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FA rescind Vydra's red card (From Watford Observer)
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FA rescind red card Matej Vydra received during Watford's defeat to Middlesbrough
4:22pm Tuesday 9th October 2012 in Watford FC News
Referee Steve Rushton believed Matej Vydra stamped on Nicky Bailey. Picture: Holly Cant
The FA has decided to rescind the red card Watford striker Matej Vydra received against Middlesbrough on Saturday.
Vydra was sent off shortly before half-time for what referee Steve Rushton considered to be a stamp on Nicky Bailey.
But the FA have subsequently decided to uphold the Hornets' appeal and rescind the Czech Republic international's three-game ban.
Comments(56)
thomas.howard
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4:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12
matthewp
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5:19pm Tue 9 Oct 12
SMP wrote:100% agree with this. The referee cost us 3 points and there are too many decisions like this that surely the arguement for video replays has to come into play. My wife is a Boro fan and she was in the away end at the time - it has not been an easy few days thanks to Mr Rushton!
Nice to see that sense has prevailed .. although too late to affect the result of Saturday's fixture unfortunately!! Sending off completely changed the game.
DuffmanWFC
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5:28pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Only plus point is that Vydra is free to play the next few games!
Lloydinio
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5:33pm Tue 9 Oct 12
thomas.howard wrote:You've got a point their, if the ref gets a big obvious decision wrong, shouldn't he be punished
WIll they rescind Steve Rushtons refereeing license now too??
Dunderdale Pinner
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5:39pm Tue 9 Oct 12
The BestTrip2011
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5:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12
holtonian
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5:56pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Everything that has occured since the Pozzo regime commenced has been brilliant.We are on the map thanks to them. The only thing i believe we lack is general to pull the strings on the park.Maybe that could be John Eustace but we will be far better the sooner we get leader, one thing for certain is the players do play with pride when they put our shirt on.
mattymashup
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6:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12
@ChrisBottom16
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6:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12
You only erradicate errors by taking a step back and taking your time. Anyone can make an errorr but if i do it in my job then i have to suffer the punishment.
If a red card is overturned and you have lost the match in which it was shown you should be awarded a 'compensation' point. You cannot award 2 or 3 points and granted 1 point is not a bonus but at least it is a gesture.
The referee should be fined his matchday fee andd that should be donated to a charity of the clubs choice.
I also think there should be a written apology from the referee in the next home games programe.
Some of you will say that these are not fair but you have to take drastic steps an make someone think so hard about what they are doing that errorrs are reduced in matches.
having attended most our of matches this season and seen some of the refs we have had, i honestly do not think it will be long before a ref is attaked by a fan.
Hornet1970
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6:30pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Atleast vydra is now available
kingofpop
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6:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Bringe
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6:57pm Tue 9 Oct 12
The BestTrip2011 wrote:I also don't like to slate referees, they do a difficult job often under spiteful conditions. However I despise those that 'lean' for whatever reason and I have no doubt Rushton entered the game with preconceptions possibly arrived at from some very slanted media reports.
I don't normally jump on the bandwagon of slating referees as they have a difficult enough job and, like all of us, are capable of making mistakes. Also, by the end of the season, good and poor decisions tend to even themselves out. However, it is very hard to see how on earth Mr Rushden saw this particular incident as a red card offence or indeed any offence at all.
Also whatever happened to the good old talking to afforded to players for initial minor incidents, nowadays refs whip out cards without warning for the smallest of reasons (e.g.FF's first), are they on some kind of card bonus or do they really think they are the star of the show?
JohnnyHornet
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6:58pm Tue 9 Oct 12
matthewp wrote:Should have left her there.
SMP wrote:100% agree with this. The referee cost us 3 points and there are too many decisions like this that surely the arguement for video replays has to come into play. My wife is a Boro fan and she was in the away end at the time - it has not been an easy few days thanks to Mr Rushton!
Nice to see that sense has prevailed .. although too late to affect the result of Saturday's fixture unfortunately!! Sending off completely changed the game.
In GT We Trust
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7:00pm Tue 9 Oct 12
lutondown
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7:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Bringe wrote:Easy Brian, they are tools, who are accountable to bigger tools and yes they think 12000 people turned up to see the biggest tool of all, mess up their afternoon.
