing. All hands to deck lets smash Posh and lesser Fergie

Suarez didn't dive there was genuine contact that sent him off balance and put him out of stride. However the theatrical embellishment is well worth a yellow IMO and I'd have liked to have seen it punished alongside a Liverpool penalty. Similar to Forestieri's slip last week, if he wants the sympathy of the fans and officials he should've made an effort to recover his stride or at least gone down naturally without fuss.

On the other note, well done the FA for seeing sense ... now send that clown Rushton back to the BSP where his mistakes won't matter so much..

Glad to see there is an "independant" voice on the panel. Like most enquiries it is people of the same ilk passing judgement on their fellow members.
Fair asessment? I don't think so!