The BestTrip2011 wrote:I also don't like to slate referees, they do a difficult job often under spiteful conditions. However I despise those that 'lean' for whatever reason and I have no doubt Rushton entered the game with preconceptions possibly arrived at from some very slanted media reports.
I don't normally jump on the bandwagon of slating referees as they have a difficult enough job and, like all of us, are capable of making mistakes. Also, by the end of the season, good and poor decisions tend to even themselves out. However, it is very hard to see how on earth Mr Rushden saw this particular incident as a red card offence or indeed any offence at all.
Also whatever happened to the good old talking to afforded to players for initial minor incidents, nowadays refs whip out cards without warning for the smallest of reasons (e.g.FF's first), are they on some kind of card bonus or do they really think they are the star of the show?
Paul Gadd
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7:30pm Tue 9 Oct 12
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
D.unstable
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7:54pm Tue 9 Oct 12
holtonian wrote:I lIke this post.
Some how we as a club have to try forget errors made and get on with the Watford FC rebuild. The thought of the players we have is very exciting, our frontline permutations will prove a nightmare for opposition defences.
Everything that has occured since the Pozzo regime commenced has been brilliant.We are on the map thanks to them. The only thing i believe we lack is general to pull the strings on the park.Maybe that could be John Eustace but we will be far better the sooner we get leader, one thing for certain is the players do play with pride when they put our shirt on.
# You'll go far Cliff, if you haven't already, great positive mental attitude.
Hold on I can hear the wingers already circling, feeder club, crocked foreign players, no pride, price hike, clubs lost its soul, bla bla bla.
You are spot on fella, Watford are firmly back on the map thanks to the Pozzo takeover, for which I truly thank them.
Travelling Hornet
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8:07pm Tue 9 Oct 12
How would we feel if he refereed one of our games again?
Would he be more lenient to us because 'he owed us one'
Or would he be more vindictive because we have shown him to be incompetent?
I personally never want to see the little git ever again!!!
AngelHornet
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8:09pm Tue 9 Oct 12
holtonian wrote:Not forgetting a settled defence as well
Some how we as a club have to try forget errors made and get on with the Watford FC rebuild. The thought of the players we have is very exciting, our frontline permutations will prove a nightmare for opposition defences.
Everything that has occured since the Pozzo regime commenced has been brilliant.We are on the map thanks to them. The only thing i believe we lack is general to pull the strings on the park.Maybe that could be John Eustace but we will be far better the sooner we get leader, one thing for certain is the players do play with pride when they put our shirt on.
jasonwatford
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8:59pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Dunderdale Pinner
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9:06pm Tue 9 Oct 12
lutondown
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9:15pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Dunderdale Pinner wrote:I think he should ref every Luton game. Scum ref meets scum town. A match made in heaven, could also buy a house in Bury Park, or any of the 70000 caravans on sale in **** Town
Further to my earlier post I think the FA should take a hard look at Mr. Rushton. 8 red cards in 11 games shows he is ill equipped to take charge of a championship match.. A good ref may probably go through a whole season with a lot less. I think a good schooling in lower level leagues,, Blue Square/Ryman, may do the trick, but on the other hand you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
a1derek
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9:43pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Bringe
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9:57pm Tue 9 Oct 12
Paul Gadd wrote:"Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final"
Lets all slow clap the FA....
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
Whoopsadaisy, where were you watching it from? Gray's head Sherwood's arm is what I saw from all of ten yards away.
But I get your drift and can think of many more such incidents.
cliff46
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10:44pm Tue 9 Oct 12
It takes very little time in other sports and generally works pretty well.
I can't understand why the richest sport is so backward.
If they wanted to keep it simple as simple as possible then the cricket idea of the captain having the ability to appeal against two or three major
decisions would suffice.
D.unstable
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11:25pm Tue 9 Oct 12
jasonwatford wrote:Indeed, received my standard response today too.
it was my email that won this case so well done to all other bloggers that followed my lead in email deluge to the football league...i thank you !!!
mattymashup
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7:38am Wed 10 Oct 12
hornets09
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7:46am Wed 10 Oct 12
e.com/referees/refer
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if you get the chance, have a look at Mr Rushton previous seasons, he has been allowed to wreak havoc for a long time.!!
and will continue to do so.
hornets09
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7:59am Wed 10 Oct 12
However if you think it was down to one of many emails fair enough and thats up to you
gloryhornet4
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8:37am Wed 10 Oct 12
Paul Gadd wrote:Paul, well said. The sending off on Sat was similar to the "ghost goal" - if the opposition do not appeal and look bemused - ask the lino for the former and the latter - Mr Attwell have the balls to say I was 12 yards away from the goal and you are the only one in the ground that saw a goal Nigel (Bannister).
Lets all slow clap the FA....
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
Chris the Vic
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9:15am Wed 10 Oct 12
As Sky pointed out, Mr Rushton's statistics are 8 red cards in 11 games.
He is a paid professional as is Cole, terry etc and he will not be charged publicly, asked to apologise over Vydra, fined or censored.
Yes it is one law for the clubs and another for the officials. the FA spending £100m on a state of art HQ is great but when they neglect their duties to act in a fair and reasonable manner they are totally out of order
Bush Hornet
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9:46am Wed 10 Oct 12
holtonian
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10:53am Wed 10 Oct 12
AngelHornet wrote:I agree Angel, but often or more often games are defended and won in the midfield taking the pressure from our back three.
holtonian wrote:Not forgetting a settled defence as well
Some how we as a club have to try forget errors made and get on with the Watford FC rebuild. The thought of the players we have is very exciting, our frontline permutations will prove a nightmare for opposition defences.
Everything that has occured since the Pozzo regime commenced has been brilliant.We are on the map thanks to them. The only thing i believe we lack is general to pull the strings on the park.Maybe that could be John Eustace but we will be far better the sooner we get leader, one thing for certain is the players do play with pride when they put our shirt on.
Casterbridge
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12:10pm Wed 10 Oct 12
cliff46 wrote:Hear, hear! Unlike cricket or tennis, there is a possible drawback when play carries on, but the appeal could be made at the next natural stoppage.
At the weekend I wrote that play back of penalties, straight red cards and goal lines should be available to match officials.
It takes very little time in other sports and generally works pretty well.
I can't understand why the richest sport is so backward.
If they wanted to keep it simple as simple as possible then the cricket idea of the captain having the ability to appeal against two or three major
decisions would suffice.
I can't understand why FIFA is going down the road of high tech to decide goal-line issues. If a camera at either end of each goal line doesn't show the ball clearly over the line, it ain't a goal. Simple.
Harrydownunder
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12:16pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Paul Gadd wrote:Some memories there alrite. I still remember the headline in the SUN the day after we were knocked out of the FA cup by Ian Rush's dive. Quite simply it said "ROBBED".
Lets all slow clap the FA....
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
I am still bitter about that and Andy Cheating ****** Gray's foul on Sherwood in '84.
jasonwatford
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12:51pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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1:08pm Wed 10 Oct 12
That coupled with better training for refs may make the game a little fairer.
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I'd hate to be a ref (and indeed I hate most refs), but they clearly need as much help as possible - it is ridiculous that with all the technology available it is not used.
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Whether or not it would have helped on saturday we will never know - let's just hope and prey it does even itself out over a season - there's an interesting research project for someone who has enough spare tme on their hands.
Only 2 Ross Jenkins
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1:19pm Wed 10 Oct 12
cliff46 wrote:Wouldn't this approach undermine the ref's authority if indeed it is shown that his initial decision was wrong? I bet we'd still be singing "You don't know what you're doing!" Anything is better than nothing though, I agree!
At the weekend I wrote that play back of penalties, straight red cards and goal lines should be available to match officials. It takes very little time in other sports and generally works pretty well. I can't understand why the richest sport is so backward. If they wanted to keep it simple as simple as possible then the cricket idea of the captain having the ability to appeal against two or three major decisions would suffice.
laddie hornets
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1:22pm Wed 10 Oct 12
The real issue is the defence and the goals we are leaking - the two goals we let in on Saturday were nothing to do with how many players we had on the field.
Tighten up the defence, and the scoring potential at the other end will get us the points we're looking for.
laddie hornets
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1:23pm Wed 10 Oct 12
The real issue is the defence and the goals we are leaking - the two goals we let in on Saturday were nothing to do with how many players we had on the field.
Tighten up the defence, and the scoring potential at the other end will get us the points we're looking for.
the sniper
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1:54pm Wed 10 Oct 12
lutondown
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2:31pm Wed 10 Oct 12
the sniper wrote:No one other than Howard twelfth man Webb is allowed to officiate Utd games. If they do, Utd tend to slip up!
Mr Rushton should be promoted to the Premierships referees list,that's the only way to get shot of him,imagine the publicity he would have got if he'd made that decision at Sir Alex's Old Trafford....sir Alex would make sure he'd never ref again at United!!!!!
lutondown
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2:33pm Wed 10 Oct 12
jasonwatford wrote:You mean that wasn't a standard letter?!I do note from my reply from FA it was a woman and the letter was exactly the same signature apart.
Hornets09....was a tongue in cheek comment my friend.
It's good to know the FL are really taking this seriously!!!! I hate Blazers with a passion.
Beds Hornet
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3:22pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Paul Gadd wrote:Paul, don't forget "The Clattenburg Clanger" versus Reading... awarding a goal against for nothing! That muppet is now reffing The Prem week in week out!!
Lets all slow clap the FA....
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
lutondown
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3:32pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Beds Hornet wrote:Don't you mean Atwell? The goal tht never was?
Paul Gadd wrote:Paul, don't forget "The Clattenburg Clanger" versus Reading... awarding a goal against for nothing! That muppet is now reffing The Prem week in week out!!
Lets all slow clap the FA....
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
TilliDie
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4:42pm Wed 10 Oct 12
ralear49
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4:58pm Wed 10 Oct 12
matthewp wrote:The problem with video replays is the inequality across the levels of the game. How many cameras are at a Premiership game versus the lower divisions? Who is going to review the "tape" in real time at a lower division game and render a quick decision? I live in the US and the reviews in the NFL create constant interruption and lengthy, boring stoppages. I think the best outcome is real disciplinary action on the regular offenders among the referees, but it doesn't do anything for the points lost or the ruination of what sounded like a good game for you spectators.
SMP wrote: Nice to see that sense has prevailed .. although too late to affect the result of Saturday's fixture unfortunately!! Sending off completely changed the game.100% agree with this. The referee cost us 3 points and there are too many decisions like this that surely the arguement for video replays has to come into play. My wife is a Boro fan and she was in the away end at the time - it has not been an easy few days thanks to Mr Rushton!
Beds Hornet
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5:06pm Wed 10 Oct 12
lutondown wrote:You're right, Bud, it was Atwell... merchant banker!
Beds Hornet wrote:Don't you mean Atwell? The goal tht never was?
Paul Gadd wrote:Paul, don't forget "The Clattenburg Clanger" versus Reading... awarding a goal against for nothing! That muppet is now reffing The Prem week in week out!!
Lets all slow clap the FA....
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
hornets09
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5:38pm Wed 10 Oct 12
lutondown
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5:51pm Wed 10 Oct 12
TilliDie wrote:I agree with you there. We need to be noisy over this just in case as Bringe suggested there is a whispering campaign against us.
I was really enjoying the game and thought my money was truly well spent, until mr rushton decided to make a wreckless decision that turned a good game of football into a mockery. Watford fc should look at making a formal complaint to the fa to raise awareness that such decisions not only cost us points but ruined a day of football for paying customers. On the up its a pleasure to see periods of attractive footie from the new horns, gutted we were denied a shot at getting a third successive win but I'm sure we will bounce back with force and I admire the dignity and professionalism shown by Vydra walking off the pitch.
And Vydra is an all round star. The forward line up is pretty mouthwatering.
Vydra, Forresteri, Geijo, That boy Troy, Goals everywhere!
overthemooney
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7:51pm Wed 10 Oct 12
overthemooney
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8:03pm Wed 10 Oct 12
overthemooney
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8:03pm Wed 10 Oct 12
JonBoy
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8:43pm Wed 10 Oct 12
Goldenboy1960
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4:43pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Paul Gadd wrote:You forgot Mr Atwell's contibution to getting Reading a point which was a goal that was really a corner. The thing that got me was that the FA awarded an own goal to Eustace when in fact the referee in effect scored the goal!!
Lets all slow clap the FA....
I remember David Moyes moaning about how he could make a DVD about the wrong decisions Everton get over a season.
Well Dave, we at WFC could open a special Blockbuster on the subject, including Andy '***' Gray's handball goal in the '84 final, the Ian Rush dive of '86 in the semis, Shittu's perfectly good goal (said Alan Brazil) in playoffs v Hull and best of all - Chris Powell's face becoming his hand, and a penalty awarded against us for handball in our 1st Prem game under Aidy!!...off for a lie down now....
SMP says...
4:42pm Tue 9 Oct 12